CI "Rocket Wide Squash Tail" Surfboard Review Ep 122

[@dkilla01]

Not sticky on the bottom anymore, Dane is super chill, I met him at Claremont surf when he came down to Diego, one of my favorite pro surfers for sure👍🏽

[@jonkennard8272]

Noel I recon you surf so good and better on most board as a quad. Just seems it suits your surfing the best. Another great show 💥💯

[@damodaraomalley3974]

Looks like the dhd phoenix. It's been my daily work horse here in Australia for the last year. Great little board from Yoda himself highly recommend 🤙

[@kieranlane8815]

Thanks for the great review Noel. I just bought a 5'8 spine Tek based on the review and love it! Im intermediate and surf generally weak small to medium size waves in the UK, I don't get on with standard shortboards so stick to pu grovelors, I have a lost rnf retro 5'5 which is also amazing, but there's something different about the rocket wide squash than all the other boards I've tried... It's fast paddles great gets in early, feels like it has performance too but yet forgiving and most importantly it's fun and exciting! It's giving me that shortboard vibe and excitement but at my level and wave type i can actually surf and enjoy this board.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Yewww!! 🔥🙌

[@kieranlane8815]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 🙌

[@rjcplus9]

Thorough and succinct as always! You have high marks for this board and the Dominator 2.0…can you compare the two? And if you had to have only of them as a daily driver (SoCal beach breaks)…??? Thanks 🙏🏼

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Both boards are epic… that’s a tough choice for me. As a Quad the D2 is silky smooth with excellent speed and flow. I also like the D2 with a Twin + Stabilizer set up… fast n loose. The RW might have a little quicker get up n go and faster down the line especially as a Thruster. I found the RW to pivot quicker in the pocket as a Thruster compared to the D2. If I had to choose one… I say D2

[@rjcplus9]

Great feedback. Cheers

[@taradead]

0:27 smoothest sliding 3 I've ever seen.

[@sclerwage]

No traction pad or the review didn't happen ;) Thx for all the rad content, psyched to see Dane riding no traction pad or leash!

[@jonathanmilliner4121]

Have a 5'11 RW as my daily driver now. Have a 6'2, 19 1/2, 2 5/8, 33.2L Fever as my HPSB on order based on your reviews. For a step up on surf trips, would you recommend just a larger Fever to round out the RW/Fever quiver? How big would you go for H-DoH surf? Or another board that would be a nice transition from RW/Fever. (6'1, 180lbs, upper intermediate, front foot surfer). Cheers!

[@all3318]

Thanks for another great review Noel. Have Dane there is also epic. How would you compare the RW with the Black Vulture 2?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

RW offers more performance in the pocket… sharper turns, quicker pivot, and more release. The BV2 is faster down the line, and it grovels better. I will say the BV2 is easier to shred for intermediate surfers.

[@henrywalton5967]

I had my shaper make me a board very similar to this design, it's an absolute beast. In the 2-3ft range I use it as a twin + trailer and it very fast, definitely helps me take advantage of the small wave. 3 - 5ft I run reactors in a thruster setup for extra traction and pivot. Definitely the best board I've ever used in that sort of wave range, very versatile. It's still not quite a pure groveler so for the really small weak stuff it's not perfect and for the bigger days you can get away with it but you'd have a much better time on a board with added rail length and extra rocker. But like I said before, small to medium sized waves are the absolute sweet spot for this board.

[@adamwaz5615]

Dane rips, you rip, the boards rips, what more can I say. Yeeewwwww 🤙🤙🤙

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Cheers..

[@jeremybarker3408]

Hi Noel love your reviews I’ve learned so much about boards and fins watching them. I got a Moonbeam 3 years ago because of your review. I’m looking for something a bit different but still has speed and works in very average surf. I live in Christchurch New Zealand. Would the Rocket wide be a good one? Been surfing for 33 years Cheers and keep up the great work

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Yes, the RW Squash Tail is epic… I also like the BV2 by Chilli surfboards too.

