After School Homicide | Colleen Ritzer / Philip Chism Case Analysis

[@asalane20]

As a female teacher this is absolutely terrifying. With the hoodies, gloves, and weapons, this was clearly premeditated.

[@yarnpower]

Listen to your instincts if you ever get bad vibes about someone. Your subconscious picks up body language, micro expressions, etc. that give a truly bad person intent on violence away. Women especially, are taught to be nice so they can unfortunately dismiss those subconscious warnings. There is a good book, ‘The Gift of Fear’ that everyone should read., which explains all of this.

[@StainsStainsStains]

@@yarnpower "listen to your instincts" If she did that she wouldnt be a in a miserable, trashy line of work.

[@rockyevans1584]

@@StainsStainsStains teachers are trashy? Feel bad for ya

[@rockyevans1584]

@@yarnpower are women especially taught to be nice? Id disagree with that, totally depends on the parents. Everyone is taught to be nice

[@markly5460]

@@rockyevans1584 teachers aren't trashy, their line of work is, they are severely underpaid in many countries

[@maboleen_bolf]

The defense wanted to convince the jury that Phillip is so traumatized over moving from Tennessee and his parent's divorce caused him to kidnap, rape, and murder. Absurd.

[@UltimatePiccolo]

They have to say something.

[@zacharylapaugh6618]

We needed more information on the mom and his relationship with the women in his life. I’m sure it wasn’t healthy.

[@RYMAN1321]

@@emilyjones5830 Maybe, but someone like him is a danger to society.

[@RYMAN1321]

LOL Millions of kids move across states, have parents that get divorced and don’t commit murder. I know people who have gone through far, far harder childhoods that have grown up to become successful people.

[@cookieprof]

@@emilyjones5830 IQ is the abbreviation for Intelligence Quotient, the term used for scoring intelligence tests.

[@ProsperOn]

Thank you for covering this story. I was in Chism's math class and Ms. Ritzer was my teacher. Means so much to me that more people learn about this story.

[@GealicGirl]

May her gentle Soul Rest in Peace 🙏 🌹 My sister is a teacher and cannot believe such a tragedy and callous act can happen. Thankfully I live in a country where students are consistently monitored.

[@Lindsey0007]

My sister is also a teacher and I can’t imagine something like this happening to her! 😥

[@hf4229]

@@GealicGirl this can happen literally anywhere. No matter how much surveillance done to watch people.

[@Sophie_kent]

Did he seem angry in class ?

[@katherinebutz1538]

How scary

[@Ilovechickpeas24]

Philip should NEVER be let out of prison. The fact he’ll get out around age 54 is a terrifying thought.

[@shahidabdoullakhanzorovr1564]

A lot of people quick to throw away the keys on this guy, but have no problem with uh-boar-shun. Lol.

[@johnnylego807]

WHAT! I thought he was sentenced to life? All the more reason to carry a gun, my gosh that’s terrifying

[@Sapphiregriffin]

@@shahidabdoullakhanzorovr1564 that comparison makes no sense.. its like saying you like tables but dislike rainy weather

[@AndrewVanLare]

He has the ability to get out at 54. That depends they'll let him out. Especially with the way he acts.

[@LAoMARAo]

@Boxing Boxing Nearly as severe? The only difference is that you are comparing a tree to a human life and that you believe with no scientific proof that a human fetus is less than a thing? A biological entity?What does that even mean? There is no scientific proof of when we aquire consciousness. Why are you so sure that a fetus is not a human life? All Humans where once a human fetus including you, no human ever in the history of human kind has skipped being a human fetus. Why do you want to invalidate a human fetus and reduce it to something less than a thing? Why do you feel the need to go there, in revenge of a random comment on you tube? The case talked in here is beyond horrific. The murderer for some reason thought of that teacher as less than a leaf, than a thing, than garbage. He killed her and ended her precious one of a kind life. This story is unbelievably sad and scary just as the mentality we now have in the world of human life valued as less than a leaf.

[@ajcbng8289]

This may be, hands down, the scariest thing I've ever heard. It absolutely fails to compute.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

Yes, one of the very hardest to accept.

[@ajcbng8289]

@@l.w.paradis2108 absolutely. As a person, as a parent, a sister, brother, mother, father--how do you contend?

[@XAVargasX0206]

Oh it definitely computed

[@lizmerrick6883]

I think that's because he had no other motive than he just felt like it. Luckily, these kinds of killings are very rare though they get more attention.

[@Zepster77]

That’s insanity for ya

[@DottieMinerva]

Such a scary case. This young woman was loved by students and making differences in their lives. No one would ever have thought something like that would happen inside a school. She went to work like any other day and had the horrible misfortune of running into a violent deviant.

[@SanamJanamian]

The most horrifying story Dr. Grande has covered

[@SamS-uv2ql]

I guess you aren't American? Loads of killings happen in US schools :(

[@velvetbees]

There are photos of her mother crying in court. It is heart breaking to see that poor lady in such grief. They have to keep him in prison for life.

[@peteywheatstraws4909]

​@@SamS-uv2ql A brutal rape and murder of a teacher is not commonplace in US schools.

