Introducing The RetroTINK 4K CE

[@lcarusLives]

Remember to uninstall your honey extension before clicking this affiliate code to support the channel!

[@Sun-ut9gr]

Can't uninstall what you've never installed lol

[@Leon14344_]

Nobody installed that obvious adware

[@Fools_Requiem]

​@@Sun-ut9gr This. Honey always seemed sketch.

[@jonniefast]

i dont install bloatware like a mindless npc 😂

[@infasis]

Lol the whole Honey debacle is the funniest thing where youtubers shilling bogus crap finally bit them in the a.

[@crt_rex]

Great coverage and attention to details. Missing way less features than I thought it would. Thanks, Bob. And a Happy New Year to you.

[@RetroRGB]

Thank you!

[@AaronEkman]

You don’t have to apologise for referencing past videos brother. It’s like a link in the body of a news aricle, or an asterix on a comic book page referencing relevant context from a previous issue. It’s appreciated, not annoying.

[@FlyBird]

It’s unfortunate because it’s something a number of KZbinrs still do to arbitrarily boost their view numbers. We know Bob would never do this, but I’m sure newer folks would attempt to call him out for it.

[@GoldenMean743]

@@FlyBirdWhy wouldn’t a KZbinr not want to increase their views? I could understand if it messes up the video if it doesn’t fit, but I wouldn’t crap on someone who is self-promoting generally and don’t see how it would be arbitrary.

[@popcornbobGCC]

Not having a 3D comb filter is a deal breaker if one wants to use it for LaserDisc and VHS. Thank you for covering that feature.

[@RetroRGB]

Well, yes for LaserDisc. All VHS is encoded with Y&C separated, so if you output S-Video, you won’t need a comb filter.

[@LonSeidman]

Great job Bob! Look forward to picking one of these up!

[@Charlie97L]

We need to get Bob to 100k. Doing the work for years!

[@SoFishtry]

Thanks for the thoughtful overview bob! The deinterlacing feature comparison was particularly helpful.

[@danlah1303]

Just when you think there is nothing left for Mike to do, he finds a way to keep innovating. Thanks Mike!

[@MrMegaManFan]

Very happy to see another option that’s easier to budget. The more price points, the better.

[@MarkCurtis-u6o]

We do not deserve Mike Chi.

[@dcooper314]

He’s the best

[@Kirkstevenson-ze7fl]

Always love it when you release a new video outside of your weekly line up. Thanks Bob

[@theonewhowrotethis5681]

It's great to hear that there's a cheaper model now! I'm still glad that I got the Pro though since the 480i features lost with the CE (as shown in that fighting game) would be a deal breaker for me at this point, however. But it's great that Mike's making more affordable options so more people can get into the 4K Scaling scene!

[@RetroRGB]

Agreed on all :)

[@andyv6476]

This feels like the biggest loss to me too, but I play 240p content prob 50x as much as I play 480i content, so the CE may still make sense for me.

[@rolux4853]

I just bought the 4K a few weeks ago and I really don’t need all those features. The CE would be more than enough for me. I don’t even need all the inputs, I just use my MiSTer FPGA with Direct Video over HDMI. If I knew that I wouldn’t have paid a thousand bucks for this device..

[@mitchellpayne3674]

It's FANTASTIC that you pointed out the things that the CE won't be able to offer that the Pro does. I must say though..... OK full disclosure, I'm sort of the "lay person" when it comes to this video signal/upscaling sorcery, so after hearing all of the things the CE won't do, I was left hoping to get a showcase of all of the things that it DOES do (including demonstrations) that makes these 4k products so awesome to begin with. It's like.... being a n00b and hearing all the things CE don't, I cannot fathom for the life of me what Pro AND CE actually do! I might be on the fringe on this point, so no worries if so. I'm going to go re-watch some 4k Pro vids and keep watching this here channel. Good vids, thank you! :)

[@RetroRGB]

Thanks very much! Yeah, start with the 4K Pro launch video and skim RetroRGB.com for everything that's been added since: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2TIoWmprJWWbrs - www.retrorgb.com/?s=retrotink+4k+firmware+-5x

[@GoldenMean743]

@@RetroRGB This is one reason why you need to self promote: public service. A lot of crappy gaming channels on KZbin. Some viewers wont post a comment and instead search and find one of the thousands of crappy channels. Don’t let it happen.

