Christians React To MGLA Exercises in Futility I!!!

[@markmckckck216]

Exercises in futility is one of the best albums ever

[@nils5471]

Truth

[@hgw27]

AGREE

[@m__zombi]

500%

[@deshawnelisha3331]

i know it's kind of off topic but does anyone know a good place to stream new series online?

[@mohammadalfonso6757]

@Deshawn Elisha I use Flixzone. Just google for it =)

[@realBlakeX]

Yes, a return to Mgła! No complaints here!

[@JFORTE77]

Sori, Black Metal is, and should be hypnotic. That´s what people search on this type of music, and this is what they get. A wall of sound which revolves around of you and traps you. A trance, a bridge that links your material existence with your essence. An inner dialog between the consciousness and the subconscious mind. The flowering of our deepest questions and fears, which haven´t got an actual answer, as "Exercises in Futility I" suggests.

[@nelsongollarza8617]

Fuck men.........1 That's a heavy thought but is true, that's why the music is so much catching

[@donzabonanza]

Black metal is shit.

[@slehlasezem]

@@donzabonanza haha the dude just wrote about how it's a reflection of self and you say it's shit:D I got some news for you

[@Wismerhil]

probably one of the best digest analysis of black metal music - thank you

[@alexlaw1892]

I don't feel that way with Mgla or BM in general but I know what you mean Burzum- Dunkelheit makes me feel that. Fucking amazing song. If anyone has suggestions for more BM in the same vein as that song I'll check some stuff out. I like that Varg made the vocals more subtle, one thing I don't like about BM is how the vocals are EQed way too high and feel like they're randomly dispersed on the track In post. They sit on top of the track instead of playing with it a lot of the time ends up fucking up the otherwise sick instrumentals. PS: This obviously isn't the case with this Mgla reaction vid, vocals sound pretty tasteful in this track (for BM at least.)

[@mihau8338]

this album is one of the best black metal album ever.i love it.

[@gieniulast7543]

Michał,ja piszę po polsku bez żenady. Fajnie, że ludzie za oceanem mają możliwość posłuchać i ocenić naszą muzykę.

[@NiemaLumiere]

@@gieniulast7543 , wtedy też napiszę coś po polsku: ten zespół jest jedną z przyczyn, czemu zacząłem się uczyć polskiego, i muzykanty w tym albomie "Ćwiczenia" zrobili wszystko, żeby się zakochać w tej muzykie. Przepraszam, jeśli mam wielu błąd. Po prostu trudno pisać. 🤟🏻

[@shafoxqcno0bs939]

If you need a book to tell you that killing is immoral and shouldn't be done, you're just a bad person.

[@PaganMusePagan]

Soo happy you both listened to this song! The entire album is absolutely amazing, every song is a masterpiece and the lyrics are very deep

[@vicenteraira]

I am glad you finally did Mgła (I refuse to write it without the charming Polish "ł") again! And I am also glad that I was one of the first pain-in-the-ass followers to request them on your Facebook. It seems like it blew Vin away exactly as I thought. :D These particular lyrics are their concept in a nutshell. The way they built the words in this is also a peculiar point, mixing a mature view of nihilism with some metaphoric narrative "backgrounded" with Greek and Norse Mythology. Take the "Styx" and "Yggdrasil" reference, for instance. Styx in one of the rivers of the underworld in Greek mythology, the one where Charon conduces its boat to take the souls to Hades realm - it means: Death. And in their song this river is being navigated by a barge made with the rest of Yggdrasil, which is the Tree of Life in Viking/Norse mythology. I interprete it as: life is pointless and the remains of the thing that originated it is now being used to roam towards the one inevitable path: Death. I may be wrong, but surely is something in this way. And, to Sori, I think that it is "repetitive" because the main point of Black Metal is to be hypnotic and almost mantra-like. Few bands, of any genre, can be able to manipulate such few riffs and build a melody and also an harmony that is so powerful that sounds like a tsunami of darkness coming for you like Mgła does. Darkside makes a superb work in his kit, his dexterity with the cymbals is quite unique. Monolithic riffs by mister M. complete the astonishing opus of these Poles.

[@chrisknight8734]

Don't forget the little known Thanatos(not Thanos but that's I think marvel got his name from). The Greek personification of death. Brilliant lyrics & some serious knowledge 🤘

[@vicenteraira]

@@chrisknight8734 Yeah! The god of Death itself. But it was too late when I wrote and I was too sleepy to type more. lol

[@chrisknight8734]

@@vicenteraira Fair play I'll let you off then lol A guy needs his beauty sleep 😉🤘

[@qretan3750]

Brilliantly written comment!

[@blainemono3544]

I interprete this fragment about Styx like this: when you see and you realize all this terrifying image of the world around, you finally start to wondering, to be not sure, if you are still alive or you died and you are in hell actually.