[@SamS-uv2ql]

@@peteywheatstraws4909 But murder really is. So sad

[@scrolemodel]

The ultimate definition of "bad things happening to good people". Very sad!

[@chillie2552]

I’m a high school math teacher who has an”open door” policy meaning that students may see me for help after school without an appointment. I’m always alone with male students. It has never occurred to me that this could happen. My heart hurts for this teacher. She just didn’t deserve this. Thanks for covering this case as I never heard about it before.

[@kseniav586]

I'm a school teacher, so for me it's the most terrifying case you've ever narrated. Perfect for the start of the academic year...She evidently put so much effort and care in her work, so the ideasthat a literal child could do this to her is just --

[@davidlee723]

Not a literal child, he was tried as an adult for a reason.

[@doinglifemyway1755]

@@davidlee723 He was literally a 14 year old child. That can not be disputed. It is literal

[@davidlee723]

@@doinglifemyway1755 okay, i guess what i was tryna say was that this perp definitely had the mental maturity beyond that of a child.

[@gazepskotzs4]

@@davidlee723 I do not get it when kids are trialled as an adult, these rules are made because kids brains aren't fully devellopped. Making exceptions on this rule is based on revenge , not on common sense.

[@mattschemmer3091]

@@davidlee723 There's no indication either that he had the mental maturity of an adult. In fact, based off of his behavior, he was probably mentally immature for his age. Being tried as an adult is almost entirely driven by the severity of the crime in an effort to maximize punishment. If he were tried as a kid, the sentence would be much less severe. I'm not saying whether this is right or wrong. I don't...know what is the exact appropriate punishment for something this abhorrent, especially when they attempted the same thing again in prison.

[@gravydog1]

As a Father of a daughter, an Educator and Healthcare provider, this case is truly soul-crushing. The fact that Colleen was an absolute angel walking among us who ran into an actual demon is terrifying.

[@StainsStainsStains]

Oh god, im choking on the amount of clurge here. You make me sick.

[@wandaphelps3152]

@@StainsStainsStains and why does that make you sick some beautiful teacher got brutally raped and murdered now that is sick ;I don’t know what you’re thinking but maybe should go back and read again what he did,

[@StainsStainsStains]

@@wandaphelps3152 the exaggeration. She was a teacher, not an absolute angel. Teachers aren’t worth respecting,

[@wandaphelps3152]

@@StainsStainsStains I didn’t send you a damn text saying salad you got it you’re a sick one look at your picture you’re sick and you supposed to be a teacher teacher

[@wandaphelps3152]

@@StainsStainsStains You talk like you knew her you don’t have a freaking clue that’s right you don’t have a freaking clue that’s right you

[@TomiAdewoleAdetom]

Hard to believe that nearly a decade has passed since this story aired - it feels like it happened merely a couple of years ago. It is especially startling how paramount the role of dark fantasy must have been in the mind of someone so young, that the sexual impulse would've crossed with the violence impulse at 14 is chilling. The sexual -staging- posing of Colleen's body shows an utterly remorseless individual who absolutely _hates_ women, and wants to degrade them even post-mortem. He'd likely been thinking about stuff like this for years. If he's let out in 40 years, he will definitely be strong enough (and so-inclined, if you ask me) to kill again.

[@karenkonrad4771]

I agree!! Imo, Philip is a sociopath with sexual deviance, impulsive, explosive and most definitely a profound hatred of women... I also think he would pose a danger if and when he is released... no matter how much time has gone by...

[@loranekenyon8174]

I bet he works out every day in prison. He should NEVER get out.

[@gmack3883]

Maybe but he was still a child and even psychotic children cannot dream of killing people if they are not exposed to such things in some way. I'm placing the blame squarely on neglectful parents. Kids do what they see. Don't let them watch violence and sex. Don't have cable. Childproof their internet access. Take them to libraries and book stores for fun. You'll end it up with harmless comic-book-collecting cinophile geeks whose past times include writing survival guides for the upcoming zombie apocalypse. But, at least they know not to hurt anybody.

[@Nok112]

💯💯💯💯 especially the part about hating women, and the danger of letting him out. So so sad.

[@Nok112]

@@cht2162 it was said that he wasn't abused or neglected. He had schizophrenia.

[@Autumn_Forest_]

From everything I’ve heard about her, Colleen was an awesome teacher, excited about math and her job, and went out of her way to help every student. May she rest in peace.

[@seanmcpat]

What an absolute monster. Puzzling to say the least where this extreme aggression came from. Should never be let out into society this kid is a clear and present danger. Thanks for the coverage and analysis doc.

[@2Ryled]

He bullied his mom and I think his sister. He was 6ft tall.

[@yetispaghetti4716]

Ikr wtf is wrong with people

[@hersheykiss9500]

its just blm bro. are u a bigot?

[@yetispaghetti4716]

@@hersheykiss9500 what does that have to do with anything BLM do matter but still

[@hersheykiss9500]

@@yetispaghetti4716 blm are violent

[@skunkrat01]

Philip will now be having a "dress like your friend" life

[@DottieMinerva]

Ha!

