TRANSFORMERS: THE BASICS on LIOKAISER

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[@CsBTransition]

There’s a fine line where Breastforce is too silly and Headmasters is A-OK.

[@jonmason1742]

😆😆😆😆😆

[@spanglezekankleplushapalooza]

You sir, just made my day.

[@mortelpaolo]

And her name is Heather Brooke. A true headmaster.

[@davetycho8330]

Breastmasters?

[@jonmason1742]

@@mortelpaolo I feel ashamed that I know axactly who you're talking about 😆😆😆😆🤷‍♂️

[@tronmaster5704]

That sigh before "breastforce" is just a mood.

[@AFlyingSwive]

I lost it at "horn breast"

[@videogollumer]

He saw the comments section of the Deathsaurus video. He knew what was being implied.

[@MezTZO]

I've always preferred the fan name, "Armor Masters". That way you can call attention to the team's main gimmick and pay homage to all the "-Master" sub-types of Transformers that were coming out at the time they were first introduced. It even works because each member had a smaller partner that becomes a part of them, just like Head-, Target- and Powermasters did.

[@magatetus]

That would work, the Armor Masters.

[@ShadowWingTronix]

I like it. Also the Brainmasters. Someone get Hasbro on this.

[@load-bearingcoconut5586]

@@ShadowWingTronix Brainmasters are already a thing though?

[@ShadowWingTronix]

@@load-bearingcoconut5586 No, that would be a terrible name for Leozack and friends. I was just adding to the "X-Master" list with the one partner team the original poster didn't mention as further proof "Armormasters" could work. In fact they could probably enhance the idea with armor pieces all over, kind of like how they botched the Mini-Cons by not focusing on their armor and weapon potential. Sorry I wasn't clear.

[@Undrave]

That would work well! And they could make it clear that using the animal partner as a weapon is giving up some of their defenses.

[@TFormers2002]

It's unfortunate for Deathcobra in IDW because when Liokaiser made the cameo in combined mode, the artist accidentally drew and colored him with Hellbat as the left arm like normal despite him being dead. Which means Deathcobra still has not "officially" been seen as part of the Liokaiser form. Poor guy

[@random_dev3703]

Well, I like to interpret it as Drillhorn becoming the left arm sense he is on the same side of Liokizer as hellbat.

[@psychokitty444]

Having not seen Victory, that's actually really neat that they spent that long focusing on the individual members and building the team up. Makes Liokaiser himself much more of a payoff.

[@Hektols]

Watch it, things completely change when Liokaiser is introduced.

[@TFfangeek]

A simple solution to changing Liokaiser's team name is instead of "Breastforce," calling the Decepticons who combine into him, the "Beastforce," by removing the first letter "r" in the groups name.

[@pkrockinomega4184]

Beast force is a way better name! They could also call themselves the Armor force because breast plates are armor.

[@MezTZO]

It only semi-kinda works, because on hearing the name "Beastforce" your first inclination is to expect them to transform into animals themselves.

[@TFfangeek]

@@pkrockinomega4184 Armor Force is a fantastic name too. :D

[@KasumiKenshirou]

@@MezTZO The chest plates do turn into animals, so it does make sense.

[@GioNToji]

All of them have animal names. Beastforce is good fit for their team's name.

[@bilal_Hadjlaoui907]

liokaiser was one of my fan favourite combiners,something about his color scheme,design and his face sculpt,really wish if the combiner wars figure did got some Justice

[@darkneon5637]

I like it combiners name Liokaiser

[@hotwheelsFanxdversion-xm1rl]

Who is liokaiser

[@bilal_Hadjlaoui907]

@@darkneon5637 ??

[@eudacye709]

A blaster enjoyer, nice !

[@bilal_Hadjlaoui907]

Its funny and ironic how the torso of combiner wars liokaiser is formed by deathsauas himself,whose a repaint of sky lynx

[@tartatovsky]

Its both. Lore wise Deathsaurus and Leozack were damaged and had to be combined resulting in Dezaras. Which is also the reason why the choose Skylynx (Bird mode =Deathsaurus, Lynx mode= Leozack)

[@sanedimentio]

I was always of the mind that if the Breastforce would get localized with the breast animals they would have been renamed Armor Masters, as the style is similar to HeadMasters and Target Masters.

