Christian tries to convince college students God is real.

[@gabrielacevedo4932]

He may not have accepted there...he'd have to admit he was wrong in front of all those people. But at least a seed was planted. Let's pray it grows and yields a great crop!

[@downenout8705]

Intercessory prayer has been demonstrated not to work, but that shouldn't stop us hoping that the seed of doubt planted in this apologetic preacher's mind will grow and yield a great crop.

[@shaunhunterit342]

@@downenout8705 it's not possible to demonstrate that intercessory prayer doesn't work. In order to prove that, you would have to know what God intended to do, and prove that this didn't change, which is completely beyond what we could know.

[@downenout8705]

@@shaunhunterit342 Of course you can demonstrate that intercessory prayer doesn't work. It's a simple matter of statistics. I suggest that you look into the findings of the Templeton Foundation. Also there is a reason that being a Christian doesn't get cheaper insurance or health care, because no matter how hard they pray they fare no better in all walks of life than other faiths or no faith. A god that answers yes, no or maybe is indistinguishable from random chance. If you want to count the occasional "hits" as evidence of your god then you must also give equal weight to each of the countless "misses". Finally god supposedly knows in advance what it is going do, so no amount of prayer is going to change something that is all ready predetermined.

[@Grandmaster_Dragonborn]

@@downenout8705You’d also have to go round the billions of individuals who pray worldwide & find hard evidence their prayers weren’t answered.

[@downenout8705]

@@Grandmaster_Dragonborn You'd also have to go round the billions of individuals who pray worldwide & find hard evidence their prayers WERE answered by a god. I say again this is a matter of statistics and statistics show that intercessory prayer doesn't work.

[@backwoodsonthabeat7783]

Really sad how he doesn't care about his own salvation, please pray for him.

[@mattmiranda3427]

He sounds like me lol 😂🤣

[@scrumpymanjack]

Dude, we don't need salvation....salvation from what? You only need it if you believe in all of this stuff. But there's no reason to believe any of it because there is zero evidence to suggest it's true. End of story (and yes, it is just a story).

[@jeromedavis8575]

I will, and please pray for my fellow lumberjacks at SFASU here in Nacogdoches, Texas.

[@thundergato84]

Hail Satan. 😂

[@jeromedavis8575]

@@thundergato84 Jesus loves you.

[@basketbasket1225]

I love seeing someone break down what Christ did for us so simply for people who've never heard it. Amazing

[@downenout8705]

Oh, most people have heard it, they have just taken the trouble to read the ingredients of the snake oil that this apologist is selling and they (including me) aren't buying it.

[@hellooutsiders6865]

@@downenout8705 Why not?

[@downenout8705]

@@hellooutsiders6865 There is very little that I can say to someone who needs to ask why shouldn't someone buy "snake oil".

[@downenout8705]

@@snowboard7142 Who do you think "designed and created" snowflakes, the wicked witch of the north? Yep that makes perfect logical sense. Lol.

[@upenin7431]

​@@hellooutsiders6865There is nothing that you can say to someone who needs to ask why they shouldn't buy the snake oil.

[@nycularobinson9822]

Did you hear what they did to Jesus. Tears just flows. How could you. The first time I saw the passion at 16 I cried through the whole thing. How can you treat my Sovereign Saviour that way. ❤HE didn't get abused and killed for nothing. He ROSE from the grave with all power. Bless the Holy name of The Christ ❤

[@jeromedavis8575]

We need Jesus!

[@barryjooste6464]

Amen!!!

[@butkenp]

You know, it scares me when he says: "Hello, you are not listening."

[@joeneri2035]

Towards the end of this video his own ignorance is getting the best of the student but you can tell the spirit is compelling in him, moving in him. He knows this isn't your stand your ground in a regular debate he feels this is different.

[@stephenwhite3576]

Religion is man made.

[@joshuaballer12456]

This man is absolutely amazing!!! Holy Spirit speaking through him and he is spreading the so good. He is true blessing from God. That conversation was so amazing wow absolutely incredible

[@amberwoods3102]

Least he admitted he didn't care and he didn't want to believe... Suppression the Bible is always right.

[@jeromedavis8575]

And it's playing out in realtime.

[@ChiefCedricJohnson]

Proverbs 15:6 In the house of the righteous is much treasure: but in the revenues of the wicked is trouble.

