Christians Don’t Actually Believe the Bible |

[@redandblue323]

Dude did his videos without showing his face for years and it turns out he looks like a Rebel flagship commander in a Star Wars movie

[@HissoriRenda]

I can't believe he would keep that handsome mug hidden from us for so long

[@hannahpealbanana]

I was honestly shocked by how handsome he is 😅 but I was also kind of attached to the static head

[@misslayer999]

Agreed he looks pretty badass.

[@dasbus9834]

But what if the static face was the real one...?

[@markbriten6999]

I believe he was a teacher. In theukno problem in the us?

[@serpentinious7745]

"They read between the lines then ignore the lines" - Aron Ra

[@rufusneumann9703]

A wise man^^

[@kinglyzard]

Love me some Aron Ra content!

[@david77james]

Sounds reasonable for some people, right? If you disagree, what are you, a commie pinko or sumthin, thinkin everyone needs to be the same?

[@Christis4real]

And atheists make assumptions without understanding context. Apparently context is convenient

[@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr]

The lines just confuse you when you're trying to read between them.

[@lordlaughypants5889]

God: Don't eat from that tree that will show you the difference between good and evil. Adam: Why not? God: Because you'll die. Adam: Is that a good thing or an evil thing?

[@EmeraldEyesBibleSecrets]

Knowing Good and Evil could mean experiencing them. Animals don't know good and evil. There are just actions and consequences in nature, Good and Evil only exist in the intentions and hearts of men.

[@russellharrell2747]

God: obviously it’s a good thing since I made it do that. Adam: are you sure about that?

[@farrex0]

@@EmeraldEyesBibleSecrets so, are you planning on backing that up or are you just going to make claims? Many animals do show moral behavior, especially social animals, such as dogs for example. But many other social animals can have their own laws, societal rules and many other interesting complex behaviors that suggest they do indeed have morals. Many even have empathy, many even outside their own group and species. Things like, chimps, jaguars and many other animals taking care of another animal's cub they found. Which might go against their survival, but they seem to show moral behavior. As to what is really happening on their brain, well no one truly knows... so we can only seem behaviors and behaviors show you are absolutely wrong. If you claim they behave that way, but they aren't truly, then you are making an unfalsifiable claim. Which would be just that, a claim. A claim that doesn't even follow the evidence.

[@justinwatson1510]

@Emerapd, Good and evil are social constructs. Animals can tell when a situation is unfair, and I'm pretty sure they can tell when they are in danger. Humans aren't very unique among mammals; if anything, our greatest skill is telling ourselves how much better we are than other animals.

[@plattbagarn]

Adam would have asked "what does death mean? That's not a concept that has been invented yet."

[@beyondwx]

Changing scripture to fit doctrine? I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you!

[@brandanimations3790]

That's Protestantism for you, thank Martin Luther for that. Now try to find it in the Catholic Church, let's see how it goes.

[@rezadaneshi]

The sense of living forever in scientific terms is the perpetuity of our particles as many billion year old stars and their supernovae particles, are alive and live in us. Our consciousness is just a part of the cycle of the universe. We think we begin and end. But really, based on history, we are randomly mixed living particles

[@robertl4824]

@@brandanimations3790they dont need to since they wrote the new testament and passed it off as the word of god. They have since moved on to commit atrocities!

[@brandanimations3790]

​@@robertl4824 "They don't need to, since they wrote the New Testament and passed it off as the word of God." You just don't know how the New Testament came to be right? Have you ever heard of the Council of Rome or the Council of Trent? You should search it. "They have since moved on to commit atrocities!" Name four.

[@AnnoyingNewsletters]

Catholicism doesn't need to change the scripture, itself. They get hotfix papal bulls straight from God to the Pope. Mighty convenient that God updates things based on the culture, even if it takes awhile. 😅

[@sieben.5141]

They have less respect for “The Book” than I do, and I am supposed to be an apostate, heretic, blasphemous.

[@kingbidenmypres]

That's a good point. I've taken so many invaluable lessons from the big book of stories fables and parables..ones your typical xtian clearly missed. Then again I've taken lessons from many books, the trick is reading them...I know I was floored too

[@zigzag-xx2yd]

Yes!!! I still read it because it just fascinates me! People fascinate me with their thoughts!

[@rufusneumann9703]

Ave satana!

[@suicune2001]

Right. At least I'll acknowledge what it ACTUALLY says instead of just making stuff up. LOL

[@KopitioBozynski]

@@kingbidenmypres Agreed but self censoring yourself out of petty spite makes you look immature. Leave that kind of behavior to the cultists.

[@MindShift-Brandon]

So here for this! I had this exact clip saved to make a response to, but all too glad to hear your take instead.

[@exaucemayunga22]

You should also do a reaction video. I enjoy watching your stuff every week.

[@Scott4Ever3811]

Would love to hear your take

[@kingbidenmypres]

Zod is the content creators content creator.. Glad to see you here. I'm going to check your channel out next.

[@erinelizabethmsw5137]

I love hearing different takes from my favorite creators!

[@erinelizabethmsw5137]

@@kingbidenmypresBrandon’s channel is the shit. Buckle up!!!

[@AggoKarmaGaming]

These dudes wrote their own fan faction to the fan fiction.

[@chadkndr]

wait wouldn't that mean that there is some kind of original story that the bible borrowed from to turn into a fan fiction?

[@AggoKarmaGaming]

@@chadkndr fan fiction to the origin of the universe and all that.

[@hackman669]

Like Disney Wars 😢

[@AggoKarmaGaming]

@@hackman669 don’t even get me started

[@Finckelstein]

@@chadkndrThe bible is iron age fan fiction to a bronze age fantasy story.

[@Boris99999]

I actually expected them to say in the end: “But that’s just a theory. A Bible Theory!”

[@Vegeta-4101]

Aww man miss MatPat already.

[@Aeriesan]

Ugh, missing MatPat 😢

[@bluecat4802]

Oof. Hits me in the feels

[@MrDalisclock]

The garden of eden story is where Yahweh created a dirt man to work his garden, created a woman after the dirt man didn't want an animal companion and then the whole thing went to shit because Yahweh left his gardeners alone with a snake for 30 seconds.

[@InfinityKrompt]

Real quick correction. In the Torah, the word used to describe Adam, adham, is used in Genesis 26-27 to refer to all humans, male and female. And Adam, before the creation of Eve, had no gender in the Torah. So its more correct to say "The garden of eden story is where Yahweh created a genderless dirt doll to work his garden," Really just makes the story that much funnier when people say "God made you in his image"

[@MrDalisclock]

@@InfinityKrompt fair point. Thank you. I was gonna make a joke that Adam was a golem but I wasn't sure if that strictly fit the Golem concept.

[@EmeraldEyesBibleSecrets]

EDEN is the Sumerian word for "House of Judgment."

[@grepora]

@@InfinityKrompt So God's chosen people should be androgynous. No wonder they hate sex so much. They can only have sex a certain way, and never on the sabbath, which is their only day of rest. It's confusioning. Were they trying to encourage reproduction or make it more difficult?

[@adamstevens1083]

​@@EmeraldEyesBibleSecretsgenesis was written in Hebrew, not Sumerian, which was a language isolate.

[@madtabby66]

Yep. Called out a pastor for taking things out of context. Got told I shouldn’t read the Bible because I didn’t have discernment. So you need magic goggles to understand.

