Christopher Vaughn Case Analysis | Dissociative Amnesia or Malingering?

This video answers the question: Can I analyze the case of Christopher Vaughn?
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References:
Staniloiu, A., & Markowitsch, H. J. (2014). Dissociative amnesia. The Lancet Psychiatry, 1(3), 226-241. doi:10.1016/s2215-0366(14)70279-2
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I hate it when I’m just minding my own business and Dr. Grande starts speculating about what could be happening in a situation like mine

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[@wigglymoose]

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[@conniestone6251]

@EES. Geez, You need to seek HELP immediately! No matter which details you associate with yourself… there’s help and non-traumatic answers available near you… please use this avenue instead, for all involved. IF you are trying to make a “joke”, it’s Not funny!

[@EE-hw6cm]

@@conniestone6251 Connie I don’t think you understood the joke. Take a deep breath, it’s going to be ok.

[@conniestone6251]

@@EE-hw6cm No, I certainly don’t see the “joke”. And you never know if someone out there is actually suffering and confused 😕.

[@AnikoVargaMakeup]

Why do people rather kill their whole family than just leave? This is absolutely insane

[@dextermorgan1]

Because people are insane.

[@JiveDadson]

Sometimes they take way too much migraine medicine, and it makes them crazy.

[@dextermorgan1]

@@JiveDadson That's completely not true. I can't tell if you're joking or not, but I don't think you are. "Migraine medicine" like triptans don't give you any kind of high, or physical effects.

[@gabrielamartiniuc6322]

By leaving, they relent control. The purpose is to gain control.

[@JiveDadson]

@@dextermorgan1 I said crazy. Probably not the best choice of word. Topamax reportedly can induce suicidal ideation. The autopsy report said the woman had very high levels of it. After I wrote that sentence, I did a Google. There are a lot of recent papers about the correlation of migraines _per se_ with suicide.

[@pudding7876]

Ah yes the "I don't want to go to prison amnesia" cousin to "I don't want to get grounded amnesia" 😂 Great breakdown once again!

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[@bekahlicious8496]

What’s up with guys named Chris murdering their entire families? 😬

[@prettyinink1661]

Now the profilers need to get behind this lol. 40's , probably a dad of 2 with one on the way. Possibly an engineer. High probability his name is Chris 🤔🤣🤣

[@prettyinink1661]

@@LukeMcGuireoides yeah! Peterson is another good one

[@bekahlicious8496]

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My very thought! Someone should study this-soon!

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[@TecOneself]

This story is very sad, can't people simply get divorce. Getting divorce is very hurting, people feel they die too, for both sides, but murder? Thank you Doctor Grande.

[@anothercleverusername992]

You don't even need to get divorced in this case... Just, y'know, go camping. What a weird motive..

[@lornarettig3215]

Because divorce is expensive, and children are expensive, and alimony is expensive, and they want a re-start without the responsibilities they freely gave themselves.

[@lornarettig3215]

@@fern7306 Don’t have children…?

[@bluemoonalone]

Exactly what I have wondered for many years!

[@rs5570]

If he breaks up with her he loses control of her. He is using her for credibility & staus. The guy has nothing going on. If he can’t control her or have her then nobody will. You’ve never heard of this?

[@sarahgupton2552]

Three innocent children pay with their lives. Why? What are such murderers thinking?

[@burprobrox9134]

It’s ok, they don’t remember it.

[@JiveDadson]

In her view [sic], she was sparing the kids of the torment of living without a mother who died horribly in their presence. The kids benefited from mercy-killing; he was cursed to live on, with his genitals blown off.

[@JiveDadson]

The wounds to the guy's wrist and thigh are consistent with a struggle. The under-chin brain shot isn't. I think the guy passed out from shock shortly after being shot. She probably didn't do much thinking after things got under way.

[@debrakaiser7700]

They are selfish and plain evil.

[@mariagabrielle6383]

They're thinking of, well..... murder.

[@kristaw2686]

Those poor babies had to have been terrified. :(

[@kataphorav6842]

Two were asleep, the third one likely was though.

[@Bfdidc]

I agree with most of the analysis, but don't see the desire for money and living off the grid as mutually exclusive. The former can help you do the latter very well.

[@Marshmallow_Trees]

Oh, definitely. You may be living isolated without many modern day conveniences, but you still have needs to be met. Money will make the difference between living on a prime piece of land with alternative sources of electricity, heat, clean water. Not to mention livestock, crops, hunting, etc. vs. squatting in a sad van with a little gas stove in the middle of the Nevada desert.

