Blade Runner 2049 Is The Artsiest Big Budget Sci Fi Can Get | CineFix Top 100

[@comscouts]

Watched this in IMAX in 2017 and I'm glad I did. One of the most gorgeous films I've ever seen! 🙌

[@O-Heyguys]

Jealous. I missed it and have legit regretted not seeing it since then

[@TCReyes]

I hope they re-release it in IMAX for an anniversary

[@davidspolidoro9299]

😊😊😊😊😊

[@Her_Viscera]

same!!

[@TheEntity0]

This was possibly the best experience I ever had in a movie theater.

[@Jwhiteshirt]

So happy you guys are back! Even happier you’re talking about Blade Runner 2049

[@dclarkmusic]

One of my favs! I love dark, boring, deadly serious sci-fi 🤣 I love the slow burn, almost meditative feel to it, and virtually every shot could be framed and hung on a wall.

[@MrWhipple42]

BR2049 is my favorite film of the last ten years. It's a rare sequel that expands on the original without remaking it or retreading the same ground.

[@wahn10]

Don't be mean to poor Jared. He was trying his best. 😢

[@chinaman8888]

I can relate to both Alex's and Michael's feelings here. The original Blade Runner is a film I have always respected but could never fully love. To me it comes off as being full of wonderful atmosphere and ideas, yet lacks a well told plot/narrative to make it whole. Blade Runner 2049 on the other hand is a film that I very much respect AND love because it managed to maintain the original's atmosphere while also pulling off an engaging plot.

[@thedarthbred]

Ridley is about vibes, Denis builds deep lore

[@SadThrash]

Great to have y'all back! BR 2049 is an all-timer for me. I also gotta advocate for the final fight between K & Luv, though, as I feel like whole sequence is the culmination of the film's themes surrounding the state of its world -- and it all comes down to where it's set. The towering sea wall desperately pushing back against the unstoppable natural force that is the ocean is the clear symbolic stand-in for mankind's attempts to hold back the rising tide of replicant revolution. Everything about that sequence, from its flooded imagery to Zimmer's immense score, is overwhelming to me. And the fact that Luv, as a facilitator of mankind's oppression, is drowned in that raging ocean drives those ideas home even more. Heck, K literally emerges from the ocean to strangle Luv, truly joining the movement as he gives his life for a cause greater than himself. It's just incredible visual storytelling on so many levels.

[@daffyrwt]

So glad you guys are back, seriously thought this podcast somehow died. But seriously for the love that is all good could you please let us know what you guys are talking about next so people like me can prepare before the next episode? I hate having to whine about this frequently.

[@jphilb]

Or release a 30 sec vid, not a short, on Monday saying “Join us next Sunday for a discussion on The Fifth Element”. Or whatever.

[@daffyrwt]

@@jphilb the thing is is that they did it almost every video for last season at least (can't quite remember the first season). I just get frustrated with the lack of communication.

[@Meesterlijker]

Just like the original Blade Runner, this movie truly does get better with every other rewatch. A postmodern masterpiece and instant cult classic!

[@MyNewYoutubeName]

Considering 2049 was never going to be a huge hit, I'm just so glad they made it. It feels like it was made specifically for me. Well, except for the Jared Leto scenes.

[@AManWhoWasntThere]

I don't like Jaret Leto either but I think he did alright in this. I think creepy villain is easy for him to pull off 😂

[@acledfloyd]

In all the legacy sequels Harrison Ford did; Blade Runner, Indiana Jones, and Star Wars; he is a father that is estranged from his child.

[@True-Faux]

Great observation!

[@fireman1226576]

You’d think he’d be good at it by now

[@apoxuponme9575]

Every time i watch this film i see or think something new. Its a masterpiece

[@ChunAsperEndao]

The panel talked about the protagonist wanting to be the "chosen one" and ultimately resigning himself to the fact that it's not his story, but I feel like they glossed over the ways in which that reflects the film's themes of humanity. What I love about Gosling's performance is that he comes across as being acutely aware of the fact that he isn't human, but you end up getting the impression that that awareness is the very thing that gives him a human-like inner life. I think the movie conveys the idea that neither heroism nor humanity can be taken for granted-- that you can become a hero by accepting that you aren't one and that you can become fully human by wrestling with painful doubts about your place in the world.

[@hawkenjc]

I love the fake out of the chosen one narrative. The message being that even as just a normal Joe he can still do heroic things and find a cause worth fighting for.

[@Advent3546]

Happy you guys are back. This is probably the best legacy sequel ever made.

