Church of England failed to stop most prolific abuser, exclusive report finds

[@marjoriechung2552]

Wellby should never be in the position he's in.

[@emil_rainbow]

an oil executive.

[@nickcoppard5335]

Spong

[@rogernevin7461]

He'll still have money when it's all called in ! It will be easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.

[@ZZ-su8ph]

He obviously thinks it's not his problem.

[@hansonagbomedarho]

This is damage control. There is more they are hiding abuser in the name of the lord. A diocese in America recently paid compensation for historic abuse of 1300 children awarded 880 million dollars That is just one diocese

[@magswilson2039]

Imagine being an Archbishop and lying through your teeth in front of cameras. Shameful.

[@paulharris2331]

@mrsmum3-60 That was literally because of the Tory party failing at the problem after causing it for 14 years but sure, blame the guy who's been in for less than six months for not immediately solving it.

[@paulharris2331]

@mrsmum3-6

[@gowdsake7103]

Ummm he peddles a iron age myth

[@SteveConkie-t6r]

Imagine believing for one second that a person in a senior position in The Church gives a damn about anything except protecting himself and the church in that order.

[@notorio526]

They've been lying for hundreds of years so

[@HananiYah-Shad]

It's utterly deplorable. Resignation is NOT GOOD ENOUGH. He needs to be in jail......

[@carltaylor4942]

And the archbishop.

[@simongould2384]

This vile excuse for a man should step down and be investigated by the police

[@andrewoliver8930]

The same police that ignored the accusations made against Sir Jimmy Savile.

[@YouTubecanfuckagoat]

The police are complicit.

[@Nushka23]

100%

[@andrewoliver8930]

@simongould2384 Plus the many others who knew it was happening and decided to send him to Africa to carry on with his filthy habit.

[@MarcaWasi-jd6xx]

The police are involved aswell......

[@Ade4fish]

Listening to Welby's mealy-mouthed excuses is like listening to that awful woman who was head of the Post Office. Pathetic

[@colinlyne]

@@Ade4fish They are ( she was!) ministers in the Anglican Church!

[@dfgt-su9ki]

keep going to the church,,, keep obeying your masters,,,,, sick sick humanoids!

[@PollyPop.]

Same energy as Prince Andrew. GUILTY.

[@misterbonzoid5623]

Paula Vennels

[@leberlin]

Yes I agree totally, she was a member of the Clergy and had no industrial experience and never qualified enough for such an important position.

[@keithmooney299]

He's a disgrace and should immediately be removed from his position.

[@jjjovan7778]

He shouldn't resign. He should be sacked

[@chris5634C3PO]

Jailed! Covering up abuse and protecting the abuser is a crime ....right?

[@lynlawley8903]

He should be in prison

[@lynlawley8903]

He should be in jail and never see the light of day again what is going on god help us

[@lonevoice]

Cover up? If you know that something is happening but do nothing about it, aren't you complicit? In that situation your position becomes untenable. The fact that he has not offered his resignation, at a minimum, probably says a lot.

[@Kikatebnpagan]

Arrested

[@sunnybein1]

He’s a ‘sadistic’ abusive bully who should have been jailed.Welby needs to resign.

[@diddywahdiddy975]

C’mon people, don’t be such suckers! MSM is a factory of lies!!! I’ve seen so many manufactured stories, total lies sounding real, I don’t trust them an inch anymore! By saying that, I am not claiming this guy is innocent, only warning you to be careful with MSM “truth”. In particular when it comes to Christianity, which has been constantly on attack by the leftist media. You won’t hear anything about the disgusting Islamic practices, though, since the lefties are in love with Islam. Both are working hand in hand to destroy our Christian heritage. So be extremely careful and don’t get duped!

[@dariagreer3078]

THE CATHOLIC CHURCH ABUSED AND CONT. TO ABUSED CHILDREN ,AND THE CHURCH BISHOPS REMAINED SILENCE. AND COVER UP THE HORRENDOUS ABUSED. THEY HAVE POWERFUL LAWYERS THAT ARE ABLE TO DRAG THE LITIGATION

[@charlesgruppetta1680]

l fail to understand how none of the parents ever took action. l would have been arrested after taking action against such a despicable beast!!!

[@malcolmmitchell6529]

Try attending a Catholic school in the 60s.

[@malcolmmitchell6529]

​@charlesgruppetta1680 my father knocked a Christian father down the school stairs. They were thugs in black.

[@morwennalake5520]

It is despicable that the abuse was ignored by so many and did nothing. Disgusting.

[@bereal6590]

This is terrible! Those poor boys and young men. Unforgivable! SO damaging, my heart goes out to these victims of horrific abuse.

[@bereal6590]

@deadstarlondon seriously, what tf are you talking about. Did anyone mention sexual. Fyi caning in schools wasn't banned until 1986, there are plenty of people younger than 60+ who were caned. This was nothing to do with that. I don't know if you're trolling or just being uncaring. Either way, try and have a bit of compassion for other people.

[@Skygrey2943]

​​​@@deadstarlondonSo what was it then? Why would he abuse them if he wasn't getting some sort of gratification from it? Edited to add: BBC say it was also SA and one boy in Zimbabwe died during one of the beatings.

[@kAbbie-tu1su]

@@deadstarlondonhe had a sound proofed place to beat them so no screams could be heard and some of them had to wear nappies because of the beatings. Are you for real?

