St. Louis's Wells-Goodfellow Neighborhood Is A Disaster

[@ChrisHarden]

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[@filmaker256]

st louis is like philledelphia ... the worst!

[@kevinvaughan5671]

Why can I not leave comments on your video????

[@jetsons101]

Two major problems with America today: 1. Politicians that put personal gain before the people they represent/serve. 2. Made in china. Don't offshore everything we use/need.

[@F4URGranted]

The CHIPS act should help a bit. New factories in Ohio Arizona and Texas.. not to st Louis

[@hydroy1]

@@F4URGranted Don't plan on it, the pay scales are not equal to the cost of living. People can't continue to afford to keep going in the hole each week/ month/ year until the company's pay scales = the cost of living TODAY !. And that still has not happened in United States Industry.

[@matthewhaine1322]

I used to live in St. Louis a while back. It is a shame to see such a beautiful city with such potential destroyed from within.

[@ChrisHarden]

The potential for a special city is definitely there

[@grantunderhill8098]

I'm from STL and have been all over the city for my work. I've seen the good the bad and the ugly. Your videos are well made and thought out. I'd love to see one where you go through a neighborhood that's lively, growing, or otherwise thriving next!

[@PatrickZiggy]

That's not in his purview.

[@bullnukeoldman3794]

In the late '70s I worked at Central Medical Center (formerly Faith Hospital) over on Kingshighway Blvd, just off the eastern edge of Wells-Goodfellow. Seeing this brings back some memories for me especially the street names. It was a tough area even 50 years ago. I knew many nice folks that lived around there.

[@charleykeenan6171]

Seeing the stats creates a real picture of how bad the situation is here (and other places like it). Sad, just sad.. It is good that you are shining a light on it though Chris.. Great episode as always 👏

[@AlanNakisher]

I lived in this neighborhood until 1957 when I was 9 years old. My father owned a gas station on Goodfellow and Roosevelt. I have lived out of St. Louis for over 50 years. It is so sad to see what has happened to my old neighborhood. This is what happens when jobs disappear. Next time you buy something made in China, remember the city of St. Louis.

[@tylerkimdura6690]

Yep :/

[@hydroy1]

BUY ANYTHING? who can afford to buy anything at all, I am just trying to keep some food in front of me.

[@thejadog1741]

Aw,nice try. You know it wasn't because of jobs They left be cause it became a corrupt Democrat city

[@TakenTook]

Thank you for posting videos from cities and towns outside of Michigan. So many people around the country mistakenly assume that Detroit is unique in having a shrinking population, high rates of poverty, many abandoned houses and businesses, and concerning crime rates. They unfairly blame the people of Detroit for what has happened to the city. But videos like this show that any previously thriving city that loses employment opportunities because of changes in various manufacturing industries can have the same problems as Detroit

[@nichelleh]

It's sad that America is a money game and not a people plan. Being from the Midwest this hurts😢❤

[@shelbyz1974]

It's truely sad how America doesn't manufacture as much as it used to. That job loss killed alot of major cities and towns specifically throughout the east and midwest.

[@billdang3953]

Didn't Ford also used to have an assembly plant in St. Louis?

[@shelbyz1974]

@@billdang3953 in Hazelwood from 1948-2006

[@Tenebarum]

It's truly sad that the US is ignoring its housing crisis and sending our hard earned taxes everywhere in the world. Corporations are buying up family housing and putting it back as "luxury" rental housing. Builders are putting up their own version of "luxury" housing. People can't buy homes and have families anymore. Meanwhile, places like this with so much potential are left to rot. The middle class has been gutted.

[@CJColvin]

​@shelbyzambrano They also had the Chrysler truck plant in Fenton Missouri till about 2009.

[@302Mustang13]

It's difficult to pinpoint the actual cause. I am of the belief that efforts to improve air quality and pollution added high costs that made overseas attractive considering many factories were old and modernizing them would be costly. There's much more though than that.

