Christopher Dunn Rejects our proposed Serapeum timeline

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Ancient Presence

Ancient Presence

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@itsnot_stupid_ifitworks
@itsnot_stupid_ifitworks 5 ай бұрын
I'm really liking your Channel. I don't think it helps educate people that the sarcophagi are always referred to as being made by dynastic Egyptians. This gives many people the impression that they are far older than they actually are. I've seen in comments sections people think they're as old as the great pyramid or they get mixed up with the term pre-dynastic. I think it would help the conversation if people understood that the majority of these were made after the Egyptian dynasties ,centuries into the Iron Age, with the last one being made during the Roman era. I think it would remove a lot of the mystery if people considered the other stone monuments, sculpture etc being built during the same time period
@Kitties-of-Doom
@Kitties-of-Doom 5 ай бұрын
Of course you like his channel. He used your material in his serapeum series. Since this is... SGD from a proxy... I like their channel too :)
@itsnot_stupid_ifitworks
@itsnot_stupid_ifitworks 5 ай бұрын
@Kitties-of-Doom I think you stumbled upon a great idea for a breakthrough video for your Channel. You can call it SGD revealed. A split screen with the Australian green screen disquise and accent And on the other side the Canadian green screen ,disguise and accent. Then you can show proof because they both use the words "the" and "and" in sentences
@Kitties-of-Doom
@Kitties-of-Doom 5 ай бұрын
@@itsnot_stupid_ifitworks I know all your speech patterns regarding this subject. Wasn't going to heat you out, but since youre getting corny, i had to do it. I nailed Mianos proxy accounts, he's got like 4 of them. He doesn't even deny it anymore. Just talks to me thru them openly knowng that I know. Matt from ancient architects is on the same page - Mr archie 13. Its quite hilarious that Im the only one whos rounded you guys up, thats how much time I spend interacting with you. Youre the best friends I never had. 😆😆
@AncientPresence
@AncientPresence 5 ай бұрын
Wow this getting weird. You took it to a whole new level, Kitties. I seriously doubt these channels are using proxy accounts to interact with you, you’re not a big enough deal.
@Kitties-of-Doom
@Kitties-of-Doom 5 ай бұрын
@@AncientPresence yeah it has nothing to do with me thats the kicker. It has to do with these channel creators needing to banter in the comment section without their channel name attached to it.
@Docrock-z9k
@Docrock-z9k 2 күн бұрын
Had Dunn done any in-depth research on the archaeological work conducted at the site.
@jellyrollthunder3625
@jellyrollthunder3625 5 ай бұрын
This channel is great
@Eyes_Open
@Eyes_Open 5 ай бұрын
I was impressed at the tone of the discussion. You guys definitely stated your opinion with reasons and still ended on a positive note between completely opposing viewpoints.
@AncientPresence
@AncientPresence 5 ай бұрын
That’s what I would consider “normal,” but unfortunately in today’s weird internet world that has become increasingly rare. Chris shared this podcast from Jerm Warfare and Triggernomety, I totally resonated with many of their points. I think you enjoy it too 😊 jermwarfare.com/conversations/comedy-and-woke-culture
@AncientPresence
@AncientPresence 5 ай бұрын
Chris mentioned “cleaning up the internet,” I think conversations like this can help contribute to that as a good example 🙏
@itsnot_stupid_ifitworks
@itsnot_stupid_ifitworks 5 ай бұрын
You have to hand it to Chris sticking to the same story for 30 years. If these boxes are sooooo incredibly precise in his eyes he must have a problem with thousands and thousands of stone Creations throughout history
@GroberWeisenstein
@GroberWeisenstein 5 ай бұрын
​@itsnot_stupid_ifitworks in his eyes, they are out of sight and definitely out of mind.
@spekenbonen72
@spekenbonen72 5 ай бұрын
I don't know the logic Mr Dunn uses. If you can demonstrate techniques (unexperienced even) that can make those results, how does he conclude it's not the way they did it... Stunning! (He wrote some books about "topic" and he's not going to discredit his work in fear of losing booksales...) FWIW to have k nowledge of technology, you need knowledge of physics and harnessing energy. You also have a run of precursor technologies. For instance, to make a laser, you need knowledge about light. You need knowledge about radiation. You need knowledge about transmitting radiation, even. Electronics etc. Where are the artefacts...! (not, that is not a question) Also, the ( or a ) level of technology is related to energy use and being able to harness it. It is far less likely that they had "high technology" then them using the methods you showed...