[@Numira]

my take on the lyrics.... lyrics: The great truth is there isn't one And it only gets worse since that conclusion The irony of being an extension to nothing And the force of inertia is now a vital factor my opinion: For me it means, that after realizing that there is no final destination or thruth for a human beeing or humanity, it got worse because people around you still havent realized it after 1000 of years of existence. and the extension of them seeking for a nonexisting thruth is the irony of them seeking and their futile existence itself, because it leads of them achieving nothing in their lifespan on this planet. force of inertia is a contrdiction since inertia is the resistance to the amount of force needed for an object to move... maybe because the intertia is getting stronger at the same pace the force is beeing pushed a dilemma of all religions but they need both a strong interia and force to survive. lyrics And there is despair underneath each and every action Each and every attempt to pierce the armour of numbness Burning bridges becomes a habit to support And the front line expands like there's no tomorrow my opinion the desperation of each action, of every human on this planet is futile since there is no real purpose other then the purpose of existing and the sadness behind that we are only a machine of our useless existence. every attempt we try to pierce through this thruth is numb and nonesense. it is numb cause we dont feel it in out everyday life, these attempts, because our armor made of thought for reasons of existence and our own self preserving and survival is so thick that it does not make us feel. all this reasoning becomes to much a habit of our whole life that we keep supporting it even though we burn right from the start we are born. the whole humanity is the burning bridge and each human is a wooden blank, that will exstent it further and faster then it can burn down. the frontline is the attempts we try to uphold that bridge and ressources we use, since it is growing in a unknown direction and we try to plan the bridge ahead to see something after our death and too see something after we faded away. lyrics I envy the maggots Their stuff at least sticks together Better than laudations of misinformed seers And those are lengthy annals of shame that we work with my opinion we can envy the lowest forms of life because they stick to their own kind in physical and psychological way. they dont try to change other beeing through their force and attempts they also wont force change through the things they leave behind, like buildings ect. but keep the circle of life in balance. they consume themselfs and consume what they leave behind but we spit our out words out and leave a trail of nonsense and infect others with them. with our leaders who praise wrong ideas and thus leave behind new generations who are blind from the beginning. with written words as leftowers for new ones to come to pick up the ideas we had but realize them to be shameful the moment we die. lyrics It's like dumping dead meat at the brink of Styx With a barge that we made of what was left of Yggdrasil After veterans of spiritual revolts were done with their armchairs And I don't even remember which brink is which my opinion we try to fill the gap between life and death. too see something after dead, to cheat dead and search for immortality. a life after death is for me the same and its arrogant. to fill the whole river with corpses of ideas, and dead people to ignore the rules of life and death. and use our arrogance to build something out of our own heritage and what was left of people befor us, to float above others and feel better and more important. people who hoped for change and saw the same things happened befor us were put to silence. and we dont even know where all the things started, why and what connects with what, since all religions and ideas are a labyrinth of roots that entangles and holds itself together. lyrics The odour of sanctity is just refined stench of existence Shining pearl of Augeas' crown pales in comparison my opinion the feeling of beeing at home is just a false security and hides the reality. its just a helpless attempt of protecting yourself and give a warmth to the cold world and the reality that everything around us is nothing. family, friends, religions, hope is only a upgraded variant of life. and the odour that bait us everyday to flee from the reality is nothing else then a parfume on our body that give us a false premise of existence. and still after parfume and everything we try its still dirty and ugly. using augeas filthy kingdom fuul of cattles to strnegthen that argument. shining pearl is a false premise. we think we are pure and clean in our eyes and crown ourself as the highest form of life and think us as kings even if our kingdom is dirty and futile lyrics The grotesque eagles of misfortune, well fed on thanatos, sit still It's the dignity of scavengers at the ever growing garbage dump of life my opinion we try to cheat death and refuse to let it take a hold on us more and more and longer and longer. humans are the eagles who are grotesque creatures but can be noble too and we feed on death itself and what it holds. we feed on the premise of an afterlife and use death as a instrument for people to believe in something. thanatos itself was cruel and cold but honest and we try to erase honesty cause it hurts us and our feelings. we want to ignore the brutal things and dont want to accept that we will be dust too, one day. so better we sit on that corpse of the death and feed on it. deaths corpse is endless so we can feed forever. we grow lazy and are becoming dirty even tho we are creature who have the ability to achieve more and are can go to many places like an eagly but rather sit still then looking for new ideas, when we already have enough ideas we can feed upon. why bother the effort? so we can thank the few people who are not ashamed to see what we are and try to clear the dirt we leave behind and find reason inside the every growing ideas and shit we produce in physical and psychological form. them try to erase the garbage we leave behind and dont feed on it rather recycle whats usefull. lyrics There is something about the rigid posture of a proper, authentic blind As if the extended arms reached to pass his blindness onto others my opinion we are drawn to statues, we are drawn to figures. motionlessness draws our attention, maybe we try to give life to it or try to change it or seek somethning inside. we underestimate the powers of words and look to much around us what moves and try to avoid it but forget about the true danger of silent things. we will accidently land in their grasp or because we are blind to the truth it is only a matter of time till we are completely ignorant to everything ourselfs. maybe we happily accept blindness and misinterpret open arms of ideas when in reality only nothingness and lies lay behind it and grow blind ourselfs but then stretch our arms in hope to grab something or someones hope and change it to your own useless existence and purpose. we constantly try to deceit others and dont even know we are already blind long ago but we makes us look like, we need help even tho we dont, just that we can infect others with our useless shit. Im sorry for the many mistakes. english is my secondary language and its not easy to express deeper thoughts in it, without seound repetitive or strange. i tried as much as i could but im pretty sleepy right now and my back hurts a lot. i dont claim any thruth since i happily admit that sometimes i try to give comfort for my egosistic self and views. just like my ideas spin out of maybe attempts to change the views of others. noneless i wanted to express myself, for my own benefit? maybe idnk. wish you all a good night. and maybe someone takes the time to read it and can identify or find it pure boring nonesense. both are a good conclusion not?:)

[@levischorpioen]

100% agree with this beautiful analysis!

