Lost "Pisces" Surfboard Review Ep 154

[@WoolyTV]

Thanks for having me 🤙

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

The pleasure is ours

[@brendansharp1]

Hey Noel greetings from the UK. Really great to see surfers of different heights & weights all in one vid- helps with considerations when sizing a board model against build & local surf conditions. nice one!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@brendansharp1 Glad this episode helped you

[@TheGreatSouthernDrummer]

Your surfboard design IQ is outstanding; I really appreciate how you are able to articulate in detail the key attributes. Also, your surfing technical application is on point. Great work!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@TheGreatSouthernDrummer Thanks for the kind words. Stoked you found our Show

[@TheGreatSouthernDrummer]

@ thank you!

[@SlickWillie]

your spot on with this board - have had it for 4 months - like many of you I was waiting for the review to drop and even asked noel when it would drop lol - I caved in and bought it not knowing how it would ride as I never rode a 96..now its the only board I have been riding as Ihaven't taken any other board out - it works in everything! - I'm 195 and got the 34-litre black sheep from the nice folks up at catalyst in San Clemente - love this board. never had the 96 so I cant compare - been riding this board out here in so cal and its been super fun especially with the latest swell we received. I've run it both with a tri fin, and 2+1 - didn't mess with quads - and the 2+1 is the way to go. I've gone thru many boards and noels advice is spot on - just get it!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@SlickWillie Thanks for posting.. it will help many

[@DadKooks]

Stoked you guys finally reviewed this I've been eyeing it off for a few months now!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Epic sled… get one ASAP.

[@jaredcooper7670]

Great Review Noel! Can’t wait to see how it compares to the JS Subxero. Thanks for all the work🤘🏾

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Cheers

[@madthevillain]

When the Aussie bloke said how big his Pisces was I was not expecting him to rip that hard haha party on!

[@RBNK157]

I have the RNF 96 - i can honestly say it is amazing board! I have it in PU it does everything for me! 2-6 ft easy handles everything. Highly recommended!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@RBNK157 Agreed

[@papamarban2185]

BUYER BEWARE....! I bought a Lost Driver 3.0 in Lightspeed from Catalyst Surf Online. Says it was made in Vietnam. Not a big deal except there are no double-concaves in the board and no vee out the tail. It's basically a flat board in the lower third of the board with only a single concave. These boards are getting mass produced with no quality control. Could you do a show on how these boards are made? You say you have a stock Pisces, but it appears as if it's been signed by Biolos. I would assume he gave it his stamp of approval. All the rest of Lost surfboards on the market seem machine produced and differ greatly from their intended design. Basically, I have a brand-new defective Driver3.0. No way to contact Lost Surfboards, either. Go figure.

[@DavidE-dm5un]

Had the same issue with a FireWire I recently bought. Called the surf shop to get the number from the local board rep. Board rep got me a new replacement. I would try that route if you don’t have luck with Lost directly

[@benkelley9207]

There isn't supposed to be vee out the tail of the Driver. That's one of the major differences between it and the Sub Driver (which does have vee out the tail).

[@papamarban2185]

@@benkelley9207 Vee or no vee, the double concave in this tail is flat, non-existent. I felt the concaves on my light speed and the PU driver 3.0 and each board is completely different. Look at all the stock Lost boards in the shop. All machine made and all potentially defective.

[@MaxWestreich]

Same deal. My pisces is glassed heavy as fuck. I have a pu rnf 5'8 thats my all time favorite. Rode it from 1-6ft. Cant get off it, figured the pisces would go just as good if not better, as everyone says it does. So I got a pu 5'8 pisces, it's .6L less than my rnf, and it feels significantly heavier. Cant whip it around like I can the rnf. At first I thought it would take some getting used too, but while riding it in glassy 3-5ft surf, I was wishing I was on the rnf. Felt sluggish and shitty. I'm over it. Selling because it's a frickin lemon. Biolos- You are botching some of these boards. My advice to you- see the board in person before you buy it- feel it out.

[@NCsurfer607]

That sucks , I’m glad I have an surf shop that’s 20 mins away that’s an lost dealer I can order from rather than ordering online

[@caioalbuquerquepinheiro7667]

Awesome review, next board in my quiver. Really would like to see a review on the California Twin Pin. Never seen one the KZbin 🤙🏼👊🏼

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Cheers!!! The CA Twin Pin needs a wave with a little more power. I tried one and it felt good but the pin tail really tightened it up a bit.