@chadb1675
@chadb1675 5 ай бұрын
Interesting how they are not open to including documented evidence into their data sets to alter their beliefs. They're not self-aware enough to see the blind spots in their research techniques. I think this is partly from egos wanting to have discovered something the experts missed, but sadly also because there have been enough archaeology scandals/a-holes that caused amateurs to become suspicious. Anyway, thanks for putting this together
@TheGreatest1974
@TheGreatest1974 5 ай бұрын
Good comment. People like Chris Dunn and Ben V Kerkwik do not consider ANY opposing views to their own. Dunn writes books based upon his own grift, and Ben just makes KZbin money and does conferences etc. they both have vested interests (monetary) and they have worked out that there are many people out there who are only too willing to follow their every word with gasps, and they simply will not risk losing a single person by having to have a real conversation they simply cannot win.
@JH-pt6ih
@JH-pt6ih 5 ай бұрын
Well, they don't *understand* what proper research and techniques are. They are working with what they know from doing book reports in high school or going to college and studying in a professional program to get out as fast as possible and go to work. Similarly, there is no understanding of what an argument is (cue the old Monty Python skit) and how to present and confirm or deny claims in a systematic process. As much as I could watch of Flint Dibble and Hancock on Gweneth Rogan's Outrage and Pseudoscience Podcast, when they discuss "Clovis first" Hancock's claim that nobody was allowed to even question it and Dibble said he wasn't taught that when he was in school 20 years ago, doesn't teach it, and that *isn't taught* (and I'll add - a minute in Google Scholar shows up articles in respected journals challenging the premise back at least to 1970. Hancock is flat out WRONG and has nothing to support his claim and how does he respond? By ignoring what Dibble said and throwing unsupported accusations of coverup and tyrannical control in the discipline. And Gweneth is to dumb and uneducated to realize this is not how educated, adult, argumentation happens so Hancock just babbles on about a cover up he has no evidence for.
@GroberWeisenstein
@GroberWeisenstein 5 ай бұрын
​@@TheGreatest1974Ben's censorship of opposing data and viewpoints is what makes him suspect and undermines any potential credibility.
@GroberWeisenstein
@GroberWeisenstein 5 ай бұрын
​@@JH-pt6ihit ain't easy being a martyr these days with Hancockamame ideas.
@Rustyspud13
@Rustyspud13 5 ай бұрын
@@TheGreatest1974 You should apply the same healthy skepticism you have for alternate history folk to some academic sources too. Sources which have proven countless times to be dogmatic in their ways and proven wrong given time. There is a healthy level of skepticism to be had here. Science essentially IS controlled skepticism, but i feel that the academics involved with ancient history have moved TOO far towards outright denial of anything that they consider "fringe". It's actually limiting progression on our theories on the ancient past in my opinion. Also calling these very well researched men grifters is a gross hyperboly.
@faragraf9380
@faragraf9380 5 ай бұрын
i saw the Serapeum. To me there were too different cultures own the boxes. The Apiscult inherited the finished boxes for its ceremonies.
@ThePsykool8
@ThePsykool8 Ай бұрын
What if the 24 granite boxes were not manufactured via cutting, but poured into a metal mold, direct from a volcanic lava flow of liquid granite?
@Docrock-z9k
@Docrock-z9k 25 күн бұрын
If Doctor Manhattan from the Watchmen was around then certainly plausible.
@Its_Shaun_the_Sheep
@Its_Shaun_the_Sheep 5 ай бұрын
Captain Kirk must be right if he believes it.
@Milutzi
@Milutzi 5 ай бұрын
🦝🐱🐯
@george8920
@george8920 5 ай бұрын
I love Chris Dunn - and have no doubt that he has Vast Knowledge and experience but the slow monotonous and bumbling speech pattern is very hard to listen to and stay focused - it's like wading through Thick molasses in January mid winter
@Kitties-of-Doom
@Kitties-of-Doom 5 ай бұрын
Incredible insight! Such advanced writing skills. You must have iq of 600
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