[@anthonyfillbrunn2391]

That would make sense or you could call them combatmasters since there chestplates become both a weapon and an animal.

[@AztecCroc]

Or BeastMasters and then they could be called the Beastforce.

[@justinarzola4584]

They would have probably used the beast suffix instead.

[@videogollumer]

@@justinarzola4584 *prefix Suffixes come at the end, prefixes at the beginning.

[@Nx57ytre]

I'm surprised they didn't make a comeback in the War of Cyberetron Trilogy, their original gimmick would have meshed well with the C.O.M.B.A.T. System. Maybe we'll see them in Legacy. It's weird, but I like Big Rescue Force Bot, at least in concept. Instead of turning into a humanoid combiner, he has a realistic mecha vibe, sort of like a MechWarrior.

[@mikestudioz216]

0:26 Nice addition of the sigh. Makes it all the more humorous!

[@-mcpie-6802]

If I had to rename the entire team, I would go with "Crestforce", "Beastforce or "Shieldforce".

[@sivanlevi3867]

In Transformers roleplay, me and a friend of mine call these Decepticons something less embarrassing to say, but still close enough to the gimmick to be fitting. I gave them the name Heartmasters and also reinvented them into Decepticon members of the Transformers ninja group, the Six Clan. Members named, Leozak, Fellbat (renamed Hellbat), Jallguar, Ironbison (renamed Killbison), Guyhawk, Drillhorn, Lizak (who turns into Liokaiser's sword) and Cobranite (renamed Deathcobra, who turns into Liokaiser's shield) I also renamed their animal partners, giving one to Lizak and Cobranite as well. Lionbreast as Nemea (after the lion defeated by Hercules) Jaguarbreast as Jaguar (simple I know, but I couldn't think of anything else) Komoribreast as Revenant (spooky sounding) Hawkbreast as Rockbeak (kind of like Laserbeak, sort of) Bisonbreast as Rodeo (I mean why not?) Hornbreast as Dunehorn (close to his master's name, but it figures right?) Tigerbreast as Sphinx (he does have wing-like attachments after all) Eaglebreast as Garuda (after the bird monster from Indian myth) Cobranite's partner I named Coblast (slightly clever, but ya know) Lizak's partner is Sabor (after the leopard from the movie Tarzan)

[@todddavis2041]

Well unfortunate name aside, i hope that if Hasbro or Takara do a modern remake of Liokaiser they do it accurately. Both in terms of name and appearance. Also, i hope we get Deathcobra and his partner too.

[@user-ju2jj3vi4d]

Deathcobra's animal partner is named cobrabreast.

[@sarahquinn6849]

I’ve always thought a good name to replace “breastformers” would be Maraudercons Also hoping to see an episode on Raiden/Rail Racer one day 🤞🏻🤞🏻

[@kilroywashere513]

That’s a interesting name🤔.

[@snooze821]

Or just remove one extra letter and call them, 'Beastforce' which probably what was suppose to happen but probably a typo got pushed through and nobody corrected it in time which was very common at the time in Japan. It's what happened to Donkey Kong.

[@KasumiKenshirou]

@@snooze821 I think the Japanese intended it to be "Breastforce". If you look it up in the dictionary, one definition of "breast" is just the chest area of a person or other animal, male or female. The were probably just not thinking at all or completely unaware of the other definition referring to a woman's anatomy, considering all the Breastforce characters are male. "Donkey" comes from donkeys being stubborn. The whole mistyped "Monkey Kong" story is a myth. And Donkey Kong is a gorilla, so "Monkey Kong" would still be referring to the wrong animal.

[@cameronmoriarty3313]

He mentioned recently he is thinking on an Autobot train video, but he is waiting (at minimum) for all of the MPG Raiden to be fully revealed to make sure it is included in the video.

[@NovaSaber]

@@KasumiKenshirou In Japanese media, the English word "breast" means "breastplate" (armor that covers the chest) more often than it refers to the chest itself. That's certainly what it means for the Breastforce. So maybe "Armorforce" would be a better altered name? (Or "Platemasters"? It's always been weird that they're the only "small partner gimmick" from G1 that don't have "master" in their name.)