[@mariagabrielle6383]

Agreed

[@HeatherHolt]

For sure

[@Taluta394]

Plus he might go into town occasionally to watch girls dance & need a couple 1000.

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[@steph7738]

I live in a Chicago suburb. I heard about this story when it happened. Who gets up at 4am to go to a water park that probably doesn’t open until 10-11am???

[@silverbullett6684]

Maybe the Waterpark was a few hours away and they were planning on stopping off somewhere for breakfast?

[@Noname-dg3pm]

And there u have it

[@joego7924]

Chevy Chase going to Wally world!

[@steph7738]

Oswego, IL to Springfield, IL (where the water park is still located) is 2.5 hours away.

[@steph7738]

My apologies…the water park opens at 9am. Tuesdays are Kids Day $24.95

[@thereal4113]

A terrible tragedy. My heart breaks for the innocent children...

[@lynnfarley7851]

Really! When did our society become so cold and disconnected from the human race and kill children. Innocent children!

[@garydouglasstewart8731]

My heart breaks for his parents and for Chris. To be in prison this long and be innocent.

[@Ceerads]

And his innocent wife.

[@thereal4113]

@@Ceerads yes. The wife probably suffered from migraines due to the stress of the marriage. Now some " expert" is claiming it was the side effect from the drug. Absolutely ludicrous.

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Are they really though?

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[@butonasidenote]

PLEASE ADD AN UPDATE NOW RHAT HE SAYS HE REMEMBERS EVERYTHING. Admitted he never had amnesia. His own words. Episode 9 of murder in Illinois on apple pod

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[@GabrielShakkori]

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[@billie6814]

This whole time I've been remembering Walter White stripping down and walking off pretending to be in a fugue state 😅

[@MM-gd1dw]

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[@thejudgmentalcat]

"Did he not realize where those parts were located" 🤣🤣🤣

[@lindanicola]

Or that those parts perhaps would not be needed.

[@JiveDadson]

She missed, but didn't know it.

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[@nancyjones6780]

I'm voting for malingering, mainly because I love the word! Great topic, Dr. G 💜

[@christieburkett1607]

I was just thinking that myself. There's just something about that word.

[@leonieromanes7265]

I had dissociative amnesia after a climbing accident. My memory before and after the accident is fairly good. Its just the fall itself and the subsequent pain my mind blocked. My feeling is this guy is lying. He just got sick of having a family.

[@tortimeese]

Bran Stark, it is good that you do not remember what you saw and what made you fall.

[@HeatherHolt]

Sometimes stuff gets blocked out for our mental protection huh. Pretty neat but so weird!

[@Cinni11]

I was married for five years with this abusive man and I don’t remember the good times only the moments he made me go through pain.. I went to seek therapy and was diagnosed with ptsd

[@lynnfarley7851]

I always get it when my bank statement comes in and hubby starts asking why I spent 1200 on lancome.

[@kiyonahthundersong828]

Can you disciss Dissociative Fugue and how it might explain people disappearing without a trace? I see a lot of videos of people who didappear with no advance notice and no one has any idea what happened.

[@thomasgore2513]

Would a prison cell be considered "off the grid"?

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

I agree with your theory, it makes a lot of sense. It’s infuriating and disheartening to see how a family man who is supposed to protect his family, betrayed them the worst possible way. Very callous and selfish, in my opinion. Thank you for the informative review Dr. Grande.❤️

[@JiveDadson]

Think about it some more.

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He could certainly spend a million and a half in the wilderness. You buy some land with the cabin and a lake. Maybe you build a cabin. Maybe you buy a small plane so you could go in and out of the wilderness at will. I could think of more but I feel like I have made my point.

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[@billy4072]

I’m only speculating….but he looks a complete nut job. 🙄. And of course…the only one that survived…. 🤔🤔🤔. Jeeez. ..what more do you want 😖

[@stt5v2002]

If lying to strippers and wanting to live in the woods is evidence, he isn’t the only good suspect.

[@JiveDadson]

No kidding. Who might want to shoot him in the junk for doing that? Someone overloaded on a very dangerous psychotropic drug? Let me think ...

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Other people who want to live in woods and lie to strippers aren’t the husband and father tho?

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Dr Grande, are you familiar with the murder of Ann Maguire? A British teacher who was a stabbed to death in the middle of one her classes by then 15 year old student William Cornick. Your thoughts and analysis on this case would be interesting.

