How AI Killed the Internet

[@CircleToonsHD]

be real with me RIGHT THE FUCK NOW... what is the most wild AI thing youve ever seen?

[@Kulkogo]

Mark Zuckerberg trying to be human

[@daangoes121]

A gorilla and a human having 5 human-gorilla hybrid children. Every day we stray further from Gods light

[@donkeykonglover32]

my school used AI art to advertise an art class. I've always wanted to learn art but in that moment I doubted everything 😭

[@Cregentix]

So many of these comments are gonna get removed lol

[@tempers_vr]

skbidi toilets edging to cameraman

[@lukethemankey3522]

Remember that episode of SpongeBob where he was in a duel with Poseidon? And in the time it took SpongeBob to make a single Krabby Patty, Poseido had already made a mountain of them? And then all of his patties tasted horrible, only for SpongeBob's one patty to be truly amazing?

[@xxxxxxxxxx166]

Trueeee

[@SieMiezekatze]

SpongeBob is based

[@joanpalomaresjunquera2327]

Yeah but there will come a day when Poseidon’s burgers become as good as Spongebob’s and he can do it as quick, Ai is improving way too fast sadly or goodly whatever your point of view may be

[@millis6054]

…., holy shit I didn’t even think of it that way. I doubt they were trying to but they definitely called it.

[@mekingtiger9095]

Glad I'm not the only one to remember that and draw the comparison.

[@oldoutlet6946]

Genuinely the worst part is the general population isn't concerned. The only people who actually care are those who are most effected by it (writers, visual artists, musicians, etc). Businesses will keep using them because its impossible not to in this competitive landscape, genuine art will be thrown to the wayside in favor of efficiency, and the average person will be for it because now they have access to "talents" and "skills" that they don't have to put effort towards.

[@geefreck]

I believe it's a tad split among the general population. Some are concerned, some aren't. I worked a retail job until very recently. Conversations all day around TVs and electronics. People's opinions were different. Couldn't give you a ratio, but there are a lot of everyday people who don't want AI around in their lives.

[@user-zi8lg5qu1h]

I am a programmer and while ai does that job really poorly rn it will get to a point where it will be able to write perfect code and I am all for it, coding is a tool to create things you thought of, and avrage programmer is not innovativing anything he is using tools that were made by other people ages ago as building blocks and mostly anyone could do it if they have a knack for it (some people find it hard to grasp and manage) and took the time to learn how to use those tools effectively. But why, that profession is only necessary because because the skill isn't easily accessible, it doesn't take creativity and innovation unless it is at the top level, and personally I think that it would be selfish to say that I don't want everyone else to be able to create their vision if they don't have to pay someone like me to do it for them. I am not artistical but I would like to have th ability to create a picture of a scene I thought of in my head

[@user-zi8lg5qu1h]

Also when robots start advancing mostly all job will be filled by them and while capitalism won't make any sense anymore and there will be a new system, it is a beautiful thing, one day maybe noone will have to convert hours of their life into money

[@dirak418]

My dream world is one where I can make my own music, my own books, my own movies, and keep them to myself. No more need of anyone else.

[@whitenightmare4426]

oh boy, they'll start to care... just think about how the economy could collapse at any moment because more people have less jobs or when they discover AI technology does real damage to the planet (in a literal sense, mainly in water resources) and can literally accelerate ambiental impacts they'll probably care not because of other people suffering, but fearing they will start to suffer too

[@pomodoko]

Somebody said this very well: "You didn't put any care into your work, so why should I care to read it?"

[@musicdev]

I’m stealing the hell out of this

[@dwyanecelestial7354]

​@@musicdevSame but I think it's more like, helping it spread!

[@wholesand]

misread "somebody" as "spongebob" and tried to think of the episode spongebob said that

[@Lateornever]

Yeah, I saw the quote "if it wasn't worth writing then it isn't worth reading" about AI books and articles.

[@RepublicOfVanuatu]

@@musicdev lmfaoo you didnt put any work into writing a thing so why should anyone car to read the stolen piece

[@LegoAnimations6370]

This Christmas I had a Christmas card in a mail. At first it looked like a genuine classic Christmas card, but when I took a closer look at a reindeer on that card, I saw a pair of extra limbs...an AI generated image. Christmas spirit was ruined.

