Chris Paul Is In The NBA Finals (& Injuries) - Barbershop talk (Episode 105)

[@Dom2K]

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[@Slensei]

Discord Link is expired my guy 😔

[@ampr6164]

Dom u can’t say no one expected the Suns to make the finals, people thought the most they could do is 2nd round no bc everyone was injured they weren’t healthy. I’m not hating u can’t say that narrative anymore. Also, every title has an asterisk but every series that just different.

[@Dom2K]

@@ampr6164 this is exactly what I said in the video did you watch it

[@ampr6164]

@@Dom2K when the trade happened for CP3 to go to the Suns I and everybody else didn’t think they were gonna get past the second round but they did and It’s lookin like they are gonna win it all. But don’t be like “no one thought they were gonna do it”, “they did the impossible” like the Suns beat fully healthy Lakers, Nuggets and Clippers. I didn’t think they were gonna do anything special if everyone was healthy but they did it bc everyone was injured. I’m just saying don’t praise CP3 too much but he did earn the ring bc u need some luck to win a championship.

[@PopMercii]

i think the 2016 heat raptors series needs a second look

[@anf9311]

As a Heat fan, happy to see Jae Crowder in back to back Finals and James Jones putting together a finals roster as GM 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@KOCChristian]

Same here Jae Crowder such perfect modern forward

[@EdSmith313]

"Well, shit, James Jones' been to 6 straight finals, too!"

[@Roman.Will.]

James Jones might be goated

[@YodaSmokes]

This suns trip is almost identical to the first time the warriors went to the finals in terms of injury luck. Not a knock, its gonna happen. Just interesting.

[@lilgucci6847]

Wasn't the only team the warriors faced that was injured the cavs?

[@YodaSmokes]

@@lilgucci6847 naw, they never faced a single starting point guard. Jrue was out for the pelicans, Conley was out for the grizz, pretty sure pat bev missed for the rockets-all he does is try to hurt people, but he could’ve hurt Steph 🤷🏻‍♂️, and then Kyrie was out along with love.

[@lilgucci6847]

@@YodaSmokes oh okay thanks for reminding me i couldn't remeber

[@lilgucci6847]

@@YodaSmokes also getting shoved is not gonna hurt u man up my guy 🤣 cp3 about injured himself the other night on that 3 point play when he flopped in mid air and if he didn't bounce of bev shoe he would've smacked the floor hard

[@srinjongupta3173]

@@lilgucci6847 that’s the thing. No ones gonna remember the injuries 5 years from now. Hell people forget the fact that the Lakers championship run had injuries in the second round, and finals (and I forget if Portland was injured or not). People knocking this run on injuries are actually casuals.

[@tuesday65971]

"Just know that the Lord doesn't give up on His people baby, He takes you all the way!" -David Robinson, June 25, 1999.

[@Bolt1105]

Was he referring to Duncan orJesus…. Because historically I think Duncan makes more sense

[@andreingramakadjscrewrip7372]

@@Bolt1105 Probably Jesus. He was a very religious man, from what I've heard

[@big_lolo_01]

@@Bolt1105 God, because Robinson was a big believer.

[@grewdordon]

Charles Barkley would like to have a word with the lord then

[@yomammasboo713]

Chris Paul is a Luciferian tho so this doesn't apply. "Gaining the world, but losing his soul" is more in line with CP.

[@kendrezflournoy2429]

This might be the first time in our lives that we'll see a small market vs. small market teams going against each other in the finals. Btw, Congrats to CP3.

[@jrdb04]

I think clevalnd and the spurs was small market still it is great

[@yonder8287]

I wouldn't say the spurs were a small market team since they proved themselves as a dynasty.

[@hydrophilichunk1346]

Atl and Phx small markets????