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Why would she send an email to her husband telling him of her personality change and anxiety?? He could have sent it to himself to provide evidence of her instability!!

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There is another possibility. Dr. Grande is a very smart individual, but he is being too logical here. Life can be crazy, almost like a movie. There is the real possibility his wife let him live, knowing he would go to prison for the crime. Not saying I'm right, just something to consider

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Great video as always, interesting case and A+ commentary and analysis. I'd be very interested in seeing a video of your experiences and opinions about treating patients who suffer from depression because they have physical pain / other limiting physical conditions and how mental health relates to making these problems worse. Can treatment possibly help people with their physical symptoms, either by enduring them better or even being less sensitive to the pain in the first place and how much (that's obviously individual, but what's the scope there)? And your opinions about treating patients with chronic pain with mood stabilizers to "raise the pain tolerance" and when one of them doesn't work (I was told it's about 50/50) just giving them another one to try out. These medications commonly have pretty insufferable side effects for the first couple of weeks when starting to use them and it's very limiting for the duration. Having to go through the process over and over again is frustrating. I was also told that there's no way to get addicted to pain medications other than opioids if they do not relieve the pain, I would also like to see a video related to this kind of topic. I feel like people don't know what kind of medication they are using most of the time and what exactly they need to do if they want to stop using them.

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[@solmma]

Another Christopher, the one from Winnie the Poo also likes to live in the Woods!

[@gaylesharp9652]

He probably had Soap Opera amnesia. I’m glad the shelving unit made it back home safely. 🌵

[@tinab3627]

Anyone that spends over $4000 in one night at a strip joint is guilty as far as I’m concerned.

[@Nan-Elle]

The larger cactus in the gray pot seems to be turning his back on the smaller ones. What's the matter?

[@maureeningleston1501]

This was a really interesting case, I'm going to have to watch it a couple of times to wrap my head around it.

[@maureeningleston1501]

I think your right, it seems to be a common problem for "Christophers".@@polarbearsrus6980

[@polarbearsrus6980]

@@maureeningleston1501 Lol, that's my son's name, scary.

[@JiveDadson]

Read the Wikipedia account and click through to _Investigating Innocence._

[@wlknonsonshine]

Listen to the Murder in Illinois podcast. It's very interesting & heartbreaking.

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Yes Dr Grade Memory loss is very convenient when being investigated by law enforcement if in fact the suspect actually suffered memory loss.

[@jodiefinney5072]

Dr Grande, do you still read all comments? If so I have a question because I dont know how to reach you otherwise. Its not a "case", but a request none the less. Is there such a thing, or illness, that makes somebody purposely sabotage a situation, in order to "get out of" doing something? I know someone who does this and Its very hurtful and Im looking for info on how to deal with it. I trust your opinion. Thank you.

[@Anita-k]

Do you mean laziness? Not sure, if that's a disorder though.

[@billhildebrand5053]

It could be passive aggressive.

[@billhildebrand5053]

This is number 4 in my list.. My notes on this.... guess 1952 was my year too, These notes help. Five factors related to Passive Aggressive Behavior 1. Rigidity - inflexible, maladaptive, stubborn, authoritative, dogmatic 2. Resentment - * anger, irritability, cynical, skeptical, low in trust, jealousy, paranoid, shame in expressing anger and a lot of anger turned inward. 3. Resistance - too weak to directly display dissatisfaction, come from low self- esteem, people reject useful advice and are inactive. They refuse to do any work. Oppositional attitude toward authority... 4. Reactance - procrastinating ( someone believes their behavior option is restricted ). This restores an individuals perceived freedom of choice. They hold onto control. 5. Reversed a Reinforcement.- normally when problems occur this leads to feelings of power and verification. May agree to something they not enjoy, do it, feel terrible. There is no way to reach negative emotions. this exists.

[@jodiefinney5072]

@@Anita-k no, not really. More like being upset knowing they need to do something or go somewhere that they clearly dont want to do or go, but feel as though they "have" to. Then turning the situation into such a nightmare that there seems no other choice but to exclude the person who didn't want to be there anyway. Its confusing but its made me re think who i thought i knew.

[@katharina1474]

@@jodiefinney5072 narcissism

[@elleblue07]

I will never understand why family annihilators get married in the first place.

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[@aethelwolfe3539]

There must be demons in it.

