Cinderella III is a Transformative Masterpiece

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LORENTE, Júlia Egido; “Appreciation or abomination? A study of fanfiction as literature” (2020)
McCAIN, Katherine E.; “Canon vs ‘Fanon’: Genre devices in contemporary fanfiction” (2015)
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[@doctorwholover1012]

Love how Cinderella 3 is basically a movie with the main message being "Kindness, optimism, and honesty are the building blocks of a happy fulfilling life!" "........also, a himbo doesn't hurt 😘"

[@Silver_Sonic_23]

Himbos may be strong, but they won’t hurt you.

[@bumblebeeproductions1673]

@@Silver_Sonic_23 amen

[@DEEZNUTS-yo1dx]

@@Silver_Sonic_23amen

[@bleedmagic88]

@@Silver_Sonic_23 🙏

[@Void_Creature4]

@@Silver_Sonic_23 amen

[@UchihaKat]

I like Cinderella 3 because it feels like one of the only "feminist" retellings of Cinderella that actually gets what the original story was all about and doesn't just make superficial changes to make her 'stronger.' Like, yes, there's more action in this one, but the story doesn't act like Cinderella was 'too passive' in the original, and recognizes that her kindness was its own form of strength and that honesty and love and goodness are virtues worth fighting for -physically or otherwise.

[@wandanemer2630]

Agree! Also, as a Sweet-Spot Perfectly Balanced Feminist but Kind, realistic but romantic retelling of Cinderella, there's Ever After, with Drew Barrimore. I really recomend it!

[@ma.2089]

Yeah. The OG telling of Cinderella was hella feminist and it sucks that ppl can’t see that.

[@genericname2747]

@@ma.2089 Cinderella was a feminist, and she came from an abusive household. She deserves more respect.

[@PlaystationSimmer]

I love that Cinderella mostly used her wits throughout the movie rather than being an action hero, sans the pumpkin carriage scene which was still well done

[@zelamorre1126]

@@ma.2089 The film - straight up says she's abused, Cinderella wants to go to the ball for her own happiness, not to get married, is shown having a myriad of emotions including irritation, happiness and sorrow. Finds joy in her hobbies and friends despite her situation. IS SAVED BY HE FRIENDS NOT JUST HER MAN. People - "Hur dur. Cinderella is just a story about a passive girl who is only happy when she gets a man."

[@rachelthornton4442]

Anastasia was genuinely inspiring to me as a child. I'd never seen such a complex, empathetic and genuinely hilarious female character before. It was the first redemption arc I'd seen in media and the first time I think I'd ever seen a female character be allowed to make mistakes and learn from them. Her humour is on-point, her flaws actually affect her behavior, and she is completely relatable in her clumsiness and her lack of belonging in the world. I've always wanted more media focused on her because I think she's one of the most successful redemption arcs and one of the most compelling characters in Disney canon.

[@sakurasensations4786]

One word: *Y E S.*

[@voxzez]

SAME! Younger me really related to her growing up. In a world where most cartoon characters had little to no flaws at the time I absolutely loved her

[@hermescarraro3393]

She's definitively more deserving of the title of Disney princess than other gals... Cof cof... *merida* Cof cof...

[@zachanikwano]

Felt the same about Terra from 2003 Teen Titans!

[@Devilcakes]

Oh you meant Cinderella's Anastasia. I was wondering why Anastasia, the film surrounding the Russian Princess, Anastasia, was mentioned in a Cinderella movie. I forgot their names, to be honest.

[@mhm77887]

king: "I FORBID YOU TO TAKE ANOTHER STEP DOWN THESE STAIRS" prince: ok *yeets out of a window*

[@hornetsilksong]

Himbo moment We love to see it

[@TMcKeon408]

God I love that clip.

[@janhavishigwan1347]

One of the best cinematic moments ever 😂😂

[@sendhelplmao2335]

Iconic moment

[@nicoleflores2054]

One of the best scenes of the movie

[@cidevant002]

The way that the king sees Anastasia being a living disaster and he is like "ah, just like my dear queen!" has me in tears. What a nice touching scene.

[@StarViewer68]

The dynamic between the King and Anastasia is honestly one of the best things about Cinderella III

[@wonktonk185]

If you think about it the whole Disney Cinderella series shows all the paths children of abuse can take in relation to the cycle of abuse. Cinder is an abused person that never continued the cycle of abuse. She never turned to abusing others either physically or emotionally to make herself feel better she kept her head up and got out of that situation. Anastasia is the abused person who did continue the cycle of abuse but was able to get out. She was cruel to Cinderella and took out all her frustration on her until Cinderella was no longer there as a quick fix to the anger she had against her mother. Instead she saw that her family was abusive and so was she and worked to better herself, make amends, and get out of the situation she was in. And finally Drusilla is the abused person who continued the cycle of abuse for the rest of her life. She goes from person to person (first Cinderella then Anastasia) being mean and even physically abusive. She stays by her mother's side no matter how cruel she is to her and other people. This is 100% not intentional on any of the writers parts but it's an interesting thing to see. Also how this dynamic is seen a lot in modern Cinderella adaptions like Ever After. Or at least the sisters aren't on even levels of power with one being the dominant one and the other being the submissive and usually dimwitted one like in Ella Enchanted.

