Is LMNT LYING To You, Or Are They Innocent?

[@KCCAT5]

They can call it a flavor carrier they can call it a polka dotted dress I don't care what they call it it is an ingredient plain and simple and they left it off the list that's a breach of trust

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

I agree it’s about trust more than anything.

[@terfalicious]

100% I call it a lie

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

👍🏼

[@ChrisBairKeto]

18:07 oof! more maltodextrin that potassium and magnesium. I like that you've reduced the problem down to "how do we get from 'we test everything and know about our ingredients' to 'oh gee, we didn't know'"

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Thanks so much! It’s pretty evident to me that the issue is less about “how much” and much more about “how did you not know”.

[@melindaspencer-sackett2092]

Thank you Chris. This is what I was looking for from the content creators I follow. You are the first to do a complete breakdown of the broken trust with LMNT. I hope LMNT comes correct

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Glad it was helpful!

[@1976mcfarlane]

I completely agree. Steve from serious keto and Chris are the only ones I've seen who have been sensible and honest about how they feel about this.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Thanh ya kindly. 👍🏼😊

[@sheilam4964]

Steve from Serious Keto also showed us how to do a home test for maltodextrin. If a few drops of iodine turn purple or dark blue (a result for starches) it has maltodextrin in it.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Great video 😊👍🏼

[@CoffeeNinjaJinxy]

Thank you for this thoughtful review . I find it disappointing that the sponsored influencers ALL found it acceptable that LMNT behaved in this way. That statement about 3rd party testing was there long before they disclosed the maltodextrin info, so either they lied about testing or results. I've unfollowed them all for choosing sponsorship over integrity and will happily stick with water that only carries the salt, magnesium, and potassium I put in it. I'm over companies "failing" in this way and continuously being excused for those failings.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

I agree it seems to be a repeated issue. I think many people are under a contractual obligation to say good things, and I don’t blame them for paying their bills at all. Just wish I knew if they really felt thus way or if there parroting info per LMNT’s expectations to handle the PR issue happening right now.

[@LisaNix2]

I have a friend who has a maltodextrin allergy- if she happens to have any by mistake she ends up in the ER. She knows to stay away from ‘natural flavors’. This is very bad for someone with this allergy.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

I can understand

[@sassysuzy4u]

I have a friend that I had recommended LMNT to because I trusted their schpeel about always testing and knowing what is in it, but every time she had it she would get very sick... and now we find out they have not just a little maltodextrin, but A LOT, and she has a major sensitivity to anything corn based. If it had been disclosed from the beginning I wouldn't have suggested she try it.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

I think many seen to be in that same boat.

[@jamesdspaderf2883]

If LMNT got that wrong, what else are they getting wrong. LMNT has lost the customers confidence.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Exactly my rights.

[@jenhope514]

I switched from LMNT to saltt when I found out LMNT had maltodextrin and wasn't disclosing it. Since LMNT advertises to health conscious consumers, it is unethical not to list it, even if it is a miniscule amount. The saltt chocolate is better than the LMNT imo so I'm ok with the switch.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Glad you enjoy the SALTT. We love it too. 😊🧂

[@justsuzy321]

Thank for 5hat. I am going to check into Saltt

[@a-trainsandroid6731]

So glad I never bought LMNT. But I did use their FREE recipe to make my own electrolytes available on their website.

[@jenhope514]

@a-trainsandroid6731 yes I have all the ingredients for plain electrolytes but I enjoy the chocolate in my coffee and a flavored one in water. It doesn't bother me to buy flavored ones, but I definitely wouldn't pay for the unflavored ones. I'm glad I was able to find an alternative and they actually taste better to me.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

👍🏼

[@suzannedeans9762]

What is truely disturbing about this, is that there are some people who are allergic to maltodextrin. This could be disastrous.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

True

[@happys795]

The element has done a lot of damage to me. I have battled Psoriasis and Ben by the grace of God doing carnivore/carnivore for 13 months I have dropped about 80 pounds but the psoriasis has been really tough. Couldn’t understand when I found out what was going on with LMNT I switched to SALTT. Psoriasis is going a way last night. I forgot to take my electrolytes and the only thing I had where I was was LMNT I thought oh well everybody saying it’s not that much. I took it within 15 minutes. Psoriasis was itching so bad. I have been free from all that itching ever since I stopped at LMNT.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

That’s very interesting. Glad you ironed that out.

[@KatrinaBricknell]

100% agree with everything you have said. I am extremely tired of the word salad from the influencers who are justifying or dismissing what has happened with LMNT and am actively unfollowing them all. I know me unfollowing them probably means nothing to them, though. im just a simple Aussie girl with no influence. It is disappointing to hear those who are sponsored by this company actively go into damage control to diminish and dismiss concerns of people who have experienced issues or spikes with LMNT. Some even told people that if they disagree with them on this, then they should not be following their channels - so disrespectful! Anyways, I am waffling here (or is that chaffling? 😂) but wanted to say thank you for a clear and respectful video and understanding the breach of trust, wherever the source of that may be.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Thank you for your input. I’d love to hear what people think if they aren’t contractually obligated to only say certain things. I get they have to pay their bills, and I don’t blame them. KZbin is very hard work. But it’s disappointing to hear what feels like the same marketing email being done with slightly different wording in video after video.