[@Fools_Requiem]

I got the 5x back in the summer. Fantastic purchase. Probably not going to need a 4K as I have no need for 4K resolutions.

[@96dacruz]

I need to buy a scaler and it’s so hard now. I want the cheapness of a 2x mini but I also want good scanlines of the 5x pro. But now the 4k ce is a little more reachable. I don’t know what to do. I plan on making a retro desk setup with a regular gaming monitor 32 inch. And I’m so undecided. I’m going to eventually sell my trinitron as it’s way too big but I can’t compromise on scan lines… I don’t know what scaler to get

[@trollrx]

I got the 5x too

[@philip6252]

Me, me, me.

[@SilveraLordz]

I'm going to be honest, I have no idea why I clicked on this video as I have no idea what this product does, but you have a great personality and way of talking. Hope you get more recognition

[@RetroRGB]

Thanks very much! If you’re curious what this is all about, see this video: Why Retro Consoles Need A Scaler kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipXJd6GIYs2CgZo …and if not, thanks anyway for the nice comment!

[@SilveraLordz]

@RetroRGB Great recommendation. I still have a ton of my retro consoles. If I ever go back to speedrunning SMW I'll have to look into getting a CRT or something like this

[@cygnusx1495]

Mike Chi is a man of the people

[@DarkusObscurius]

Happy new year, Bob, thanks for all your work! 🙌🍾🎉

[@gummislayer1969]

You are ALWAYS hella accurate & I learn something from you almost EVERYTIME I watch. Thanks! 🤓💙🕹

[@RetroRGB]

Thank you VERY MUCH. I really appreciate that and am so glad I can help!

[@franklinbrown7389]

So great to see this channel grow to the size it deserves. Great job BOB!

[@mrmaestrom]

This is awesome news. I was so keen for the OG RetroTINK 4K to get CRT simulation on my OLED TV, but with the amount of time I get to play games these days (not much!) I couldn’t justify the price tag. But for this price I might have to pull the trigger on the 4K CE.

[@Kevinwoolford123]

its amazing i use my pro daily and def worth it but i have alot of systems all modded etc so made it even more worth it. hope you get more game time. happy new year

[@yugo_]

Extremely informative, as always. I can’t wait for the release date!

[@mistaecco]

Welp, this just became an extremely easy to recommend product. Fantastic stuff!

[@seancunningham5448]

Bob, don't even acknowledge the trolls. Focus on the positivity in your life. You bring happiness to people with your content. Every Wednesday I look forward to listening to you via podcast as I drive into work. For me it's a little treat to start my work day. Thank you for all you do and Happy New Year.

[@kevindarbro4829]

I was thinking about picking up the RetroTINK 4K just to digitize home VHS movies and upscale them, but now I'm thinking that the 4K CE would do the job just as well! Thanks for your videos and in-depth walkthroughs! You are a rock star hero in this space!

[@RetroRGB]

Thanks for the compliment! And yeah, you can get an S-Video VCR and the CE for less than the price of just the Pro, so that might be perfect for you.

[@kevindarbro4829]

@@RetroRGB Of cours! And, I think I already have the exact same JVC VCR that you show in your videos, so I'd just need the CE! I've got the HDMI capture device you recommended in another video on order via eBay, so I'm looking forward to TINKering!

[@RetroRGB]

Awesome, you’re all set!

[@Uppgrayedd]

Thanks Bob, always appreciate your thoughts and commentary!!!

[@dcooper314]

Just bought the 4k I paid for the higher one. It’s worth the money and I’m also going to use it for up scaling old home videos so the price is worth the quality to me

[@JPdelaGhetto]

Got my Tink4K because I never expected it to get any cheaper. If anything I expected it to get more expensive due to part costs. I guess still no regrets. Would have been nice to save a lot of money for basically the same features. Definitely all the stuff I care the most about out. Releasing “lite” models of products is never a bad thing and shouldn’t be considered a negative. Now more people who couldn’t justify the cost can experience the awesomeness that is the Tink4k.