[@LeeBoros]

Atlanta making it, and they are not a small market team

[@lik7953]

I’m not sure that Phoenix is a “small market” give it being the 5Th largest city in the country. Milwaukee is a small market. Atlanta isn’t really a small market either, it’s a huge media center (CNN, TNT all are based there)

[@Mamba88888]

So proud of my man Chris Paul. It's about damn time

[@inuenndo_]

Championship or not i’m so happy for CP3, Devin Booker is still only 24, Ayton showed great promise these playoffs. We might have a lil run here

[@lilgucci6847]

Booker should be entering his prime soon since he's been in the league like 6 years now. ayton bridges johnson should all improve yall should be contendors for the rest of the decade

[@legoman2313]

Oh no I want him to win the chip so bad

[@NeverwascooL]

This was the first time in my life I'm happy with any of those 4 squad winning the title

[@ryanreyes2129]

Cap next year the suns won’t make it past 1st round and will be just like the Bubble fruads MIAMI heat 😂

[@mikebotchway2207]

@@ryanreyes2129 want fries with that salt?

[@traywaters1575]

CP3 will go down in the top 5 point guards of all time even if he didn’t win a ring. This definitely is amazing for his overall legacy🙌🏾

[@pranith850]

Fax

[@sunsunavery4237]

he hasnt won yet bud

[@traywaters1575]

@@sunsunavery4237 I literally said even if he doesn’t win a ring 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@mattcortez1694]

@@sunsunavery4237 check yoh eyes bru

[@lilgucci6847]

Cp3 might not even be top 5 even if he gets a ring if he dosnt he for sure isnt top 5

[@markisded6494]

I’m so happy for CP3, but I feel so bad for the clippers just losing without Kawhi

[@lilgucci6847]

They also havnt had ibaka this whole playoffa

[@ryanm4074]

i love the clippers but they had their chances without kawhi to be up 3-1, just couldn’t capitalize in clutch moments

[@Amour742]

Mickey Mouse playoff run every team they played had atleast one injured player 🤡

[@ironsimp]

That’s what makes winning a championship hard can’t control everything

[@RealCGH]

@@Amour742 even the Suns had injuries and illnesses bro cp3 missed half the wcf and got a shoulder injury game 1 of the first round that messed his game up

[@supremegoesviral9922]

I remember not to long ago, people had been saying “Chris Paul had never been outta the second round “ and now here we are, Chris Paul is in the finals, and in my opinion they will win it.

[@humblesir5880]

I used to say that, congrats to CP

[@NotAstroRat]

Congrats man 🤣

[@cameronpearson3650]

Trae Young denying CP his ring is gonna be like when Shawn Michaels beat Ric Flair at Wrestlemania 😂

[@ChefCJ]

😂

[@yonder8287]

I feel like Atlanta winning the chip this year would be bigger than the raptors winning their first chip since they've been a team since 1947. And I seriously think the city would go on lockdown.

[@dusk6159]

With Undertaker and all in crutches though lol

[@dusk6159]

@@yonder8287 I don't know, the Raptors were great and had that tough path. And the Finals were huge save for the Warriors getting mauled by injuries. Save already having to face the Suns who drifted through the hospitalized Lakers-Nuggets-Clippers, imagine being mauled by the Bucks but suddenly having won the series because you see Giannis going down? This ring changing owner night in night out because of injuries? Wouldn't feel that much better than an NCAA tournament.

[@lilgucci6847]

@@yonder8287 bigger? All of Canada celebrated the raptors not just a city 😂 it made kawhi show emotion... nothing can beat kawhi showing emotion

[@tsunamipapi1343]

BRO I ACTUALLY CAN’T BELIEVE WE’RE IN THE FINALS 😭

[@greatestever4824]

doms gotta be the most unbiased nba fan i've ever seen, i live in phoenix and have been annoyed by how many people act like half the champions of the last decade haven't benefited from injured teams, all of a sudden since its phoenix people think its any different smh

[@somregularguy]

And this is where all NBA fans unite and cheer for Chris Paul… Unless you’re a Bucks/Hawks fans

[@theinternet4849]

Nah. Raps fan who cheered for giannis and mil 💪

[@camiloignaciosotosoto8265]

It would be kinda poethic if Chris Paul, after all those infortunate injuries that didnt let him win a ring, win a ring in this year full of infortunate injuries

[@RealCGH]

Daily reminder that literally every playoffs injury played a factor but people tend to forget as time goes on

[@MrGNugget]

The funny thing is CP3 or important teammates got hurt every year he had a real shot. Yet he’s clowned for not having a ring. Nobody said “that doesn’t count” or “CP3 was hurt though”. Now, they want to discredit him making the finals when the shoe is on the other foot….interesting

