Chris Harris on Cars | BMW F80 M3 - Full Road & Track Test

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Chris Harris on Cars

Chris Harris on Cars

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@otengdebrah741
@otengdebrah741 4 жыл бұрын
2020 and this car is still one of the best looking Ms of all time. Immortalized masterpiece
@tractioncontroldelete
@tractioncontroldelete 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this November 2020 - still true 🤟
@marcellukacic5221
@marcellukacic5221 3 жыл бұрын
It's the best-looking M3 ever made IMO. It's also the most criminally underrated M car ever. Yes, the very first models were very spiky on a damp road, but the Competition and especially the CS version made it so much more tied down, and frankly, better. It's a better all-around car than the E90 M3 IMO, and the M4 GTS... One of the best M cars in a decade.
@rohanalias9053
@rohanalias9053 3 жыл бұрын
Triggered e46 and e90 fanboys want to know your location
@rebeltvr6046
@rebeltvr6046 3 жыл бұрын
Meh, it's kinda boring to drive..
@rohanalias9053
@rohanalias9053 3 жыл бұрын
@@rebeltvr6046 it was about the looks .no one asked about the driving feel
@derbigpr500
@derbigpr500 9 жыл бұрын
A man who can really drive properly, and who has driven pretty much every car worth driving loves the car and enjoys it...but internet race drivers (most of them without a drivers licence of course) call it bad and point out all kinds of negatives about it (without ever coming close to the actual car of course)...how hilarious.
@wadesloan
@wadesloan 9 жыл бұрын
fuckoffgoogle He usually breaks his videos in 3 parts: Normal street driving, circuit time attack, then drifting (covering all driving bases). People who buy these cars may not drift them everywhere, but they like the fact their car is capable of doing it. Make sense? Plus Chris Harris actually has professional racing experience he can do it all
@BFD15i
@BFD15i 9 жыл бұрын
fuckoffgoogle You did see the first part of the video where Chris drives the M3 on open roads? All in all, you don't burn / waste more rubber on a M3 than on an AWD-car with that amount of power. Yeah, the rear tires get it hard. On an AWD-car you burn the rear tires less but you burn your front tires, too. Not a real comparison but I had an E39 M5 a couple of years ago. Not turbocharged but very capable of drifting. And you know what? If you don't go nuts the tires were not an issue at all. BUT: If you want to go nuts from time to time and still want to have daily-use-capabilities, there's no better car than an RWD M-car.
@lancercool1992
@lancercool1992 9 жыл бұрын
derbigpr500 he pretty much likes every car he test drives
@SlowJoe76
@SlowJoe76 9 жыл бұрын
the Internet gives clueless idiots a voice. like the ones you see here by reading what's on their little minds
@Max-vq9xd
@Max-vq9xd 5 жыл бұрын
Fuckingoogle rs are quicker and better than s
@charliethompson4236
@charliethompson4236 4 жыл бұрын
Chris Harris. The only motoring journalist who knows what he's talking about. I'd buy a car, that he rates, without driving it myself....I trust him that much
@dolphinoegglet7263
@dolphinoegglet7263 9 жыл бұрын
I think Chris(t) Harris is the only car presenter who could do this whole separation from a channel and make his own (for free?) and still make everything work.
@--Artur--
@--Artur-- 9 жыл бұрын
Love how he repaints the white line at 4:01
@Foxtrot2312
@Foxtrot2312 8 жыл бұрын
I miss seeing new videos of Chris Harris :(
@xboy4331
@xboy4331 8 жыл бұрын
He tweeted recently that he will make more videos as soon as possible, he's just really busy with Top Gear.
@Birmingham_racing
@Birmingham_racing 8 жыл бұрын
his been too busy with the new top gear
@cutdepiefails6596
@cutdepiefails6596 8 жыл бұрын
He will do them after the top gear ends.
@kunalmore5212
@kunalmore5212 8 жыл бұрын
Me too :(
@NoGoodJim
@NoGoodJim 9 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't mind Chris hosting Top Gear.
@beniaminroso1573
@beniaminroso1573 8 жыл бұрын
Your dreams have just come true :D
@albir7043
@albir7043 4 жыл бұрын
This aged well :D
@sorintarna9649
@sorintarna9649 20 күн бұрын
This aged well 😂❤
@stephenmac23
@stephenmac23 8 жыл бұрын
That's how you drive an M3.
@dashcamvideos256
@dashcamvideos256 8 жыл бұрын
+Ogstevie but problem is how many people have his skill to drive the M3 like he does?