[@سباك-ش7ق]

Omg

[@kirbylover2.038]

:(

[@directionsmogeset]

Wow christimas spirit being ruined over an image

[@TTVMaldrix]

@@directionsmogeset yeah I love when I get a Christmas card that has AI art because it shows someone put effort to type two words into a Generative AI bot instead of take the picture in real life or draw it themselves! use your brain man, it ruined the spirit because it's a sign of it affecting the real world for the worse

[@directionsmogeset]

@TTVMaldrix you know ai can be good in hospitals, ive seen a post about an ai that detected breast cancer before it developed

[@pingu9656]

The “good old internet” came to an end when community driven platforms stopped sorting contents by recency.

[@Matt_From_2006_Game_Wii_Sports]

That's a genuinely interesting way to look at it!

[@GoofyGoober-m8r]

@@Matt_From_2006_Game_Wii_Sports reddit for example is just another facebook, but users are acting like it is somehow different

[@lollybowser]

Also when social media started focusing on advertising

[@droycon]

That’s why I like tumblr

[@alexjustalexyt1144]

that and when normies came in and internet culture was changed because the normies outnumbered the people using the internet. I remember a time where stealing content was heavily scrutinized and could actually be somewhat enforced

[@Augustghost]

The worst part of ai getting better is how easy it will be to make fake stuff and make it harder to know if something is real or not

[@Kutomi1]

At some point we really should just take the Dune route

[@HakuZaku]

Confuse the masses They must never find out

[@joanpalomaresjunquera2327]

I already got fooled once

[@GeorgeEgroed-e7f]

Yea , thats the reason i fear i would flee the internet at some point. Because , when misinformation and fake stuff are so widespread , whats even the point? Even if the internet is my second home.

[@ChutesNquackas]

IS THIS REAL?!

[@Chaosbean-1443]

It hurts especially that I can't even trust my own eyes anymore. Pictures aren't always worth words, and seeing to believe isn't foolproof anymore. Its scary, man.

[@wesnohathas1993]

It really sucks. Tech bros went and poisoned the well and now the internet is damn-near useless at providing the information that gave it its very purpose. This is why we can't have nice things. Only took about two generations for humanity to bring about the downfall of one of its greatest creations.

[@buycraft911miner2]

*only images are now not trustable. ​text is still the same, the content may or may not be true, but it was like that before AI as well. @@wesnohathas1993

[@daviddunkelheit9952]

@@Chaosbean-1443 we need to use our other senses to make a go of the world now. I use my touch, smell

[@greg77389]

It's not that bad. Most of the videos I watch aren't AI. Who gives af if there are a bunch of bots in the comments anyway. AI isn't even good enough to make the Dead Internet Theory a reality because of auto-regression, which can already be seen in many instances, making it obvious some content is AI generated.

[@equidistanthoneyjoy7600]

It cuts both ways, too. Not only could someone trick you with a fake image, but someone could trick you by claiming a real image has been faked. I've already seen people claim that photo evidence of something that definitely happened was AI, and likely soon with video as well. Eventually, you won't be able to trust any recorded information at all, everything is either stuff you directly witnessed or hearsay like in the 1800's.

[@AnnikaVictoria24]

I was really sad to hear when my local council library decided to use AI art on their website and promotional material instead of hiring local artists. This motivates me to do more about it than just be sad!!!

[@TheSpeep]

A library is one of those places that really shouldnt be putting forward this garbage, ever. The whole point of a library is to be a stockpile of human works available for everyone to access. Generative ai flies directly in the face of all of that.

[@TimSmith-s2x]

⁠@@TheSpeep True, but there is the question as to if or how a local library can support local artists. Depending on where you are, in many places library budgets have faced continuous cuts, both to staff and stock. Where can a library get the funds to support the hiring of local creatives? Some hold competitions but these take time and energy and and of themselves to set up and run. That is always the challenge, to both provide the regular book library services but also the community based ones as well. Now, there are many hardworking and creative members of staff who contribute to making the library a welcoming and lively place and sometimes members of the public are willing to volunteer their time and creative energies as well. But so long as governments (local or national) see libraries as some quaint, or even archaic, space that in their minds can survive with a few thousands to even millions cut from the budget, how can libraries still try and provide services without succumbing to using AI to save some time?

[@TheSpeep]

@TimSmith-s2x Well first of all, we could start by diverting some the literal billions being thrown at ai development that serves literally nobody to funding shit people actually need. But as far as the library itself goes, yeah, just hold a contest for local artists, yes thats work, but thats how art is.