[@manijones4997]

Sad to say but that’s just how this world is...cruel and unfair

[@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24]

The things about injuries is that basketball players fall get hit all the time. But when they don’t get rest their bodies get fatigue thus making the fall and hit more severe resulting in injuries

[@blitzandgoo]

A lot of those freak accidents you can say happened because of a super condensed season too. When u got some teams playing 10 times in 15 days the chances of something like that happening skyrockets. Murrays was one of the more just straight up unfortunate ones, but who’s to say with the way the body works his knee didnt give out right there due to fatigue on his body. Having the shortest turn around ever and then condensing the season, even more condensed for teams that had to miss games due to COVID, resulting in more injuries isn’t a coincidence.

[@SpeedHomeAttack]

Who would've ever thought CP3 would been in the NBA Finals!? After the Houston run with Harden, I thought his title window was over.

[@zanderpierce8886]

Dom, I know you won’t see this but thank you for making great videos and being you. I’ve KD an absolutely terrible night and you’ve made me feel better. Thank you

[@omitn2011]

The Murray & Harden injuries are very much soft tissue injuries that were affected by the multitude of games. However, you are absolutely right with all the other injuries to big players. So many freak accidents

[@3513SDC]

I'm kind of sad that I didn't watch basketball until 2010. Then I stopped watching in 2015 to 2016 and then stopped watching this and last season until the playoffs. But, I always like watching Paul, and the game he had last night was legendary. I remember watching your video way back about how Paul wasn't to blame for the clippers failures(well at least most of them) and it struck me because I agreed with your take cause you were right.

[@nickmoscoso5816]

Part of the playoff and part of the game. Injures suck but it is what it is

[@EJH1]

I totally feel you on how a lot of these injuries are freak accidents and I could be completely wrong, but could there be a correlation between having less rest/recovery and being more prone to injury from freak accidents ?

[@AKWuzHere]

2k8 was one my fav games on ps2

[@FinalQueue007]

The thing is that 30 years from now when you have new people under 30 looking back on these titles. If the Suns win it this year people are going to point out that "Well there were a lot of injuries that year and they played injured teams who were missing key players for multiple games".

[@22s22a]

History remembers the Victor

[@Maine03]

we’ll there not lying

[@Rievax17]

On your Hawks point, the Hawks also went on that crazy run post hiring Nate McMillan as their coach. So if you look at that record, they're a lot better of a team than their entire regular season record would indicate. So they're definitely a good team that no one paid attention to and just assumed they were bad

[@TheGaymos]

So glad to see my favorite franchise lead by one of my favorite players in the Finals

[@Jeff_2x]

Pat Bev the type of person to trash talk someone then once someone trash talks him back gets in his feelings 😂😂

[@HiDiegoGabriel]

Im just really happy to see cp3 in the finals it feels so weird but its great

[@sunsunavery4237]

Dom with the clutch barbershop talk

[@RedThunder]

CP3 deserves this ring

[@herfiderfer2442]

“I dont know who the fuck we is” -dom

[@zack3031]

Injuries stopped Chris Paul from making the finals and they brought him to the Finals

[@RichardSlapz]

This the chip CP3 should’ve won with Kobe

[@JesusFlores-rw8ry]

exactly

[@IAMvonte-2518]

Wasn’t winning in 2011

[@RichardSlapz]

@@IAMvonte-2518 it’s wishful thinking bc the Mavs would’ve had a harder time getting the sweep with CP3 on the floor for the Lakers

[@IAMvonte-2518]

@@RichardSlapz that may be true but that was a tough Mavs team. There’s a reason it was a sweep. Cp3 is good so it mightve been 6 games but I think Mavs still take it. Or Heat in finals

[@RichardSlapz]

@@IAMvonte-2518 we can do this all day about most chips all I know is that they were hating on the Lakers with blocking that trade

[@Daniel-qd3yi]

Paul George tried to give everything he could and people still gon slander him

[@NeverwascooL]

As Lou Holtz said "I'd rather be lucky than good"

[@multimus133]

Imo freak accident injuries are in part caused by player fatigue, or are at least made more severe due to fatigue.