[@craigsmith1443]

_Called out a pastor for taking things out of context_ What did he say?

[@justinhart2831]

As much as Protestants in particular talk about the Bible speaking for itself, it always seems to come.doen to the congregation being told what the Bible really saysby some guy who apparently gas it figured out. You don't even need the book. Just ask some random guy who says he talks to God to te you what God says.

[@craigsmith1443]

@@justinhart2831 _it always seems to come.doen to the congregation being told what the Bible really saysby some guy who apparently gas it figured out_ For a few, yes. Not for most, however. People just don't disagree with the preacher during the preaching. After, however, apparently you'd be surprised at the discussion and even disagreement. In a way, people should be able to agree with the preacher, since it is his duty and responsibility to know what he's talking about and why. That, of course, is all too often not the case through simple human tunnel vision, incuriosity, defensiveness, and neglect. That has a long history: the sons of Eli and of Samuel were like that, for example. Even though Cain heard about God from his parents who 'walked with God,' he still killed his brother and got snarky with God (that kind of rebel attitude is well-known today). So people don't understand God and tell others about God from their ignorance quite commonly. _You don't even need the book. Just ask some random guy who says he talks to God to te you what God says_ Though that was meant sarcastically, it's a contradiction in terms. If you don't read the book, you won't be able to tell if he knows what he's talking about or not, and people have all kinds of motives for telling others 'what God said.' And you can find lots of guys (they don't have to be 'random') who talks to God. It's called 'prayer.' But you won't be able to talk with them about that you seem to think you could should you do so. What I hear in prayer mostly relates to me, to what I've done wrong and what I need to do next, because that's what I usually need. Not very exciting from another's point of view, but my friends seem to appreciate it.

[@incredibleadventures1027]

​@craigsmith1443 you sound insane

[@craigsmith1443]

@@incredibleadventures1027 _you sound insane_ You are welcome to explain.

[@Illusionistofthecourt]

The project already fails when it thinks the bible is unified in its message.

[@donnievance1942]

True. The Bible is a mish-mash of books with different, and often mutually contradictory, philosophies and purposes-- which makes it handy for inventing new religious movements. You can just cherry-pick the parts that fit with your project and give the rest of it new symbolic interpretations.

[@EmeraldEyesBibleSecrets]

Gal 3:13 Christ became the curse, Hosea 13:4, He is the only savior, Hosea 13:7-8, He admits to being the LION LEOPARD BEAR Beast of Revelation 13:1-8. Christians judge non believers to Lake of Fire, but it's for them. 34 verses in OT say Jehovah is a fire breathing dragon! Who would worship the dragon and the beast? No one, yet they all do. Jehovah the dragon gave his kingdom to Jesus the Beast. 666 in original Greek is Chi X Stigma. Jesus on the cross is mark of the beast. Isaiah 1 God doesn't want offerings. "Who demanded this of you?" No engraven images yet Moses makes a Serpent on a pole. Rev 12:9 the Dragon fooled the world!

[@afernandez9579]

​@@EmeraldEyesBibleSecrets okay what kind of shrooms are you on?

[@clydewaldo3144]

The bible is about the right to rule god,man, devil. This guy just a chatterer

[@Muhluri]

​Do you want me to send you harry potter quotes to prove that magic is real? @@EmeraldEyesBibleSecrets

[@stevewebber707]

You know how you let the bible speak for itself? You read the bible as it is.

[@EmeraldEyesBibleSecrets]

Gal 3:13 Christ became the curse, Hosea 13:4, He is the only savior, Hosea 13:7-8, He admits to being the LION LEOPARD BEAR Beast of Revelation 13:1-8. Christians judge non believers to Lake of Fire, but it's for them. 34 verses in OT say Jehovah is a fire breathing dragon! Who would worship the dragon and the beast? No one, yet they all do. Jehovah the dragon gave his kingdom to Jesus the Beast. 666 in original Greek is Chi X Stigma. Jesus on the cross is mark of the beast. Isaiah 1 God doesn't want offerings. "Who demanded this of you?" No engraven images yet Moses makes a Serpent on a pole. Rev 12:9 the Dragon fooled the world!

[@EmeraldEyesBibleSecrets]

Yes it does. The Beast 666 is Christ in Hosea 13:7-8, and the Dragon is Jehovah according to 34 verses.

[@donnievance1942]

And when you do that, you realize that the Bible is a bunch of crude barbarian myths with scores of conflicting purposes and messages.

[@thomasridley8675]

They don't want you to read the bible. Originally only priests could read and give interpitations of scripture. Even then there was still many theological variations as other cultures were given the word.

[@suicune2001]

@@EmeraldEyesBibleSecrets You forgot Hosea 13:16, when he tortured a baby to death, when he drowned the world, bashing babies on rocks, when he ordered David's wives to be raped, when he cursed all women to painful childbirth and to be slaves of men, when he forced an entire town to cannibalism.......

[@lucadivine3862]

Their video starts out as "liberal interpretation" and ends up in full on "fan fiction" territory...

[@kinglyzard]

I thought Zod might have gotten a subdural hematoma from that burning bush nonsense. Dude had to go _off camera_ to fing facepalm!

[@QuintarFarenor]

It takes so many artistic liberties that it's a whole different story!

[@EdwardHowton]

I'm not sure I can even fully make it through the video; I saw the liberal interpretation bit, I heard some of the fanfic bit, and I'm expecting full-blown Mary Sue before the end.

[@nondescriptcat5620]

let's be real, the New Testament is already Old Testament fanfic.

[@Johnhamsta]

[Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way has joined the chat]

[@fred_derf]

"The bible is the inerrant word of god! Except this bit, that's just allegory. And that bit, and these bits over here, and most of this stuff, and ..."

[@Christis4real]

You know that's like presenting principia to a 5 year old and expecting it to understand. The whole point of God and morality is that we don't have perspective.

[@fred_derf]

@@Christis4real I'm not talking about god or morality, I'm talking about the inerrancy of the bible (or lack there of) and the christian hypocrisy surrounding it.

[@Christis4real]

@@fred_derf lack of perspective is lack of understanding. Ofc you think there are errors in the Bible and I'm happy to explain them to you

[@fred_derf]

@@Christis4real So, was the Earth (despite the literal mountains of evidence against it) created in six days? Or is that just an allegory?

[@Christis4real]

@@fred_derf it's an allegory. It's been thought of in that way for centuries.Augustine of Hippo, one of the most influential theologians of the Catholic Church, suggested that the Biblical text should not be interpreted literally if it contradicts what we know from science and our God-given reason. From an important passage on his The Literal Interpretation of Genesis I do apologize for some literalist Christians and their behaviour.

[@lunarspunk]

turns out the tree of life was just the friends we made out with along the way

[@nicksully24100]

This was the comment I was looking for

[@TheSkyGuy77]

Lol

[@ianalan4367]

Depending on who your friends are I suppose.

[@kMegalonyx]

The One Piece was just another devil fruit all along? Is that why Blackbeard has two? Im so lost now, ill have to ask my pirate pastor.

[@Grayraven777]

If they actually let the bible speak for itself, this whole religion would've never even got off the ground.