[@Michael-xp7gw]

Welcome back! Thank goodness. I love this series. Alex's "I respect it more than I like it" is not uncommon and has been used by others in the past to describe their feelings on the original Bladerunner film. I just want to add that 2049 is an amazing sequel to a film that noone was looking for nor asking for. I love both films.

[@Zed-fq3lj]

Blade Runner Duology is the best piece of sci-fi of all times. Both Blade Runner films are beyond words, each one a masterpiece in its own right! 🤩🤩🥰🥰🙌🙌

[@MrMann0123]

Just rewatched this again on the big screen as part of a double feature with the original. I fell in love with both again. So achingly beautiful and intelligent and... just perfection.

[@seanellio]

I saw this in IMAX and loved it. I was surprised by the end. And the scene with Replicant Sean Young? That was amazing.

[@YesterdaysMoose]

Welcome back! I legit watched this film twice in the theater, it's genuinely a cinematic experience. One of the few, perhaps only, worthy legacy sequels. Denis Villenueve's style suits this film extremely well, it's easy to see how he secured Dune.

[@jonahthejedai4973]

This is currently sitting in my top 4 at Letterboxd. It’s hard to just choose favorite films over others, especially with so many varied and wonderful experiences. But when it comes to Science Fiction, nothing is better than 2049. It sits beautifully alongside 2001, and seriously outshines the slump and sentiment of Interstellar. It’s Villeneuve’s most accomplished film. Only narrowly beating out Arrival.

[@baddayoverdosed]

The scene of neon pink billboard JOI calling him “a good Joe” is the most heartbreaking shattering of illusions I’ve ever seen

[@Ghadente]

Woo you 100 is back! * so jealous, I want to work at a place with a MvC arcade machine! 😮

[@DadCanInJapan]

Welcome back ... finally. I have been waiting for this and am looking forward to watching Taxi Driver this season, right?

[@parmentier1984]

So happy you guys are back!

[@vincentvacuus7010]

There can never be enough content about 2049

[@MrMann0123]

So great to see you all back

[@Gutock]

Really missed this! Great work per usual !

[@_MC529]

1:02:05 damn, you started a war with a single sentence.

[@ricardocalderondelabarca6785]

I've never understood the criticisms against Interstellar (apart from Anne Hathaway's Love monologue, that one I understand) it's an amazing movie, and imo, Nolan's most emotionallly charged work

[@_MC529]

@@ricardocalderondelabarca6785 spot on. Interstellar and Inception are absolutely captivating imo. Exceptional movies.

[@gerardo4104]

The masterpiece that changed the way I watch movies. So sad I didn't watch it in theater.

[@tony714]

One of the best movie theater experiences I've had. Masterful soundtrack and cinematography

[@PinakKashyap42]

Watched this one in an IMAX in Bangkok. Loved everything about it.

[@swsephy]

I'm so glad this series is back

[@miketalks4199]

The original Blade Runner feels like it helped to create a genre/style. BR2049 doesn't feel as groundbreaking. BUT I would argue that the story for 2049 is a better. But then being almost an hour shorter, the original is a tighter tale. So, I really appreciate the differences and this wasn't a lazy sequel. It builds on the world without retconning the world. Very hard to do.

[@5tricksters336]

Nolan and Denis are 2 of my favorite directors today. Interstellar is one of, if not my favorite movies ever.

[@jedisid]

Yeah this video is just what I need! 2049 changed my life.

[@JadenHybrid]

That's the thing, this movie makes you think.

[@MetalForLife1970]

This movie is a visual masterpiece and why the 2 1/2 hour runtime doesn't feel so daunting for first time viewers. Sadly I think a lot of critiques of this movie use the long run time to downplay it and those folks are missing the great story that lies beneath the incredible visuals. Don't sleep on this movie because of some of the negative reviews if you're contemplating watching this for the first time!

[@kenip9800]

It takes balls for a list like this to include 2049 but not the original Blade Runner. I like balls.

[@mattyt1961]

Seen this movie a few times, absolutely love it, and only just now realised the opening shot is literally begging you to ask what an android dreams about. I am apparently not that observant :)

[@snackplissken8192]

I grew up on Bladerunner, and it is one of my all-time favorite films. Bladerunner 2049 is, with the possible exception of his excellent adaptation of Dune, my favorite Villeneuve movie. Sicario is great, and I did like "Arrival" though I think the original short story "The Story of Your Life" was better because the mechanic and theme of the story works more effectively as a narrative. The original Bladerunner hit me hard with the tears in rain scene, but Bladerunner 2049 has a lot more scenes that really hit you emotionally. 2049's equivalent of tears in rain had me crying so hard that I had trouble driving home from the IMAX. 2049 is what made me go back and watch Villeneuve.