[@SaintFrenchy]

I remember 2012, people were talking a lot smack those day man and this way before media was at its peak like today

[@hunterhidalgo9917]

i understand the freak accident argument but yall keep missing the point... the lack of rest, familiarity with the team and heightened schedule CAUSES more freak accidents. Stuff that would maybe have been a sprain, a pull, etc. now resulted in immediate tear, that happens when the body is tired and at its limit. The players are gassed and not every team has great medical staff (Victor Oladipo got to Miami and found out his quad was still torn even tho he was looked at by both Indiana AND Houston medical staffs) therefore, the schedule being the way it was is most likely the culprit for these "freak accidents'

[@rionizeman]

The hawks were up by 10 when Giannis got injured

[@enthusiastofcute]

What about the time CP3 blew a 3-1 lead to Houston in 2015, I dont think anyone on the clippers was injured

[@younggggggg]

Chris Paul was injured.. he missed the first 2 games

[@enthusiastofcute]

@@younggggggg Clippers won both of those games he was injured

[@mattwayne3597]

Being from Louisiana and watching CP3 come this far. I’m happy as hell, I hope he get the ring. But I’m a Lebron fan 🤷🏾‍♂️🐐👑

[@franksters08]

Let’s be honest, the suns got very lucky to face teams who’s either their 1st or 2nd best player was out due to injuries. They’re either facing the bucks or hawks and they both have their best player out from injuries. But they did what any team would have done, take advantage of the situation. I always liked CP3’s playing style so I’m happy for him. Let’s see how the suns can keep up next year once a lot of the injured star players are healthy

[@marcthehatguy]

Cp3 fans we need to lend cp3 energy to win this ring

[@gamma-ray9996]

Rest of the teams in the playoffs: We keep getting injuries on our important players! CP3: First time?

[@edwardcui7535]

about the injuries, I think part of the reason why so many stars are injured is simply because the league is the most talented it's ever been. One of the worst teams talent wise this year were the Knicks, but I would still take them over the 2015 hawks. then the rest of the teams all had at least a superstar level guy

[@cameronthibodo1350]

It’s crazy cause the hawks got injury’s too

[@Hamzz25]

Every team Phoenix played had injury 😬

[@cooliehimarley7]

Right cause the suns have no injuries

[@dariuslynard158]

The 2012 Heat were favored to win that year. I watched the Celtics-Heat Conference Finals back then, they were the only team that challenged Miami and lost in 7. But yeah I'm in agreement that Chris Paul has suffered from bad luck in his postseason career. If he wins it there's no asterisk on anything to me. I'd feel that way if any team won it, every fanbase watching would gladly take a ring over more dust in the trophy case.

[@kajockkijekmplei1555]

Every NBA player gotta do the KOT guy routine every day

[@slapsmans6900]

Who got the fungus ad? So clutch!!

[@williamdancer5649]

Freak accident injuries would theoretically happen less if the season were shorter. I definitely think the fatigue factor also plays a part, but statistically, less games = less chance for guys to get hurt. It’s very irresponsible that the league is considering full 82 game seasons + the play-in tournament + the playoffs going forward.

[@SlimeLeek]

Injuries only happen during fatigue, the schedule definitely played a role

[@conradodeleon1354]

13:25 you are wrong about that, because is not the same to your body making that fast brake 3 or 4 time per game, 3 games a week, than 5 games a week like the denver was playing, your body needs rest and reparation, also, the off-season was not long enough so players could come back 100%. Saying "that is just an accident, he always do that" is ignoring the problem

[@kidflashiv]

Injuries happen every playoffs. Ppl just pick and choose when they matter or not, depending on the player.

[@jaredboushee5764]

2k16 awesome

[@picassojulien899]

It’s crazy that u made a contenders video and what it would do for each team. And said the suns would have a miracle winning but they did it. Injury or not

[@samnotloading6101]

Yo, what happened to the domcast?

[@fonsoooooooooo]

5:08 ayooo what was that lmaoooo

[@roundzero98]

Whoever wins this chip will be a champion no question, but it will probably be one oft the least valued chips of all time

[@Abbad1579]

Exactly this

[@lik7953]

But in the end, they are champions. We don’t discredit Tim Duncan’s 1999 ring because of the lockout season and a lot of injuries. People did at the time. But 20 years later, we just say he’s a champ. Same goes for all championships

[@rajmandalam6506]

75% of the people who have tried to belittle this championship run are psychotic bronsexuals, KD, Kyrie, & Harden stans who have no life because they waste their time sucking off these players and taking their legacies so seriously.