[@deadstarlondon]

@@kAbbie-tu1su ok. I didn’t see the whole thing that’s fucked up. You win….I just think it’s offensive they say he was “the worst” offender in COE there are ones who did worse. But yea that’s not normal

[@truefact844]

My father’s head teacher had a selection of canes, I guess it depends what the child had done. Why would you need more than one, unless people would get them for his birthday, you know what it’s like when you have a hobby.😮

[@fredatkins4895]

The Archbishop of Canterbury needs to go

[@aminauwera2646]

All of them are 😈 pretend to God's people and that lies easly give them victims

[@endurancem8778]

So sickening!!!

[@endurancem8778]

​@@aminauwera2646 I am in agreement.

[@SuzanneDeveraux]

This evil man has been exposed. HE IS NO CHRISTIAN. THOSE POOR BOYS. WHAT AN UTTER DISCRACE.

[@georgethepatriot2785]

Who will rid us of this turbulent Priest?

[@Margaret514]

Archbishop you are an appalling embarrassment to the Church and to the British.public. You should be fired and taken to court.

[@frippp66]

Welby just oozes insincerity

[@KnowYoutheDukeofArgyll1841]

He oozes WEF. He's got a bio on their webpage. Not an organisation a so called "man of the cloth" should be a part of.

[@TnaLeslie]

WELBY HAS ALWAYS MADE ME FEEL SICK. AND SUCH A SYCOPHANT TO THE ROYALS. I WAS TOLD BY A METHODIST MINISTER THAT "GOD MOVES IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS"...

[@suzanneevans4157]

Welby is not and never has been a Christian. He is completely the opposite.

[@aclark903]

@@TnaLeslieWelby should resign, but maybe the Church IN England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 just needs to ignore the Church OF England hierarchy at this point & follow Jesus. Merry Christmas.

[@corrinathinks]

So many of these people worship Satan not God. And why they're not sacked or face Justice!

[@salham8694]

Shameful and disgusting cover up.

[@jonatmelbourne7239]

Agree

[@pm1104]

Bastardoes ……..!😢😢😢😢😢

[@lucius4556]

Like Charlie's friend Bishop Peter Ball !

[@diddywahdiddy975]

C’mon people, don’t be such suckers! MSM is a factory of lies!!! I’ve seen so many manufactured stories, total lies sounding real, I don’t trust them an inch anymore! By saying that, I am not claiming this guy is innocent, only warning you to be careful with MSM “truth”. In particular when it comes to Christianity, which has been constantly on attack by the leftist media. You won’t hear anything about the disgusting Islamic practices, though, since the lefties are in love with Islam. Both are working hand in hand to destroy our Christian heritage. So be extremely careful and don’t get duped!

[@Morbius1963]

The archbishop is an "article after the fact". Complicit in this outrage.

[@merlingeikie]

Usually the 'I won't resign', becomes a whimper of, 'Where's the door.' ❤️🇦🇺❤️🇬🇧

[@geraldineafflick3947]

I won’t resign means I am proud, lacking humility, not of god and guided by an unholy spirit… he and others live like gods in palaces…this should not be if you represent Jesus Christ….you should be amongst the people, helping to feed, shelter and provide spiritual guidance…instead they sit on billions of pounds saving it for god….religion

[@KenJones-r1l]

Welby and the Church of England should be held to account.

[@lizbull4263]

This guy can have no shame. Welby & co should be prosecuted - there is no excuse which is why I will never attach myself to any religion. They are all corrupt, no exceptions.

[@stevenhoward3358]

they should, but my guess is they feel they are above the law and hide behind the notion that their god is the final arbiter. They don't do accountability.

[@adampowell5376]

They have been held to account repeatedly. I recommend reading the George Bell case.

[@corryroberts9768]

@@adampowell5376why’s he not in the jail for harbouring this guy then. Absolute peadophile behaviour

[@stevenhoward3358]

@@adampowell5376 what do you call accountability? Welby seems to be at liberty, his only punishment is a bit of guilt he projects as required.

[@kxjx]

Archbishop telling outright lies about child abuse straight up. Let that sink in.

[@gerrycastlemanwarde5933]

Just another religious cult! The cover up is par for the course.

[@ManchesterDev]

More than 40 years ago physical punishment was considered acceptable. Now they call it "abuse". But you can't apply current standards to the past. In 40 years time, may be eating farm animals would be punishable. Who knows?

[@DotBell-m6t]

What a disgrace the archbishop is again. HE SHOULD be sacked by the King. He's done more DAMAGE to the church but will face his day of judgement. Meanwhile we have to tolerate an incompetent leader

[@gerrycastlemanwarde5933]

@@ManchesterDev Sounds like you are excusing the abuse/violence! It was never acceptable for true Christians. Not that there were that many Christians over the last 2000 years.

[@BrendaVanderwey]

Though shoult not LIe, man of the cloth NOT!

[@PadreAlan67]

He very obviously doesn't believe the Bible, or any form of Christian teaching. There is no way he is a Christian. He has found a nice comfortable job for life that doesn't demand too much of him. He is a grifter. He should be in prison as an accomplice to covering this up. He has done more to single-handedly destroy the church than almost anyone in history, and not just with this incident.

[@threethrushes]

Religion is the greatest grift in human history.

[@God_is_love_believe]

I simply do not believe that the Archbishop was unaware of the abuse. These people just think that their class should be able to do whatever they want irrespective of the people they destroy.

[@salham8694]

I do think that he knew. It's historical that lots of priests abused lots of children. He failed those children

[@ClaireMitchell-n6y]

He wasn't unaware.