[@i.m.evilhomer5084]

I couldn't contain my Peter Griffin-esque giggles for this episode.

[@Gaia_BentosZX5]

Correction: "The unfortunate name" is due to the fact that "Chest" does not exist in the japanese language, and is a unisex word to describe both a male and female chest. This is also present in Mazinger Z's signature attack, Breast Fire. In short, "Breastforce" (named after their unique gimmick) in this context doesn't sound sexual at all where in the context of Kiss Players, the word is seen as sexual. Keep in mind that this is happening during the "sanitization era" of US animation during the Satanic Panic, between stuff like Kissyfur and the Little Clowns of Happytown.

[@GinraiPrime666]

Its not so much an issue with the name, if people look at the name and giggle like children then ultimately the issue is with them, not the Breastforce. If Breast Fire is good enough for Mazinger Z and most mecha fans can say that name with a straight face, I don't see why Transformers fans can't do the same for the Breastforce.

[@captainlastreo5160]

@@GinraiPrime666 Fans giggle because it's a stupid name.

[@friskybitzboi]

@@GinraiPrime666 You can’t pretend that the name works all that well in English. The word breast has connotations that “chest” doesn’t and it’s not immature to acknowledge that

[@GinraiPrime666]

@@friskybitzboi Its not that its immature to acknowledge that, personally speaking I don't let it bother me. It refers to Breastplates which is what their animal partners are, refers to their armour. If the word Breastplate can work then I don't see why Breastforce couldn't, even if they changed it to how it was in the Metrodome Victory subtitles of Brestforce would be fine.

[@kaylemathewcomendador6964]

So basically it looks like a regional thing.

[@SentaiDadvsRiderGirl]

There is a set of unofficial toys from Iron Factory for Lio Kaiser that's really cool and perhaps worth mentioning here.

[@wilsonng994]

I'm pretty sure Chris doesn't consider third-party Transformers toys to be worth mentioning in almost all of his videos.

[@GetIrked]

Why it’s always important to translate your product name into other languages! 😂 Chevy learned this when the Nova failed to sell in Mexico where it translated into “No Go.” FANTASTIC VIDEO!! I died laughing when you sighed before saying, “Breast Force.”

[@TheTimPilot]

Since Deathcobra never had its own toy, a friend and I made our own custom figure in 2019. It is fully transformable, has breastforce weapon and can combine with Liokaiser as his left arm. We made it as an exclusive for a toy con in Norway, and there now exists only nine figures of Deathcobra in the world. The next year we changed it a bit and made it as an Autobot called Diveblade that combines as a right arm.

[@user-ju2jj3vi4d]

Deathcobra will be an excellent choice for selects due to the release of siege Spinister.

[@christopherbravo1813]

how did you make your own figure?

[@gluever54]

"So this charcter Death Cobra, he turns into a helicopter. Any guess to what helicopter?" "The AH-" "That's right! The Mi-24 Hind!"

[@user-ir1xo9jp8w]

The pauses after saying something related to "breast" is what made this video all the more entertaining besides learning about Liokaiser lol.

[@itszeronizer597]

Here’s how I think they might work, they start out as new recruits, leozack could be the leader trying to rise to the top (although not through treacherous means unlike starscream, who could be his mentor) guyhawk could be a narcissistic jerk who becomes a better person, hellbat (or fellbat) could be a loner who later gets along with his team later on and has a friendly rivalry with death cobra (or ghost cobra) who replaces him later when he is killed battling the armies of unicron, jaguller could be someone with anger issues who often gets into fights, kill bison (or iron bison) could be a muscle of the group, who isn’t vey intelligent, and drill horn could be the team’s mechanical expert. The autobot rescue team could be shattered glass versions of them.

[@Papai_Pai]

you would have thought somebody at the marketing department would have thought maybe armour force be a more appropriate name

[@serbianslav5494]

3:52 For anyone wondering, the helicopter is a Mil Mi-24 "Hind" from the USSR.

[@returnedtomonkey8886]

A Hind-D?

[@user-ju2jj3vi4d]

An mi 24 hind assault helicopter.