[@lilgucci6847]

Very true this was the most injuries in a post season ever also the 2nd weirdest season outside of last year in which some teams couldnt even play at home for any of the season

[@lilgucci6847]

But i would say curry 3 are the least valuable along with last year's bubble rinh

[@handbanana5555]

cp3 getting a ring is the only happy ending with no asterisks. everybody else on the sun's their rings dont matter. also i want to add: the suns were not the favorites to win this year bar no injuries. the heat were the favorites so the way i see it in 2012 is what shouldve happened happened. dont at me salty boston fans

[@MrJreed1000]

Booker better win this year .. cause this gonna be the 1st and last time he'll get here..but congrats ...nobody saw this one coming

[@Teezythegoat]

So the Warriors get trashed for winning in 2015 but the Suns get all the credit in 2021🤔interesting

[@sirm.a.r.s4640]

I split this in two ways. 1. If we are not considering the Suns as title contenders for years to come, then we should be happy for this title for this year for a small market. 2. If we are considering the Suns as finals contenders for years to come, this is a big asterisk season. Sorry it may be hard to think but we need to see what this team looks like against full healthy teams.

[@Juan_rivera]

Is like his injury karma caught up and was used this year

[@pp3917]

Chris Paul was injured as well so it doesn’t make sense to say his winning was due to other injuries

[@Christian-ui2vb]

The hawks had faced injuries before this Giannis one, Embiid missed game 1 and Danny green was out, I know it’s not much but it still could’ve changed the impact of the series.

[@dobj_ericb]

“I DONT CARE” perfectly said Dom 😂😂💯 dudes need to get off of CP3’s back and actually give him credit for once

[@steffencapowski4483]

I still don’t count those finals and it’s funny looking back on it. Being that it was lebrons first championship I’m sure he wasn’t complaining about how short the season was (it was like 10 games shorter than this season btw). But now fast forward to this year and lebron is crying that the season was short and caused a lot of players to get hurt even though that’s how he won his first finals.

[@jamiesmith4757]

Causal

[@user-lh8zz6st5r]

The games were more spaced out

[@Amour742]

Mickey Mouse playoff run

[@bluecheckmiya]

U can’t say the Hawks made it cuz of injuries when their best defender in Hunter is gone, Bogey was off for a few games cuz of his injury, and Cam Reddish JUST got back

[@ojutay8375]

I'm a Hawks but I'm so conflicted. If the Hawks beat the Bucks I can't say who I want to win. CP3 who may not get another chance or my favorite team. Agh

[@lilgucci6847]

Cp3 and bron close friends and cp3 can decline and become a free agent. Schroder declined his option that wouldve played him 80+ so cp3 might make a run with bron and ad next year

[@yonder8287]

If the Lakers ring has an asterisk, that means this year's championship has an asterisk as well.

[@rajmandalam6506]

Thing is, Lakers ring does NOT have an asterisk. There's no such thing as an asterisk because every championship will go in the official NBA record books no matter how much people try to deny it.

[@yonder8287]

@@rajmandalam6506 Ik the Lakers ring doesn't have an asterisk but I'm talking about the haters that say their ring doesn't count.

[@ThisThatTheThird]

You don’t think extra fatigue and miles causes players to be more susceptible to injuries even if their freak accidents? Jamal Murray doing a regular move and tearing an acl sounds like he’s been stressing his body too much.

[@richardmags4278]

people are mad at the scheduling because people’s bodies break down without rest and a lot of those injuries would not have happened if the players were at full strength

[@omitn2011]

The Hawks run to the ECF been even more dominant if they had De’Andre Hunter…. They would’ve worked the Bucks!