[@hideokojimajr]

The early adopter tax is real, but hey you got like a year of service out of it already which is worth something. Mike probably owes all us Regular Tink4K Owners a lil kiss on the lips or something.

[@TMracer73]

​@@hideokojimajrIf you regret sell it with 50$ discount and get CE. RetroTINKs keeps their price

[@WrestlingWithGaming]

Great breakdown. I'm very happy with my Tink4K pro but would totally snag a CE if i was looking for scaler.

[@winterhell2002]

Amazing. This also lowers the ceiling for what the competition can charge.

[@shoked99]

Great video as always. Looking forward to more videos about scalers. Thanks so much.

[@Prof_gLX]

Thanks for explaining the differences and the comparison shots, Bob!

[@20sBurning]

Can’t wait to see what Mike’s final outcome with the Blur Busters is! Fingers crossed

[@ps3inquisition441]

Mike is such a legend. I’ll be keeping the pro because I love the rotation feature, but it’s awesome that there’s a more affordable option out there.

[@DrLilo]

I think I speak for a lot of us when I say, I'm glad I got the full fat version before this existed, cus I greedily enjoy having the best of the best, but the missing features here are so few that I would otherwise have never been able to justify the price delta! Truly outstanding work Mike, you're an invaluable asset to our hobby ❤

[@OpticalHaze]

nice coverage. First I was excited but then tbh there are a few features that I would miss actually on the CE :( -Screen Rotation (Tate for Shooter PCBs) -inverse telecine 60hz to 24fps (laserdisc playback) -3D Combfilter (laserdisc playback)

[@RetroRGB]

Yeah, LD users would definitely benefit from the Pro. At least it's cheaper than those $7000 Lumagen processors people in the LD forums like to talk about! ;p

[@Cimone90]

Definitely buying just as a backup to my tink 4k

[@CollinKenny]

These are the videos I love; thanks Bob!

[@RetroRGB]

Thanks for watching!

[@Rumblefan]

Great video as always! I am thrilled to hear about the deep dive for all the different scalers coming soon. That is something I have wished existed as someone first getting into scalers and getting better picture quality. I started off with the retrotink 2x pro for its simplicity and entry price, but am wanting something a little more now, but trying to decide what’s most worth my money for my use case

[@kpcenti]

So what are the advanatges of the CE to the 5X? I would love to see a comparison video of those two

[@littlemodshop]

Awesome! Thats exactly what i was hoping for mike to do. :) What a legend.

[@smasherjosh5000]

Brilliant informative video Bob!

[@steverogers8163]

Nice. Seems like the true difference is the Pro still had plenty of headroom in the FPGA while the CE is (or close to) maxing out its smaller FPGA. It's too bad FPGAs haven't found a wider industry use that would help drive down their cost. They're still essentially specialty items with that specialty premium price.

[@schweatty]

As someone who bought it primarily for the hdmi input and for laserdisc use, I'm glad I have the pro.

[@gonzoret]

Great that there’s now a second lower option for the 4K. Been reading awesome reviews of the 4K pro with OLED for gaming and LD movies. Since I have CRT’s and Plasma’s for those I couldn’t justify the cost for one. I now added an OLED so the CE might be a good option for my retro consoles.

[@76_SPZL]

Great video demonstrating the two. Would be nice to see a video running down the 5x vs 4kce price points.

[@RetroRGB]

Thanks! And yeah, I'll cover all scalers and their prices in the upcoming video.