[@noahblazier7648]

Great review!! It was an enjoyable read :)

[@TheWieleslaw]

Very nice

[@madzthedestroyer5964]

you on meth?

[@maxb.6434]

This is great

[@henieq]

KRIEGSMASCHINE - Residual Blight!!!

[@leonardomagalhaes6262]

YEEEEEES

[@l3v1at10n666]

Yes please do kriegsmachine

[@karolbak3758]

@VinAnd Sori, Kriegsmaschine is a project of Mgła musicians. You gonna like it! :)

[@berserker8884]

YEAAHHSSS, the drumming is out of this worllddd!!!

[@tarcisiojunior511]

None Shall See Redemption is better

[@johna.7235]

"The great truth is, there isn't one" As the hip hop heads say, that's coldddd

[@benwebb4424]

Vin, why are you acting like there are objective implications of nihilism? When you don't believe in anything, everything is up for personal interpretation so there can't logically be any objective implications. Acting as if your interpretation of it is the truest one is intellectually dishonest. Not everything is all dark and spoopy all the time. The universe is not a cold dark place, and the liberation from binding worldviews can be a beautiful reason to celebrate and live with joy. I'm not even a nihilist but turning it into a boogieman is absolutely ridiculous.

[@bjrnarbjrnarsson5845]

That's by far not the only ridiculous idea in this video. And Sori just nods her head to every crap coming out of Vin's mouth and says 'Yes!, Right!, Yeah!, Right!, Mhm!, Right..

[@benwebb4424]

@@bjrnarbjrnarsson5845 It is however a noteworthy idea because Vin brings it up a lot in a lot of videos. It's a recurring thing for him. It also reeks of hypocrisy because, as Vin has also said in many videos (the Theatre Of Tragedy one comes to mind as an example) that if you want to know what someone actually believes you should ask someone belonging to that group of believers. Why then, in this one case, does Vin project his thoughts unto nihilists instead of letting them express their autonomous views? Vin seems to exclusively talk about the nihilism that he agrees with - as if to invalidate the takes on nihilism that don't line up with his. I don't get why nihilism is such an issue for him but he comes across as unwilling to listen to them while simultaneously demanding that everyone should listen to his take on the issue - a person who by his own admittance has never been a nihilist. He tells people to read the bible to have a nuanced debate with Christians, but won't have a nuanced discussion of nihilism. Simply put, Vin is a stooge ass fuckboy.

[@eymophilia4952]

Vin just have an opinion on everything, and still thinks his opinion values even though a doesn't know a thing about what he's talking. The guy knows a lot of things about religion, for sure, it would be dishonest to claim otherwise. But good lord vin stop those "empowering speeches" when you don't know. I know that when you believe and you start to talk to people on the streets or on the Internet you have to act like this very educated man, but this is just bad acting.

[@argieStream]

Well, you kinda have to take the words of a true believer with a grain of salt. There are usually gems within the hubris that keep you entertained because they either make you think, laugh with them, or laugh at them. But in the end you always know there's something inherently wrong in there. Great content.

[@eymophilia4952]

Having faith in what you say isn't a problem at all, measured hubris isn't a problem if it's not biased by a systemic way of thinking. Since the beginning of this channel, Vin wants us to nuanced the christian clichés, and i agree with him on that. The problem is that his opinions aren't nuanced at all, due to his perpetual opinions. He doesn't let Sory talk that much, that's gently demagogic. You can say thoughtful things without having the honest intention of requestioning your own beliefs. And since he is a biblical Christians, Vin will never revisit his hubris, because he assumes he's right.

[@MEDVE1978]

And force of inertia is now a vital factor... You brought me to MGLA and I can't stop listening to it! I have become a fan.

[@eymophilia4952]

Clearly, Vin love hearing himself talking. As usual, especially in this video, according to my studies, Vin delivers a great speech about morality, even though he don't know what he's talking about, and continues to assume that a does. It is a reaction channel, no doubt, but when the song is over, it's preech time about christianity, in a direct way or a disguised one. And if Sory continues to agree about literally everything that comes out of Vin's mouth, he will feel even more empowered.

[@Podcir]

that's literally what religions are about, one person speaks more and louder than the others, the rest listens and follows blindly. how ironic is that, right?

[@sejerrasmussen6537]

@@Podcir Haha yea bro, religioners are fucking STUPID, they dont wake up the obvious LIES!!

[@jesusmetal92107]

has nothing to do with religion you cherry picking fuck face

[@jproffitt2192]

You guys should check out Windir - Journey to the End, and Burzum - Det Som Engang Var, or Lost Wisdom.

[@Hexen555]

That Windir song is so goood!!

[@АлександърГенчев-щ1э]

Definitely!

[@mightyravendark932]

Yes it`s definetly time for Windir. Journey..., Fagning or Svartesmeden og Lundamyrstrollet.