[@jonzu217]

Of course, he knew.

[@daniel67797]

Dustbin Welby

[@BelfastManUtdTherapy]

1. I grew up a catholic alter boy and we had a priest called fr daniel curran, everyone loved him, turned out hed been abusing hundreds of young boys, he rang my parents asking to take my brother and i on a trip to his holidy home. thankfully my mum said no. as kids in the 80s we were annoyed , to this day we are so thankful my mum knew to say no. 3 years later he was exposed as taking alter boys to his holiday home. evil. anyone who knows this stuff is going on and does nothing should be stuck in prison cos if they wont report it, they are involved in it. 2. THERE ARE no gods. Its bronze-age science.

[@KimSteward-vo7cg]

Welby needs to resign. He is single handedly destroying the Church of England. Get him out.

[@hecateswolf6007]

You’re right there

[@stevemitchell2963]

I agree, the Church of England is in my opinion a lesser place due to his tenure. The Church of England Synod needs to take immediate and robust action to remove Welby from office. It may also be the opportunity to investigate his own past, his involvements, decisions and motivations

[@braindonor8753]

Never had a good reputation has it really... Christians are very cruel people.

[@braindonor8753]

​@stevemitchell2963 could it get any lower?

[@junehitchcock170]

Welby should be sacked.

[@gherkamum]

Welby Must Go...This is terrible! Those poor boys and young men. Unforgivable! SO damaging, my heart goes out to these victims of horrific abuse.😡

[@seajay09]

Welby. This rotten to the core, patronising, arrogant, entitled, sanctimonious despot should be sacked - he hasn’t even got the guts to resign - Head of the Church of England ? - He shouldn’t even be able to walk the streets of this country. “I didn’t know what was going on” - he is a liar as well….

[@alex8293-b7l]

He is a perfect example of why people are tuning their backs on religion.

[@Beez-k7v]

Sometimes that's a good thing. Jesus wants disciples, not religion.

[@diddywahdiddy975]

C’mon people, don’t be such suckers! MSM is a factory of lies!!! I’ve seen so many manufactured stories, total lies sounding real, I don’t trust them an inch anymore! By saying that, I am not claiming this guy is innocent, only warning you to be careful with MSM “truth”. In particular when it comes to Christianity, which has been constantly on attack by the leftist media. You won’t hear anything about the disgusting Islamic practices, though, since the lefties are in love with Islam. Both are working hand in hand to destroy our Christian heritage. So be extremely careful and don’t get duped!

[@keithjackman8886]

Spineless Welby has a lot to answer for. He is part of the problem.

[@diddywahdiddy975]

C’mon people, don’t be such suckers! MSM is a factory of lies!!! I’ve seen so many manufactured stories, total lies sounding real, I don’t trust them an inch anymore! By saying that, I am not claiming this guy is innocent, only warning you to be careful with MSM “truth”. In particular when it comes to Christianity, which has been constantly on attack by the leftist media. You won’t hear anything about the disgusting Islamic practices, though, since the lefties are in love with Islam. Both are working hand in hand to destroy our Christian heritage. So be extremely careful and don’t get duped!

[@dominikaxy]

I just want to say that investigative journalism is very important ! Thank you to this journalist woman and others for their work.

[@touriel8943]

I was asked to set up a 'naughty kids' outreach under my local CofE. When they new vicar came he refused to sign any of the Club or Church policies (child protection/behavioral etc) and would have ungovernable outbreaks of rage. I had managed to finally get a lump of funding paid into the Church account and he closed down the Club with no warning. When I informed the Trustees and then Bishops Office, everyone smiled like robots and did nothing. The Church of England is exactly that - not the Church of Christ any more.

[@braindonor8753]

Most people involved in religion are cruel.

[@touriel8943]

@@braindonor8753 Tbf, the Latin 'Religio' means ANY system of belief and practice, not necessarily involving god. for example Veganism or LGBTQ can discriminate too.

[@HorriFied-s4n]

​@@braindonor8753That is so true. And pedos, as well.

[@HorriFied-s4n]

​@@touriel8943 Don't play the combination game. What youbmentioned is not religion

[@touriel8943]

@@HorriFied-s4n Dont play with your 'combinations' either. In classic antiquity, religiō broadly meant conscientiousness, sense of right, moral obligation, or duty to anything.[20] In the ancient and medieval world, the etymological Latin root religiō was understood as an individual virtue of worship in mundane contexts; never as doctrine, practice, or actual source of knowledge.[21][22] In general, religiō referred to broad social obligations towards anything including family, neighbors, rulers, and even towards God.[23] Religiō was most often used by the ancient Romans not in the context of a relation towards gods, but as a range of general emotions which arose from heightened attention in any mundane context such as hesitation, caution, anxiety, or fear, as well as feelings of being bound, restricted, or inhibited.[24] The term was also closely related to other terms like scrupulus (which meant "very precisely"), and some Roman authors related the term superstitio (which meant too much fear or anxiety or shame) to religiō at times.[24] When religiō came into English around the 1200s as religion, it took the meaning of "life bound by monastic vows" or monastic orders.[19][23] The compartmentalized concept of religion, where religious and worldly things were separated, was not used before the 1500s

[@jacquelinekilgour7725]

Makes me sick. Im a survivor of abuse. I'm 64 and still fighting for justice....these Pedos never get a long sentence inside !

