One of Us Does NOT Like Kill Bill Vol. 1 | CineFix Top 100

“Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids.”
Kill Bill, the two part revenge epic from Quentin Tarantino, is a bloody, pulpy, pastiche fueled homage to martial arts and spaghetti westerns. But is the story of The Bride and her quest to take out the Deadly Viper Assassination Squad original? Or is it just a greatest hits mix tape of borrowed tropes? Or does that even matter? Clint, Cal and Alex talk about that, plus the proper deployment of bleeps, Samurai honor and an easy Halloween costume.
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[@realDialFforFilm]

I'm currently assisting with teaching an Intro to Film Studies class, and our most recent assignment was genre remakes/reimaginings. I literally had at least 5 different students discuss "Kill Bill Vol. 1" and "Lady Snowblood." This channel has the perfect timing.

[@rational-ec4rk]

Dan is like Columbo's wife. Never visible on screen but always present in spirit..

[@santos8468]

I often wonder if Dan is even a real person.

[@YesterdaysMoose]

For the opening, I was expecting: "Welcome to the CineFix Top 100, where we are scratching off the names 1 by 1 from our list of the Top 100 Greatest Movies of All Time."

[@Summer_Snows]

Alex is so absolutely on point with the fact that so much of what makes this movie good is that the cast is primarily women, because everything Clint says as a negative is 100% correct but is invalidated (imo as a woman) by the fact that the Bride and O-Ren Ishii are the two coolest characters to ever exist

[@christopherelliott1819]

The O-REN sequence feels very personal to what came before in the Crazy 88 sequence and, to me, it’s the greatest transition in film history.

[@allisonbergh4429]

I appreciate that the thoroughness of the bleeping failed at “my name is f*ck” 😂

[@GabrielCortezWrites]

Clint is really committed to hating here

[@BigBird104]

Honestly, kind of refreshing. I love Tarantino. It's nice to hear someone stand on their shit in not liking him.

[@adamrabern3178]

He’s usually a lot better than this.

[@furtherback6131]

​@@adamrabern3178Tarantino or Clint

[@feralmode]

@@BigBird104 I like some of tarantino's movies but kill bill is cheesy AF. 'wiggle your big toe'. I was trying to be engaged but at that point I gave up.

[@RandyWhite-e6t]

@@feralmodestop it it’s not cheesy

[@bucklesisfake]

How Clint feels about Kill Bill here is how I feel about Once Upon a Time In Hollywood

[@tedcook5197]

I always assumed the anime sequence was animated because it would be unfilmable to show that level of violence with a 9yr old actress. Audiences, and the MPAA, would not accept it.

[@theonlymegumegu]

huh, i never thought about that, that's interesting...

[@kelvinlee7506]

20:00 they were talking about bleeps and then missed bleeping Cal's "they're fucking fun". 😂

[@allisonbergh4429]

And “my name is f*ck” 😂😂

[@theonlymegumegu]

i almost thought they were just gonna stop bleeping XD

[@MajorPooper418]

You guys completely missed the fact that Johnny Mo is Kung Fu movie legend Gordon Liu. Dude is Pai Mei in Part 2, one of the reasons why the WuTang Clan is the WuTang. Without whom, we may not even have this amazing soundtrack from the RZA. I would love to hear a podcast where you guys talk about Asian Cinema 🥹

[@tomlotti240]

Recently, Denis Villeneuve was asked about his thoughts on Tarantino not seeing Dune. His response was "Who cares?", which apparently made the crowd react positively. I like some of his movies, and KB was a lot of fun (Uma Thurman as action star really worked). But QT seems like the guy that likes to let people know he has personality, and is "into" cool stuff. And it does seep into his movies, which can be off putting. Liked the discussion.

[@mikhail5428]

*20:00** The fact that they let a Fcking without bleeping after saying that the bleepings are fun, is a great edit*

[@adamsarmiento909]

I love that while talking about bleeps they gave up on it.