[@christinecurtis6752]

Really great review. Thank you Chris. I personally feel utterly deceived. Along with their claims of meticulous testing, they highly promoted that they used "No Dodgy Ingredients". I would not have purchased their product if I knew that it contained maltodextrin. Smart folks that really took advantage of a health-conscious community.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

I think many others feel the same as you do. 👍🏼

[@alysiaandjohnglass]

The blood sugar needle is not the real issue here other than trust. It’s insulin, say you’re popping a packet midday and you think you’re fasting. Well you had an insulin rise all your hard work just went to pot.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Indeed 👍🏼

[@ellieb2914]

Thank you Chris. That was very thorough. My immediate thought when I heard all of this was that they have industrial recipes that dictate, by weight, now much 'natural flavoring' goes into each batch of electrolyte powder. They knew the 'by stick' measurement of maltodextrin in their 'natural flavoring' far exceeded 4mg long ago and chose not to disclose. I appreciate you pointing out how many times they repeat how much testing they have done and continuously do on their product. To claim ignorance at this point is quite a stretch, in my opinion. Thanks again for taking this on.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

You may very well be right.

[@Irish_Lass2024]

I agree!

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

😊👍🏼

[@janellesobaskie3288]

I have tried LMNT and enjoyed the tart, fruit flavors... however I avoid maltodextrin. I will be not be purchasing LMNT going forward, regardless if the inclusion of maltodextrin was accidental or intentional.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

I understand completely. That’s why we enjoy SALTT so much more.

[@22qcat]

I haven’t gotten bent out of shape about any of this because I have never used it. I stay away from most products with “natural” flavors, because they usually spike my blood glucose. Yes, I do check. I’m not diabetic, but just figure I don’t need that. I have a feeling we may never know the exact truth behind all of this LMNT mess. Thanks for all the info & your take on this, Chris. Very well said! Something to think about, for sure. 😊

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Thanks so much Lynne. Sounds like you’ve got it locked in. Great to hear! 👍🏼😊

[@draxofthenorth4649]

The flavour manufacturer for LMNT told LMNT they where using .4grams not 4mg. If you watch the 2krazyKetos video starting at about 50 minutes you will get the facts. Joe from 2krazyKetos was the one who first began this story 2 years ago. The mistake was LMNT’s and not the manufacturer. Check it out it’s very interesting.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

I’ll check it out. If it’s a simple “we said the wrong thing” error I would think LMNT would own that and quickly put the whole thing to rest with that explanation. Curious that hasn’t been shouted from the rooftops by their team. 👍🏼

[@christopherraia]

I made my own raw LMNT using the recipe on their website. I am convinced their packaged raw LMNT has maltodextrin also. Theirs is noticably sweeter than my homemade version.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Interesting. A simple test would tell us.

[@christopherraia]

So one drop of stevia with my homemade LMNT mixture and it tastes exactly the same as store bought.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Great 👍🏼

[@whitneysmithdevargas402]

I have issues, in general, with FDA and certifications for manufacturing. The FDA is not about transparency or health. Labels have been misleading since their inception. Natural flavors should never be a term used for ingredients as sugar is a natural ingredient. I think things should change for industry standards as to what is acceptable (apparently small amounts of arsenic can be ok at times). I also don't think you should call something sugar-free or zero sugar if you are using a substitute that most likely turns to sugar in your system- stevia. There will always be margins of error when it comes to mass distribution of any product. It is disappointing that this happened, but it will be telling how they address this and what all they do as a company to remedy this.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

I agree.

[@courtneyparks9061]

I'm a type 2 diabetic and I loved the flavors from LMNT. However, it always left me feeling nauseated afterwards. Now it makes sense.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Very well could be the reason.

[@RAZER1RR]

My take, LMNT is absolutely 100% at fault no matter how it came about. The way they are handling this whole thing I will never recommend or use any products they sell.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

I agree. My concern is definitely in how they handle the business more than the amount of maltodextrin in the product at this point.

[@cindystrachan8566]

I hate it when manufacturers hide behind semantics to make their products appear to be something they’re not. “Flavor carrier” versus ingredient? The FDA allows a 20% margin of error in reporting information on ingredients, calorie counts, etc. So you know those calories are being fudged. What if instead of maltodextrin it contained a similar amount of arsenic? Transparency dude.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Transparency is important to me as well. 👍🏼

[@paulasanders1078]

I could tell the fruity flavored LMNT had some form of sweetener at the first sip! To learn that it does in fact have a little maltodextrin in the "Natural Flavors" comes as no surprise. It did not spike my blood glucose at all. But then I also dilute it using 32 ounces of water.

[@patriciavarga4084]

@@paulasanders1078 I use one packet to a half gallon. Going flavorless going forward.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Makes sense

[@loretta6089]

​@@patriciavarga4084Why not switch to SalTT? Why would you give your money to a company that lied to its customers. SalTT has a much better amount of potassium and magnesium

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

This is my feeling. But to each their own. 😊

[@paulasanders1078]

@@ChrisCookingNashville You are always sooo diplomatic! YAY!! for you!

[@lauracjlaw]

Absolutely agree with your approach, Chris! Facts should always be front and center, allowing everyone to make their own informed decision on whether or not to use this product. Your breakdown really highlights how responsible content should be handled. It’s a stark contrast to responses like those from Carnivore Quest or IndigoNili, who seem more focused on defending the company and pushing aside community concerns. Thanks for setting the standard for integrity in covering this topic!