[@todmarcus1954]

Aloha Noel - you are our man!.... I'm on Oahu - Lower end of Advanced - Surf nearly every day, both SS and NS..... I MUST have the Rocket Wide Squash! Which quiver has less overlap... 1) Rocket Wide >- Phantom >- Ghost? Or 2) Gremlin >- Rocket Wide >- Ghost? Thanks!!!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Gremlin-RW-Ghost

[@twinfin8867]

Luv'n the lengthy Rip'n'Tear intros before talking shop! kudos from santa cruz!

[@theugift9923]

RW Squash vs. Swallow - wave range, speed down the line, maneuverability.. etc.?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Squash Carrie’s way more speed down the line due to more surface are in the tail. The Squash tail pivots faster, offers more release, and it’s loose and responsive compared to the Swallow tail. The Swallow tail offers more hold and control. I prefer the Squash.

[@leilanikaiawelacuesta7771]

Incredible review Noel packed with tons of information! I'm actually considering this board in a round tail or even a rounded pin for the small but punchy days here in Hawaii. I definitely want pivot and am excited use it as a thruster, quad, & twin + trailer setup. I'm curious to hear your thoughts on how it would perform as a round tail..

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

I think it will go mental as a Round Tail. I would not go rounded pin… just go Round Tail

[@leilanikaiawelacuesta7771]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 YES! I was leaning towards a round tail, thanks for the encouragement. I really appreciate your input

[@NCsurfer607]

I'm torn between the fever and RW squash . Live on the east coast outer banks, which one would you recommend ?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

For 1-5’ surf I say RW Squash Tail. In 3-8’ surf I say Fever.

[@shshim88]

Thanks for the review! I’m thinking custuming RW spine-tek 5’8” and was wondering if there’s big difference between Ultralight glassing and standard one. What would you recommend?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

I like Ultra Light for my SpineTek’s. They are still light enough and stronger compared to team light.

[@hybrid20]

Great review as always. 🙏. Any dates for Bobby quad review?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

I am waiting for boards…

[@elb2018]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 good, don’t rush to review the Bobby quad because that will be your last review, you won’t be able to get off it!!! 😂😂

[@shawnweston4741]

Once again Noel great review and great top to bottom surfing. So now I'm thinking what are the pros and cons if you compare it with the NB2?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

The RWS offers smoother flow, and pivot. The NB2 still Carrie’s a little more down the line speed and faster from turn to turn. The NB2 draws more radical lines. The NB2 pivots faster and more abrupt in the lines top to bottom.

[@shawnweston4741]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks Noel.great feedback and description.

[@808surfschool6]

Love the reviews! Do you think you will do a review on the lost sabotaj model or have you ridden that board? If so what are your thoughts. Mahalo!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

No plans to do that board at this time. Sorry

[@orangshoes21]

Hey Noel, if I’m surfing 2-4 foot Malibu points, is the rocket wide swallow or rocket wide squash better? Which tail do you like more. Thanks. I’m also a back footed to neutral footed surfer

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

I like the RW Squash better… it Carrie’s way more speed especial for Malibu point breaks

[@SCBalla1]

Hey Noel! Have you considered looking at the DHD Phoenix? It seems like it might be a pretty similar option to this. Thanks for everything you do!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Yes… I ordered two Phoenix’s last December and I’m still waiting for boards.

[@alexkaralekas519]

Thanks for another epic in depth review man! About to order up a RW squash spinetek after watching this and some of your other reviews and just wondering what your thoughts on how sglass swap options on the ci site would do, particularly on the deck? I'd love to know if you think that may help in the long run w pressure dings. Cheers!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

PU/Poly boards pressure dent easily… you can go a little heavier on the glass to make it stronger but then you sacrifice flex and performance. I recommend talking to the folks at CI to help you with Glass Layup.

[@John-ed5qb]

hello Noel. How does the CI Rocket Wide compare to the Lost Puddle Jumper HP? i would like to know with the Puddle Jumper Pro, but it must be too soon :) good and fast recovery. cheers

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

PJHP grovels better 1-2’ surf compared to RW Squash. The PJ Pro seems more like the RW…, I have not tried one yet sorry

[@alexandreverdan1324]

Great review. Dane is such a nice guy!

