Hyper7 Round 4 keyboard review (Cherry MX New Nixie)

[@ArthurD]

"70 percent keyboard? Sorry, mine is 170 percent"

[@Sithhy]

That's the only 70% keyboard I would accept

[@benirodriguez9516]

Lol... They make it this big so that they can bring TKL options in the future (The T would be for ten, twenty, thirty, and the they will add 2x or TT and the likes)... 😂

[@ehsnils]

Impressive size and it looks like a pretty impressive base to make a retro computer keyboard. Now I'd like it to have the "Return" key in vertical orientation to allow for the extra key found on some Euro keyboards. That's going to be a great movie prop though - like for a new "Wargames" movie.

[@elrictraver8275]

And it scales up to over 200%

[@Blackbirddc]

I'm tired of everyone wanting smaller keyboards. This is the direction I want to go! BIGGER!

[@thomase13]

I have wanted something like this for so long! If only I could buy the top part separately, I could have something ergonomic too!

[@brodriguez11000]

Goes with bigger hands.

[@pedro_peyote]

i never understood that. Do i look like i have the hands of a gnome? I cramp up when i have to use tiny keyboards. Thats why i dont like laptops.

[@Blackbirddc]

@pedro_peyote I'm 6ft tall. Not gigantic but I feel cramped on most keyboards. Would love a standard of some slightly wider spacing and key caps.

[@honestgoat]

Damn skippy. As I always say. If it dont have a numpad, it aint a keyboard.

[@luceatlux]

This keyboard is a big F you to the "small keyboard only" meta of the hobby. I LOVE IT

[@bobweiram6321]

Agreed. Small keyboards have gone to absurdly impractical.

[@benton__]

Ironically, the same people who love 40s also tend to love H7

[@Chyrosran22]

@@benton__ There is a 40% version of the Hyper7 xD .

[@tanael]

​@@Chyrosran22...I want both

[@hyperturbotechnomike]

I kinda dislike this trend too. For my productive 3D/CAD/Engineering workstation PC, i want at least a numpad. I'm currently using a "110%" keyboard with three region layouts and some special keys for the most common software shortcuts. I speak German, Lithuanian, Russian and English [UK]. For gaming or recreational PCs, i don't really care that much about the keyboard to be honest, because i barely use it. On my gaming PC i replaced an old PS/2 Cherry G80 that was half broken with a 50€ cooler master which has some sort of chinese fake knockoff cherry mx brown switches. Have it for a year and it works fine so far. //edited: Another issue i have with most mechanical keyboards i see on-line: they often are only english layout with the narrow return key. I'm used to have the taller dual row one which looks like an upside down "L".

[@Ivwin]

I dont need it. I dont need it. I dont need it.... I neeeeeeeeeed IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!

[@Alpha8713]

Same. I don't need it, and I don't even like the layout, but I fucking want it.

[@ArthurD]

This keyboard has a handle. A MOTHER-ASS-FUCKING HANDLE. HOLY FUCK.

[@maliciousbugman]

...Why do I suddenly want to see the case painted in Gamecube indigo now?

[@ragetist]

It's for the keyboard warriors, with 5kg they can finally take their battle-spirit to real life and use it as a mace.

[@thomase13]

@@ragetistVery clever! XD

[@ahmetrefikeryilmaz4432]

...and wheels.

[@YDV669]

Handle, pfft. Back in the day, you could swing a keyboard by its thick-ass cable and use either the giant AT-style connector or the keyboard itself as a weapon.

[@gljames24]

I've been making the joke that I hate the trend of 60% keyboards and would prefer a 160% keyboard and I'm so happy someone made it! The fact that the degree symbol isn't on regular keyboards is a crime!

[@awildweeb6713]

Finally a keyboard with enough keys for modded minecraft

[@DxBlack]

Oh you ain't kidding 😭

[@rabbittris]

Lol

[@exynos632]

never in my life i have clicked video this fast.

[@EposVox]

Finally, a keyboard that actually meets my needs

[@Kvantum]

A video of yours talking about what a streamer could do with one of these would be insane.