[@BNGRrec]

Burzum xD

[@jproffitt2192]

@@BNGRrec ?

[@syntheticsleep]

Ah, mgla!!! You guys really need to check out the Groza album. Groza II is probably my favorite mgla track so far, but I don't think there's any bad overs.

[@syntheticsleep]

*bad songs.

[@wu_the_wu_2137]

For me Groza is their best album. And the main riff in track Groza IV is insanely good

[@syntheticsleep]

Dude, Vin, I'm really glad you're getting into these guys and I can't wait for you to enjoy entire albums. Most of the good black metal, imo, is better as full albums. Dissection's Reinkaos, Rotting Christ's Rituals, and all of mgla's stuff are good examples of this, but there are many, many more. Watain also, for sure, pretty much their whole catalogue...

[@syntheticsleep]

Oh yeah, also Celtic Frost: Monotheist and Triptykon: Eparistera Daimones are amazing in this context, but you can also pretty much pull any track from either one and it's gonna be sick.

[@TheDretch]

I concur MGLA is of the elite elite! Not that my request or suggestion will meaning anything, but you would also LOVE Funeral Mist album 'Hekatomb;.

[@dawgel22]

You pronounced "Mgła" so well it surprised me, well done bro. I've seen them live in Katowice, Poland and I'm so happy I'm going to see them once more in this year's Brutal Assault in Czech Republic - because their concerts are literally amazing.

[@adl.4611]

Man, they're absolutely one of my favourite bands, and they played well at Brutal Assault 2019, but the audience was fucking terrible!

[@jasonbrown522]

Please, please, please delve deeper into the Norwegian black metal scene from the 90s. For God's sake, check out Ulver, Borgnagar, Arcturus..Kristoffer Rygg's bands. And check out other bands such as Negura Bunget, Forefather, Skyforger etc. They have good use of tremolo too. \m/

[@ArdensSedVirens1]

They've already done Darkthrone, Mayhem, Burzum, Gorgoroth (granted, the shit era of Gorgoroth), Satyricon, Enslaved, Dimmu Borgir (granted again, they suck), 1349, and I recall at least one or two times on stream where Vin has mentioned that he's listened to and likes Borknagar. I think it's okay if they maybe take a break from Norwegian black metal and listen to more black metal that isn't from Norway.

[@TheDretch]

I just saw Arcturus a few weeks. Absolutely mind blowing.

[@deadliestassassin3092]

90's Dimmu Borgir was awesome. Some Old Man's Child, Troll, Dodheimsgard, Enthroned, Agathodaimon, Hecate Enthroned, Opera IX, Ancient, Marduk, Ophthalamia, Impaled Nazarene, Ancient Ceremony, Evol, Winter Of Apokalypse, Absu, Melechesh, Arallu, Limbonic Art, In Aeturnum, Dawn, Sargeist, Horna, Windir, Mithotyn, Falkenbach, would be nice.

[@nelsongollarza8617]

Ulver is a really good shit.!

[@adrianasura6328]

All those bands are really, really good.

[@MsDarkblood666]

The Song clearly states that there is not "the GREAT truth".. not that there is no truth at all. Interessting how brains work to twist a sentence to each owns liking.

[@levischorpioen]

Vin has a reputation of confusing "truth" (meaning an inherent meaning of life that's rewarded beyond life itself) with "truth" (the universal concept that's the opposite of falsehood). He seems to think nihilists believe in the Matrix, that there truly is absolutely nothing and everything ever is but an illusion. It's funny to me how he clearly resonates with the intelligent lyrics, but seems to have absolutely zero understanding of the concepts described in them.

[@aramkaizer7903]

@@levischorpioen No I think quite the opposite. Look up Presuppositionalist Apologetics.

[@PearLock]

​@@aramkaizer7903 I know aaaall about presuppositionalist apologetics. If you want to have a very nerdy epistemological and philosophical argument and don't care to read a shit-ton, then proceed. Here's my response to presuppositional apologetics. Let me know if something isn't clear. 1. For one thing, someone can just flatly state the following: "There is a force out there in the universe that bestows to me and everyone else ultimate truth. It isn't conscious, and therefor isn't a god. It reveals truth to us all in such a way that we can all be certain of it's existence. It also reveals to me, and everyone else that there is no god." Aaaand now, there's a problem. You have two competing platforms, one is presuppositionally atheistic and one is presuppositionally theistic. You may say "oh, but presuppositionalist atheism is obviously made up, just so you could knock down presuppositional apologetic arguments!" And then I could just come back with, "No. And who are you to know what's true and what isn't? After all, you can't know anything unless you adopt my worldview, by definition." This next point I wrote as a response to the actual video. I've copied and pasted it all over the comments section to highlight another problem with presuppositional apologetics, but I think it was pretty thorough, so I'm posting it here: 2.​ "while I understand where you're getting your argument about how all philosophical worldviews presuppose a truth, you are however appealing to a definition of truth that is different than what a lot of philosophical worldviews disagree with. Truth is that which corresponds to reality, in most secular worldviews. And sure we can't objectively "know" anything to be true under that definition, due to the feedback loop that we perceive reality with our senses, and our senses are perceived to be true DUE to their comportment with reality (essentially, a circular argument, which is illogical), that's where a lot of philosophical worldviews ask the next question: What do we mean by "ultimate truth?" Because it appears as though ultimate truth can't exist, because it has never been demonstrated to. And even if we knew it, we wouldn't know that we knew it... of that makes sense. The next problem with appealing to god as a source of ultimate truth is the fact that there are some 20,000 different denominations of Christianity who all claim to be true. Not to mention, all of the other religions that make this appeal. And sure, you can deny your senses and just flatly state that all of these denominations simply don't exist. Just deny what you can see with your own eyes. But where does that stop? If your source of truth is god, than you'll have to deny anything that doesn't comport with scripture. And imagine the hell that will create in the world. You can carry that worldview all the way down to flatly denying the utility of medicine. "You can't cure leprosy with medicine. The bible says it's curable if you kill two birds with a stone, and sprinkle the blood of one of them onto the leper." Go ahead and divulge into that worldview. I'll stick with science and it's predictive qualities, in order to make the world better by finding cures, new technologies etc. all the while flatly ignoring the feedback loop problem, because I won't revert back to the stone age. And for the record, just because the alternative to your worldview is unnerving, that does nothing to demonstrate the truth of your worldview. Just because the alternative makes you sad. " If you actually read this and can understand it all, let me know. I love talking philosophy. Though, this may be difficult to understand unless you are familiar with philosophy, epistemology, etc.

