The Decline Has Only Begun for This Cluster of St. Louis Suburbs

[@ChrisHarden]

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[@Powertuber1000]

Everybody, afraid to say what all these areas have in common😮

[@craiggillett5985]

Pasadena hills is gorgeous. Hello from New Zealand.

[@StephenS-r7q]

You just have to run a gauntlet to get in and out of it safely!

[@Powertuber1000]

Everybody, afraid to say what all these areas have in common.

[@fishpotpete]

So why don't you tell us...

[@Powertuber1000]

@@fishpotpete Because of YT censoring

[@FullExposureStudiosStL]

@@fishpotpete because he's a fvkkkking retread and a ray cyst

[@FullExposureStudiosStL]

@@Powertuber1000 come on, push see. There are ways you can say what you want to say and make people understand it.

[@sssc1955]

My mom grew up in Wellston. It started going downhill in the very early 1960s. When I would go spend the night at my grandmothers, it never failed to see a burning house or two. Owners would burn them down for the insurance. I hated going to Wellston, who, by the way, had its own high school until the population and horrible ratings for the district forced it to close.

[@313-v9k]

Exactly. A decent family with jobs and hopes for a better life buys a house for 100k, over the decades the neighborhood 'declines' and 20 years later the house is worth 40k and they still owe 60k. So yes, burn it down get the insurance which is 175k, they move and process starts all over again.

[@danielmorse4213]

Just say what the dark elephant in the room is!

[@SR-dq8fb]

​@@danielmorse4213😂

[@poetcomic1]

Wellston was a booming shopping district and one of the 'streetcar suburbs' that was the first suburban explosion outside the city.

[@seantyler7401]

Wellston it’s terribly dangerous now. My grandfather worked at a TV repair shop before going to Washington University STL. I’m from STL and still live hear. It’s not getting better

[@shelbyz1974]

Nice older homes in Pasadena Hills. Not surprised they are on the historical register. TY for the tour Chris!👍

[@galactose1]

Your expertise is always appreciated. Thanks for your continual hard work and effort put into your videos.

[@craignovy2090]

OMG this expert video and commentary evaluated an extremely complex place in under 30 minutes! I know very little about the St. Louis metro, now at least I know something very interesting. I really have to salute you Chris for integrating all these places into a coherent whole. What an incredible eye and mind you have.

[@charleykeenan6171]

Great way to cap off my week! Thanks Chris and hope things are going well for you guys, always appreciate a new episode!

[@kylemuldrow4652]

Thank you for starting this video with my alma mater!! I graduated in 1986 and the sports teams were known as the Rivermen and Riverwomen back then. Great memories of my 4 years there! Sad, however, what's happened to most of the cities nearby. Keep up the great work, Chris!

[@cathieknight7464]

I'm a famous Normandy alum 😂, ok maybe not famous but I did go to Normandy all four years of HS. I lived in a little unincorporated city just south of Bel-Ridge and North of the Rock Road..I walked a lot of the area you drove. Going to Normandy was so unfortunate, we had so few resources. We have so many cemeteries in Normandy and that just doesn't bring in a lot of tax revenue. We only got yearbooks our senior year. We never had home football games or track events because our field and track were shit. We used to have a building with a pool in it. When I had gym class my freshman year and had swimming, I was the only one who knew how to swim, so my teacher taught me diving and flipping off the diving board. We used to have barb-wire on top of the fence that surrounded the campus. One day the principal came and visited with the excellerated classes to get feedback from us on school improvements. We wanted the barb-wire gone and it did come down. I have heard that metal detectors were installed a few years after I graduated, so I'm surprised to see it is still gone. It may have been a rough school with few resources but I have fond memories, there were plenty of good students!

[@blueskye991178]

I also graduated from Normandy. We still had a open campus. Indoor pool and track and field. At that time we had the track redone and it was one of the better ones in the area. I lettered all my 3 years there in track basketball and softball. I really miss those times. I think it was east hall that all the seniors got the primo locker spots in 😊.

[@kylemuldrow4652]

What year did you graduate?

[@michaelchappell902]

I remember this area well. In the late 1970's and early 1980's my wife taught and coached women's Sports at UMSL and we lived across the street in some Apt Complex in Normandy and I drove those streets. I was working at Norwest Plaza at the time. It has really gone down hill since then.

