Christian says humanists shouldn't have marriage rights. Kate Smurthwaite gives an amazing response.

[@cseguin]

Mr. Adeuyi is the exact kind of theist I cannot stand . . . pompous, arrogant, emotionally-driven, willingly and happily ignorant . . . wow . . . he sure likes to spout a lot of advice about mockery and respect - I guess that's because he ain't using it himself.

[@cseguin]

TheCausation Sadly, yes, it does . . . le sigh.

[@roder51]

TheCausation Black guy's cute and needs a good fuck up the you know what. Wouldn't be difficult. He's pretty gullible. Bend over bitch!

[@bgmac1219]

TheCausation wow, you must talk to a good many people if you can attest to the views of 'most Atheists'...regardless, people like this man deserve to be mocked, it helps the layman see (such) religious people for who they are, and for the religious themselves, 1 Peter 4:14, their god told them it would happen. everybody wins.

[@ItsNotRealLife]

How can anybody be arrogant about not believing in something?

[@88slime40]

Woody Rooper how the fuck are atheists arrogant? You people are the ones claiming you know exactly how the universe came to be, while atheists are humble in saying "idk but i dont think a supernatural being poofed it into existence" you sir, are an idiot.

[@ozskipper]

Weddings/marriages were around a long time before Christianity existed!

[@FiatVoluntasTuaAmen]

Correct......Adam and Eve for example. What is your point?

[@ozskipper]

@@FiatVoluntasTuaAmen Well. Adam and eve never existed.. We know that. But the chinese were getting married way before christianity started.. Indians, Romans, Inuits, Peruvians and more.. Civilisations all over the planet had marriage.. Christianity doesnt own the rights to it.

[@FiatVoluntasTuaAmen]

@@ozskipper Ah you missed the point I was making. My point Adam and Eve is that they are an example of a married couple in a book called Genesis which pre-dates Christianity by several thousand years, yet is still considered canon by the Christian church. This shows that Christianity does not make the claim that marriage did not exist before Christianity. Why did you think Christians make that claim? Also as a side point - what evidence do you have that Adam did not exist?

[@ozskipper]

@@FiatVoluntasTuaAmen Ah.. I understand you now.. Yes. It certainly does predate christianity. But it is a part of the christian mythology though.

[@FiatVoluntasTuaAmen]

@Bipolar Bear Oh ok, so you must also be skeptical of evolution by natural selection then right? Millions of different classes, geni, species, races, cultures all originating from bacteria? Humour too, literature, music, the study of science, knowledge of God - this all stems from single celled organisms right? Animals with equally fully formed and functioning eyeballs but some some have legs, others have wings and some have fins? Random mutations in birds and reptiles *just happened* to evolved the eyeball in exactly the same way? Ok so land animals have eyeballs because fish evolved into animals - even though fish still exist - but which fish evolved through natural selection by attempting to come ashore then suffocate and die? Is that not absurd? Perhaps you have more to to think about on this topic?

[@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer]

"They wanna force it down our throats." That's your projection speaking my dude.

[@selkiemaine]

"If we're evolving, what are we evolving to?" ... Clearly not you.

[@mrlawilliamsukwarmachine4904]

It was a good question. An answer would be that post-industrial revolution, Darwinian death-by-stupidity has been eradicated. Medicine and the welfare state have caused humanity to negatively evolve. Rather than survival of the fittest, society is clearly unfit, with fat ugly people having kids, and the least intelligent having large families. We will only have genetics of strength if the parents are gym goers, rather than people requiring day to day strength to survive. I foresee and think it’s already happened that human hands are evolving around the smartphone. Eyes evolving to focus at distance-to-phone screen. As for mating, that’s gone. Unnatural hair colours, tattoos and piercings, talking with croaky ‘vocal fry’...are aposematic. Then there’s dating apps, ivf, abortion. Reproduction will be thru websites, dna samples and surrogacy or even cloning. Then there’s porn and masturbatory gadgets and the normalisation of prostitution. Coming up is humanoid, part body and full-body silicone robotics. Domestically and in the workplace robotics (ie humanoid) hasn’t had as much impact as expected, as we just use single-purpose white goods or contract out the work cheaply. Eg dish-washer.