@stephenmac23
@stephenmac23 8 жыл бұрын
+Dashcam Videos i don't know, better get yourself one and start learning 😂😇
@stephenmac23
@stephenmac23 8 жыл бұрын
+Dashcam Videos on a more serious note, I've found that driving a BMW isn't always about skill but more so about how much you enjoy your car for what it is, doesn't have to be an M3. Just have fun with it. Chris was having fun with it and pushing his limits. That's what I mean by how you drive an M3. It's the ultimate driving machine.
@TheArfdog
@TheArfdog 9 жыл бұрын
Chris, your descriptions are incredibly precise, articulated, and well-balanced with both pros and cons with EVERY car and just great journalism. On top of that the man can drive so really the best reporter out there bar none. Motor Trend or one of the American mags, if they want a shot in the arm... they hire this guy.
@lacimaci52
@lacimaci52 8 жыл бұрын
Hands down , the best car reviewer
@GordonGreenCincinnati
@GordonGreenCincinnati 8 ай бұрын
9 years on…still a masterpiece
@raaj85
@raaj85 Жыл бұрын
Watched this video when it first came out and again today all these years later as I'm going to pick up a 2018 BMW M3 CS tomorrow 👌🏽
@deesee76
@deesee76 Жыл бұрын
I did similar, pulled the trigger on a 2017 m4 coupe with low kms last week. Looking forward to finally have one. I love the BMW straight 6s, having previous drove a e92 335i and more recently the m140i. I tried the c43 amgs and Audi s5 coupe, just didn’t connect with either of those cars.
@raaj85
@raaj85 Жыл бұрын
@@deesee76 nice one! Yeah I've wanted an M car for so long. I have a f30 328i as a daily and when my Subaru WRX STi was written off in a crash last year I knew I'd get a m3. Glad I got the CS model, it's the best of the F80 M3's 👍🏽
@deesee76
@deesee76 Жыл бұрын
@@raaj85 I wish I could find a F82 CS model so I dont have to go aftermarket for some of that lovely CS crackle and pops. If only they made a f82 with xDrive…. Love the look of the F8x series, classic design.
@raaj85
@raaj85 Жыл бұрын
@@deesee76 yeah you'd have to get a G series for x drive but the F series is so much more fun (and lighter) without it. I'm so happy with my M3 CS. They are quite rare in Australia. Only 30 came here
@4_HOSI_GP
@4_HOSI_GP Жыл бұрын
Guess what me too I’m getting a frozen dark blue m3cs and can’t wait to learn how to drive it till one gets to Chris’s levels
@fantk4595
@fantk4595 8 жыл бұрын
How does one find out if a car is properly good. Stop at 8:50 , that's the sign.
@kennyd7667
@kennyd7667 8 жыл бұрын
if it puts a smile on your face, then u know it's a great car.
@PeakTorque
@PeakTorque 9 жыл бұрын
Chris, please please please do some throwback e46 drive. Please.
@ayrtonatif572
@ayrtonatif572 9 жыл бұрын
I would love to see him drive the e46 M3 and Z4 M Coupe.
@williamthorell9232
@williamthorell9232 9 жыл бұрын
Ayrton Atif Yes the z4 M Coupe!!
@rizawibawa5824
@rizawibawa5824 9 жыл бұрын
couldn't agree more!
@PeakTorque
@PeakTorque 9 жыл бұрын
C'mon now Chris this request is really coming on apace now. I will donate my car, as long as you dont break it!
@Jbmarkowitz95
@Jbmarkowitz95 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, more E46 M3, we would love to hear your thoughts
@rollsolow
@rollsolow 8 жыл бұрын
I decided for a M3 because of this video !!
@saeedg4271
@saeedg4271 6 жыл бұрын
same! love it
@GimliTehDwarf
@GimliTehDwarf 6 жыл бұрын
Same here it was this and the Living Life Fast Review of the f80
@TheDabi88
@TheDabi88 6 жыл бұрын
Same lol
@alimakarehchi7064
@alimakarehchi7064 6 жыл бұрын
As did I!
@paulkirwan8786
@paulkirwan8786 6 жыл бұрын
Have you had any problems with it?
@pranavmukesh
@pranavmukesh 9 жыл бұрын
funny how GM are "claiming' that the ats v will "destroy" this machine! No offense GM but the ATS V will be in recalls before it even comes out of the factory!
@chrisg4rr377
@chrisg4rr377 9 жыл бұрын
I work for bm and they aren't unknown for recalls or "quality enhancements" as they are worded. Can't see GM making a good quality car tho
@Sam-mw5hx
@Sam-mw5hx 9 жыл бұрын
Recall thing kinda getting old..
@whiskeyactual.