[@voltages]

amazing man. I was born here as everything went to shit and constantly find myself envious of the people who got to see it in the prime.

[@kylemuldrow4652]

Which sports did she coach? I was public address announcer for women's basketball 1983-86

[@michaelchappell902]

@@kylemuldrow4652 She was the Assist Softball coach Assist Basketball coach, under Coach Sanchez and did coach a game when Coach Sanchez got hurt, worked with the Field Hockey Team and the Cheerleaders. This was besides her job as the Assist Intermureal Director. She was only there from Fall 1978 until Spring of 1982. Them she got a job at the University of Kansas in Lawrence.

[@kylemuldrow4652]

@@michaelchappell902 That's totally cool! I started at UMSL in Fall 1982 and wrote sports for the UMSL Current during my freshman year. By that time, Mike Larson had become the women's basketball and softball coach. I think UMSL dropped field hockey by the time I started going there. I had a great 4 years at UMSL, but even then the area near UMSL was getting shady. I can just imagine what it's like now, but I'll always love that school.

[@RETlREDAVIATOR]

I transited these neighborhoods/cities every Friday & Sunday during the late 70s. I was either on my way to or from Mount Providence School for Boys in Normandy! I boarded at the shcool during the week and went home to the Central West End every weekend during the school year! Those were great times that seemed like yesterday, but it was over 45 years ago...WOW!😄

[@frankwoods4532]

Viewing your work just makes my day. I love the ride along. well, that's what It feels like to me. Being able to see places I wouldn't see on my own. In this video I really like the first part with the nicer houses. Keep up the great work. I'll be waiting for more of your work and Thanks again.

[@ChrisHarden]

Thanks for the kind words Frank, always appreciated!

[@frankwoods4532]

@@ChrisHarden Your welcome!

[@philiptuths3747]

I enjoy your videos Chris but lumping Pasadena Hills in with the other communities under “the decline has just begun” does a disservice to a wonderful and historic community with great people. I’ve been there several times visiting from Boston and it’s a really great collection of homes in a park like setting. Very unique. Deserves its own video feature!

[@ChrisHarden]

Hmm.

[@dalepxp8963]

This how callybozo looked at one time too Phil, sorry, but until the democrats are out of office, and out for good, look at every single place in the USA going down, until we finally remove the democrats. It’s just the facts.

[@georgeokello8620]

As a long time resident of St. Louis since 2005, I live in Central West End and Pasadena Hills is just a place meant for old folks that are generally well of that don’t have to worry about future prospects of business expansion and improving schools. Pasadena Hills is a legitimate decline as it’s s place you just cannot legitimately sell as “highly prospective” to middle 30s established high income millennial that wants to permanently settle with family. You have to assess the neighborhood from the prospective of the new generation and there are better alternative places than Pasadena Hills like Ballwin, the west side of Chesterfield, Weldon Springs which have far better school districts and are not even close to high crime rate areas.

[@georgeokello8620]

This is also not mentioning slow down in expanding new long term job ecosystem with improved infrastructure that accommodates middle income ppl as homeless rates are steadily rising. Unless STL commits to a serious infrastructural change with a free high rise out west in chesterfield and Creve Ceour area to address increasing property prices via supply shortages, the decline in most of STL will steadily progress upward.

[@jamie49868]

Nice place for sure. But, where do you shop? What do you drive through to get there? I remember a bunch of GM execs living there, back when the surrounding areas weren't crime ridden cesspools. How long can it hold out? A decade at best.

[@SmokingCats]

Pasadena Hills used to be home to quite a few Cardinal baseball players.

[@sssc1955]

It was a great place to grow up in the 50s and 60s. Moved away in 1972. Last time I went there in 1994, my car was surrounded by some rough looking teenagers. I told them I was scouting g a location for a movie and if they wanted to be in it as extras to leave me their names and numbers. Some actually did. Hahaha

[@jphickory522]

Smart move

[@meredithroman3212]

Smart Move, Brilliant Move!