[@gjvgc9853]

Noel, What size would you recommend for Intermediate level 5’5” 160lbs My local shop has a few of these but only in PU.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Here are some liter ranges at your weight for different skill levels. Pro/Expert 25-27L Advanced 27-29L Intermediate 30-32L If you like your boards ultra sensitive then I recommend 29-30L. The 5’8” looks solid

[@gjvgc9853]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks Noel! Great reviews ✊🏽

[@AlexR-n4u]

Hi Noel! Following your reviews now i'm waiting for my new Rocket Wide Squash and i need a piece of advice. Just a quick question. What fins do you recommend for the board? 2+1? MRs? And thruster? AMs? Thank you very much in advance! Amazing job!!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Get the AMA ( Al Merrick Twin + Trailer for smaller days. For Thruster you can go AM’s or Performers.

[@AlexR-n4u]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 I'll try both. Keep doing this job. It's really useful. Thanks a lot Noel!!

[@Smashdalipz]

Stuck between this and a NB3, my shops got both in my dims. I’m leaning towards the NB3 cause I’d probably end up using it more this winter, but the rocket wide squash just seems so fun.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

The NB3 will offer better hold in bigger surf. The RW Squash tail is fast and fun.

[@seblatapie]

Ended up getting the NB3 as an upgrade to my dumpster diver. Was hesitating with this. Has been super fun in punchier New England surf in the last two storms. Feel it may be a bit slower in the mushier smaller surf. Haven’t played around with the fins yet.

[@JasonHagedorn]

@@seblatapie did/do you own the NB2 as well? I’m still wonderinf how the 3 compares to its predecessor.

[@seblatapie]

@@JasonHagedorn No I didn't. Was quite intrigued by the NB2, especially by the very positive review from this channel back in 2018. Didn't really feel a need to get something new then. If it was available in my shop when I was shopping, I may have gone for it.

[@bernatANDORRA]

@@seblatapie Hi Sebastien. Could you please share your thoughts on NB3 vs Dumpster diver for punchy beach breaks? Following the CI website the dumpster has medium to agressive entry/exit rocker and the NB3 has relaxed to medium. Do you agree with this? Did you feel that rocker difference in punchy surf? Thanks mate!!

[@alang253]

Dane is only 5'11"???? he looks so huge surfing (though super elegant and smooth). Man I'm 5'11" also I must look like a clown out there

[@mentalsurfaustralia]

look pretty good bro 👌 thanks for the extra information I was looking for now easy to me to sale this board in my work place Surfculture bondi Rd

[@r33feater]

Hey Noel could you please make a review on the Pyzel Highline, Lost Round Nose fish 1996, or the Pyzel Mini Ghost?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

RNF 96, and Mini Ghost reviews are coming soon

[@orangshoes21]

Is this your favorite board for true pool? What are some other compatible boards to the squash tail rocket wide you like?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Rocket Wide and Uber Driver

[@orangshoes21]

Hey Noel I’m trying to decide between the two happy in spinetek and the driver 2.0 in light speed. Which one do you like more as an all arounder? Is the driver 2.0 more forgiving and easier to ride? Thanks

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

I like the Driver 2.0 better

[@orangshoes21]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks so much! Also, how does the light speed compare to spinetek? Are they pretty much the same or does light speed feel more like PU?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@orangshoes21 Spinetek might be a little stiffer so it offers more pop. Both are epic and roughly the same durability

[@orangshoes21]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 great thanks. Off the top of your head, I’m an advanced intermediate surfer, surfing Oxnard beach breaks and Rincon in the winter. I like to surf pretty high performance. What’s the easiest high performance board to ride and if you were me, what one performance board would you ride?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@orangshoes21 Fever or Driver 2.0

[@kaipo8489]

Had one and sold it felt slow with every fin setup going back to nb2

[@John-ed5qb]

In terms of buoyancy, is there a significant difference between spine tek and PU? Or is the difference just the one indicated in the video, clean waves or choppy?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

I say most EPS Epoxy boards are more topical… and they float like 0.5L more compared to a PU. For example if your PU/Poly is 28L then you can get the same exact board in EPS/Epoxy at 28L and it floats like 28.5L. EPS is also a bit durable.