@whiskeyactual. 9 жыл бұрын
LMAO exactly. GM has a 77% recall rate!
@nurburgringuk
@nurburgringuk 4 жыл бұрын
Just caught this video again 5 years after originally watching. This is why we like M cars, this is a why we love Chris Harris. Bravo.
@zeptosecond4106
@zeptosecond4106 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought a 2016 m3 base dct in 2021. I'm still stoked about Chris Harris review
@BSPBuilder
@BSPBuilder 8 жыл бұрын
Better than porn!
@jamviator
@jamviator 6 жыл бұрын
More proof that Motor Trend is a biased piece of shit. Johny Lieberman & Cammisa always try to make the M3/4 seem like a bad car, and they always try to shit on BMW. It's good to get a proper review from someone who actually knows what he's talking about.
@idokwatcher2062
@idokwatcher2062 Жыл бұрын
Or Maybe it is Harris that is shilling for BMW?
@jamviator
@jamviator Жыл бұрын
@@idokwatcher2062 go back and find the old motor trend videos from Lieberman and cammisa. It was literally embarrassing to watch. It was insane. They compared an M5 to an e63 and when the M5 was more flat in the corners they said the e63 rolling around like a whale actually adds drama but the M5 being flat in the corners feels like watching a TV screen and less like driving. Then they praise other cars for being flat in the corners. There were millions of blatant examples like that. And trust me it was way worse than I'm describing.
@kavan1773
@kavan1773 9 жыл бұрын
I actually like the sound. I think it'll grow on people, kind of like how the E46 M3 did.
@oneman7638
@oneman7638 5 жыл бұрын
The e46 was miles away from this in terms of sound.
@jtg2525
@jtg2525 9 жыл бұрын
I can't find the other video with the BMW engineer....
@mikehhhhhhh
@mikehhhhhhh 9 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Gray This - I wanted to watch that :o
@KuanHing
@KuanHing 9 жыл бұрын
+Jonathan Gray Has there been a link about it?
@mxdaw
@mxdaw 9 жыл бұрын
+Jonathan Gray If someone stumbles upon it PLEASE POST IT
@cutdepiefails6596
@cutdepiefails6596 8 жыл бұрын
+Jonathan Gray the one from /drive with the bloke with long hair? P.S. Did Chris did a review with the m4?
@R55LSD
@R55LSD 5 жыл бұрын
here just found it kzbin.info/www/bejne/bnStZ3yti9-JY6M
@benjaminchaplin5878
@benjaminchaplin5878 8 жыл бұрын
Cannot wait to see Chris Harris on TopGear... He's like a modern-day Jeremy Clarkson without the bullshit
@John-dx8xn
@John-dx8xn 8 жыл бұрын
I tested drive c63s and m3. Expert the sound, m3's everything almost better than c63s
@GuiLimaFR
@GuiLimaFR 9 жыл бұрын
Chris Harris, I just want to say a huge THANK YOU for you to say a "f*ck you" to \Drive and start this all-new, totally free chanel. You rock, dude. Cheers from Brazil!
@fortybwhodat5555
@fortybwhodat5555 5 ай бұрын
2024 and i still love looking at my 2016 F80.
@jimmyhoffa9
@jimmyhoffa9 9 жыл бұрын
That amount of torque is on par with BMW's own 3 litre diesel. . .but with petrol fuel instead. That kind of engineering is simply incredible, bearing in mind BMW has a reputation of building damned torquey diesels.
@102lammy
@102lammy 9 жыл бұрын
Turbo.
@rohanalias9053
@rohanalias9053 3 жыл бұрын
Yet people make fun of it
@SaMaster18
@SaMaster18 9 жыл бұрын
Finally got my F80 M3 in, in Mineral Gray/Sakhir Orange interior. The car is a MONSTER, in a complete other league from my 335is coupe. Still in the break-in stage, but this car is powerful! Love your videos Chris!
@derbigpr500
@derbigpr500 9 жыл бұрын
Why do people whine so much about the sound? It's a very good sounding car by any standard. I dare you to drive it and say "it sounds bad". Also...why does nobody on the internet (it doesn't matter, those people can't and won't buy it anyway) realize the point of this car? This is not a track car, or a race car. This is sporty luxury saloon car. This M3, and the current generation of the M5, are EXACTLY what these cars are all about. A combination of a luxury car that can be used every day, for every possible imaginable purpose, that looks tasteful but aggressive enough, that has a comfortable and luxurious interior, but can also be a sports car, that can be driven hard fun on THE ROAD (where 99% of these cars will spend 99% of their time) and driven very quickly on THE ROAD while remaining civilized. This is not a track car. Do you people realize the difference between a race track and a road? Do you realize how much different the setup of a car has to be in order to extract everything out of it on a track? Cars are set up for roads that have bumps, camber changes, surface changes, elevation changes, etc. Not for smooth tracks with a perfect surface and dry tarmac. The point of this car is to be comfortable, refined, luxurious AND sporty at the same time, and that requiers certain sacrifices. You have to get the balance right, and BMW did it. If the car was any softer overall, it would be too soft and too close to the regular 3 series. If it was any harder, it would be too uncomfortable on the road. If you want a track car, but a Cayman S, not a 4 door family sedan. There's no point in taking a family sedan and turning it into a hardcore stripped out race car, it's very inefficient and franky a waste of time.