[@PHSDM104]

That's actually a good analysis.

[@cainyourkids]

You know what I love about this? Even though, as you've said, this was not 100% intentional, looking back on the first Cinderella film - it's often Drizella and Tremaine who *initiate* the cruelty, and Anastasia follows second (this is clearer during the scene where the stepsisters practice with musical instruments; Drizella blames Anastasia for going off-tune and starts whacking her, if I recall correctly). A case of 'everyone's doing it, so maybe I should too' - it's not an excuse (since she doesn't develop until III), but it's very interesting how smoothly it flows!

[@hornetsilksong]

It's an interesting arc. You don't see a lot of these types of topics touched on in kids shows/movies.

[@chirubime7470]

as expected from Swan Mother Bjork

[@amarg7657]

@@PHSDM104 amazing analysis i love it

[@hercules1476]

The moment Anastasia said "I want someone who loves me for me" I was legit crying as a kid. I had being bullied for my apperance for years and had dreamed to be transformed into someone beautiful like Cinderella so someone would like me. Anastasia learning that she deserves true love too and should not conform with the selfish treatemed of her mother and a fake love, it touched me, made me realized I could do better too. I deserved better.

[@jeil5082]

i don't have anything to add but i wanted to respond so i can tell you that you have been seen. I hope you are doing well.

[@HotDogTimeMachine385]

No talk about artistry in fanfiction should be complete without pointing out Dante Alighieri's Divine Comedy is a self insert bible fanfiction that became a literary cornerstone. The main character is literally himself going on a road trip with his favorite historical poet Virgil.

[@donnie_duckling]

So true bestie!

[@wrenn1228]

We had to read this in class and I pointed it out to my teacher (in front of everyone mind you) and he had no idea what to say because he’d just finished praising it as an “literary masterpiece”. Definitely one of the best moments of my school career

[@frauleinzuckerguss1906]

Also Lancelot of the Arthurian legends being an OC made by a monk

[@donnie_duckling]

@@frauleinzuckerguss1906 WAIT, THAT'S SO COOL-!

[@frauleinzuckerguss1906]

@Will N Oh wow I only knew about Lancelot! That's so funny that some of the most known figures of legend are just some fanfic OCs lmao

[@amednunez2782]

Considering that only Anastasia, Drizella and Tremaine are the only ones who remember the original timeline that means that Anastasia can go and find the baker and avoid the mistakes she made in the original timeline and get her happy ending.

[@RecklessADHD]

That's if she had met him yet in that AU. She was still following Cinderella around at that point٫ so probably not٫ or else she'd be imagining her future with him instead of envying what Cinderella had. I think the second movie was a year into Cinderella and the Prince's marriage while the third movie was a bit earlier than that? I could be wrong tho.

[@Sumire_Extras]

@@RecklessADHD based on what I’ve seen is that the second and third movie is dependent on Anastasia’s choice. Follow the couple and we get the new timeline, decide not to gets Anastasia to meet her lover.

[@RecklessADHD]

@@Sumire_Extras Maybe 🤷‍♀️... They're both interesting takes on the story either way.

[@imanowlexterminator]

@@RecklessADHD The Baker is seen with Anastasia in the end credits of 3. So she meets him no matter what

[@RecklessADHD]

@@imanowlexterminator Oh nice! Thanks for telling me. I havent seen the movies in a while 👍

[@phbtonyou]

imo, it makes more sense to watch Cinderella > Cinderella 3, and then Cinderella 2. It helps Anastasia's story better going from 3 to 2. I'm actually glad we have 2 and 3 as movies, because of the depth it adds to the characters (not that they don't have any, just having more is good!)

[@DrawpinionDump]

Whoa, I hadn't thought of that! I like this idea, that way we don't have to erase the stories of Cinderella 2 from existence!

[@crazyunicorn16]

@@DrawpinionDump Yes! I think that the events of the second movie would happen either way. Like it's the mice telling stories, so it could happen too after the events of the third

[@nolifehn]

That's how I thought it was until I was watching the movies again, it just feels like that way is better.

[@juliagoodwin9510]

I prefer to ignore the second movie, but to each their own.