[@nicolekelln3031]

Do you prefer the RW Squash or the NB2 in 2-5 ft beach breaks?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

RW Squash

[@nicolekelln3031]

Thx Noel, appreciate your responsiveness and help. If I recall correctly, you liked the NB2 better than the original Rocket Wide. The shift to the squash tail improved the board that significantly?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@nicolekelln3031 The RW Squash Carrie’s more speed compared to RW Swallow. I think most surfers will like the RW Squash compared to NB2 as the NB2 is a bit more radical and it pivots faster compared to RW Squash or Swallow. I personally like the NB2 best out of the 3 models due to its pivot and radical speed. It’s boarder line out of control and I like that for my own surfing….. it pushes me to be more progressive in my own surfing. However the RW Squash Carrie’s similar speed, but it offers better flow and a bit more hold and control on rail in overhead surf compared to the NB2.

[@stuartcurrington3384]

Hey Noel do you think this board is similar to the JS Nitro you reviewed (E24), loved this board

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Not really… the RW Squash tail out performs the Nitro in every category except for glide while paddling. The Nitro has a hybrid nose and maybe a little less entry rocker so it might be a tad faster in smaller waves. The RW will shred smaller waves with lines like a HPSB.

[@orangshoes21]

Hey Noel, I’m 6”0 183 pounds, trying to decide between the 6”0 spinetek two happy at 29.3 liters or the 6”1 30.6 spinetek. Does the spinetek float close to about a liter more? I’m an advanced intermediate surfer. Which would you recommend for literage? I just don’t want the board to feel too boaty and stiff

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Roughly 0.5 liter more float for Spinetek. At 183 pounds I say 6’1” 30.6L. I have Pro/Expert level surfers at 29-31L for your weight.

[@michaelshort5115]

Which is the better board, rocket wide squash or pod mod in spine tech.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

PM is shorter and more of a Groveler.

[@michaelshort5115]

Thanks Noel, would you go up 1 litre for the RW or stay the same as my performance board, phantom . I will be using it as a summer weaker wave board. I am thinking that the same litres as my phantom 28.6 should feel like 1 to 2 more litres in paddle performance because of the shape is this correct. I want the paddle performance for catching weaker waves but don't want to over volume it.... Thanks

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@michaelshort5115 I recommend staying similar volume as your Phantom so you can maneuver the RW Squash Tail faster from rail to rail. Maybe get the RW in Spinetek for the extra pop in turns and EPS seems to float a little better too

[@unSTEVOED]

Dane is such a Legend

[@malcolmd3670]

Hi Noel Great review long time follower. Summer waves in East coast Oz would you go for a Rocket Wide squash tail or Pyzel Gremlin?🤙

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

For weak 1-3’ surf I say Gremlin. For 1-3’ waves with some push I say RW Squash

[@malcolmd3670]

Thanks Noel your a champion🤙

[@Blazerelf]

Hey Noel, What board would you recommend for a early intermediate (weekend warrior) as a daily driver?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Ultra Joe, Hypto Krypto, or Chilli Black Vulture 2. My first choice out of these 3 boards is the Chilli BV2

[@Blazerelf]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks so much

[@SnackyChan42k]

Would you recommend riding it as a twin?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@SnackyChan42k Tein + Trailer… yes. Chest high waves and smaller is fun with 2+1 fin set up

[@pbaeumler]

What 2+1 (FCS) suits the RW Squash best? Did you try different 2+1s? I love the board. So far surfed it with Thruster AM, Performer and the MF and all went good. But I imagine it'd be super fun with 2+1 as well. Just not sure which template is the best choice? Or which 2+1s to concider?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Go with the MR’s

[@pbaeumler]

What about the new MF Twins (2+1)? Every tried them? I wonder if it's better to get the MRs or the MFs?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@pbaeumler I have not tried them… I’m sure they are good

[@fabriziogabrielli7064]

Hi Noel.. Which between the rocket Wide squash an nd the necked bird 3 is fastest in the dead sections?thanks

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

RW Squash Carrie’s more speed down the line and from turn to turn compared to NB3.

[@fabriziogabrielli7064]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 thank you 🤙

[@nicolekelln3031]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 How about vs the NB2?