[@lavernec7812]

😅

[@blitzphantom9488]

Lol

[@Autumn_Forest_]

LMAO 😂😂😂

[@20TonChop]

Perfect comment award! 🎉🎇🎆

[@DennisNeijmeijer]

Some people really are just a burden to society. People this dangerous can't walk among the population....

[@Truth1561]

They can and they do. Institutions were quite rightly disbanded, but unfortunately no comprehensive replacement was substituted. In the UK ‘care in the community’ pretty much means ‘no care into the community’ and schizophrenics aren’t even required to take their medication regularly whilst in the community.

[@thereal4113]

I find that there are a lot more toxic people in society now.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

@@thereal4113 I get that feeling, too.

[@Sarablueunicorn]

@@Truth1561 Do you think this guy was schizophrenic? Or was having a psychotic break? People with psychosis rarely have delusions that make them harm others but are more likely to harm themselves or be harmed by other people. The murderer and rapist next to you is likely to be functional in society and not diagnosed with any mental illness, and if if they have mental illness wasn't it that caused that person to commit a crime. Food for thought.

[@StainsStainsStains]

They could just be processed into livestock feed and serve a purpose but nope, we have to live in a backwards society that stands around humping doorknobs and slurping down fast food.

[@wiredshini]

“I see a butterfly and a mental health clinician who does not understand test validity.” Dr. Grande didn’t just throw some shade, he threw a whole damn tree. 😂

[@lonelysith66]

More like the forest. LOL XD

[@wiredshini]

@@lonelysith66 an entire orchard, fruit and all 😂

[@cumshot07055]

Excuse me, I don’t get it. Is the ink blots a valid test?

[@paulmartin2166]

@@cumshot07055 no, and he has discussed that in other videos. It has been proven to be useless........

[@Lombreee]

😆😂🤣

[@TangledNana]

He is just evil. The pains he took to cover up his crimes shows he KNEW what he did was wrong. That shows intent. Super human huh? Riiiiiiight, nice story this kid came up with to try to get away with murder. I, as others have lived through traumatic events and surprisingly have not committed murder. This person should NEVER be released from prison.

[@karl.weaver]

Well said, this guy is dangerous, always will be.

[@kendram6579]

It’s so disturbing to think about how long he was fantasizing about this . He’s truly sick and if he ever gets out he WILL offend again

[@kendram6579]

Plus he was clearly nervous when his friend was asking him what he was doing . He definitely knew what he was doing was wrong and was trying to cover it up

[@kosta5706]

Racist

[@mookiess]

Kosta ??? Can't tell if you're trolling but if not, then this shouldn't be a racial issue at all; dude committed a heinous crime, and he should be punished for it. This shouldn't be made a race thing because he's black--regardless of who someone is, they should still be made accountable. And there was nothing in OP's comment that was racist, heck they didn't even mention his race in any way??? I get the idea that blacks tend to be treated more severely in crimes, but this crime wasn't some little petty crime, nor was there any racist undertones that implied this concept, so idk what you're on about. Either you're bad at comprehension or just want to stir up trouble, but regardless, i'd suggest you touch grass to ease your mind.

[@starlight_44]

This Philip is just a plain psychopath, he murdered a good caring teacher, for his own sexual/disgusting gratification.Let him stay locked up for life, RIP Colleen.🙏

[@treborironwolfe]

Psychologists don't like you to use the actual term "psychotic" when referring to adolescents -- it has something to do with brain growth and development. It's only when a person's brain is fully matured that the psychotic _tendencies_ become true psychopathy.

[@eadweard.]

@@treborironwolfe psychosis and psychopathy are two completely different things

[@kyliejones8827]

Trebor Ironwolfe Did you mean to say "psychopathic" instead of "psychotic?" 🤔

[@anniegaffney8378]

@@treborironwolfe True... so, he is just a murderous asshole with no remorse.

[@dearbh1736]

@@eadweard. Correct!

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

It’s heartbreaking to think that a 14-year old can commit such a heinous crime. The scary part is that he displayed no unusual behaviors prior to the homicide. As for Colleen, my heart goes out to her. 🥺 What a tragedy, she woke up and went to work that day only to meet with a fatal encounter. Thank you for the review Dr. Grande.❤️

[@cottontails9003]

Rejane Tbank you for your insightful comment on this video.

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

@@cottontails9003 Aww, you are so kind.☺️

[@Bubba__Sawyer]

Guaranteed his parents, teachers from his previous school and other students had seen and heard some pretty disturbing things from Phillip that they chose to ignore. A 14 year old committing a crime like this had to have given a few pretty strong warning signs previously.

[@emilys.7627]

@@DarkSkies72 my brother was 6’0” at 14… 14 year olds are not little kids, and he also had a box cutter. Let’s not put blame on a woman for not “fighting off” her own rape and murder and instead redirect that blame to the actual person responsible

[@nilesredfern7989]

@@DarkSkies72 are you fuckin' serious? I'm 26 and 100lbs. How am I supposed to fight off people, regardless of age, who are bigger than me?? Let's say I am caught off guard and have no weapon...