[@ColinleGueux]

@@PearLock dunno if you're still here but do you know what can I read on this topic?

[@ZoniaTV]

Vin, you and I should talk about Nihilism. I have never genuinely applied that label to myself but, over the past ten years or so, I have slowly come to realize that "nihilist" is probably a fairly accurate description of me (to an extent).

[@karl_diamondeye]

But I don't avoid immoral actions because there is a mandate of heaven behind it, I avoid it because of empathy and sympathy that's coded in my DNA and the society I live in and their rules. I think it's a bit odd to say that there is nothing restricting you of doing bad things to people if there is no higher purpose, if everything in the end is nothingness. And I don't think that in itself is anything negative either, why can't we just enjoy the ride even though the way of things would be like that? I think the buddhist say that the most natural state of existance is nothingness, and there is no inherent sadness in that.

[@garritosk8cr571]

Well said senpai

[@TheWisestOwl]

Love the breakdown. The fact that you folks are open minded enough to breakdown Mgla makes me happy. Great breakdown of TRUTH. in general.

[@XanatosInEx]

And I really like that you went and reacted to mgla. Dimmu Borgir etc dont even belong in the genre at all and missrepresent the mindset and spirit imo. you are one of the few out here and I really respect that.

[@bc2752]

If the universe is eternal, without a creator, then there is no problem.

[@kgur]

this

[@ellisarnott3613]

That riff with the snare-heavy beat for the, I suppose, musical chorus, lives rent free in my head most days and has done for years.

[@chedgooch]

That break down gets ya guys pumped too!! It gave me goosebumps as well!! So good

[@thorragnarok7690]

Yeah first time i heard it, i actually started to cry. It's beautiful yet raw

[@EndreBarathArt]

there are black metal bands, where the youtube commenters are discussing about "are they satanists or christians?" :D (for example mgla, deathspell omega)

[@n3cr0he11]

Hi Vinand Sori, new MGLA album in May this year!!! hails from Poland \m/

[@landonlongon3439]

Okay.. Last time... der weg einer freiheit - aufbruch

[@BrekkaJones24]

I love how much Vin enjoyed this it's so nice to see him so happy :D I think you guys would enjoy listening to some melodic death metal bands like Amon Amarth, very pretty pagan stuff!

[@The_Pony]

1349 has new Material out/to be released just sayin' Taake or Sunn o))) would be fun tooooooooo

[@StuTheSoftwareAnalyst]

Dødskamp is phenomenal. Definitely agree with that one

[@pyfsecret]

One of the best bands in the genre for sure! The first time i heard this album i was stunned, by the end hypnotized. Been digging into the Atmospheric Black metal a lot after that, but i didnt find anything close to this so far.

[@spudpotat24]

Can we get more draconian please? Rivers between us. Death come near me, pale tortured blue. Stellar tombs. Pretty Pretty Pretty please!

[@leonardomagalhaes6262]

Mgla - With Hearts Towards None II

[@chestbuster1987]

And III .. and VII ..

[@internalfire11]

II is perfect for black fire, and III is a must!

[@Vahisofficial]

III is MUST!!

[@Bryce-xj9ye]

Just do a full album listen, it's easier than picking and choosing songs!

[@rico4974]

VII !!

[@intergalacticspacecanoe4659]

Vin had a good train of thought, but eventually fumbled with his own hubris . He has only one, very faulty view of nihilism and assumes everything just happens to follow the concepts he believes in. Thats a bit dishonest

[@intergalacticspacecanoe4659]

hes basically talking but not listening, which itself renders the topic of this video brutally accurate, up to the extent they never actually meant it to be.

[@sicfrynut]

@@intergalacticspacecanoe4659 maybe someone should suggest they do a live podcast interviewing someone who understands nihilism . have they (sori and vin) ever done one of these videos where they played a video and then discussed it with the audience in a live discussion ?