[@bluemodelt]

Just gonna go ahead and say it. Thank you for keeping us ABreast of the situation.

[@mr.end-game711]

given that we are getting a six man combiner team from the Dinobots in Legacy Evolution, we could see an new iteration of Liokaiser in the future.

[@svartmetallyst7712]

And if you take into account the HasLab Star Saber and the recently revealed Galaxy Shuttle in the Speedia 500... I think a new Liokaiser and Deathsaurus is just around the corner (and I really hope that Road Caesar and Landcross are too).

[@cyberprime9355]

Dubious Team name aside, I will call them "Destrons" since they are named that on their US Toy packaging and in the mobile game. Although, given their gimmick involving beast partners, why not rebrand them as the "Beastforce" or "Primal Force" Regardless, these bots are the stand-out stars of the Victory anime, what with their conflicting yet memorable personalities, and the stories that featured them (even if that is by of being Deathsaurus' Goon Squad). Also, I do hope Jallguar makes it in the mobile game if only as a non-combining member of the team.

[@Chill_With_Will]

I think Liokaiser would make a great haslab. Especially if they could figure out a way to maintain the fact that the g1 figure didn't need any additional parts to combine beside like the head. Maybe a team of voyagers. Given how well Star Saber did its possible

[@dredskl]

I like how they gave a 10,000 ton robot invisibility like nobody was going to notice his footsteps or something

[@peterdanior4538]

The name Breastforce isn’t so bad. Imagine if their weapons/animals were made from their crotch plates instead.

[@ChaosCounseling]

The Johnson force

[@robertstephen8372]

The Baby maker Force.

[@samueltempleman5424]

Prickticons

[@XENOS_Indie_Game_Dev]

Thrustmaster Force 6000

[@AR-xd3dp]

Maybe but the censors might not think so

[@mettaton1669]

This is easily my favorite combiner team and combiner. I'm so excited to see you've finally done a video on these guys

[@shadowmarauder6033]

Another great english name could be “Beast force” to reflect their animal partners. Heck, the normal transformers could turn into animals as well if they go by that name!

[@madskillz808]

I can imagine that's the first thing hasbro thought of, but I reckon they didn't go with it because of power rangers.

[@MezTZO]

I've always preferred the fan name, "Armor Masters". That way you can call attention to the team's main gimmick and pay homage to all the "-Master" sub-types of Transformers that were coming out at the time they were first introduced. It even works because each member had a smaller partner that becomes a part of them, just like Head-, Target- and Powermasters did.

[@colestrawn4304]

Personally a good name for them could be "adaptacons" because their partner figures can form into a chestplate/ detachable shield for added defence, a gun for long range offense, and an anine for scouting.

[@loothhussainfazeel855]

I like "Ultracon" as a new moniker for this group.

[@Cdr2002]

Ayyy that’s one way to call back Ratbat’s old group

[@dustinarmstrong1168]

It's even got a bat themed fella in the group too.

[@kirbymarchbarcena]

Those Japanese really had some funny names to call their characters

[@m.e.c.hn.e.s.t4757]

Additionally: the (sigh) Breastforce also inspired Soundwave's way to deploy Laserbeak in Transformers: Prime.

[@ETH5626]

I think Megatron would be extremely pleased having Liokaiser in his army, considering his brute strength, cunning, and unlike the other combiners (with a small exception to Predaking since he's always focused on one thing) he doesn't really have a mental handicap and has the ability to turn invisible. I mean I can picture Liokaiser giving Optimus Prime and the Autobots a hard time as if Devastator wasn't bad enough.

[@ghidotheone]

The Japanese language has always preferred to use the word “breast” when using an English word for chest, and it’s never in reference to female anatomy. They did that because “chest” is very similar in pronunciation to an actual Japanese word, and that would be too confusing for the audience. But people can’t help but immediately associate it with boobs when it comes over here, despite the fact that terms like breastplate are still in our vocabulary. It’s not some crazy terrible word. They didn’t go around calling themselves the “boob patrol.”