[@orangshoes21]

Hey Noel, I’m 178 pounds and an andvances intermediate surfer and looking at either getting the 5”11 two happy in spinetek at 28 liters or 6”0 at 29.5. How much more does the spinetek float compared to pu? Mostly will be surfing it in 2-5 foot surf. What’s your favorite all around shortboard for most waves in 2-6 foot surf? Is there something better than the two happy that you like? Thanks

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

EPS floats like 0.5L more. So 29L eps floats more like 29.5L. I like the RW Squash tail, Inferno 72, NB3, Dominator 2 best for the wave sizes you mentioned.

[@Machete2030]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 Noel, hi! Im a bit undecided, are the RW and the Dominator gonna have more paddle power when comparing them to the Inferno 72 (because of their larger volume) for catching mushy not so good waves? Is the Inferno gonna have a bit more hold in larger waves? Thank you!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@Machete2030 The RW and D2 paddle better and carry more speed. The I72 offers sharper turns in the pocket. All 3 boards fit the description of small wave performance boards. The I72 will struggle a bit in 1-2’ mushy waves compared to the other two boards.

[@Machete2030]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 Great, thanks Noel!

[@gyoon23]

Is the Rocket Wide squash as sensitive to foot positioning as the swallow tail version was?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Maybe a little more forgiving

[@JasonHagedorn]

Hey Noel :) I saw in the comments that the Mini Ghost review is dropping soon. Can't wait for it. Do you have a rough timeline for when the NB3 review is going to come out?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

We are finishing up the NB3 review now. Roughly 2-4 weeks before we drop that review

[@JasonHagedorn]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 awesome thanks!

[@marieaugier8128]

How is this compared to the Uber driver ? Looking for a step down shortboard

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

The RW ST seems to have a little less rocker overall and wider tail block so it carries more speed down the line.

[@blurr.836]

Hey man, would this board be good for 2-6ft waves?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

I like it best in 2-5’ surf. If you surf more off your front foot then I highly recommend the RW Swallow tail as it offers a bit more hold compared to the Squash tail. The Squash tail is faster down the line and better in 1-4’ surf.

[@colbycastner7031]

Does the RW squash compare to the Uber driver xl? Would be surfing east coast beach break

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

RWST Carrie’s more down the line speed and it’s easier to shred

[@marieaugier8128]

Is it comparable to the D2 ?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

RW ST might carry a little more speed down the line but the D2 is silky smooth rail to rail.

[@Al-Yard]

Hey Noel - wondering how you feel the rocket wide squash compares to the sampler (probably my all-time favorite board)? Great review as always. Cool seeing Dane on here.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Sampler might be a little faster down the line but the RW offers more performance in the pocket.

[@girat08]

My fave wave @ 7:27 , sorry Noal, its dane’s… but u rip as well!

[@nickymarshall4890]

Looking to get a small wave all rounder soon. Waiting on the review of the Pyzel Highline. Any idea when you might release that?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Not sure that board is coming…, I got the new Mini Ghost coming next week and I think will fit the description you’re looking for better compared to the Highline. The Highline has more rocker compared to the Phantom, Shadow, and Ghost…. So not much of a small wave board.

[@lucaslvu]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 damn was gonna order pyzelian 2 for hawaii but may wait on that mini ghost review. Is thet months out or a week out.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@lucaslvu We will start shooting on it in a week or so

[@nickymarshall4890]

Hey again Noel. I find info online on flat vs domes deck very confusing. Some say flat deck turns easier. Others say domed deck goes rail to rail easier but wants to keep a straight line. I would have thougj a flat deck would have a thicker rail and wood therefore be harder to turn. Can you explain the difference in terms of how they feel on the wave, specifically doing tight turns and lose vs stiff??

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@nickymarshall4890 Flat decks can have fuller rails and seem to offer a bit more feel on the flex of the board. Bottom contours really help the board roll over on rail with either type of rail from my experience. Tapered rails and domed decks can be easier to bury the rail through big carves but once again the bottom contours play a significant roll on rail to rail engagement.