[@thewordforever4839]

@@mrlawilliamsukwarmachine4904 C.S Lewis had an insight into this. He reckoned that the next step in our evolution was to find a way to live eternally. That was done by conforming our lives to the word of God. It makes sense.

[@w.8424]

@@thewordforever4839 that's rubbish

[@peterloman7250]

@@thewordforever4839 Not even if there were gods...

[@pete1759]

@@thewordforever4839 I agree. The Flying Spaghetti Monster promises eternal life!

[@ArkaidynSenpaii]

That guy made my blood boil, he spent his whole time insulting calling them ignorant, hedonists, immoral, evil, rude etc Then proceeds to lie & interrupt them whilst they are speaking, ugh why can people just not be assholes >.

[@un2mensch]

Is Taiwo Adeuyi an audience plant, put there to represent the most stupid of religious views? If so, it was a very efficient move.

[@Othelbark]

Religious extremism is often indistinguishable from parody of itself.

[@intellix]

Poe's law.

[@theorex8621]

@@Othelbark lol

[@FactStorm]

All religious views, by default, are stupid.

[@Funaru]

Taiwo Adeuyi must have been indoctrinated from early childhood onwards. I've met my fair share of evangelical fundamentalist nuts but he sure is more narrow-minded than most of them.

[@stephenrowley4171]

In my experience it's one who find God later on are by far the worse

[@Funaru]

Yes that may be true. It doesn't have to be childhood indoctrination, it can also be an utter lack of critical faculties combined with very wide intellectual blinders.

[@georgejob7544]

This ignoramus won't allow this lady to talk buts in to browbeat! Bigotted nasty creature!

[@lDrownded2]

I haven't had a religious nut piss me off this much since Charlie Hebdo and its aftermath. Something that Christians need to know: 1. English Common Law and The US Constitution are not based on the Bible. If they don't believe this, they need to do a compare and contrast between laws set down in the Bible and the relevant documents. For Americans it's easy: 1st Commandment in The Decalogue: "I am the LORD thy God. Thou shalt have no other gods before me." 1st Amendment to the US Constitution: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." 2. Marriage as a legal institution existed before the Bible and didn't originate in the Bible. 3. The Bible isn't a historical document; it's literature that uses heavily mythologized history as a basis for its fiction like the works of Homer. I recommend that anyone who doubts this read "The Bible Unearthed". It also give abundant examples of religious people obscuring history due to their religious assumptions about history. 4. The Bible isn't an original document. It has borrowed from every culture that its writers have been enslaved by, wandered through or attempted to convert. Easter and Christmas are based on earlier, pagan, holidays. 5. "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick. Humans are incapable of viewing reality objectively. The only reliable way of working around this is the scientific method. The "I grew up with this." and "This gives me happyfeelings." methods are significantly less reliable.

[@tamsinmccormick]

I like that -"significantly less reliable" it is the dressed up version of what I tend to use which is "all religions are primitive claptrap" .!! There are no gods - enjoy your life is my maxim . Also to me Humanism is Athesim in practice.

[@zioshi2]

Marc Norton charlie hebdo, 12 people were gunned down by terrorists just because they drew a funny cartoon of mohammed, that same week, boko haram-the baga massacre. If charlie hebdo pissed you off the most since now then you sir are ignorant. i appreciate atheists but being an atheistic anti theist myself what pisses me off more is the ignorance of the things happening in africa, the only reason they haven't been broadcasted is because there's no profit in sharing the news of africans as compared to those of europeans and americans.

[@lDrownded2]

Vickrant James hyperbole--noun, Rhetoric1.obvious and intentional exaggeration. 2.an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally, as “to wait an eternity.” or "I haven't had a religious nut piss me off this much since Charlie Hebdo"

[@zioshi2]

Marc Norton my bad.

[@lDrownded2]

No probs. Other than the me being ignorant part, you're right. Ignorance of other parts of the world allows people to maintain their false notions of national and sometimes racial superiority.

[@patrickkanne]

Funny how the one guy claiming to have full dibs on that "respect" thing, is the one guy who has a really hard time letting anyone finish their sentence... Interesting how he's also the overtly religious guy... Almost like there's some correlation..