[@tombuck]

Great minds think alike.

[@budthecyborg4575]

5:45 We need to bring back the split spacebar standard. A few years ago I bought a 60% layout keyboard with a split spacebar and the gaming utility of two keys for your thumb is insane, sprint is now almost as universal as jump in videogames and having both activated by your thumb feels so good it makes every other keyboard obsolete. Five-part spacebar is a bit much yes but splitting the spacebar with just space/shift is perfect.

[@purplelord8531]

side note - the more you split your spacebar, you have to deal with smaller and eventually less stabs all 1u gang

[@IsaacOtto]

@@purplelord8531 Hard agree. I for one have found my forever layout with the Planck (and its cousin the Let's Split)

[@user-lv6rn9cf8m]

@@purplelord8531 I'd only need a 1,25 size key placed under and between N and M. Looks like shit though. A big fat spacebar is so much more aesthetically pleasing. Like I like retro keyboards. A split spacebar on my dream keyboard would look so wrong.

[@purplelord8531]

@@user-lv6rn9cf8m doesn't look like shit if it's all 1u.

[@ares395]

Never thought about it but it sounds amazing indeed

[@RF-INF]

I'm sorry Minivan, i have found a new love

[@weatherseed8994]

Put the minivan in the garage, I'm taking the omnibus to work.

[@ChatGPT1111]

I ditched my sliderule and abacus just to have this keyboard.

[@purplepothos5794]

That case would be an opera house for clicky switches.

[@Kvantum]

Mine is being built with Box Jades so we'll soon find out.

[@BrianTRice77]

I love that this thing actually has the keyset-completist philosophy of the original Symbolics Ivory keyboards (yes, Lisp machines), down to the semantic keys and geometric symbol row at the top.

[@bluephreakr]

Hyper, Meta, _and_ Greek. All in a single keyboard!

[@TurboLoveTrain]

I've never met anyone that wrote lisp codes so fast they needed separate buttons for the symbols. The recursion is the hard part--not typing ();%$#@&

[@BrianTRice77]

@@TurboLoveTrain The LispM keyboard does provide () keys that do not require holding the shift modifier. The greek symbols are for symbolic math and some APL support. Lisp's MacSymA was the symbolic algebra program, and there was a more comprehensive symbolic package on an extra CD. I think what surprises people the most is the C compiler toolchain! Which uses the type-tagged RAM features of the LispM to provide debugger traps in case of a fault of almost any kind!

[@TurboLoveTrain]

@@BrianTRice77 I would never ever trust a computer interpolator to process symbolic representation inputs for any equation system that matters. Truthfully the old symbolic math pretty antiquated and a big reason physics has been in a dead end for decades. Ram tagging is neat and all but x86 is antiquated and ARM isn't much better in addressing. L1 should be a phased array intermeshed between layers not a separate block--this isn't the 70s. It would be better to be using ternary instead of binary as well but IBM will never let that happen on their watch.

[@BrianTRice77]

I’m talking about an equivalent to Mathematica. Don’t be obtuse.

[@internettoon]

dude ill be real you started goin over all the functions of this thing and all the keys and disassembly n shit and i started crying, i feel like im looking at like. a biblically accurate angel, this thing is insane.

[@splodeybaloney]

So excited to see this coming together. I had an R3 and managed to sell it in order to fund an R4. I have a set of Zeal Clickiez waiting to go in, as well as a set from the SA Hyper 7 group buy as mentioned. Easily a four-figure board but it has been my dream “endgame” since getting into the hobby

[@Chyrosran22]

Ooof, even I am getting jealous now xD .

[@xXHashassinXx]

4 figures for a keyboard? And I thought I was outrageous for blowing a few hundred.

[@christian_swjy]

This keyboard looks like it can launch rockets

[@TheZorch]

Based on the keys, this is definitely a keyboard for software development.

[@shorts-xb1op]

Hey Thomas, been watching your videos since I was in high school 8 years ago and as an American I always got a kick out of your imperial unit conversions. Nowadays I’m proud to say that I’m a career botanist and can now understand both your metric and imperial measurements! Happy 10 years of keyboards mate, cheers 🍻

[@Chyrosran22]

Cheers mate :D .