[@chuckdriver8269]

Ivan can say whatever he wants but in his heart he knows God’s truth. Praying for Ivan. 🙏🏼

[@aantoine5819]

He admitted the truth, he just doesn’t care about God, but yes hopefully prayer works

[@andrewpepper8031]

Oh dear I am so worried.

[@BradCarlMusic]

Very sad

[@JesusisOurLordandSavior]

I pray the Holy Spirit gets a hold of his heart ♥️

[@jeromedavis8575]

I pray for the same thing.

[@jnsmill]

God made it so simple, it’s so sad that there few that find the way.

[@steventejeda]

Sounds like a narration of God speaking directly to the hearts of those that need to hear it 6:55

[@IsJesusGod.]

Albert Einstein, official 1921 Nobel Prize in Physics The following is an excerpt from an interview printed in The Saturday Evening Post, Oct. 26, 1929 entitled, “What Life Means to Einstein”… Q. To what extent are you influenced by Christianity? A. As a child I received instruction both in the Bible and in the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of the Nazarene. Q. Have you read Emil Ludwig’s book of Jesus? A. Emil Ludwig’s Jesus is shallow. Jesus is too colossal for the pen of phrasemongers, however artful. No man can dispose of Christianity with a bon mot. Q. Do you accept the historical existence of Jesus? A. Unquestionably! No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life. Blaise Pascal (1623-1662) World-renowned mathematician and philosopher ranked in the same class as Sir Isaac Newton. Introduced the first calculating machine, forerunner of the modern computer. The metric unit of measuring pressure, the Pascal, is named after him. The following is an excerpt from an interview printed in Great Books of the Western World, No. 33: Pascal left on record that he had come to know “the God of Abraham, God of Isaac and God of Jacob”, and that he “resolved total submission to Jesus the Messiah”. Pascal reached the conclusion that the only serious quest here on Earth was for God, and that the path to Him was charted in the Old Testament, the sign was posted in the New Testament, and the light that illuminated the path was his faith. This is the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear God and keep His Commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every deed into His judgment, together with every secret thing, whether it is good, or whether it is evil. [Eccl 12:13-14]

[@scrumpymanjack]

Where are you going with all of this irrelevant waffle? Some 17th century mathematician believed in God? So what? Everyone did back then. Einstein had a few words to say about Jesus? And? It doesn't prove he was the son of God. You really need to improve your line of argument. There is zero proof that God exists. Believe what you like but don't try to come across as rational.

[@IsJesusGod.]

@@scrumpymanjack Indisputable Evidence of The Bible. It is an indisputable fact, which is certain and unable to be challenged or denied. The fact that Non-believers prove the Bible. Because Non-believers confirm they do not believe in the Bible. When the Bible confirms most would not believe the Bible. Because Jesus said most would not believe Him or the Bible, or the truth of Him and the Bible. Proving the reliability of the Bible. Non-believers prove the Bible prophecies. Because there are many Bible prophecies throughout the Bible predicting most would not believe or follow the Bible. Non-believers are proving the Bible by fulfilling the Bible prophecies throughout the Bible. Making the Bible prophecies fulfilled. Non-believers are the clearest evidence of the Bible, who clearly demonstrates and establish the truth of the Bible. By Non-believers own unbelief of the Bible, Non-believers demonstrate beyond a doubt the accuracy of the Bible. Who said most would not believe the Bible? Sorry it was not me, but Jesus. Where? Here: O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee. John 17:25.

[@IsJesusGod.]

@@scrumpymanjack READ: The earliest validation confirming the gospels outside the Bible, By Thallus the (historian) Josephus on Jesus. Tacitus on Jesus? HOW GOD OVERTHREW THE SODOMITES FLAVIUS JOSEPHUS. DID YOU KNOW? The Roman historian Tacitus referred to Christus and his execution by Pontius Pilate in his Annals (written ca. AD 116). Pliny the Younger on Christians. DID Tacitus provide a non-Christian confirmation of the crucifixion of Jesus? Non-canonical, non biblical Greek writer: Lucian of Samosata, testifies Christians worship this man who was crucified. Historian Outside The Bible Confirming The Time of Jesus death By Thallus. Recordings of The Crucifixion by Contemporary Historians. By Dr Richard Kent. Archaeological evidence of Gallio who tried and judged St Paul as told in Acts 18:12.

