Arcade1Up's Horrendous Downfall Needs To Be Studied

[@joshallanmpls4495]

Ms. Pac-man and Pac-Man cannot be packaged together due to rights issues.

[@RetroChristocream]

Thats crazy, how come thats the case?

[@SoulforSale]

Separate licensors

[@JomasterTheSecond]

@@RetroChristocream In the 2000s, Namco decided to release a Ms. Pac-Man anniversary cabinet out of either defiance or negligence to a previous understanding between Midway, Namco and General Computer Corp, the developers, who were supposed to retain royalties to the game in coin-operated arcade context. General Computer Corp sued as Namco did not give them any royalties. Namco owns the rights to the character and IP, but not the program if I recall correctly. In 2019 the royalty rights were transferred to ATGames in Hong Kong. Since then, Namco has tried to erase Ms. Pac Man, the game _and_ character, from history, replacing her with legally distinct looking characters. It's exhausting and complicated and I hate it.

[@davy_K]

@@RetroChristocream Different game devs. Pac Man was Namco. Ms Pacman was a hack of Pacman created by a US company called GCC who eventually went "legit".

[@nebulapig]

not only that, but the Ms. Pac-Man character has been altered in Pac Land. She is now called Pac-Mom, i believe her bow is gone and she has a hat.

[@doordashdriver]

people just buy the cabinets and putting their own mini PCs inside to play every game ever made

[@RetroChristocream]

I wanna buy a crappy one off facebook sometime and put a mini pc inside it. I just need to figure out wtf I am doing and get the money

[@doordashdriver]

@ you and me both brother

[@localh]

@@doordashdriver Yup

[@user-vi4xy1jw7e]

That or buying a prebuilt for over $1k.

[@gringohispanic]

@@doordashdriver which cabinet should I buy to do this? I'm torn between the MvC/MvSF and the Simpsons one.

[@BrianTBooher]

Your argument on how badly things have become at the company ended when you said that you would still be buying the cabinets. If you really want them to change their ways, you have to demand better and not buy anything until they do. Otherwise why should they bother spending money to improve their product when you are willing to buy what is already out there?

[@majoraslayer64]

I spent like the first 3 minutes of the video mentally screaming "MAME!!!" at my screen.

[@superintends]

Are you threatening us?

[@RetroChristocream]

lol I have mame on my pc for other games, but nothing beats standing infront of those machines

[@viewtifuljon8105]

@@RetroChristocream You can just buy a plywood kit and proper Sanwa/Seimitsu parts and make your own. Have you PC boot straight to Retrobat (or whatever) and it will be a seamless experience.

[@brianstuntman4368]

@@RetroChristocream Put a PC in a custom built cabinet?

[@afterglow-podcast]

@@RetroChristocream Building a Mame machine is a great option. I've built a couple, with my current incarnation being VERY space efficient. An X-Arcade Tankstick Max on a pedestal with 2 Sinden light guns and a PC built in the bottom of the pedestal with a projector. Just roll the stand out 6 to 8 feet from the wall, pull my projector screen down and game. When I am done I just roll the screen up and push the pedestal back against the wall.

[@Disaster_Squad]

Spending several hundred dollars on a single rom is just bad in general

[@tmapes1989]

People could deal with $300. $700-$800 is asinine!!!

[@Jac2Mac]

One can only wonder why Arcade1Up didn't do a Toaplan shmups cabinet with stuff like Sky Shark, Twin Cobra, and Truxton.

[@b.o.4492]

1-UP has always been about ripping off the casuals with substandard hardware and extremely poor customer service.

[@MrDirkles]

@@b.o.4492 isn't that every company in existence🤔

[@b.o.4492]

@ well yes it is. But their lack of customer support is legendary.

[@TheCoolinator1]

I agree with most of the things you said except that real arcades "break down" all the time. I've had a Atari Deluxe Crystal Castle cabinet from 1983. Works perfectly, the only thing I needed to do is replace the rollers.

[@RetroChristocream]

Thats cool, I had some neighbors with arcades and they were constantly going down. That must be amazing having crystal castle

[@davy_K]

Yep - they were built to last in an arcade so will last far longer at home.