[@TimSmith-s2x]

@@TheSpeep you aren’t going to find me disagreeing with the idea. The fact that in some countries even $1 billion just going into libraries would increase budgets by hundreds of percent just shows how much they have to get by on now. As for contests, agreed more is good, but again there needs to be time and even funds for such things. For instance, how to advertise a contest, since that in an of itself requires creative involvements unless one uses AI, which defeats the purpose.

[@TheSpeep]

@TimSmith-s2x If you want a cheaper solution, they could work together with the local grade school. Have the kids work on a banner in their art classes. You wont get some kind of high art out of it, but itll get the kids in touch with the library, which seems like a good thing to me, because some of them will want to see their work displayed, and its basically free. My school used to do similar stuff related to traffic and the likes.

[@NorthoftheBorder]

I often think, 'I'm safe from the AI art hellscape cause I make physical 3d versions of Shrek and Mike kissing! AI doesn't have hands!" then I upload the video to KZbin and my three dimensional work is rendered in two dimensions with an easily replicated voice and... Oh damn...

[@forgottenone2454]

The horror... We sorry that someone already did this, this is NOT the purpose AI was needed to be used for. But... Knowing how much the company that created AI don't care about creativity and steal everything (Not AI itself, but corporate brat and they products), it's only a matter of time, when all creativity dry down into a sink, and i DON'T WANT IT!

[@the-admiral-main]

its a shame no body recognize northortheborder

[@justinasherrill7289]

I know right? It’s such a shame

[@JamesTDG]

Even as a pixel artist, I know my position will only last as long as people don't wise up to what makes pixel art good and train AI on those specific characteristics.

[@JamesTDG]

@@the-admiral-main I did, but I prefer not to act all fanboyish, and just treat users I may look up to as equals.

[@Gam3Junkie7]

Thanks to AI, Google Docs is utterly useless for grammar and spellchecking because their AI can't even spell or recognize context errors when old Microsoft Word, circa 2013, could do all of that WITHOUT a massive data-crunching framework.

[@mebreevee]

Only downside is word costs money :(

[@billnocolis9368]

@@mebreeveenot if you sail the 7 seas

[@mebreevee]

@@billnocolis9368 fair

[@Sonario648]

@@mebreevee LibreOffice:

[@Mac_Omegaly]

It's hilarious that I can use a Google search for spell check when Google Docs has no recommendations. 😅 But it's as easy as opening a new tab, and dropping the abomination of my poor spelling into the search with the one context word and get instant results.

[@Mediachi04]

The internet nowadays is that one SpongeBob episode where SpongeBob becomes paranoid believing that everyone is a robot.

[@Polaricey123]

The robots have taken over the Navy!

[@chacarroner]

​@@Polaricey123NOT THE NAVY!!!!

[@SieMiezekatze]

Episode name ? Season?

[@EatLeadClankers]

@@SieMiezekatze”Krab Borg”; Season 3, Episode 9A

[@TheBattleRabbit860]

A mix of that and Doddlebob

[@rollinrandy4079]

"The genuine reward of effort, has been replaced with the fleeting satisfaction of quick results" Goes so fucking hard. Life quote right here!

[@ZaneLittle]

Mann vs. Machine

[@LessSleepy]

Yo hop on 2 cities I dare you

[@OfficialPatrickStar]

This made me genuinely chuckle. Take this updoot.

[@alekzomer]

MOTHERFUCKER WE ARE ALREADY ON WAVE 666

[@Fatih_M177]

Heavy hates Robots. Except the ones made by Engineer, He is credit to team!

[@RStheToon]

here come the spies!

[@BladedEdge]

The internet used to be exciting and fun. Then social media platforms came, and the internet became just seven websites. Now those websites don't even have humans talking most of the time.

[@bombombalu]

The "old" internet still exists. You just don't bother looking anymore.

[@eeveeofalltrades4780]

​@@bombombaluprobably because looking for it is hard and like walking into a hacker trap.

[@Interdacted]

Or becomes echo chambers

[@Romanticoutlaw]

once upon a time, I consumed books voraciously. Then they invented a version of the internet that was cool. And now the internet sucks again and I have to go back to books

[@shanjishou]

​@@bombombalucould you helps us to find some websites niche website you or way to find of old internet where things. Are always seen as happening . Sorry I don't have intelligence to know or I am just in echo chamber of confirmation bias

[@T.TerryThePenguin-wz5lq]

There are three sides of AI 1: people use AI for misinformation 2: people use AI just for fun 3: people use AI to make slop (credits to PK-Radio)

[@PK-Radio]

What about people who use it to make slop content

[@Reekloose]

Isn't that three sides?