[@pRODIGAL_sKEPTIC]

I do miss the static face for purely nostalgic reasons but this man has the friendliest face 😅

[@dreadpiraterobertsnumba5]

OH NO, HE'S HOOOOT!

[@priceoffame]

Ugh! I hate when people think their headcanons are actually canon! Fandom is out of control these days. XD

[@hackman669]

Caught Disney Wars!😂

[@LakinMae5]

The Jesus Fandom has lot of in fighting and flame wars over what is canon and what is fanon!

[@TheSkyGuy77]

​@@LakinMae5 Its almost like the fandom is extreme or something

[@LakinMae5]

@@TheSkyGuy77 I know, there are many toxic fans, that it causes any causal fans look bad by association.

[@TheSkyGuy77]

@@LakinMae5 lol

[@mirandarensberger6919]

8:50 "Like a parent... telling us not to play with the chemicals under the sink." And responsible parents either put those chemicals up high where the kids can't reach or put a lock on the cupboard door. God put the tree right where the innocent humans would walk past it every day and have easy access to it. So if God was supposed to be parenting us, he did a really shit job of it.

[@LakinMae5]

God also like his Demi-god son be sacrificed and raised by another man because he couldn’t be bothered to pay child support.

[@kMegalonyx]

Look, it makes *total sense* that gawd wouldn’t understand the nature of the beings he created or pay attention to the fact that they *definitely would* try the thing he chose to make and chose to make accessible and appealing!!!1!

[@jrpence]

"The old book says what I say it says" .. ignore the old book, listen to me, I know more than you.

[@davidfenton3910]

Yup! Orthodox world has run off blind faith and unquestioning obedience for Ages.

[@matalostodos]

The “old” book wasn’t written down until centuries after the new one was out. Just as the fake holiday called Hannukah is invented 1600 years later than Christmas and made to appear ancient. Don’t blame christians for what the Steins and Bergs published and passed off as their religion.

[@kool4209]

Ephesians 6:5-9 New International Version 5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free. Your old book that’s man made 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@craigsmith1443]

And you are saying the same thing.

[@michaelsommers2356]

Ironic that the tree of eternal life was itself mortal. If it were immortal, it would still be there, and it isn't.

[@Truth-Be-Told-USA]

Interesting point. Agree with you never thought of that

[@835FPV]

Darth Plagus the Tree.

[@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr]

The garden of eden is probably like invisible now or something.

[@johnwalker1058]

Yeah, I hadn't even thought of that. Although there is a story in Revelation that mentions John the Revelator seeing the Tree of Life in Heaven in his vision, so I guess they meant that after banishing Adam and Eve, God took the tree and moved it into heaven I guess. Or perhaps it was like a Red-Skull-in-Infinity-War type situation where the Tree of Life is able to bestow eternal life on those who consume its fruit, but the tree itself is not able to live eternally. ("I guide others to a treasure I cannot possess.")

[@anthonyhulse1248]

That's because we ate the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil first. And we are banished from Eden. However, the fruit of the Tree of Eternal Life has been fully consumed in Christ's death on the cross- the cross is the Tree of Life. Take up your cross up and follow Christ.

[@Dontreallycare5]

The irony of getting adds for a gospel app on this video is very enjoyable. Really seems like money siphoned out of the religious community into non-religious hands.

[@kingbidenmypres]

De-spoiling the Egyptians. Too bad there's no way for christians to learn about this concept... Wait a minute...

[@NeedSomeNuance]

Which one is it? 😂

[@Bangin0utWest]

​@@NeedSomeNuance gotta be hallow

[@NeedSomeNuance]

@@Bangin0utWest yeah I guess there really aren’t any others 😂

[@Bangin0utWest]

@@NeedSomeNuance 🤣🤣ain't caught on yet I'm waiting for plenty of Christians dating app

[@weirdwilliam8500]

It’s almost like they’ve been trained to think that if it makes them feel good to believe a claim, then this is evidence the claim is true.

[@madtabby66]

And if it makes you miserable, well you’re just wrong.

[@weirdwilliam8500]

@@madtabby66 That’s like 90% of the testimonies I hear from people who “used to be an atheist.” “I was an atheist and I was sad because I didn’t feel cosmically special and significant, so now I believe in god and feel special like I want to.”

[@lisaboban]

Dr. Dan McClellan calls this "negotiating with the text". The meaning of any text is determined by the reader.

[@pansepot1490]

There’s a lot of negotiation going on there. With a generous glaze of addition. ;)

[@davidjanbaz7728]

All of Dan's scholarship is a renegotiating the text from a minimalists scholarship perspective and his channel is better named my Dogma over their Data.

[@EmeraldEyesBibleSecrets]

Yeah, no Christian even reads these: Hosea 13:7-8, Hosea 13:4, Revelation 13:1-8. All of Isaiah 1.

[@davidfenton3910]

love the comment lisa. I see the power of suppositions in the core of reason, very powerfully pre-determining not just meaning in texts but responses to others views, beliefs and positions. sincerely d

[@dragonhealer7588]

Yes. Sounds very Jewish, the scripture is alive as long as there are new ways to interpret it.

[@rafaelallenblock]

As someone raised an atheist and thus never de-converted I think I see religious beliefs in a different way than former believers. I saw all the problems as a young child exposed to Christian friends. Before I started wondering about more complex issues like free-will and the claim that God 'hardened' pharaoh's heart, at a very young age I was awed that other families literally believed in things like demons and demon possession, or angels who would help you pass a test, or how Hitler could have simply accepted Jesus and gone to heaven despite the holocaust. Even seemingly small things seemed off as a young child: If my Christian friends believed in an omniscient god, why would they lie to the teacher about stealing someone's pencil? Didn't they know they would go to hell? One of my friends whose family was Christian Scientist couldn't participate in the walkathon because doctor=bad but then showed up in class one day wearing a cast. I remember asking why he didn't just pray for Gpd to heal his arm and his struggle to answer made me glad I didn't have to worry about learning so many excuses why none of the supernatural world seems to exist in reality. All my friends who were otherwise normal people had this burden of believing in a magic Santa Claus in the sky who gets angry easily yet makes zero effort to be apparent in the real world besides by 'implication' like Hey, I fell and broke my arm because I sinned. Really? As a young child it seemed to me like religion was some sort of imposed insanity.

[@madtabby66]

Hitler was a Christian. He thought he was doing Gods work. All the pagan stuff was from Himmler, and Hitler told him to cut it out many many times.

[@kenshiloh]

What about similar questions for you as an atheist? For example, in 1999, two boys walked onto their high school campus, point-blank executed their classmates, then took their own lives. They hated people and hated life. Was it a double-win for them? In your worldview, is evil rewarded, but goodness is punished? Yet, if they are rewarded for their evil, there is no justice. If there is no justice in the universe, then you can never know peace. Be careful! Without Christ, you will, indeed, live forever with that same restlessness. As it is written, "There is no rest for the wicked." You cannot say that I did not warn you. If you die in your amorality, you will be stuck in amorality forever. In fact, Jesus said that there are torturers in hell. It is the 'final stop' on the train of human corruption. Think of the worst prison in the world and you will start to understand the total lawlessness of hell. Yet, Christ died on a Cross for the sins of the entire world. He is God. He can do that. It is like, we broke the law, but Jesus paid our fine. Yes, even Hitler could have been saved (don't hold your breath!), as his 'fine' for mass murder was paid in full by Christ. Will you play 'Russian Roulette' with eternity? All it takes is to say, "Jesus, if the Bible is true, I accept your gift of eternal life." Open the door lest it closes on your forever. Jesus Christ is the light of the world.