[@daishi5571]

I want you to look at these two things and tell me what is wrong "Works perfectly" - "Needed to replace the rollers" I'm playing.... not Crystal Castles you fortunate git but I'm playing 🙂

[@dawnpatrol700]

I still love them . I've got 17 now and I'm out of room lol. I'm not a huge gamer, but my dream as a kid was having my own arcade. I still have 6 of the old cookie cutter style ones. I added light up marquees; so they look better. Space Invaders and Rampage hardly sold, so those DEFINITELY won't be re-released

[@ManuTheDeath]

You should consider yourself lucky, here in europe we barely had these to buy. There's no Konami games, No Killer Instinct, No Sega games like Golden Axe or Outrun. We cannot buy these!

[@Microbex]

@@ManuTheDeath Why?

[@KingKrouch]

I remember trying an Arcade 1Up system at Walmart once, the buttons and joysticks feel extremely cheap next to a fightstick with sanwa buttons. If those concave buttons are how arcade buttons felt back in the day here in the states, that's pretty unfortunate.

[@RetroChristocream]

what a yapper

[@ShinobiShaman]

What's wrong with AtGames Legends arcade? I own one.

[@RetroChristocream]

@@ShinobiShaman I prefer A1ups designs that they try to mimic the original cabs, other than that atgames is cool. I was gonna get a legends cab to get that USB stick shit but im gonna mod an a1up instead with a pc

[@DennisAlexy]

All comes down to good ol' American Greed. That is the downfall to many great things.

[@CreepyUncleIdjit]

"The final nail in the straw" I'm stealing that Biffism.

[@AtlTJL]

Preach! I was so happy to get the Mortal Kombat II machine. Then, a few months later, they released a new one with a better monitor, the proper aspect ratio, CRT filters, and the ability to alter the difficulty without bricking the board. My biggest issue with Arcade1Up is they don't support their products. I'd gladly buy an upgraded monitor and install it, and they could easily update the software with a firmware flash. But they won't. They just want you to buy the new one. Like you said, after a while, you just say nope.

[@Lazor226]

Man, I just started to like arcade 1up when they stopped doing the cookie cutter designs. I bought the class of 81 deluxe for the cabinet. lol

[@playndisplay]

"i hate this company and their products suck". "I will keep giving them my money".

[@RetroChristocream]

I hate the company, i love the products*

[@TroutButter]

It's called "wood grain" not "stupid brown color" lol. And wood grain kicks ass. :P

[@btr3k]

Also want to mention, this is probably an attempt to recreate the smaller arcade versions (called cabarets, sometimes "minis") that were made for smaller spaces such as bars and were usually woodgrain (though Atari made some cool sticker artwork for some of their cabarets). Anyway, Pac-Man cabaret has its own distinct shape so much like the other Arcade 1-up cabs, still doesn't look good IMO. But to each their own. edit - oops shoula watched further, this is addressed at 8:42

[@timothymansker6177]

Dec. 2019 I purchased a Centipede/Asteroids Deluxe cabinet... I'm so glad it came with almost a dozen games.

[@DrGamelove]

Prices went up, sales went down. I personally was under halfway done building my little arcade and they decided “these should cost over twice as much and have less games.” So I stopped buying, pretty simple. It’s a shame though I NEED a Smash TV cab.

[@m60a3tts1]

Smash T.V. will be expensive. Hint: K.L.O.V.

[@ULTIMATEPATCHES]

They did the same fuckup with the Tempest cab (putting a horizontal monitor instead of the original vertical - dumb! However the artwork is great and they got the shape correct.

[@stephanel6637]

their prices go up so much (1UP!!!) that it become only a collector item!

[@Cookie_Slayer405]

I bought a 1up cabinet and modified it with better joysticks and buttons and modded it with a PC inside that plays all arcade games. They are fun to mod and make them your own.