[@feritye767]

what about using ai to get answers to questions, using ai to replace human jobs, using ai to make stuff in general that isn't misinformation

[@trainerkam3218]

​@feritye767 The issue with the latter is that based on how generative AI works, misinfo is baked into it. If someone asks an AI to summarize an article, and the AI hallucinates a detail, then it can potentially invalidate the whole article. Not to mention people summarizing articles that were summarized with AI, introducing even more errors. At the moment, you still need to verify everything an AI model puts out, especially generative AI models

[@AndrewDavidJ]

And every one of those sides obliterates our rainforests and ecosystem.

[@jsomeone3]

My biggest fear with AI was that it “outsources” the act of thinking and communicating. It will eliminate functions that once were stepping stones for understanding people, a business, a process, or a topic. The future will be a bunch of mentally weak people getting direction and social queues from something that requires a subscription.

[@antigonus1826]

There’s a bit of a high level conceptualization here. Imagine, for a second, John and Bob. John works for everything, writes everything, does his job. Bob uses ChatGPT to make hundred of nonsense papers. The Standard for employees would be very high in an AI world that realistically John will overwork himself trying to make something real, while bob is sitting on his ass. The stress that John gets and lack of time would impact his health, ability to start a family and have offspring. John dies before he has a family, Bob doesn’t overwork himself, or really work at all much and is able to have offspring. In such an environment, hard workers and thinkers would genetically become more and more extinct.

[@BedsheetGhost_]

I crave a world where the number of daily Newgrounds accounts registered is beating that of twitter.

[@holopeve]

Wish granted, Newgrounds gets flooded by bots

[@pikminplays]

BED SHEET GHOST YOUR HERE???

[@falloutboy1379]

Probably gonna happen real soon

[@yaplo3774]

If it does, it's gonna come with the bots sadly 😔

[@mysticpeanutbutterNumbaOne]

@@holopeve one finger of the monkey paw curls in a slow, fading creak.

[@crocketbox4979]

I'm in high school. What I hate most about this rise of AI is that my peers don't write their own essays anymore. They just ask chat GPT to "write me an essay" and it's done in no time. What's worse is that the teachers don't catch it 100% of the time. It's not just the internet that's changing, people are straight up refusing to learn because the shortcut is right there at the push of a button.

[@mebreevee]

I use chatgpt to help me write essays, but not in a literal way. I ask it to help me put information I already gathered into an outline, and sometimes have it help me paraphrase things when I can’t think of a different way to say a thing. It could be a helpful tool, but like with most things, there will be those who abuse it. Those people make a bad rap for the people who use it honestly as an assist, rather than have it do the work for them.

[@Mr.Splatchy]

@@mebreevee At the end, Ai become useful only as a tool, but should be stop before its too late

[@theSixPathsOfTrains]

As my mother has told me "the world is getting wiser but weaker"

[@trainerkam3218]

​@@mebreeveeI feel like the act of putting the information into a coherent order and learning of new ways to paraphrase is an important part of writing essays. I know chatgpt can help with brainstorming and gathering ones thoughts, but I feel like solely relying on generative AI to do that step of the writing process is a hindrance for developing good writing.

[@rundown132]

Lmao it'll only bite them in the rear in the future

[@oafkad]

The Dead Internet was an inevitability of being ad driven. Every single thing that is ad driven just falls apart and turns to shit. It is inescapable.

[@joelrobinson5457]

Weirdly, ads are only getting less and less effective, mainly because of themselves, everyone wants you to see their product as best, so you just don't trust their claims, they wanted to grab your attention so they made them weird to stand out, now so many are so utterly bizzare they mean nothing anymore, Its eating itself alive and everyone it's being fueled by with it, it's actually really counterintuitive, you want to buy something? Ads for that thing either get ignored, or actively drive you away from it, when did anyone actually buy something from a youtube ad? Instead of just getting mildly annoyed, and ignoring it then skipping it, no one even remembers them,

[@RepublicOfVanuatu]

so you like communism

[@mekingtiger9095]

Case in point: KZbin post Adpocalypse.

[@vibevizier6512]

Yup ​@@RepublicOfVanuatu

[@Alloveck]

@joelrobinson5457 Very true. The harder advertisers advertise, the less effective ads become. If there's any good end to the current trends with Ai and advertising, it'd be AIs that actually understand what you are truly in the market for, and thereby limit ads to a far smaller amount, but that final curated amount is ads that are actually relevant to you. I think that would be better not just for users, but also advertisers themselves. One ad seen by a person it matters to has got to be a better return on investment than thousands just blindly shoveled into a hurricane.