[@deadstarlondon]

It’s bad reporting there was nothing sexual mentioned. It was obviously just an old school teacher who caned his students. I got caned. The strongest generations who built this country got caned at school

[@stephenholmes1036]

I agree

[@remainanonymous93]

Did you see what was written on the podium of Donald Trump when he delivered his victory speech? It read, 'Trump will fix it.' Guess who else had that slogan? Yes, it was Jimmy Saville - Jim will fix it. They are rubbing it in everyone's faces. Now look at the UK, both the PM and King Charles were close associates of Jimmy Savile. Trump and Epstein were close whether MAGAs admit it or not. Unless one is wilfully blind, it is obvious who is running the Western World. These people need to be exposed and punished. Thousands of children suffered at the hands of these sadistic predators. Our God is a God of Justice. These people will be exposed. All of them. I am sure of it. I pray you find peace in your heart madam.

[@carltonascarf7694]

Got a long sentence inside you tho

[@PBI45]

wtf​@@carltonascarf7694

[@Analiffey16]

As an Irish woman who was on the receiving end of the Catholic Church in Ireland, the powers that be have always been aware of the shenanigans in the church regarding children and as they called us “ fallen women “the church whether it be Catholic or podestant makes not one iota of difference it’s one big cesspit of filth! Welby needs to be held accountable!

[@glamourgirl-n9b]

Symptoms of overall societal moral decay.

[@Totajee79]

Utter disgrace! My heart breaks for all the victims.

[@zechan8208]

"No, I am not going to resign" ! ....and this monster was telling us morals just a few months ago....

[@braveorslave]

Tbh he will go. He knows he has to go, if you listened he actually said 'im not going to resign....over this' he just doesnt want this to be his legacy, but he knows he will no longer be able to lecture us on morals as he is so fond of doing so he must know he has to go. He just doesnt want to be tarnished with this

[@ZZ-su8ph]

He sounds like a 'politician'. He'll be gone soon. To be replaced with the next cardboard cut out.

[@tigading2177]

LOL that is the pretty much the hallmark of US, UK policies, in spite of all the fakery, they are still lecturing the world!

[@Grace-o4n5i]

The effects of criminals in high places on the country.

[@adriennethomas7174]

Welby gives me the creeps...always has. He seems hugely inauthentic to me.

[@MissJensk1]

Me too

[@johndean958]

you are right.

[@jbn668]

And me

[@PlantbasedRooster]

Totally 👍

[@marsy1480]

Agree. Just something about him!

[@nikkihamilton4374]

Welby should be MADE to resign ….not to ‘suggest’ he should! Disgusting! Is Welby complicit in abuse ? Can’t believe this cover-up! It should be investigated NOW!

[@tinygold772]

King is head of the Church of England and this muppet put the crown on the kings head in the coronation- so why hasn’t the king sacked him?! Or at the very least condemned him

[@vincentvangogh8092]

i dont thing they have a procedure to do that

[@toni6053]

No he should be fired. All he's doing here is making excuse up for his abject failure to hold abusers to account and protect children. He's an immoral hypocritical man of the highest order.

[@rogernichols1124]

"I take responsibility for this". Resign, then! I find this man's attitude disgraceful.

[@nbamford03]

There is a wicked rumour going around that the Archbishop of Canterbury is considering converting to Christianity

[@peterroe6233]

He won't be accepted into the church

[@whatrubbishthishandle]

Don’t joke about evil

[@w.urlitzer1869]

Mr Welby admits to 11 years of negligence and failure, he should resign.

[@chris5634C3PO]

If he covered up abuse he shouldn't resign , he should be in jail!

[@lynlawley8903]

This is not acceptable no he is out and blaming everyone it's a time to go and should be king charles get rid of him please he is a traitor to God s service

[@lynlawley8903]

He should be in jail

[@susankromer4430]

How can any normal person ever trust this man again? I guess he’s got friends in high places……

[@auraman1000]

Man of God? not by Christian standards as for the other lot?

[@danking8379]

This man is shocking . He goes against the laws of the land and the words of the bible .

[@thebatridesagain]

As slippery as an eel. He’s ruined the CofE and he’s enabled an abuser. He should resign, it’s a business and a pay check to him, he’s completely ungodly.

[@SpittingIdiots]

Welby is ex oil industry and a wef puppet

[@frpaddy]

💯💯💯💯💯

[@CorinaGilligan]

Absolutely , the oppposite of Godly. Demonic

[@MacrobianNomad]

He’s the head of a paedo institution anyway, free yourselves from the shackles of sky daddy and the charlatans who speak in his imaginary name!

[@braveorslave]

Its not a pay cheque, he is already rich, lets not forget the guy was an oil executive. Its the power trip for him being arch bishop.

[@maria-zs8mu]

Archbishop Welby should be sacked. By his own admission he knew SOMETHING and did not NOTHING. The people who ignore, minimize or cover up for these paedophiles and abusers are despicable and should be charged with some type of crime. Of course he says he's not going resign, he wants to cling to the power, prestige and material benefits that come from the position of Archbishop.

[@rose2242]

It is my understanding he was due to retire before the Coronation but agreed to stay so he could be part of the Coronation and said he would resign after this event,. Why has this not happened? As his Royal Highness is head of the Church, he should insist he goes.

[@pontiouspilotman]

Absolute Disgrace that he feels he should not resign!If he won’t go he should be sacked!

[@CGordon-p7p]

Privilege keeps a lot people out of prison. Church credibility is low.

[@azinegg]

“ welby” the odious arrogant head of the so called Church of England” should be sacked immediately .. what awful traumas these poor victims have endured, at the hands of his buddy”.