[@sssc1955]

Yeah. Had to do something. We had moved from California to Indiana for a few years so I had California license plates still. And I always was a bit of an actress. hahaha. I grew up in Northwoods and had the best childhood there. Northwoods was still holding its own in '94 - houses well kept, still charming. I google earthed it a few months ago and am surprised how many houses have burnt to the ground. @@meredithroman3212

[@DonaldMoore-u7w]

Very nice Thank you so much!!

[@rerewiese4470]

I grew up in Wellston, I loved it. Went to Spensmar grade school, and Wellston Jr. High( the old high school). We moved in 1963. Back then it was a great place to grow up!

[@TomMcBoston]

All these tiny cities! The first few cities you showed were quite nice actually.

[@charlieharper4975]

Bad? I expected Detroit, Baltimore or LA. They look like bombed out Zombie land. These 'bad' homes are clean, well manicured and well maintained. The streets are clean as are the cars. There's no graffiti. I only saw one home that was boarded up. Just from the visuals I would live there.

[@nasnas6867]

Shid dont believe the hype he's not going to the hoods. North, west, and South side, i just moved my family to Texas coming from the north after 41yrs we made it out 🙏🏽thank u GOD.

[@joannunemaker6332]

Great video!

[@pamh.5705]

Have you considered doing a piece on the overall number of individually governed cities in St.L.County? I read somewhere, years ago, that the number of cities is quite high. I don't think most people know there are so many! I'm curious as to how the area broke up into so many separate towns!

[@ChrisHarden]

Maybe, that would be a good video topic

[@pamh.5705]

@@ChrisHarden I hoped it was a good suggestion. 😉

[@pamh.5705]

@@drh3b I just did a quick search, from what I found there are 91 municipalities in the county. You were right on it.

[@adammarsden2643]

And it created outta control corruption in em all

[@PeteNice29]

That entire area is to be avoided, unless you want to be carjacked.

[@plausibleg.3170]

The "Decline" has begun in St. Charles and St. Peters as well. Try exposing the etiology of it all as this has already been calculated and documented.

[@33Donner77]

Thanks. Today, Normandy School District is essentially babysitting with two free meals a day. People move out to get to "better" schools, and think they will be accomodated more than others due to historic racism. When they finally reach the Pattonville School District, they discover that Pattonville students represent 57 countries and 42 languages, but some still demand special treatment above the rest of the students. Pattonville is not a magic building with magic students and teachers. It's hard work and achievement. That's what the Normandy School District needs, but if they can't do it, then the Normandy District suburbs will loose population that should move across the U.S. for easy assimilation.

[@kylemuldrow4652]

In addition, the Normandy School District lost its state accreditation several years ago (as did Riverview Gardens). Jennings district is on a provisional accreditation. Wellston had its own school district into the 1990s but finally closed it and it got absorbed into Normandy...which was not an improvement...

[@dylwes]

Having worked at Normandy high school doing repair work I can say that every morning on the loud speaker they speak about victimhood and division. It’s a real shithole.

[@ChrisHarden]

That’s a shame

[@dylwes]

A shame is right. Instead of teaching self reliance. They have white liberals teaching them they are victims and are different from others. I see it as another way to keep these people in the plantation and not grow as a society. If you blame others your whole life you will continue down that path generation after generation. Not to mention that the government incentivizes single parent homes.

[@PerryPerfectPerson]

What are you saying?

[@sully0001]

The population has been in decline, as crime has increased. Grew up in St Louis, UMSL and SLCC Florissant became more and more daunting to attend

[@wolfy33789]

What was the song you played in the video when you went through Northwoods?

[@mgk920]

I don't know when. But the only option that I see for the long-term future is for Saint Louis City and Saint Louis County to be merged into a single municipality

[@jphickory522]

Both the city and county run by political hacks and idiots. It will take an entire change in governance for positive change to occur.

[@PeteNice29]

The county already funds the city in so many ways. But yes, that needs to happen with the seat firmly located in the county. The city has largely proven itself, outside of sports, to be incompetent and decades behind comparable cities.

[@Stephen-mw8ze]

No

[@michaeldavis3430]

In 1875, the city of St. Louis basically said to the county (which wanted to merge together) that it didn't need the county. The city's short sightedness has finally come to fruition, and merging the city and county will not help the city in any way. It will only serve as a massive burden to the infrastructure of the county.