[@anonymousstrangeness7348]

@@aethelwolfe3539 Demonic pigs from The Amityville Horror murder house

[@member5488]

The near groin wound is the main thing that makes me wonder. It's very inline with what an angry wife could do. As to him not dying, the fact is that the average person way over estimates the lethality of hand guns, so it'd be real easy for her to think he was surely going to die after being shot twice and quickly moved to finish the children and herself. Statistically, most people shot survive, and it's almost a sure thing if the wound didn't kill you instantly.

[@JennyT101]

Why didn't he stop his wife from killing all the children then? He surely could have overpowered her.

[@member5488]

@@JennyT101 Firing that many shots only takes seconds and he was just shot and likely disoriented even more because a firearm discharging in a car would be crazy loud and would blow his hearing out. His ears would be ringing for days. It could've been all over before he even realized what was happening. Who ever initiated the attack would have all the advantages. Not saying I'm sure, but it's possible and worth consideration considering her mind set and the angles the bullets that struck the children were fired at.

[@kataphorav6842]

exactly my thoughts!

[@wlknonsonshine]

@@JennyT101 he wasn't in the vehicle.

[@bradsanders6954]

@@wlknonsonshine You think he hopped out and started shooting? Forensics would have figured that out quick...................it seems like residue on the shooters hands would have pin pointed the shooter, no ?

[@blueeyes6852]

I wonder Doctor, after seeing so many familial killings, do you think we're seeing an advent of more of these types of crimes? Totally understand if you don't comment back! Hope you and the family are well! 🌵 ps. Your statement of, I don't want to go to prison amnesia was golden! 😂

[@josehenriquefs888]

I would guess that, when he first tried to shoot her, she managed to get the gun and shoot him first, but only superficially because she had not experience, but then he got the gun back and killed her and then killed the children as well. I think this would explain a lot of the contradictory evidence.

[@HeatherHolt]

Wow that’s an interesting point 👍 I didn’t even think of that

[@deboratron]

That’s exactly what I was thinking! Like he’s still guilty, but his wife also tried to defend herself

[@kataphorav6842]

Evidence did not indicate there was any type of struggle between Chris and Kim. Kim did have experience with that gun. Kim used that gun to qualify for a CCW when they lived in WA, and went to the gun range a couple times with Chris (according to what I've read online).

[@don55s]

Hey Chris. Why didn't you just get on with your life with your wife and children? No, you were selfish and now all have had to pay for it.

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You don't force a smile ever. I appreciate that.

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Me too.

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Watch his podcasts! He even chuckles in some of them!

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I just don't particularily enjoy the forced and often irritating/exhausting over exuberance and smiling that's expected in a lot of daily life.

[@teeelle427]

Yes

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@@theresar4617 yes , I don't like that neither

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A pink doctor, the shelf behind his back is there again and a nicely clinical topic. I'm on cloud nine. 🙂💙

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[@anonymousstrangeness7348]

😀 😂 😂 😂 😝 😃

[@Kiya-me]

I think I'm addicted to you

[@theresar4617]

The voice is a bit addicting. Very soothing. Like the Bob Ross of therapists.

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@@theresar4617 exactly 🙂

[@ThatMans-anAnimal]

The evidence isn't particularly compelling but I can't say I mind him being locked away after gaining insight into his character. He did not have any feelings for his family.

[@karmaqueen3333]

This case walks such a fine line... If I was on that jury I would not have been able to convict... There were a couple to many reasonable doubts...

[@seang4222]

Do Mulder and Scully from the X Files sometime??

[@rayross997]

And the Smoking Man.

[@leonieromanes7265]

😄👍

[@HeatherHolt]

😍🥰

[@HeatherHolt]

I have “amnesia” from my car wreck so I can totally understand it happening in a major traumatic event. However I had a concussion and was seriously injured and almost died so it makes sense my memory of the wreck and the next few days of what happened I only have maybe 2 or 3 minutes worth of remembering. Though I was talking to my (ex) husband and my family in the hospital, the doctors and nurses, I wasn’t just knocked out for days I was awake. It’s such a weird feeling not knowing what all happened. I remember driving into the intersection and then I remember being in the life flight helicopter for a split second and then I remember it being the day after Halloween which would have been three days after the wreck. The brain is a crazy thing. I was very lucky I didn’t die from some moron running a red light. But in this guys case I just don’t see it happening like he said since he changed his story around and the stuff with the dancers …. Idk it’s not looking good for him.