@Doggepe
@Doggepe 2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna buy one of these the coming spring and I am so extremely excited seeing how great they are
@dinosoarskill17
@dinosoarskill17 Жыл бұрын
Did you get it?
@williamstarinovich9697
@williamstarinovich9697 7 ай бұрын
Did you get it?
@Doggepe
@Doggepe 7 ай бұрын
I had to wait one more year, but I got it last spring! @@williamstarinovich9697
@Birmingham_racing
@Birmingham_racing Жыл бұрын
After this the m3 styling took a massive downturn
@chrisbutler2636
@chrisbutler2636 Жыл бұрын
Just bought one , can't wait to collect it 😊
@Kaisuke971
@Kaisuke971 9 жыл бұрын
That is a great car. I mean al M3s are special, it's the purpose of an M3, but this one damn that's the M3 we want. And for once the saloon is better than the coupé !
@jdmnsxr6820
@jdmnsxr6820 6 жыл бұрын
Kaisuke971 e36 sedan m3 was better then the coupe... so no not first time lol
@daanfarrazijn841
@daanfarrazijn841 7 жыл бұрын
Who wants to buy a kidney?
@IYG-x7c
@IYG-x7c 6 жыл бұрын
Daan Farrazijn Actually kidneys are pretty cheap, it wouldn't be enough even for a very used F80 M3 w higher miles
@marcosrainha
@marcosrainha 9 жыл бұрын
I just want to say that the E90 M3 V8 engine is a masterpiece. I always liked non aspirated engines but that V8 is something else. I had the pleasure of drive a 4door for a few kms and just starting it, and the way it just revs... made my day, week, month even. Pleasure over performance any day. And... it doesn't lack performance, maybe by the new one standards, ok fine but I know what my choice would be. V8 for life ;-)
@razzy530
@razzy530 8 жыл бұрын
Fantastic car. What else do you ever need? Really !!
@bradfordpruett4013
@bradfordpruett4013 Жыл бұрын
As an owner of a 2018 m3 competion pack I love this car. I've just had all new exhaust from the turbos back and new charge pipes and coolers. I love it
@gtrlife2941
@gtrlife2941 11 ай бұрын
Hows it to live with daily look at getting 1
@elektrikblu7331
@elektrikblu7331 9 жыл бұрын
This channel should be called "Chris Harris goes sideways" hahaha
@ariffroose6356
@ariffroose6356 9 жыл бұрын
Thank God for Chris's own channel!!
@zatharos6427
@zatharos6427 7 жыл бұрын
Im very surprised he doesn't like that E92 that much
@ells-aviation
@ells-aviation 4 жыл бұрын
4:22 every bmw driver in your rear view mirror
@teamvigod
@teamvigod 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Harris's own channel! Subscribed! Best part of the video he licks the car! LOL. The M3/M4 is phenomenal. Drove it at Advanced M School at VIR. Great performer and very fun all out on the track. Learned there that the M3/M4 are virtually identical and perform identically so if you need a coupe or 4 door you don't lose either way.
@rolft5574
@rolft5574 9 жыл бұрын
I know a turbo M3 is odd but why not! BMW always stayed away from turbocharging because back then NA motors were much smoother to drive, the old straight 6 motors were lovely & do sound great. These twin turbo setups have come a long way & appear pretty fine tuned compared to your average old school high pressure single turbo whop in the guts/wheels. As long as the motor retains its driveability but is making more power im all for it, IMHO this is still in the "M" spirit. The lack of tuneful NA sounds is a bit of a blow, I think this has always been a large part of the M3 although I personally also like the different character a turbo gives to an engine. On the plus side, some simple bolt on mods & mild tuning would likely turn it into a pretty raucous thing.
@alexandermichaels6283
@alexandermichaels6283 8 жыл бұрын
If Chris Harris enjoyed this car why didnt motor trend? is it cause their supported by gm?
@18iser
@18iser 9 жыл бұрын
WHERE IS THE TECH VIDEO?