[@nordy2010]

Sorry, Taiwo, but you absolutely deserved to be laughed at for the crap you were saying. You have exactly ZERO evidence for your beliefs, so they're no better than saying that you genuinely believe that Voldemort will rise again.

[@scottb5501]

I don't think that's very funny to joke about I take those kind of comments very seriously I just can't believe somebody would joke about something as serious as Voldemort rising again.

[@nordy2010]

Brandon B My apologies, sir. He-who-must-not-be-named is gone for good. ;)

[@scottb5501]

I know.... I know he is but we must never forget

[@FiatVoluntasTuaAmen]

Harry Potter is a Christian story written by a Christian author. It is heavily inspired by the Gospel story. So it is no wonder you would find similarities. The fact that you point this out as a potential argument against belief in Christianity only goes to prove that you ought to do a lot more research into this topic! Oh and you will remember it was Harry Potter who rose from the dead, not Voldemort. Harry Potter gives himself up to death for the sake of his friends and the whole world in order to destroy the ultimate force of evil. He dies, goes to heaven and then returns to life to find evil is destroyed. Jesus gave himself up for all of us in order to destroy the ultimate evil of original sin.

[@kumaaraanderson234]

@@FiatVoluntasTuaAmen, OK, you have persuaded me. 😲

[@Supremerob20]

If the earth's round, why don't things fall off the bottom?

[@drunkcatphil9911]

Gravity

[@blancaroca8786]

Wow! There is no bottom! The earth is a ball in space, where the is no up or down. Gravity pulls toward the earth and it gets strongest near the surface. Science education in the UK sucks too often for such an advanced place.

[@lDrownded2]

Summing up the religious mind set: "Anything I can't understand or don't like isn't true."

[@tamsinmccormick]

If it isn't in the bible is isn't true !! A very dangerous assertion .

[@tigerfly3967]

I'm all for people who live a spiritually. Most of them are mentally healthy, and happier about life in general. Religion, however, is a virus. I don't like it.

[@FiatVoluntasTuaAmen]

@@tamsinmccormick Good job it is a massive strawman argument then isn't it haha.

[@Kadrik73]

Children are protected from drugs, sex, weapons and politics. They can learn about it, but not make use/practice as they are not considered mature enough. I propose we apply the same principle to religion. How on earth can religious indoctrination be considered a human right?

[@Yatukih_001]

Stop protecting them from weapons and start teaching them to use them...

[@sudo_nym]

'''Faith is the abandonment of reason'' - Christopher Hitchens (RIP)

[@troyroberts4196]

Evolution is the abandonment of reason.

[@mjowsey]

@@troyroberts4196 evolution is why you are here

[@FactStorm]

@@troyroberts4196 You need to grow up and get an education

[@dantist32]

OMG is that the atheist bitchslap lady!?!? I LOVE her!

[@deadasfak]

That dude kills any discussion. He's a brick wall that talks over you.

[@lsobrien]

That Christian is literally insane.

[@jayc1139]

I don't think the African guy can stand the fact...the idea...that people can actually be kind, caring, and giving without HIS god and HIS bible and HIS jesus... He's rude constantly interrupting her when he doesn't like something he hears, but everyones quiet when he speaks, he needs to learn the cultures manners.

[@firstname-gq5yr]

Aww bless. They called her a comedian. That's funnier than she's ever been

[@leewhite344]

I love Kate Smurthwaite!!! Religious people can really piss me off!

[@paulbottomley42]

That poor man is clearly unburdened by an overabundance of education.

[@lainet]

I was so pleased to see that the reaction of the audience to Taiwo Adeuyi's nonsense was laughter! That is the only proper response. I've seen too many videos where stuff like that gets silently accepted out of respect thus making it appear that such idiotic statements make sense.

[@stephencollins9062]

Bot account comment.

[@j11994466s]

Taiwo Adewuyi seems to have progressed. He has moved from stone age to bronze age.

[@davidboden5791]

I hate humanism. Who agrees ?

[@notapplicable1282]

"if we're evolving, what're we evolving to?" If there's a god with a plan, what's the plan?

[@vitaurea]

@@Christ_saves_sinners not meant to hate on you. but why not do it ina n instant? if god can see the future, then he can and probably already would determine the outcome of a person, wether he will be good, bad or in between. why not do it now?