[@ChuckE.CheesesIllinois]

They should drop the 2018 cabinet prices down to like 100 dollars

[@emperorIng360]

My favorite Arcade1up aspect is having the Namco collection and having Xevious, a game with diagonal movement, with a stick that only had 4 way movement.

[@darthxellaa912]

Great analysis. You hit it right on the head. It's pretty clear the licenses left with John D, as the titles they've released in the last few years are a joke.

[@lightsonthunderroad8044]

Yes there are a lot of gripes with A1Up. They haven't don't a spectacular job, but they're not offering full-size industrial releases. You know ahead of time it's IKEA packaged thin MDF. Certain things you talk about need research. Licensing is one of them. "Just put Ms Pac-Man on the same machine with Pac-Man". Bally and Namco have had a licensing rights issue for both of these games and one solution was they can never be combined on a single machine. Licensing for the other "where is" list of "I want these games", you'll never get them. Nintendo will NEVER license their IPs (like Donkey Kong) to A1Up. They will make something themselves first and only if THEY want to make it! Last, everyone shits on A1Up and even when they listen to the changes you request, they still get shit on. As you said, you're still going to buy A1Up even with ALL your gripes, so just don't gripe or make the changes/mods you want to make it better.

[@RetroChristocream]

Well they aren't going to last another 5 years, the company will go bankrupt. They cant just release pacman, golf, and basket ball and nothing else for the years to come like how they been doing. Stores are already ghost towns to A1up not selling them anymore. These things are meant to be small toys which is why I loved them cause they can fit in my house and easily be moved around. If they dont release classics that everyones been begging for (besides donkey kong) and release the same thing we bought 5 times over, whos gonna keep on buying them

[@fclefjefff4041]

“Horrendous downfall” is comically dramatic, and no, it doesn’t need to be studied. 😂 Clickbait culture is so weird.

[@50shadesofbeige88]

I think for $900 it better come with Sanwa switches. End of story.

[@A-1-Sawce]

100% agreed. I'm an unabashed Street Fighter fan and really want one but i tried out the sticks and am not a fan. Better off buying a custom one for me.

[@truckingwithatablet4489]

Obvious 1up did not learn from Atari.

[@nick4088]

I knew these wouldn't last. There's emulators out there like raspberry pies.

[@RetroChristocream]

True but idiots like me dont even know how to work those things. I also like the convenience that A1up has and the arcade feel when playing

[@nick4088]

@RetroChristocream lol. True. But you should use one of those into the cabinets. It boots just a fast.

[@TroutButter]

That's missing the point entirely.

[@TonyTheTGR]

People wanted more and more advanced hardware, and this made the base product scale back towards that prohibitively expensive price point that the original "cookie cutter" design got us away from. And yeah... they're pushing this updated hardware with basically the same software/games packages, and there's no reason to have 12 Pac-Man cabs.

[@ShawnWarren-o8b]

Legends Ultimate is so much better. Right out of the box with a little search, you can get a USB drive plugged in an play just about every game, with trackball, with spinners, with joysticks.

[@apocalypticminister1369]

Dude some of the complaints are unwarranted... I understand why people are not happy with Arcade 1up but this is ridiculous!!! Don't buy them if you don't want them, simple...

[@Major73Problem]

They were great at $300, even $400. $500 pushing it and at $700 forget it.

[@therexershow]

You sound like the most unhappy happy customer . It also sounds like an unhealthy codependency, and that in the long run, you just want to experience the real thing, yet you know 1up will never give the experience of the real thing, but you keep going back for more.

[@pinball8701]

Yes. The buyer remorse is strong with this one.

[@MikeLikesChannel]

I have Class of 81 and the MKii deluxe cabs. I'm kind of out of space, and it's enough retro gaming for a family. And therein lies the problem for A1U.

[@boilerhousegarage]

I didn't know William Shakespeare was into Arcade1Up machines! 😆

[@jimpacersfan]

Interesting view point. I am sure you have noticed, we the community are not there target market.