[@qdaniele97]

All that space and the keycap set only includes function keys up to F12? If they don't include keycaps for F13-F24 here, where then?

[@LarsV62]

Also, where are the international keycaps? I guess it's in another one of those sections in the software shown for customisation, but I hope they are also buyable when ordering one of these.

[@ticler]

The positioning of the function keys also a deal breaker for me.

[@Aves_1]

You can just rebind and move the keycaps ​@@ticler

[@dasc0yne]

I've been on a break from the hobby for two years now. It took this thumbnail to drag me back in. When I heard "VIA" that closed the deal. I just have to look for my SA Space Cadets. They've been waiting for this keyboard!

[@43615]

worthy compensation for all the toy boards shown lately

[@APS_Inc]

I've no idea what you would even need a keyboard of this size for in non industrial applications, but it's ridiculous and I'm glad someone was nuts enough to make it. (we use painfully large and old keyboards at my work and while I don't like them that's mostly a layout issue and not a size problem)

[@deidyomega]

Lots of jobs use large amounts of modifier keys, video editors being an obvious example. Also Streamers often will buy streamdecks. This could be great for them. Also programmers often will do meta programming, and assign those actions to alt keys

[@robr640]

Aircraft Carrier??? I'd call this a Mothership! 🤣Awesome review as always man!

[@MarcCastellsBallesta]

I was thinking of a nuclear power plant control panel.

[@ArturdeSousaRocha]

Battlestar Clickittyclattica

[@tanall5959]

This is the Dreadnought. Everything before it is thusly a pre-Dreadnought.

[@bitmau5]

This solves all my Star Citizen Keybind issues. 11/10

[@dxg999]

@19:10. Lemmy would have loved this keyboard. If not for the typing, for the bludgeoning...

[@TheDarthBuddha]

I love it, A Keyboard approved for Nuclear Reactors.

[@Mukinrestak]

I'd get banned from youtube if I described the degree to which I love this keyboard. Let's just say it ain't family friendly.

[@DieserMany]

I don't really know why I as a 60% and Numpad enjoyer Clicked on this Video but it is a very cool Board for sure! With the Typing demo at the end I really wonder what this Board would sound like with a deeper maybe even Long Pole Switch as the hollowness doesn't seem that crazy for the size of this Monster.

[@DavidStruveDesigns]

That is the most spectacular and gorgeous looking keyboard I have EVER seen!! Macro keys for literal DAYS upon DAYS!!

[@brooksrownd2275]

The time when I could purchase such a beast has long passed, sadly. I held out for the Boston which never got off the ground until it was too late for me.

[@reptilespantoso]

What happened? You got married?

[@brooksrownd2275]

@@reptilespantoso bought about a dozen keyboards and a couple dozen keycap sets and a mountain of artisans - had to cut back a lot ;)

[@larr3073]

This is the type of thing I wanted for FFXI, when I still played. running 3 characters at once with all the macros and commands, addon commands, targeting, etc. This would have been amazing.

[@impointr]

I feel like you might be interested in the PlaketXL kit. It's a custom kit, but it's an interesting spin on the battleship terminal keyboard in a compact form!

[@Chyrosran22]

Haha that's actually really interesting! There was also a tiny version of the hyper7 built at some point, the Hyper40. I missed out on that one but that would've been really cool :D .

[@irasponsibly]

I just want a keyboard that's a *bit* bigger, not that big! Give me an extra F row on top and a numpad with A-F, 128key. Why are enthusiast boards only tiny or gigantic!

[@Chyrosran22]

Battleship and battlecruiser keyboards also exist! They seem more like what you're after.

[@MrAdamw117]

Google the Boston keyboard kit

[@DavidWonn]

The IBM 122-key versions used on mid-frame and mainframe terminals is almost what you want (F13 is above F1, F24 is above F12, etc.) The numeric keypad isn't quite the way you want it, but it is set up rather handy for data entry with an undocumented, unlabeled character advancement key where Num Lock is on conventional keyboards.