@davidh2809
@davidh2809 8 жыл бұрын
+18iser they had it under the pay channel for drive+ before chris made his own channel
@bmwalpina4628
@bmwalpina4628 9 жыл бұрын
Great upload! BTW: The most hardcore BMW- M3 E46 CSL. Remember guys!
@Phil360_
@Phil360_ 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for beeing back Chris :)
@NoGoodJim
@NoGoodJim 9 жыл бұрын
Is this Chris' official channel?! Goodness this is awesome if it is!
@TSracer1
@TSracer1 9 жыл бұрын
It is. And it is awesome! :)
@RNMAutomotiveAddiction
@RNMAutomotiveAddiction 9 жыл бұрын
Chris was having too much fun doing those drifts lol M3 looks awesome but even better drifting with some tire smoke.
@JordieMotive97
@JordieMotive97 Жыл бұрын
Theyre half the price that they were brand new. So tempting, love this video. Basically, if Chris Harris likes it, you wont regret buying one lol
@FARESDIBANY
@FARESDIBANY 9 жыл бұрын
where do I find the other video of the engineer explaining the modifications?
@gec-o2167
@gec-o2167 3 жыл бұрын
2021 and I'm so glad I kept my 2018 F82 ZCP...still love driving it every day. If only Harris knew what the new generation car would look like...
@WilliamPetersen01
@WilliamPetersen01 5 жыл бұрын
I want this M3 so fucking bad. Yet I can't afford it.
@bmwm3hq830
@bmwm3hq830 9 жыл бұрын
The all new BMW M3 F80 high performance compact executive luxury sedan is a beast of a sports car. Check out this video, featuring Chris Harris.... #BMWM3F80 #BMWM3 #BMW #M3 #F80 #M3F80 #BMW
@knight2386
@knight2386 9 жыл бұрын
Chris Harris, Thank you for not making viewers pay for this channel. Your reviews were the only things I missed watching from the Drive channel.
@TheMpofu
@TheMpofu 9 жыл бұрын
The balance of the car!
@kaylinclaudepillay268
@kaylinclaudepillay268 9 жыл бұрын
wheres the tech vid????????????????????????????????????????i need to watch that..please please
@R55LSD
@R55LSD 5 жыл бұрын
just been searching for it, did you find it?
@R55LSD
@R55LSD 5 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/bnStZ3yti9-JY6M
@benripley7596
@benripley7596 4 жыл бұрын
He spanks the crap out of a car but with amazingly mechanical sympathy. Legend driver status.
@arleyki
@arleyki 9 жыл бұрын
2015 is my year. I will have an M6 Gran Coupe White on black with lots of carbon fibre bits and dark tint.
@OzarkAprilia
@OzarkAprilia 9 жыл бұрын
This video sold me. I can't drive like Chris but I still love mine.
@An.Individual
@An.Individual 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting he went on to slag the rear end of this car in later reviews. And M4 F82 "A car with rear end traction issues"
@Malc180s
@Malc180s 9 жыл бұрын
The first M3 in a long time to have an "ordinary" engine. I think that's a problem. The m3 six's in the 90s and early 00s were as well thought of as any engine on sale, and the last v8 was spectacular, although sadly it was in a heavy car. Shame in my book - the hint of exotic was the whole point. Now it's just a fast saloon. Competency is trumped by occasion every time.
@Krnnerdboy
@Krnnerdboy 9 жыл бұрын
What's so ordinary about a 430 hp i6? With a lot of tuning potential to boot? Got back from track in my m3 and this thing turns better than any m3 before it not to mention a great useable torque curve. And what's so special about a motor that's a v8 with no torque and internal design flaws(rod bearings/crankshaft), But revs to the moon and sounds great? Yet BMW has never used the s85 or s65 in any type of competitive motorsports? Nothing exotic about that....
@Malc180s
@Malc180s 9 жыл бұрын
roy kwon You're clearly the sort of person who doesn't understand. Fine. The only thing history will judge an engine on is sound and feel. The power, the torque, that WILL be bettered with the next model, and the next, and the next. The e46 and e92 engines are as good as it will EVER get for BMW. They were as good an engine as was available at their respective times - you could have reasonably argued that the e46 '6 was better than ANY other engine on sale in 2000. You can't do that with the new car. It's not even slightly close. It's not about performance - performance is dictated by marketing. "It must be a bit faster, but not so fast as we can't release a new one in a few years". BMW could have made this current 6 with 800bhp - that's not beyond the realms of current technology. But a 340bhp, 3.2 6 from 15 years ago? Sure, there's always a bit of a safety margin, but with that you were buying the best BMW could make.