[@fourthhorseman04]

We the community are very small in numbers. A few thousand sales won’t keep the lights on. They need to reduce the base cost and offer different versions for different audiences. Basic $299 deluxe $399 xl $499. This 700-1000$ cabinets for 3 games is wild. lol

[@jimpacersfan]

@@fourthhorseman04 It is hard to keep the hope alive for the variety there use to be or could be. I wonder if the cabinets released next year will be the new slim design, which I am not a fan of. I also wonder if A1Up has to change the cabinet design with the ThinkUp litigation that may or may not be going on.

[@fourthhorseman04]

@@jimpacersfan it’s hard to imagine that’s the reason. If the cabinets are replicas of the original design then they’d have to have copyrights to the design which seems unlikely. More likely, they were trying to save costs. Smaller, lighter for shipping.

[@RetroChristocream]

Thats exactly what Im wishing arcade1up does in 2025. Just redesign their stuff and only start selling basic, deluxe, and XLs to clean up everything. Their website went from being a mess of 9999999 cabinets, to literally I think 7 cabinets are on there now, it just needs tons of cleaning up and polishing. The covid days were the best with all those releases and fixing community problems when we were the target market. Management had to change somewhere because it feels like A1up is just ran off investors (is the company public IDFK and im too much of a lazy shit to google it) because all they do is play everything safe. Dragons lair and Tron are like shit arcade games with 2 games each on them, yet they were extremely successful experiments because arcade1up did them right and targeted the community. Now they just play it safe and release the same stuff over and over again to people who already bought that

[@Martini_Mcfly]

I hadn't kept up with 1-Up in a while, but this doesn't surprise me. The Pac-Man ridiculousness you pointed out was exactly why I decided to no longer chase these. I got the XL, but even then, navigating the market to get the "best one" was far more effort than it was worth. It's called "double dipping" and it's a great way to alienate a customer base.

[@pinball8701]

My main issue is the small cabinet and monitor size. They should offer the option of a fullsize cab. They would sell a lot of those e.g. for people wanting to do MAME mods. The ones I've bought have been where they have non-standard controls e.g. Star Wars, Deer Hunter. Anything joystick-based is easily reproduced in other ways. But even then, damn the screen is small :-(

[@JinzoCrash]

--UNLIT marguees. --BAD buttons. --WEAK controller springs. --"RISERS" lol. --PacMan and Ms.Pacman never on the same board. --CLICKING buttons and joysticks. (ugh!) Honestly, just create / buy your own LARGE cabinet, grab some emulators and roms off the internet, and add an LED marquee that displays whatever game you're playing. BOOM.

[@MistressPandora93]

"In 2015 I shit my pants"roll credits

[@BobLee-df4zh]

I built a MAME cabinet, full size a D completely customized with light up marquee and everything, for the same price as one of these things. I've said all along they're nothing but rich people toys. Not for actual gamers and collectors.

[@spongebob03]

I saw the thumbnail and for a second thought, it was about the old gaming site 1UP. 😂

[@EinhanderPilotSantos]

Im happy with my NBA JAM 4 player cab, MK2 Deluxe and MVC1 because they all have different button layouts so when it comes time to mod then they’ll feel more genuine.

[@Bored_Barbarian]

8:27 I mean, I like the one where Raiden isn’t an albino for no reason and has his normal skin tone.

[@MunchieLuknight]

they were never the only game in town. The best method was always building your own cabimet, and sticking one of your old out of date computers inside it How real did it look? depends on you. How well did it perform? way better

[@RetroChristocream]

im 21 years old with no idea how to build my own cabinet or even get those 60 in 1 shits running

[@kilamajaro1085]

@RetroChristocream it's pretty easy all you need to do is wire your JAMMA harness parts side up to your 5 voltage power supply but make sure it's a Japanese jamma not the Chinese one as the ports are a bit different then wire those to your player 1 and 2 controls now...🤣🤣🤣

[@50shadesofbeige88]

I'd be willing to bet a dollar that the incorrect cabinet artwork has something to do with licensing.

[@TMS5100]

it does. for example the tron cabinet artwork had to be changed due to licensing issues.

[@generaldimension9799]

honestly i like the multicade idea having a bunch of games on one cabniet for 300 aint bad but who tf wants pacman plus?!?!