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Thanks for your compliment and for watching. I never want to make waves for no reason, but I think trust is this community is vital. I’ve seen many people upset, and while I don’t blame my friends at Carnivore Quest or Indigo Nili for their sponsorship and the contractual expectation to support LMNT I feel like so many people are struggling to see through the muck of all this to figure out if that’s really them speaking or if it’s LMNT speaking through them. Either way I appreciate you watching and seeing my intention in creating this video. ❤️👍🏼

[@annk1250]

I was going to use Salty but i called them and asked what was the natural flavoring in their product they wouldn't tell me what it was! I don't use LMNT or salty.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

The full breakdown is on their website, which is linked in the description, and there’s a live stream with Chris Bair linked as well where he explains all of this. They are completely transparent and on the level and share everything openly.

[@southernketo]

Thank you so much for weighing in on this and doing the research!

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

My pleasure. Not sure if I made anything any clearer for myself or anyone else to draw conclusions. But I felt like I should share what stuck out to me about this.

[@southernketo]

​@@ChrisCookingNashvilleyou did. 😁

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

👍🏼😊

[@southernketo]

​@@ChrisCookingNashville😁

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

😊

[@ladyhawk6999]

Well I am pissed, I just bought one box of all the flavors again. Big bucks and then this crap breaks out! Not happy. Kind of deciding if I should throw it or not! Doubt they would take it back even though it is unopened. Sucks bevause I liked LMMT. I will never trust any company again.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

I understand how you feel. I think the product for most people is probably fine. I’m more concerned with the way it’s being handled and how things got to this point in the first place. You have to make the best decision you can for your health. 👍🏼

[@PursuingBetterHealth]

@ladyhawk6999 I would call LMNT and ask for a refund.

[@janp7660]

I would contact the company before you throw it out. It sounds like you've been using it without issue so why throw it out without giving them a chance to make it right? Just my opinion.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Good thoughts 👍🏼

[@boobiegoats]

You know, Keto Chow sells a bottle of electrolytes pills and it's like 35 bucks, for 280 days of electrolytes.

[@jtalias]

My problem is this: a well known female influencer said MONTHS ago after an LMNT pitch that she knew of complaints of LMNT spiking blood sugar for some. So why did no one investigate that then, or did they and what happened? And why is this just now coming out when it has been going on for months if not years? I like their stuff and don’t have spikes, so will continue to use it. But I do think they should disclose it and it just reminds us all to take highly influenced products with a literal grain of salt.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Sounds very fishy to me.

[@anniecbee]

I switched from LMNT to SALTT because it’s less expensive and I really like the way the Bair’s do business.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

I agree. Same here. 😊

[@sherieragan765]

Thank for your thoughts! Question: How would a company like LMNT publicly address this issue? A Facebook post? A letter blast to all customers? Some kind of press conference? A news media release? My intension is to not be petty or smug, I just wanted a clue where to look for a possible public apology, or an ask to regain trust. Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts! 🖖🏻👍🏻😘🙏🏻

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Good question. I think social media and probably a post on their main website page as well as an email blast to all their customers would be a good place to start.

[@sherieragan765]

@ thank you.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Anytime 😊

[@deozeo4442]

Hi Chris! 👋🐈 Well done on vid. I found LMNT way too expensive. Steve, from "Serious Keto", gave formula (compounds and weights), for an equivalent of LMNT (minus flavor). I need electrolytes due to my Keto lifestyle so I make Steve's concoction at a cost of pennies (well, dimes/quarters). 🐈

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Thanks so much. Totally understand.

[@deozeo4442]

@ChrisCookingNashville You are quite welcome!! 🐈

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

👍🏼😊

[@InTheMiddleOfAForest]

Chris, Thank you for this eloquently stated video! Your opinion is one I agree with 💯 is the Bair's & the 2KK. As a small KZbinr....what I put on the interwebs is as important today with under 1k as it will be into the future as I grow. Now PERSONALLY...my N=1 WOE has evolved so much that what was good for me to eat is now nope....not going to go there or eat "that" 🤔 it didn’t happen over night. Today, knowingly I avoid anything that has "natural flavors" as that term in itself is sketchy. For example, Phillip Morris & all the cigarette manufacturers have in large part turned towards the food manufacturing industry to hire people to appeal to the consumer addictions now of food as opposed to tobacco. That Sir is a rabbit hole to deep to dig here😳 Soon....yes SOON...we all will witness a shift in making America & the rest of the WORLD healthy again!

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Thanks for watching Geri! Yes what you do now will matter going forward so much. ❤️

[@KetoSimple]

Regarding the magnesium malate content listed at 60mg, it would require approximately 499mg of magnesium malate powder to achieve the 60mg stated on the package. When I research magnesium malate powders available for purchase, I see that a typical 2.5g serving provides around 300mg of magnesium malate. If this aligns with what’s used in the product, then the maltodextrin content, potentially up to 550mg, would indeed exceed the amount of magnesium. I haven’t yet reviewed the potassium content, so I’ll need to calculate that separately. This gives a bit of insight into the component amounts and how they contribute to the total 6g packet weight.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Interesting. Thanks for sharing more figures with us to make things clearer.

[@jodyjackson5475]

Bravo!! Exactly what I was expecting and not receiving from the sponsored content creators 😮

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Glad I could help. 😊👍🏼

[@joshbimthedoctor]

I wish Saltt would sell in the big tubs like Redmond does. The individual packa drive the price up so much

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

You should message them and ask about it. The more feedback and requests they get the more chance they might do so.