[@PapaCoco1128]

Considering Clint’s feelings towards dialogue and characterization in this movie, I’d love to hear these three talk about Mad Dog Time (1996), a famously bad crime movie where everyone talks the same and acts the same 😆

[@blinkeminem182]

Can we get your letterboxd names ? 😊

[@realPlinkett]

Please! I've looked for Cal's too many times.

[@stirwoodcraft]

I regularly laugh out loud, a rare thing for watching KZbin videos.

[@deepcutfilm]

It's funny 'cos I agree with Clint on the cringiness of Tarantino putting '4th Film by Quentin Tarantino' in the credits, bleeping The Bride's name, etc. - these things and other bits have always bugged me about the film too, but at the same time the stuff that works for me REALLY works. Just off the top of my head: when Uma wakes up from her coma and realises her baby's gone, that shit gets me every time; the fight with O-Ren (the music is perrrrrrrrfect); the lovely moment where she looks over the swords (yeah okay, bit icky that they're weapons, but the idea of entering some sort of shrine or mecca and being in awe really hits). And that Anime sequence is fantastic. I remember seeing the film in the cinema and one of my friends was like "worst film I've ever seen", whereas it always clicked with me, and I think a lot of that was to do with me being brought up on video games and this just scratching some particular sort of itch for me, which is also why I've always preferred it over Part 2. So I do agree with a lot of Clint's bugbears about it, but I also just really love it like Alex and Cal.

[@Deraphim]

I get what Clint’s saying. There’s a reason I never rewatch part 2 and I always come back to part 1, and that’s probably because they talk a lot more in 2 and I don’t like how the dialogue is written (also his objectively wrong Superman opinions) But man, part 1 is just too damn fun and it’s really too bad Clint can’t appreciate that.

[@RandyWhite-e6t]

It was off base then and off base now, which I think is the point. A guy like Bill is obsessed with power and dominance for selfish purposes, so to him the concept of someone born with incredible power choosing to live humbly and benevolently rather than abuse that power can’t be because they’re just a good person with good morals, it has to be so they can demonstrate their contempt for weakness. Take Pai Mei and Bill for example, though neither are examples of good, they’re examples of power in different forms. Pai Mei lived in his temple in his traditional garb, living a simple life practising kung fu and eating good old rice, living very modestly, yet when he and Bill meet in Kill Bill 2 he kicks Bills ass effortlessly (though off screen). For someone who looks and dresses like a simple old Chinese man he demonstrated incredible power and dominance without difficulty. Bill on the other hand, all flash and performance. He never handled the Brides assassination himself, he had his Deadly Vipers beat her, a pregnant woman, senseless in the church, and only when she was too weak to fight back he shot her in the head like an animal, not even letting her respond to him properly before doing so. Then when she was in hospital years later, he had Elle Driver almost poison her only to call it off with some bullshit reasoning about how he won’t dishonour her that way. Every member of the Deadly Viper Assassination Squad the Bride fights head on, with the exception of Bud who admittedly got the drop on her, but the point is she fought face on with honour against dishonourable people. Bill exploited her child in front of her to get her to drop her guard, then before she could attack him he shot her with the dart gun and paraded over her with his ideas of power and the nature of humanity, again only in a position where he could ensure he wouldn’t lose by disabling her. The real telling quality of his attitude is when he inspects her sword, and when the Bride kills Bill with the Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique. His first reaction is complete shock, asking her, “Pai Mei taught you the Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique?” As if he couldn’t believe it. Why would Pai Mei teach the FPPEHT to her? What’s so special about her or what she fights for? How could Pai Mei, who so easily beat Bill, teach her this ultimate technique? What was so special about her that Hattori Hanzo forged her the greatest sword in all the world? Pai Mei and the Bride demonstrated power through their actions, with humble goals. Pai Mei was a teacher of an old way of fighting, and the Bride was a mother who wanted revenge for what she thought was the death of her child. “A teacher and a mother, what’s so special about them?” Bill though, Snake Charmer himself, he’s all about outward performance rather than action. A mononym for a name, a theatrical alias, control over a deadly group of assassins he himself assigns theatrical codenames to, who kill for him rather than get his own hands dirty, how could he not see himself as above the common man by sheer right? And so, how could he not see Superman’s life as Clark Kent as anything more than a mockery of what Bill perceives as humanity, something he feels above? Bill never showed any real humanity or compassion that didn’t get him something in life, and yet he was finally defeated and proven wrong by a woman fighting for the most human reason of all: love. So all in all he was wrong, but the reasons he was wrong are reflective of his character and IMO really strong writing This is from Reddit