[@stephenrichie4646]

Born and reared in this city: my childhood in the 1940s, my teen years in the 1950s. I still have affection for the city I grew up in. Alas, it no longer exists.

[@michaelchappell902]

II remember while living in Normandy, Mo. driving around this area in the late 1970's and showing people where old Sportsmen Park use to stand. A place where I went to many Cardinals games growing up both Baseball and Football Cardinals. Also was a guick way to get to Forest Park, The Zoo, the Opry, The Checker Dome. and the Botanical Gardens.

[@hydroy1]

I was there from 1955 to 1980 and remember all that to. But today, IT"S ALL GONE replaced by very young gangsters with 40mm pistols carjacking folks. I can't even go to my family graves up there anymore, just flat out to dangerous. Why do you think it's always rated in the top ten most dangerous cities in America today & has been for decades.

[@michaelchappell902]

@@hydroy1 That is to bad. When you can't even visit the graves of loved ones.

[@shawnlin9873]

Been through this part of the town numerous time driving people to the airport. Never quite knew the history behind it. Thanks for the informative video! It's surprising how things deteriorate so much as you move north bound from CWE

[@jetsons101]

Just got home from work and what was waiting JUST for me on the computer, why a new Chris Harden video....

[@markprad]

I was in St. Louis two months ago for a long weekend. I felt very safe in the south and west sides of the city. We stayed in the Grove Neighborhood. Very walkable.

[@optomix3988]

St. Louis used to also have a large fashion district and was one of the largest shoe makers. They used to also be one of largest coffee roaster and distribution hubs in the world. Those days a long gone. My grandparents used to live in North St. Louis and would tell stories about how they didn't lock their doors ever. Those were they days. I live about 25mins away from down town across "the bridge" if you are from the area you know where that is located. My family moved out here when the properties were cheap and the old neighborhood was falling apart.

[@YeahNah100]

I recently came to the St. Louis area to take care of my Grandmother and I already feel some love for this city. The people I have encountered are good and there is a lot of beauty here. I might stay! I promise to contribute goodness to the place. ✌️

[@hydroy1]

Last time I passed through to see family graves in 20013, I was ducking gunshots, LOTS of gunshots in DAYLIGHT hours! very close to. Hanley & the Rock road. There's a good reason St. louis is ranked in the top 10 most dangerous city's, it IS ! Your a fool to be there without personal protection.

[@mdmarko]

Even with the sun shining brightly, this place looks dark and grim.

[@dirkwyse1609]

I think your content is among the best on KZbin, much appreciate your work. Thank you.

[@chrisburton8222]

You rode pass my family’s houses and store on the corner of Belt and Maffitt. Also unfortunately my dad was killed at the Belt Loop liquor store on Belt and St. Louis Ave way back in 1979…. This video took me back thank you!!!

[@ChrisHarden]

Sucks that you lost your dad that way at what I’m assuming was an early age for you.

[@chrisburton8222]

Yes I was only 3….Thank you for responding!!!

[@AndreRobinson1]

I grew up in that neighborhood, Whose your dad

[@ronl2463]

Truck production moved to Fort Wayne Ind, Chevy passenger cars were built in St Louis, Wentzville started out building Buick and Oldsmobile.

[@craignovy2090]

Excellent and shocking video and narration!!! Have to see AND hear this to believe it. I kept saying to myself 'I had no idea.' You are a real treasure Chris. Stay safe!

[@joannunemaker6332]

Great video! Sad place.😢❤

[@billdang3953]

To think that it was in St Louis that Miles Davis was discovered by Dizzy Gillespie and Charlie Parker, who took him to New York and the rest is history.

[@Tenebarum]

It's a beautiful place. It's a disgrace that we rebuild other countries and have this in our midst.