[@ChrisBairKeto]

I made a SALTT prototype of a big tub like that and sent it to a friend in Florida to test - it turned into a solid puck really quickly. Unless we add bulking agents to prevent that, it's probably not going to happen.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Good info on why. ☝🏼👍🏼😊

[@rgvtexas8391]

As I stated in your other video when you took the SALTT and made it into a YOOHOO drink, I bought it, tried it yesterday and within 15 minuets I was in the bathroom with the worst diarrhea I've ever had. It felt like I had consumed a colon prep drink. I looked up the ingredients and discovered the magnesium chloride they use causes the diarrhea. I had even used more water, 24 ounces and it made no difference. I thought that maybe if I add less of the mix to more water it would make a difference, it didn't. The diarrhea continued on till the next day even after I stopped drinking it early in the day. So I will take the LMNT with a microscopic trace amount of maltodextrin over screaming diarrhea any day of the week. I bought mine from Amazon and it was not returnable but when I spoke to customer service and explained why I wanted to return it they immediately refunded my account and said for me to dispose of the product. Each person has a right to their own opinion and Chris you definitely drove yours to the home base.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

@@rgvtexas8391 👍🏼

[@suetsnbjj2853]

Never purchased the very pricey LMNT. Interesting with the inundation of “health products” in the market these days. 😏.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Indeed

[@RoninDosho]

I bought in with LMNT. But I also bought in with the LMNT recipe, which btw doesn't include Maltodextrin. I make my own now, which as a long distance cyclist satisfies my need for electrolytes. Not only that It's way much less expensive.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@nitzerebbandflow]

I wonder if influencers will take up another contract with lmnt when their current ones finish. This is a very good lesson about "natural flavourings" being not so natural. I'm just staying away from them now. The repeated use of "diligent" in their writing is just more nails in the coffin. They're not a company I'm happy to support now - their behaviour is dishonest and unethical, whatever reasoning they give.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

I think many others feel the same way you do right now.

[@1976mcfarlane]

I switched to saltT for my cocoa flavored electrolytes because that version dissolves best and tastes so good. I also love Dr. Bergs electrolytes because they use non gmo citric acid. Lmnt needs to clean up the ingredients, healthier salt and go non GMO because they are one of the most expensive brands. I was pretty disappointed in how many creators stood up for this company. Its very obvious who decided to keep pedaling this product and overlook the garbage ingredients

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

I love the chocolate saltt. 😊

[@christinaheltabbott7337]

Thank you Chris! This was the best commentary video on this controversial subject that I’ve heard! You made some crucial points and really those points are what it is about… It’s the principal of this whole thing. My trust is lost and now it’s time to move on. But it angers me that just when I felt like I could completely trust something, I was let down. Especially by Robb Wolf… The beginning of my better health started with him 12 years ago and so I am the most bummed about all of that.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Thanks so much for watching. 😊

[@shellydickinson8598]

This is a very measured, clear and concise review-I think they really shot themselves in the foot

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Thank you 😊

[@DarthCarnivore]

Thanks for taking time to research and share your thoughts on this, Chris. I'll have to give SaLTT unflavored a try: I was impressed with Baird's KPL presentation. I usually make my own electrolyte mix (Redmond's copycat), which I carry in a clear glass jar. I found out the hard way that trying to get my unlabeled electrolyte mix through airport TSA security elicits all sorts of additional security checks. I'll use your affiliate link to get my unflavored SALTT before I travel in the next several weeks. Thanks!

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Totally understand! I agree. Making your own is great but these are so perfect for traveling. Chris did a great job at KPL for sure!

[@ChrisBairKeto]

yes sir, it's totally not drugs, it's salt! I swear!

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

😁😁😁

[@justsuzy321]

Thank you Chris!! I will look into Saltt. I'm kind of hooked on a 2 morning coffees with a half packet of LMNT choc caramel. I started using that instead of cream. I've already devided to give up coffee for my 1 year carniversary on March 1, 2025.... but until then 😅

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Sounds great! You may enjoy SALTT as much as we do. Carmel Vibes is a chocolate caramel flavor and I really enjoy it. 👍🏼😊

[@audreygregis8721]

I don't use any of these drink additives to get my minerals. I have always chosen to get my minerals in whole form, not just a handful, but all of them. I've been a mineral freak since I was 55yo, and I'm now 70. But, I can tell you that I do not blame LMNT for this, rather the manufacturer, who showed them the COA (Certificate of Analysis). Whether there was a 3rd party or not, when you partner with someone, you assume they are giving you the right information. So, the 3rd party is to blame. I mean, can you imagine having to go behind someone you contracted with to make sure they are telling you the truth? I'm sure this wasn't a fly-by-night testing company. Has anyone thought about equipment malfunctioning? Or humans malfunctioning? Actually, you would be shocked how often this happens. I was with a supplement company a couple years ago, they had the COA. Although some users saw results, many did not. So, the owners decided to take it upon themselves to find another testing facility....and low and behold, nothing was going to dissolve that capsule. YET, the manufacturer had the COA, and it was 3rd party tested. Maybe the testing was originally fine, but maybe along the way, equipment wasn't doing what it was supposed to. There are sooo many scenarios that could have happened. Before anyone nails LMNT to the cross, we all should step back and understand equipment isn't perfect, testing isn't always perfect, humans aren't always perfect.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@shirleyujest7786]

I just cancelled my subscription. Thank you for letting me know. I have avoided maltodextrin for tummy reasons . This explains some tummy issues on days I consumed a lot of LMNT water while working outside. I also want to see them make a statement an acknowledge this issue. Informed consent must always be first and foremost.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Happy to help. I’d love to see them change things and earn back the trust and continue forward.