[@he.art.]

You actually managed to make a whole video just to show off a picture of Shrek and Mike you made. This needs more love

[@chaosXP3RT]

I now understand why AI is banned in Warhammer 40k

[@LordCrate-du8zm]

Praise the Omnissiah.

[@daviddunkelheit9952]

@@chaosXP3RT it would be the Warp and path to Heresy and Chaos resurfacing

[@kreiskhaos8516]

AI is the chaos of the Warp made manifest in our own world.

[@Buggenator]

"Courage and honor!"

[@Maxisamo1]

Abominable Intelligence

[@Josephsflock]

It’s funny how chatGPT answers questions so well but the answers are so often just wrong. Any time I ask a niche question that any field expert would know, ChatGPT tells me very confidently the wrong answer, and if I ask the same question again I get a different wrong answer

[@alvinvalentino5797]

Unless it's very specific that even legitimate websites have different answers, it's going to be wrong, but more common questions are usually correct

[@LordZurkov]

Eventually it'll get those right too. It's still pretty new. I, personally, am horrified by the prospect that bots will eventually be better at games than people. It's bad enough that FPS games have been drowned in aimbots forever, but eventually they'll come for all of them. I don't want to play Magic: the Gathering against AI-generated optimal decks. :c

[@wingidon]

I don't like how people use AI as an informational source. It doesn't do any research - it just chews up what it's been given and spits out an amalgamation of that. A good example of this is Google's AI new summaries. Do not put ⅛ cup of non-toxic glue in your pizza to help the cheese stick. Do not smoke 2-3 cigarettes per day during pregnancy. Those are just common sense, but yet...

[@iZetto1]

​@@LordZurkov AI anticheats probably exist by now in some form and they will get better with time. The best way to combat AI is with AI.

[@Plumjet09]

Stopped trusting ChatGPT when it tried to convince me a Simpsons episode from 1991 didn’t exist

[@germanempire8678]

I think that we're living in a virtual insanity. Jamiroquai really sung us a prophecy and we laughed, now we cry.

[@johnnygyro2295]

Who?

[@moodle6500]

@@johnnygyro2295 singer

[@johnnygyro2295]

@@moodle6500 Thank you.

[@gabrielpineirogarcia2078]

Could we fire whoever is writing the timeline of the simulation? Its slop.

[@BeaverChainsaw]

@@johnnygyro2295just listen to the song “Virtual insanity” by Jamiroquai

[@TheZybix]

Legit the first thing I saw after closing this vid was my aunt sending an ai generated video of animals preparing for Christmas with some generic piano music into our family group. It's pretty sad.

[@fadedflop]

And said piano music was most likely AI too

[@khatdubell]

"stop arguing with random internet people who probably don't even exist" ....and i took that personally.

[@karal_the_crazy]

No he is right we all should stop arguing with people online. Btw I know where you live.

[@ARF442nd]

​@@karal_the_crazy I'm inside your walls.

[@karal_the_crazy]

@@ARF442nd the homeless man fears no wall dwellers. -me

[@ARF442nd]

@karal_the_crazy Damn, got me there. GG mate.

[@karal_the_crazy]

@@ARF442nd I have won the internet argument (Stands on top of pc and beats chest in show of dominance)

[@Sharksashimi-Streams]

The ending bit about the value of human art and to value the act of creation hit home nicely with me. I hadn't drawn for like 10 years. I just lost my drive to because of mental health struggles and earlier this week I picked up my tablet again, my spark being reignited not only because I am doing much better now, but also by seeing just how soulless AI slop is. I am now fuelled by the joy of creation as well as intense spite.

[@dr.zoidberg8666]

His conclusion reminded me of a character discussion from Ian Banks' Culture series. The setting is a very distantly advanced galaxy-spanning civilization run by true AI "minds" & with machines that can do absolutely everything much, much better than humans with no exceptions. Human labor is simply no longer needed for society to function. So our main character comes across someone working on building a space ship & asks why she's doing that & if they don't have drones that can do the job. The ship builder replies by asking if the character has ever gone swimming or skydiving. When he says he has she replies that birds will always be better at flying & fish better at swimming than we are but that doesn't stop anybody from doing it. The point is, when work is no longer necessary it just becomes something fun that you can do. & in Ian Banks' world people still get educated, they still pursue passions, they still find meaning & have sometimes quite harrowing adventures. Even thousands of years after the robot overlords come there's plenty of humanity to experience. It's just a different material context is all.