[@maxrichards5925]

I just got a new 4K tv and I was wondering if I could get a new scaler for it. It couldn't be better timing lol. Thanks for covering Retro tink scalers

[@ndpx673]

Thank you for another great year of high quality content! I try to limit my trash talk to myspace! That way I can be positive you read it 😝

[@RetroRGB]

Thanks very much. Lol

[@andrij.demianczuk]

Oh man, my 4K pro just arrived last week, before I knew the CE was a thing. I have to admit it does look incredible for scaling my original Xbox and I’m still just learning all of the features. I don’t regret spending the $750 though - the unit just never ceases to impress. Mike really outdid himself with the 4K pro. I still get a lot of mileage out of my 5x as it’s still a very capable system as well and handles most of my casual needs very well for my main TV space.

[@taiwanjon2583]

Very cool. I think rotate is a feature I would sorely miss though..

[@mattrichenburg1585]

Great video! My thinking is that future features may be enhanced (or only possible) on the PRO so I'll stick with it. Glad there is a cheaper option for people though. Nice job Mike Chi!

[@JS2123-m9x]

Great video - I was about to buy a RetroTINK device this month and, being completely new at this, was getting already confused.

[@NowOnAFM]

Excellent news and video. I have a Tink 5X so I’m torn between getting this cheaper Tink 4K or going for A Morph 4K to compliment my Tink 5X.

[@dj-murasame]

Nice, white would match my living room very well. I have the 4K only in my bedroom right now (because for the consoles there it is needed more). But I could use it in my living room as well.

[@beansoup1088]

Cheers bob happy ny buddy. Thanks for all your efforts

[@neorickio]

Seems great this new CE version. If I had not purchased the "Pro" already, I would definitely go for this one.

[@djexotic07]

i gotta check this out, i really need something for my ps2 and gamecube since i am about to replay all my jrpg games again.

[@rolux4853]

But if it lacks 480i support you cannot use the cheaper model. 480i is a feature that only the pro version has.

[@djexotic07]

@@rolux4853 well on the gamecube i can used swiss to force into 480p same with the ps2 from the freemcboot.

[@volt3867]

@@rolux4853 You can still use 480i on the CE, but it won't look as good as it does on the Pro.

[@eol6632]

Happy new Year Bob 🎉

[@sanjurohokusai]

I might just get the PRO for those just in case situations and because I want to use it for 720p images. My 5X Pro broke and having trouble resoldering the connections. Depending on which one I get it will be a saving grace. Cept the next time around I need to install adapters on my Monster cables to eliminate death grip.

[@thetruetekno9925]

That scalable video switch is one of the coolest things I have EVER seen in the retro gaming world. I don't even need or want it and yet I want it as soon as it comes back in stock.

[@swungsolid]

I look forward to your video on all scalers out there. Morph versus CE. What’s better?

[@Jonnicom]

Just glad it's a cheaper version and not a more expensive version. Very happy with my 4k ,and it's neat to see a cheaper one for those interested.

[@joshuakelly9390]

Not gonna lie, I'm more excited for the new cables from Chi. It will be great to have quality, available cables.

[@TheCoolDave]

Thanks for showing, Wanted the RetroTink 4k but, $750 way out of the range I could spend on a device like this. $500, is better but, as I am still sporting a Framemister, it's time for a upgrade and $500 is easier to bite off than $750 but, i did hear a feature or 2 that I would like to have, so maybe waiting longer...

[@OCDRex11]

Home made GBS-C guy over here eyeing this CE more that the 4K! I am in the "huh" mode of scaling still and everything that was lacking in the CE still has me saying "huh!" I am not informed of all of these accoutrements that the 4K really can do. I always saw it as too much for what I need. This changes my outlook now and I will look into this more. I'd like to even scale my MiSTer FPGA too now. Yes, I know it is a scaler already. There are improvements that can be made still...

[@brandogg]

Honestly a GBS-C (since you already have one) going to a Morph 4K is probably a really good, cost effective solution as well.

[@ngbf2900]

If you already have a GBS-C and want to scale the Mister you should consider a Morph 4k. Connect with HDMI. The Morph can handle the original low res and scale to 4K however you want to.

[@skycron]

Eh. Have an OSSC and I’m happy. And network tv is my day job. This is cool but…

[@b2collects]

I was lucky to get the pro used at 620$ from a friend. Tate mode was the biggest selling point for me. However the CE would be a huge upgrade compared to the 5X

[@atsz.]