[@AlexanderWaylon]

I have a couple comments I’d like to add to this interesting video. The reason behind the GM truck plant closure was probably most likely due to the redesigned 100% new 1988 trucks that began being assembled in April 1987. They are what modern GM trucks are based upon. Prior to that, according to a documentary the 87 GM truck was largely 30 year old technology and loosing to Ford. I once had a 68 GMC built in St Louis. ALSO, these hood areas of St. Louis do represent a quality of life difference between Detroit and St Louis in their prime. You just don’t see the same quality of housing by design. A lot of flat roofs, 4 family flats in this video, and what single houses are shown appear small with virtually no lot to speak of.

[@ChrisHarden]

Good points. Didn’t know that about the GM trucks, but it makes sense that they would build a new facility with newer technology rather than remodel an older one as that’s what the Big 3 often did during those days. I also don’t recall hearing about St. Louis being one of the wealthiest places in the country during the good old days, while I often hear that being said about both Flint and Detroit. I do like the architecture of St. Louis’s older buildings though. They’re unique and you don’t see it in many other places, especially in the Midwest.

[@jmfbizzle]

​@@ChrisHarden St. Louis had more Company headquarters than any other city in the country and by that I don't mean per capita. Annheiser Bush, TWA, Edward Jones, Monsanto, Ralston Purina, Energizer, Rawlings, Nestlé, Venture, Brown Shoes, Spectrum Corp, Emerson Electric, etc. etc. etc. The demise of STL was when TWA shut down. That really hurt the city. Then one bad decision after another ruined the city. Going to bed.

[@Jay-gs5xg]

@@ChrisHardenI can confirm that retooling was the reason for the shutdown of the gm plant. I happen to be sitting in the former gm plant right now. I’ve been around this building since it was purchased from gm in 1989 and I’m very familiar with the property.

[@PaulHFleming]

I remember living in Goodfellow Martin Luther King neighborhood as kid in 1970s. I spent last year Williams Elementary School (1973) after my father/Grandma brought a house in Pagedale. The area was already sharp decline back then. Now my old street Belle Glade circle is ghost village. The major reason for decline was closing (by the city) of Homer G Philips Hospital which employeed hundreds local residents

[@ursonate]

Some of my earliest memories are in this neighborhood. My paternal grandparents owned a 2 family house on Goodfellow and we lived upstairs for a few years before we moved to U. City. The building is a vacant lot now. There's decline because there's crime and there's crime because there's decline. If Missouri politics weren't so...😳 I'd consider making some investments there.

[@markvogel5872]

The gutting of our manufacturing industry is one of the biggest crimes ever committed in this country.

[@michaelcreighton5116]

You forgot about DA who convicts victims and let's criminals out.

[@AndreRobinson1]

I wasa born 1959 in St LOUIS CITY AND REMEMBER ALOT OF WHAT IT USE TO BE. NOTHING LIKE THIS

[@DeltaLou]

It's a shame cause St Louis is an amazing town. I lived there 11 years. 7 of them were in Downtown and I had to leave cause it got so dangerous. Washington Ave used to be a sexy place to be but now it's a ghost town. Lot of their alderman, even the president of the alderman were arrested. Their government is not the best either. Too much focus on Clayton and not enough focus for Downtown. I still love the culture and distinct neighborhoods. Breaks my heart! Had great memories.

[@rcstl8815]

The city rejected the county in the 1800s. The county has no reason to care about the city. We are constantly fighting attempts the rejoin because of muh reasons. We do not want the city's problems. Interesting fact, the city had 28 Alderman positions when it was at its population peak and now that it is less that half, they still have 28 Aldercritters. But they can't afford to plow neighborhood streets when it snows.

[@budm9982]

So sad. So many of those houses are beautiful structures yet we have a large population of homeless people.

[@Henry_Jones]

If you wanna know what it was like working in a big 3 plant back in the "good ol days" read A Savage Factory by Robert Dewar. The gold ol days wernt that good.

[@dirkwyse1609]

The two New Orleans-style shotgun shacks at 10:15 - those must be some of the oldest buildings in this hood. Also amidst the ruins, some nice old brick houses that are still occupied. Do homeless people squat in any of the abandoned buildings or do they also move out?