[@eugenemurtagh2085]

When people feel they are beyond accountability they will do wicked things, seen time and time again.

[@bettymorgan4735]

The higher they are the farther they fall. "prince" Andrew? Elizabeth knew she was the head of the Church of England. Let's hope Catherine and William can keep their reputations clean. But who really cares?

[@pixelfu623]

He's been a terrible Archbishop through and through. Just get him out of the position already. Those poor men, goodness me.

[@jongarratt5383]

Shocker...... the Church refuses to condemn abusers

[@bigboyshit1]

And the masses of Islamic abusers?

[@ZZ-su8ph]

Not much compassion for the people affected showing up in this very public appearance.

[@freethinker--]

All religions do this, abuse is to common.

[@imperishablestars33]

Actually, the church is the most public about this. Look up the Vice article of Rabbis abusing boys in the bathhouses, no one will touch that.

[@davepugh2519]

Just business as usual.

[@alisondare7203]

He should resign. Senior Church Leaders need to be held accountable and the government needs to make a stand. It's outrageous. Imagine all those adults that are suffering with PTSD and will NEVER be able to recover. Welby needs to appreciate the extent of the damage that was caused.

[@Fazzer57]

Listening to this as a survivir of child sexual abuse and child rape - my heart goes out to these boys who are now adults. The scars it leaves especially when my parent knew and did nothing. I hope a time will come when they are able to manage their lives better.

[@lynclarke6184]

Scarred for life.

[@SMariaKS]

❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹

[@davebishop8961]

In positions of authority, in the UK, the number one priority is to protect the reputation of the institution. Morality and empathy towards the victims of wrong doing within the institution are regarded as being completely irrelevant until the wrong doing is exposed. It's disgusting and sickening.

[@warwickpayne3338]

Well said

[@HansLasser]

Not only in UK. Look at the catholic church everywhere in the world. Disgusting!

[@fabriziocamisani5477]

Omission of aid in traffic accidents is a crime punishable by law, why not here? Why do they get way with covering these acts over and over for decades?

[@1Hopeinhim]

God is not unaware and will hold all accountable. ✝️

[@ykrgfk]

'I take responsibility', he says. In what way is he taking responsibility? He's completely concerned with self-exoneration not taking responsibility. He is a disgrace.

[@WhichDoctor1]

Yeah, if he truly believes he is responsible for this then he’d resign. No one can believe themselves to be responsible for allowing decades of child abuse and remain in that position. The guilt would be unbearable. Either he’s lying about taking responsibility or he knows he’s responsible and feels insufficient guilt for it

[@juliet7703]

Yep 💯💯

[@melliecrann-gaoth4789]

“I take responsibility “. That line has most likely come through a very dynamic team of legal and HR professionals. The bill footed by the donations of the faithful

[@barkershill]

Agree with every word .

[@magsrankin6166]

Yeah, caught that. It's all about clearing his name, which he variously attempts to do. He's an absolute sleeze, and one of the worst appointments to the English Church in modern history.

[@PatriciaKey-v1k]

Welby is shameful and should be sacked and give an abject apology. He's the reason I left the CofE. He's quick to give away money for reparations but takes no responsibility for the abuse perpetrated against these poor people by his own clergy.

[@didshereallysaythat]

Sack him now because he has been complicit 😔

[@stevesteve2837]

All hypocrites....he is a millionaire working in a church of immense wealth, with millions in dodgy investments....and this man heads it all. Utterly shameful.

[@PatrickKelly-lz3pv]

the king heads the church of England

[@basque888]

But for some reason, this organisation represents our Creator... and people believe that.

[@PatrickKelly-lz3pv]

@@basque888 The Church of England is brand new and still in the wrapper as religions go, It was founded by a man who could not get the divorce he wanted and obey the Catholic Church at the same time.

[@magsrankin6166]

​@@PatrickKelly-lz3pv Figurehead only, it seems. Could we seriously see Charles initiating any sort of moral audit on these perpetrators? I rather think not, sadly.

[@heatpump8566]

Welby is a disgrace. The church is a shadow of what it was as a result of this man. Please retire welby asap.

[@tuesdaydelaney4480]

The Church ⛪️ should be made to answer these crimes it is not untouchable

[@RachelLondon]

He must resign.

[@ElizabethSmith-gn1lm]

Welby OUT !!!!!

[@MarjorieDuncan-lk7lz]

This is disgraceful & cruel he needs to speak out or leave, seems the Archbishop turns a blind eye to everything, it has been brought to his attention by local vicars & an MP( in the House of Commons) of the industrial scale of false converts to Christianity by migrates who then claim asylum because of peresussion because of their "Christian faith" only to never be seen in a Christian church again & as local vicar told him he's seen the individuals going into mosque while pretenting conversion & awaiting home office approval.

[@thomasshepard6030]

Someone should start a petition to get welby out

[@KennethMccreary]

he is n better than the abusers. he knew it happened and failed to react. he should be forced to resign

[@davidcarroll5686]

How can a liar retain his position in the church??

[@DeeOdzta]

DISGRACE - "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves." (Matthew <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="435">7:15</a>, NKJV)

[@shaqyardie8105]

Awesome, now what is god going to do about it? Have people write it in a book and then watch on like an idiot?

[@gowdsake7103]

Beware of ignorant iron age myths

[@MiltonMoJunction]

It’s the usual religious lies and hypocritical actions, they occur in all religions. Let’s just admit that all religions are false because there is no god, they are just organisations that are self serving for power and money.