[@RandyWhite-e6t]

As others have mentioned, Bill is quite evil, by almost any definition. He can't help but think that there's got to some kind of scam to what Superman does, because kindness and empathy don't exist for Bill. It's simple enough to disprove Bill's argument, in that the person Bill is describing isn't someone who just goes out and does good for free. Bill's Superman doesn't like humanity and as such would not selflessly save them; he might be superhuman, but he isn't a, much less THE, super-hero. Bill literally CAN'T understand Superman, really. This is another comment from Reddit

[@MikMortsllak]

1:07:44 No Furiosa ? Time for a riot 😈 😄 Great discussion.

[@GodlessG0D]

There's a lot of other elements to it, but if you're not a fan of '70s Asian action cinema, you can't fully appreciate how amazingly fantastic Kill Bill is.

[@paradisecity0406able]

That anime section though...

[@ckellyedits]

Yeah it is SO far away from "cool for being cool", it absolutely fits the narrative needs of the scene. Clint's hatred is so misplaced

[@calebirvin6494]

One of my favorite things is hearing a compelling case against something I love. Clint makes a ton of great points against this movie but it really works for me because it feels like the most quintessential Tarantino movie. I think Clint dislikes it for the same reason and I get that

[@KHWADI]

Because of Kill Bill, I discovered Sex and Fury (1973) a must-see for fans of exploitation cinema.

[@michaelbonet9062]

One thing about this film’s tonal shifts is that seems to me to be because it’s a mish-mash of homages to old samurai and kung fu films. Tarantino is sharing all of these great moments from films the majority of Americans may not have ever seen. It’s all sorts of Asian film styles smashed into one film, unlike his other films, which are more tonally consistent because they don’t need to make references since American audiences would be more familiar with them. We know WW 2 films, we know crime films, etc.

[@acidgougewaltz]

i love this movie.... but i grew up on the old channel 66 samurai sunday ninja movies. shaw brothers. loved that stuff. knew that when this was being made that QT knew and loved that stuff too. was hoping this would be that. it wasn't. some parts of this i absolutely love..... some parts.... or some decisions within parts..... not so much the movie i was looking for would eventually be RZA's Man With The Iron Fists. I'm nearing 50 and I still adore that whole style and aesthetic of those old kung fu movies. especially the 5 venoms era

[@mcgarnagle6102]

The purpose of a movie is to entertain and Kill Bill is very entertaining.

[@RandyWhite-e6t]

Nope not all movies need to be entertaining for example Schindler’s list is one of the finest movies ever and no one was entertained by it

[@matthewpaul6904]

My wife and I started going out in 2002 and we've seen pretty much every movie that came out in the early to mid 2000s. This one is easily in the top 10 flicks we saw.

[@RandyWhite-e6t]

What’s the top 10?

[@AkiVainio]

Considering the very subjective nature of the list, I do feel Alex should pull the "girl card" more often. Yes, you can like movies based on your identity.

[@ShineOnYouCD]

You can relate to a movie in any way, including gender.

[@alexandercain8904]

20:00 "Bleeps are fucking fine" ~unbleeped

[@SteveBluescemi]

Kill Bill Vol.1 is maybe the singularly most *entertaining* film ever. The only other movie that comes to mind for me is Raiders of the Lost Ark. I couldn't stop laughing the first time I saw it -- it's a really funny film! So over the top, campy, and ridiculous. Whereas Clint experiences this as "Tarantino smelling his own farts", I experience it as being in on the joke. As a fan of film and music, I sometimes like to find parallels between movies and albums. For Kill Bill fans, I recommend Mr. Bungle's California as a companion piece. It's similarly eclectic and cartoonish, yet also a completely brilliant masterpiece.