[@camchangfilms]

I agree. I really like all of Denis’s movies, but imo this is absolutely his best work. And I also think it’s much better than the original

[@MetalForLife1970]

The fact the score for this movie didn't get nominated is a crime!

[@taylorjack2130]

10/10 film

[@jaaydee93]

I loves watching this on a big screen, best cinema experience next to mad max

[@solomonchilds8574]

Glad it’s back

[@Mykasan]

i miss the old cinefix...😢

[@rocketsocks]

I love this film, I saw it 4 times in the theaters. If there's a unique list it should go on it would be "movies that leave the viewer with more questions than answers", with 2001 being pretty high up the top of the list.

[@carmawarlock8455]

I enjoyed this extended video breakdown on the novel Plaefire by Vladimir Nabakov. Jk thanks for pointing that out, thats a really interesting easter egg

[@cookiewoman8959]

Third favorite movie of all time. 🎥

[@jasuindiloan]

Glad it's baaack! But... what's the next film? :(

[@nessleepk]

On my birthday?!?! Oh baby we’re so back

[@stephenhakimi2375]

Happy birthday

[@CornishCreamtea07]

Happy Birthday, hope you had a great day.

[@caterinagargiulo]

This is wonderful

[@realPlinkett]

Hell yeah! Watched it in IMAX in a double feature screening with the original in the great Savoy movie theater in Hamburg, Germany. What a great experience that was! And I have to say, I like the sequel more than the original.

[@DarkZerav]

I was trilled when I saw it in a movie theater, loved every second of it. Yet I can hardly watch it in one go at my home, my couch is too comfortable. XD

[@DaveJohnson-d7i]

People complain that Nolan explains his movies too much, but then they complained Dunkirk didn't explain enough. There is no pleasing a fan base

[@yskim2636]

All frosting, no cake.

[@mattyt1961]

Joi naming him Joe, there is a blink and you'll miss it billboard (I think it is when he is coming back from retiring Sapper) for the male version of Joi called Joe

[@veroelischwarz8633]

This is unrelated, sorry, but I've noticed the last "what's the difference" video came out 10 months ago, so I hope it's ok to express a suggestion/ a wish here: I was really into Greek mythology as a (European) kid and just finished the KAOS series on Netflix. I would just love to see a great professional video about it, I noticed so many easter eggs and hints ("I can't look at you") and so on, but can't place every exact story. It would be great if you covered KAOS in your next "what's the difference"!

[@JadenHybrid]

He's right, but like Terminator, the first one is needed.

[@danieltrevinoc]

This is a great discussion, I should rewatch BR2049

[@danieltrevinoc]

Also, I love the discussion at the end comparing Denis to Nolan/Kubrick. I think none of them are a modern Kubrick, but I would argue that Lanthimos is a more shitposty, less serious version of Kubrick imo.

[@ChunAsperEndao]

Sometimes I make a point of rewatching the movies I've already seen before watching the corresponding episode. I didn't for this one and I regret it!

[@PapaCoco1128]

Yes, Denis Villeneuve is the real Christopher Nolan

[@42Strangelove]

Missed this podcast so much! What movie is next?

[@apenneukende]

the better bladerunner for sure!

[@proposmontreal]

Villeneuve's french filmography doesn't get the attention it deserves, obviously, language barrier. but Incendie and Polytechnique are as good as some of his big Hollywood stuff, at 1% de budget

[@DreamFearless]

I saw this movie when it came out and couldnt see the brilliance. I was living life on a very surface level, and winning, and the movie felt meandering and pointless. A subtle message that wasnt for me anyways. Except it was, my life just hadnt caught up to the story yet. I cant imagine a more profound genre for modern times than Cyberpunk, or a question more beautifully asked than _what does it mean to be human?_ by Bladerunner.

[@jphilb]

And everyone is in the studio/arcade!!

[@dadesmat]

I am baffled every time I hear that Christopher Nolan movies are hard to understand and it blows my mind that "despise" and "Interstellar" can be put in the same sentence. And why on earth a director should be like Kubrick and can not be his own thing, like if every painter should be Raffaello. Any way BR2049 is a piece of art!

[@willis936]

Okay but they're not really robots, are they? The great reveal in the first movie is that the opening crawl misdirects the audience by calling them "androids" but then the rest of the movie trickle feeds you data points about how they're organic until by the end you realize that they are just slightly genetically modified humans and branded as another species. Not even another species, they're branded as non-living so it's easier to enslave them. It's a story about how good marketing helped reintroduce slavery and genocide and do it on an interplanetary scale. And you the viewer get to go on the journey from the other direction, just thinking "oh it's nice to have robot helpers" in the beginning.