[@helixkh4836]

Thats what I was saying while seeing this. If you think about it in the main story of the second movie the scenes were is just the mice and the godmother creating the book they don't actually pin point a time frame (not including the flash back stories). So we can imagine that it takes place after the events of the third one.

[@spacecat_scribbles]

okay, who else was absolutely terrified by the pumpkin sequence in this movie? I know I was also, "the prince is a himbo" was not a take I was expecting, but it's so accurate I'm not sure why it took me so long to see

[@L16htW4rr10r]

Same. It was so scary. I think I was so afraid of it that I could never remember how did she escape. X,D

[@hiddenechoes]

He would get along with Kronk so well. I could see them cooking together.

[@nicoleflores2054]

@@hiddenechoes yeees

[@Igorcastrochucre]

I hate that fan fiction in general is seen as 'cringe' because I am curious to explore the stones the creators left unturned. Cinderella III is pretty much an AU/What if...? done right. The plot changed, but the characters haven't, so we get to explore these new scenarios and oportunites. At the end of the day it doesn't matter if it's canon or not, it just gives you newfound appreciation for the characters and the original story, like Steve Rogers still choosing to fight even though he doesn't become Captain America.

[@ahhh4117]

I suspect it has a lot to do with the source material, during my days at college english classes my mentioning I wrote and read harry potter fanfiction was met with some judgy reactions. But when I presented what was essentially a frankenstein fanfiction, I was "creative" and "outside the box" and "really interesting good job"

[@jaybonn5973]

Fanfiction can be done right but it rarely ever is because writers are more concerned with moments than a cohesive plot, where everything is there because it's related to motive or moves the atory.

[@primequartz7292]

When people say that something "feels like fanfiction," i find they usually mean that in a derogatory way. Its really nice to see a genuine exploration of fanfiction as a genre's influence on media in a positive way.

[@mavhhh]

FINALLY, Cinderella 3 is being truly acknowledged as a legendary piece of work! Not only is it just a great Disney sequel (being a hard feat to achieve in itself), but it’s also such a great stand alone story!

[@heyitslilah447]

Funny how not many people talk about this movie

[@mavhhh]

@@heyitslilah447 I think it’s definitely flown under the radar for way too many people

[@lolli_popples]

And it has the iconic line: "I forbid you from going down these stairs!" "Okay!" *jumps out window*

[@ScionStorm1]

Best part was when the prince told the King the mice were speaking to him and the king's reaction.

[@Kiterpuss]

One of the coolest subtle details about Ana's redemption arc as that, without changing her facial structure, she was drawn a lot prettier as she became kinder and happier. The artists stopped drawing her face scrunched up from unflattering angles or her smile as a grimace. They started drawing her less like her mother and sister and more like they drew Cinderella. It's such a subtle shift that adds so much to her character arc.

[@Mo_Nilla_Co]

Wouldn't Cinderella III technically be consider the true sequel because in the end credits, there's art of Anastasia and the Baker being together

[@PHSDM104]

Number 2 probably takes place AFTER number 3.

[@Mo_Nilla_Co]

@@PHSDM104 I'm thinking that too. That's pretty interesting that the team making the third movie was able to do this and still keep the second one canon, wonder if that was the intention or something the big mouse wanted.

[@fangirl365]

@@PHSDM104 I thought of it more like a different timeline. Like, the turning point is either when Anastasia does or doesn’t come across the wand or when she meets or doesn’t meet the baker. Otherwise, why would Anastasia be back in her mother’s good graces after the events of the third movie?

[@PHSDM104]

@@fangirl365 That's another thing to think about.

[@Mo_Nilla_Co]

@@fangirl365 Maybe she does it out of the goodness of her heart when the magic expires from their spell and once she meets the baker, realizes she doesn't need to be with her mother. That's one conclusion I came up with

[@Namingway248]

disney's cinderella is an adaption of a hundreds of years old tale that they did not create. I would argue that writing and creating an expansion to that which has little to nothing to do with the source material constitutes as fanfiction, but honestly the semantic argument here isn't really important, since I agree with your actual points.

[@madeniquevanwyk]

I don't know how specific the definition of fanfiction is, in my book I also see it as a derivative work from original characters that aren't the author's own creation, and in that case I do agree that I think it's fanfiction, at least technically. But the fact that it was made for profit and not shared in a community of fans, is probably where the waters get muddied. Fanfiction loses its main purpose if it gets put behind a paywall, I believe.