[@hannes10001]

Oh it’s my number 1!

[@ReverendMeat51]

Clint is completely right but I can't not love this movie still. Uma Thurman and Lucy Liu are just so cool. Great soundtrack too

[@jasonmccrory]

Missed a bleep during the bleep discussion.

[@ckellyedits]

They missed 3, it's so stupid to even attempt

[@artandcard]

"It's goin'." It's a response I have begun using myself.

[@LynnHermione]

If you dislike this movie why are you on an episode discussing it.

[@arronmackinnon6027]

This might be the first one where I actively disagree with Clint's take. Usually I agree with his taste, but not so much this time

[@popdebris]

48:37 Alex with the “This is how he wins”.

[@davidnavarro5398]

I like Vol. 2 more. It’s more about emotion and character, which is rare in a Tarantino movie. To me is his second best film so far.

[@tim_brooks]

KILL BILL is one movie.

[@tim_brooks]

and it’s my all-time favorite movie.

[@neo_bellic]

tell that to the home video distribution companies

[@liulingling88]

This whole season feels like Alex against these two weirdos.

[@santos8468]

Toy Story is "alone against the world" because Woody's popularity status changes when Buzz enters into the film.

[@jacobjhall1974]

7:49 Kill Bill Vol 1 is pretty much a remake of the film Lady Snowblood and it’s VERY much like the movie.

[@travispollett2120]

100% agree with Clint on this movie. This is the movie that made me dislike Tarantino. Inglorious Basterds brought me back a bit but I still can’t stand this.

[@ramonaflowers2813]

I love Martial arts movies I grew upon it and when I showed my neuce this who hates martial arts and anime she loved this.

[@lillithdv8]

I love this movie and the soundtrack slaps

[@starkparker16]

Repo Man next week.

[@pamelamatos2824]

Do we have a list to see all the movies on the top so far?

[@carlostalavera9030]

They're in the description

[@VacFink]

I would like to see EO on this season's list along with György Fehér's Twilight (Original title: Szürkület) perfect alone against the world themes IMO.

[@gildacosta3185]

I agree with Clint 100% on this one

[@travisspaulding5835]

Missed a few bleeps in there 😂

[@A_M_Bobb]

I'm with Clint on this. Tarantino from this point on becomes that insufferable film school nerd that feels that homage = depth. Love that other people love it but yeah. Irks me too.

[@GMrDrew]

I thought the name bleep was, for the sake of the credits, to credit Uma to be playing The Bride, paying homage to the source material before revealing her name in the sequel. If it was Tarantino's intent to credit the source-and-titular character to Uma Thurman, then bleeping the name is necessary or else the credits would read her being credited to playing Beatrix Kiddo instead of The Bride. . And yes, Tarantino it's cool for artistically expressing accreditation. He knew he would credit Uma Thurman playing several character names in the sequel.

[@SteveBluescemi]

True, but then he simply could have written it so that they don't say her name out loud at all

[@theonlymegumegu]

funny, I'm sorta with clint on this one. it's a little extra ironic for me as i *am* a fan of kung fu flicks. when kill Bill first came out, i think everyone in my social group was sure I'd love the film. and i don't think i disliked it right away, though i think i was mostly caught up in the hype and popularity at the time. but i know for sure as time has gone on I've realized i don't like the movie all that much. maybe not for the same reasons as clint, i think i can appreciate "cool for cool's sake" like alex and cal can, but i think for me it ends up being that the movie pastiches it's inspirations so closely that it just makes me want to watch the originals more. also, I'm not a huge fan of uma Thurman.