[@johnreitz5676]

Dream on...

[@maggiemonroe7299]

Nice looking homes and lawns tho.

[@AwesomeIsMyMotto]

Interesting video. The use of AAVE at 22:34 and change to a hip hop styled beat really rubbed me the wrong way.

[@302Mustang13]

Thanks much Chris.

[@Pov-Mars]

Can you do Maryland heights next!!

[@ChrisHarden]

Already did

[@jetsons101]

Pasadena Hills, like you said. has some outstanding looking homes. I bet because of their age, a 2x4 is really a 2x4 and not 1.5″ x 3.5″ when they were built. The image at 7:11 could be a postcard. It's time to start voting for people who will work at getting jobs back and putting the voters/taxpayers ahead of themselves. Thanks for posting, have a great day.

[@domcizek]

ITS HARD TO GET JOBS BACK, BUT I BET YOU DID NOT KNOW THAT AMERICAS BIRTH RATE IS GOING DOWN SINCE 1940, AMERICAN WOMEN ARE ONLY HAVING 1.7 BABIES PER WOMEN, THAT IS NOT ENOUGH TO SUSTAIN ANY CULTURE OR ECONOMY, , THIS IS THE PROBEM AROUND THE WORLD, ITALY IS NOW GIVING AWAY HOUSES AND 30 K JUST TO GET PEOPLE TO MOVE THERE AND HAVE CHILDREN, AND IN AMERICA SEVERAL STATES WILL PAY YOUR MOVING EXPENSES IF YOU WILL MOVE TO THEIR STATE TO WORK, IN THE LONG RUN, IT TAKES PEOPLE TO MAKE BUSINESS AND WORK IN THE FACTORIES, THE ONLY SAVIOR WILL BE ALL THE IMMAGRENTS COMING ACCROSS THE BOARDER, TO WORK IN THE FIELDS, AND FACTORIES IN AMERICA, REMEMBER, AMERICA WAS MADE BY IMMAGRENTS AND WILL AGAIN, BE MADE BY IMMAGRENTS

[@thomasschreiber9559]

Square nails?

[@jetsons101]

@@thomasschreiber9559 Some of the really early homes probably do. Good call.

[@robotbuster1487]

Those Pasadena Hills homes are well made, so much so they are a pain to remodel. 20 years ago, as a residential electrician, I was assigned to do a service upgrade on one. Then I had to fish new Romex and MC cable through the lath and plastered walls, and phase out the old Knob & Tube wiring that was the standard in the late 1920s and 30s. About the lumber, it was local oak, and oak after sitting in a wall for 60 years gets hard as a rock. Hard to drill holes for cable to pass through. Its very, very difficult to hammer Thiel staples to fasten the cabling to the studs and joists. People want their 3 wire grounded receptacles for kitchen appliances, computers, bathroom GFI receptacles, etc. but dont like the sticker shock of what the electrical contractor want$ to be paid do the upgrades.

[@jetsons101]

@@robotbuster1487 You sound like a fellow electrician......

[@thomasmckinney9091]

Used to attend church in pine lawn when i was little. Have you ever traveled down goodfellow and rosevelt

[@bluesky5384]

I went to UMSL from 2010-2012. The campus is about the extent of my knowledge of this area. I currently live south of the city in the county. I believe you e already covered my area I grew up in and live in now.

[@missyanndavenport3745]

Beyond Housing, Inc. which is actually in this video, and services this region needs your help in improving these areas with our 24:1 initiatives!

[@edwardmiessner6502]

It's sad that these suburbs are declining and Pasadena Park and Hills are just hanging on, the same for Normandy and Northwoods (decent working class communities), while the rest the decline seems to have accelerated. Why is it that in the Midwest the blight is allowed to spread out into the suburbs instead of being solved in the center city? The more the suburbs fall to blight, the more likely the whole metro area will fail.

[@FayTown82]

Blame America for sending the jobs that helped these areas grow, Over seas to increase profits!

[@prozacgod]

Top it all off with a good ole' heapin' helpin' of horribly over-enforced road ordinances, and speed traps through ALL of these suburbs,... and I don't even like driving through those places feel like I'm constantly on edge waiting for a cop to come bust out my taillight.