[@user-po7jt8co7w]

Sick religion

[@JelMain]

No prophecy involved here, just experience.

[@childofgod8607]

He should be fired NOW ! 🤬Im a Christian ✝️ woman and am appalled !!!! 😡 This world is full of Evil and God is watching !!!!!

[@rominiyi1385]

There is no god watching at all ... that is the very reason this world is so full of cruelty and evil ...

[@CorinaGilligan]

These psychopaths seem to hide in lots of places. Hidden in plain sight . I sensed no empathy or remorse from any of them , just matter of fact words. Made me feel really uncomfortable watching it 😢 Lies after lies and cold stone hearts

[@lindaswan6606]

The teaching profession is also a great place for peodfiles to hide. My son kept it hidden for over 16 years. And what happened when this low life finally got to court. He walked free. My heart goes out to the other boys and their families. My son will never get over it.

[@ZZ-su8ph]

@@CorinaGilliganYes. Just another seedy politician.

[@Whiteraven-m1p]

@@lindaswan6606 so sorry 😞

[@patriciaoreilly8907]

No remorse no anger , no nothing from lying Welby.

[@judithmatthews8460]

I’m confused. He knew the man was abusing young men but he did nothing because he was told not to. He lied in a previous interview. He thinks that’s acceptable. How strange that he seems to have no acquaintance with the 10 commandments or compassion and integrity. He shouldn’t resign he should be excommunicated

[@SimplyMe-SM]

*"I will not resign" - Justin Welby, 7th November. "I believe that stepping aside is in the best interests of the Church of England" - Justin Welby, 12th November.*

[@ClothedByGrace]

Incredible. You couldn’t make it up.

[@Infidel-y5j]

King Charles actually told him to resign. He had no choice. If Charles hadn't said anything he'd still be there, continuing with daily business.

[@SimplyMe-SM]

@@Infidel-y5j *Actually Welby did have a choice. In fact, he had many choices. As far back as 1978 and again in 1981, 2013, 2017 and 2021 he was presented with choices to bring Smythe to the attention of authorities, but he elected not to act on those choices.*

[@Infidel-y5j]

@@SimplyMe-SM No, I meant he had no choice but to resign after Charles told him to. Sure, he could have resigned anytime but he didn't want to; and if Charles hadn't forced his hand he would have had no intention of resigning over this matter. Charles gave him an option: jump or be pushed.

[@SimplyMe-SM]

@@Infidel-y5j *I completely get your point. However, if Welby had done the right thing the instant that he became aware of Smythe's appalling crimes his resignation would never have been necessary.*

[@jimmyhun91]

Didn't he defend prince Andrew, or tell us that we need to forgive him or some such horrible waffle...shows who he really serves.

[@robinholland1136]

It's the old trope, 'love the sinner and hate the sin' again! Confess, be granted absolution and carry on regardless. As morally corrupt as is possible. I'm an atheist and have a better sense of right and wrong than these people.

[@lervish1966]

What would Pesus do?

[@LaPtiteAnglaise]

A member of my family was abused as a child. When as an adult their mother died - they found the same abuser had also abused their sibling. They had both lived in shame and silence for decades. This abuser is still alive. Linked to kids music schools in Scotland. Has an MBE. A ‘cherished’ member of church and charity groups/societies in Scotland. A ‘brother in the craft.’ Only one sibling was strong enough emotionally to give a statement to police - so this person will continue to live without the world knowing what they are. The siblings were both professional people. Their accounts are deeply upsetting. These people destroy lives.

[@RichardsCollins-ie3yg]

I was abused also, I am so sorry for your story. I wish and pray for better people in our life’s.

[@jmillar71110]

Should contact Scottish Child Abuse Inquiry. Investigations are still ongoing for it. Especially if the person is still involved teaching children.

[@braveorslave]

You should be brave and name him here. Its the silence that allows this sort of stuff to go on. By not naming him youre cowtowing to him. If they are still working with kids and you wont name them well.....smh. never be scared of bacons.

[@MissJensk1]

@braveorslave Totally agree. And I love your name!

[@MissJensk1]

Name him. Why cover for this person?

[@MrPotsy81]

Just saw a recent interview with Welby. He talks about his feelings, his family, consulting with his wife.😳 Is he tone deaf? Does he think we care? Disgraceful people. Arrest them. BTW, a relevant film is "Oranges and Sunshine" about church abuse in Australia.

[@Whiteraven-m1p]

GET WELBY OUT

[@zibanorman3394]

you say ‘ i didn’t know it was that bad’ how bad did it need to be before taking action? This is a direct question you need to answer.

[@rominiyi1385]

Why didn't god stop any of this from even happening before it happened. If god is so powerless ... Why are you all worshipping him, as that means the devil must be more powerful than god and have power over him If god has been watching all this happen and has never done anything about it while being all powerful ... that makes god an almighty demon. Either way I have no desire to believe in such a self evidently fictitious figment of the primitive human imagination.

[@gooders7366]

@@rominiyi1385answers, if they are anywhere, are in Dostoevsky. Rowan Williams learned Russian in order to be able to read it in the original.

[@stephenatkinson6729]

​@@rominiyi1385Well said and very true .😮

[@Beez-k7v]

If he said he didn't know it was that bad, he should have investigated when he first learned of what Smyth was doing which he considered to be not so bad. In other words, he should have investigated to find out how bad it was.