[@עופרשזר]

Hi Noel I ordered a custom medina in futurs. Dimensions 5.8 .24 liters and I want to buy two pairs of medium size fins. One pair that will fit low waves (1-3) feet. And a second pair for higher waves 3-6. For the small waves I thought of the am1 blackstix 3.0. And for the big days I have no idea. So i would love suggestions for two pairs of fins. thanks

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

The AM Blackstix are epic for smaller waves. For bigger waves go with AM honeycomb

[@עופרשזר]

Thanks a lot

[@ccozzarelli]

Hello Noel ! Hope you are doing great. I was wondering what would you say makes the difference between the phantom and the rocket wide squash that makes a phantom a dd and not a small wave performance board ? Thanks ! Is it the wave range ?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

The RW might have a little less overhaul rocker so it faster in smaller waves. The RW is also a bit shorter making it a little more maneuverable in small waves. The RW Squash also has a wider tail block so it Carrie’s more speed down the line. The Phantom being a little longer offers more rail line and stability that I like better for 3-7’ surf. I would use the RW Squash tail as my Small Wave Performance board in 1-4’ surf. Then use a Phantom as a DD in 3-7’ surf.

[@facundosaid5490]

Roquet wide squash or mini ghost squash?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Tough one… both are sick. If you like a thinner more refined rail then go RW Squash. If you like a little fuller rail then I say MG Squash. I prefer the MG Squash.

[@facundosaid5490]

​@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thank you so much for your advice Noel. Every time I have ask for one, it worked out as you said. Legend!!!

[@mattholliday7079]

Please review the Smith shapes maytrix model

[@cornholio69]

great review, I got the swallow tail riding the AM twin with trailer, goes great. Also just got a Spinetek Neckbeard 3, holy sheet I love that thing! 😀

[@slidemore5768]

Get the trailer off the AM twin ;)

[@cornholio69]

@@slidemore5768 ok mate I'll give it a go

[@thomasvinsen1410]

How would you compare the neckbeard to the rocket wide? If you had to choose one which did you like more. Thanks

[@cornholio69]

@@thomasvinsen1410 Hey mate, for me I think the Rocket Wide is better for when it's a bit weak and mushy/choppy. If it's bit cleaner I'll take out the Neckbeard 3. If I had to choose I guess it would be the Rocket Wide, Sydney summer waves aren't the best 8^) Hard choice tho 😅

[@thomasvinsen1410]

@@cornholio69 thanks man. Appreciate the response 😊. I’m getting the rocket wide. Might have to what you’ve done and eventually get both

[@tristan8726]

Rocket wide or seaside?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Two different boards drawing different lines. The RW will surf smaller waves like a HPSB… but it Carrie’s more effortless speed compared to a typical HPSB. Seaside is a performance fish… fast and fun but limited in ways that a HPSB or RW can surf top to bottom. It’s really about the lines you want to draw….

[@tristan8726]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks for the reply, im looking for a groveller for our point break, waves vary from waist to head high/ slightly overhead. Waves has a steep barrelling take off then eases out to a fatter chunkier wave down the point, I am more of a relaxed surfer (roundhouses, down carves) so I was thinking seaside but then I don't know if the seaside would handle when the swell does pick up to those 4-5ft days at the point. Where it looks like the RW might handle a bit better?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@tristan8726 Go Seaside

[@waikikiwilly13]

ripping as usual. do you think an older guy would suffer too much performance on this board if he had to oversize it?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

It all depends how much you over size the board. If you go up 1L compared to your usual volume then you won’t suffer much. If you go up 2-4L then yes you will feel the extra foam. Either way… I say run it with Twin + Trailer set up and it will be more responsive

[@waikikiwilly13]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks! Picked one up right at my grovel dimensions and I’m extremely chuffed. Used it as a quad w/ a raked fin up front, upright tears like you suggested. Goes unreal!

[@kylewattssurfing3266]

✌ 😎 ✌

[@izandevainmyheart1129]

Ugh! These shapers keep making me want to spend money! You can tell that tail wants to lift. Punter for sure.

[@chrisathan4293]

tell me about it ! thumb tail or swallow for a better punter ?

[@jodyblackwell9012]

love your videos i been surfing since 1960 im 71 years old and would like you to check out and give a review on Plastic Fantastic surfboards