[@debofiveklub7804]

Wow Pasadena Hills is nice. It reminds me of parts of U. City..

[@wisecracker1814]

All for the same reason. And it ain't the humidity, folks... Kno'm'sayin..? 👀

[@johnreitz5676]

At one time, the Normandy school district was one of the best in the St. Louis area.

[@ChrisHarden]

I can see that

[@davidhurt1579]

When would that have been?

[@alejandroalvarado0180]

Don't see the decline. The area looks good.

[@whitneymoore9814]

Hello Chris, where is the location of the photo that you used as your thumbnail?

[@Jay-gs5xg]

I wouldn’t in a million years live in any neighborhood in the Normandy school district. The crime in those areas, and near by areas, is way too bad for me. Those areas are turning into real shit holes.

[@1honeychild]

My old stumping grounds.I left in 96 for hazelwood then moved to GA in 2016 never been better. I'll never return to this dilapidated depressed city.

[@gregorycyr9272]

I live in Raleigh NC and was going to move to St Louis back in 1999.I heard it is a strong union area for construction.

[@gregorycyr9272]

@@ChrisSchneiderx How many years you have to work to get a pension?

[@jphickory522]

Unfortunately, the unions support the same Democrat politicians that are responsible for the decline of these areas.

[@LongNguyen-ho9qf]

This area looks really pretty

[@Fly420]

Good one! I lived on Wabada for a short time in 1953. By 1965 gangs had taken over Wellston and the few remaining white folks were persecuted out. It may as well be North St Louis.

[@KevinHudson-q7i]

I grew up in jennings moved there in1965 when i was 5 back then it was a nice place, it had RIVER ROADS MALL, NORTHLAND MALL then the white flight hit, now i live in FLORISSANT watching the white flite again,OH WELL😢

[@bobmackay3414]

There are subdivisions that are larger than these cities.

[@hydroy1]

I was born & raised in St. Louis county in the 50s. In the 70s & 80s Wellston was run by the Black Panthers at gun point. If you were white, you were as good as dead in any part of Wellston or Kinlock, & Robenson and you knew better then to go there. They killed off many of their own population and even up into the early 2000s Wellston was always very dangerous. When NAFTA hit this country in 76 the St. Louis area lost much of it's tax base as industry & the population closed up and left. By the mid 80s it was a ghost town. They still have no industry there and the last time I went up there to visit my parents grave in 2007, I had my own armed guards watching my back side as the gangs are still in charge in St. Louis and well remain so for as long as I live. Bottom line, St. Louis is dead, STAY OUT is the waring.

[@AlexanderWaylon]

Nice work. I wonder where it is that all these people go?

[@ChrisHarden]

If they're staying in the area they're likely just continuing to head west.

[@jKLa]

Some have also headed to Jefferson County to the South but mostly further west and northwest, often leapfroging to St. Charles County or out to exurbia.

[@CAROLDDISCOVER-1983]

Interesting how we've let the blight of the city just keep expanding out. Now that can be said about Saint Louis Detroit Kansas City and a whole host of other cities. Just not concern as a whole was what's going on until it comes up and bites us. Eventually it does because the blight continues to expand outward. Ironically had chance to go to UMSL. Basically live free. It was little bit far away from home but your relatives nearby at the time. One of them had passed on and I was fond of them and they were fond of me. Freehouse and property and it was little bit farther out but I could pretend I'm so been in district and everything else. But how good of a spill do you think I'm so really was? We can let other people answer that. But I went to a better school far away. They had left her home to me with one stipulation that I live in it for five years. Otherwise it was to be sold and the proceeds go to there more immediate relatives. Well they got the money 💰. There's not a lot to be said good about St Louis Kansas City Springfield Missouri. Crime and blight. Pretty much takes care of the major cities in Missouri except for maybe Columbia. I don't know a lot about it.

[@weepair2]

Some good, some bad. Would I like to live there? Not a chance!