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[@JosephineArmstrong-l1u]

I'm happy for you that you survived 😃 I have been injured in a crash too and blacked out on impact but I can't imagine going through what you did ❤ I had pain in my back/neck for 14 years before I went to church and people prayed Jesus would heal me. I was healed that day and regret keeping it a secret.

[@zenawarrior7442]

He sounds like a cold psychotic/narcissist, didn't care about his family at all, planned it out. Pretty shirt yes 👚. Thanks Dr G😊💟💟

[@JiveDadson]

She did it.

[@zenawarrior7442]

@@JiveDadson u just someone who likes to argue or u have proof

[@JiveDadson]

@@zenawarrior7442 Google for "Investigating Innocence ; Christopher Vaughn".

[@l.w.paradis2108]

@@zenawarrior7442 Listen carefully to Dr. Grande. The alternative theory is not implausible.

[@zenawarrior7442]

@@l.w.paradis2108 I did listen carefully. He gave 3 theories but believed he did it. So what's wrong w/me agreeing? Perhaps you should think before you criticize & make no point whatsoever. These trolls & arguers on YT need to get a life.

[@rightpa]

Maybe his wife just really didn't want to go to a water park.

[@JiveDadson]

... or living.

[@sarahgupton2552]

Pink is a good color. I was thinking that yesterday. Better than yellow. See you got the table back. I have to be honest.I don’t understand what’s going on with the cacti. Maybe they are just taking turns living on the edge.

[@sarahgupton2552]

@@brigitte9999 I thought the cream shirt with the window pane pattern was the best looking.

[@ToyMachine22122]

Idk why but I always expect the beginning to go, “Today’s question is, ‘can I analyze blah blah.’ And today’s answer is, ‘Yes. Yes I can.’”

[@lux7952]

Can you talk about Christine weston chandler aka Chris chan

[@jomarsh6449]

I would think it would be dang difficult to come to the realization of the fact that the mother of his children had just shot and killed in cold blood.. and he certainly would have some of his own problems, living with someone who was so labile that she’d even be able to think such things … tragic all the way around

[@DottieMinerva]

I wonder if he had a different story/plan and the driver who spotted him threw him off because he wasn’t expecting anyone to see him yet. What speaks to me the most is that he acts like his wife and kids don’t even exist now while he’s in prison.

[@shermare7478]

whos prints were on the gun guessing his for sure. were hers and in the right placement?

[@jennarmentor2833]

And didn’t they find gun powder residue on her hands?

[@lichen420]

I was riding my bicycle to school in 4th grade and my front wheel came off and I took a header. I don't remember the morning at all. It was like all of a sudden I was riding my bicycle and I didn't know how I got there. My friend Misty was next to me and I asked her if I had rode to her house to pick her up to ride to school like usual. She said I had and that I had just had an accident but to this day I don't remember waking up or having breakfast or anything. But that was bad head trauma not just a traumatic scary event. And no one was killed.

[@alex-qd6of]

That's caused by the head injury, which this guy didn't have.

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I know the topics are sometimes disturbing, but Dr. Grande's voice, choice of clothing, (I like the pink, but REALLY love the purple aka "graple" shirt too!), are extremely relaxing to me. Plus the plants. Can't forget about those. 😊 Let's do this, Dr. Grande. Let's hear what you think about this one!🤔🧐❤️

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the topics are indeed disturbing

[@bambiginger]

I totally agree with your hypothesis on Dr. Grande's demeanor, or what might be called a demeaner in a video like this. He has a nice cadence to his voice that take the edge off the horror. I love seeing what's next every day!

[@GarrettDavisHustle]

Gay

[@debbierose882]

His voice and knowing he is going to explain in-depth is why I love listening to him. He will tell a joke and break the seriousness.

[@cottontails9003]

That was a brilliant analysis. Thank you Dr Grande.

[@Azerty42069]

Hi Dr Grande, Will you resume videos regarding mental health / disorders rather than studying true crime cases / personalities ? Nico

[@rightpa]

no

[@alice_rabbit8345]

They really are about mental health

[@JiveDadson]

I agree. He really made a mess of this one. I am embarrassed for him.

[@alexvega7893]

True crime is entertaining.

[@paulabrown6840]

I love any video he does.

[@beeimaginative]

I may have missed this information in your analysis but did the police do gun powder residue tests on Christopher and his wife’s hands?