[@jamestnov41945]

A beautiful young woman destroyed by a monster. I hope he will never be free.

[@rachelv9408]

Dr. Grande, please consider covering the case of Tania Head, the false survivor of 9/11. Your input on this case would be very interesting and helpful. Thank you.

[@joycejnn]

I have requested this twice

[@donniB8]

yes yes that would be a good one

[@nancyfahey7518]

I had a similar, crazy childhood. I would make up a story and run with it. The last one lasted about a year. Then one day I just fessed up. Boy, were my friends pissed. But I was forgiven. I should have written stories for a living.

[@nickyblue4866]

He just did

[@rachelv9408]

@@nickyblue4866 yes I saw about an hour ago!

[@Vespiion]

Dr. Grande, as someone who is completing his MSW and will be pursuing clinical licensure, and who has been disheartened by interactions with clinicians who do not appear to utilize evidence-based measures during treatment or assessment, I just want to voice that your perspectives are both refreshingly grounded and inspiring.

[@AudreyAudio]

I just want to voice that this comment is wholesome and I love it! That is so awesome. I'm jealous. GET IT!! :D I just love Dr. Grande. don't be disheartened by the dumb dumb poos. lol

[@joebondo2422]

I heard about this case a few years ago. As a father to a similarly aged daughter, my heart absolutely grieves for her parents.

[@david8_0]

He definitely was aware of what he was doing, he noticed the camera's in the hall way and pulled up his hood. Great work as always doc 👏 🇬🇧

[@MasterMalrubius]

The final discussion on mental health evaluation was the most interesting. I'd like you see a video of your opinions on scientific tools such as brain scans and how much they can explain brain activity. Such as differing areas of the brain being used by different people with mental health issues. To determine if these scientific tools can actually help provide a comparative baseline for how mental issues effect thinking.

[@louisbarrow4671]

It's raining men.

[@testboga5991]

As a neuroscientist i can tell you that scans currently cannot match a clinicians assessment. For psychopaths it has been demonstrated that they indeed have significant deviations but this would be obvious from their behavior anyway.

[@KatJ3st]

Great suggestion!!!

[@LioraLand1]

Dr Daniel Amen has been using SPECT scans for help in informing how to treat certain conditions. If memory serves, he found six brain patterns in ADHD.

[@TinselKoala]

Brain scans and other instrumental tools to assess abnormal behaviour are like standing outside a sports arena and trying to determine what is happening on the playing field by listening to the roar of the crowds. You might get a general idea but the resolution is very coarse indeed.

[@darkyoumemento5307]

I never thought it'd be possible to wish violence and death toward a 14 year old child.

[@brendano7948]

He's in his 20s now, wish away

[@michaelm6948]

He was no child. A perfect case for the death penalty.

[@mollyb4026]

Thank you for covering this! This happened in the town next to me and I can’t pass the school without thinking about Colleen. At the time this happened, I worked with a lot of Danvers High students who had her as a teacher and so many of them got tattoos in her honor. Just shows how much she meant to people. Rip

[@lanceanthony198]

8:10 wow this is absolutely horrible no matter what the correct interpretation of events was, but even worse if she only died at that point. This student is an absolute monster

[@rhiannongreen2642]

Makes you wonder if she could have been saved if found earlier

[@lousozo87]

What's really horrible is the possibility that such an individual could be released. Our justice system is irrational!

[@JaneDoe-ym7de]

@@lousozo87 If or when he gets released, there is no doubt in my mind that he will attack someone again.

[@sadezem991]

I 100% agree. It's completely savage regardless but I can't imagine her being alive while being shoved into a recycling bin and rolled into the woods. That is just horrifying. Those last minutes must have been hell. Just hell.

[@goldenlass9488]

Pure evil!

[@laurabloom8745]

The Rorschach test response was absolutely perfect. "I see a butterfly and a clinician who doesn't understand test validity"

[@jguenther3049]

"Doc? This is your Thursday 4 pm. We're having a party and we want you to come over and bring your dirty pictures."

[@carinapearson9040]

I find it very refreshing that you said point blank that mental health clinicians don't have sophisticated tools for assessment. As a therapist it's something I find frustrating, but there isn't anything else we have at this point. The entire field is more subjective that we want to admit, and I think we'd be better off just facing that vs. trying to make something sound more objective than it truly is.

[@TheFakeyCakeMaker]

I love the fact that Dr Grande advocates for personal responsibility he doesn't just use symptoms as a reason or excuse.

[@pezette7717]

Your walk through of these incidents is so much more clear than anything I've read or seen about this case before. Thank you for your fantastic presentation in these cases!

[@missbraindamage]

Check out Dire Trip as well! I like his vid along with this one.

[@lanceanthony198]

Dr Grande your consistency and productivity are outstanding 👏

[@BennosCamaro]

It really is remarkable

[@brandonmuse5532]

Yes Bravo!!!