[@allzpark]

im so scared i'm not saved

[@colonalklink14]

God draws all men unto Him and He gives a measure of faith to every man, it's then up to us to decide where to place our faith. Jesus is Lord God Almighty clothed in unsinful humanity and He is the author of (eternal life) to all who trust Him alone for salvation. This means that saving repentance is realizing that you are a sinner deserving of God's just punishment in Hell and turn (repent) from whatever you trusted in before, if indeed you trusted in anything; to trusting in the person and finished work of Christ "alone" for salvation.

[@andrewpepper8031]

Not if death is it. Nothing else.

[@wondery6693]

NO SIR. I hope he remembers his words when he kneels before Yahusha. When Yahusha asks him did you learn and are you worthy of my Kingdom? This kid has to say NO SIR.

[@richardmckissick4471]

Oh yes always the guilt the tool

[@kevinrtres]

Simple - if you do not see the disease you'll not want the cure - and end up in the eternal flames. Simple, really.

[@benjaminnagy3703]

The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt; their acts are vile. There is no one who does good. Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God.

[@downenout8705]

Well that pretty hurtful and not very "loving" is it? Guess that's all the "proof" you need to show that the Christian god isn't "all loving" and is logically incoherent.

[@jeromedavis8575]

Preach!

[@jeromedavis8575]

@@downenout8705 That's according to the Bible, and Yes he is loving.

[@downenout8705]

@@jeromedavis8575 As the saying goes "there is no greater hate than Christian love". I see no "love" in the slaughter of babies and the unborn by Yahweh/Jesus by burning alive in Genesis 19: 24-25; putting to the sword in 1 Samuel 15: 3 and drowning in Genesis 7: 21. I see no "love" in "designing" a womb that has spontaneously slaughtered close to a quarter of all the unborn since the dawn of humanity. I see no "love" in granting the gift of virtual immunity from cancer to the naked mole rat, whilst simultaneously standing idly by watching human babies die in agony from that disease. It deeply saddens me that you should find these depravities "loving".

[@jeromedavis8575]

Gee, where is this world going - especially our college students?

[@mistermacwaffle2800]

We don't treat murder as equal in deserving the same punishment as stealing a candy bar in our justice system. Why would we accept as "perfect and just" a system from a god that clearly isn't?

[@notcrazyyet2972]

“We don’t”

[@cinnamondan4984]

How do we know the devils are not dancing around?

[@JV-jq4dt]

Revelations 20:10

[@cinnamondan4984]

@@JV-jq4dt ok, but “dancing”?

[@KSATSpotting]

the devils aren't there rn either. They're on Earth taking as many people as they can with them

[@allzpark]

hot do i preach the gospel to my friends i'm scared

[@francescoaccomando7781]

1. Read and under The bible 2. Note your findings 3. Ask the holy spirit to help you

[@editlife41]

No yer indeed they asked for proof and they will justify and still doubt.

[@naturesounds9254]

does anyone know that name of this guy?

[@cyranium]

This how I would answer as an Atheist: 1) innocent, I made the most rational decisions with my life based off the information that I had available to me. 2) not have hell looming over people at all as a threat. Or create a system like the good place. 3) the resurrection story isn’t an incredible thing only an insane god would make a system where the only way to forgive sins is to become human, die through cruxifixction, then resurrect but only forgive those that believe in the story. You know what even a human would do. Just forgive unconditionally makes humans better then the god in that aspect which is supposed to be impossible. 4) No, the Jesus story makes far more sense as a fictional story created by people to replace the animal sacrifices that were being done during Yom Kippur because people thought they were barbaric.