[@nexthegamer7221]

They didn't, but now that you've said this I shall never refer to them as anything other than the Boob Patrol

[@reyonXIII]

As an ESL tutor to Japanese people, this is why I tell my students to NEVER use Japanese English in actual English, to assume that almost all of these terms are incorrect, since, as shown with "breast" instead of "chest", either pronunciation or use are indeed incorrect. There are a few exceptions, like "anime" and "salaryman", but that's coz those terms are a culture unto their own. Though, I don't tell them to not use such in their own language, coz it's fine and ultimately harmless, with the sole exception of "mania", meaning what we would call "geek".

[@misterpreposterous5771]

You can defend penchant of the Japanese to use cool-sounding (in their opinion) English words semi-randomly in their media, but no matter how you slice it, "Breastforce" is a silly name. Even if you skip the mammaries connotation, the next most popular one refers to meat cut from poultry. If Hasbro has any serious plans to incorporate Japanese media to Transformers in the west, they need to hire someone talented to rewrite 80% of names so they don't stick out like a sore thumb. The recently announced Velocitron "Galaxy Shuttle" is one of those cases in dire need of a new name.

[@geraldsyta6890]

Breastplate..... Wow u have a point there

[@itsahostiletakeover]

No one is saying it ISN'T a silly name, but to seemingly treat it as taboo in 2022 is a bit strange. I started to mess with Chris on Patreon a few days ago and tell him his aversion to saying the team name perhaps says more about him than anything since men and birds technically have breasts as well 😅 But your response is far better!

[@XxAzraelGTxX]

The Breast Force was a force to be reckoned for in Victory. Leo Zack wasn't the typical Starscream copy, he was clever, resourceful and an accomplished fighter. Even going against Star Saber without combining. Kaizer were also the reason [spoilers] Victory Leo exists. And Death Saurus was sometimes reluctant of them because of their skill and power.

[@calebporter3735]

I feel like a suitable replacement name would be "Blastforce" since someone on Twitter pointed out that in Japanese, it's pronounced basically the same way.

[@d23iu4hr]

Ahh, that blue and white rescue force car was possibly the final G1(?) transformers toy I ever received and it always bugged me that I never knew its name... and now I finally know, that it was because it never had one..!

[@hobartpaving8986]

Never mind the odd repaint, I’d give someone else’s left arm for a Siege-level line of Victory toys (throw in Dai Atlas, Grandus, and Sky Garry too)…

[@Autocon609]

I never understood why Hasbro didn't import them and sell them as "Battlemasters" (We already had Head, Power, Target, Brain, God, & Micro). Battlemasters makes sense when it comes to the chest components: +Attack when a Weapon, +Defense when a Plate & Balanced when an animal.

[@Ontarioku77]

Kinda surprised they didn’t just drop to R and call them Beast Force since they have the animal motif robot modes and names. Heck make them a dark parody of sentai teams like the Ginyu force

[@ZonoYT]

I love how Liokaiser is designed and I hope that he's the next Haslab project

[@svartmetallyst7712]

I hope not, because if Liokaiser is a HasLab exclusive, that will mean a lot of people (including me, yes) won't be able to get it.

[@ZonoYT]

@@svartmetallyst7712 sucks to be you lol

[@Eternal_Sky_Tardis]

@@svartmetallyst7712 IKR! Why does everyone want Liokaiser in Haslab??? Just put him in the mainline like Menasor

[@sidearmsalpha]

@@Eternal_Sky_Tardis Because they'll just go cheap on it and reuse the same molds or remold them from some other figures like they did with the CW version. I have the TFC version and while it's not perfect, it's the best set out there with each figure being unique.

[@RobinSwede]

Classic Saturday vibes. Watching the latest basics episode followed by a new jobby review. Life’s good.

[@Chill_With_Will]

I feel like you could easily just change you could just change the name to Armor Force or something like that. The breast animals are on their chest like armor boom there you go its like prime armor

[@HiroTheWanderer]

The only thing I can come up with a better name for the Liokaiser combiner team is that of the "Armorcons" and that their combiner name "Liokaiser" should be named "Goliath". I think it suits the name for the combiner team as a whole.

[@Cdr2002]

Liokaiser is a badass name and doesn’t need to be changed

[@HiroTheWanderer]

@@Cdr2002 perhaps you're right.