[@Spawnamvs]

As garbage as it is that the Clippers suffered so many injuries, im happy that I got to see good basketball from both sides and a lot of fight on both ends. The Clippers seemed so gassed and The Suns did what a NBA team should do. Congrats to the Suns for making the Finals and I hope for the best

[@slade1234]

Congratulations CP3

[@jonthecharismagod6996]

To be honest, if the Suns win the whole thing, does that change Chris Paul’s status in the NBA right now. I personally don’t think it does. Hope he wins the chip this year though. 🙏🏿

[@monte6371]

He’s the king of the rubble for this year if he wins (IF), but these playoffs have to have the worst quality set of teams and players that we’ve ever seen. It’s honestly not that interesting to think about a playoffs when the best 3 teams (Nets, Lakers, Clippers) don’t make the finals. Whatever teams make the finals seem like they would’ve been destroyed by any championship team from a previous year. Imagine the warriors with KD if they were going up against the hawks

[@reobae]

Or the suns lol

[@user-lh8zz6st5r]

Handicap ring

[@forgettableuser5318]

I ain't ever been this early

[@20marvelman]

I’m surprised you said the stuff about small ball when the Suns didn’t give ayton the ball at all during game 5. Feels like it would worked And dawg Suns were the second seed lmao

[@Thatguyyoudontknow594]

Yeah injuries happen thats a part of the battle to the finals imo

[@lik7953]

Chris Paul deserves this. He has always been the unlucky one in the playoffs. Finally, he’s lucky enough to make the finals(still injured like 6 times lol this playoffs but that shows how unlucky he has been in his career)

[@FinalQueue007]

The value of this title (assuming they win it) will also depend on what happens with Booker and Ayton career wise. If lets say Booker ends his career with 7 rings or something he'll be in the GOAT debate easily. Which means people are going to nitpick his titles and will look at this one. Which is how injuries will be brought up and people will discredit it. Plus add in the fact that this season and last season was during covid so going to be looked at a bit more than other seasons (assuming years from now they talk about Covid in schools). Its all a trickle down effect in a sense

[@RealCGH]

My man Devin would easily be 4 time all star if guard position wasn't so stacked in the west

[@rene.s.s]

Toronto chip year was still a worse injury year.

[@socialistbatman]

The basketball gods gave CP3 one last test with COVID. If he tested negative in time, then they’d finally let him fulfill his prophecy.

[@MOCskoden]

Like a good neighbor Chris Paul is there

[@FringSpield87]

What do you want to see in 2K22, Dom?

[@AKRosarioMusic]

Reggie Jacskon = Ben Gordon

[@daelin9759]

They should have just played this season in a adjusted bubble

[@t-dogg3250]

It would be so awesome if he wins his chips!!! Nobody deserved it more than him!! Best PG of all time 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@Mrjdog304]

If anybody else was to win this year's championship it should be Chris Paul and a year marked by injury whatifs it's great a guy like Chris Paul whose career is marked by injury whatifs

[@MongoJoe7863]

This can go both ways. If people are going to discredit teams that beat a Chris Paul team when he's injured, then they should also discredit this team beating teams with injured stars. I'm not doing that because you gotta play who's in front of you and the Suns are a great team. But we know some people are like that.

[@barsbarsbarz]

there's a lot of similarities between this year's suns and the 2011 mavs. deep ass bench, great shooting, athletic defensive wings, aging star known for underperforming in the postseason having their best playoffs. no one player who needs to drop 30-40 every game, bunch of castaway NBA players revitalizing their career. they got a balanced attack.

[@peterpan3022]

still a lot different though. dirk was way more important and dominant in 2011 than cp3 this year. and he had noone like booker. you could argue kidd was the cp3 of the mavs but then still dirk >> booker. books been great this postseason but 2011 dirk was just something special. he rly willed that team to the title, was basically unguardable and put away the repeat champion kobe gasol lakers, the thunder with durant westbrook and harden and bron wade bosh in the finals. all healthy btw. there maybe are some similarities but if u look at it in depth there is a lot of difference still.

[@barsbarsbarz]

@@peterpan3022 I'm not saying it's an exact copy of those two teams but just in terms of the run they're going on and where CP3 and Dirk were in their careers. This feels like his Dirk run and the surrounding cast I think of the Suns are much better, but the elite shooting and defense echoes similarities

[@thatguywesmaranan]

if patrick beverley is your second option, your team is not getting far...

[@kdubfresh23]

kinda want cp3 to retire if the suns win it all, wanna see him go out on top book been playing really well for his first playoff run, hopefully we see more to come in the future