[@adammarsden2643]

Back in the day every city mentioned in this video held in kinlock jail if you had to go to jail before county took over

[@RebeccaBaker-og9yd]

Pasadena hills has beautiful homes. Flooding bad?😢😮😅😊

[@chicagonorthcoast]

Normandy was a slum by 1980. Pasadena Hills was still beautiful, but the rest here, like Wellston, were the pits in the 1970s. All the north suburbs of that city were very deteriorated and dropping in value rapidly ere I left St Louis in 1987.

[@annstillwell730]

I drove through pinelawn not too long ago and drove the other way. Not looking goo at all.

[@alona724]

This is depressing. 😢

[@louislamonte334]

Hopefully like the dying shopping malls they fostered suburbia is on a steep decline. Suburbia is unsustainable, completely auto and truck centered and dependent and a very poor use of land. Like shopping malls I have no sympathy for suburbia!

[@Henry_Jones]

Bring back the old hood music!

[@soco13466]

Lots of brick homes. If the New Madrid fault lets go, they're rubble. I once drove west od St Louis. I noticed upthrusts or whatever they call them. The land looks torn in places.

[@davidhurt1579]

There ought to be a law against naming a public structure (school, highway) after a present day politician.

[@christianvidal1088]

Sad to see the US has given up on whole regions

[@Denrite007]

White flighters will find this video a convenient reference. Fat cats passed their country club off on the state of Missouri. That was the transaction by wealthy people to abandon north county in favor of west county.

[@matthewjones7935]

I miss Pasadena hills. The insides of the homes are amazing. Dated a woman from there, lost her to suicide. 😢

[@XRP-Mill]

Hate to be truthful.. Its white flight.. everyone went to st Charles and west.. And its happening again...

[@colddeadhands5167]

There's a common denominator with all these communities' downfall

[@313-v9k]

America seems to be in serious decline. They are lowering standards for all occupations to accommodate the decline.

[@susansturch7591]

Yes; globalist planning.

[@DanaBrady-h9m]

Shooting straight oops maybe poor choice of word 100 percent agree

[@jkonstantine]

What all these videos have in common? They do not address the underlying issues , they just pick and choose what to talk about or blame. PBS gets it right.

[@bondpit8750]

Normandy still looks like it is a decent enough area on the video. Let me guess, the majority population remaining is a certain minority that those who have moved away, don’t want to be around. I wonder why that is?

[@jasoncarr5379]

That's for sure!

[@MrDEWaters]

It is known as "white flight"--and yes, it is the result of racism. It occurs in all American cities. Once a suburb's population becomes mostly Black, the white people usually take off for suburs elsewhere. Some suburbs maintain integrated neighborhoods, but it is an exception to the rule. Should all neighborhoods be integrated, or is it OK to have Black neighborhoods that are separate from White neighborhoods? There are many questions regarding urban geography.

[@302Mustang13]

​@@MrDEWatersIs it really racism or is it fair to say a sharp rise in crime is why people flee? I can't imagine why anyone would be happy with violence and crime.

[@MrDEWaters]

@@302Mustang13 That's a good point. Maybe the crime rate has to do with proximity to seriously-depressed areas in North St. Louis.

[@302Mustang13]

​@@MrDEWatersIt's truly sad and there's plenty of evidence that racism in the past has caused much of these issues with housing and neighborhoods. To me and likely most people nowadays, race has nothing to do with people fleeing. Personally, I want a safe neighborhood and good schools and that is what would cause me to leave.

[@rosalindalay4499]

Sad. Needs lots of help..

[@kingbradentucky]

Almost all suburbs will decline. Damn near every one of them is fiscally unsustainable and do not even bring on enough revenue for basic infrastructure maintenance. It is the ugly secret no one wants to admit b/c so many folks love living in suburbia.

[@ChrisHarden]

Not sure if I agree with that. If the money stays in the suburbs then the suburbs will last and be fiscally stable. If the money leaves and goes back into the city or further out into the country to create new suburbs, than the original suburbs won't last. However, despite what you saw in this video, there are still many older suburbs that are still full of wealth and are doing just fine.

[@Tampa0123456789]

Suburbs are a slick ponzi scheme. In Florida every Suburbs has a life span because in Florida we never stop building ever. So there is always a newer fancier Suburbs. I live in the fancier part of town but iam an hour from downtown. I have lived long enough to know that in few years there will be yet another new hot area constructed 😂😂😂.