[@sinsinnomore5555]

I notice how he only hearts compliments and fawning. That tells me he's in need of massive social media approval. Or else he'd love criticism more:) He will censor this comment if he's insecure

[@omayrasdemesne]

@@sinsinnomore5555 i think he's just thankful for his followers. Plus I rarely see any criticism.

[@moonstruck562]

@@sinsinnomore5555 I think out of everyone I see or follow on you tube dr Grande is the LEAST person to seek social media approval. There is really not much to criticize on this channel. However, on his podcast channel viewers post criticism more often, especially on the beginning videos and he/they heart them all. Which looks like they read them and take them to account. I sometimes even see replies on the criticism and they actually have made alot of improvements.

[@ninorcairam]

This happened where I grew up. The trial was in my hometown of Salem, MA. It was a total media zoo. I also knew someone who knew the boy well, said he was just real quiet and nobody ever expected him to do something like this

[@kayzbluegenes]

It's always the quiet ones.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

@@kayzbluegenes Ted Bundy was an attention seeker. John Gacy, too.

[@kayzbluegenes]

@@l.w.paradis2108 OK, well thank you for straightening me out on my tongue-in-cheek totally NOT serious comment! 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@l.w.paradis2108]

@@kayzbluegenes Oh. Okay. There was no /s. And this culture is not exactly diversity friendly. Hence the stringent requirement to pose as such.

[@conanhighwoods4304]

Hum....this plus his 'trigger word' really brings to mind MK Ultra.

[@Khaotic450]

This story always breaks my heart. Such a tragedy. RIP Colleen Ritzer. Another top notch video, Dr. Grande!

[@kellyfelly6645]

I think you hit the nail on the head. He is not mentaly ill he just wanted to kill that poor young teacher. My heart goes out to her family and friends. Its a sin to let this creep out in 25 years. I have my opinion of what he deserves. Thank you Dr Grande. Your analysis is spot on.

[@sofiajones1376]

Wonder what relationship he had with his mother?

[@Sofyasemyonovnamarmeladov]

‘I see a butterfly and a mental health clinician who doesn’t understand the concept of test validity.’ 😂😂😂💕 priceless.

[@eadweard.]

Extremely important explanation of the difficulties involved with assessment and the blurry lines between psychosis, premeditation and criminal responsibility.

[@grandmabenti8516]

I whole-heartedly agree!

[@DMaria216]

Ik there’s other stories that are more gruesome..but this one always gets me. It’s so senseless…then he attacked ANOTHER woman in prison. We need to do studies on ppl like this. Get to the bottom of what the core issue is. Is it in his genes? He can NEVER be rehabilitated, never can he be let out.

[@blitzphantom9488]

Not many cases are more gruesome, trust me.

[@Onus6688]

Careful with the "gene's" stuff.. you might walk into some race realism.

[@avatx5361]

he went after the other woman in the exact same way too, by following her into the bathroom and attacking. so scary!

[@georgedudleysashtray3860]

@@Onus6688 based

[@Alcoholpad]

@@avatx5361 sounds like a predator :/

[@valoraeverly5025]

Super interested in hearing your professional analysis, such a tragic thing.. thanks doc!!

[@valoraeverly5025]

After watching your analysis: I was not disappointed, makes sooo much sense. My heart aches for those who suffer with mental issues (I do myself), but I couldn't make any connection as to the (loosely said) "justification" for what he did.. sadly, people often abuse true mental illness characteristics and use it as an excuse for horrible decisions.. case in point.. thanks again for your clear educational insight 🤗

[@kentbetts]

@@valoraeverly5025 I think he took bad decision making to a new level.

[@pauline6199]

I'm an interior architect and I am working 90% of my time on the computer drawing plans, presentations, etc, etc, I love how many new video's you'e been posting recently, every day some new things to listen to while I'm drawing plans, You're practically my collegue, with me every day also doing your job :D

[@alejandrocurado5134]

I've seen his face at age 25 or so. He is sheer evil. Period. He should never get out of prison

[@grandmabenti8516]

I loved how you saved your final thoughts to express your usual deadpan sarcasm. Once again i am so impressed with your professionalism in all that goes into each and every one of your videos! Thank you Dr. Grande, for giving your viewers & listeners credit for their intelligence.

[@esteemedmortal5917]

Definitely scary. How do you mitigate a risk you’re not even aware of? Or have any logical reason to even suspect?

[@philosopherwithin]

Whoa. Full stop. I gotta fully understand “he developed hatred for Colleen to justify his other feelings”. BRILLIANT. This insight tells me so much. Thank you. 15:16

[@evandegenfelder4554]

"I see butterflies and a mental health clinician who does not understand test validity." LOFL! Priceless.

[@KTiffer]

I’m addicted to your videos, love the little quips 👍🏼

[@sinsinnomore5555]

So the doc supports addiction ? Huh, interesting analysis of a social media doctor wouldn't you say?

[@KTiffer]

@@sinsinnomore5555 just seeing this now, well I’m sure he understands it was hyperbole

[@tinaandtheworld]

this is so sad. two lives ruined. your comment on the Rorschach test is HIlarious thanks for leaving us with something a little more light-hearted for the ending!

[@rockyevans1584]

I assume her whole family is forever changed. What 2 lives are you referring to?