[@christianbrown2471]

Great video as always....I bought the Combiner Wars set a few years ago and just thought he looked cool as hell. Really didn't know his backstory but now it makes sense to me. Keep these videos coming bro...expanding my Transformers knowledge is always a plus.

[@slicerneons3300]

We deserve an official Deathcobra Figure!

[@darrenheideman2546]

With Victory Saber getting so much attention recently...

[@user-ju2jj3vi4d]

Deathcobra will be an excellent choice due to the release of siege Spinister.

[@Robbobobobobobo]

What the hell i recently got the rescue crane figure at a flea market! I never knew it was a recolored part of liokaiser that's so cool!

[@DarthPrime52]

As always, Chris, good job keeping us abreast of Transformers history and lore.

[@dirgewordsmithe]

I, uh...I see whatcha did there...

[@brainlock72]

I wish I had known more about this team for the Liokaiser combiner set. I would have picked it up when it was semi-readily available. Toy shop I usually frequent in StL got in numerous cases of Combiner era toys, but most of them were bought by some guy with Wyoming plates. They were packing him up as I was coming in. I had to joke and point out where I was parked. 😜 I did manage to get a few planes and other Combiners out of that lot, tho. I think I still have several chest pieces from Marshall’s when they were dropping there for $15. Only ever saw one SkyLynx, tho.

[@bilal_Hadjlaoui907]

About time,Deathsaurus' goon squad gets some love...even if some them are sadistic AF. But, slight Deviation, Hasbro authorized Liokaiser to be a 5-bot combiner to keep things even with Computron in Earth Wars....have to wonder if the 6th bot will come back as a gun for Liokaiser? Side note: Here's hoping the Trainbots get a little love. I mean sure they have Masterpiece figures, but nothing for others. Also, for those unfamiliar, these bots, currently called "Destrons" are actually called the"Brestforce" (Deliberately misspelled based on the Anime) Two of the members, "Hellbat" and "Killbison" were renamed to "Fellbat" and "Ironbison Also, said Kill//ronbison is pretty fond of "flipping off" his adversaries

[@brainstorm9560]

Ah, yes the Breastforce. 😆 I'm currently planning a fanfic which will feature the Breastmasters but I'm going to call them Thoraxicons (thorax is latin for chest and con is so they fit better with the naming convention of other Decepticon combiner teams). The Breast-Animals will simple be reffered to as minicons and their individual names will be Lionbeast, Komoribeast, Bisonbeast, Jaguarbeast, Hornbeast and Hawkbreast (I feel no need to rename Hawkbreast since breast just has a different connotation when its a bird). I'm also giving Lyzack her own minicon named Lynxbeast cause I feel she deserves it.😊 Despite the silly name, I love the Breastforce. Their dynamic was one of the highlights of Transformers Victory.

[@seriouslycrazy8608]

Why we don't just called this team beastforce ? Also take a drink everytime chris say breast in this video

[@lewiekong]

It's too early to be this drunk

[@MoCa1979Jr]

Since they're kinda based off of the idea of knights wearing their crests on their breast plates, I've thought of a few new team names. "Crest Force", "CrestCons", or "CrestFormers" would be better names to me. They should have their "Crest Creatures" back, that double as their weapons & breastplates. And their new combined name should be "Crest King", "Kaiser Crest", or "Lio Crest".

[@raizer3959]

Just only one thing- how come Nosecone and Drillhorn both are same body styles, form, and shape, transform into alt modes differently, most notably their turret heads?

[@jonpower9728]

I need to get this off my chest. I'm glad this video came out.

[@Hektols]

I have the theory that the constant bond that they had with their animal partners is what allowed them to combine into the mentally stable and intelligent Liokaiser.

[@gabrielchee8470]

Yeah,makes sense, like Piranhacon and Predaking used similar mechanics to stay sane

[@harumochizuki]

I’m seeing a lot of people commenting the seemingly loved fan name of “Armor Masters,” so I figure I’d take a crack at an alternate name. I saw the team deployed their companions as ranged laser weapons as well, and they still had the broad shaping as per the design of the toys in chest plate or animal form. I could see them redesigned so that the companions bots could be used in chest plate mode as a handheld shield, say, to accompany an energy saber. Ergo, how about “Shieldmasters?”