[@LifeOfRy]

Saundra Monroe why aren’t you a Muslim?

[@alpaige4997]

Create a world full of humans who can't help but sin and then condemn them all to eternal torment, apparently

[@catfishdogfish4805]

@@alpaige4997 u dono da wae, apparently

[@peterloman7250]

@@Christ_saves_sinners Your answer sure is insulting and irrational, not to mention the sick human sacrifice you seem to celebrate...

[@intellix]

"What are we evolving into?" bravo, this is the most astounding ignorance I have heard in a long time.

[@timothyhowson2775]

The look on Andrew Copson`s face when Adewuyi was preaching spoke more words than any preacher could. Utter disbelief.

[@drrsundarraj]

People of this era take the literal meanings of verses of scriptures and come to wrong conclusions about what god is. God is a mechanism that converts an idea into an action in seven stages. Atheism, Agnosticism, Deism, Humanism, Secularism, etc. Have one thing in common. They are all based on Manual / Voluntary force. The Manual force is controllable, small and transient. It de-links the activity executed with it from rest of the activities of life. Thus, it is ideally suited for violating the rules of the society. Thus, with this force you just create an illusion that you too are following rules.

[@blancaroca8786]

How hypercritical for that religious guy to say that humanists force stuff down people's throats! Humanists do not use force nor war nor threats of hellfire which most religions have done for millennia. Then he says humanists are trying to copy ... But religion always copies from earlier religions or beliefs a ton.. for example virgin birth and ressurection were well popular in ancient Egyptian mythologies as is well known history.

[@pacificbob24]

I find it hard to believe that in 2015 this issue was even up for discussion. I think Taiwo Adewuji was there just to create controversy where there wasn't any.

[@Riskiamo]

The only amazing thing about Kate Smurthwaite is how unfunny she is as a comedian, and how biased she is as a human being.

[@3e32b05]

YES

[@rstevewarmorycom]

The only think amazing about you is how bloody fucking stupid you are!!

[@Noisemansoundinsect]

rstevewarmorycom because what you think is intelligent and what anyone who disagrees is stupid

[@rustyh1686]

She is a feminist not a comedian, as a feminist/comedian is an oxymoron.

[@smooth_sundaes5172]

Adeuyi is representative of the wall of Christian ignorance (willful or indoctrinated) that inhibits a reasoned discussion.

[@jonjenkins]

That has & still does inhibit human progress- I was amazed how an articulate seemingly intelligent young man could express such nonsense - A textbook case of cognitive dissonance- He must’ve have been seriously indoctrinated with Religious dogma from a very young age, to an extent that could be considered child abuse mentally & subject to Legal prosecution

[@Longtack55]

"I'm not happy with Humanists being allowed to suck air." (Forcing themselves on me.) Keep digging mate.

[@ali------8649]

The guys IQ is sub-zero

[@rhondah1587]

I love to see Taiwo travel to NY and spend one day with Neil deGrasse Tyson and the next day at the natural history museum with any biologist/zoologist. Then, rinse and repeat until reality sinks in.

[@tamsinmccormick]

I like that - He would get in quite a lather first of course so it would be the full hair wash instructions - lather , rinse , repeat. !!

[@KnakuanaRka]

rstevewarmorycom it’s bigoted jackouts like you that give the rest of us a bad name.

[@rstevewarmorycom]

K1naku5ana3R1ka No, I'm not a racist, but people who think like him should be killed immediately.

[@FactStorm]

I'm afraid his likes are far too indoctrinated to function.

[@cbak12sg]

I wish they would find someone less strident than Kate Smurthwaite for The Big Questions. Why don't they try to get Tracie Harris from The Atheist Experience?

[@doyouknoworjustbelieve6694]

It’s amazing to see a black person defend Christianity.

[@FiatVoluntasTuaAmen]

You sound a little bit racist

[@ruthreis4998]

Should put people with depression to talk to this christian, because he must be a great humorist, because everything he says becomes a laughing matter😐

[@sheezamann2724]

did he just say....force down peoples throats.....is he completely serious?

[@alif8884]

Force down people's throats? How ironic.