[@tinaandtheworld]

@@rockyevans1584 hers obviously. . then he threw his away when he acted on his thoughts. obviously premeditated . It's always sad for me to see someone just throw their life away. but I know it was his choice. I do not feel bad for him, just the life that could have been for both of them.

[@moonstruck562]

@@tinaandtheworld I'm glad he got caught right away. Imagine how many more lives he would have ruined/taken doing this at just 14 years of age.

[@tinaandtheworld]

@@moonstruck562 Yes because it doesn't seem likely he would have stopped as premeditated and "broad daylight" of killing would have only made him more secure to get by with this; surely he would have continued.

[@tinaandtheworld]

Yes, exactly. I don't feel bad for him. He chose to do what he did. She was the victim. just saying he wasted his life as well.

[@Jane-xt4lu]

Odd that no one mentions his recent onset of puberty ie sexual feelings, and that Colleen was a very attractive young woman who was out of reach for him sexually (he told police she was a girl, but she wasn't, she was his teacher). Violent hatred of a women by a man who can't get sex from her, and his determination to annhilate her, or a women/girl like her, seems to me to be very common but not usually discussed by psychologists.

[@louisbarrow4671]

What if I started playing the piano and dancing?

[@Onus6688]

I think you need to be careful here.. we cant just vilify all men/boys because one of them did this. Yes hormones exist.. but not every person starts murdering people, society conditions young men to bottle up and hide thier emotions, we need to look at it systemically that way, instead of attacking an entire gender.

[@Ringofire280]

What is even your point haha

[@carolnahigian9518]

yikes!

[@gg-st9bd]

@@Ringofire280 if you can't understand the point, you need to do some deep reflecting. Your comment perfectly shows the disconnect many feel when males murder and sexually assault females.

[@clayformations1638]

Sometimes, it's just evil. Pure evil. There is no other explanation.

[@LeanneFowler-ms5xc]

Yes, that is absolutely true. Some people are simply plain EVIL!!!

[@betterbee1304]

What a sad case, that poor woman. Thanks for the analysis, Dr. Grande! ❤️

[@bkane645]

Your set looks great Dr. Grande. Thanks for the always interesting content!

[@lnc-to4ku]

What a terrible tragedy! It always haunts me when I see in nearly every photo of a victim, they have this big, bright smile on their face that seems to be filled woth so much promise and hope. Yet another amazing video, Dr. Grande! Also, you look very handsome in that fresh looking shirt!

[@PrayerPartnerExtraordinaire]

You're very dedicated to your job. Thanks for always being consistent. That's a virtuous trait. Thank you for being sober and lucid. You're important to us, Dr. Grande.

[@lisastewart5885]

I’m a true crime junkie, but this is one of the few cases that made me cry. I just don’t understand it! WHY?!!? My heart breaks for her parents & siblings.

[@rockyevans1584]

Psychopath with violent sexual fantasies. I don't think balanced people can understand it, it's beyond disturbing

[@adjohnson9897]

Being from the area at that time, I remember local media reporting on the violent past of the kid, (which was thought to be why they came to Danvers from TN). The kid was messed up but most people in Danvers didn’t know). 😢💔😢

[@icturner23]

I know it’s not much comfort but I’m glad that Colleen heard those nice words from kind Amber before she was killed.

[@kanyeeastlolz]

Speechless on this one. Just speechless.

[@angusjamesscott5084]

Been waiting for this one for a long time thanks Doc ❤️

[@gailflora1835]

So horrid. Poor Colleen. Not to mention the hell her family had to endure after her death. (I used to be a grief facilitator in child loss groups.). So heartbreaking to all who knew her.

[@melmack2003]

I'm a retired teacher....I was targeted and stalked on my street. Luckily I was carrying a spray bottle of a caustic kitchen solution in my open-top tote bag. I knew I had to make a defensive move so I sprayed the bottle at the ground ;;;;and it made a very loud noise. The villain boilted across the street ...jumped over a hedge and ran out of sight. Vulnerable people should carry a spray.....he probably thought it was mace or pepper spray.....it saved me from being a victim.

[@misstinahamilton5714]

I recall this case - absolutely horrific . I always appreciate Dr Grandes analysis on any case I already know of .

[@scottburbridge3170]

it's so tragic that no one could save her life. 💔

[@Dunitagin93]

Dr. G., that’s the most eerie chronicle of a case you’ve given so far. So much human tragedy in the world today. A very sad situation, indeed…how was that NOT deemed problematic as to the suspected mental illness? Okay-I’ll let you finish…okay, I hear you. It’s just hard to believe that a fourteen year-old could do something like that.

[@autumnedwards4448]

This case was tragic. I didn't know that another student actually walked in while the crime was occurring. I always get details I hadn't heard before from your analysis Dr Grande! Thank you!💙💙

[@julieanderson100]

I just moved to Danvers, to teach in a nearby public school system. I just learned about this case as the 10-year anniversary came up. So shocking. So sad that a beautiful soul like Colleen was taken from this world. I am so sorry for her family and loved ones. She was clearly a loved and loving person.