[@borkabrak]

​@@kenshiloh The biggest problem with Pascal's wager is that you can't really choose what to truly believe. If it helps, consider following the teachings of Jesus more than those of Paul. They are actually quite different, to the point where it's reasonable to consider them entirely different religions.

[@gaillewis5472]

Cognitive dissonance is necessary to believe the bible.

[@JT-yl9yt]

@@kenshiloh what the hell does that story have to do with atheism? Christians commit most of the crimes in the USA....those people weren't motivated by their beliefs and the Catholic faith hasn't stopped people from doing insane things. The only noticeable thing about the Catholic faith is that is used to keep people ignorant and easy to control as it literally promotes people to stop thinking critically and obey without asking questions.

[@ivanpetrov5255]

Again, why is recognition of bad and evil actions considered a bad thing? And why they are punished for something they could not understand was "wrong"?

[@visaman]

Because they would become as powerful as Yahweh. Yahweh admits that he is a jealous god. Jealous of the other gods in the pantheon of gods.

[@michaelzedd2540]

It’s like watching someone inventing a new denomination of Christianity in real time.

[@kool4209]

Ephesians 6:5-9 New International Version 5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free. Your silly religions are all fan fiction book clubs 😂😂😂😂😂

[@ksiistoyiiwa]

Your "fan theory" comment was so appropriate - Christianity could well be described as a ragtag assortment of fan theories inspired by the Bible. And don't fan theories generally get made because people are unsatisfied by the limitations of the canon?

[@TerraHv1]

They stretch the words of the Bible more thin than a pair of fishnet stockings on an overweight elephant.

[@stevenbrown6277]

Good one! Ha ha ha...

[@Itsaplatypuse]

Fanon at his best) I can't wait for "The Bible 2" to come out. Then we will finally know if Jay had children's with Mary and who was Jay's secret disciples. (I hope that Lucifer will finally get more attention and character development.) I'm so glad that fandom is steel alive after so many years.

[@wesley3300]

Reminds me of an old Family Guy gag: “The Passion of the Christ 2: Crucify This” starring Jim Caviezel and Chris Tucker

[@rufusneumann9703]

You mean the satanic bible?

[@geordiedog1749]

“Fan theories”. Spot on. Nailed it.

[@irrelevant_noob]

Pun intended, considering the bright week? 😈

[@MrCyclist]

The sad case is that Christians do not read their bible and just listen to apologists and their pastors, both of whom make it up as they go to make it sound palatable. I have learned more from Atheists than Christians of what it contains and why. Keep it up Zod, we have them on the run.

[@EmeraldEyesBibleSecrets]

Yup, and they are going to fail the final exam. Question: Who is the Beast 666 in the book of Revelation that you aren't allowed to worship? Answer: Hosea 13:7-8, Hosea 13:4, and Galatians 3:13.

[@grepora]

Atheists are just trying to keep them straight, but that's a endless task. Christians are more wriggly than a nightcrawler.

[@l0rf]

My very thoughts. I can literally read every version of the bible online to check this. And if I believed in this, I absolutely should since this is either the biggest revelation since Luther or a blasphemous heresy, reinterpreting the sacred text in ways that aren't there. To be fair though, this is something that the ancient Hebrews would have approved of, in spirit. Interpreting a text in new ways was very important to them.

[@matalostodos]

There are no such things as Atheists. There are men who worship dictators, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, even Obama, and hundreds of millions are murdered, starve or endure torture in their land and the lands around them every time one of them takes control. “Atheism” is “sociopathy” when it rules.

[@kenshiloh]

You have Christians on the run? What do you have for the world? Are you an atheist? Is your identity in a negation? Yet, you cannot write a sonnet, nor compose a symphony, nor create a great work of art to a 'nothing'. Atheism is so empty. You came from nothing, are going to nothing, yet have something to say? I hope that you will consider the claims of Christ. He died on a Cross so that you have life, real life. Jesus Christ is the light of the world.

[@grepora]

Why does their tree of life look like a nuclear mushroom cloud?

[@hackman669]

Mass destruction of the dumb? 😂

[@TheSkyGuy77]

They worship that which exploits them.

[@knarf_on_a_bike]

The whole Garden of Eden story never made sense to me. Like, it really seemed like a total set-up. Why the F even put the tree there if you're going to forbid them from eating it? And if God is omniscient, He had to know they were going to eat it, right? Because He actually created the world that way? WTF?

[@hackman669]

Exactly 😂

[@madtabby66]

Aldo if he’s omniscient why did he regret making humans? Why did he let Ham on the ark if he was wiping out evil?

[@craigsmith1443]

Try to have the dignity of free will without choice.

[@xwing2417]

When are omniscience and omnipotence first attributed to God? Or was it implied by our further understanding of what stars actually are?

[@TheMouse254]

It has never made sense and will never make sense because it is made up... It is they way humans try to understand the world. We come up with theories... it is a creation theory

[@jakerz0]

I mean, to be fair, they say “the Hebrew authors want you to picture” the tree of life this way. Implying that while it may not be in the text, it’s in the subtext. I still don’t find this plausible, and instead find this reading to be like much of the rest of the bible, just retrospectively projecting later circumstances, traditions, and beliefs back onto the older texts. But I feel it’s at least worth mentioning that the “it doesn’t literally say that” argument can be a flimsy one. There are legitimate levels of literary and historical nuance in ancient texts that go deeper than the so-called “plain reading” that are worth considering.

[@corvinredacted]

Reinterpreting the Bible to make it more palatable is a two-edged sword. On the one hand, I'd much rather have Christians who are willing to abandon nonsensical or evil theology. On the other hand, inventing ways to drag the Bible with us into the future instead of soundly rejecting it will come back to bite us in the long term. Am I glad that progressive Christians have decided to accept gay and trans people despite what the Bible says? Yes. Am I glad that in a generation, a bunch of kids raised in progressive Christian homes are going to read the Bible, realize they've been misled, and do a revival? No. Not at all. Progress isn't a one-way street. Nothing is guaranteed. If we keep teaching kids that the Bible is really great and God's word, we're going to end up with another wave of "back to basics" Christians determined to return to God's word instead of accepting their church's approved interpretation. It happens every time. That's what a revival _is._

[@emmanarotzky6565]

Except those people aren’t “returning” to anything. People weren’t homophobic or transphobic at the time. Those are recent trends. Christians will always try to form the Bible to match up with current trends, both good and bad. Like any religion, it can be a good influence on some people and a bad influence on others.

[@Bangin0utWest]

Just wait til they write DONALD TRUMP into the Bible. And lo, he looked unto his sheep and proclaimeth, OBAMNA! - Gulliani 3:16

[@EmeraldEyesBibleSecrets]

Gal 3:13 Christ became the curse, Hosea 13:4, He is the only savior, Hosea 13:7-8, He is the LION LEOPARD BEAR Beast of Revelation 13:1-8. Christians judge non believers to Lake of Fire, but it's for them. 34 verses in OT say Jehovah is a fire breathing dragon! Who would worship the dragon and the beast? Jehovah the dragon gave his kingdom to Jesus the Beast. 666 in original Greek is Chi X Stigma. Jesus on the cross is mark of the beast. Isaiah 1 God doesn't want offerings. "Who demanded this of you?" No engraven images yet Moses makes a Serpent on a pole. Rev 12:9 the Dragon fooled the world!