[@DennisLeeyeet]

How do you plan to lay out the A-F keys?

[@mvl71]

Three or four of those will get you started with basic functionality on Elite Dangerous.

[@NatalieT505]

In its house at R'lyeh, dead Cthulhu waits dreaming. And when it needs to type something, it uses this board. I'm absurdly late - but wonderful review worthy of this beast of a board, thanks !

[@anasevi9456]

at least they give us the options of box whites and jades, with a big old battleship something sharp feeling and pingy seems nice to me.

[@Alexus00712]

This keyboard looks amazing, also first time I see a video from your channel, I absolutely love your deep voice! :3

[@Chyrosran22]

cheers :)

[@Sortsylic]

Not sure why, but I see every Hyper7 video as a hallmark of the channel🔥

[@budthecyborg4575]

This is cool but I can't get past the nagging feeling it's not complete without buckling springs.

[@meh.7539]

"Howdy ya'll by like, totally dude stones throws" I know exactly how big that keyboard is...

[@transformerstuff7029]

I was like oooh looks fancy, than I hear the intro and I just had to subscribe.

[@hellNo116]

i will say something insane. based on the position that the two halves of my split keyboard are positioned if that keyboard had 5 columns in the clusters left and right i could simply use the ends as a splits keyboards and all the middle parts as shortcuts.

[@udirt]

love this, in mid-90s i did an internship where i'd file planning details typing into a mainframe, and you'd have a custom keyboard, which function keys mapped to the application you saw. it was super relaxing to enter stuff like this. at least when you did it off-hours, it could more laggy the more people used it. but i want some silly thing like that, likely to be overwhelmed at the end and not using all the extras ;-)

[@scotama]

Huge keyboard review and D2 talk. Thank you

[@PropaneWP]

Can somebody explain to me the practicality of having the numpad on the right side of the keyboard, instead of the left? Unless you're left-handed of course...

[@CathrineMacNiel]

You have the numpad on the right as you have cursor and navigation keys on the right as well. While you use most of your right hand for data entry, your thumb is in control of moving around as it hovers over the cursor keys. In gaming its great for lefties to have it there since WASD sucks as a lefty (the hands are too close for comfort) and you have the whole numpad for commands.

[@PropaneWP]

@@CathrineMacNiel As far as I can see, it would be better for right handed people to have the entire numpad as well as navigational keys, ins, home, del - all of that - on the left side. This would allow me to perform data entry and navigation just as easily, with the added plus of letting my right hand perform actions with the mouse simultaneously. I suspect having numpad, etc. on the right side of the keyboard is a vestigial design from the time where people only used a keyboard and not a mouse. If we disregard the mouse, then the keyboard design starts to make sense. But for current day users, it's only convenient for the relatively tiny minority that still only use a keyboard for navigation (although, I don't think they'd suffer from a more sensible redesign either).

[@outtheredude]

To cover the sheet metal gaps in the sides, how about solid wood housings on either side, just to make it extra classy (and even more heavy and massive)?

[@nottheonlyjustin]

I think I love this thing so much, I do like my small board for gaming and playing D&D since it gives me more of a desktop to work with but I do really like this

[@cosmicraysshotsintothelight]

You can drop a small stiff (maybe 2-3mm) wire with a rounded nose on it that has been formed into a small hook and use that to pull up on the PCB at a nearby switch hole as you depress the new installation switch into place. Using the hook only to hold back against the down pressure you apply when inserting the switch. Also, it sounds like small bare PCB segments or plastic rib like segments could (should) be made to sit under the PCB either permanently or during change-outs that set the ride height and angle of the PCB. Strange that it has no 'underpinnings'.

[@maxmouse3]

That's a PROPER keyboard. A true tribute to mechanical keyboards!