Yep, CE now beats out a lot of its competition even on value for price

[@H6rdc0re]

Ermm... competition costs $275 mate. With the money you save you can buy a fully loaded Mister PI. Sounds like a pretty good deal to me.

[@atsz.]

@@H6rdc0re and it can upscale to 4k?

[@H6rdc0re]

​@@atsz.Yep Morph 4k mate.

[@Izquierda]

@@H6rdc0re But you need to fork out more for the bridge (which is still unreleased) if you need analog inputs.

[@atsz.]

@@Izquierda how much is that going to cost?

[@FinalFallProductions]

Great video keep kicking ass love the content

[@Azure_Brian]

I'm not exactly sure what you mean with the deinterlacing of 480i content. I planned on getting a tink4k for Playstation 2 content, but with this.. is it bad for 480i 30 FPS titles like with the Spyro footage? I don't quite understand that section. Is it good with 480i sources and still deinterlaces them well? Or should i get the 4k Pro instead?

[@rfmerrill]

The 4k CE is at least as good as the RT5X, and as someone who plays PS2, the RT5X is more than good enough. It's not perfect, but it avoids looking really ugly while also not causing flicker or image retention like bob deinterlacing does.

[@Azure_Brian]

​@@rfmerrill What about the lack of the telecine stuff? Still not entirely sure what that is. Does that affect anything?

[@RetroRGB]

@Azure_Brian - If you have the budget, the 4K Pro will do a better job than the CE. The whole point of the deinterlacing comparison was to demonstrate that the CE is still great, it's just not as good as the Pro. So if you'd like to save some money, the 5x or CE are both excellent choices.

[@brentvance9090]

LFG!!!! Yaaaaaas! I own a 5X and this is even more tempting now. I want to scale my PS3, 360, and GC with Carby so badly. I’m still rocking a CRT (Tau) for my component stuff

[@RetroRGB]

Love the Tau’s!!! Hopefully someone will make a 4K CRT filter so we can make OLED’s look like it.

[@suzyL420]

i scored a Tau for free before i knew how nice they were. i use it daily with my laptop now! i need to get a decent hdmi to component box.

[@HydefHyde]

Can vouch for 360 and PS3 games looking beautiful on the RT4K, especially if you use the nearest neighbor scaling mode for maximum sharpness. The difference it makes for clarity of motion is great.

[@brentvance9090]

@ that’s great to know! Seems like the perfect era to upscale

[@brentvance9090]

@@RetroRGB omg that would be awesome

[@GTArajgaming]

I think for the average user a rad2x for consoles will be just fine so long as you don't have "too many" otherwise it'll all add up and you'd probably be cheaper buying the 4k CE anyway. but for someone like myself or people with many consoles (or movie players) the 4kCE is the literal perfect device for passthrough/capture. I'll probably get one of these in the future.

[@NightSprinter]

With the roomie eventually wanting to get a good 4K TV for the living room, it may be time to start saving up for the 4K Pro, or at least for him the CE.

[@NetizenKing]

Thanks for the update, Bob

[@mVic8]

I’d love to see a psychological deep dive into the type of people that get mad about affiliate codes/links. What is it about sales commissions that they don’t like? Do they just jump to conclusions and think that anyone who links a product is automatically in cahoots with the vendor? Do they have a hard time maintaining personal relationships? What are there other beliefs about life, the universe, and everything? I find people with perspectives that are diametrically opposed to my own fascinating.

[@ians_parks]

Sounds like the version for me. The 4K Pro has always been outside my budget, though I understand it's more so the luxury option. $450 for a lite version is pretty ideal for me. Especially if it still supports auto switching with the upcoming scalable video switch. NGL seeing a color variant of the 4K pro in the thumbnail with the name "4K CE" had me thinking it was an even more expensive collector's edition. 😅

[@itchyisvegeta]

Wow this is awesome!!! I dont know if Ill pick one up since I dont even use my 5X any.lre since buying my 36 inch JVC D series CRT. But great to have this as an option regardless. Tempted to sell the 5X and get this in case i do want to use it in the future. Seriously though. Mike spoils us way too much. If he marked up the price of all his products by $50-100 each, so he could enjoy more luxury in his life, it wouldnt bother me at all cause he earned it!