[@Bangin0utWest]

@@EmeraldEyesBibleSecrets HERETIC

[@francesconicoletti2547]

You somehow fail to mention the other option is leaving the church. Yes as long as Christianity is anchored in some form of biblical tradition it will be a socially regressive social movement. There is no compulsion today in most countries where Christianity is practiced for practitioners not to leave the religion. If people find the religion morally abhorrent they will leave. With enough discontent between Christianity and the wider society it will become a marginalised possibility radical small movement.

[@quantumrobin4627]

For 20 years, I most often hear “evolution is a religion” “atheism is a religion”……. It really does speak volumes about how their own religion sits in their mind, fear of death makes it hard to be rational I assume

[@nathanmiller9918]

They seem to project a great deal. Religion, faith, worship, the dislike of being questioned...

[@kenshiloh]

I consider that atheism is a religion. Consider the following 'Atheists Creed' and tell me, if you are an atheist, if you disagree with the creed on any point: Origin: Atheist believe that the universe was 'formed' by natural processes. Purpose and Morality: Atheists believe that purpose and morality are personal choices. Destiny: Atheists typically believe that life ends at death. Please consider the existential problems with your belief system. Most notably, that people choose their own moral law - which is the same as no morality at all! Be forewarned! If you die in amorality, you will forever be tormented by amorality. For example, Jesus said that there are 'torturers' in hell. Yet, who are they? They are not angels, as the angels are in heaven! My best guess (and I am eternally grateful that I will never know first hand) is that the 'torturers' are every day people. They are the same people who delight in watching violent films, of people being tortured, and they carry a secret desire to torture others. Hell is the summation of human depravity. There is no joy there, no sense of fun, only pain. Hell is torment and it lasts forever. If you have lied or stolen, know that there are no lying thieves in heaven. Yet, Christ died on a Cross so that you may be the goodness of God. Jesus Christ is the light of the world.

[@thomasdaniels2674]

Funny how, in both stories, of Genesis and Exodus, the punishment is dealt out because they do something that they didn't know was wrong. In Genesis they didn't know it was wrong, because they had no knowledge of good or evil yet. And in Exodus, the no idolatry rule was being laid down up on top of that hill, and had not yet been disseminated to the people, and yet, that is wrong. that like your suppose to know y9ou cant do something before your informed of it? That is one heck of a hill to die on.

[@Synths-n-Guitar]

Don't try to rationalize the irrational, it does not work it like oil & water does not mix.

[@alexquinn2390]

I'm agnostic but I read a lot of religious texts- I think there are more beautiful ways to get metaphor out of this story than the way they're doing. For example: I don't see the tree of knowledge of good and evil as "doing it your way and not god's way." That's ridiculous and boils down to "If you don't agree with me you're evil" which is immature and childish. To me, its the idea that a thesis creates its antithesis- because an idea implies its opposite, which is how it stands alone as an idea. Often this creates false dichotomies, but let's take the story's view that good and evil is a real dynamic. Something I heard from a rabbi once, I would quote him directly but I can't remember who he was: "A stone higher on a wall is higher than a stone lower on a wall, but it falls with more force." If you know how to do good, then you know how to do evil: fail to do good, do the opposite of what good is. Humans have the knowledge of good and evil, and so can be better than animals, however, humans know how to do evil and so can be worse than animals. Humans as a whole are simultaneously better and worse than animals. Which is part of why one should see the frightening or disturbing or annoying actions done by animals as- not bad, because they don't know how to be bad; and also one of many reasons why one should respect animals.

[@Whiskey.T.Foxtrot]

This is true. My deeply devout mother wrote sermons for local Ministers. I read them... beautiful and eloquent expressions of the best interpretations of the bible. Problem was...it was far away from the actual text and carefully avoided the ugly bits. I loved and admired my mother but always thought she was better and far more moral than the god she revered.

[@wpizdets2640]

She wasn't even supposed to orate. Do xtians even follow any of their own rules?

[@Whiskey.T.Foxtrot]

@@wpizdets2640 She did deliver some sermons (United Church) but her work was so good that other ministers used them.

[@wilhelmschmidt7240]

I was raised in a Christian household, and one of the big things that opened my eyes to how messed up the churches are was simply reading the Bible myself instead of just taking the word of pastors or family and seeing how much preachers flat out lie and how little most supposed Christians even know what Christianity is.

[@craigsmith1443]

_and how little most supposed Christians even know what Christianity is_ For example? and referring to an atheist website is cheating. Refer to the Bible instead.

[@michaelsommers2356]

Their tree of life looks like a giant mushroom.

[@EmeraldEyesBibleSecrets]

They were trippin shrooms in the old testament, and the bible was written through divination.

[@hackman669]

Prehistoric hippis. Love it. 😅

[@madtabby66]

@@hackman669 Look up the stoned ape theory. You’ll love that one even more.

[@ChadbourneZitek]

This is one of your best videos IMO. You just hit the nail on the head and enunciated exactly my frustration with this type of narrative weaving that my ex-church used to be so proficient at. When it comes down to it, they’re creating the story they want to tell and using the language and themes of the Bible to tell their own stories. So frustrating and when you realize it’s happening, there’s no unseeing it. Thanks for putting this together, Zod.

[@montagdp]

I was going to say that at least the fundamentalists take the Bible at face value, but that's not true either. They also use "creative" interpretations at times, because otherwise there is no way to avoid the contradictions.

[@bodricthered]

Wilful ignorance can get you a long way.

[@ob2249]

@@bodricthered especiaIIy when it is a very Iucrative industry

[@robertmiller9735]

@@ob2249 And part of the foundation of the revolutionary social order they're trying to impose.

[@tomjay63]

That was easily the most New Age-y interpretation of the Scriptures I have ever seen. All it was missing was the crystals.

[@antonioscendrategattico2302]

The part where god's power is some kind of Qi that is... trickling down to humans, somehow, is doubly weird to me. Like... that's straight up Dragon Ball territory.

[@jimbarry-fp6gp]

Most people have little idea of the true background of their religion and don’t have the time or inclination to find out about it. The just believe in GOD and don’t get into the weeds.

[@EvertALove]

Hey Zod, thanks for covering this.

[@bradypustridactylus488]

When I was on a mission for the Mormons, there were often these informal discussions of Momon theology, where a bunch of missionaries would try to create a grand schema of things from tenuous connections: this verse from the Book of Daniel, that verse from the Doctrine and Covenants, another from something some apostle said at General Conference, or an obscure reference to the Lectures on Faith. Although, we were specifically forbidden from these wild speculations, it still was an indelible part of my mission experience. I also believe it is one reason why returned Momon missionaries, in particular, and the general LDS culture, in general, are so fascinated and entranced with conspiracy theories.

[@agentcallisto]

Fellow exmo RM here. You just brought back memories of me in the MTC doing a deep dive on why we weren’t allowed to swim on the mission because Satan controls the water or whatever. I was all over the topical guide about that stuff lol. Bring on all the obscure deep doctrine; that was such a fun weird part of mission culture.