[@dimethylhydra4095]

there's still something so wild to me about how good cinderella 3 ended up being considering how much inertia there is behind "second direct-to-video sequel to cinderella (1950)"

[@ladyphoenixgrey3923]

Cinderella is such a good story of enduring kindness. I really wish more people could see that rather than the feminism stuff. Thanks for the video. Thoroughly enjoyed it! ❤️❤️❤️ Also, Anastasia’s love story is a great contrast to Cinderella. One is raised up from being humble, the other is humbled to learn the value of love and kindness. I’m not a huge fan of the sequels, but they weren’t the worst.

[@kiriki4558]

I think it's about time rather that feminism itself. The critiques helped to create deviations of the clasic role model for girls (wich Cinderella was part of) , that was límited to be kind to others and always with romance as an ending or reward. Now with different kind of roles models and lessons works like Cinderella can shine by themselves without being part of something repeated, limiting or harmful.

[@claytongriffith8323]

Is Cinderella's kindness, patience, and ability to keep herself safe while not compromising on her beliefs not feminism stuff?

[@DC_let_the_Waynes_be_happy]

@@claytongriffith8323 it is,she's a strong woman and she doesn't let others change her,feminism isn't about being tough all the time and being better than men like some people seem to think, it's about women being whoever they want to be without being ashamed of it,is about uplifting each other and allowing women to do with their lives whatever they want

[@claytongriffith8323]

@@DC_let_the_Waynes_be_happy That was my point, I was confused by the initial comment because it seemed to suggest that feminism is a distraction or deterrent from that. I could have been misinterpreting it so I was asking for confirmation on the idea.

[@DC_let_the_Waynes_be_happy]

@@claytongriffith8323 yep,I see your point, I was just confirming it

[@juliagoodwin9510]

I love that they gave Cinderella and her Prince more to do in this sequel. _Especially_ the Prince, who, at one point, _flings himself out the goddamned window_ so he can find his true love!

[@namelessnavnls8060]

"Best Disney sequel of all time" We all know how low THAT bar is.. but yeah, this movie is really good and fun. It's kinda amazing how they got me invested and drawn in by the absolutely out-there concept. The stakes were so high, and you really REALLY feel for poor Cinderella and the Prince. And Anastasia too. I mean.. would YOU have guessed there was time travel in the third movie of.. Cinderella??? XD Friggin _Cinderella??_

[@dominaiscna]

And a several full on action sequences xD never would have expected it

[@hornetsilksong]

This video analysis explains why this sequel resonated with me as a child more than most of the other Disney sequels (Brother Bear 2 is also a gem). Even as a child I noticed the really good character writing and proactive characters, and the well executed redemption of an antagonist

[@Trecherousbeast]

I love Disney sequels, but other than a select few, I could totally see myself watching this in the theaters. It’s so cinematic compared to most of the others!

[@ScionStorm1]

@@Trecherousbeast Bambi 2 was actually shown in theaters outside US.

[@sienasutherland5192]

I love lion king 2 and little mermaid 2 and 3

[@cristinaacosta8938]

NGL I just love how savage the prince is 🤣 Also, it warms my heart every single time that I hear the king's story about the love he had for his wife and the way he encourages Anastasia to be herself and not worry about it when there is love there. I dunno, my head canon is that down the line Anastasia is symbolically adopted by the king because I really felt that he truly cared for her.

[@mophead_xu]

well cinderella is his daughter in law, and anastasia is cinderella's step-sister with pretty good relationship with her post-redemption arc. so the king ended up treating anastasia as his own daughter as well isn't that far fetched. :D

[@LokiStarOmen]

I love how you described the fanfiction community and everything I love about it. As always there is a toxic side to it but there’s a reason it exists and I still love writing fan-fiction to this day

[@martabarrales3112]

man, I've read some fan fiction that's better than actual published books

[@themightypancake5695]

Heck, I've read fanfiction that fixes the plot of actual published/canon stories

[@joyflameball]

"He is what intellectuals call a himbo" is a blessed sentence

[@joshuatewolde1837]

King: “I Forbid You To Tale ANOTHER Step DOWN These Stairs!!!!” Prince Charming: “OK.” The Best Line That Made THIS Direct-To-Video Disney A HIT!

[@Hotchocolaterabbit]

"He is what intellectuals refer to as: a himbo" I CRIED

[@kokepasu4583]

The second one is actually the third one chronologically, because in the end credits of Cinderella 3 we see Anastasia ending up with the Baker, something that happens in the second movie but would not make sense to happen before the events of the third movie.

[@Jess-mb2oi]

Cinderella 3 being more like fanfiction makes a lot of sense a why I still enjoy it to this day. I used to always say that it was the only one where the prince had a personality, I loved the prince in the movie because he became more interesting and fun to watch

[@wormswithteeth]

I liked how they flashed out Anastasia as a character. The songs were quite poor. It's decent though.