[@blainemono3544]

When you are drifting on the Styx and you don't even remember which brink is which - this is the best definition of severe depression that I have encountered. Depression stole four years of my life, and this song is perfect exemplification of nihilistic state of my mind during these years. True story. Now I'm better, I'm on the surface again, but I still love this song, how extremely profound it is.

[@thispastspring3733]

I know this is getting on to a month ago since you did this video, but I finally came to a point I listened again and again to it and decided I should say that this desire to wanting to be a part of a community, juxtaposed against the dismay of community and understanding has stemmed an incredible amount from literally decades of bullying that I have personally experience on all sorts of levels. I would consider myself a spiritual person today, in an omnist sort of way, but it is utterly maddening and crippling. I can't speak anything about the life experiences of the artist(s) here. I've always found it a strange thing, though, in my own life that people and people a part of communities pride themselves often of inclusion and bringing people together but then single handedly and right at the same moment push people away in a multitude of ways. Somehow I encountered it through peers and teachers in Bible schools, in public schools, and in workplaces, in a lot of other spectrums. I even witnessed it happening to others and it only pushed my morbid curiosity with the "why" even further. It was only when I grew further and further away and cared less and less about these places and organizations that I slowly began to realize he truth of how wrong they were about me and I began to garner some self-esteem that I feel like I really began to see things as they are and were. A lot of questions still remain. But in the end, a sort of pointless bullying was really what spurned these very similar feelings and thoughts in me that you were both discussing. Since then I have tackled and accomplished a lot of things that people always doubted me for, sometimes with my understanding that there was no serious basis to begin with. I might put this video on the healing experience level. The fact that you, as Christians, saw this, discussed this respectfully, and came to some very interesting conclusions was great to me. So, thank you! I'm hoping you do more MGLA in the future.

[@bmfan]

You guys did 3 songs so far, I, V, and VI. You guys still need to get around to their previous album, With Hearts Toward None. It's arguably even better.

[@internalfire11]

WHTN 3 is a must!

[@chrisknight8734]

Agreed 🤘🤘

[@1uckywanderboy519]

Exercises in Futility is like a fine wine, WHTN is like a nice IPA... I LOVE BOTH BTW

[@b.entranceperium]

It's one of the best for sure

[@bjrnarbjrnarsson5845]

Vin is a proper, authentic blind who passes his blindness onto others.

[@AoLIronmaiden]

How so?

[@bjrnarbjrnarsson5845]

Well, he said he's some kind of religious leader and people ask him for advice. You get the idea

[@garritosk8cr571]

Sooooo true

[@AoLIronmaiden]

@@bjrnarbjrnarsson5845 just because he's a religious leader doesn't automatically pin him to the "blind" box. Sure, he has his ideological lens, as most people do, but that's not instantly or inherently connected to blindness. He's a pretty cool and open minded person. Just because he believes in Christian God doesn't mean he's hurting others with his perspective.

[@bjrnarbjrnarsson5845]

​@@AoLIronmaiden To Vin it is Gawd first and family second (yes, he said that). Imagine one of his children is gay. Or an atheist. You get the idea. And he said you can't see stars from space. So he must be blind ;)

[@CrimsonAltar]

I'm surprised you didn't touch on the quote by Emil Cioran at the end knowing you read stuff like Nietzsche. Very powerful song. Love it

[@KiviKalastaja]

I never thought I would be introduced to so much great Metal music, much less Black Metal, by a couple of Christians. MGLA is one of them. I own a bunch of their stuff now. Them and Kriegsmaschine. Thanks. I love how you pronounced their name right.

[@thorragnarok7690]

These guys are what i want christians today to be

[@findoe8586]

Awesome album, you can be a futilist in your world view recognizing the day to day theater and self deception is pointless and leads to nothing while holding a great sense of purpose as to his union with God. its primarily to set it's contrast between conscious and unconscious. It's the death of the unauthentic self which man lives the majority of his life in, when you do away with the script there is no need to prop up the ego construct with its mindless actions and brings the authentic self in line with reality/truth or a metaphoric death and resurrection.

[@TheMyOwnSaviour]

My most often listened album in 2018, and they are from my city - Kraków in Poland, i feel proud to say the least

[@Vahisofficial]

Sometimes Vin is trying to sound too smart and ultimately end up tripping on his own words without admitting it.

[@bc2752]

Great shirt vin! Will try to get one. Should be a hit in alabama.

[@jasonbrown522]

Oh, could some Patreon member also get them to react to Into the Painted Grey by Agalloch? MGLA lifted a lot of tremolo riffs from that song. :) Also Faustian Echoes would be a great piece to react to.

[@wawawawawiwa]

Faustian Echoes, yes please.

[@kevinbartolen5881]

Opeth - Baying of the Hounds, Demon of the Fall (Roundhouse Tapes)

[@manosassassin]

It's 2 am, i just came back from a behemoth show in Brussels. I was about to sleep but now i see a video by you guys about mij FAVORITE black metal band. I have school tomorrow. Not sleepin yet it seems

[@Ejolf]

Best Metal Reaction Channel on KZbin. Please never stop making cool Reactions.