@CJM44.41
@CJM44.41 9 жыл бұрын
roy kwon What are you on about? The S85B50 came out of the F1 programme at the very end of the V10 era. The S65B40 has been in use in the United Sports Car Series (ALMS before it was called the USCS) for several years now as well. Not like the new S55 is used in motorsport at all... They're still using a bespoke V8 in the DTM M4. Face it, the previous E9x M3 was far more of an event to drive because of its engine and having to rev it out to extract that brilliantly entertaining performance. I personally thought the steering was excellent in the E90 I drove too. Sure, its heavier than its successor and ultimately not as capable but is that all cars have become nowadays? Not saying the F8x M3/4 isn't a hoot to drive but I simply don't think the character and exclusivity of the previous car is there anymore.
@Krnnerdboy
@Krnnerdboy 9 жыл бұрын
I get it, and there maybe some lost in translation here. I've never considered Bmw to be the ultimate drivers car and could really care less with how much they're involved with motor sports as long as they continue to make fast cars. If you want a car that makes every drive an event then go look at Porsche. I buy bmws for daily drivability and with the option to track when wanted. The chassis is an 3 series for gods sake. It's not a real sports car and never will be. Get on with it. I've blown my s54 on track and had an s85 with a bad oil analysis from bad rod bearings. The clearances were too tight and not enough lubrication was available. The only way to fix the issue was too machine the crank and get new bearings. And that's the case for every s54,s65,s85 ever made. Your mileage may vary but that was 2 for 2 for me. Apparently Bmw knew this issue and changed to a flat plane crank on their race blocks among other benefits. So yes, I'd much rather have a sporty motor than a half assed race "derived" motor that they have been marketing to us all this time. Besides the f80 chassis is a notch above an e46 or e90 in handling. Luckily for you guys the e46 and e90 cars are selling for a song and are in no short supply. So enjoy them if that's how you truly feel. I put my money where my mouth is
@Malc180s
@Malc180s 9 жыл бұрын
roy kwon Approach with low expectations and I guess you'll be satisfied with any old rubbish. The whole entire point of the m3 was to have your everyday 3 series, but with one of the finest, most exciting engines you could buy under the bonnet. All performance engines wear. You just bought a 330i (or 335i these days) if you wanted the fast, easy option. If you wanted the exciting, slightly exotic option which would of course require maintenance and would have higher running costs, you bought the m. The new m3/4 is just a run of the mill bmw. Fun for the 10 minutes a week you actually find time to drive it fast. An e46 was fun reversing off the driveway.
@TheWuTangClan
@TheWuTangClan 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting these video out again Chris!!! as always great work!
@rio8677
@rio8677 Жыл бұрын
2023, still my dream car for daily use
@chillout1109
@chillout1109 9 жыл бұрын
Chris Harris on Cars Chris, you mentioned that there is a "technical stuff" video about the M3 tech, where is this video? I couldn't find it on your channel. Great review as usual, by the way. And I'm not sure why people still moan about manual gearboxes in 2014. These gearboxes are awesome, especially this DCT. I for one prefer a dual clutch over a manual any day. I also prefer this 4 door M3 sedan this time round. I think it's better looking than the 3 door M4 coupe, unlike the previous generation where the 3 door M3 coupe was better looking than the 4 door sedan M3. All my opinions, obviously.
@Beolex
@Beolex 9 жыл бұрын
First of all, DCT is completely unnecessary if you aren't already a professional driver. DCT buys you faster shift times, but it doesn't buy you track skill. The only thing that gives you track skill is first-hand experience, such as learning cornering, throttle control, left-foot braking, taming oversteer but minimizing understeer. Race car drivers already mastered racing etiquette, so their lap times are consistent. If they want to improve their already-consistent lap times, that's where the technical things come into play, such as quick gearboxes (whether single or dual clutch), tires, camber and suspension geometry. However, on the street, the DCT gearbox is completely useless. Most of the F30/F80 M3/M4 buyers are only marginally better than the average driver (if not the same or worse). Without a doubt, plenty M3/M4 owners are going to autocross or track their car, but they're going to perform so poorly (compared to experienced racers) that the DCT gearbox didn't help them, they actually needed track skills more than faster shift times. Once you're able to get record-setting, consistent lap times with a manual car, then you have a legitimate reason to desire a DCT. Second of all, people who opt for the DCT gearbox claim "its faster on the track" and its "racing technology"... but if you wanted a "fast race car" why are you buying a 3,500 lb. car with heated leather seats and Bluetooth controls? If you want to be a racer, at least do it right and get something that weighs less than 3,000 lbs. such as a Porsche 911 . The only advantage of DCT on the street is that you can beat your friends in a drag race. But drag races on the street are stupid because the next traffic light is going to turn red and you're going to end up right next to him.