[@surreallane9730]

The Baker tale in the sequel was the only reason I would watch it and it melted my cold dark heart as a kid. The baker was added to one of my earlier Disney crushes.

[@wallacehunters9218]

Ive always described cinderella 3 as cinderella realizing that there was a way out of her situation and taking it with both hands. She's passive in the first movie because it was safe, but now that she has met the prince and realized that there is a possibility for her to be with him she's going to take it and run.

[@Drexaan]

8:0 "The prince had the growing impression that something was wrong" HUGE himbo energy

[@niteangel0496]

I really love Cinderella 3. I loved seeing Prince Charming get more character development, Cinderella fighting for what she wants in her own way, seeing the king's more gentle side, etc. I especially love the fact that in end credits there's a portrait that shows Anastasia & the Baker still managed to meet and fall in love with each other even after the Stepmother changed everything. (Her story line in Cinderella 2 was the only thing I like about the movie)

[@themagicalrobotprisma2793]

Time, space it’s more than just a linear path, it’s a prism of infinite worlds created by one choice. But seriously I see AUs now as a what if story. And Cinderella 3 looking back feels like an episode of that show

[@Igorcastrochucre]

I just remembered something, Disney is making a Lion King prequel, something that the fans wanted for years ever since the novels came out, and in the intervening 20 years, fan-art and fan-fiction took the mantle and brought to life their own takes on that story. And considering how many great ones are there, if the movie doesn't hold up, it might be the biggest argument for fan-fiction ever.

[@s.b.doodles7625]

Cinderella 3 was my favorite movie as a kid! I've been seeing so many more people covering it recently, and it makes me really happy to see more people appreciating this great movie!!

[@theonebeing981]

The scene of the King and Anastasia, really hit different, even for a Disney movie, they really proved that building over something instead of simply remaking it entirely is not only easier, but extremely effective, it would be nice to have more nuanced sequels of the classics and revisiting abandoned projects, more so since there seems to be a greater appreciation for the underdogs at the time.

[@kokepasu4583]

The sad thing is that the prince was originally going to have a lot more characterization, but it was cut out... The first scene he was meant to be introduced in, it showed him chasing a deer as if he was hunting it, but then it's revealed that he and the deer are friends and it was a game. ♥️

[@SophiiLuca]

If i remember correctly (from science), the new past wouldn’t actually replace the old past, but instead create an alternate universe/parallel universe, so actually both pasts and futures exist, just not in the same universe.

[@brandonlyon730]

So like how it works in the Marvel universe? (Both comics and MCU)

[@dalila2442]

For some reason, the whole series of Steven Universe always felt like fanfiction to me. Stuff that at the time could only happen in fanfiction happened in canon, and it was such an important part of the story too. All the drama and different ways the characters felt about each other had such a fanfic feel to it. Felt like any ship was possible, like any dark theory could be true. Coming from the mlp fandom, where all those things always stayed in fandom, it was so refreshing to see a story explore it's characters so deeply and dedicated to even the darker parts of it. Maybe THAT'S what gives things the "fanfic" feel. Not being scared of changing the status quo. She-ra also feels this way to me.

[@LordChesalot]

The story telling in your writing is really enjoyable to listen to and seems to consistently improve for a already quality standard

[@nathanseper8738]

I think Cinderella 3 is not only a legitimately good sequel but an excellent story in its own right.

[@bryancroidragon457]

I've been meaning to watch this movie for a while. If this video doesn't stop my putting it off, I don't know what will. I love "Cinderella" in general and I am happy my favourite director Kenneth Branagh was the one to direct the 2015 film. I also have an interest in regional variants, having read "The Girl with the Rose-red Slippers", which comes from Ancient Egypt, and "Fair, Brown and Trembling", which comes from Ireland, and I am always interested in variations on the story be it regional, a modern reworking or what have you. I really loved this video and will recommend it to others.

[@thatjedifromgallifrey6663]

Have you read Cinder? it's the first book in The Lunar Chronicles, a series where each book is a dystopian retelling of fairy tales. I'd highly recommend it if you haven't!

[@bryancroidragon457]

I haven't but I will!

[@bryancroidragon457]

@Will N I'll check it out.

[@beckysabo9651]

I used to think that Cinderella 3 was the original because we didn't have the original when I was a child, so I've always loved Cinderella 3 lol

[@xxxNamiCxxx]

Cinderella 2 truly was what made me fall in love with Anastasia and I am glad that in there, they showed that even a character who was originally depicted as a Villain (even if it was a side one) can be redeemed if they wanted to. Yes, I know other Disney characters has shown this too in the past before her, but I also like that it also showed us that there is more to her than what we originally saw. So the fact that Cinderella 3 took advantage of this redemption of Anastasia and did it better, makes me even more happy! I would’ve been so upset if they kept her as a villain again after they reset everything and if I recall, they did show a small hint of Anastasia with the baker again. So I love that she still is able to find her true love in the end no matter what the universe or timeline is.