[@rancancookcanoy9768]

Chris, great video. I watched Steve with Serious Ketos video and Dr. Berg videos and the iodine test. Thank you. Have a great rest of the week.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Thanks, you too my friend!

[@super6081]

Thanks Chris, My question is as I can't find it anywhere...Since the 'RAW' version of LMNT is not flavored what would they need maltodextrin as a flavor carrier for?

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

No maltodextrin in the raw unflavored. 👍🏼

[@super6081]

Many thanks, very well done video. The Raw version of LMNT and Redmonds Unflavored are the only ones I have ever used. I appreciate your logic and calm demeanor in your explanation. Cheers 😀

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Thanks so much 👍🏼😊

[@PyrealRabbit]

I personally feel that Re-lyte from Redmond suffers from the same or worse problem. On an empty stomach it makes me drowsy, which is my reaction to an insulin spike,

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

I believe they also use it. Could be why.

[@BigTodd-ws6yd]

Great PSA CCN!!! I do drink LMNT, but questioning that decision now. I'm interested if you did the same research with Salty as you recommend. Do they also include maltodextrin in their drink mix? Take good care and look forward to your next video.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Thanks! 👍🏼 All the info is laid out transparently on their website as linked in the description box. I’ve known SALTT verifiably has zero maltodextrin for a long time.

[@davidchapamusicofficial]

The amount is 1/10th of a teaspoon. Should they have disclosed it? Yes. Is that amount meaningful? It is such a minuscule amount that it is a non-issue, it shouldn’t matter, other than they should have been forthright with this information. I may or may not switch from LMNT based on this. The reality is the standard American diet I was eating before carnivore was way worse for my health than this minuscule amount of maltodextrin in the LMNT packets.

[@davidchapamusicofficial]

What is the “natural flavorings” in Keto Chow’s electrolytes? I can’t find that on their website.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

The SALTT page is linked in the description and it gives full transparency, as I stated. And as the whole point of the video says, the amount has nothing to do with my issue. Right is right regardless of how much maltodextrin that does or doesn’t equate to, no exceptions.

[@lindamatyas5526]

But even though the maltodextrin doesn’t raise glucose, it does raise insulin. So if you’re doing any kind of fasting for weight reduction, for instance, this rise in insulin will prevent weight loss for that period of time. If you take the LMNT at mealtimes, then this would not be an issue. Just a thought.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Good point 👍🏼

[@jennit.i.murphy118]

Thank you Chris. I checked out the link you have for Keto Chow/ SaltT and I think I'm gonna switch from LMNT to SaltT and also I'm gonna try the Keto Chow shake mixes. I'm gonna try them out first though before I make my decision, but they look good.😊 👍🏻

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Sounds great! Hope you enjoy them as much as we do. 😊

[@GodandBrooksFallsbears]

I just started watching and just wanted to share I buy whichever electrolytes I can afford on disability income, & as of late its been LMNT because of finding it on ebay and able to use PayPal pay in 4 plan, yes LMNT might have that one ingredient but sometimes it comes down to other factors for me in choosing, I prefer the Orange flavor in both saltt and LMNT because they don’t seem to cause me problems with heartburn, but keto chow doesn’t use PayPal, I also like body armor iv , but also expensive, could make my own but hard to get exact ratios right. Do what needs done to keep leg cramps away at night & my knee to not twitch with pain

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Makes sense 👍🏼

[@ChrisBairKeto]

If you message KC customer service they can turn on PayPal as a payment option for you.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Customer service 😊☝🏼👍🏼

[@KCCAT5]

I first heard about this through Dr boz and then carnivore quest addressed it and I'm still not buying LMNT because of the cost. I refuse to spend $45 for a box of electrolytes when I get more magnesium out of my evening pills THEN I do in a packet of salt. I was planning on trying their chocolate line when they came out this year but knowing there's maltodextrin in it and how detrimental that is to me and how that's probably going to make me want to crave I'm not going to do it. I heard the story that they were duped by their supplier whether it's true or not remains to be seen but I'm still not going to buy it

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Good thoughts 👍🏼

[@karinmiller2093]

Thank you! I’ve paused my subscription and I’m still on the fence about it. I want to believe them but I’m not really not sure what to think. Your in depth analysis is really helpful!

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Glad it was helpful. Make the best decision you can for your health whatever that is. 😊👍🏼

[@meeshalabird8233]

I used LMNT when I first started carnivore but stopped. I found it expensive and too sweet and I didn’t like the unflavored one. It also didn’t make me feel great and I didn’t think they had that much potassium in it. And my sister says she’s gained 10 pounds since she started using them!!!

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Interesting. I’ve heard others say the same. We feel so much better with SALTT personally.