[@enricoforza7]

hi Noel, great review! How do compare the Pisces with the Lost MR twin fin? Which one holds more waves size for you? Thanks

[@jamescollingham9172]

I had the same the question. I ride a Cali twin lost /mr

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Both boards are epic. The Pisces is way wave range. It also offers more performance in the pocket and more versatile

[@ianwilson4003]

Hey Noel, another awesome review! I'm interested in the black sheep construction but a little wary about it since I frequently go on surf trips down to Salina Cruz. With the black top, can the board handle that kind of heat/sun exposure? I imagine all the wax would melt instantly. Thanks for all the years of great reviews.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@ianwilson4003 The Black boards get hot quick. You gotta keep the board out of direct sunlight and you don’t want to keep it in a hot board bag either. It’s fine when your surfing and keep it in the shade when your not surfing if your at the beach. I treat all my boards that way

[@ernestoescudero1524]

Mr. Salas thank you very much for your advice , always appreciate you precise explanation and technical knowledge. You rip too!!!! Can you please review the new FireWire Revo please!!!! Thank again

[@Adu00909]

Looks like a great board ! Can’t wait to see the s boss review and how it compares to RNF 96 and pisces

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@Adu00909 No comparison with those 3 boards. The 96 and Pisces are Fish outlines. The SBoss is not a Fish

[@DJ991GT3T]

Thanks Noel, got a driver 2.0 on your rec and love it. Im 6'5 195, riding driver 6'4 (33.5 liters light speed). Looking for a fun fishy travel board for chest to head and a half. Pisces? Rnf 96? And since its for travel and bigger waves, what do you think about volume? Thanks you!

[@DJ991GT3T]

Also is blacksheep oknfor a travel board or stick to pu?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@DJ991GT3T Go with the Pisces roughly 34-35L. If it’s for bigger waves the go PU

[@DJ991GT3T]

Appreciate the response!

[@surfnOB]

Noel, subbed for many years. Thank U. How does it stack against Feb’s Fish. Long time OB surfer, need something for certain days and trips.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@surfnOB Feb’s fish has classic lines to it…. I think it’s more for carving. The Pisces outline offers way more performance in the pocket and way more versatile

[@jimpachal1522]

I had my heart set on a Pyzel White Tiger for a groveller, but may have been swayed by this review. Which would you rate as the better groveller for head high and below swell? Epic review as always!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@jimpachal1522 The WT might be a little faster but the Pisces out performs the WT in the pocket. The Pisces is also way more versatile with fin set up options. Changing fin set ups keeps the Pisces super fresh and exciting… especially riding it as a pure twin in smaller waves. I would go Pisces

[@reubenaiono6630]

Awesome reviews. We can’t get black sheep in Aus is the PU just as good? Or would you get the RNF black sheep?

[@tomhalesphotography5122]

Sweet review just wandering how it feels compared to the firewire mash up??

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@tomhalesphotography5122 The Pisces is faster and has a better wave range

[@JSLAM15]

Is the RNF96 easier (more stable) for an intermediate compared to the Pisces being more performance oriented? I have an RNF 96 and thinking about the Pisces cause I love quad fins set up. Thank you for everything!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Both boards are plenty stable if you buy the right size for your skill level. If you go to low in volume or too short both boards will be unstable.

[@jasonkelly6580]

Hi Noel, great review! I am 5,8” and 175-180lb. I rode a PU RNF 96 31L and it was worked well when I was 10lb lighter, but I’m carrying extra muscle and with winter wetsuit now in Ireland. Which black sheep Pisces would you recommend for me: 5,8” 32.35L or the 5,9” at 34L?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@jasonkelly6580 If you gained 10lbs and you’re wearing winter gear that adds another 10lbs then I say go 5’9” Black Sheep. For every 8-10lbs go up roughly 1L and if you drop 8-10lbs go down roughly 1L

[@bacalao9554]

Great review, thanks noel! 🎉🎉

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Thanks for watching

[@collinsender]

Hey Noel, thanks for that great review! I’m 5’9 and 145 lbs and I wanna ride this board as an daily driver from small to overhead waves. Which size do you recommend for a intermediate surfer at the atlantic ocean(EU)? So stoked on your videos!!

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@collinsender Your range is roughly 28-30L. If you wear a lot of rubber in the winter then go closer to 30L.

[@collinsender]

@ thx for your message😊

[@davem7553]

Noel, I ride a RNF 96 PU at 5'6 and love it. What size Picies should I get? Same? Thank you.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@davem7553 Yes, get same size if volume is similar

[@bryantforsythe728]

I would love to see Noel surf a board with a tad more volume just to compare, I feel like he would be flying fast!!!!