[@perfectallycromulent]

that's not how suburbs work in the northeast. we have suburbs older than the USA itself here in the boston area that have been pretty nice places to live for that whole time. you will find the same in NY, NJ, PA etc.

[@brianmiller5444]

@@perfectallycromulentWell if you look at property tax rates e’s in Massachusetts…. the mill rate in affluent Newton was 5 times the rate in California!!!

[@perfectallycromulent]

@@brianmiller5444 so what? who cares what newton's property tax is, what does that have to do with anything? why didn't you tell me about somerville or salem instead? their tax rates seem equally irrelevant.

[@mbatchelor]

There are some beautiful homes in that area, it fell victim to the segregation of the St Louis area. All of those suburbs are 90%+ African American. Schools there lost their accreditation a few years ago, a lot of those little towns have had corruption for years. I really don't know of any other metro area in the country as segregated as St Louis; of course there are African Americans and other minorities across the area, but the poor ones seem to be mostly lumped into North StL City and North StL County - especially the far north parts bordering the City of StL.

[@ChrisHarden]

I used to think that Detroit was the most segregated region in the country, but after going through St. Louis and learning about the area I don’t think that anymore.

[@ninaelle2003]

​@@ChrisHardenthe delmar divide is an excellent example of how segregated st Louis is.

[@jeffreyplank8178]

Why does no one want to admit the obvious that the demographic change occurred after the closing of the projects in the late 60s and the moved all section 8 houses to north county

[@jeffreyplank8178]

By demographic I mean north city black people moved in

[@garydean0308]

Yeah, you don't hang around on Goodfellow.

[@landhorses]

“Mean Streetz” is better than “Evil Streets.”

[@ChrisHarden]

Haha you think? I think I like both equally.

[@DonaldMoore-u7w]

I did'nt want to complain but maybe the music could not be so ominous

[@theycallmemr.bigchest3203]

Nothing is basically in STL limits you silly goose.

[@benmcreynolds8581]

It baffles me. Even tho Society is struggling, We are yet to even attempt to implement: "The concept around: The better off the lowest income living people are doing; The better the entire rest of our countries economy could be doing." -Think of it like a ecosystem in nature. The least important little things might seem meaningless and insignificant yet, if they crumbled away, the entire ecosystem would crumble. The last things remaining would be the top diverse predators that eat everything else.. until they eat each other.. leaving just a few top sharks in the ecosystem.. the whales would all be gone once the plankton crumble away, the sharks would eat the whales. Then once all that's left is sharks, the sharks would eat the sharks. *(Think of this but as a analogy for our economy and our modern day society..) If we instead decided to support the lowest people in the ecosystem, there would be a beneficial systematic dispersion towards other aspects of society benefiting. All because the lowest people would be flourishing. I say flourish but I really just mean, able to obtain the most basic essential living standards... Yet even that would Vastly improve our current state of our economy & society *Also imagine this analogy in our economy. The more help we invest in the lowest level people, the more it would trickle into every facet of our economy. If poor people can pay their rent & not go homeless: landlords would get $, businesses would get $, banks would get $, local small shops would get $, mortgages & bills could be paid, insurance companies would get $, Taxes would get $, So essentially that $ would go out & filter right back in to improve our Country while simultaneously improving our quality of Life. Every bit of the economy would somehow find a way to benefit off of this situation... I don't get why we haven't even Given it a chance?? If it doesn't help? Then by all means stop it and figure out what problems we could be facing might be one's that run way deeper than expected and that would take drastic changes to improve that situation... (I hope we TRY something soon, before things get any more unstable. The worst thing we could do is continue on doing exactly what we are currently doing. It might get to a point where overcoming our struggles could simply become a pipedream. I don't want it to get to that)

[@ChrisHarden]

I agree that if poor people could move up in life that our economy would be that much better. What people disagree on in this country (and a huge reason as to why our country is so divided) is how exactly we should go about solving that problem. It’s an extremely hard problem to solve.

[@Steve-q6l4v]

It starts with speaking English and getting a job.

[@frankjoseph4273]

St Louis is in the middle of the country on a greatest river, what happened ?