[@1wwtom]

Blade Runner back in 1982 was the 1st video cassette I bought knowing Nothing about the film except what I read on the box. Then VCRs were replaced with DVDs. Thanks to the Internet since W95 all my movies & TV shows are Digital on my 1Tb Ext hard drives. I didn't care for the 2049 version at all so I did Not add it to my library.

[@Deraphim]

I saw it on a plane… and I was really surprised how much I liked it. I think the pretentious part of me still holds a grudge against the movies for taking so many liberties when adapting the original book.

[@JadenHybrid]

MVC 2 cabinet....hype. Background.

[@HeyAaron12]

Why are the two hosts on the right avoiding eye contact??? What happened between them?

[@ReverendMeat51]

The original BR has put me to sleep every time I've tried watching it. 2049 kept my attention throughout

[@kierenmoore3236]

58:34 … “they make 2049, we kind of set it in stone” … are you saying he wasn’t a replicant because he aged … ?

[@allisonbergh4429]

Have you guys done a “movies about movies” list? It could have The Movie Hero and Lost In La Mancha (full disclosure I just LOVE The Movie Hero and want to see it get some love)

[@ChunAsperEndao]

It probably wouldn't be too to break this down into sub-categories. There are documentaries about both great and notoriously bad movies (e.g. "The Burden of Dreams" and "Best Worst Move") as well as documentaries about movies that never got made up to that point (e.g. "Jodorowsky's Dune"). There are mostly non-fiction narratives about the making of real movies (e.g. "Ed Wood") as well as completely fictional narratives built around real movies (e.g. "Shadow of the Vampire"). Then there are movies about non-existent movies which are inspired by the real thing (e.g. "Matinee" and "The Artist"), and movies that take place either on the set or in the background of a film production (e.g. "Day for Night", "Hail Caesar!" and "MaXXXine"). Not to mention movies about fan culture and the joy of watching movies in general (e.g. "Cinema Paradiso").

[@rayne21x]

I wonder if enough titles have been released to warrant CineFix doing a Top 10 Legacy Sequels of all time? At least 20-30 years must have passed between the original and sequel?

[@chadlanc]

It's even better in monochrome

[@chriscollen6543]

If you want to ask who’s this generations Kubrick, ask yourself, “Which director, if he died suddenly tomorrow, would people talk about a conspiracy?”

[@kierenmoore3236]

59:05 … Aliens … ?!!! 🙃

[@mastpg]

Nolan's our Hitchcock. Villeneuve's Kubrick adjacent...maybe.

[@starkparker16]

Repo Man next

[@electricden]

Just a heads up re the original only being a cult classic AFTER the 90s's 'Director's Cut': as a 80s kid too young to see the original theatrical release INCLUDING Harrison Ford's voice over in 81 (I would have been 9) in the UK, the playground word-of-mouth about though was INTENSE, and so variously one-by-one pirated copies of it in various versions, before we all saw it in person on it's TV premiere later in the decade, we're handed around around and discussed amongst us. And the result was: we ALL, with little exception LOVED it, INCLUDING the voice over, which just added to us alongside Vangelis's atmospheric score (SORRY Hans Zimmer, YOU'RE 'Blade Runner 2049' score DOES NOT even COME Close, and I personally felt it the weakest of one of the things about the sequel) to the gritty futuristic 'film-noir' feel (we didn't know about the whole 'cyber punk' thing till WAY later, our references being more from the 2000AD comic). And so, when the OFFICIAL first COMMERCIAL releases became available on VHS, then laser disc, and finally DVD, they were sought out coveted items, which generated the cult which was there BEFORE the 90s Ridley Scott version, and in fact led the groundwork for it's new veneration and final acceptance into the canon of historical sci-fi films, and one UNLIKE Blade Runner 2049, I can go back and happily REWATCH thanks to the 'Final Cut' boxset in ALL it's versions, something I HAVEN'T done with the sequel yet, as I too admire it rather than love it.

[@Ekiboy1]

I see BR2048 I give thumbs up! What an amazing film, one of the best film experiences I have had! Great movie, deserved much more love!

[@alleyeditor]

A nice looking film does not make up for a crap script. Villeneuve completely missed the boat following a Replicant. The best story this could have been was the girl and he spent all of 3 minutes with her.

[@vb2388]

Its not better than the prequel, main reason being their isn’t a convincing antagonist like Roy Batty..