[@robotaholic]

Yes!! I have been waiting for you to cover this case for months! Thank you!!! This is an absolutely HORRIFIC murder and I almost went into shock just hearing about it and watching the cctv footage. Lock him up and throw away the key is my opinion. I don't believe at all the 'reason' he got so upset that the fact that she mentioned "Tennessee" and it made him angry for some reason. BS! He was just in the heat of passion to kill her.

[@miguelg4556]

Was reading up on the case when I checked youtube for more info, and lo and behold - my mans has already covered it

[@joedokes7710]

What I appreciate is you're willing to say that this rape and murder happened because the perpetrator wanted to do it. You don't take the sometimes all too frequent approach of almost defining such apparently inexplicable crimes as inherent evidence of mental illness. You don't really express an opinion about whether he should ever get out of jail. Other than to express pessimism due to the nature of his crime and the fact that he also attacked a female guard while in custody. 40 years is a long time but he won't be that old at 54 and, as you indicate, he will have a hard time in prison. It's hard to imagine he'd emerge from prison and make great positive contributions to society. I just we can hope he doesn't make more great negative "contributions."

[@lavernec7812]

Your channel is addicting! I look forward to it everyday. Great analysis!

[@PlsWaLuigiDomMe]

I think he was sexually attracted to her and the other woman he attacked but hated them for “making him feel that way” I think there is a lot of intense misogyny involved in his crimes

[@eadweard.]

Is this based on any evidence or just your own imagination?

[@PlsWaLuigiDomMe]

@@eadweard. just speculation based on the evidence

[@sadezem991]

Especially because of the staging of her body. He was degrading her even in death. This is typical incel behavior, a man who hates women because he blames them for his lack of sexual activity imo

[@keepinitkawaii]

Probably an incel

[@Alcoholpad]

Someone mentioned that there may have been long term sexual abuse he experienced as a child and maybe he didn’t feel protected by his mother so he had a resentment towards women

[@meandyouthroughandthrough]

Thank you for your articulation of the shortcomings of psychiatric metrics. Such a pressing discussion in our chaotic times. Also, thanks again for the podcast addition to your repertoire. Very pleasing crew. Cheers Grande.

[@DaisyLee1963]

What a terrible betrayal of Colleen's care and trust. And I bet Autumn must have felt very strange knowing she was perhaps the last student to talk to Colleen before she was viciously attacked. I taught for 12 years. I loved teaching and cared deeply about my students. I still think of them today. I can not imagine such a disturbed student. What a terrifying case.

[@BucketHeadianHagg]

Good morning, Dr Grande! Thank you so much for posting this so early. It's a great way to start the day with coffee and crime!

[@AnnMarieKing]

For a vibrant young educator's promise to be destroyed in this senselessly evil and brutal way is tragic. I am often torn around the issue of imprisonment vs rehabilitation when minors commit violent crimes but not in this case.

[@jeffreybrewer8649]

I want remember that answer to the rorschach test... you know, just in case I were to ever need it

[@USALibertarian]

Was there any...you know...actual evidence of psychosis? I guess the voices could have said "don't forget the gloves" and "remember where the recycling bin is in relation to the elevator" but I doubt it. That looks like a very organized for a 14 year old plan execution to me. He wasn't agitated about being asked about Tennessee, he was annoyed that his plan was being delayed.

[@gabe_2544]

Once against a waste of space of a human removes an individual who contributes to making the world a better place, if just by who she was and how she treated others. Colleen took on a role to contribute to the betterment of young people’s lives. When you have a student like Autumn who stays past the time she could have left school just because she wants to be around a particular teacher speaks volumes about how that educator makes others feel. Damn you, P. Chism.

[@jamaaldavis6243]

Dr. Grande you really do eventually cover every case. I've requested things in the past but you're so prolific you're probably just going to get to it eventually anyway 😹 thanks for this upload!! I am hoping you will eventually cover the 2007 Virginia Tech mass shooting and/ or the 2013 Boston Marathon bombing.

[@aporcelaingirl]

I used to live in Danvers and still have lots of family in the area. Watching this case through local media was frightening and so weird at the same time. Danvers High School was right down the road, and had I stayed living there (before we moved as a kid) I would've gone there, close enough to walk. That Hollywood Hits cinema is now out of business. Also Danvers (when Salem Village) decided to split from Salem proper, their petition to the King was refused. Danvers split from Salem anyway, and put the king's answer to the petition on the town's seal.

[@jodiefinney5072]

I live in Danvers and went to Danvers High School. My children are students there now. This crime was horrifying. The morning after it happened we were all notified through a "robo" call that schools in the district were closed due to an ongoing investigation. What is amazing to me is that while it took place during after school hours, there is still a lot of action taking place, and a lot of students, teachers, and people coming and going. If you were to notice a young person, wearing a balaclava, wheeling a very large recycling bin out of the school, down the sidewalk, and up into the wooded area behind the high school it would stick out like a sore thumb. If you watch the survellience video, his pants are covered in blood when he re enters the school after disposing of her body. I cant wrap my brain around the fact that nobody stopped him, if only to ask him about the blood and if he was okay. Im also amazed at the amount of ground he covered on foot that evening. The store he shoplifted from is a few miles away from the high school. After the movie, which wasn't far from the store, he proceeded to make it all the ay to Topsfield, which is the next town over, but a long walk if that is what happened. There were never any reports of him hitching a ride so one has to assume he made it there on foot. Its crazy to me he did all of this after committing murder and putting her body where he did. RIP Colleen.