[@katydid2877]

What happened to any large city in the country?

[@ChrisHarden]

De-industrialization

[@gregb6469]

@@ChrisHarden -- Caused in no small part by unions asking for too much, and compelling corporations to move overseas to stay in business.

[@Tampa0123456789]

​@@ChrisHardenThank you. This is what all the commenters usually miss because they don't understand or even know history. Ironically it will be spreading nationwide soo.😂

[@Tampa0123456789]

​@@gregb6469Union's died off ages ago 😂. Stop using that tired excuse.

[@discordmarauder]

You skipped over some of the prettiest houses in Pasadena hills

[@TrilithiumBanditKelsey]

I dunno... I think we as Americans are going to have to learn to live with this; all the new Up & Coming developments will price most of us out. They say there's a housing shortage, 'Inventory is low', yada, yada, yada. There's no housing shortage... they're all over the place! What there is a shortage of is Vision. These towns die because of the hurney-hurney and derpity-derp, on their hands and knees, offering a tax-free pass for that Amazon warehouse.

[@erikriza7165]

annoying music. but i liked the tour of houses, it was interesting

[@asmartrock9776]

Check out East St. Louis. East of the river lol

[@jaylewis5035]

15:42 The name of this school says it all.

[@agy234]

Is it also located on mlk blvd?

[@susansturch7591]

Globalist planned.

[@danielmorse4213]

I see lots of empty store fronts

[@dalepxp8963]

With those crime rates, wow. I see another callibozo coming on. The one guy that backed his car out in front of the video? By the barry obozo school. They acted like a criminal there didn’t they? I mean you can see how a police officer would follow them around, call in the plates, so on.

[@littlebull4366]

What??

[@brianmiller5444]

@@drh3bhe’s just copying the verbal pattern of his descending-into-dementia Lord and Savior, Donald “Pervert” Trump

[@gregb6469]

Your response to violent crime is to drink shakes, work out, and take boxing lessons? Are you joking? How about buying a gun, seeing as anyone breaking in is likely to be packing. What good is a nice left jab when the perp is ten feet away from you and holding a pistol?

[@ChrisHarden]

Yes. Fight like a man, Greg.

[@gregb6469]

@@ChrisHarden -- You bring your fists to a gunfight, and all you will end up doing is occupying a slab at the morgue.

[@ChrisHarden]

@@gregb6469 Woah, Greg! Calm down! Things got real too quick. Are you serious? I'm not serious... are you seriously serious right now? Because I'm not serious at all.

[@gregb6469]

@@ChrisHarden -- Violent crime is nothing to joke about. Too many lives had been ruined, if not ended, by it. Violence by the criminal element is the main reason the population of St Louis and its suburbs like the ones you showed us in the video has gone down so much in recent years. White flight could more accurately be described as law-abiding, peace-loving flight.

[@TheOldTapeArchive]

@@gregb6469 I'd drink shakes, work out, take boxing lessons AND be armed. Not to mention voting against that low IQ embarrassment Cori Bush.

[@hermanmunster4949]

"Welcome to the jungle It get's worse here everyday Ya learn to live like an animal In the jungle where we play If you got a hunger for what you see You'll take it eventually You can have anything you want But you better not take it from me"

[@AustriaGermany]

st louis is a dumpster

[@bokcmeatyvstheworld8273]

Glad im not the only one who can see this city dying

[@His_Name_Was_King]

Get in line...its all over the country.

[@Tampa0123456789]

Coming to an American city near you. Just wait till they get the A.I. thingy perfect People just don't study history.

[@Julie-pb9iz]

The big problem with St Louis area is racism. People think they can solve the race problem by moving, mostly West to St Charles Co. Guess what will happen? Somehow, the area needs to start a policy group to address this racism. St. Louis Metro would be so much more inclusive. Good Luck to the home of the Dred Scott decision.

[@FullExposureStudiosStL]

I love these videos. They are made by ray cysts and for ray cysts. Notice how nothing bad happens to them in these horrible areas. It's just them driving around. Think of how big of a push see you'd have to be to be afraid of anything you saw in this boring video.....

One word sums it all up.... "Demographics"

[@jasoncarr5379]

It's crazy how many suburbs are over there🤡