[@DrDiscourse]

Clint is my friend in this discussion. I fully agree with him on every point. I loved Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs with all the attitude and style. It worked so well there. From Kill Bill on, especially with his newer movies, Quentin went all out on attitude and people who like thst LOVES his movies. The rest of us went on to find someone else to look up to. :-)

[@ChunAsperEndao]

I'm very late to the episode, but I was delighted to hear Clint repping my dislike for this movie, especially considering that I was a freshman in college when it came out, so I had to deal with both my old high school friends and my new college friends telling me that I HAD to watch it because it was the greatest movie ever made. "Quentin Tarantino is a GENIUS!" they said. "He scored a SAMURAI FIGHT with FLAMENCO MUSIC! No one in the history of cinema has done anything so creative!" And there I was, at eighteen years old, feeling alone against the world as I asked, "Is that really creative, or is that just mashing two different things together because you're desperate to look cool?"

[@RandyWhite-e6t]

Is was really creative

[@ShineOnYouCD]

I wonder what category Pulp Fiction will fall under.

[@ablazedark]

01:02:41, oohh pulling a todd howard there!

[@Mohamed-lv5yw]

I agreed with Alex 20 years ago when I watched the DVD of this but now that I've gotten older, 20 years later, I side with Clint. I don't enjoy smelling his own farts Quintin era that this film launched into.

[@ChunAsperEndao]

I'm actually kind of sour about Kill Bill's popularity, because I think it's immediate predecessor, Jackie Brown, demonstrated how good Tarantino could be when he was a little restrained. But that one didn't do well and Kill Bill was a smash hit, so Hollywood pretty much committed to indulging all of his base impulses from that point forward.

[@trent504]

I️ was enjoying this video but the guy with the blue sweater seem to come of sarcastic in a negative way too much while reviewing. We get it, you don’t like the movie lol

[@Ledpooplin55]

Its so corny to point out Tarantino is influenced by other movies. Like, how'd you figure that out? Did you listen to him talk for 5 seconds? Or do you know a college freshman who is entering his 'Jackie Brown is the best Tarantino movie' phase?

[@michaelbonet9062]

It’s weird that Clint likes Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs for their uniqueness and how they do something different, but he dislikes Kill Bill, which has the same qualities.

[@SteveBluescemi]

​@@True-Fauxeveryone talks the same in Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction too

[@blackwavearcade3ms]

It's alright. I remember my friends and I loving part one when it came out and all equally hating part two. Super stylized which is cool but lacks any real substance beyond that. One of my least favourites of his.

[@jacobjhall1974]

Why do you guys bleep some of the f-bombs and not the others lol

[@saranonimus9211]

I got to rewatch these movies recently with a friend who had never seen them, and we both enjoyed Vol I more than Vol II because of the pacing. Also for me, when I saw Vol II the first time, I rooted for Beatrix and cheered her victory, but this time, I found it really gutting that she kills the father of her child, who for better or worse had been the central character in BeBe's life, then the film treats it like it's no big deal. Having that at the end of the saga sours the whole experience for me, sadly.

[@DrMarioMorales]

Clint’s apathy for this movie ruined some of my experience watching this video. I think most people disagree with his opinion.

[@Aibheaog]

Bless you, Clint

[@furtherback6131]

I too do not particularly like Kill Bill. Seen it multiple times, just too over the top for me to feel anything at all.

[@christopherlee2515]

How can you forget Bill’s Superman speech?

[@jessebbedwell]

That would be Vol. 2 😊

[@DrDiscourse]

I LOVED every movie he made before Kill Bill, but the movie is so obnoxious and style over substance. Never liked it and never learned to.

[@JB-pf9hf]

Hey cal. Why don’t you engage. Look at your laptop a bit more.

[@marypalmer8223]

Am with Clint here - didn't hate the Kill Bills, but didn't love them. Never was a martial arts film fan, and the blood here was too over the top to be affecting.

[@jamesadams1698]

Well, the blood spray is supposed to be ludicrous, I think, and also an homage to samurai bloodbaths like Lone wolf and Cub and, well, Lady Snowblood. I also didn't love it, in part because I got a lot of the references. It started to feel more like a collage than a film.

[@jammysmears4077]

Yep. I hated this movie.