[@KevBell1701]

Kinda answered your own question - they would rather you buy two cabinets. It's been years since they released anything cool, I'm afraid. Bring on Q-Bert!

[@arcadeguy781]

I think these cabinets should be $399.99 max (maybe $499.99 for a game based on a TV show or movie for licensing reasons), but that’s it. $299.99 in 2018 is roughly $376in 2024 money.

[@Bored_Barbarian]

2:39 I’ve considered it in the past at $300 if the right system came along just for the novelty, but at 500-600+, no.

[@illustreightr2630]

They should never have stopped making PartyCades. It was the one form factor I liked since the “milk crate riser” versions.

[@truckingwithatablet4489]

Or you could do what I did it my youth buy the actual arcade machines. It's not that much more expensive for higher quality.

[@DanSchuhrke]

I scream this to the rooftops at anyone who will listen. Real arcades and pinball are infinitely more rewarding to own. And we all didn't know how to repair them at one point until we owned one and learned on it.

[@RetroChristocream]

I want real ones, im just a broke college student who cant afford it, cant fit them in my small place, and dont know how to repair them

[@pinball8701]

@@RetroChristocream I would argue that one good quality MAME cab is worth 20 A1Ups.

[@exidy-yt]

@@pinball8701 agreed 200%

[@RubyJones-zj4fu]

@@exidy-yt disagree 500. I move alot my neo geo 4 slot out of a basement about killed me. No more Street fighter. Where the hell is Star Wars reissues ????

[@TacticalDingus]

They need to focus on multicades like Arcade Legends ultimate. WITH good games on them. It's a really one off thing to have 1 tiny cheap arcade that plays like 3 games. If something's going to be in my room that's taking up huge amounts of space I don't want it to be loaded with 3 games lol

[@cabbusses]

People say this, but besides the AtGames cabinets Arcade1up would be competing with Chinese PBoxes that come pre-loaded with a triple digit amount of games that can be obtained dirt cheap. I don't think that's the direction A1up can go in because they simply can't compete with that. They were at their best when they were making cabinets that looked like 1:1 replicas. They should had been focusing on figuring out how to continue making those while maintaining the 300-dollar price tag, rather than weird gimmick cabinets, cheap plug-n-plays, or putting in "Live" features no one asked for and don't even work and raising the cabinet prices up to double what they were.

[@TacticalDingus]

@cabbusses true, or even make more quality products at more of a premium. There's a lot of people that would spend 600-700$ for a nicer built machine. Seems like arcades are like 300$ for junk or 2000$ for a custom built cab with nothing in between. The ALU is the closest thing but even that could use more power

[@jupreindeer]

I always thought they should have gone for that Neo-Geo approach. By having internal cartridge ROM's that the user could build their own library off of that sold side-by-side with their dedicated machines. Invest $400 for the cabinet and computer package. Give the thing four or so cartridge slots. Then pay $100 for a cartridge with pre-installed games. Let the machine bank swap. By now, it's probably too late for such an idea. Or just do a blank cab with wireless and a huge SSD drive. Buy ROM's from an A-1Up digital shop. Or people will just pirate, regardless of a legal option like that.

[@TacticalDingus]

@@jupreindeer that's actually an awesome idea, get the rights and sell individual cartridges or something, or game packs

[@emmettturner9452]

Surprised you didn’t know about the Ms. Pac-Man drama. Not even Namco can bundle it with Pac-Man. Also, the monitors ARE mounted vertically! You can’t source appropriate 4:3 monitors for these so they use 16:9 mounted vertically (9:16?) then shift and rotate the emulator output. For a game that was originally vertical they only need to shift it. Enlarging it to fill the screen would make it too large relative to the cabinet design so it gets matted in a virtual bezel instead.

[@Parlimant_Strifey]

licensing costs money, all this is licensed product. Namco and Capcom are very expensive licenses, because they rather make money themselves on other platforms. The more games, the larger the license agreement...the more expensive the cabinet. You can't do much once a license runs out.