[@evelynwaugh4053]

Good question, but surely someone with his background would wear gloves and fire a round from his dead wife's hand. This type has even gone to the range the day before to make residue not unexpected.

[@beeimaginative]

@@evelynwaugh4053 The whole thing seemed planned out to me. The early morning “swim park trip” seemed wrong. This case reminded me of Josh Powell, the man in Utah who’s wife went missing. He supposedly took them camping in the middle of winter in the early morning. You are correct in thinking he had the details planned by weakening gloves or firing his gun the day before, etc.

[@evelynwaugh4053]

@@beeimaginative Dr. Grande is much more liberal than I am, and if even he thinks he is guilty, he probably is. I don't understand why this type doesn't just abandon their family instead off killing them. That would be bad enough, but at least the family would have a shot at life and some happiness then.

[@aileenburke4667]

I was just thinking that exact same thing.

[@beeimaginative]

@@evelynwaugh4053 That is such a good point. It would take a huge amount of effort to kill your whole family when walking away would be simple. I don’t understand it.

[@XanderShiller]

"There was almost, reasonable doubt." Classic Grande! 😎😅❤

[@GFlCh]

Yeah, so would that be "un-reasonable doubt" ? =)

[@XanderShiller]

@@GFlCh i doubt it.

[@sixthsenseamelia4695]

Book stand looks like a moustache.

[@maureeningleston1501]

Lol....I had to go and look and it does.

[@IdeologieUK]

If he did kill her surely his hands were tested for residue?

[@wlknonsonshine]

Nope. Listen to the Murder in Illinois podcast.

[@IdeologieUK]

@@wlknonsonshine Thanks! 👍

[@l.w.paradis2108]

Two things about the wife's mental health and the drugs found in her system: first, if she was experiencing panic disorder, this could have been due to some intuitive sense of not being safe with her husband. That doesn't mean he killed her, because there were certainly other things he did wrong that she may have known or sensed, but her disorder by itself certainly does not make it more likely she committed the crime, either, and her panic could have been exacerbated by feeling unsafe with him. Second, the medications in her system: never underestimate the fact that major corporate interests are aligned against recognizing that some widely-prescribed drugs are very dangerous to a tiny group of people. So, there were interests involved in suppressing that possibility. That would make it harder for the defense to get a qualified expert to testify for their side. This is a tough case. Apparently, a lot of people who analyzed his entire statement to police agree it would be hard to fake believing his family was alive without slipping, and hard to fake interest in seeing the video of what happened. But that doesn't point to guilt or innocence, necessarily. It just means he really did have a traumatic memory lapse, making it impossible to assist in his defense.

[@draconicfeline6177]

A killer can definitely be traumatized. This is a hard one.

[@wlknonsonshine]

Listen to the Murder in Illinois podcast. It's very interesting, heartbreaking & eye opening after several reenactments.

[@dancingcolorsVdeRegil]

yeah, the drugs she was on I also have taken, though, luckily not at the same time. Terrible for me who doesn't suffer Bi polar or other psychotic issues. But migraines, these two drugs are used though not designed for migraine. Self harm was coming my way with both, but I got off them in time. I relate to how Kimberley got to that place of self harm, but wow, killing your children too... did she really try to kill him as well? Terrifying situation.

[@Shamangrl]

Ok any normal father strippers or not, would stop his wife from shooting his children. How was she suppose to successfully kill all three kids and then herself without him struggling with her to stop her. And he planned a 'surprise trip? Yeah, premeditated murder. And why??? He could have just gotten a divorce or just left and disappeared. Chris is definitely the killer! He said he doesn't remember???? HELLLLOOOO! Yeah the only people I feel sorry for are those poor innocent children. A real and normal father would absolutely have struggled with his wife if she went off the rails shooting everyone in the family. He is in jail where he belongs.

[@rayross997]

Please cover outlaws Jesse & Frank James? Have a great week Dr. Grande.

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[@thereal4113]

Kimberly was taking the drug Topamax for migraine headaches. Now Christopher's parents are claiming Kimberly was suicidal because of the side effect of the drug. Also, Christopher spent time with an exotic dancer and told her he was single and had no children. Gives me chills thinking how Scott Peterson told a woman the same story.

[@djoecav]

You should analyze the case of Tay-K, there's a lot that seems fishy about that whole situation

[@floraposteschild4184]

Sounds like Christopher drew a gun, Kimberly wrestled with him for it and a shot or two went off. Christopher then shot her and then the children. Re.: the insurance money. It's possible to camp in Canada with a million dollars in the bank. Or, have a million dollars in the bank, and then decide not to go camping after all.