[@SanFelipeCreek]

St Louis is more like 90% and 10% I am native St Louis boy now a man. I won't live in the city ever again even if a house in the Lafayette Square was under 50 thousand dollars. I moved back here to Creve Coeur I don't know how long I am staying home this time. I always move away but I always return home. Dexter Lombardo out 🤠 Thank you for the video . Is that zip code 63120 in North STL ?

[@omnivector45]

It's a black generational welfare state thing, that we all understand. End the generational welfare state.

[@freddiejones2795]

I feel like there are some similarities between the declining cities, but I can't name it.

[@dovobis]

ikr? Can't put my finger on it either.

[@frankwoods4532]

I've seen better, but I've also seen worse. Thanks for sharing.

[@williammcmillan5833]

Wells Goodfellow used to be home to The Horseshoe which was off Hebert & Clara which is gone now and the only thing that stands there is a church but back in the 90's you didn't wanna go down there it was one way in and one way out even the police were scared to come down there and it was the home of The Horseshoe Posse who had beef with the B.O.D's back when gang violence was a all time high if you go on Google maps you can still see remains of it.

[@LovingSassy]

So sad to see this. I remember a time when home was a beautiful place. My honest opinion the crack era played a major part of the dilapidation of the city as well.

[@Powertuber1000]

We all know the real reason our cities are the way they are today, but we’re not allowed to say out loud.

[@Henry_Jones]

Not Just Bikes should do a cross promo with you.

[@ChrisHarden]

That would be interesting

[@rsnankivell1962]

7:41 Good sample. Bulldoze & build new houses. As I see it, that's the only thing feasible there, right now.

[@antonfarquar8799]

It would be interesting to know what the total KWH output is today as opposed to say 1960.

[@antonfarquar8799]

@@paradoxstudios6639 you got me - what does GPA, within this discussion , stand for?

[@geraldmckillip5594]

Nasty City , WOW , it's has become a wasted suburbs of a hole in the ground !!!

[@vietinternational5746]

Nice to see a video about north St. Louis where the comments aren’t all racist

[@cosmictraveler1146]

Ikr geez they’re like flies.

[@paradoxstudios6639]

Isn't it wonderful they rename almost every main street with the same "name" as they do in many other crime infested cities ?, talk about progress, I guess what many people are noticing is that they're getting tired of high crime in certain zones with that same old street name, nobody use to put up with crime, trash, dereliction, extreme poverty, and yes we have all the educational institutes available at our disposal that make it possible to be educated and progress in life, but fewer and fewer results.

[@Powertuber1000]

Why are you afraid of the truth?

[@Powertuber1000]

You don’t understand how it works after 2017 on KZbin… all truth comments are blocked, if KZbin was a free speech platform the things we would say, would curl your eyebrows.

[@rcstl8815]

An example of the city's wasteful spending is all the rollaway trash cans behind vacant lots. This may be one of the reasons they won't plow neighborhood streets when it snows. They "can't afford" it. Look up the controlling party of the city.

[@TheMad31683]

Might look like shit but this was and is home for alot of people.

[@hydroy1]

Born & raised in St. Louis. Went to a trade school & got a Journeyman Machinist book in 1977 AFL/CIO local 31 trying hard to make gains for my future in making good money. Then between 1977 & 1980 St. Louis industry totally collapsed. This after almost a 20 year decline in industry for the area. The black panthers came into Wellson and wiped it completely out & Kinlock was totally out of control.. From that point on, the death warrant for St. Louis was sealed. I got out in 1980 to South Florida working for the U.S. Navy boat yard. Truth be told, today I am scared to even go back to visit my family's graves. Yes it really has become THAT BAD and it's not going to get any better for the rest of my life. The future for that city & county is not good at all. As for going back there, you really ARE taking your life in your own hands. Them folks up there now are flat out gun wheeling blood thirsty gangsters. Stay OUT.