[@BurnFireBlaze]

I don’t mean to be rude but to debate you a bit 1. If you are given a rule book that has the rules in it and you choose not to read it and get in trouble, you still are accountable because the choice was yours not to read and understand the rules set. 2. Hell was not a place Ment for us it is a place without him and his presence, for sinners like the devil and his followers to be punished but due to the fall of man brought on by Adam and Eve we became sinners not fit to be in Heaven with god. God does not send us to hell we send ourselves there every time we deny god until god finally gives you what you want and lets you go to the place without him there at all, Hell. 3. By that logic then witness accounts at a crime scene or witness testimonies for crimes just shouldn’t count or play a factor? Even if documented? God is not just some big voice saying rules he is a parent and we are made in his image and like any parent they can get upset there children are not following rules and doing things that lead them down a dangerous path, the child may not see the bigger picture in trying times and times that seem unfair or bad but that parent does what’s best for there child. We trust our parent to know best so why not trust a parent greater than even that. 4. How do you know there were sacrifices? Maybe some text or items and places discovered? Maybe writing depicting and describing people back then? What makes these accounts more credible than Jesus accounts? Which were better documented?

[@cyranium]

@@BurnFireBlaze No it’s not rude and I don’t mind Friendly discussion. 1. It’s not just 1 rule book. Between all of the different religions including within Christianity itself it would be more of given thousands of rulebooks but they all can’t be right but they all could be wrong for the best way to play the game of life. Isn’t a better idea to take a step back and evaluate them equally. 2. Technically the Bible doesn’t make a strong claim on that perspective. Apologist will say that but it doesn’t really make a lot of sense when you critically analyze the story. For an example Adam and Eve only has 3 logical outcomes. If the story is true Either God required us to Sin, god isn’t all knowing. Or its just a fictional story. The third one makes far more sense. I can go into that explanation if you desire. 3. Witness accounts are the least reliable source of evidence people make mistakes all the time. Regardless not all parents deserve praise. If you have an abusive parent you shouldn’t be forced to praise them. The way that the Bible claims God love actually would be considered an abusive relationship. “Better not forget how I sacrificed Jesus to forgive your sins, if not I’m going to lock you up in my basement”. If a god actually exist they would know that in order to have an honest relationship with anyone would not have any conditions that cause severe punishment. 4. The Old Testament states that prior to Jesus the people did yearly sacrifices of animals. The festival was called Yom Kippur. It required 2 goats one you set free and one you sacrificed. The church would provide a service to make it easier for everyone by allowing them to buy their goats at the church at the time of the festival instead of traveling with goats. When the Bible says Jesus started tossing tables it’s meant to represent Jesus stopping the need to sacrifice animals. The story even matches perfectly Pilate asked the people to sacrifice Jesus and let one prisoner go. This practice wasn’t actually done in real life with people. It’s meant to copy the goats of Yom Kippur so animal sacrifices wasn’t needed anymore because Jesus blood is stronger then animals. Now an important question you have to ask yourself… how can someone determine if a god actually required animal sacrifices or was it more just people of the time attempting to understand their world and getting it wrong. Which one seems more likely and what does that mean for a story about Jesus completing the same action.

[@Belmont-wz4gg]

He's literally laughing and smiling about his eternal damnation. So sad for him.

[@downenout8705]

Because he knows that the one true god, loves the intellectual honesty of the atheist and casts all who follow the evil triplets of Yahweh Jesus and the unholy spirit into an eternal pit of warm porridge. No rational person fears something that they truly believe isn't real, anymore than you and I fear being eaten by a fire breathing dragon. Anyone can do a little open minded research and easily discover that hell is nothing more than a man made concept designed to keep the gullible believing and paying their tithes.

[@Thep00psc00p_]

It always amazes me how someone with so little evidence for their claim can be so convinced of its validity.

[@Thep00psc00p_]

@snowboard7142 created with no creator, sure. We know how Stars form for example. Stars come from non stars thus creation of something new from something old, with no creator. Just good old-fashioned physical laws.

[@kevinrtres]

@@Thep00psc00p_You bubble just burst. Stars cannot form all by themselves from clouds of gas in the vacuum of space - has NEVER been observed and theoretically it's not possible. SO there is absolutely no scientific support for that fabulous idea. Better start investigating that humanist religion based on material only.

[@Thep00psc00p_]

@@kevinrtres Theoretically not possible? That is a lie, a falsehood that you surely know is easily fact checked. I wonder if your religion has anything to say about bearing false witness? 'Theory of Star Formation' by McKee and Ostriker, written all the way back in 2007. It's an interesting read if you are ok with having to change your mind.