[@paulburkey2]

Yeah, I wasn't happy when I heard that still not happy with their response, but I am addicted to the chocolate caramel for my coffee so until I find something better, I will probably keep using it

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

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[@Arrendle]

Great video, I think you highlighted some really good points. One thing that I think should be highlighted(even though you say it's probably not important) is the amount of maltodextrin. I take supplements. many of those supplements are 250 mg, 300 mg, 500 mg, per dose. You don't need a massive dose of a supplement to make a change in your body. Anyway, I don't take LMNT, it seemed too expensive for an electrolyte product, in my mind.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Good point!

[@gullinvarg]

From what I saw from another content creator, who is pro-LMNT, LMNT was who found out about the larger amount of maltodextrin by doing 3rd party testing and posted it. In other words this whole controversy came up from them trying to do the right thing when they got more information. Take it with whatever grains of salt you care to (pun intended 😁). For what it's worth, I use SALTT, so I don't have any skin in this game. My only concern is that they're being punished for trying to do the right thing, so what example does that set for other companies?

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

I totally get that. You might watch the live stream I linked in the description though. It makes me question if LMNT found anything out or just got caught. Can’t say for sure. Interesting info from inside the business though.

[@gullinvarg]

@@ChrisCookingNashville there are things they're saying that are at least tone deaf in terms of "that amount doesn't affect me" (you're not the only person that's brought that up). At the least their handling of the backlash has been less than ideal. I just worry that other companies won't even say anything because "look at what happened to LMNT".

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

True

[@gullinvarg]

@@ChrisCookingNashville I don't know if you normally watch Serious Keto, but you might find the video on testing for maltodextrin that he posted today interesting.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Sure do. Watched it right after it dropped. Cool video to see how it works and how easy it is.

[@darla123]

Glad I switched to SALTT when it came out. I always thought LMNT was too salty.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Same here

[@loretta6089]

I never really cared for LMNT because the ratio of sodium to potassium & magnesium seemed off to me. SalTT is much better and its actually cheaper as an added bonus 😊 oh and btw maltodextrin is an extremely harmful ingredient in any amount

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

I agree about SALTT. Makes me feel much better than LMNT did.

[@drewnicest4319]

That hair is incredible. Was it that thick before carnivore?

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Haha thanks. Yes it has been this way my whole life. Lol. But it does grow faster on carnivore.

[@JustJasonKeto]

Personally I am more disappointed in the sponsored "influencers" that are saying we a making something out of nothing! I hope they either find a new supplier or include ALL of the ingredients on the box so that everyone can make their own informed choices! Thanks for having a good perspective on this 👍

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Thanks for watching 😊

[@jenniferwood4165]

I purchased Saltt multi-flavor package, and there is something in their packets that has a “chemical/metallic” flavor that I do not like. I cannot figure out what it is…I could NOT finish the large package due to the off-putting flavor I tasted. So I switched back to LMNT. I agree with some of the issues that LMNT needs to update their website…to be better transparent. I wonder if they made a switch in their flavor carrier vendor? And that they tested the earlier vendor’s product when developing their marketing materials and website??? Hoping that time will tell.

[@niritzagofsky7473]

Hi, Chris. Now I understand how you come up with great recipes! It's your attention to detail as witnessed in this video about LMNT. I tried ordering it once, but I live in Israel, and it just didn’t work. No great loss, I now see. Thanks for all your hard work. Btw, my gluten-sensitive granddaughter really enjoyed your chicken nuggets video as well as the chicken flour and the spaghetti videos.😊

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

I’m so glad!!! Thank you. 😊

[@Leslie-1658]

I just paused my LMNT subscription. 😢 I've been putting a packet of Chocolate Carmel in my morning coffee and totally look forward to it every day. I'm going to check out SaltT and appreciate your video.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Sounds good. I hope you enjoy the SALTT as much as we do. 👍🏼😊

[@patriciavarga4084]

I’m going with flavorless from whomever I choose going forward.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Smart

[@karenok464]

I try to ingest zero maltodextrin. It makes me feel awful. This explains so much about why i have felt "off" for the last few months, since purchasing LMNT. I am throwing out the rest of my sticks. I appreciate you for taking the time to research and inform us about this.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Anytime. Hope you might find something like SALTT or making your own to be better. 👍🏼

[@mmanda515]

As someone who (& on a much smaller scale) worked with someone in the vape industry years ago, dealing with flavorings.... LMNT knew all along what their flavor carrier was & how much was used. From day ONE, it's part of the formula workings pre-sale & post manufacturing. ALL that info would be on those testing & COA papers. Imho, someone (at LMNT) either misspoke about the 4mg when being called out about it, OR worse.. hoped to make it seem a much smaller/trace amount. Either way, kinda shady. That said, I do give them huge props for trying to do the right thing & come clean. For some reason, the whole thing still sits wrong with me.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Good points 👍🏼

[@ChrisBairKeto]

@@mmanda515 coming from a food manufacturing background, I have the same opinion. We have specifications and COAs for every ingredient.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Good insight here ☝🏼😊

[@leahschmidt4067]

When I first used LMNT I don’t think they used MD. The product would be clumpy and not dissolve completely… Now all of sudden it dissolves beautifully. It’s the addition of the MD. Knew there had to be reason. LMNT should address that MD had been added to help with shelf life and dissolving. I appreciate that LMNT shared their flavored recipes to make our own.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

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[@paulbainjr]

Five drops of iodine in any liquid will turn purple if the product has maltodextrin in it . I tested it Lmnt was purple salty from keto. chow stayed clear.. Maltodextrin is a white powder made from corn, rice, potato starch, or wheat, it's highly processed.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

It will indeed

[@gingerwright7736]

I have always preferred SALTT Clean Slate.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@historyteacher4402]

I love the SALTT for coffee and the other flavors, too. I get LMNT as a subscription. I am probably going to cancel. But I am hoping they get their act together and get rid of maltodextrin altogether.