[@AcuraLvR82]

A while back there was a dude who was murdered for his car and his body dumped on the side of the road. Perp lured him in by responding to his Craigslist ad of it for sale. Did it on his lunch break too.

[@jamescabral3108]

St.Louis's issues are its Politics, Corruption, and Crime, that's what brings down the City. Add the City's Histroy with Race, Unions that holds Companies Hostage and forces them Overseas, doesn't help matters. In Addition to that TWA screwed over their Airport by taking it over as a Major Hub just prior to them going bankrupt. When I flew into it in 2022 for a St.Louis Blues Game & I was in town to see if I wanted to join the St.Louis County Police Department, I couldn't get over how much of a Ghost Town that Airport was. Flying in from Boston, MA, there were only about 12 People on a 40 Passenger Flight, and when I entered the Airport Terminal, excluding the Southwest Airlines section, there was no one there. After American Airlines bought out TWA in the 90's, they have done nothing to invest in that Airport, and it has paid the price for it. After going Downtown for a Blues Game, I couldn't get over how many of the locals fled Downtown after 5PM. The moment they are done with their 9-5 Jobs and any events being held in downtown they are long gone. After driving around Downtown & even the nice Townships of Kirkwood & Ballwin, I couldn't get over how poorly maintained the roads are around the area. After my drive around St.Louis, I decided against the Job. Greatful that I did!

[@Henry_Jones]

I think chrysler also had a plant in ST.Louis that built minivans.

[@ChrisHarden]

I know of one that was in Fenton until recently. Wouldn’t surprise me if there was an assembly plant in the city at one point.

[@exvan3571]

IIRC, they were kicking around the idea of a football stadium on that site before the Rams yeeted.

[@ronl2463]

Ford had one in Hazelwood Mo, which was a North St Louis suburb.

[@TrilithiumBanditKelsey]

Thanks for the video; I don't remember anything about St. Louis... even going to the Arch... I was so little, back in... '77... I think. I don't think it was nearly as decrepit as now, or we wouldn't have went there. I've seen videos of East St. Louis which were even more... morbid. There's was a documentary done called the Pruitt-Igoe Myth, about a huge housing project built there, which was very well done. What occurred there, and the end result, pretty much sums-up the entire administration of SL and ESL, and what was to come. White-flight, a racially, red-line, marginalized demographic of poverty, and the emigration of manufacturing compounded the city's demise. And we're talking about some manufacturing moving from SL... to Bowling Green... not China, not Mexico... Bowling Green, KY, which indicates that the city itself has long been managed poorly and corrupt. We are our own worst enemy.

[@KingDavid314]

Only a few good paying jobs in the city. Most have to drive out to St Louis county to get work. The city is filled with good people but the lack of opportunities is devastating. Also crime is an issue but politicians want to gentrify the north/west side of town. That's why their not doing anything about it.

[@RevivalPortland]

Thanks for the creepy music, I used to live in St Louis in the 70s. Yuk

[@katebrown-schuh1278]

There is severe contamination in Wellston, current elected officials refuse to address!!!!

[@StephenS-r7q]

Why is Dr. Martin Luther King Blvd in the worst area in each city?

[@ClayCodrey-pj7bv]

The whole state is bad buddy, but rural Missouri has a southern charm

[@kraigtaylor8777]

I was born in Florissant which I believe was up Natural Bridge from there

[@ChrisHarden]

Natural bridge heads towards Florissant initially but then Florissant Rd branches off of Natural Bridge and heads towards Florissant. Did you see my Wednesday upload? It was on Florissant.

[@1poloharris]

My old Neighborhood✊🏾

[@RebeccaBaker-og9yd]

I' ve seen much worse in some other videos and even in Greenville TX. But i' v seen so n e bettertoo.good luck.

[@lstradamus]

The building at 3:29 is the old JC Penney CO building

[@jmfbizzle]

You're not making these neighborhoods look nearly as bad as they are. You're also not going off the main drags. I can show you where every house is condemned, crack houses, squatters, etc. Really run down areas. You're not really showing the bad parts. All of it is unsafe.