[@madtabby66]

I got two bishops fighting by asking about polygamy. All I asked was “if polygamy is forbidden here, because it’s the law of the land, can someone in Saudi Arabia have the 4 wives allowed by law? I left before it got to fists being thrown.

[@madtabby66]

@@agentcallisto What The Fuck? Okay I know my sister said she wouldn’t go swimming because of suits not covering enough. So I sent her a link to swimwear made for Muslim women. She just kind of hmmm about it. But if Satan controls the water, how does immersion baptism work?

[@agentcallisto]

@@madtabby66 It’s in the missionary handbook that you shouldn’t go swimming or do water sports. I’m sure it’s to avoid liability in case of drownings, but the rule + obscure Mormon lore about Satan ruling the waters meant we all believed that was the real reason. I don’t remember where I heard that Satan theory, but it was way before my mission. It’s attributed at least in part to D&C 61:4 “…behold, there are many dangers upon the waters…” There could be other references but that’s the one I know about.

[@JDakaCorgi]

This is so bad and sad that it’s comical, especially the part where you said, are they about to call the burning bush another tree of life and then they did and then you walked away 🤣😅 I love your videos lol, Like, I’m serious about that tho, you do so well and this comedy stuff is so good as well lol

[@Diamond1234]

Ah, changing the interpretation of the bible when it suits them. Classic. I've discovered that this is why there are so many different versions of Christianity like Catholics, Lutherans, Protestants, and such.

[@Puyax01]

And still the oldest scriptures are still copy of a copy etc etc and also modified based on their interpretation and how it also fits previous translations

[@somersetcace1]

To paraphrase, `They do not believe the bible means what it says. They're convinced it says what they mean.` They've got nifty little verses to whip out like 1 Corinthians 2. " The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit." Convenient huh? Basically, you have to believe it to understand it.

[@Christis4real]

Right , that's why theology encourages discussion of biblical concepts. The point made in this verse is crucial in our understanding of spiritualty, and how to interact with the non-believing world. In short, non-believers cannot be expected to think, or to act, like believers. The problem is not intellectual or moral; reason and evidence point towards God (Psalm 19:1; Romans 1:18-23). The key difference is spiritual: those who are not guided by the Holy Spirit, thanks to faith in Christ, simply lack a godly spiritual perspective

[@HeriEystberg]

​@revanthbk6968 if an atheist "simply lacks a godly spiritual perspective", I take it that you base this on quantifiable evidence - perhaps you could demonstrate to us how the spirit guides you to enlightenment, seeing as how you have an otherworldly perspective. In all honesty, what you said might sound profound in your own head, but to me it sounds incredibly pretentious and condescending. The fact that you have the audacity to say such a thing underneath a video made by a former Christian (and there are many more like him) who would certainly tell you otherwise, is a sign that you are the one who lacks perspective.

[@somersetcace1]

@@HeriEystberg Quite honestly if you paid attention, you'd notice I wasn't supporting it I was criticising it. Re read the comment.

[@chrissonofpear1384]

@@Christis4real Then I strongly suggest, you go un-schism yourselves? You have lost the right to lecture on this, when your collective credentials became so dissolute. And often time imprecise. Maybe then - it's time some got reapplied? If one can test setting damp sacrificial pyres alight... Then maybe they can test things... like John 14:12? And, fulfil, them? Before one gets to make major... lasting, clerical or theological, policy, say?

[@Christis4real]

@@HeriEystberg maybe it sounds condescending, but that's not what I meant. I'm a sinner just like you. I've just asked for forgiveness. In front of God, all forms of sins are looked at equally. We all have the holy spirit open to us. This is a really good question because it brings out an important thing. The PRESENCE of God, as the Holy Spirit in all, does not make a RELATIONSHIP. It certainly doesn’t endorse the things He is present in. The presence of God is here, available for a relationship with us, IF we want it. He wants a relationship, but on his terms. That is the key, and one thing that many people can’t accept: HIS terms. They want it on THEIR terms. I’ve heard many people say “I have my own religion” or “I find God my own way” or “I am SPIRITUAL”. Usually that last one means they make things up as they go along.So if a person is open to God’s word and Spirit, God will make a means of saving them and teaching them the right way. That is what He did in Acts chapter 10, with the Roman centurion who sincerely sought God. Since God “poured out his Spirit on all flesh”, the Spirit was there and ready to make things happen, THEN create a relationship with the Romans there. Not until then, in the fullest sense.

[@NeosAvias]

I mean as someone who views the Bible as a work of fiction, I definitely don’t mind when folks decide to come up with their own headcanon lore about it and come up with their own interpretations and visuals around the fantastical stuff in it. The problem is that SOME people like to think that it is super real and literal and SOME people get suuuuper touchy when your headcanon doesn’t match theirs. Like I’m sure if I wrote a story based directly on these folks interpretations as an agnostic I’d probably get death threats for heresy and blasphemy. Weird how these guys think that they can get away with it. 🤔

[@craigsmith1443]

_Like I’m sure if I wrote a story based directly on these folks interpretations as an agnostic I’d probably get death threats for heresy and blasphemy_ What a pleasant fantasy.

[@LostRoswellian]

They don't. Lots of Christians don't like Tim Mackie and lable him a 'progressive Christian' which is the next worst thing than being demonic for some fundamentalists....

[@curiousnerdkitteh]

27:26 "Deepity", with those definitions, is a very helpful term! Seems like so much of my indoctrination was based on these, where the transition from literal to metaphorical became so fluid in my mind that I didn't understand how people couldn't reconcile the idea of "the trinity" where one is also three-in-one but also three separate but connected but also each one is distinct but also talk to one and you're talking to all three.

[@rufusneumann9703]

Now I understand why some people like those pseudo-deep slogans and share them like crazy in social settings...

[@KianaWolf]

Lemme guess: These people also think heaven is supposed to be fluffy clouds and everyone gets halos and wings when they die? Because these christians' knowledge of the bible is thinner than pop culture cartoons.

[@donnievance1942]

Very few Christians have ever read more than a small portion of the Bible.

[@madtabby66]

And grandmas going to meet you at the gates with a fresh batch of cookies!

[@craigsmith1443]

@@donnievance1942 And atheists have read even less.

[@stephenwodz7593]

Why would Gawd put a tree of Good and Evil in the garden, if they weren't supposed to eat from it? What was its purpose?

[@costelinha1867]

You really expect the bible to make actual logical sense?

[@theeternalsbeliever1779]

The purpose was for Adam to qualify as Satan's replacement as the ruler of this world by rejecting his ways and obeying God's. In order for Adam to do that, he had to be instructed on the difference between right and wrong first. It's like telling a child not to touch a hot stove without telling them why they shouldn't do it.

[@Michael-rq3nt]

I'm curious if there are any new young atheists watching this? And how popular are channels like this with the younger generations, I'm a gen x er. Thanks ahead of time for anyone who answers.