[@lenroddis5933]

@@kevinrtres Is lying the only path you see to discount those who don't accept what you believe? Otherwise, yours is just an argument from ignorance,

[@kevinrtres]

@@Thep00psc00p_ So please tell me when did Mckee and Ostriker receive their Nobel prizes for their much enlightening theory??? Besides which, please go ahead and demonstrate in your theory that it's possible. I should perhaps change that word to SPECULATION because until there's actual real life supporting observation of the SPECULATION it's exactly that - just another unconfirmed hypothesis. Same as with the formation of the solar system - or even the formation of the moon!

[@kevinphillips150]

I guess this speaker completely forgot about Jews and their relationship with God (and Jesus)?

[@danielhixson3717]

I applaud this guy, but remember Jesus's instruction on evangelizing. Matthew 10:14.

[@bethalpha]

liberalism.....

[@YI-tm5xn]

NOT EASTER! HAVENT YOU READ THE HISTORY WHERE EASTER STARTED??? ITS PASSOVER!! EVERYWHERE IN THE BIBLE IS PASSOVER. KJV IS THE ONLY BIBLE HAS ONW WORD THAT USED EASTER AND EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE KJV IN THE BIBLE ITS USING PASSOVER. ALL THE OTHER BIBLES ALSO PASSOVER, NOT EASTER. EASTER IS THE BUNNIES AND EGGS THING. AND IN THE NEW TESTEMENT PASSOVER IS PART OF JESUS DYING ON THE CROSS .. ITS USING WORD PASSOVER THERE TOO.

[@robb6059]

"That those who are not believers in God, to them I come as death and takeaway everything, finished." Read The Bhagavad-Gītā As It Is, please. Hare Kṛṣṇa.

[@melvincarter9640]

The Bhagavad-Gita have no salvation in it. Nothing in it can cause you to be save .

[@robb6059]

Ch.18 text 66. Abandon all varieties of religion and just surrender unto Me. I shall deliver you from all sinful reaction. Do not fear.

[@DJK-cq2uy]

Someone please slept some sense into Todd. Narrow n ignorant lethal combination

[@kevinrtres]

Tell that to Jesus who made the ultimate "narrow" statement: "No one comes to the Father except thru me.", thereby excluding ALL other religions. Then He went on to say - you must enter by the NARROW gate because BROAD is the gate that leads to destruction and many be there that enter in by it. Then read 1 Corinthians 1:18-29 and see about being ignorant or a fool.

[@DJK-cq2uy]

@@kevinrtres I'm sure He would approve if mega church coffee shops ? Ur r likely a mega church boy. Grow a brain.

[@DJK-cq2uy]

@kevinrtres Didvi say anything other than he's got a narrow mind. Read Judaism on narrow minds spacious mind. Oh but an anti semite like u likely r wouldn't read Judaism You likely hate the people Jesus is part of. Smh..Evangelical boy

[@DJK-cq2uy]

@@kevinrtres u 🤡

[@d.rabbit7276]

Religion *CAN'T* thrive without selling fear and division.

[@aaronjohnson609]

@@JordanWilliam4 It’s still a religion though, no matter how much you sugarcoat it. If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck, then it’s a duck.

[@melvincarter9640]

Yet so what do the world offer you D.Rabbit? It's very easy to say that religion sell fear and division. The world is already divided and people live in fear all the time, we don't need religion when the world is already in this state. Christianity offer hope and salvation to people who are lost. Can you tell me what hope do we have in this world ? We live and eat and we have some few good moments but a lot of bad things happen to us in this world and before we know it we die. Don't you think it's more out there then this ?

[@d.rabbit7276]