[@waynetemplar2183]

I'm tempted but my current Retrotink 5X pro is still doing its job

[@TheRestartPoint]

This is brilliant, alas the CE discards rotation which is the only thing I want that the 5x can't do. But if I didnt already have a 5x i'd be getting this for sure. I guess it's not possible but if the CE ever gets rotation i'll be selling the 5x and getting it straight away.

[@rancid_]

Still going pro when the time comes!

[@OutOfThisDemension]

I just bought the retrotink 4k 4days ago, still waiting for it to arrive.

[@RetroRGB]

You’re gonna love it?

[@ahmedalzaabi2261]

Me too I can't wait to use on my 4k TV. I have all the scart rgb cables that I used for Framister before. I am excited to see what is improved from previous scalers. Anyway I hope you like it 👍

[@nomoredarts8918]

I wish there was Retrotink specific for PS2 with support for its every resolutions. Right now Retrotink 5x is the best solution, but it's super expensive for just one console.

[@triple_lei]

This is awesome. I'll feel a lot better getting one of these especially since I splurged for (and still love) the OSSC Pro, which still doesn't do 240p-480i transitions as well as the RT5X.

[@SDMasterYoda]

It should in scaler mode. Does it not?

[@Screwy]

Really the only semi-significant loss is edge adaptive deinterlace, but I've always been fine with standard motion-adaptive, speaking as a GBS-C owner. Definitely gonna buy the CE down the line, I feel it'll be endgame for me.

[@allyoucaneatchili]

Looking forward to the future roundup video, would be good to see how the OSSC Pro sizes up against the RetroTINK 4K CE at around $120 less

[@RetroRGB]

Me too! My guess is the OSSC Pro will be better for some scenarios and the CE others.

[@edoneill6701]

is the SCART port compatible with both EuroSCART and JP21 connector pinouts? (and if so is it software selectable or auto-sensing)

[@RetroRGB]

Just EuroSCART, but people make pin converters you can use.

[@edoneill6701]

@RetroRGB thank you!

[@JMLRetroRoom]

He should offer just the white shell for those wanting their pro in white to match etc. Something to think about. I’m all in with the RT5X Pro and component switches etc. I don’t even have a 4K TV or even capture beyond 1080p/60 so no need for me to upgrade yet.

[@BrettDarien]

As much as I like the RetroTink line of products, I can't support them anymore with the experience I've had with them. The video output on both my 5X and 2X completely died, making them both very expensive paperweights. No support given from Mike since they were out of warranty. I'm sticking with my OSSC Pro.

[@Svante]

Damn, that doesn't sound good at all. You would think that he would offer to repair it, for a price. Think I'm gonna stick with my OSSC as well. Way to expensive, when you don't get any support at all, after the warranty runs out.

[@littlemisskitten2760]

Damn….and I just bought the Pro. Ah well, this would be great for someone who’s looking for great performance at a lower cost.

[@rowleda1]

Yep me too! £750 pound for me! Was actually thinking about selling mine as might need to sell some of my collection to pay for few unexpected bills.

[@littlemisskitten2760]

@ I’m hoping not to have to do that this time around. I had to do that twice already like ten years apart.

[@rowleda1]

@ yeah I had to do it in the past too! It’s heart breaking! Fingers you don’t have to again!!

[@RetroRGB]

Three times total for me. Each time I had to sell off almost everything I owned. Then slowly got a lot of it back. Then something crappy happened and it all got sold again. Really sorry its happening to you :(

[@rowleda1]

@@RetroRGB thank you! Sorry to hear you had to sell in the past!Unfortunately I can’t sell my body as is not worth a penny 🤣

[@perpetualcollapse]

Crazy. Love my RT4K.

[@ItchyTastyPlays]

I have the 5x and I was thinking of saving for the 4K but the CE being a thing it will be cheaper for me to save for and I still have that sweet sweet VGA in and HDMI in.