[@Robalexe]

The end credits of Cinderella 3 do indeed show Anastasia and the baker getting together

[@Fionacle]

One of the classic princes getting a personality was crazy, bro

[@singmeunder]

As someone who writes fanfiction of the character analysis in canon variety, I highly appreciate stories that keeps characters _in-character._ Many of the fanfics on AO3 are generally pretty good about characterization since there’s a heavy focus on tropes and tags focusing on specific aspects of a character’s personality traits or relationships. Many are borderline professional in their quality, often developing their own subfandoms (such as Passerine, Dirty Laundry, etc.) Wattpad, on the other hand, generally has fanfics that fit the wish-fulfillment part where the world/status of the characters is more interesting than the characterization evidenced by how its tags focus on genres. Ironically, this also means that original works tend to thrive better in Wattpad than AO3. I like to think that the distinct “average quality” of the stories is due to the tagging system.

[@johnnyancientseed4357]

Just because something doesn't need to exist doesn't mean it can't be good!

[@abigailr0se103]

Another thing I noticed about this great movie is how much more normal the characters’ waistlines are. I didn’t even realize until watching this video and being able to compare side by side that they all have more normal portions ( even if she’s still built like a princess )

[@DracoSkull13]

2 random comments, 1 just loved all of cinderella's hair during 2 and 3, 2 and the overall animation holds up well 20ish years later, 3 only wish you included the scene where the prince jumps out the window, funniest part to me Love all your videos

[@parlinmains]

20ish? I’m not that old, right?

[@Alliniska]

The scene is at the very end :D

[@Aritso]

Honestly, Anastasia came to be my favorite character. I like that she's not beautiful by appearance, she's not graceful and she can be clumsy. Despite all of that, she too wants to have the same happy life Cinderella gets and goes through her own way of getting what she wishes for in her own way.

[@madsceptictrooper6803]

I arrived here to see your review of Cinderella III but I also witnessed a nice speech about fanfictions. Even though I'm not a fan of direct-to-video sequels in general, I consider Cinderella III as the perfect sequel and the best direct-to-video sequel ever. I even prefer Cinderella III over the classic Cinderella film. To be honest, I'm not a fan of the classic Cinderella from 1950 and the live-action remake from 2016. I just find them meh. Cinderella III on the other hand destroyed my expectations in the best way possible. As an aspiring fanfic writer, I found your speech about fanfictions really interesting. My best friend has also given me some tips about creating fanfictions in general. The reason why I want to create fanfics is if I'm not happy about the directions and conclusions the official canon did, especially for my favorite characters. In my fanfics, I also include themes that the creators of the official canons were too ignorant or weren't brave enough to have like mature philosophical and psychological themes and most notably LGBT representation.

[@kitkat8711]

THIS MOVIE IS LEGENDARY! literally everyone I’ve met who watched it as a child acknowledges it as a great movie, sadly it’s difficult to get older people to watch this movie.

[@thedangerousivy]

I just rewatched this film for the first time in years and it completely holds up, I loved every second. Also, Cinderella's wedding dress in this 😲 is beautiful & fantastic

[@nicoleflores2054]

To be honest, it's like people forgets that emotional strong characters exists and take the concept of "strong" as physical strong, which again, there's no problem with that but if the character doesn't take a build up with their personality, then it feels like the character is just beyond bland. I feel like both types are really important for a character, in my opinion.

[@brookeb4563]

"He is, what intellectuals call, a himbo" is the best characterization of the prince I've ever seen

[@SparkedSoul]

In current times, Disney is going crazy with StarWars spinoffs and anthologies. They ALSO feel like fanfiction, especially some of the anthologies that have come out in the recent days. I don't know if you'll see this comment but I hope you cover something along these lines, it would be so interesting!

[@taydrabrookshire347]

This is the only legitimate Cinderella sequel. We don’t acknowledge that crappy Saturday morning cartoon compilation Disney claims is “Cinderella 2”.