[@Marchawc]

The Bible, or any other cultural "holy book" for that matter, is no more than a collection of fantasies, wishes and superstitions in story book form. Nowadays, we really should recognize the nostalgic nod that we give it and acknowledge that we've moved on. Seriously, grown-ups still believing in magic is just silly.

[@jackkraken3888]

Oh damn

[@gowdsake7103]

Taiwo Adewuyi sums up closed minded shit perfectly

[@Hugh_de_Mortimer]

An argument between the ignorant shines no light.

[@Yoctopory]

Sometimes some people like this christian ask questions that instantly identify them as someone who does NOT understand evolution at all.

[@Stevieboy130664]

The arrogance of a lot of religious viewpoints.

[@Kiah1995]

Y’all I’ve never been approached by an atheist or humanist but I have been with a Muslim, Christian and Jehovah’s Witness. That tells you something.

[@LifeOfRy]

Please bear in mind the black gentleman gives lectures to other credulous people who will potentially (and likely) be indoctrinated to believe the same bespoke babble that he does. We have to stamp this idiocy out of society before it’s too late, we really do.

[@FactStorm]

Religion - a vicious cycle of indoctrination and stupidity.

[@LifeOfRy]

@@FactStorm I would say preach it to the choir, but that seems counterproductive.

[@CosmicD]

what is it with black religious people oppressing or being offended by other's rights ? I mean don't you see the irony dripping off of that ?

[@stephenmason5682]

Never underestimate an idiot at being foolish? They have no limits!

[@esthercharalambous2865]

Incredible. How a christian believes they only have human rights. How Christian is that?

[@Extremefighters]

I understand why they are laughing at him. If I had to sit in a room and hear the nonsense coming out of his mouth, I'd laugh too. It's not disrespectful to laugh at stupidity.

[@cycophile]

The shame isn't in the ignorant bigots here, the shame is how many intelligent people have to waste their time putting them in check instead of doing greatness.

[@xerox1959]

Listening to Taiwo Adewuyi - that person: it is the year 1015 isn't it?

[@leonardotaylhardat96]

I could sadly say that at least 90% of people in my country are like Taiwo Adeuyi

[@petesmith5686]

This is the first debate I've seen where Kate Smurthwaite isn't the dumbest person in the room.

[@3e32b05]

the first and the last

[@FactStorm]

She's good against theocrats, but is a woke leftist when it comes to politics. I am liberal-minded, and detest both conservative religious right wingers, and the far left.

[@lolugothackedful]

The BBC’s The Big Questions. Is a dreadful “ethics” show that sits awkwardly positioned between the political discussion programs on a Sunday morning. In case you haven’t seen it, the format is basically Question Time, with an added audience It’s absolutely dreadful, arguably the worst thing that the BBC airs. It has production values you’d expect from an amateur You Tube video and is presented by Nicky Campbell, a man who displays no charisma whatsoever Both of those things feed into its complete lack of appeal, but are not in the final analysis the reason it’s so bad. What undermines the show is its total contempt for everyone and everything involved. First off, it’s called The Big Questions, and attempts, with the aid of a few invited guests and a panel of random members of the public, to answer genuinely serious matters of philosophy, politics and religion. This series, they asked “Can war ever be just?”. In the past they’ve discussed “Is there a Hell?” and “Is man’s dominion good for the planet?” The idea that issues of this magnitude can be discussed in soundbites by “the man in the street”, plus a panel of people fame hungry and desperate enough to go on TV early Sunday morning is ludicrous in itself. Frankly, I don’t want to hear the feminist comedian Kate Smurtwaite’s views on weighty, intellectual topics such as the existence of God. Even if they could get decent guests (which they can’t) you can’t get the same effect in twenty minutes with twenty people shouting over each other. Even more ridiculous, they’ll usually pack two topics in one episode, presumably because allowing more than twenty minutes of discussion of the same thing would make the audience’s brains explode. Proper, challenging intellectual discussion can be done in broadcast. Look at the 1940s BBC show The Brains Trust, where they invited in a panel of experts and - shock horror - just let them talk about big issues. I can’t say it would be improved by letting a celebrity chef interrupt them. In contrast, The Big Questions format is just terminally broken - answers to these points, by definition, are too big and complicated I - and you can’t articulate a complex, position in a 30-second soundbite. Every time someone is able to articulate a decent argument, Campbell just jumps in and cuts them off, and hands the mic to someone who will make a crazier, more televisual point. That takes me on to the second huge problem with the show. Often, the guests - especially the religious guests - are picked because they have “controversial” meaning completely mad views. The archetypal Big Questions exchange is some crazed street preacher claiming they can cure cancer through prayer, a confused scientist saying “No you can’t”, and then a female Coffee vicar or a rabbi with a nose piercing cutting across the two to say “Isn't the truth half way between these two places?”, and then the audience applauding. . The problem with this is twofold. First off, there’s the whole false equivalence between extreme and rational views, which is a problem with BBC debate more generally. Secondly, and perhaps more importantly, it makes religious people look unfairly crazy. In one of the supposedly flagship shows on religion, religious people are frequently represented by the absolute fringes. The vast bulk of people with religious faith in their lives are perfectly sensible and ordinary - you’d have to look long and hard to find a priest, vicar or imam who would recommend prayer alone to cure illnesses. The desire among the producers for “watchable controversy” makes the show completely unrepresentative and absurd So, in short, the only real big question The Big Questions asks is “How long can you air an utterly charmless, insulting show before everyone agrees to stop tuning in and turning off.