[@chrisnsum1979]

Hi Noel Great review! Ive been surfing 30yrs im in great shape id put myself in advanced category im 6.3” 185lb how would you recommend sizing this board for me? My thoughts on the stock dimensions are that i would end up riding something so short to get the width and volume i want and my knees hang of the back when i paddle and my stance feels awkwardly narrow but if i go up to say a 5.10 or 5.11 its soo wide and big it loses performance abilities. This is something i go through mentally looking at dims on lots of boards in this category. Thanks

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

You need to go custom… I suggest you email the folks at Lost to help get it dialed for your height. Another option is get a performance Groveler with more rail line and a pulled in nose like the Aipa Supernova. It’s fast and absolutely shreds head high and below surf.

[@Angelino13]

Sick review Noel thank you! Would you still find room for the Machado Cado or Hydra with this board in your quiver? Or could the Pisces be ridden to grovel like those do?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@Angelino13 The Pisces can grovel good and replace both of those boards

[@vidoseaver]

I'm 6'3(188cms), 180lbs (81kgs), intermediate with aspirations of being advanced, and I live in el Salvador. I have a custom pu Pisces in 5'9 x 20.88 x 2.42 32.9 liters. Its a great board but in my custom dims I don't know i'd call it groveller. These custom slimmed-down dimensions make it more of a waist-to-head and half-board. It's got very nicely refined rails and gets into waves great, better than a 6'8 mid-length I have. In small waves I run will run Noels HP twins, I've also tried his keels in but I don't think they go so well with the pulled in tail. Not really sure why. When it gets bigger, I go to the pivot plus trailer. I think asa is right I could use a smaller trailer but I don't have one, it does pivot great but I think a large portion of that is the significant kick in the last 4 inches of the board and a fair amount of v. Finally, I'd agree with what everyone else said about carrying speed in the flats. This is very true. it skates across the flats great.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Great post… thanks for sharing

[@vidoseaver]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 just trying to give back, I've relied heavily on your reviews in the past and different peoples contexts have always helped me.

[@willbuchanan994]

Love the 96 thinking about adding boxes and turning it into a quad what do you think? New board + tax isn’t in the budget at the moment - thanks for the videos - Will

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@willbuchanan994 Sounds good to me. Check out the Quad boxes on the pices to help you put in the Quad Rears.

[@luygurgeldoamaral6167]

Cheers Noel on another sick review. How would you compare the Pisces to the bobby quad? Which one gets the nod?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@luygurgeldoamaral6167 The Pisces gets the nod… it’s more versatile and offers more performance in the pocket.

[@reinhardmietusch8930]

Noel, how would you compare the pisces to the rusty miso? I had a 5.9 (31.5l version) miso and the nose felt like too much in turns.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@reinhardmietusch8930 The Moso needs a bit of a wave to go good. The Pisces is on another level compared to that board. Pisces is faster, Groveler better, has a better wave range, and way more versatile

[@Danielwilkinson]

Hi Noel, Killer review thanks bud. How is the paddling power and speed on this compared to your seaside?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@Danielwilkinson Seaside might be a tad better in paddling but the performance on the Pisces is on another level.

[@Danielwilkinson]

Cheers, That answer helped heaps with a dims question I had in my head. Def going to have to do this one in XTR10. Wil place an order tomorrow thanks bud.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@ Tell the guys at XTR I sent you

[@alvarov4154]

Hi Noel, how do you compare this board with the Pyzel ASTRO POP? Regards

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@alvarov4154 The AP is just a Groveler for the most part. The Pisces can do it all with more performance in the pocket. The Pisces gets on rail easier and does sharper turns with less bogging under your front foot.

[@nato02_]

Noel, did your friend Asa ride your board? ( I’m wondering because he has my height and my weight 5’10 160lb) What size of board do you recommend? Trying to order one for San Clemente area (Churchs, Uppers, t street, etc..)

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Yes, Asa rides all my boards in every review. We are the same weight but he is 1” taller compared to me.

[@reinhardmietusch8930]

Hi Noel, thanks for the review, great Work! I am 186cm and 81kgs, advanced. Surfing in very soft waves, loving my Uber driver 5.10 31.2L in the bigger days here and thinking about the pisces for the days when it is soft and less than chest high. Would you go 5.7 with 31.0L or 5.8 32.0L I am also thinking about going custom and make it narrower, because the stock dims are wide and i have Problems to turn it sharp then or what do you think?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@reinhardmietusch8930 Go custom 5’8” with the width of the 5’7” to keep the planing speed.