[@kingtony_xx_0517]

To me liokaiser was unique, the way they toys had 2 gimmicks, that fact that the combiner was made up of 6 members instead of 5. So far the only new version on the "destrons" thats exactly like the originals was a 3rd party set. With Hasbro/Takara set to finish of Legacy Menasor within the next few months, there are plenty of Combiners for them to tackle now, who knows, maybe liokaiser will get a little love.

[@originaluddite]

Breastforce provokes giggling but, even nowadays, saying 'breastplate' passes unremarked. Context is kaiser...

[@HiperPivociarz]

Okay, if that name is a no go, how about Beastforce? It's one letter away. It still describes their gimmick perfectly. And it doesn't make you think about jabbos.

[@tridentsilver766]

Getting a legacy breastforce pack would honestly be so funny and cool I would get it in a heart beat. He a character that I would love to see released either in the Mainline or part of Haslab with incredible articulation and other goodies

[@keichishoshuko]

I grew up in asia owning Guyhawk and Killbison. and always wanted to complete the team. imagine my face when after I got back to TF hearing that these were super rare!

[@glennsalsi]

I’ve added arms microns and some battle masters to my combiner wars look wiser members; I feel like if you add some bits to the limbs the members can look pretty good but I hate the torso; I so wish the had retooled combiner wars starscream into leozak!

[@darkangel076]

Given the success of the Victory Saber Haslab, I've been hoping Liokaiser would be the next one up. Probably wishful thinking, I know.

[@TyphonMar]

Never know! They're doing some interesting stuff these days, we might see something

[@soundwavedoesthings]

That, or maybe a Titian class in legacy evolution, with Tidal Wave being a Haslab

[@riicky83]

I do often wonder what Liokaiser would look like if Hellbat was replaced with Deathcobra and if Liokaiser got a new ability.

[@maskedriderweaver4122]

I remember hearing about these guys when the internet first started to be big. I thought the name was a joke, but I found the characters (and the concept) very interesting. I'm glad they are making some headway into the West, but agree the name needs work.

[@dank_smirk2ndchannel200]

Ribforce might be a good name. It's still named after the same general area while being a bit morbid, which is fitting for an evil team.

[@andylloyd415]

I hope for Halloween, The Basics covers an appropriately creepy bot, like Mindwipe or Tarantulas.

[@robertespley248]

I'd like to see a basics on "Deaths Head" for Halloween, he's one character that can tie Marvel , Doctor Who and Transformers together into a sort of multiverse . Plus he's got a face that screams "Halloween "

[@DavidHutchinson0713]

Tarantulas would be good

[@patrickhein6986]

Hi Chris. I would love to see an Basics on Autobot Nightbeat at one Time. He is one of my Favourite Transformers.

[@angelomendoza1174]

The westernized "Chestforce" name is fine, but there were other various names such as the "Rack Pack" or maybe "Bosom Buddies" for example!!! Did you noticed that the seventh member and Hellbat's replacement Deathcobra resembles Serpentor, which he was Cobra Commander's replacement as well as the new leader of Cobra!!!

[@standardprotocolformat6090]

Don't know why, but, I am now craving a good old milkshake.

[@DeamonChocobo]

Soundwave was the original Breastforce, nobody can change my mind.

[@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716]

He doesn't have boobs to be breastforce

[@the_transformers_fan]

😂😂

[@DeamonChocobo]

@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 Soundwave had at least 18 cassettes stored in his chest and you dare question his booba?

[@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716]

@@DeamonChocobo more like 18 breast implants

[@EJFreelancer]

Chris: “…back to the Japanese side of the world of the Transformers.” Me: “Ah, so this will either be surprisingly awesome, or translation and culture will make it hilariously cringey.” And boy howdy, this episode did not disappoint on either count.

[@GinraiPrime666]

Transformers Victory is awesome and always deserves more appreciation!

[@EJFreelancer]

@@GinraiPrime666 Agreed!