[@Carol32547]

Steve from serious Keto tested it against SaltT LMNT tested pos and SaltT did not

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Correct 👍🏼

[@cynthiagilbreth1352]

Very good presentation. However, as the final producer of the electrolyte, it is LMNT’s responsibility to know what is in their products. Having worked in industries that have produced items for final consumption I understand that the final producer has the responsibility for its products. The industries that I worked in produced items that had a much larger impact on the end consumer, so maybe we were a bit more careful. But I agree that their clams are certainly ringing false. BTW, I worked in automotive manufacturing, oil refining, and aerospace (think B-2 stealth bomber).

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Makes sense to me. I think there’s more to the story than we’re probably ever going to know.

[@DianaA-qe9py]

paused my lmnt when i heard about this, not sure i was having any problems from it... tried saltt... do not like but one flavor and found i needed more than one packet for my water bottle, had to cancel subscription and start again to change order... guess i need to try to find my own safe flavoring to add to plain electrolyte packs, hate to find myself drifting back to diet coke... i cannot stand plain water

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

👍🏼

[@janicemorris1585]

Thank you so much for this information.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

You are so welcome!

[@jeanniemccullough7212]

Chris the problem I have with the whole thing now is that they came out with two different "excuses". If you go watch Nick Norwitz video and see the direct response he received from LMNT they told him that they made a "math error". They made it sound like they knew all along the true amount but they made an error when they reported it originally. So basically they're giving two different stories on the one hand blaming it on the natural flavor company and not having full disclosure from them. And on the other hand saying they made the math error. So at this point we have no idea what the truth is. Anyway you look at it it's all shady on their part in my opinion. Personally I have no skin in the game because I don't use their product. I use SALTT and Redmond Relyte.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Yeah I’m trying to wade through everything that has been said as well. It’s all very convoluted at this point.

[@karenreaves3650]

All the standard sweet and lows, contains Maltodextrin or another type of sugar. I was able to find it online, I use Keto chow electrolytes.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@ArchStanton9]

FWIW, LMNT has the formula for the basic electrolyte ingredients on its website. Sodium chloride, potassium chloride, and magnesium malate. You can add anything else you want (or not). It's a WHOLE LOT cheaper, too.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

The formula to make your own has nothing to do with what is right or what is wrong to do as a business, which is why so many people feel upset.

[@ArchStanton9]

@ChrisCookingNashville Of course not. I didn't mean to imply that it does. I'm just pointing out to folks that they can make it themselves without any additives and add their own carb free flavors if they are so inclined. A lot of folks are put off by the price anyway, and making your own can cut the serving cost to pennies. I bought LMNT once, but I won't again. Partly because of the cost and definitely because of the maltodextrin and their lack of transparency and/or quality control.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@mcbroker1]

I am a T1 Juvenile Diabetic and it made my sugar go up, so i had to stop drinking it, actually took me awhile to figure out thats what it was causing my sugar to go up I have to take insulin and it just wasnt worth me taking a shot to drink it

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

@@mcbroker1 I uunderstand completely.

[@leelioux]

Whether LMNT knew or didn’t know there was maltodextrin was in the “natural flavors,” my body doesn’t process it well. I took it daily for 3 1/2 months and now I have a lot of issues related to my liver that I need to deal with. I thought it was due to the stevia, but now that I know there was a LOT of maltodextrin in the product, it could be due to that, or a combination of both. I have to have another blood test this week to see if the anomalies we found 8 weeks ago are coming back to normal. I only purchased LMNT because so many of the health influencers I follow all use it and promote it, and I assumed they had done the research and deemed it safe. Even if they did, they had no way of knowing about the maltodextrin until now. It’s just really disappointing. You think you’re doing something good for your body, only to realize it’s quite the opposite.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Totally understand. I don’t think any influencers have intentionally done anything related to this issue. But it’s sad that people feel deceived by all this. This is why I appreciate SALTT so much because they’re so transparent about it because Chris Bair is so informed in this area.

[@terfalicious]

I personally react to maltodextrin according to both my CGM and my Keto Mojo. Keeping my blood sugar under control was initially the whole reason I went keto - my dad died of complications of diabetes this past January and I am borderline diabetic. I don't trust any product using "natural flavors" - that includes LMNT and Keto Chow. They fall under the category of processed foods for me which I want to avoid for exactly the reasons this whole issue blew up!

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

👍🏼 to be fair, Keto Chow and SALTT are completely transparent with everything they use and have an entire article on their site explaining their natural flavors in depth.

[@DeepRootedwithTulani]

Love this !! 💪🏽 yassssss

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

👍🏼😊

[@A1N0]

The real crime is not the maltodextrin its that they are charging you $1.50 for a packet of salt and flavor. This costs them maybe $0.01 at most. A bit of an excessive markup, don't you think?

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

I agree it’s expensive but for the convenience I’m not surprised. I can’t say what it costs to make between the materials, the packaging, the marketing, the distribution, the legal elements, staffing, and a lot more. It’s usually far more expensive to do this type of business than most people think. I don’t fault them for their price so much as for their marketing that claims diligence I don’t see them doing.