[@leonieromanes7265]

I think so too. He just got sick of having a family.

[@kataphorav6842]

From what I read, there was no physical evidence of a struggle between Chris and Kim.

[@icturner23]

I haven't watched the video and have never heard of him before, but my guess is malingering.

[@susanburke5275]

Have you listened to the murder in Illinois podcast, I can’t actually believe a podcast could be so subjectively on one side that being Christopher’s side the first three episodes are bashing Kimberly and her family relentlessly, Christopher’s family are enablers to the highest order it’s disgusting

[@brendaronnebaum47]

We have a FB group to talk about the podcast if you want to join us. It’s just called Murder in Illinois Discussion Group.

[@marymendicino7568]

Thank you. As I was listening to this podcast, (although the person reporting kept saying that it was one sided) I couldn’t believe the things that were being said about this woman that is dead! Really sad story all the way around.

[@garydouglasstewart8731]

She wanted to speak with her family but they refused. I don't blame her i blame the doctor and the medicine.

[@susanburke5275]

@@garydouglasstewart8731 no sir blame the guy who packed the gun and then pumped those bullets into his poor family. The poor woman is a victim.

[@lindaolsen7089]

His parents will never believe he did it, even if he tells them, "Look, I did it." Their denial is protective denial of their own egos, and they need to keep their view of their son as good and Kimberly as bad. I listened to the whole thing, and the episode where EVERYONE lost me was Chris's letter to his parents telling them he lied to police about having amnesia and he lied when he told police that Kimberly couldn't have done it. He knows what happened and that he just thought the police would figure it out. THAT MAKES NO SENSE, but it plays well to his parents' about what an honorable husband Chris was RIGHT UP UNTIL THE END to protect his wife's memory. Even though she killed his kids, tried to kill him, and then turned the gun on herself. Yeah, right. The forensics told by the removed investigator were not the forensics told to the jury. That is one investigator's theory and the same investigator had screwed up another high profile investigation allowing Drew Peterson to walk free for a long time, until they revisited the case and another forensic look was taken at his ex-wife's bathtub drowning. Listen to that portion of the podcast. Finally, Christopher Vaughn himself does not want to fight he case through the system. So now his parents, who can't let it go, are suing the state on their own behalf. Christopher wants his parents to go to their graves believing in his innocence so he will never admit that he's where he belongs. So he's bowing out of the fight and the parents still think he's protecting his evil, mentally ill wife. Puh-lease. Tragedy for all involved, really.

[@NYCWendy1]

Can you analyze jon koppenhaver ?

[@user-mc5pl8js9h]

Binging on Dr. Grande for 3 days now, all day&loving life ✌🏻 Awsome content, greatly appreciated!

[@mshockey73]

Oh my gosh...Christopher Vaughn. This incident happened very close to where I lived. It was pretty shocking. I had heard that in the interrogation room they brought in a picture of his family. He immediately crumpled it up and threw it into the corner. Also one of his daughters was an avid reader. They found a Harry Potter book on her lap. They think the 2 girls were asleep when they died but the little boy who was the last to be shot was awakened. He had put his hands up as a defensive move:((

[@ChereeDawn]

For me personally all things are equal except for the fact that Christopher probably could of stopped one of the murders if his wife was the shooter.

[@wlknonsonshine]

He was outside of the vehicle.

[@4bibimimi]

800K , yo. That's a lot of cacti.

[@paulab2242]

LOL you should add a an update - the latest episode of the podcast everyone is telling you "proves" he didn't do and really had amnesia features a letter he wrote to his parents saying he actually always remembered everything! You called it.

[@Orville9999]

we NEED a video on CHRIS CHAN. ASAP.

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[@kayleawilson]

Dr. Grande: *describes happy family* Dr. Grande: “Now moving to the timeline of the crime.” OH

[@RyanAnthonyDigitalMedia]

Moral of the story: never trust a Christopher

[@andie5031]

BIG ask, but could you cover Chrischan?