[@fluffysheap]

As a Christian, albeit an unusual one, I generally am a fan of Bible Project. But I agree that this is not one of their better videos, because it takes too many liberties with the text, many of which you point out. One that is very obvious is that the serpent is missing! And that changes the whole meaning of the story. There are a few things that you mentioned that aren't really problems, though, perhaps just glossed over. One is the idea of Eden as a temple. This is covered in their other videos, but scholars, notably Richard Elliot Friedman and Michael Heiser (who was their consultant) have explained how the Tabernacle and the Temples are actually reconstructions of Eden. The other is the notion of mountains as the place where the divine and earthly realms connect. This is found multiple times in the Bible - Moses meets God on a mountain, so does Elijah, and the temple is built on one. But we know this idea also from the Greeks, whose gods lived on Mount Olympus, and it probably originated with the Sumerians, who have similar legends. Drawing the connection to the "high places" is clever, but it's not the point.

[@Fremenwarrio66]

Not to mention Eden is described as a mountain in Ezekiel. So it’s natural to assume that trees in the center of a mountain garden would be at the peak of a mountain.

[@julietfischer5056]

When he got up and left the screen, did anybody wait for the sound of a head hitting a wall?

[@lambofwrath95]

3:58-4:03 is probably my favourite bit of PoZ shenanigans. My kind of humour. Love ya mate

[@hellonewman5855]

Thank you POZ. This is so entertaining.

[@brenta2634]

This is some wild Bible fan fiction.

[@Puyax01]

Fiction based on Fiction 😂

[@adrianblake8876]

Actually, their problem isn't the magic fruit, but the fact that a literal reading doesn't portray God the way they like... Which is visible when you see they're brushing the story off, no warning no temptation, no shame no punishment, no characters acting their scenes...

[@adrianblake8876]

​@@RobeonMewAre you denying that the Bible has God playing a significant role in it; not whether what they say is true, but that it isn't a main character of the story!?

[@adrianblake8876]

@@RobeonMew Maybe I should rephrase my comment so you'd understand: The book portrays a character in a way the reader doesn't like. Option 1: Book=Harry Potter, Character=Draco Malfoy Option 2: Book=OT Bible Character=God Reader=Christians, eg, Bible project Nothing about how the book corresponds to real life, capiche!?

[@brentkrohn3786]

This was painful. You should get a medal for deconstructing their biblical BS.

[@SteveDorrans]

"I'm PRETTY sure what god MEANT to say was....." 😅

[@craigsmith1443]

Yes? You have a point?

[@SteveDorrans]

@@craigsmith1443 I do.

[@craigsmith1443]

@@SteveDorrans Uh-huh.

[@Eric_01]

Genesis 3:4, “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” Genesis 3:22, "And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.” 23 So the Lord God banished him from the Garden of Eden..." Who's NOT the liar?

[@Jcs57]

Bigger question, who is the “us” that he’s referring to?

[@Eric_01]

@@Jcs57 I was asking that as I made the comment, but didn't want to get too off track. 🙂 I wonder if they'd try to use that as a trinity explanation. Interesting.

[@jenna2431]

Owen shared a clip of Steven "Mr" Anderson saying he read the bible through one time at 17, and understood it's actual message. So all the folks who have studied and spent the time and money and learned old languages must all feel really stupid.

[@craigsmith1443]

No, we don't.

[@adruiddrummer8841]

I always raise an eyebrow when I hear apologists say that eating the first fruit is what brought death into the world when it definitionally must have been the nature of things for God to have needed another tree's fruit to grant eternal life. If A&E hadn't eaten the fruit from either tree, would they have lived forever? Of course not, or the addition of an eternal life tree to the garden would have been completely unnecessary. This means that God absolutely brought death into the world with the creation of life. It couldn't have originated from the eating of the fruit of Good and Evil.

[@donnievance1942]

You better stop with that rational analysis stuff. It could get you in trouble if Trump gets elected.

[@dragonhealer7588]

When I questioned the Father on exactly this point, I was told "There is a special place in Hell reserved for children who ask such questions. Now go ask God for forgiveness and guidance"

[@adruiddrummer8841]

@@dragonhealer7588 lmao

[@juliaburkholder4213]

Dayum I never realized this, it's such an innocuous detail but it really brings everything crashing down huh

[@Hairmetallurgist]

No serpent?! No blaming the woman for the fall?! No drowning everyone?! No desert-wandering?! No tablet-breaking on Sinai?! No physical resurrection at the end of time?! Why, if I weren't such an amazing Xian who sees the Bible as the inerrant, completely reconcilable book that it is, I might find this "version" a wonderful little tale. But, we all know the truth...the book tells us! 🙄🤣

[@PatrickF.Fitzsimmons]

The fact that Christians have funerals and its all sadness and sombre and a wake, instead of a party celebrating that their loved one went to heaven, is a big tell that they don't really believe.

[@dasbus9834]

I actually like trees. But I still don't think everything has to somehow be a tree 🤔

[@AndrewChristiansen-rx4mx]

So according to "Bibleproject" the Bible says whatever you want it to say.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

The Bible was constructed in stages by non eyewitnesses at different times.The focus was on the Hebrew tribes living on the Sinai Peninsula during the Bronze Age.

[@grepora]

You need to differentiate between the Old and New Testaments. Parts of the Old Testament are a fusion of traditions from the Kingdom of Judah (in the south) and the Kingdom of Israel (in the north). That is why there are two versions of Genesis (and elsewhere).

[@knkn5049]

​@@greporasounds like you think that new testament somehow better. In new testament people arguing as we do, but almost never quoting gospels. Because they were written at the end. Have you noticed something like that in new testament?

[@davidfenton3910]

hi James I like your comment. It makes the most sense to me to consider the bible as constructed using planning in Plato. sincerely d

[@knkn5049]

@@davidfenton3910 Philo from Alexandria and stoic Posidonius. (Not Plato)

[@davidfenton3910]

hi @@knkn5049 Why not? sincerely d

[@larryg6865]

Christianity is all fan theory. Or more accurately thousands of fan theories.

[@davidmccarroll2280]

No wonder there's so many denominations

[@NC-fr1jf]

Great video! Showing support from the Palmer, AK!

[@ProphetofZod]

Just down the road from me!

[@oakleymk]

May the Zod be with you!

[@hackman669]

Very good my apprentice! Soon you will be an all powerful Sith Lord! 😊

[@redfoxninja3173]

Apparently God's perfect words need a lil tuning/updating and are not divine everlasting commandments...but hey even an all powerful God can't get everything...or anything right

[@madtabby66]

I ask why God can’t be as consistent as a dog trainer. I mean should I condemn my dog to death for crapping on the carpet? Or should I correct him for crapping on the carpet? If God doesn’t want us to do things, why doesn’t he correct us?

[@4dojo]

Can't wait.

[@kellypreston8933]

Change the book, change the history, change the narrative, no change to reality.

[@Dare2Doubt]

Thanks for a well-paced breakdown of those numpties' interpretation

[@KenThePlumber]

I really like the newer videos of you showing your face. Your voice is a lot more animated and less monotone. Please keep doing them like this.

[@ShotgunLlama]

At least they aren't saying they were supposed to be apples, which the author of Genesis likely never saw

[@foxstewart824]

at least Game Theory ends his crazy deep dives with "but hey thats just a theory"

[@EmeraldEyesBibleSecrets]

Gal 3:13 Christ became the curse, Hosea 13:4, He is the only savior, Hosea 13:7-8, He is the LION LEOPARD BEAR Beast of Revelation 13:1-8. Christians judge non believers to Lake of Fire, but it's for them. 34 verses in OT say Jehovah is a fire breathing dragon! Who would worship the dragon and the beast? Jehovah the dragon gave his kingdom to Jesus the Beast. 666 in original Greek is Chi X Stigma. Jesus on the cross is mark of the beast. Isaiah 1 God doesn't want offerings. "Who demanded this of you?" No engraven images yet Moses makes a Serpent on a pole. Rev 12:9 the Dragon fooled the world!