[@minhamaenaomecrioupraseregirl]

This is the best disney sequel ever made, the characters all have tremendous amounts of personality, the plot is amazing, and this is one of the best time traveling stories ever

[@DianaDxD]

Honestly the fact Disney took the Prince and made him go from a blank boring slate into a himbo is kinda amazing and I love them for doing so🤣

[@midorirayray6421]

My absolute favorite storyline of all the Cinderella movies was definitely Anastasia's love story with the baker. I just remember absolutely loving that redemption arc and adorable love story. It always gave me the warm fuzzies. ❤️💕

[@chiaknight]

I just recently watched this movie again and I realized just how underrated this trilogy is. The character development is handled so well, ESPECIALLY with Anastasia. It's so hard to see good sequels nowadays, and this makes me appreciate them

[@twistysunshine]

This movie kicks ass, absolutely my favorite Disney sequel

[@k.Angela]

There are just genuinely amazing fanfictions that you can't help but wish it would have been canon or be made on-screen. When I write too, I strive so hard to line it with canon, tbh. Cinderella 3 is a representation for me of how it would have felt like if those fanfictions I adore came to life or be canonized. Like, if great fanfics feel canon though it's not, this vid talks about the other way around, yet it still emphasized this film's beauty because many fanfics are actually amazing. I love how you explained the characterizations on how little reference they got from the original yet it feels so much like them. You could already have an impression of a dork in the prince in the original, and they expanded on it lol. I also love how they never made Cinderella bad ass in the new one, they just showed what side of her she ALREADY had from the original. OG Cinderella is admirably brave and patient, but willing to fight for her dreams on the time she knew she finally has to. That's just what the 3rd film showed. I'm so happy my favorite princess had the best sequel treatment lol.

[@Froglord669]

Sooo glad that i wasn't the only one who loved this movie, this movie gives me really nice nostalgia :)

[@LiliannEnder]

Not gonna lie, the scene where the Prince jumped off the window to escape was just a classic

[@The_Firevenus]

I'm in glee when you didn't agreed with the argument "Cinderella is a weak character" I was so ready to rant lmao!

[@totallynotjevii574]

Honestly writing fanfiction is super fun if you get more basic characters like in Cinderella. It’s probably why I like cookie run so much, a large pallet of characters that are fairly 2 dimensional but with good snippets of potential, and it’s great to see it unfold in fanfiction. The format of a running game with minimal dialogue has given a lot of creative freedom. Though the characters have gotten a lot more complex tbh. Someone has legit religious trauma as a baked good. It’s crazy. I’ve read some really good fanfiction of it, and seen one called a character study, and I really get what they mean. Fanfiction is such an under-appreciated medium that helps people expand their writing abilities and express their love of a work.

[@lyra6096]

I love how the characters in this movie actually have personality *cough* the prince *cough*

[@PrincessFelicie]

Why yes, I love fanfiction, I write some myself! It's a fun time :)

[@mkthatartist7979]

I was watching this while making a fanfiction 😳 I love to put these types of videos in the background lol

[@elenanojkovic2554]

Same here! Which fandom, if I may ask?

[@mkthatartist7979]

@@elenanojkovic2554 I know some people don’t like this fandom but…. Hamilton

[@elenanojkovic2554]

@@mkthatartist7979 No worries, I'm on that fandom, although I'm more of a casual fan. I used to read some Hamilton fics back in, what was it, 2017 but since Good Omens and now Ducktales have taken over my life. And Ducktales are the fandom I'm writing in.

[@mkthatartist7979]

@@elenanojkovic2554 I’ve been wanting to watch duck tales for a while now. Maybe I’ll watch it

[@elenanojkovic2554]

@@mkthatartist7979 Give it a watch. If you enjoy things Like Gravity Falls and such, you will probably enjoy it. Just...beware of the ending od season 1, no spoilers but...let's just say it's the 'Blow us all away' moment of DT series....

[@awkwardukulele6077]

Every single character in this is so fantastically true to their older versions. It literally feels like we’re watching real people develop and share more of themselves as their lives go on. I can’t help but think someone WAS writing this like fan-fiction, but just happened to also get hired by Disney through their lifelong love of Disney’s stories. Basically, I’m calling it: a fanfic-er got hired and wrote this story. That’s my theory for why Disney made something as well thought out as this.

[@Scarlet8375]

Thank you for saying all of this! AND saying that fanfiction is actually pretty amazing! The majority of people use the term 'fanfiction' thinking it's just badly done, cringy stories 13 year old girls wrote, when in reality *there's so much more to it than that*. The badly done fanfiction does exist, because it can be written by literally anyone and posted where anyone can see it, but there's also a large amount of good fanfiction and the longest piece of human literature happens to be a fanfiction. Fanfiction is underrated and someone needed to say it. Thank you, and thank you for your wonderful review of this movie.

[@lovely__shadow9305]

Growing up I was a huge princess fan. Cinderella was my favorite princess, but Cinderella 3 was by far my favorite.

[@jesselynmaxkidz2989]

Wait, wait, wait... Cinderella was supposed to be the protagonist?! I thought Anastasia was the protagonist this whole time! I thought Cinderella's story was more of a B-plot that we follow (so we know what cinderella does and not just give her "oh yeah she did this off screen" treatment) because the focus was on Anastasia's development...