@@melvincarter9640 "Christianity offer hope." Hebrews 11:1 states Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. But Melvin, if you have proof of something, you don't need faith or hope. This Jordan Peterson rhetoric is wholly disingenuous and it actually insults the intelligence of the listener. I don't need hope to know that my wife is cooking salmon tonight. I don't need to need faith to know that I attended the Indiana University school of Law. Both situations have evidence. My wife asked me this morning if salmon was good for tonight and I confirmed yes. She sent me a video a couple of hours ago seasoning the fish. I have school transcripts and graduation pictures. I have at least four of my college professors on speed dial. They were actual witnesses that can verify my identity, skill set, and graduation experience. At the very least I know that I have a wife and have a track record of her making salmon in the past. The christian cult offers no such evidence. Other than unproven traditional rituals that means nothing except to invoke feelings, and emotions. The bible is an incomplete, plagiarized, violent, and unethical, piece of literature designed to control the weak and easily manipulated. There's ABSOLUTELY zero historical evidence of Adam, Eve, Joseph, Nimrod, Isaiah, Daniel, Abraham, Moses, Job, King David, Samson, Deborah, King Saul, Jonah, Lot, John, Mark, Stephen, Simon Peter, Nehemiah, Bartholomew, or Noah. This is why they are considered biblical characters, not historical figures. Napoleon Bonaparte, Cicero, Alexander the Great, and Czar Nicholas II are all historical figures. I have no problem with the idea of a first century apocalyptic cult leader named Jesus existing. (Which wasn't his name.) But the Jesus the christian cult members sells us is a man who raised men from the dead, healed the sick and blind. Fed 5000 people with 2 fish and 5 loaves of bread. Walked on water and turned water into wine. Died and rose from the dead before floating up to heaven. There's ABSOLUTELY zero evidence of any of things happening. I don't expect the world to offer me anything, and why should I? The christian god doesn't offer you anything either. When a man is elevated to CEO of a fortune 500 company, it's largely because of his hard work or nepotism. Either way, it was the efforts of men, not the imaginary god that never shows up. Religious zealots from the 3 Abrahamic cults are so arrogant that they believe there must be a "purpose" for their existence and the universe was created for them. There's no evidence to think that there's an afterlife. Where did you get this programming? If you live in America, the indoctrination is everywhere. But most people get their religion from their parents and grandparents. Sure, there are people who convert but it's rare in comparison. Or those people simply transfer to another branch within their cult. Example: A Pentecostal flipping to a Baptist or non-denominational. But they're both still under the evil christian religion. Pascal's wager is a piss poor way of approaching a different conversation on religion. In fact, faith and hope is a poor pathway to truth.

[@KSATSpotting]

And parent cant parent without instilling fear of punishment if you do something wrong. Fear in this case saves you, not working against you.

[@melvincarter9640]

@@KSATSpotting everything in life is about fear. We live in reality, not a make believe world .

[@andrewpepper8031]

Heaven sounds unpleasant. Hell has great people there.

[@kevinrtres]

Not according to Jesus who said it's better to pluck out your own eye or cut off your hand or foot if any of those would cause you to go to hell. Rather that maiming than to end up in the eternal torment. There is nothing GOOD in hell because all that is GOOD is from God - and the only thing in hell will be God's infinite wrath.

[@AriannaArdent-rs1di]

I guess you’ll find out the truth one day

[@scrumpymanjack]

Plenty of huge assumptions here. God do appear-2,000 years ago. Nope, no evidence whatsoever that Jesus was the son of God. God made the heavens and the universe. Nope, no evidence whatsoever. God sent his own son to die on a cross for our sins? Really? That the simplest way God could come up with? The all-powerful, all-seeing God, and he thought that was the way to go? Very, strange. Also rather dumb.

[@jamesthephenomenal1259]

Jesus lived a perfect life without sin, and dying on the cross was the greatest sacrifice meant to unite us with God. If you read the bible with an open heart then this significant act that you say seems silly will be revealed to you. That's the only way.

[@scrumpymanjack]

@@jamesthephenomenal1259 “With an open heart”. Is that code for letting go of my critical faculties, suspending my habit of questioning and forgetting how important it is to remain skeptical? If so, then no thanks. I E read the Bible closely, which is more than I can say for most religious people. And I’ve concluded that it’s a load of nonsense. None of it bears up to scrutiny. It’s not historically accurate, and it was written decades after Jesus was around. It’s also full of contradictions. Nobody with sound mind could honestly conclude otherwise.

[@jamesthephenomenal1259]

@@scrumpymanjack It isn't code for anything, it just means as it says, an open heart yearning for answers. But to those who are of the world, it means nothing more than a book of stories. I pray that your heart may be stirred to accept Christ as your savior, only then could the words of the book you discard have meaning.

[@scrumpymanjack]

@@jamesthephenomenal1259 if it’s answers I’m after, and it is, the Bible is the last place I’d look. I’ve read it…and it falls a long way short of providing answers that make any sense.

[@DomskiOKKK]

Spiritual eyes brother.