[@EmeraldEyesBibleSecrets]

But hey, that's just a theory, a BIBLE THEORY!

[@forrestgossett]

It’s all bizarre. There are too many times that I find myself growing extremely tired of the endless ways ‘Christians’ lie about The Book because The Book is a big hash. But sure, believe in it as The Word.

[@rhettacypert1261]

woah. I am a newly deconstructed christian and was quite fundamental and I was shocked at the complete nonsense of this video. I went to the comments expecting Christians to be pushing back on this absolutely bananas take, I immediately recognized so many made up pieces here and can’t believe no one is pushing back on this just from a christian perspective. It’s so many “young” christian’s in the comments that just so obviously don’t know their bibles well enough even to identify that this is all extra-biblical.

[@torontocitizen6802]

Do Christians ever think about how silly and ridiculous these bible stories are?!?! It’s bizarre.

[@HarryNicNicholas]

when ever i want folks to leave my stuff alone, all i always put that stuff in easy reach and make sure they know not to touch it. god is not a smart person.

[@user-wd9qz6tb3f]

I'm not a pseudo Christian Nationalist, but an authentic Christian, so I DO believe in the Bible verbatim. Don't over generalize please.

[@alenkratohvil6479]

Wow look at the trees! 🎄🎄

[@darrennew8211]

Mr Deity calls it Godzheimers, where the apologists forget what they said in another argument.

[@sarah_757]

It's a bit reductive, perhaps, but I feel like most Christianity is just fan fiction. That's not a bad thing, fan fiction is cool! But the canon is the words on the page. They need to be honest and tell us it's their fan fiction. 😂

[@davidfenton3910]

hi sarah Have you ever watched a movie where changing history means changing the future - so the timeline has to be preserved. Interestingly, this is a true principle in the philosophical making and shaping of society. For example: When people find out Jesus is not real and the bible unreliable, their lives based on this History undergo transformation. The History they believed in changed in their mind and their lives changed accordingly. *Changing History changed the present-for real!* The 'discovery' of the Dead Sea Scrolls was big deal because of their potential to change biblical understandings founding western society. The key researcher for this video making group, Tim, views the bible and it's meaning through publications by Jewish Scholars bringing out 'New' understandings from the Dead Sea Scrolls. I suspect the Dead Sea Scrolls were fabricated to do what they are being seen to do - changing religious/biblical understandings. It is not a coincidence that the only History of the Judean War and many of the understandings the western world had of the Jews/Hebrew religion, came only through the "Historian" JOSEPHUS FLAVIUS. *By making this the only History available, on certain points, it greatly controlled the view of History.* His Histories and the gospels formed a core 'Universal History' for everyone to understand the Jews, Old Testament and the divine birthing of the Holy Roman Empire as “Historical.” For millennia western society viewed reality through this theological mythological story full of legends and marvels. To create a 'Universal History' so a society would all think the same (and obey the rulers laws) the establishing of a religious History that all believed in (seemingly) from ancient times was prescribed in Plato to make an ongoing Kingdom. This was realised in Christianity through the Biblical "History". I consider it likely, most of those making these videos and marketing these ideas think the Dead Sea Scrolls and other current expert sources, give the truest and best knowledge - so they are not lying in the sense of deliberately deceiving. In their minds, I think they are being as honest and true as possible. So I consider them to have false information in the core of their thinking, so while they are passing on deceptions, they are victims of the same deception. sincerely d

[@costelinha1867]

@@davidfenton3910 Hi david, did you know that the Bible is not actual history, but a book of fiction?

[@davidfenton3910]

hi@@costelinha1867 ty for the reply. Yes, I know that. My comment is no longer showing, I would appreciate it if you would copy and paste it to me so I can see it. sincerely d

[@MrFringehead]

As an etiological myth, the Garden of Eden sequence seems to answer the question of "why are we like this?" As humans, we're aware that we're not like other animals, but also that we're not gods in our own right. So with no theory to explain how life diversifies, we need some way to justify our seemingly unique situation. The Genesis story isn't a bad narrative for that purpose, as it explains why even though we're vaguely aware that humans were once closer to nature, we can never go back to the old ways now that we've discovered the benefits of civilization. We're caught in a trap that makes us the misfits of our own world.

[@Diviance]

I am a human. And as a human, we are like every other animal. We have something we specialize in... just like other animals. Ours just happens to be a big thinky bit. We are just like every other animal.

[@curiousnerdkitteh]

It was a cool fanfic about the "false trees of life", they're basically making their own religion, or at least offshoot with extra-biblical texts (rather like the Mormons, whom other Christian groups tend to consider heretical, or the Catholics who believe in sacred tradition, or, well, I guess many or most demonimations with their unbiblical practices like regular tithing), and adapting the original myth into something new, just like the books of the bible often copied from other religious mytholodgy.

[@christophertablante7680]

Holy bible fan fiction bat man, if forced cliche themes are the Mary Sue's biblical vanity projects, then has Prophet of Zod the Christian FFN.

[@jaspernobbs1434]

I’m a Christian and biblical studies student and do appreciate these videos greatly. It is often the case that other Christians invent other elements or embellish the Bible, which is isn’t the way that Christians should read the Bible in the first place

[@davidperkins4150]

OMG -- TRUTH SETS YOU FREE 🔥You've paid your dues Thank you!

[@jiubboatman9352]

It's funny. I'm a big Star Trek fan and enjoy some of the content produced by fans, even deck plans. But I understand this is people making stuff up based on the limited information in the shows. I do not take it as cannon. and understand that it all a work of fiction. Along come a load of Christians that generally not know their book that well anyway and they retcon it as an enhanced "truth". Makes my head hurt.

[@darwinskeeper421]

So the flaming sword that Aziraphale gave to Adam in "Good Omens" actually has a counterpart in the real Book of Genesis. Interesting.

[@LakinMae5]

Praise be Mr. Gaimen!

[@elingeniero9117]

Apparently Chernobyl is packed with glowing trees of life.

[@skepticusmaximus184]

IKR? I wouldn't be going anywhere near the glowing radioactive trees let alone eating their fruit. Even primative people would have an aversion to those trees because any other trees nature don't glow. God could have just made the tree of knowledge glow that was the forbidden one. But the Bible doesn't say anything about either tree glowing. They've embellished this, to make another unjustified connection with the burning bush.

[@hackman669]

Haha 😂

[@TheSkyGuy77]

Suddenly, the church of atom from Fallout now makes sense 😂

[@BillGarrett]

For an omnipotent being, God sure does have to conform to a lot of things like death and sin and bad gardening decisions

[@gregcampwriter]

What Eve should have done is grab fruit from both trees, pop both into her mouth and chew, then say to God, "Now what are you going to do, Big Guy?"

[@craigsmith1443]

How's it working for Satan?

[@gregcampwriter]

@@craigsmith1443 According to the stories, he's doing well. He's been handed his own region and opportunity to gather followers.