[@wau-l9]

I don't think the versions of the board with 1U top rows are "older". the PBT key set actually comes with 1U keys you can put there, and you can absolutely stick two switches and caps in instead of a switch and stabilizer. bitshifter's keycap set actually makes use of this and the top row 2U keys are POS-mount. also of note is that the production PBT set comes with purple, red and white accent legends in addition to the blue ones you got

[@DocHogan]

+100 for the deadpan Motörhead delivery. S-tier snark

[@mattstroker3742]

You have a good voice for this sort of stuff

[@NickiRusin]

wow that is gorgeous, although I'm not sure I could get all the functionality out of it. also HANDLE???

[@g.g.harrison5949]

Do they have the key option that has the “click” sound and feel? I have that now on my current keyboard, I hate the smooth soft sounding ones!!

[@qwertyuiop32935]

Excellent review man. Great intro LOL

[@occamydg]

I've have no use personally for this type of keyboard, but I love that it exists!

[@kingklump]

I love this thing!!! Is there a US layout model?

[@tparadox88]

Add a trackpoint and put the function keys back over the number row and this would probably fit perfectly into my workflow.

[@jacekruzyczka3058]

Does it mean that the MX New Nixie switches are not tactile, but rather as wobbly as MX Black ones?

[@brookerobertson2951]

I'm going to buy one and only use it for scrolling.

[@alexshapsenzon254]

so does thing comes put together or does it need to be built? I need a keyboard like this, but in no mood to build one? website is confusing.

[@Indrid__Cold]

I miss oversize shift and enter keys😢

[@cosmicraysshotsintothelight]

Your opening line was great!

[@greenblack6552]

lol, I love the "you win some you lose some, it's all the same to me" comment at 19:05

[@87engr]

This is a massive case. I am really curious about how Zeal Clickiez or other modern clicky switches would sound inside it.

[@graysonpeddie]

That's very cool to have with all the extra keys, but if I really want that, I'd probably want those extra keys as a separate device. I do have a numeric keypad attached to the pole arm which I can use with Blender. This frees up space for me to use my mouse on a 23" wide custom keyboard tray.

[@PlantainSupernova]

Typing Demo XL with some box or clickiez down the line possibly?

[@voidmind]

Is it sturdy enough to resist Cobra commander hitting the keypad with his fist in frustration?

[@anticat900]

Should have been a ISO keyboard, considering it size there should be space for a full sized return key???

[@ehsnils]

Are there any dust proof switches available for this keyboard?

[@docdailey]

I am puzzled because I am not a keyboard expert. The order says keycaps not included. So you have to buy those also?

[@Chyrosran22]

They are optional. You can choose to buy a set that fits it, or you can provide your own.

[@UK1Y2K]

They so needed this keyboard as a prop in the film Arrival so when the cephalopods got board spunking on the windows they could have used a normal keyboard

[@MtnNerd]

Maybe I've been watching Hipyo too much but I wanted to see you mod it so the PCB doesn't move. My first thought is to get a large silicone mat and cut it to size.

[@Chyrosran22]

Yeah it's possible to do something like that. More likely, a block of foam.

[@jayatday9527]

Couldn't wait for this, very excited to watch :)

[@christiansmyth1466]

19:07 THE ACE OF SPADES! THE ACE OF SPADES!!

[@freedomgovernment]

I personally could use that for OBS because I have 18 cameras and I use all keyboard shortcuts, no StreamDeck, so that is right up my alley!

[@RomanKutsovolOriginal]

No full size enter, no arrows separation, no pg up down home end separation, all keys same size, this shit is an ergonomic nightmare to use.

[@ash36230]

I can't say I would ever need the extra keys but that is a damn good looking keyboard

[@Glitch_860]

You should try Kailh box white for a real F u clicky sound. The whites are louder than the jades imo.

[@123anonymous456]

Can we have another typing demonstration where you properly make use of all keys with both hands and feet simultaneously? Thanks in advance! I wonder whether there are any ergonomic wrist rests on the market that are wide enough, though …

[@SiisKolkytEuroo]

The only thing I would have an issue with is the stuff directly to the left of the usual letter keys. If that section were normal then this would be perfect

[@fabriglas]

Whats a good replacement for a logitech k850?