[@Sincarnate]

Ah, spite, the hallmark quality of all value.

[@Influence417]

I wanna get into the creation bit so bad, but I am lacking further education and tricks to make a good story. I'm an aspiring private writer, as in I have no interest in publishing anything other than myself unless I feel like it. I'm 16 and I've cooked up plenty of ideas, some made my GPT, but I honed it with my human brain. The issue is that while I'm apparently unable to come up with a theme or message for my stories, because that is historically required to make a good story, and I've been feeling demotivated recently.

[@dr.zoidberg8666]

@Influence417 Read a lot! Even read outside your genre because there are lots of writers with all kinds of great ideas & techniques that you can try out for yourself after you see what they did. When it comes to themes & messages, I'd say that will come more easily as you age & gain more experience/insight. Don't pressure yourself too much so early.

[@Influence417]

@@dr.zoidberg8666 Guess I'm just in my OC teen phase.

[@finneusredacted5689]

I really hate how easy it is to make AI slop, it’s like for every 10 good videos that exist for a subject a thousand ai slop videos exist

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

My channels are utterly ignored, and yet they contain not even ONE single shred of A.I. jank. Neither do my series of books, which are currently comprised of ~600,000 words and 350+ non-A.I. illustrations.

[@HyperSoundsMusic]

To be honest, I'm not defending anyone here but the term "AI slop" seems to be more used than AI itself, there's no original wording for it

[@mekingtiger9095]

I've recently found an AI slop channel just about quick shorts about polar animals and my God, the amount of people who unironically watch that stuff is ridiculous!

[@holyravioli8648]

@HyperSoundsMusic it is the best phrase to describe whats being described. garbage is another ok one but it just doesnt hit the same.

[@theSixPathsOfTrains]

Your not wrong but I have seen some really good ai art that I have saved and used for.bakcgrounds and posters. So I cant say it's that bad. Lol

[@hooded_alchemist6374]

I have on multiple occasions been in situations were someone saw me drawing or heard I was an artist and their first reaction has been ”you know that’s useless now?”. What scares me most about this isn’t the possibility that I will be replaced with AI, I already know that, but that so many people have already lost so much faith in real human art that they view it as useless. The literal expression of our souls that has existed as long as we have is being thought of as unnecessary because a program can make a soulless doppelgänger of what this expression looks like

[@N-cromancer]

You think AI just killed the internet? Just wait for the next generation of CHAT GPT doctors, lawyers and engineers.

[@legateelizabeth]

They're already putting AI in my healthcare. Next generation is in maybe half a decade, tops. I'm screaming internally.

[@RepublicOfVanuatu]

rokos basilisk

[@Ahnock]

​@@RepublicOfVanuatu shhhhhh we dont talk about ol' bassy here.

[@julianlowrise4981]

@@legateelizabeth AI for use in healthcare has been in development for some time now, and isn't necessarily a bad thing. Specifically I'm referring to using AI in applications of medical practice such as better identification of diseases/assisting diagnosis, and research. This should not however mean replacing doctors or being used in the medical field without a qualified medical practitioner controlling how the AI tool would be used.

[@krsmanjovanovic8607]

Ignorance truly is a bliss, I am an aspiring artist who's going next year to art college, couldnt go this year because my mom died in february which wrecked me completly, little solance I find in solitude and moments of peace inside my house get obliterated and torn apart the moment I start listening to real world news, its all about "prices are rising, lol" and "ch*nese are destroying your local nature park to mine lithium, lmao" or stuff like this practicaly telling me that the only thing that I can still feel some kind of fulfilment is now being taken away by crule unfeeling march of industrialization just kicks me back down while I am not even half way up from the ground yet

[@thedemonpit]

Seeing human creativity die and become replaced by by automated systems causes me pain. I started drawing back in august and thanks to looking up a few guides to help me with some stuff I was stuck on(fuck jawlines) KZbin went “hey so you like art? Let’s ruin your days by constantly recommending videos going over how people are abandoning art creativity to have an Ai output it off of peoples stolen art instead.” It’s truly painful.

[@thedemonpit]

Also finding references not made with AI is absolute pain.

[@thegameglitcher2439]

@@thedemonpit I don't believe human art will 100% die out. I like to view it as GMO vs Organic foods. Technically, in every aspect, GMOs are better than the originals. They're proven to be safe, are bigger, depending on the GMO they could be engineered to make their own toxins specifically for a type of bug so you don't need to spray chemicals, etc. However, organic or non-GMO foods still exist. They still have a market as "the original" despite being inferior in every way. I have many takes against the norm when it comes to AI art. I won't list them because that'll just start an argument, but the point is, I think that human art will become the "organic" niche. People will still want human art because it was made by a human. It's the original, or feels more authentic, or has more time put into it, or whatever you want to market it as.