[@amitklain4199]

It's true that Roy Betty is an iconic antagonist but K is a much more interesting protaganist than decker.

[@bootzilla1550]

@@amitklain4199 More interesting? All he does is look stoic for most of the movie. There are no 'tears in the rain' lines or the scenes in Sebastian's apartment. There is not comparison, Batty is iconic and K has nothing to compare to Batty's character.

[@pollutingpenguin2146]

This is one of my all time favourite movies! My top in no particular order: Blade runner 2049 Jurassic park The lost world Contact Aliens Titanic Jo Jo Rabbit Twister Mrs Doubtfire Lord of the Rings trilogy

[@dougim]

Jared Leto was the worst part of this film.

[@mariuszzwolak_]

Sorry Denis' movies are too boring and ugy, except for Sicario for his style it was perfect in every way. Ridley has a lot of redeeming aspects, his movies are crafted to no end, score is amazing there are great moments like tears in rain. You will say wow at some point.

[@DAS_k1ishEe]

If I'd to critizise the movie, the shots before entering Las Vegas are too long for their own good. Everything else is awesome while succesfully creating the Blade Runner vibe from the original. Too many lame ass Sequels/Prequels/Soft Reboots just fail to recreate the atmosphere of the original.

[@tmntvspr]

I won't fight you about anything in the comments! Come at me! Lol

[@sdcraig]

He didn't understand Interstellar? What a thicko.

[@carmawarlock8455]

Interstellar is ass

[@bootzilla1550]

Interstellar is awesome. it's so easy to hate on Nolan for some of these people. And the doofus on the right thinks he knows so much about what it takes to make a film. And no Nolan is not trying to be Villeneuve. Nolan's first film came before the turn of the century and he's been making mind twisting, sci-fi films long before Villeneuve. They are acting like Nolan is M. Nighy Shymalan. Nolan's movies are loved by critics/audience universally. Saying that 'i don't think Nolan is a bad director' like he's some hack is about as shallow as you can be. This Cal guy is an absolute moron.

[@carmawarlock8455]

@bootzilla1550 I don't hate Nolan, just Imterstellar and a couple others. Ya it's kind of lame to say they are copying eachother. Intellectual blockbuster is too broad to be a "style"

[@bootzilla1550]

@@carmawarlock8455 Interstellar is in the top 250 on Letterboxd and IMDB, has 86% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes, won an Oscar for Best Visual Effects. The only thing ass is your opinion/post.

[@carmawarlock8455]

@@bootzilla1550 ok buddy

[@johnnysockhead]

Other movies with loner against the system: Brazil,

[@chrysperera1326]

Not even close to the original…this film is already forgotten whereas the original is an enduring classic listed in the AFI top 100 by the way…

[@carmawarlock8455]

I tend to agree with this. The tears in rain monologue is immortal

[@CptMunta]

Marvel Baybee

[@jessebbedwell]

I completely agree with the mostly negative assessment of Christopher Nolan's films and that The Prestige may be his best film yet. I have always had the impression that Nolan asks the audience questions he already assumes to know the answers to, so his films come off incredibly condescending to me as an audience member. His fascination -- or perhaps his obsession seems to lie in making profound movies, instead of making good or great movies. The suggestion that both he and Kubrick are in equal measure at arms length of their audience is mostly accurate, I think. However, Kubrick's quirks seems to come out of a genuine reclusiveness which finds it diffictlult to access a generosity of spirit due to simple inability to function in public outside of his particular milieu; where as Nolan being a great admirer of Kubrick misinterprets his Kubrick's inability as disdain, which Nolan very much conveys in his filmography. He seems to take a sort of pride in being smarter than the audience, which is what drives his filmography.

[@bootzilla1550]

This is such bullshit and completely incorrect

[@acidgougewaltz]

it's good to see Mike finally discovered the comb...... now if you can convince him not to use the word "like" as every fifth word

[@emikomina]

rip to this channel ever since ign acquired it

[@carmawarlock8455]

What has changed?

[@bootzilla1550]

Dude on the right and the girl for that matter, this is not better than Blade Runner. You're nuts. The girls she doesn't think it's that controversial of a take. Please. It's a good movie but the story is little too long and there is no Roy Batty or Rachael and Gosling isn't Harrison Ford.

[@tankndg26]

Usually. Nice. Story and script a snore bore zzzzzzzzzz😂😂😂😂

[@jasonblankenship5166]

This was a film I did not like. Enjoyed the original, but just bounced off of this one.

[@acapedit]

Great movie. Also too long and completely inconsequential.