[@FlamingPhoenix40]

Wait, so the pcb is only held in place by the switches attaching to the hotswap sockets? Or is it held in place by the case some more when it's fully assembled? Can't imagine the first part bc the pcb would inevitably vibrate loose over time I'd imagine. I'm probably missing something here haha

[@Chyrosran22]

No, it is exactly as you describe. Of course, with so many switches, it is actually held in place pretty well. But it's best to replace them one at a time.

[@FlamingPhoenix40]

@@Chyrosran22 Yeah okay that's a fair point. Didn't think of that haha. It just feels... wrong to me I guess haha. I'm never buying this thing anyway hahaha, even though I think it looks cool as all hell :)

[@Chyrosran22]

@@FlamingPhoenix40 I agree it would've been nice it they had something in place to support the PCB. I don't think it's actually necessary if you assemble it in the right order, but it might've been a nice addition.

[@oziphantom9465]

I've been looking for a keyboard that would let me a have a "hexpad" rather than a numberpad.. not sure I want it to the tune of $1000 though, do you know of any other keyboards that could be used to get a hexpad?

[@nicholasmistry4954]

missed opportunity... where is the any key?

[@fus132]

When you need to do code by 9 and fight a bear by 12.

[@nandesu]

Wow! That is truly a thing of beauty.

[@keithwhisman]

Oh wow that needs to be on my desk. I wonder how well it can handle the dust and extreme heat of the Arizona desert USA..

[@SprDrumio64]

The spacebar reduction kinda bummed me out, there's so much space for more buttons there

[@bewilderbeestie]

I really want one, but honestly I don't think I'd find a use for it. I currently have a full-size Corsair gaming keyboard which has a 3x6 macropad on the left, and I only use about seven of them (Although I do have a 5x4 gaming keypad as well, which the left-side macropad on the Hyper7 could well replace.) Plus I suspect I'd have trouble getting used to the layout, which is not just weird, but isn't ISO. But man, what a device.

[@1d10tcannotmakeusername]

If it's got NKRO I might get one some day and swap in all green switches, or something even clickier with even more actuation force

[@BrianMcKee]

I don't need the keys but it would be a REALLY AWESOME paper weight.

[@СусаннаСергеевна]

Now put Ellipse’s discrete beam springs in it.

[@TommyFenstermacher5150]

Chuck in a set of Clickiez, perhaps? The hollow, resonant case should amplify their sound well, though I'm sure it won't be anywhere near as nice as a plastic case. Maybe a bit like a KB101A vs a Gold Badge Omnikey w/ respect to the chassis's effect on switch sound.

[@Aves_1]

Ive been watching this board for a while. Really want to grab it as it seems the group buy is still open

[@UserWalterbe]

When watching this and seeing the labels of some keys I wondering what they - according to their label - are supposed to do.

[@ScoriacTears]

Wow, is that chunk bolted to the desk, hmm. . . wonder what it would sound like bolted to an oak limb that is the top of a desk in the study of a tree house.

[@bluephreakr]

It would be _cool_ if this keyboard was provided as six separate pieces rather than the two PCBs in a single shell. Some competition for the Mountain Everest Max would be nice.

[@lenix3216]

O your keyboard is waterproof? Mine is bullet proof

[@Tom.B335]

I don't get it, the main block layout is perhaps worth exploring but all the macro keys (left and top) are so out of reach that `Ctrl-KEY`, `Meta-Key`, `Alt-key`, `Ctrl-alt-key` etc are much quicker and easier to push than moving your entire palm up to the macro key and then back down. I have around 100 keybinds in vim but there's a reason vim uses the home row instead of the arrow keys for movement: It's very quickly apparent that moving your arm across the keyboard is a lot more strenuous than moving just your fingers from a comfortable starting position. The only reason I can imagine using those macro keys is the labels, but after you remember what the keys are you don't need labels anyway. The lack of an easily reachable escape key alone is a ridiculous design choice here (I have caps bound to escape)

[@AquaPeet]

Fan-f^cking-tastic looking thing, and the sound isn't bad either!! I mean, this is a HUGE case with a galaxy worth of empty space. Awesome review man! :D