[@berlynify]

..how are they allowed to occupy such positions? HEALING & SOLACE to the survivors - WE HEAR YOU, WE BELIEVE YOU 🩷

[@NathanLWHughes]

This is why Channel 4 MUST survive, investigative journalism like this is rare but so so important to our society. Hope the victims can find some peace.

[@thereverendchislet9566]

😂

[@TheHateSpeechChannel]

Is this satire?

[@lebaggins10]

Channel 4 is going where all the other TV channels are - down the tubes - any organisation that can hire such a toxic woman as a presenter deserves to go bust

[@rmetcalfe8208]

Friend of the Archbishop of Canterbury! That says it all. He turned his back on his moral obligation to report this to the police in favour of his mate. The damage done to children following this is inexcusable. He MUST go and Now

[@JeanMackie-nn6uh]

Seems he doesn't believe in God,as he would know that he would be punished for what he's let happen to all those poor poor victims 😢

[@prettyricky8988]

Jesus, he's literally turned into a politician. See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. I don't want to lose my powerful position. Disgusting!

[@MissJensk1]

I've been saying for years that Welby is not a Christian. When he spoke at the coronation I had to leave the room. I felt repelled in my spirit. I know who he serves.

[@gowdsake7103]

He follows the path of YOUR utterly ignorant vile iron age god

[@sarahann530]

He speaks for god though .

[@johndean958]

Well said. He is a disgusting person, hiding the truth for his own benefit. Sack him immediately. A total sham and disgrace, whilst hiding and representing in the name of Jesus.

[@eleffcee1296]

I know who he serves and it is not The Lord

[@20quid]

The thing is that he is a Christian. Every Christian denomination; Anglican, Catholic, Southern Baptist, they all have these problems. It's part and parcel of Christianity.

[@Danny123a]

He must resign

[@daniel67797]

Wallowing Welby OUT

[@PortsladeBySea]

He should be sacked and his pension withdrawn 🛐🙏😢

[@rogerfielding1117]

And not replaced​@@PortsladeBySea

[@criticalthinker2022]

“And no wonder, for Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.”-2 Corinthians <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="674">11:14</a> I am a Christian, but I’ve stopped attending the institutional church. They are so often run like businesses, there’s so much false doctrine in every single denomination and then things like this. True Christians would be able to discern this man was evil and it is incomprehensible to think some of these boys were older teenagers. How was he able to wield such power over them without grabbing the canes and striking him back? I just don’t understand how it could’ve gone on for such a long time and nobody spoken out or even told their parents. The wife is just as culpable. It is a selfish thing to allow so many people to suffer to protect your own self and your families image. She is just as evil as he is, and everyone else who knew about it and did nothing. Satan IS the prince of this world!

[@DocDaddyKool-o8b]

The Church of England new what was going on with John Smyth abusing young men over 40 years ago, and he was allowed to leave the country to carry on his abuse abroad is shocking shame on you Church of England.

[@CorinaGilligan]

“Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves

[@nickcoppard5335]

​@@CorinaGilliganbeware the church of perverts

[@abdulkhan925]

Why are none of the "Patriotic" media, politicians, Farage et al not questioning if there is something in the "culture" of the CofE or English that lead to such systematic abuse? This is what happens anytime a vulgar individual or small gang of abusers are non white or happen to be born muslim.

[@ZZ-su8ph]

It seems the easiest religious way. Never protect the innocent. RC no different.

[@Skygrey2943]

BBC says that a boy in Zimbabwe died from one of his beatings. It seems a bit weird C4 left that out.

[@ellisburton8733]

Once again we see how young people should never be unchapperoned with authority figures, as a survivor my self. Heart goes out to all the poor victims.

[@GertyColeman-k8c]

Sack his boss and close down all the premises where this sick practice was allowed by one who sat by and knew everything but chose not to intervene to protect innocent children.

[@johnharrison8857]

Welby should have informed the Police and asked them to investigate the allegations thoroughly…..

[@saoirse7098]

Welby likes the power too much to resign

[@MargaretUtley-x6e]

My thoughts exactly , a man with anything about him would resign .

[@PlantbasedRooster]

👍 agreed

[@davepugh2519]

That's what the church is all about - power, nothing more.

[@tinygold772]

@@saoirse7098 yep and living in his actual castle!

[@terryjacob8169]

A vile man, pretending to be a Christian.

[@MG-hi1ej]

“If you look at the way the churches have behaved over the centuries, people have turned away from them because they no longer believe in them as a moral arbiter.” -- Tim Maguire, media officer for Humanist Society Scotland

[@Beez-k7v]

That's true but sad because there is no other source to be trusted. No, not even the government. The C ok f E should be purgedby those in the church who have done no wrong. The original Church of England was the REFORMED Church of We England. A newly reformed C of E should always be reforming.

[@KevanWhittaker]

Well done Welby, great job. The obvious follow-up question to your admission that you failed to act further, or even at all, on the information you were presented with, is, why was that?

[@magsrankin6166]

Precisely! Why didn't he act? Protecting his own racket, no doubt, and in effect colluding with other paedophiles.

[@capt.bart.roberts4975]

Not surprised, we had one in my local parish church. He was very friendly with The Bishop of Chichester, who was another serial abuser.

[@capt.bart.roberts4975]

Fortunately, I was a weird looking kid!

[@Ken_oh545]

@@capt.bart.roberts4975 .. and subject of a scurrilous limerick

[@jonzu217]

The Bishop of Chichester seems to be well-connected!

[@ZZ-su8ph]

They believe in the truth. The whole truth. And nothing but the truth. So help them God???