[@MrMysterious420]

Looking at my XRGBmini and remembering the dark days before Mike Chi

[@RetroRGB]

LOL, hey that was a GREAT scaler for it's time!!

[@CyannePractice]

I would like to see a video on the OSSC Pro, as it is the scaler that I'm planning to get.

[@RetroRGB]

I’m looking forward to doing a deep-dive on that someday. I did a livestream with the creator (just search this channel for it) going over the basics, but it could be better.

[@CyannePractice]

Yeah I'd love an in-depth overview! If you can, please look into the "Reverse LPF" feature. It can make an unmodded 2-chip SNES look really clear, and it's a big draw for me.

[@RetroRGB]

Check out my SNES explained video - That shows examples of the reverse LPF

[@SeanUCF]

I have a 50" Panasonic plasma that I do all my Retro gaming on. I recently got a retrotink 5x pro to use with my Sega Saturn/Dreamcast and OG Xbox and PS2. I have to say that I've barely noticed a difference in image quality (I don't like scan lines normally) and I can't say I've noticed much of a difference in lag or response time. Are plasmas better than other flat panels with response time? Thanks for your coverage of this stuff. I absolutely love your channel!

[@RetroRGB]

Thanks for the kind words! Plasma's are incredible displays and pairing it with a TINK 5x is an excellent combo. The difference isn't as big as with an LCD panel, but you're definitely reducing the lag and getting better image processing...especially with the Saturn. You definitely do NOT need a CE or Pro with a Plasma though, so you made the right choice with the 5x.

[@jengelenm]

Again…Bob… THANK YOU !! & Happy New Year! My year can’t start any better, i bought a 1982 Barco series 3400 “Indiana” CRT last week. My childhood crt on which i played Atari2600 and NES games as a kid!

[@PLEYOR]

I just want the shell. Wish Mike would sell the full fat in white.

[@spennser]

has downscaling been improved at all with the 4k?

[@RetroRGB]

Yup!: www.retrorgb.com/rt4kdownscaling.html

[@spennser]

Thank you! Maybe this is the one for me then

[@OGaurabless]

how is the line doubling / 4x / etc. for the wii? will you post videos showing the ps2, 3, GC, Wii etc? mostly interested on how added lines would help these types of systems. Thanks :)

[@Sadgrind]

6:24 Does this mean the 4k CE has the issue the Retrotink 2x has where the changing resolutions during PS2 games (like exiting the title menu) causes momentary signal dropouts? Also, ignoring the price, is the 4k CE a better buy than a 5x? I’d be using it for PS2 and Gamecube games on a 4k tv.

[@RetroRGB]

The 5x, CE and Pro all ship with “triple buffer” mode as default, which means no resolution dropouts at all. As for which is better, you’d have to weight price and features to see what’s best for you.

[@Sadgrind]

Will there be a 4k CE vs 5x comparison video before the CE releases? I’m torn between the two. My main concern is the deinterlacing performance between the two. Is the CE straight up better in that area or does the 5x have something that the CE doesn’t?

[@DemLep]

With the 4K CE being closer in price to the 5x I'm curious on how they compare other than resolution.

[@kenmys]

I was all onboard but there are two concerns which I hope Mike is able to address that are keeping me from getting the CE version. When I am ready to purchase one of these whatever firmware is out at the time is what I will base my decision on. I am an arcade enthusiast. The non-rotation feature kills the CE for me as I am huge shmup fan! My FM Towns Marty runs S-Video out, and my PSP runs Component out still. The less feature rich CE for these two outputs isn't a deal breaker like the above concern but still something to take into consideration. The lack of the rest of the mentioned features are of no consequence to me. Props to Mike for releasing this budget friendly device!

[@AlexvrbX]

Scale 'er? Hell I barely know 'er! (I have a 5X Pro I'm gonna stick with for the foreseeable future) Edit: If I had a PS2 I'd probably want the better deinterlacing, but I'm a Sega guy and my Dreamcast's 480p output looks great.