[@lylearoyii]

You're not alone Clint! You're not alone! I love Quintin and his movies, but I just don't care for, nor have I fully watched KB 1 & 2. Fell asleep during inglorious bastards.

[@Tonberry2k]

Clint is correct. 🤘🤘🤘

[@Zed-fq3lj]

Kill Bill (it's one movie, stop calling it I & II, even Tarantino considers it to be one movie) is the Weakest, the most Overrated Tarantino's movie and it DOESN'T deserve a spot in top 300, let alone top 100! CineFix discussion was fun and good though, as always 🙂

[@Mithrandir39]

I agree with Clint. Tarantino definitely went down hill starting with this movie

[@ablazedark]

this movie really does not deserve this much talk. it is just a mindless mediocre action movie.

[@TJMiton]

This movie IS good, but it's very far from QT's best. It would certainly not make my top 100. PS: This is not a top 5 Tarantino movie lol...

[@lloydrodriguez9969]

I love Kill Bill. As a fan of old martial arts movie, this takes so many of the various genres cliches and tropes and makes it one cohesive package that is leagues above the movies it took expiration from in terms of polish and production. Also, Clint saying the movie is obnoxious and saying he didn’t like the movie because he doesn’t like Tarantino is obnoxious. Kill Bill is my second favorite Tarantino movie this side of Pulp Fiction and it’s a perfect action film that does so much but somehow feels perfect in pace and execution.

[@logancoleman3915]

Lady Snowblood > Kill Bill

[@MDelorean]

I've recently discovered this podcast and it's been great so far. This one not so much, especially the amount of shitheaping. If you don't like it you don't have to grasp each opportunity to make that clear. Yes, the title card is obnoxious but so is the whole movie. I'm glad that in the end it was a bit more nuanced, but the first part felt like hating for the sake of it. I listen to these podcasts to hear new stuff and learn about a film, not to hear someone repeatedly make the same point why they dislike the director's choices. But like I said, this is an outlier, the previous ones were really fun to listen to! And 2/3 of this one was too, so overall it was still worth listening to until the end.

[@julius-stark]

Given Kill Bill has risen in the ranks to become my favorite movie (I consider v1 and v2 as one movie), I do not appreciate this slander. All the negatives mentioned are all the things I think make it unique and special. I get it though, I'm not the hugest fan of Christopher Nolan but I know plenty of people who love Interstellar where I find it to be just OK so I get it.

[@MartialArtsFilmFreak]

Am I the one that doesn’t like it? It used to be a joke among friends but I’ve grown to passionately dislike this movie.

[@XenosKB]

I'm so glad Clint was here to say this because I totally agree. Tarantino is brilliant, but so many little things about him and his choices rub me the wrong way. I'll still enjoy his films, but they never make it on any of my lists.

[@ckellyedits]

Bleeping the curses is so stupid btw you've missed a ton in this episode. Just stop it, we're not children and this isn't TV. Also I cannot get behind Clint's opinions here at all. Hate Tarantino all that you like but attack the film for the film, not the person behind it

[@_MC529]

Really not a particulary good movie. I'm with Clint on this one.

[@Zed-fq3lj]

absolutely agree!

[@Frog_Puppet]

It has some great elements and I respect the idea, but it is just a bit too silly. The insistance on showing uma thurman's feet is weird too.

[@ashergreen3356]

Same.

[@adamrabern3178]

You must not like Quentin Tarantino either. If you don’t like this movie that you don’t like Quentin You and Clint belong together

[@_MC529]

@adamrabern3178 I enjoy some of them. Pulp Fiction, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Some others are mediocre. Some are a bit boring. Never seen a full on stinker by him, though.

[@adamrabern3178]

Clint. I just got to say you lost a whole lot of cool points on your comments on this movie. You probably should’ve called out sick on this one too

The most overrated piece of garbage to ever stain the silver screen!

[@davidbrown9414]

It's not good

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below average overrated movie.

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If you don’t like this movie, then you don’t like Quentin Tarantino. So just go on down the road