[@Robalexe]

Cinderella, Charming and Anastasia are all protagonists in this movie.

[@gersonandrescuevaspierola1390]

I wasn't expecting him being called a himbo 😂

[@amarg7657]

anastasia is a great character over all the fact that she gets an redeption arc shows how us humans can sometime sbe shitty people but grow to be genuine and learn from our past mistakes shes a great character overall and relatable im sure to many women

[@AndersWatches]

I’ve only just started the video but had to say I loved Cinderella 3 so much. It doesn’t take itself too seriously and is genuinely funny. And! The Prince actually has a personality!!

[@beachballssideaccount]

Cinderella 3 is one of those movies I remember very vividly and very fondly. Cinderella always deserved her happy ending, but this version of the story has so much fun and personality to it that I'm glad that this one is technically the canon timeline! It's also a valuable message, I think, that it's okay to have moments where you feel like you're at your lowest point, it doesn't make you weak. If anything, it makes your optimistic moments more powerful.

[@thetrippleAAAz]

I had this as a kid, just as a throw away DVD my mum bought, and was absolutely shocked even at an 11 year old, if it’s quality. So happy to see it get appreciated nowadays 💕

[@danyellemint2158]

Another good Disney sequel that people forget about is The Little Mermaid: Ariel’s Beginning. It has its flaws but I like it and loved it as a child.

[@missroyaltea4012]

@Will N oh i love that series it was very cute

[@ScionStorm1]

@Will N early parts of Ariel's Beginning provided some good content such as a reasonable explanation for Triton's personality and feelings towards humans, reason why a court composer would hold so much sway as the king's confidant and actually developing Ariel's sisters as individual personalities. The plot was meh though, the villain was weak and Flounder is inexplicably out of character.

[@Jollyinha]

@@ScionStorm1 Also it's basically a Little Mermaid version of Footloose if you think about it lol

[@conr1633]

What I love about this film is how it brought out the pure wickedness within Lady Tremaine. Yes, she’s pretty bad in the original film but she’s just an archetypal wicked stepmother, like the Queen from Snow White. Here, she’s downright evil to the core and will stop at nothing until Cinderella is miserable, even if that means harming her own daughter in the process.

[@Queen_Of_Discord]

A fanfic-y second sequel to Cinderella has no right being as amazing as it is, especially considering the quality of the first sequel.

[@brandonlyon730]

Well in fairness the first “sequel” was basically just 3 episodes of a scrapped Cinderella tv show that never went through.

[@PaintSplashProductions]

As a fanfiction writer I appreciate this video. Cinderella 3 is so underrated, it definitely made Prince Charming into my top 5 favourite Disney Princes. I also love Anastasia’s redemption arc, she’s an awesome character especially with the ending

[@princessjello]

Considering the existence of marvel what if, fanfic really ought to be recognized for what it's done for culture

[@ericfreedman2347]

Have a great day

[@amdraglover]

I wrote fan fiction for a class in college and managed to get an A on it. I was proud of that.

[@eway44]

As a fanfic author, the intro made me happy

[@Mandrake_root]

haven't started the video yet but I'm already glad. I've heard other people talk about how this movie isn't good, but it was my favorite of the Cinderella movies by far.

[@mashed-taytoes6069]

Your videos always make me so happy and nostalgic!

[@OhsweetOhno]

I always come back to this channel. No matter what I do I find my way back here every few months or so

[@zombathinlostleghackercat5233]

The thought of 3 Cinderella movies with the same premise is shocking to me. I don't think I've actually seen any of these movies, but I only know 1 premise, so maybe they're all similar.

[@oz_the_archivist]

All of my aus where I insert my self insert character/his lore into a story is just "what if this story was cosmic horror and from the pov of an interdimensional traveler who was stuck in w/e dimension and was tasked with summoning eldritch gods to take over said dimension even though he *really* hates it" it's cringe and self indulgent but it makes me feel happy.

[@callumdrage5889]

I gotta say Cinderella III: A Twist in Time was surprisingly good! Definitely think it’s one of the best DisneyToon films released!

[@crazyunicorn16]

I love your takes on movies and I find confort in that little "thank youuuu" at the end of your videos. Now I'm going to watch this masterpiece again, since it's been a while lol

[@kaly_ths_291]

My favourite Disney movie, alongside Emperor's new groove and Mulan.

[@catloaff]

This movie and Shrek Forever After is my favorite fanfic AU-to-movie adaptation

[@theweirdscape]

love coming back to ur channel every now and then to just listen to ur thoughts and videos :D keep at it drawpinion, i love ur stuff!

[@DrawpinionDump]

thanks for the love!