[@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access]

@@thegameglitcher2439 If anything, the novelty that it was made by an actual human and not farted out by a soulless bot looking to make a buck will add some value to the art piece

[@hllyenaylleth9576]

​@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access nah, very minor. Yet that's not human creativity on display

[@autumn948]

@@thedemonpit i have the same fucking problem with references! i search any ol search i would've back in the day for references, and the top 10 images are always AI! drives me insane, and I don't wanna use AI art as a reference for my real art! It just feels... wrong. all wrong.

[@hughchester]

Generative AI has killed my enthusiasm for new technology.

[@rainbowsorceress2082]

Same, any and all enthusiasm i had was replaced by cynicism

[@rainbowsorceress2082]

Same

[@orderneo]

This is what I need words too. The slop is here and nothing looks appealing anymore. Every new technology feels like a shackle more than something awesome now.

[@007jbond1]

More like Degenerative A.I.

[@ArchArturo]

And movies, for me.

[@kensley94]

Imagine going to the surgeon and the last thing you see in the operating room right before you go under anesthesia is the surgeon on the computer who has Chat GPT in front of him..

[@idontknow4350]

If you were to get laser cataracts eye surgery (or similar) then AI may be your surgeon. Current state-of-the-art equipment for such surgeries is AI operated - whole surgery takes around 2 seconds. It's expensive though, in Poland there is only one hospital with such machine

[@tronixchl2004]

AI should've stayed "for scientific purpose only" tech

[@Sonic2024freedomera]

nothing stays for scientific purposes only

[@jslaughter95]

I disagree to a point, AI should be made in ways that can ease our daily lives, freeing up our time for shit we actually *want* to be doing, or shit we *love* doing. The only “should not” I fully agree with is using AI to replace human creativity and passion, because no matter how good AI gets at “creating” music and art, it will never have the passion, the lived experiences of a human musician/artist

[@polskilis3308]

I want my old Web back NOW!

[@TheSullenDude]

​@@jslaughter95 nuclear reactors are making life better precisely because only strictly curated and controlled environments utilize them. I doubt that you'd want your neighbor to have a diy one in his basement. Some tech truly should be barred from the public.

[@AshBreather]

@@jslaughter95yep. AI should be doing the things we don’t want to, ultimately. Generative AI is the literal antithesis to that idea. They’re getting AI to do the things that actual, living, breathing people find fulfilment in.

[@Wellpeckyoutoo]

I've quoted it once and I'll quote it again: 'I want a robot to do my laundry so I can do my art. I don't want a robot to make my art so I can do my laundry.' Edit: To everybody saying 'well good thing washing machines exist' or 'AI isn't stopping you from making art' can you, just, like....... Shut up?? First off: I don't literally mean washing clothes and you fucking know it, and second: I don't want my art stolen! And wanting to make money off of the art that *I* create is completely fine and normal. And why is that? Because, I dunno, I like money?? And that's not greedy, that's just me wanting to pay for the things I like?? AND EVERYBODY REMEMBER WHAT MR. CIRCLETON THE THIRD ESQUIRE SAID AT 10:39: DO NOT INTERACT WITH THE AI BROS. THEY YEARN FOR THE ATTENTION. I know it seems like I just did, but you know how it is man. Also, I didn't reply to them, so ha and to the person who said 'i want robot maid for personal reason' i never thought about like that thats valid af fr fr

[@sg_6363]

Yes.

[@exLightningg]

Okay then put your clothes in a washing machine and go make art?

[@totaldan99]

@@exLightningg Why do you exist?

[@MrNombik]

​@exLightningg Laudry includes folding your clothes, ironing and putting it in the drawers, chief. No machine automating that.

[@theSixPathsOfTrains]

Fair enough.

[@burkino7046]

The only reason AI companies are saying they need to be regulated is to stifle competition. These companies are already huge with a lot of money, they're the ones who will be asked and determine what regulations should be set. It will be very difficult for anyone new to comply with regulations.

[@BuetifullPersun]

Regulation is why internet became |-|orribI

[@jimbo9305]

@@BuetifullPersun Your disguise of horrible hurt my brain to process it. I do agree with your sentiment though.