[@marcpadilla1094]

Humanists,Christians,Muslims, mind your business. Expand on begging the question on God,faith,and values. Look how passionate they are already to challenge each other.

[@Swidhelm]

She drops the mike and walks off stage.

[@havenbastion]

The Christian doesn't even know how to ask meaningful questions.

[@GenomancerBot]

Anyone got a link to a full show? Would love to see how this goes.

[@MisleadingCowman]

Any luck on getting that link to full show ?

[@user-uv7ig7vl2s]

The show isn't in the bible, thus it doesn't exist.

[@evilrslade]

The guy has his say, uninterrupted. Then speaks over the woman giving her view. Religion in a nutshell. It can't suffer to be challenged, lest people see it for what it is.

[@SiriusTattoo]

Is this guy some kind of big name in apologetic? It seems like he's using a lot of terms in the wrong context and he's really showing his complete lack of knowledge on what it means to be humanist and on how evolution actually works. I mean, disagreeing is fine, but you need to know what you're disagreeing with. This guy just seems like an opinionated guy they picked off the street that likes to randomly use a lot of religious buzzwords.

[@tamsinmccormick]

That bloke is not happy about Humanism because it is the direct counter to his own moneymaking religious ideas and Humanism will lose him donations. Check his web site to see his direction !!

[@celineztromp]

I completely understand where she's coming from

[@xoxrebelxox571]

Does this mean we dont need love because we do not belive in god? We give love to others...

[@jr_1742]

‘Humanist doctrine’ well that conversation ended quickly...

[@FactStorm]

Exactly, it amazes me how religious nuts think humanism/atheism/skepticism/agnostic positions are dogmas hahaha

[@jr_1742]

@@FactStorm You don’t know me, but I thank you because you just sent me into a rabbit hole where I binged a few videos on this topic from this channel and from a few others. Some seriously funny content.

[@mistercurmudgeon7353]

I believe people have been marrying long before christianity existed have christians culturally misappropriated the marriage ceremony?

[@ADMusic1999]

He has a problem with them teaching kids to be kind to one another whether they believe in a specific deity or not which is what humanism teaches. As nature shows, humans are evolving to become more caring and accepting of one another even within the past hundred years. The Bible has stayed the same while humanity has moved on - whether this guy likes it or not.

[@julesburton4649]

I'll insult his god if he wants me to .

[@leagillact-o-graphy1690]

That poor black guy! No one was backing up his bums...! They said all sorts of religions and vies should be tolerated, so why ridicule him because he expresses his Christian views? That didn't make sense no matter whether you believe in demons and all the stuff he mentioned. And since when can a view that states God didn't exist be called a religion? Doesn't make sense, either! So if the humanist view doesn't makes sense why should we believe in it?! Just my thoughts...

[@titteryenot4524]

Smurthwaite (noun): *one who takes offence on behalf of others who may not be offended in the first place.* Example: ‘Jeez. I was a right Smurthwaite yesterday. I was offended on behalf of a black, lesbian vegetarian and Joan Armatrading wasn’t bothered at all!’