[@jasonkelly6580]

Black Sheep version impossible to buy in EU at present. It seems they may be able to get stock of some made in Thailand ones later in the year. How can I get one sooner??

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@jasonkelly6580 Not sure sorry… what about Lightspeed tech?

[@jasonkelly6580]

Thanks Noel, so in the end it seems the EU stock are made in Thailand and won’t be available until June. Considering black sheep constructions of either the MR Cali twin PIN or just another RNF 96. Thoughts?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@ Go Blacksheep 96

[@BayneUllrich-gy8bi]

Awesome review Noel I know you compared the two in your review but just clarifying Would you say the Pisces or RNF 96 is better as a groveler in small surf

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@BayneUllrich-gy8bi The Pisces is better in smaller waves

[@nickholder3328]

@@surfnshowreviews7777what about it made it better in smaller waves? I thought a more pronounced rocker would reduce speed?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@nickholder3328 More concave under the front foot and flatter center line rocker from the tail to the middle of the board

[@AK-ms5zk]

Hey Noel what are those rash gaurds you always run the fit looks sick more like a surf shirt 👍🏽

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@AK-ms5zk I am wearing a t shirt in size small. When I’m not surfing I wear a Large Tee. A small T is epic when surfing…. It’s perfect size when it gets wet.

[@spkay6317]

This doesn't seem to be available to the public in the Blacksheep?

[@SlickWillie]

@@spkay6317 hard to find .. it's the construction everyone wants.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@spkay6317 Keep a eye out for them and when you see one you gotta snatch it up quickly

[@NCsurfer607]

You have to find local dealer and order most likely

[@petep5003]

You keep my wallet light with always wanting a new board 😂

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@petep5003 Stoked… Pisces is legit

[@eyalpolishook6486]

hi noel.would it grovel 1-2 feet? how is it compere to the cali twin?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@ Yes.. it will shred 1’-2’ surf… especially as a Pure Twin Fin. Amazing. It’s faster compared to the Cali Twin and it’s way more versatile

[@connorm3457]

He always has a way of screwing up priorities, when it comes to justifying “buying another board”. Just ask my wife….😄🤙

[@RadimRadim-f5i]

Hi Noel, how does it compare with CI Ultra Joe?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@RadimRadim-f5i UJ might offer a little more pivot and release but the Pisces is way more versatile in wave range, fin options, and it’s faster with the right fin set up

[@trestlesrocks]

How does it compare to the FireWire Mashup?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

The Pisces has better hold and performance in head high and bigger waves. The Mashup offers more rail line so it’s better for taller surfers in smaller waves. The Pisces and RNF 96 are the best performance fish type boards on the market by a mile. The Mashup isn’t really a Fish.

[@trestlesrocks]

⁠@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks for that feedback. I’m currently riding a 5’6” Machado Cado as my daily and grabbed a 5’8” mashup with the intention of it being a complementary step up from the Cado for bigger/better days. So far it’s not playing out that way. Seems the Cado goes just as good as the mashup in similar conditions, so seeing the Mashup as unnecessary. Maybe the Pisces is better suited to what I had in mind?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@ Absolutely… get the Pisces to compliment your Cado

[@douglassolazzo4248]

How do you like it in Black Sheep? And Black Sheep vs Lost PU overall?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@douglassolazzo4248 I personally like Black Sheep better than Light Speed. For this type of board I would not get it in PU unless I surfed choppy waves or planned on surfing it in bigger waves as a travel board.

[@robysurf]

Hi Noel, how do you compare the Pisces with the Sharpeye Twin Turbo T2?! They seem pretty similar. Thanks

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@robysurf The Twin Turbo has a performance outline and it’s a bit longer compared to Pisces. The Pisces is a performance Fish that’s ridden shorter compared to TT. I would put the TT in the Small Wave Performance board category. Not much comparison in these two sleds

[@doublestrokeroll]

Can we just take a moment to commend Ian on his positive attitude towards all those people dropping in on him? (I'm presuming he didn't lay into them off camera..haha).

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

At the break Doheny where he is surfing the waves are super mushy and every wave is a party wave whether you like it or not. It’s really a beginner wave and longboards wave.

[@doublestrokeroll]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 yeah it's understandable. You can tell they're mostly beginners and aren't doing it on purpose. He's a good example for the rest of us.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@ Absolutely

[@brownhornetseventhre]

Would you say it surfs longer? Im 6ft1 105kg 30 year surfer. They have a 6ft4 at 44litres in stock but a 6week wait for the 6ft3 42litres. Had a 6ft4 bobby quad (awesome shape) but snapped it in some hollow surf and was considering a 6ft2 in Spinetech but none available n also found the Merrick pu construction to be very poor. How would you compare the two boards?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

It surfs pretty true to size… you can go longer and loosen it up a bit with different fin set ups.