[@exidy-yt]

Far from the only options were buying a roomfull of arcade machines or a 1up, people like my best friend were building their own authentic 6-button, spinner and trackball equipped MAME arcade standup machines for nearly 2 decades now. As for Arcade1up, it looks like they fell into the classic mistake of strangling the golden goose trying to get more faster and pissed off their previously very loyal customer base with blatant greed.

[@ryanmaes9551]

How did you achieve that awesome blurry background in your video while you’re talking. Looks really slick. Was that done with lenses or was that done in post?

[@RetroChristocream]

I have an elgato webcam and in its software it comes with stuff such as the background blur or greenscreen effects

[@redroversk]

I hope that John D has something cooking, the Time Crisis is the last time they gave a shit, the last year has been a steep decline they're even ruining their cash cow franchises by shrinking the depth of their cabinets

[@djfAmos123]

Whats wrong with 50 Games on one cab? I wish I had a cab with a vertical screen that had as many vertrical games we could get.

[@mlong9475]

9:50 I think the Live button is just like Netflix the name when back in the day they were sending those red envelopes. They knew one day that they were going to be "NETFLIX" when everyone's internet got up to speed. The same goes with the LIVE button. They put it there so it's there when you patch the system with a new firmware update that enables the button function. It's like future proofing their system. Sure it looks stupid now when it's of no use.

[@stupidfathobbit4262]

Out of curiosity is anyone running a small business using these or plan on playing competitively where quality buttons and joysticks are needed? I remember arcades back in the day and there were times both joysticks and buttons weren’t working correctly and we still pumped quarters into them for the experience. 1up is selling nostalgia that’s it, I own close to 30 of them and all of them still work just fine accept them for what they are and move on, if that’s not your gig feel free to buy a real arcade at 3k plus and good luck with the maintenance. I agree that 1up isn’t what they used to be but at the same time grateful for what they used to be.

[@andyspinball]

I bought the Ms Pac Partycade and removed the board and installed a 60-in-1 and replaced the controls with HAPP arcade quality parts. Best way to have under $500 in a 60-in-1 that can hang on the wall.

[@drewnaventure]

Great review. Goid job

[@Belgarathe]

I suspect the main issue is market saturation. There is only so many people who would want a cabinet in there home. So either they got full cabinet or a 1up. Once they got one the incentive to get another is much less vs upgrading their cabinet. The price point was a great deal for what you got but again it’s the amount of space these things took. It’s nice these were officially licensed products. But yea most demand drop once they have one at home and a lot of those that own one had buyers regret especially now you can get a handheld retro device under $50 that can plug into a tv and pair with a joystick like 8bitdo. This setup take less space, cost less, and you can play on the go.

[@redroversk]

I have the Pacman cabaret and upgraded to the XL, and the frame rate is worse on all the games, idk if it's the bigger monitor or what

[@xcom6466]

The XL's are the cream of the crop. It is too bad that they did not take off with that line . Some heavy hitters like Ms. Pacman, Centipede, Robotron, Spy Hunter, Qbert, and so on would have kept this company at the top.

[@JoseGonzalez-rh3we]

Someone explain to this basement dwelling momma's boy how licensing rights work.

[@Bored_Barbarian]

4:19 bro. Why? You could have used any other word. Why pivot to that one?

[@BlueIsLeet]

welcome to the internet, little cookie

[@richfrommitch]

They need to get on the phone with Nintendo and do a Donkey Kong. Then they'll be back.

[@RetroChristocream]

Sadly that will never happen which is why my wet dreams is they just release the DK shell and let us mod it ourselves which will also never happy. They just need to release something other than pacman, gold, and nba jam. Cough cough QBERT????!?!?!??!@? robotron!?!??!

[@rebelhook1]

I want the Centipede game . Do they still have it ? any info on it ?

[@PaulXMann]

100% right on needing more XLs (of just about every title). Unfortunately, we'll never have a Pac-Man/Ms. Pac-Man release on the same cab (that's a known licensing thing going back decades), and not A1U's fault. But to be sure, A1U has failed on just about every *other* level, particularly in the last year with the utter failure to release XLs in any quantity OR securing new titles. Giving their SvP of licensing the boot is proving to have been a big mistake.