@bujfvjg7222
@bujfvjg7222 9 жыл бұрын
Daniel Mirzotti Porsche 911...that has all those things you listed, one wouldn't want in a race car. But remember the point of ///M cars, good on track, good on the road and can take the family in. Good luck with that in your GT3, GT3 RS, GT2 or GT2 RS...
@Beolex
@Beolex 9 жыл бұрын
Bujf vjg Which 911 are you talking about? I'm referring to 911's like 996 GT3, 964 RS America, 993 C2, etc. Very trackable cars. I've personally got a 87 3.2 Carrera and I autocross it regularly, great track car. Stripped out, bucket seats with 4-point harness, lightweight, handles well, has good tires on it, and good suspension too.
@bujfvjg7222
@bujfvjg7222 9 жыл бұрын
Daniel Mirzotti I LOVED the tea-tray's on the old 911 Turbos. But yeah, the M3 and M5 have always been able on track, like the 911 but with added ability of hauling 4 people and some luggage. I'm not saying I don't like the 911, I'd have one if I could but I would also have an M car to use when I need the space.
@TheArfdog
@TheArfdog 9 жыл бұрын
Daniel Mirzotti And you think you're a "racer" because you drive a 911, which is still a road car? You're a fool. And since you're so high and mighty, know that real racers drive race cars, not road cars. The new M3 is the best in years, DCT or not.
@UOTCbassist
@UOTCbassist 9 жыл бұрын
Just removed adblock for this youtube channel, you deserve all the support you can get Chris! I encourage others using adblock to do the same.
@BlackBirds93
@BlackBirds93 3 жыл бұрын
Who's here in anticipation of Chris Harris driving the new G80 M3
@xboy4331
@xboy4331 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you Chris for leaving drive!!! I've missed your vids for so long!!
@PrinceBarin77
@PrinceBarin77 2 жыл бұрын
M4 Comp - still the best and most enjoyable car I have owned. Looked gorgeous and stylishly aggressive. Fighter jet driving dynamics yet fine as a DD. Still miss it, even in my F90.
@山内淳カイル-i5d
@山内淳カイル-i5d 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder what this car would sound from the inside if the speakers are busted.
@gmax876
@gmax876 3 жыл бұрын
8:38 This is from factory folks, you don't need a tune, you just need skill.
@allthepizzainmybelly1302
@allthepizzainmybelly1302 2 жыл бұрын
Chis's excitment of this gen vs the g80 is pretty telling.
@abdulkhan2694
@abdulkhan2694 6 жыл бұрын
I was in 2 minds about this car but this is the car for me getting it very soon
@glennonggara
@glennonggara 9 жыл бұрын
I cant find the video with the engineering talk. Where can I find it?
@R55LSD
@R55LSD 5 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/bnStZ3yti9-JY6M
@deebee68
@deebee68 9 жыл бұрын
Oddly this is the first good review I've seen of this car. It's been ripped in every review. The EVO review I watched yesterday hated it.
@tysanborn375
@tysanborn375 9 жыл бұрын
Chris, c'mon my friend... We all love you to death, but to refer to the E92 as, "probably not the best package"(???)... let's not get too carried away here, ok. And claiming that most M car's brakes "feel like they are made of butter"??? Again, a bit of a head scratcher, as the E92 brakes are fantastically strong and full of wonderful feel. The new F80 is obviously a magnificent M car, but in its own new ways. The previous E92 was (and still is) a magnificent M car as well, and in many respects I prefer IT over the new F80. To be perfectly honest, I'd like one of each please! Thanks for the most informative and well done auto videos in the business Chris (and Drive)... But let's not forget the past quite so quickly!
@nutsackmania
@nutsackmania 9 жыл бұрын
It's just his opinion. Like most of what he says in his videos.
@TheMultiDouche
@TheMultiDouche 9 жыл бұрын
There's a reason AP Racing and Brembo make larger brake kits for them. The brakes on my CSL were the weakest link so out they came and in went AP 6 pots /4 pots. Positive pedal and 0 fade. Replacement rotors are a second mortgage on the house but a worth while compromise to not bin it. It is an odd opinion though given the ceramic package is on the car.