[@jodiefinney5072]

I might add that the wooded area behind the school is off the parking area which is still fairly full during after school hours with student and faculty coming and going, not to mention parents sitting in their vehicles waiting to pick up their student right at the door he exited the building through.

[@abdisamamedia]

Great analysis Dr G All the way from Kenya

[@h0rriphic]

17:03 Dr. Grande, your input on the validity of Rorschach tests makes me feel infinitely better. I had to undergo this ridiculous psychiatric evaluation as an adolescent. The shrink ended up telling me my results were the same as “people who eventually went on to commit suicide” so they’d have “to watch me closely”. Even if that were true, I have no idea wtf she would have told me that. Do I have issues w/suicidal ideation? Yeah, and yes I’ve tried to take my own life. That being said…I’m not sure what possible benefit there is essentially telling me that I’m low key cursed. Your ultra dry sense of humor is a lifesaver, literally 😉😅

[@KE-mk1fk]

I hope you are okay now, don't let you get down because a "doctor" told you bullshit. I wish you the best for your future. Much love from austria 🇦🇹.

[@AmyAndThePup]

Oh my gosh, she what? Seriously? That's horrible. :( She really should not have said that. It could be seen as putting ideas in someone's head... I'm wincing, just thinking about it. I've had those thoughts, too. I hear you.

[@55bigcheese]

Outstanding episode, well done Dr Grande

[@liquidgeorge]

Your output is truly wonderful, Dr. I would love to see you analyse the literary James Bond, seeing as No Time To Die is imminent. He’s a fascinating and contradictory character in the novels.

[@cassandraespinosa2223]

Being a die hard fan of both the cinematic & literary James Bond for more than a few decades, I would LOVE to watch Dr. Grande's detailed analysis!!😎💗😍🇬🇧👍

[@debbiec4530]

Oh wow thanks for doing this case Dr Grande! I was so surprised to see it come up! Such a horrible case. So very sad. I learned so much more than I knew before. Fantastic job researching this and presenting it. I really appreciate it. I feel for this girl so much for some reason. 🤠💕

[@angelity2949]

I live in a town next to Danvers and I always thought this case was a fever dream and it didn’t actually happen. I heard about it while I was in middle school but it sounded so extreme . Still can’t believe it happened people are so evil.

[@talkbrian1522]

Always appreciate your analysis Dr Todd

[@mikaellugo4146]

Never have I heard of someone getting caught doing so many things that were meant to keep him from being caught

[@renee1961]

Hello, Dr Grande. How are you this evening? This was/is a Horrifying Case!! I still can't believe it happened! 💔💔💔 Thank You for covering it.

[@hayleybourgault4114]

Colleen seemed like a very good person and teacher. I can imagine how scared she must have been. I think Philip should spend the rest of his life in prison This is the saddest story you have told., but you told it with empathy for Colleen.💜❤💙

[@sadezem991]

Especially if she was still alive when shoved into that recycling bin. It's just so fucking sad, a teacher who wanted to help young teenagers taken away by a monster like this. I hope she is able to rest peacefully, I can't imagine what her family and friends have endured.

[@lindaroth6273]

I like your calm and rational analysis of cases, not to mention the occasional droll asides which are funny and spot-on

[@oliviad3326]

A completely senseless killing for absolutely no reason. This case has always stuck with me and turns my stomach. She was an innocent teacher just working in a job she was passionate about. She did nothing wrong. Nothing. 😞

[@kevinmalone3210]

Yeah, it's disturbing how a such an evil crime as this could happen to this woman who was just doing her job, helping her students.

[@StainsStainsStains]

Except for her career choice. Being a teacher is a terrible thing. A terrible waste of an education, a waste of time, a waste of money, and ultimately a waste of a life.

[@magallanesagustin4952]

@@StainsStainsStains you have issues, did you know that?

[@brettmitchell8014]

Awesome video as always brother. Much love from Texas.

[@maureeningleston1501]

Philip thought he wasn't human......well he got that right.

[@heatherbowlan1961]

Thank you for all you do to make your channel the greatest ! Fr.Canada

[@A2929EF]

I am still patiently waiting for the Dylann Roof analysis. Keep them coming Dr Grande!

[@brubru393]

Loved the last commentary on instruments in mental health assessment

[@eucliduschaumeau8813]

I hate to bring up non-clinical terms for people, but in the early 1980s, the "60 Minutes" television program had an episode about adolescents who committed similar crimes. It was Called "Walking Time Bombs". Philip was one of these.

[@xfatal1241]

I live in Andover, this story is still talked about ( as it should be ) and her picture is still everywhere. RIP Colleen