[@KK-vf7sb]

Yes the guitars repeat over and over same riff but there`s also a lot of great drumming that makes recording more atractive (In my opinion)

[@horompolierik3590]

At 33:39 Sori tells Vin - in a sort of throw-away sentence - that the girls are loud and then Vin shouts at them to be quiet?

[@VinAndSori]

🤣🤣🤣

[@eddyvan7782]

Looks like you throw that dvd across the room. LOL

[@montymcclellen1918]

Drudk - "Sunwheel" excellent black metal from the Ukraine! Walknut - "Motherland Ostenvegr" cold atmospheric bm from Russia! That's right, WALKNUT!

[@BlasphemousWarfare]

Upvote for Walknut. I'd like to add 'Stielas Storhett'.

[@zombiTrout]

Nokturnal Mortum- Valkyrie

[@yashalavva]

Walknut da suka

[@haubitzenbomber616]

Oh yeah, one of my favorite polish black metal. Please listen to with towards to none III

[@HumayunQureshi]

I saw MGŁA in Sydney a couple of years back. They put on a great show.

[@desiccant]

Novembers Doom - Autumn Reflection 385+

[@samseison]

I think I am running out of doom ins coming jokes xD Man.....can't wait to see what you will write in the comment section when this song finally gets the spotlight

[@bestowner767]

Finally!!! Thank yall for finally getting to EinF I

[@thorragnarok7690]

Wow i didn't see you doing this! Such an MGLA fan Vin!

[@marcp.1752]

You guys should review Paysage d'Hiver - Über den Bäumen. (Over the trees).

[@danthropomorph]

"The irony of being an extension to nothing" mic drop

[@svekat5850]

Queen The Show Must Go On

[@SimonH109]

Glad you liked it. I also love this one. In my opinion though, you've done the top 3 songs on EiF at this point. The rest of the album is great but I, V and VI are noticeably above the rest. I'd echo the recommendations for either With Hearts Towards None I or VII

[@markmckckck216]

Finally I’ve been waiting for this one. Also, Vin quit the soda bro that shit is poison.

[@MarkBuckle]

Please do the official 'watchers' video from Mayhem or the entire "De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas alive" gig :p

[@alfonso4955]

This track really connects to the soul, it's so layered and has so much depth. Darkside (drummer) is an absolute beast! Always said he must have octopus ancestry to play like that! Awesome awesome band.

[@albatrossyglossy]

I love how 6 months later, she's weirded out and he's grown into them so much!

[@ExplosiveAction]

Correct reaction from Vin. This album is impeccable. Was lucky to see them live in Australia two years ago, fantastic set. "But it was the same thing over and over and over" ~Sori < That's black metal. In its nature, it's repetitive. Songs structures like this let you float away with the music, in an almost meditative way, I find. Which is a funny thing to say about black metal. Definitely make your next Mgla song "Further down the nest I". The main trem riff is the grandfather to the one in Exercises in Futility I.

[@mrmattycake]

Vin, I love your shirt!!

[@geovannyrave5569]

In Flames - Moonshield or Jotun Old Melodeath lml

[@Chill-mm4pn]

Geovanny Rave Jotun is sick af, that whole Whoracle album would be a great review for them.

[@BradCynical]

another thing about nihilism is not that its all negetive. A big part of nihilism is that life is what you make of it. So if life is meaningless it means that life is what you make of it. If you truely think this way then you are what you are, you do what you can. Its very freeing

[@Kondzio717]

The last line alone, the one about the blind, slays all other BM lyrics.

[@drheim1]

Pretty cool you guys do Mgla, Behemoth, Batushka and other awesome bands, keep up the good work! Mgla rules!

[@arismaiden6457]

Hey guys! Really like how you explore so many stuff, the discussions after the reactions, your honest opinions etc. Shows you are true metal fans, and true music fans in general, much respect to you for that. Mgla is my favourite black metal band too, together with Rotting Christ. Check out He, the Aethyr from Rotting Christ, I think you 'll love it. Best wishes for the little guy!

[@arismaiden6457]

Now, about the nihilism stuff... It's a good topic, and Mgla use it very creatively here, but tbh I believe futility is really futile itself, if that makes sense. I 'm not Christian, I 'm agnostic, but I think life has a meaning and a purpose in and of itself. Either you believe in god or not, you can have moral compass, a purpose and an ideology that gives you ground to stand. The way I see it, Jesus (which was a historical figure, either you believe he was god or not) was a philosopher and a rebel of his time, who wanted and believed a better world was possible, based on certain morals and ethics, just like Socrates in ancient Greece, or Gandhi in India. You can also find many parallels between Jesus and figures of recent history, like MLK or even John Lennon! For example, why isn't MLK's "I have a dream" speech like an updated summary of the word of God? Same goes for the lyrics of John Lennon's "Imagine". Like Jesus, they were both smeared and hated by the establishment of their time, because their vision of a better world that was possible posed a threat to their power. And just like Jesus, they were assassinated by the establishment of their time. I 'm not trying to be blasphemous or disrespectful towards your beliefs guys, I hope you understand that. I just wanted to give my pov to the discussion.

[@TheMightyMana]

It's like dumping dead meat at the brink of Styx With a barge that we made of what was left of Yggdrasil oof

[@Tom135]

going to see them live next month in manchester, can't fucking wait

[@gieniulast7543]

You got the [MGŁA] fever. Will grow. They are one of the best band this time.No excuse,no shit.