@pranavmukesh
@pranavmukesh 9 жыл бұрын
I love the e90/92/93 series m3 as well! But i think its too overrated while this new m3 is really under rated! I hate how a lot of magazines are saying how the f80 is a bad car because the engine doesn't sound as good as the previous versions! i've driven the e92 around willow springs and the new M4! The M4 is in a different league when it comes to sophistication in the chassis, gearbox and engine! the e92 around willow had too much understeer and the brake pedal was unbelievably stiff and the braking performance was okay! And according to owners of the e46 M3 I've talked to, they also say that the e46's brakes are really bad!
@davidhorsmanzano6486
@davidhorsmanzano6486 9 жыл бұрын
It's an F80 M3!!! Excellent video!
@vongeiss
@vongeiss 9 жыл бұрын
Chris Harris on Cars you would take one with the DCT over the 6spd manual? I know it's an amazing gearbox, surely faster, but have they made it so good you would prefer one to a standard 6spd for your own car?
@Kevin-nm6ky
@Kevin-nm6ky 9 жыл бұрын
So, Chris Harris, would you take the DCT instead the manual gearbox? (I mean for "common" use, not for circuit racing).
@ccar1332
@ccar1332 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful! Thank you Chris.
@kaitrojan6970
@kaitrojan6970 9 жыл бұрын
Great Video! But where's the one, with the BMW Engineer explaining the car? Couldn't find it
@BlasionTV
@BlasionTV 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you Chris!!!!
@LorenzoBotero
@LorenzoBotero 5 жыл бұрын
Wheres the other video he was referring to??
@L47M
@L47M 4 жыл бұрын
This guy has mastered drifting/ power sliding
@itsme__db
@itsme__db 7 жыл бұрын
"I'd like one of all of those" when looking at every M3 generation really is the epitome statement for any motoring enthusiast.
@Treeezplz
@Treeezplz 5 жыл бұрын
*turn it all off, and wreck some tires* Words to live by right there! 🤙🤙
@jameswallace7091
@jameswallace7091 6 жыл бұрын
"I'm going to go and lick it" Bahahahaa God I love this guy lets hope he stays at top gear and does some more stuff like this on it stop trying to keep the old format as the grand tour is around and you won't pull it off but stuff like this would be awesome!
@scotthastings8845
@scotthastings8845 8 жыл бұрын
My friends dad has one and made me shit myself last night when he put the foot down and it was only half power because the temp in the tyres was too cold and they were just spinning 😂😂
@davidf5449
@davidf5449 7 жыл бұрын
I've had one for 2 years now love it 6spd fun of course
@ArtVandelayOfficial
@ArtVandelayOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
David F Dct better
@vighneshramesh2569
@vighneshramesh2569 9 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal review! I love the way you highlighted the sheer capability of the car like no one else...not even motor trend drifted that much!
@euanbegbie
@euanbegbie 9 жыл бұрын
any links to the technical video?
@streamingeagle1
@streamingeagle1 6 жыл бұрын
this is a proper review - best one of this M3 out there.
@lsc21
@lsc21 9 жыл бұрын
I think listening to Chris go on while he's driving great cars is more fun than I would have if I were driving them myself.
@fortybwhodat5555
@fortybwhodat5555 3 жыл бұрын
Still enjoy watching this 5 year old video.
@Boostd4
@Boostd4 4 жыл бұрын
It's still hilarious to me that people talk more about the sound the car makes rather than what the car does. As many times as I've watched this review, it still never gets old. Chris' reaction to the monster drifts on the circuit is still funny as hell.
@rohanalias9053
@rohanalias9053 3 жыл бұрын
Most of the people who comment are fans of the older m cars .sadly they don't agree that a car isn't just the exhaust note
@22Epic
@22Epic Жыл бұрын
@@rohanalias9053 Those people are not "fans" and probably never owned a M car.
@floras7826
@floras7826 2 жыл бұрын
whats with him calling the e92 steering non connected and had a lack of information when it was hydraulic aand the f80 is electric which everyone else says feels worse
@oversteer_9339
@oversteer_9339 11 ай бұрын
I'd buy this over the new 2023. Probably a bargain now rather than paying for that awfully expensive g80 m3 comp. Even with anticipation of repairs and service costs, it's still gonna be cheaper than buying a new g80
@yjasper8411
@yjasper8411 9 жыл бұрын
is he going to buy one?
@Fioravanti.80
@Fioravanti.80 9 жыл бұрын
A review by a fanboy, how useful...here is a guy who says a 458 Speciale sounds 'artificial' and assesses this to sound good, despite the sound being patently artificial. What a load of bollocks.
@thelotus6201
@thelotus6201 9 жыл бұрын
This is a terrible review (as usual with Chris Harris). M cars are capable of so much more than what he shows here. In this video Chris pretty much makes the M3 look like nothing more than a fancy drift machine. The truth is FAR more entertaining than what this video shows!!
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