[@kellymidgyett8642]

Yeah the neighborhood does look rough but there are some good hard working people that live in wells goodfellow and other "dangerous" neighborhoods around St Louis. I live here so i know

[@kellymidgyett8642]

The media tries to make St Louis sound like what its not..there are nice people around here

[@CJColvin]

I'm surprised that the city of St.Louis hasn't gone fully extinct yet.

[@paradoxstudios6639]

No they packed up and moved to Chicago, next city of moral decay.

[@woxyroxme]

This area does not really look that bad, streets are in good condition and few pot holes and hardly any litter. A lot of big cities that have bad areas have garbage in the street and discarded tires and appliances.

[@paradoxstudios6639]

appears to me many have already abandoned it, which may still be a little derelict but without trash donations and crime, traffic.

[@nofortunatesonII]

@@ChrisSchneiderx I remember 35 years ago south city was a decent area. Things have changed for the worse since then.

[@Speakfacts270]

Trust me it’s the worst in the country wells goodfellow if u stay over there for one week u will see why I said that

[@showmestatefinest5412]

I can tell u never lived in the hood and only see the hood in movies

[@dshooter6391]

Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society programs help destroy a lot of these cities.

[@jameslong5139]

CORI BUSH is your rep....what has she done to clean up STL and HER people ?

[@howardcitizen2471]

I prefer your earlier arrangement of "hood music".

[@danielsentertainmentproduc1527]

Walnut park west and east?

[@ChrisHarden]

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[@The_Humble_Servant]

It was due to the government supplying drugs and guns to the community. This is where I was raised. I seen the thriving and the dying of this area. I know what happened here and what is still happening.

[@RebeccaBaker-og9yd]

What does st. Louisiana live on there? Ssi.if that? Wish st. Louis could cou l d recover. A beautiful city going downhill.😮😅😊

[@K00LKIDSKLUB]

Now my bum bum is tingly

[@RebeccaBaker-og9yd]

Streets look lonely. Saying do something with us a n d whatever!!!😮😅😅

[@midwestgrammar2941]

The Westside

[@RebeccaBaker-og9yd]

Any ides? Lmlike garage collection, carpentry, etc. It would help. And get tge demorats out!

[@jimratcliff861]

Isn't integration a great thing ??? 😮😮😢😢

[@jamesrobert4106]

No. They ruin everything. England is getting as bad.

[@jmfbizzle]

Welston was bad 40 years ago. That's nothing new. Almost all of north city & north county is really bad & unsafe. Industry & segregation? Dude, you need to get out of the car & meet some of the locals. The industrialized areas do well.

[@AustriaGermany]

st lucifer has always a place to detour

[@medebarr]

Democrats. Duh.

[@eddiecook2670]

Welston not Wells

[@ChrisHarden]

Wells-Goodfellow not Welston and not Wells.

[@RebeccaBaker-og9yd]

There is a Walston. And and a wells.

[@Denrite007]

St Louis has suffered the brutality of white flight, and the resulting segregation. On top of the general refusal to help freed slaves, St Louisans have moved out of the St Louis to the suburbs west county locations with the deliberate intention of escaping contact with black culture. Not good for the urban economy. We can act like we have not had a hand in this but as a slave state and thriving slave market St Louis racial problems were unavoidable.

[@jltb5283]

In a word Democrat's. You could have saved yourself the trouble of this long video. It's just Democrat's.

[@larryjohnson572]

You voted for it remember vote Democrat

[@duanelynch3730]

I was born and raised in the city of St. Louis. This situation is a result of overtly white racist policies by the Missouri legislature and white business community! 🤔🦾😡😤

[@jamesrobert4106]

Will it still be the fault of white people in another 50 years?

[@DannyisasuckaHisdadisapunk]

Sooooooo white racist police’s made a lot of white people leave and that made all the urbanities start with the high crime and murder spree? Lol makes a lot of sense Leroy.