[@gilgardner2817]

would have sold better at half the price, they only cost a fraction of the cost. too big of a profit margin killed them

[@joesaiditstrue]

arcade1up machines are just way too small for two adults to play comfortably

[@RetroChristocream]

I hear that alot, but I prefer the smaller sizes. I like the deluxe more than XL actually cause its smaller and can fit better in my area

[@triple_lei]

I'm still interested in the Ridge Racer one, but that's like the cost of a PS5 Pro or more. Is there someone selling full-size conversion kits for these? I've only seen Arcade1Ups in videos and they're all small and wobbly with the risers.

[@daishi5571]

As a young kid back in the 70's who stood on top of a wooden box to reach the controls, these did not feel like the arcade experience. Booming speakers, massive screens (it was a long time ago), sound of coins clunking through the slot landing in the coin box those were the experience that was a consistent. Like the size of the machine, these were "arcade lite" How much would it really have cost to produce an arcade equivalent Speakers, Screen, and a coin box that made all the right sounds and just eject the coin 10P / 25¢ so you can have that nostalgia. Controls are a touchy subject (pun oh yeah) as you can get far better now for not that much. All I need at that point is the smell of stale cigarette smoke and burn/melt marks around the controls and screen (and dubious slippery stains on the floor) yes it would have been more than $300, make it a premium and sell it with a bag of chip and a pack of cookies.

[@mchenrynick]

You can put an "OUT OF ORDER" sign on it now and then, too LOL!

[@X2011racer]

There's also the fact that emulation of more complex hardware really shows the limits that Arcade1Up and Code Mystics can reach. The best they could do is Midway's custom "Killer Instinct" hardware as the emulation of those two games seem to be less flawed than the Xbox One ports of them, not to mention the custom screens and videos to replace any mention of Nintendo and Midway. But NFL Blitz, Goldeneye and Marvel vs. Capcom 2? Entirely different story. Framerate oddities, glitches not found in original hardware, and occasional freezing for MvC2? They're out of their league at this point.

[@Striker_AgingGamers]

I was done when I bought the Best available Capcom and Midway Cabinets that, despite TMNT getting Online(after I already bought the one that didn't..) and NBA jam having online, didn't have online... They shortly after introduced those cabs with-out the annoying sunk in control deck, none paper looking light-up marquee, and more importantly the damn online.... The online should have been there and not heard foe a new release a few months later. If they had just offered retrofit kits for TMNT(this had sound issues and a score bug too), MK and SF, I could have let it go... but nope.... spend a 500 again and hope you can sell the last one for something approaching reasonably priced.

[@truckingwithatablet4489]

That dragons lair looks pretty close to the actual machine.

[@DennisAlexy]

Great video! I agree with everything you said. Hopefully, they can make a comeback. They need to make a Space Invaders 2 cabinet. Love the colors on that machine!

[@RetroChristocream]

I wish they would do a space invaders cause lets be honest the 2018 cab design sucks ass and it deserves an XL/deluxe

[@DennisAlexy]

@RetroChristocream I had that machine and gave it to a good friend of mine. I didn't even bother trying to sell it. I think a deluxe Space Invaders machine with Space Invaders 2 red and blue color scheme would be great. I would buy it.

[@eijentwun5509]

I have NOT watched this video and Don't need to...Their fall does NOT need to be studied. Its always a Guarantee that The get Rich Quick scheme and Greed lead to this. it screams I CARE MORE ABOUT MONEY THAN MY OWN COMPANY...which Ironcally it would get what it wanted if they did Quality products with MORE games in them and lower cost.

[@THEMARTIALARTSCHANNEL-bb4fx]

Just screw 1up over and put a 60 in 1 pcb or pandoras box in it. No need to buy more cabinets. You are just making the owner of 1up richer.

[@LargeHadronAnusCollider]

For the cost of arcade1up at least in Australia it was cheaper for me to go to a place that makes a full cabinet with mame integrated in a basic PC. Or finding someone to build a lightweight shell. those mini cabs are a ripoff.