[@CwasTB1]

Myself= Lost only seconds- few minutes of memory of my accident that I cant remember, but it was of the exact impact of it.... to be fair, I got a TBI (scrambled sections of brains) that still every much effects my daily life 2.5 decades later. So I don't think it is the same type of thing, but this video is very interesting. I thing regardless of the fact he leaned over to shoot his wife at an angle, that supports she could have shot herself, lied about killing his family, and then pretends not to not remember= I would take as Malingering ( But IM NOT DIAGNOSING ANYONE HERE : -) ). Thinking of which- getting any black or colors of merch with the cactus Not Diagnosing ?

[@Ra3_ar1adnE]

Alright a request, case analysis on Christian Chandler. Let's go.

[@mrjellyfish2]

i simultaneously really want to see this and really don't

[@Ulrich_dArth]

I agree, for there's more than enough intricate documentation to work with

[@scottishgirl6666]

Loving these videos from Scotland! Hooked.

[@NyseHaywood]

It wasn't "one of the state police investigators", he was the lead investigator until he did not agree with the tunnel vision of the investigation, and they fired him. Also, chris continually begged for the video footage as it would prove he did not kill his family. They also disposed of the bag that the firearm was originally stored in. It was covered in blood and in the crime scene photos. However, it could not be located... additionally, the trip was not concretely planned out, however they had discussed it previously and they were known to take random trips like this. As for his dissociative amnesia, it is VERY common when the brain is protecting you from something so horrible, it cant be handled. How would using complete memory loss be beneficial to him? Obviously he would have had plenty of time to plan this out to the letter had he planned it in advance... it just doesnt fit for something planned out

[@georgehart8879]

Trying to sort through possible sequences of what happened in car, I came up with a sequence, that is horrifying, but is a possibility. Kimberley shot 2 shots at Christopher, unbuckled seat belt, turned toward the backseat, killed all 3 children, then committed suicide. It is horrifying to me to even imagine that this scenario happened. What if this is what Christopher witnessed?

[@JiveDadson]

You nailed it.

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[@michaelp205]

Yes, after she was done shooting him, she shot in sequence from near left (the girl behind the driver's side), then the girl in the middle seat, then the boy in the seat behind her passenger's side front seat, who had apparently awoken by this time and had his hands up in a defensive position. That sequence makes the most sense if she is doing the shooting, but not likely if Chris was. Also, the bullet trajectory of one of the bullets that hit the girl in the middle seat was from the passenger side front seat, where the wife was sitting.

[@georgehart8879]

@@michaelp205 I didn't want anybody to think that it occurred this way. I was hoping that I was way off base. It is so horrific.

[@gypsygirlkelly]

It's incredibly diabolical to think that a wife would kill her family when it was his idea to get up at 4:00 a.m. to go on a trip to a water park, that to me shows absolute intent he planned this for a very long time just like he's been planning on living in the wilderness Pulls off on a random backroad... Pre meditated

[@The_Death_Owl]

Can't wait for your Chris Chan video Dr!

[@acecal9858]

Im pretty sure he'll be mentally exhausted and hurt from it

[@HeatherHolt]

Why all this interest in Chris Chan? I thought he was old news.

[@acecal9858]

@@HeatherHolt check what he did this week

[@The_Death_Owl]

@@HeatherHolt unfortunately she made the news again for sexually abusing her dementia addled mother and was served a protective order 2 days ago. She then proceeded to withdraw herself $750 from a shared account which is a violation of that order tons of weens called the police to the hotel room with a Christine was using the stone money to pay for and started stalking them at a mall and caught the arrest on camera yesterday.

[@darlenelawson1255]

I really enjoy your humour and your shirts. You plants are equally cute😁. This guy did it, plain and simple. He probably has some kind of mental illness but not enough to go to some hospital. That wraps it up, so Thank-you for an interesting video. He did it and knows he did it. Chris was a popular name in the 70's. My son is named Chris and there are a lot close to his age with that name. Hmmm.❤️🇨🇦❤️. Also America was at war.

[@The_Ecclesiarch]

Hi! Could you do a Chris Chan update? In light of, well.... I'm sorry if you're finding out through me

[@golovastik.mp3]

that would really been the "when worlds collide" moment for me

[@iamweapon]

When's Dr. Grande going to report on the mental state of Chris Chan?

[@danik4244]

I wonder if it would be at all possible to look at the case of Christine Weston Chandler (Chris-Chan). I know she is in the minds of many people right now, but I think it would be really interesting to see a mental health professional look at the situation. Plus I really like your videos

[@caroldepp2545]

*HE

[@NewWorldBuddha]

Resembles Chris Watts. That narcissistic look, "Im smarter than everybody else." Something about the Chris name?