[@ChaosCounseling]

Thank you so much for covering my favorite combiner

[@ariaformae]

Great vid! I’d love to see one of these for Override, she was one of my favourite characters in Transformers Cybertron

[@thomascollette4498]

This should be in your obscure caricter month Playlist

[@Protosilver97]

Timelines Seprpent O.R. (based on the GI Joe character) could do a good stand-in for Deathcobra, especially the IDW version.

[@tannerprice2018]

Love Chris’ unfortunate sigh as he had to say the word “Breastforce,” as if he’s like “Ugh, people are gonna make jokes in the comments non-stop about this…”

[@handle69420cheese]

I kept misreading their name as 'Beastforce' instead but that could unironically work as a new name as well (considering their whole animal theme) lol

[@Calaburst]

So cool, I still need to get the Victory DVD collection to truly enjoy these characters!

[@ETBowser]

I love these guys. Thought it was cool that Leozack was the Starscream to Deathsaurus' Megatron, but Hellbat wound up being the biggest meddler of them all. They were all a bunch of backstabbers.

[@twistedwither9190]

I have been waiting for this for so long thank you so much for making this! 😊

[@brandonandcharlene9527]

LioKsiser is hands down one of my favorite Combiners. I'd love to see more encounters with them and other combiners like Superion, Bruticus etc. Also, Im one of the few that actually liked the CW toy, but if Hasbro/TT actually developed alternate deluxe versions of Leozack and Jagullar to form the body, and the limbs would still work, I'd definitely get them.

[@benc.delacruz1813]

7:10-7:33 Great work on this oddly-named team’s history aside, I find it interesting that Gigatron is just Armada Megatron’s design given his own individual character. I just find that neat.

[@ChrisMcFeely]

That's RID Megatron, rather than Armada. "Gigatron" was that character's original Japanese name, so using it was a way for them to incorporate the character into the comics without a name conflict!

[@benc.delacruz1813]

@@ChrisMcFeely Ah, my bad! Got my Megs mixed up. That is still a cool factoid, though.

[@LordProteus]

If they ever merge the characters with modern transformers media, the "Chestforce" for lack of a solid name at this point, could come from the same colony planet as all those Animal themed Decepticons that still turned into Vehicles from RiD, the ones who were held on the prison ship Alcamor. That is one way they could explain the oddness of those Animal Decepticons from that series and leave the door open for such a concept if any future TF writers wanted to use it and bring back any of the RiD Alcamor Prisoners as-is rather than having to re-design them to fit. Steeljaw and Thunderhoof are probably enjoyed exactly as they are, so fans of the characters would probably dislike their designs being changed. I know I got off topic there but the out-of-placeness of the RiD Animal Decepticons always bugged me, so I always wanted to give them a proper explanation on why they are like that, and the Breast Force really fit the bill, given that they are Animal themed Decepticons who still oddly turn into vehicles.

[@johngrady8375]

I think a good alternative name for the group could be "The Six Pack" in reference to their number, animal partners, and chest motif

[@battleupsaber462]

I believe Metrodome's subtitles for Victory spelt the team's name as "Brestforce" as it was "less giggle-inducing".

[@bsybilly]

I really do hope that there will be either Legacy line or MPG release of Lio Kaiser soon...

[@moomanchu608]

I got the TFC Hades 3rd party version recently. Looks dope af. In fact its on my desk right now

[@NotKazuraMiller1557]

Guyhawk is like Vamp from MGS2 and 4 He shoots ice knifes like Vamp.

[@aidenmb7932]

Idk how it took me this long, but i only just learned he was a decepticon

[@angryspork610]

Seems to me "Shield Force" would work. Though perhaps that makes them sound too heroic for Decepticons.

[@angryspork610]

Hey, fake Chris McFeely that keeps replying: Don't reply to me, or to anyone. Stop being a scam artist.

[@cobaltprime9467]

Even “Chest Force” would have sounded better Edit: Oh and they did lol But a better name I can think of is the “Lio Force” or “Kaiser Squad.”

[@chrisneustaedter6788]

Nice video about characters I've never heard before. But I kind of wish the next video would be about an Autobot again.

[@ixiahj]

I remember watching the anime. Hellbat was my favorite. He was a funny character. There were times when I felt sorry for him because the situation just didn't go his way.