[@veronicaheaney3464]

As I have personally been mistaken in reading a decimal place, and I worked in scientific areas for many years, I can see where this could have happened. However, when this “error” became apparent, I agree that they should have been proactive in letting the public know what they have learned. I do use LMNT and like it. I’ve tried others but decided on LMNT because I liked the flavors. I will try SALTT because I’d rather not have maltodextrin if possible, and there are other things with natural flavor added that I use at times that may also contain maltodextrin since it’s probably the most common flavor carrier used, as it’s the least expensive. I would rather not be taking in several grams per day after adding it all up.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@libim3492]

We were working our way through all our LMNT and then were going to swtich to SaltT. That is now over. I've thrown away all the LMNT. Putting in an order today for SaltT. I completely trust Chris and Mirriam.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

I do too. They’re great people. 😊

[@libim3492]

@ChrisCookingNashville I met them when we first started our keto journey almost 5 years ago. Best ever. Supportive and wonderful.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Totally agree. 😊

[@missyvinson5355]

I have questioned my nutritionist about maltodextrin because I found it in a sugar free drink packet I had bought. She said that I because only use half of the pack in the bottle. But I saw it when I bought it. I didn't know what it was. I haven't bought it again. I will see what comes from this, It depends on how it is handled. What they do from here.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Time will tell. 👍🏼

[@LaurenGlass-i7x]

I drank LMNT the weakest it advised, it affected me badly and affected my blood pressure. I can drink nuskin hydrating drinking, redmonds relyte and no problem. I stopped drinking the LMNT and it went away. I have no idea if it was related. I am on gluten free, no sugars diet , grass fed beef , chicken, pork and eggs. I have a clean diet. So i don’t know what caused it. If i can’t determine what is in packaged product i don’t eat or drink it.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Makes sense 👍🏼

[@Beyondblessed726]

"Serious Keto" just put up a video here on youtube testing products for maltodextrin. He tested LMNT and SaltT. It was a super easy way to test products to find hidden maltodextrin. ❤ Just in case you wanted to take a look at that, too! ❤ I may have to try out SaltT soon! I typically use Dr. Berg's electrolytes, but want to try the chocolate flavor from SaltT! Thank you!

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

I just watched it. Really cool. Love the science and how easy it is for us to confirm. 😊

[@Beyondblessed726]

Me too! Makes picking products for families much easier!

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

@ absolutely 😊

[@askdave8581]

LMNT watched the Seinfeld episode about the yogurt and said "hey that's a great idea!"

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

😂

[@dkcN0va2109]

Frankly, the stevia is my problem with the product. Stevia gives me bloat and a stomach ache.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

I understand. Chris Bair actually gave us a rundown of why that may be because Ash got really bad headaches with LMNT (and many other things with stevia) but doesn’t with SALTT, which was confusing. He explained how it’s refined and the higher quality more refined stevia has some things removed which were apparently what causes the allergic response Ash had to it as it’s related to ragweed botanically. Thankfully she can drink SALTT with no issues because they use a higher reality refined version, but most other things with stevia make her feel horrible.

[@dkcN0va2109]

@@ChrisCookingNashville Holy smokes! Ragweed?!?! That explains a LOT -- I have massive ragweed issues. It's been so much better on carnivore now, but still, wow.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Yep it’s pretty interesting. Perhaps the higher quality stevia in SALTT will work for you like it does Ash. Or maybe not. Who knows. Either way it’s good info to have. 😊

[@JeffSimons55]

Thanks, Chris 👍. Well stated.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Very welcome

[@cindydemanche3839]

Brian, being a Type 1 diabetic, has used LMNT in his coffee with no glucose spike at all! We also have SALTT in house along with Redmond Relyte.

[@patriciavarga4084]

Thank you Chris for this very informative episode!

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

My pleasure!

[@jw77019]

They gave not been transparent, although their labeling is probably perfectly legal. Maltodextrin is why I gave up Splenda. Actually, the LMNT product is exhorbitantly expensive when considering its salt, magnesium, and potassium, all of which are easily acquired from reputable sources inexpensively. Most of their flavors were good and they made drinking enough fluid easy and a taste treat. When Dr. Ken Berry said it was a problem except for the unflavored (they sent me a sample of unflavored and it’s not appealing) I called them and canceled. They complied with my request. If they change their formulation I will try it.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

👍🏼

[@andir7854]

well said, had considered ordering the raw version unflavored, but now wonder about it too, so won't do so.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

👍🏼 SALTT clean slate (unflavored) is a great option if that is of interest to you. My discount code will get you 10% off if you’d like to try it.

[@1966mustangable]

I use the sparkling water LMNT. No maltodextrin in that product, or is there?

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

I don’t believe so since liquid flavors don’t need a carrier.

[@sallyrigsby2354]

I contacted them via email and asked them if it had maltodextrin in their stuff. They said yes the flavors do have it. The unflavored does not.

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

I get that. Not the point of the video here though. Marketing, transparency, and making things right based on their own mission statement shouldn’t require an email after the controversy has begun.

[@sallyrigsby2354]

@ChrisCookingNashville true

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

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[@qween_blaz]

I have a CGM... and I noticed that if I drink a packet of LMNT in a glass of water my blood sugar goes Down

[@ChrisCookingNashville]

Most likely because maltodextrin usually causes a spike in insulin as opposed to causing they typical rise in blood sugar I’m guessing.