[@frantisekvtelensky820]

Repetion is the key in creating great atmosphere. And atmosphere is the core of black metal. If you listen to Rotting Christ, Mgla, Drudkh, late Immortal, Forteresse, Kampfar, etc., you can hear a great example what repetion can do with songs when it is use wisely. It's almost hypnotic and when you, as a musician, know how to create great melodies with trem. picking, it can be a hell of a song like this one! 🤘

[@Birmanncat]

@VinAnd Sori "best part of 2018" Same for me too. This album helped me survive the entire year. I still hear parts of the songs in my mind daily...

[@Cuervo47]

The point about Ygdrassil, is that its a tree that cant die. But it if theres something left, its because Ygdrassil is dead.

[@420Teixeira]

Can you guys do more reviews about MGLA. You guys give the best insight by far, of all the "reaction videos" of any kind. Really good stuff. I also feel theres more meaning to mgla's lyrics than it seems and you guys break it down really well.

[@metalbased9267]

You guys need to check out "Der Weg einer Freiheit". They make exactly this type of riffy melodic black metal vin loves so much. Start with "Der stille Fluss" or "Aufbruch".

[@TheWitchOvAgnesi]

Exercises in Futility stands alongside Anthems in terms of its beauty. Maybe it won't have a great an impact as Anthems did, but it is undeniably a groundbreaking release (though they of course broke ground on their previous work).

[@KreshDraven6]

YES !! More black metal here AND it's MGLA...That's what I'm talking about

[@milangabris8101]

Amorphis - The Bee .. or song called Under the red Cloud ( it's melodic death metal band from Finland)

[@pariskotsaros]

No one will upvote for this band but whatever: Macabre Omen - I See The Sea For people who like their black metal epic and full of memorable riffs

[@jameswall9617]

I know...

[@martinjohnson2549]

Hi Guys, the way for me to live with as I call it:"hyper awareness of profound absence of meaningfulness" coming from abandoning belief in god, is just not thinking about it, by dosing hedonism, Freud's Pleasure Principle, it took me some time to master it, it was dark and cold at the begining, but now I'm real good at it. Like Your channel anyway. Cheers from Poland (polish guy from London actually)

[@rifspid1343]

Please review* Vintersorg *album (Odenmarkenson) Also *borknagar* (Colossus ) Another is *Forefather* (Ours is the kingdom) Some more *threshold* prog metal *sonata arctica* (Victoria’s secret) anything from winter hearts guild, *Ensiferum* (sword chant) Please would like to see reaction and tell us what you think! Cool channel here enjoying your reviews on this music.

[@CringepaganFTW]

Mgla Excercises in Futilty V is my jam.

[@matthewlopes832]

I study theology, wanted to go into ministry, saw the scam in religion. Saw the title of this video and was ready to cringe. I was pleasantly surprised to see that their was no ignorance in this analysis. Good people here, I hope their spiritual path leads them to their truths.

[@craigthecraig9176]

I enjoyed watching your excitement towards the song whilst it was playing but I don't listen to the theorizing afterwards, but I have to say I felt the same excitement when I first discovered MGLA- Exercises in futility in 2017 it took me back to my youth and discovering pure metal.

[@Roastedpotato1441]

Ahhh such stunning music and from my country ❤❤

[@tired8788]

Great breakdown.

[@JadeCurtiss34]

Revocation - Blood Atonement Obscura - Septuagint Limbonic Art - A Venomous Kiss Of Profane Grace

[@tomasruzic6917]

If you like MGLA you should check out Kriegsmaschine. It's a MGLA side project with the same band mebers, just that they release some songs as MGLA and some as Kriegsmaschine with slightly different themes and style. They released a new record in late 2018 called "Apocalypticists", you should check it out. MGLA is also releasing a new record in 2019

[@b.entranceperium]

Dark and atmospheric! 🤘 Do Sargeist - Let the Devil In

[@fjolkyngi218]

Hell ya. Behexen and horna as well.

[@chestbuster1987]

You may have added a bit of 'extra' intent to the song writer but who knows, maybe you're right.. Anyway, any Mgla video is good. Please check out some songs from "With Hearts Towards None" or just keep going through "Exercises.."

[@karankathayat6318]

I thought her coughing was a part of the song lol

[@saptarshighosh5079]

😆😆😆

[@zothanes]

Architects (UK) - Holy Hell was the best metal album of 2018, better than Behemoth’s album according to Metal Hammer and Kerrang readers poles. That album and the one before it All Our Gods Have Abandoned Us are twin albums on this subject. They are both awesome, check them out when you can.

[@megatallica100]

One thing I noticed you missed, in your previous mgla reaction videos you asked what the album cover was about, check out the last line of this song, they have a talent of bringing their whole albums into full circle, usually referring to something they said earlier in the album in the last songs, these guys are incredibly intuitive and creative and you will always find new hidden meanings in their music, they’re number because even though each song may differ slightly, each album has a motif that the songs build on

[@thispastspring3733]

You really need to read the Bardo Methodolgy interview with MGLA. Excellent stuff and information, very interesting. You may have to buy the printed copy for the whole interview but it is all worth it!