[@yorodan]

Would this board land in your three board quiver, or would you choose differently at that point?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@yorodan Great Question… my 3 board quiver if I lived in So Cal. 1. Groveler Hybrid “Pices” 2. Performance Groveler “Supernova” 3. Performance Board Driver 2.0 /Rusty Deuce

[@Adu00909]

Pisces/rnf 96 vs fishbeard, which is your favorite ?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@Adu00909 Pisces!!! It’s way more versatile. So much fun with all the different fin set ups. It’s like riding 4 different boards when you switch up the different fin set ups.

[@Adu00909]

@ thx ! Maybe fishbeard perform a bit better top to bottom due to outline closer to a shortboard ?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@ Yes

[@iacopoviesi7281]

What twin+1 fin set up with Futures plugs? Can’t buy yours as I live in Oz

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@iacopoviesi7281 You can get Akika Aipa’s, Rastavitch,

[@finnf.4861]

Idk the board doesn’t look very fast despite what the reviewers claim. Don’t see much projection… can think of a dozen or more previous reviews on this channel that showcased a board with more drive. Bit of a surprise tbh

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@finnf.4861 Other boards were not in this same board category. This is a performance fish with a hybrid outline. Most other boards have been Small Wave Performance boards, HPSB, Etc….

[@Phaidrus]

Thanks for the vid, Noel! How does the Pisces compare to the MR/Mayhem California Twin? In terms of groveler-ability and performance. Thanks again.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@Phaidrus The Pisces is better at all things compared to CA Twin and it’s more versatile with more fin options. The Pisces has a better wave range for waves overhead and offers high performance turns in the pocket too. It really can do it all for a performance fish

[@Phaidrus]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks! 🙌

[@DavidOfTheSouth]

Noel Salas, ive been a fan for years. By far the best you’ve ever surfed on a board was the Medina model. Btw have you looked at the Sharpeye “cheat code”? It looks really nice and made for 1-4 foot shredding.I think the community would enjoy a review

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@DavidOfTheSouth I tried a stock 5’4” for a couple sessions and It needed more rail line. On a scale of 1-10 I would give the Cheat Code a 5. Just so so

[@michaelshort5115]

Noel, are you riding a PU or Epoxy in the video

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@michaelshort5115 Black Sheep EPS/Epoxy

[@lucasesteban701]

Dominator 2 or lost quiver killer?

[@uosocal]

This show and information is so great. This board doesn't look smooth off the bottom turn into the lip. All of the lefts Noel rode, the turns off the top looked kinda of two stagey( if that's a word ) to me. Also, the front end of the board looks too wide and has a lot of foam to whip around. This is the first time I don't agree. I have purchased several boards on Noel's recommendations and been super happy. Sorry

[@tezf6883]

Sorry to say looks dam good to me I disagree with your comment

[@uosocal]

@tezf6883 it looked good, but not as good as other boards I've seen him on.

[@stevenyao8660]

I agree on backhand it turns slower than some of Noel’s other boards (say the Deuce). But given it has wide outline and is designed for small wave, it still performs very well.

[@Smashdalipz]

Crazy so not every board looks good under someone’s feet or is magic? AND isn’t suited for every surfer? Wild man

[@familyfriendlymikey]

YES

[@CC-ys8qq]

You ride really short boards, how tall are you? 5'3" is pretty short.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

I’m 5’9”….

[@CC-ys8qq]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 why do you ride such short boards?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@ If I go longer on these types of boards the nose catches on every turn.

[@CC-ys8qq]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 wouldn't that mean the rocker and template aren't appropriate for you style of surfing if the nose catches? I found when boards started being shaped with more foam under the chest that nose pick on late steep takeoffs disappeared.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@ These shorter type boards are usually for small wave surfing and they usually have low overall rocker with the wide point in front of center with lots of foam under the chest and front foot. What makes these boards so fun is their speed, glide and maneuverability because they are shorter.

[@MrFantxo]

Any asym to test in 2025 please ????

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@MrFantxo The Lost Micks Tape Asym looks good to me. Nothing on the radar at this time. Noted though…

[@MrFantxo]

Could be an album asym although😮

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@ I spoke to Matt Parker a couple years back and he said “ I don’t see the value in your reviews.” Sorry I tried to get some Albums for review.

[@allsurf]

🤙🏼