[@etsme4959]

Andrew C's face at @1:01....wtf!??

[@rodshop5897]

Taiwo is very rude with his constant interrupting. Of course, that was noteworthy in 2015, but it seems now that good manners have gone the way of rotary phones. I know, it's my small death to mourn.

[@FactStorm]

Deranged Nigerian Christian - what a shocker!

[@Baz74]

Lol!!! This black dude needs his own comedy show

[@stephenmason5682]

What are we evolving to? Is he serious? Does he understand Tom?

[@trueheart8739]

The FOOL has said in his heart, there is no God!

[@divergentintegral3475]

No, the fool is the one who believes in the divinity of a 2000 year old book, written by Bronze Age peasants who didn't know the Earth orbited the Sun

[@FactStorm]

Imagine being so stupid as to believe in talking snakes, messiahs and prophecies..just imagine.

[@wecanworkthisout7834]

it's mean of me to say this BUT, to buy into a religious doctrine with out questioning it, you can't be very bright, and this guy proves it. STOP FEEDING HIM LINES NICKEY.

[@equalitystateofmind5412]

Historical value of the Bible? The nation comprised of its authors' descendants says the Bible has little, if any, historical value. That's your first clue right there.

[@tamsinmccormick]

The bible's value is literary just like the Greek and Roman myths . And don't forget the Celtic and Norse myths . They all use the same devices and similar stories.

[@equalitystateofmind5412]

Tamsin Mc Cormick Plus, the Greeks and the Vikings had much cooler stories attached to their pantheons.

[@tamsinmccormick]

Equals Four I don't know where I heard it but the Greek gods where people you could relate to because they exhibited HUMAN qualities and faults. They could get things wrong and apologise or give rewards for good deeds , they didn't know everything and couldn't be everywhere . But when you read the bible look to Richard Dawkins for the description of the Jewish/Christian god !!

[@equalitystateofmind5412]

Tamsin Mc Cormick True. Yahweh comes off exactly the same in character as Zeus and Hera, only lonelier and more childish.

[@tamsinmccormick]

Equals Four The greek gods weren't so bad as they had wives and children so ordinary people could relate to them more easily.

[@oscarohman685]

"What are we evolving to?" asks the religious man. Well, who knows? Perhaps scientists have an answer for that?

[@mjowsey]

We seem to be evolving away from all forms of religion.

[@FactStorm]

@@mjowsey Slowly, too bad I wont experience it in my lifetime. Our species is so primitive and gullible

[@YY4Me133]

Some christians in the U.S. have a similar agenda. Oklahoma State Rep., Republican Todd Russ, wants to limit marriage to christians: _Oklahoma State Rep. Todd Russ has a solution to the pesky problem of gays trying to get married: outlawing secular marriage altogether._ _Russ says he wants to "protect" court clerks from doing their jobs and providing marriage licenses to same-sex couples, which they've been legally able to do since October. Under his proposal, marriage certificates could be signed only by a religious official, who would then pass the certificate along to the clerk. Judges could no longer perform legal marriages._ _While couples who didn't have a religious official handy could still qualify for a common law marriage, this still means only church-sanctioned relationships could be legally, formally recognized._ _"Marriages are not supposed to be a government thing anyway," he said Wednesday._ _Russ, a credentialed Assemblies of God minister, is upset with rulings that have supported same-sex marriage._ - - www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/01/23/oklahoma-rep-proposes-dodging-marriage-equality-by-outlawing-secular-marriage-licenses/

[@tamsinmccormick]

Well he's a doof then !! AOG ? aren't they pentecostal which is the hard core version of christianity . They are seriously dangerous !!

[@YY4Me133]

Tamsin Mc Cormick I don't know anything about AOG, but if Todd Russ is typical, they are very dangerous, indeed.

[@tamsinmccormick]

YY4Me133 In the UK we have AOG and Elim Pentecostal and they are both rubbish mongers, I used to hang out with a gang of them in Liverpool - Complete idiots all of them - avoid !! There is no god - enjoy your life . We don't really want god-bothery in the UK . There isn't that much really but religion still gets a lot of TV coverage - that has to stop.