[@Cueya]

Had to chuckle when you said classic arcades are extremely high maintenance and they break down once a week lol hope you're joking.

[@RetroChristocream]

well excuse me cueya my neighbors shits are breaking down constantly

[@Cueya]

@RetroChristocream 😂 I've got a 1980 vector astroids deluxe that I paid $200 for (helps to be old and start collecting early) it's never had a single issue, pinballs maybe break once every three months or so tops. Lol the time you spent assembling the one-ups is probably equal to the amount of time and effort you're going to spend working on a classic arcade, (unless you bought it broken maybe)

[@JohnnyDouchbag-nr5yf]

They didn't have enough versions of PAC-MAN!

[@nicksterwixter]

I bought the original 2018 Galaga cabinet, and then decided to upgrade once the “40th Anniversary” Galaga cabinet came out featuring a much better design, better hardware, and a slew of other (mostly PAC-Man-related) games. Then I was absolutely LIVID when just a short time later they announced the “Deluxe” versions, which featured a much more arcade accurate design and also included “Galaga 88” (WHY wouldn’t you include that in a “Galaga 40th Anniversary” machine over a bunch of PAC-Man games???) With how expensive these cabinets are, there’s no reason for this. Why would a company release an inferior version of a product when they know they’re working on a better version that’s coming out very shortly if not just to sucker people?? There’s no reason the same game needs to have an upgraded design released more than once every few years. It definitely makes you feel like you’re being scammed as a consumer.

[@kendalljenkins9938]

Most of your points are valid, but the Pacman-Ms Pacman situation isn't their fault. There's been legal disputes for years because the Ms Pacman rights are owned by GCC and Pacman by Namco, and there's still lawsuits going on from the anniversary game Namco made over a decade ago, so keeping the 2 IPs separate is really the best way to go.

[@Metal-Josh]

I’ll never understand the business model of rereleasing the same thing again and again. Street fighter was a hard sell for me when I was 12-13. So many Street Fighter 2s, I didn’t play any after about 10 years. But this is no better than AtGames Genesis consoles. Year after year. And when they actually get a new game license, they still would rather sell you what they’ve always had

[@liljazzy4021]

This was one epic nerd rant.

[@baddab55]

I never got one cause $300 is too much for me. Higher prices are out of the question.

[@MikeLikesChannel]

At some point the cost of transoceanic shipping, particle board, buttons/screens, etc... adds up. In this economy it's amazing you can get something like this for $400.

[@realmchat6665]

Re-releasing same titles was terrible, continuing to use monitors with bad viewing angles on some models (where were they even finding those in modern times?!?), adding dumb crap like fake coin doors and light up decks instead of focusing on better quality materials and controls, going nuts with their pricing, and lastly poor public representation/bad representatives, and oh yeah you reminded me, mixing horizontal and vertical games on the same cabs. The 2 player countercades with the mod and the awesome community image - now those are cool.

[@SoulforSale]

Try Pachislo. Great addition to the home space. Around the same price point.

[@supergrafxengine4620]

Ok , 3 minutes in and we understand that you know nothing about arcade. The arcade controller are supposed to endure some extremely violent use. This is why they are "clicking" . Specially the pro arcade controller like Sanwa brand will be clicking and noisy but because an Arcade sound is supposed to be very loud it compensate. I can't watch until the end sorry. Good luck to you and your channel.

[@1012taz]

I dont understand how they can be going down as a company. People are still buying them and modding the living crap out of them. Arcade1up gives you the best of both worlds,small size and extremely easy to modd. You cant beat it!!!! Whot he heck wants to to lug around 100 plus pound machine. It's a no-brainer!!!!💯💯💯👍

[@tripterstriker8143]

Arcades alone are kinda non seen any more

[@shea455]

Get a MAME. There are plenty of those out there, and much higher quality. I ordered one with 31k games on it, and no they don't break down once a week. 6' high, 4 player.

[@TheRealKonsolefanboy]

8:20 thank you for saying what I’ve been saying for 3 years. Great video