[@robinholland1136]

The diocese of Chichester wasn't short of abusers. An ex colleague, who was a priest and school 'chaplain', as well as being an assistant principal was given a lengthy prison sentence for abusing adolescent boys. And nobody in the church was aware?! Highly unlikely.

[@lynnbargewell3833]

No apologies from Welby, or even acknowledgement of those poor boys who were brutally abused by that vile human being. Makes you wonder what else he’s keeping quiet about?????? Welby is in a position of power and trust, how can he continue to preach to people about living in truth ? Absolute hypocrisy. HE NEEDS TO GO, and all those OTHER BISHOPS and CLERGY who were aware of what Smythe was doing. Smythe is dead, but those he abused still have to live with the horrors of what he did . Welby should be sued for keeping silent.

[@richardandjosephine]

Since proposing Paula Vennells for Bishop of London, it just goes to show that Welby is totally incompetent. He should resign now.

[@anomalyldn]

He did WHAT?!? I'll double check this but if so, it only confirms that he is a 'pawn/puzzle piece' of 'The establishment' who will tow the line and stick to the status quo REGARDLESS of his true beliefs/opinions/morals [or that of 'his' church] to keep his power/influence/relevance etc and not lose ^followers/believers/supporters^ [^^ - FUNDERS/INCOME]

[@Tolpuddle581]

Vennels should be in prison for what she did.

[@abdulkhan925]

Where was Tommy Waxy Lemon Nobinson to expose this disgusting abuse? Oh I forgot he's blind to non Muslim abusers, he was also too busy being a "patriot" and "brave warrior" inciting hatred, division, anti immigrant hate not to mention his usual Islamphobia. He was also too busy griffting whilst sunning himself.

[@peterjermey7235]

​@@anomalyldnand he gave another abuser an award and he also claims to have known nothing about his abuse either

[@MissJensk1]

Incompetent? No. Evil.

[@stephentaylor7550]

They covered up crimes should go to jail

[@rayericphillips]

Tip of a very rotten iceberg. Absolutely disgusting. The CE of are the largest owner of land in London.

[@amandajackson6714]

Welby has to go what a liar.

[@PortsladeBySea]

Telling lies is a sin. He is therefore a sinner 🛐🙏😢

[@PattyBremner-wi2ii]

These people should be dealt with by the public they should not be ina position to preach to anyone and whilst the victims are suffering this guy has to be sacked. No matter what their system is resign now as in NOW You are a b …..hypocrite

[@Beez-k7v]

That's just a given, even for archbishops.

[@joolslogan694]

So resign for any of the other reasons where you have let the C of E fall into disrepair.

[@lugano1999]

The review should not have been done by the church. It should have been done by the police.

[@andrewjankowski7137]

He isn't going to resign. Where is Christian humility and true compassion for the victims and abused. He doesn't need advice from senior colleagues; he needs a conscience - and a heart.

[@Karen-i7d6p]

So depressing. All of these Men who knew and did nothing. The tragedy of these ruined lives. I for one cannot take part in an organisation that claims authority over faithful congregations. This Welby has to go, and to my mind, ANYONE who knew and covered it up should be in court. They are complicit.

[@janetmontgomery-r6j]

Agree... Complicjt

[@sylvia4272]

And he is taking cover by inveigling himself with KC3.

[@keithfowler2013]

Did the teachings of Jesus condone this behaviour . Did he say , 'abuse,for you will be protected ????' It's time for the church to be disbanded, and all these criminals brought to justice

[@nicemelody6818]

My prayers are with all who have suffered at the hands of this man. I speak from experience when I say that I understand the pain and terror of life long mental and physical scars. My heart wants to share how after 35 years in therapy I walk this earth easier than I did when consumed by unimaginable pain and grief. You will all heal, you will all find a way through the worst that he dealt you and you will come to know thy self and that self is worth fighting for. 🙏

[@Beez-k7v]

Nice. Thanks!

[@meme4one]

Hes one of many. All covering for each other.

[@braveorslave]

I dont believe he is one. Ppl would have come forward no? I just believe they dont want the scandal.

[@meme4one]

@braveorslave people have been coming forward about abuse in the church since the 1980s as far as I can remember. There is a lot of shame and guilt in reporting it as well as threats, cover ups and people wanting to just leave it in the past. It's probably happened since day 1 of the church as its the perfect place for an abuser to do their vile acts and secret and with threats of damnation for reporting it.

[@Beez-k7v]

It was 50 years ago. And Smyth's more recent activities were with African Boys in Africa. Plus, one must consider the shame the victims undoubtedly feel. That's one reason why so many victims don't come forward.

[@Beez-k7v]

Right! 💯

[@margaretcurrie4093]

Yes agree it goes to the very top.. They just haven't been caught.. 🤦👎

[@dd7521]

No one needs a church, we just need to have a personal relationship with God. My opinion.

[@chrisstones1249]

Those that covered the abuse up are just as guilty if not more so knowing what the beast was doing .

[@phabebarcelona863]

Correct

[@mary50-tl7hi]

More guilty

[@peterjermey7235]

This isnt the only abuser Welby had an association with. Its disgraceful

[@PortsladeBySea]

There are thousands of them. They protect and cover for each other 😢🛐🫢

[@lukmaes6290]

The same in Belgium, not a single priest or nun jailed, the archbishop (also accused of abuse by his nephew) "resigned" and now lives quietly in a French convent

[@mpf1983]

Welby is an utter disgrace.