[@YY4Me133]

Tamsin Mc Cormick I think that education is the key, especially teaching critical thinking from a very early age. Of course, that's why religious fundamentalists are against education and the teaching of critical thinking, so it's an uphill battle.

[@tamsinmccormick]

YY4Me133 You Got that Right !! It would be easier to train Bears to use Toilets !!

[@armlovesmetal1036]

Set me free your heaven's a lie!!!

[@purestqi]

It’s so weird to me to see black Christians. Lol

[@ItsNotRealLife]

Florecita Dantor: Me too, it's the religion of their slave masters that was extremely forced and cruelly enforced upon them

[@FiatVoluntasTuaAmen]

There are 685 million Christians in Africa. That is more Christians in Africa than on any other continent in the world. So it ought not be weird to you.

[@FactStorm]

@@FiatVoluntasTuaAmen All a result of colonialism and indoctrination.

[@FiatVoluntasTuaAmen]

@@FactStorm Are you sure you are 100% correct about that? What makes you think that Christianity started to spread in Africa during the colonial period?

[@bryanleigh6497]

First time I agreed with Kate lol

[@nezmustafa4271]

Kate Smurthwaite is as bad as the Theists.

[@ZimZam131]

I would question whether or not if that guy was actually a Christian. He was probably pretending just so he could present super weak strawman arguments.

[@FactStorm]

All Christians weak arguments, you wouldn't adhere to the dogma if you didnt

[@stevesobot9414]

Kate Smurthwaite is smart, articulate & polite. She also expresses sensible views.

[@3e32b05]

i agree with none of what you said but whatevs you do you

[@blackfoot5527]

there you can debate for days or years

[@dusthat]

Genesis 16 1 Now Sarai, Abram's wife, had borne him no children. But she had an Egyptian maidservant named Hagar; 2 so she said to Abram, "The LORD has kept me from having children. Go, sleep with my maidservant; perhaps I can build a family through her." Abram agreed to what Sarai said.

[@tamsinmccormick]

I like that . Its a bit like the IVF we have today without the I and the V . or perhaps it was the beginning of the idea of surogacy . Well he did say that Humanists were lifting ideas from the bible.

[@silver4831]

Tamsin Mc Cormick Its nothing to do with IVF. Its simply the Husband sleeping with his female slaves to get a child.

[@tamsinmccormick]

Alexae B Read my post again !! Do you know what the F stands for in IVF ?? In fact do you know what IVF stands for ?

[@silver4831]

Tamsin Mc Cormick In vitro "in glass".

[@tamsinmccormick]

Alexae B And now the F !! But hey don't bother because explaining a joke someone doesn't get is just tiresome .

[@charlesr.5718]

AMazIng REsPonSe

[@forbiddenuniverse618]

humanists are what you call ordinary people with ordinary dreams and have no need for this higher judgmental being to guide them

[@larrybarnhill572]

Will these people just go extinct already ?

[@lucasduerink6262]

She is indeed a comedian because she can only say meaningless stupid funny things

[@ravenhopkins347]

You aren't teaching people that their is no god, you just aren't teaching people their is a god. Teaching evolution is teaching fact, when people say it's just a theory it's ignorance. The scientific definition of theory is fact that can be altered due to new findings. Religion is a doctrine that teaches everyone not to believe other things while science is open to new ideas and is willing to change due to facts and research we find and do. Good day sir

[@michaelhenwood4046]

Is this guy serious?

[@mintykawaii6487]

I can't stand Kate smurthwaite. That aside, I didn't realize there was a humanist doctrine. Lol

[@KnakuanaRka]

There shouldn’t be; you’re right in saying she gives other humanists a bad name. www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/statement-of-principles/

[@RivellaLight]

"Humanist doctrine" Hilarious, coming from that guy xD Religion is nothing but doctrine to subvert the mentally challenged.

[@FiatVoluntasTuaAmen]

This view can be thoroughly disproved in a matter of seconds

[@clearlake3492]

Okay, the guy's crazy, but isn't he a good looking feller?

[@fabianpadilla5108]

it's honestly SAD that you can grow up to be his age and NEVER understand how evolution works...like he never bothered to google it? or just never understood it?? either way it's fucking sad

[@canderson1955]

He had to be a plant didn’t he?