[@scrittle]

Monopolies ask for regulations so start-ups have a harder time getting off the ground. If legislation comes in damaging their bottom line - that's ok! Because it's probably a hell of a lot worse for competitors, and they have enough bank to stave it off until lobbying pays off or they find another tax loophole.

[@RepublicOfVanuatu]

have you heard of agi

[@BuetifullPersun]

@@jimbo9305 you so lucky YT didn’t give you your own personal AI moderator! Enjoy while you can 😊

[@tbossch]

Honestly with ai coming along it really shows us how much the rich doesn’t care about us and are talents

[@Trelior]

As a creative, myself, I find it just crushing that AI is so prevalent. Sure, my writing is a disjointed mess of plot points that needs some serious untangling, but I just find it so goddamn disheartening that some chucklehead can throw similar ideas into an AI and have it vomit out an entire (albeit shitty) novel in seconds.

[@joshwenn989]

As a creative, I don't. If I was discouraged by the idea that someone could write shitty stories better than I can I'd have a meltdown over the entire romance novel industry.There's always been crap work churned out at breakneck pace; what matters is your story and the way you want to tell it.

[@THE_BIG_OL_UNIT]

@@joshwenn989 I think the fears that people have are more so grounded on the greed of corporate enterprises and shareholders wanting media produced so quick and cheaply that they discard any and all artistic intent in favor of directionless, undercooked slop. I hope with all of this that indie animation rises to be the trailblazer that brings new and ambitious animators work so they can make a living creating something they can put care into.

[@corecollapse4726]

In a way, I think it's actually even worse than you're saying because these 'chuckleheads' don't just pop some text into an AI and have it write the novel for them. If they did, I could almost assume they were doing it mostly for their own entertainment, like having a personalised story to read to yourself. The bigger issue is that this is being combined with laziness. They punch some text in, let the AI generate some slop, then they'll take the good ideas/plots/lines, punch those in and let the AI generate even more slop. They repeat this process until they get a final product that they think is passable, then throw it out into the world before moving onto the next thing on their list. It's sloth. It's pure, boneidle laziness... And they're being rewarded for it.

[@sgt.squeegee1720]

I used AI art to help give me a concept to my world settings' god pantheon that I wrote myself; and one day I hope to hire an artist or to DO the conceptual art myself. That's what AI should be used for, but unfortunately we live in a world and society full of people who will do anything for their own gain. The worst part is, even I have my concerns about releasing my own setting one day in fear of it getting ripped off or even becoming obsolete because of AI and its meteoric rise in usage... and EVEN THEN, the AI art I used is literally trained off of stealing other people's art! Its a vicious cycle with no end in sight! Really sucks my theory-crafting enthusiasm up. :/

[@getricedmadafuka]

the thing with AI is that teachers at my school also uses it to make our tests and most of the time they are filled with jargon and oversaturated questions with vocab that nobody understands

[@affectiveobserver]

I teach 6th grade history and I'm in my 20's. Are the teachers you mentioned old? I can only imagine an older teacher who barely knows how to use a computer trying to successfully use AI in their classroom. Sometimes I can't even have effective common planning because the other teachers don't know how to use the programs available to them.

[@Illiabombakla]

My English teacher on our eyes used chat GTP to make an essay that he would later say was his

[@MoosefaceYT]

A 9/11 joke ONE second in? That's actually got to be a world record.

[@TealTheCuteness]

Wait until you enter Instagram reels

[@MoosefaceYT]

@TealTheCuteness The most beautiful nuclear warzone on the Internet

[@Twix07]

Internet went to hell when it turned into a business instead of a communication and expression medium😔, I miss the good days

[@Pwnopolis]

The fact AI has been wholly trained with nothing but stolen material. And a literally i comprehensible quantity of stolen data and has noy yeilded any legal concequences Is the wildest thing ive seen involving AI.

[@Pwnopolis]

Incomprehensible* Cant edit on mobile.

[@user-zi8lg5qu1h]

I mean they didn't steal anything, when you put something on the internet it is public information. It basically just googled everything, when I look at some art I do the same thing as ai did I convert it into information I could choose to learn from (tho I do agree that it blatantly copies some work and infringes copyright laws but that is not the training part)

[@aiaikawa4012]

​​​@@user-zi8lg5qu1h yea just bc something is on the internet does not mean its okay to take without consent and make a profit off it. Im so tired of this argument. If youre heavily inspired by a piece of work when making your own, you give it credit. If someone creates content for you, you pay them. And if you train your model off people's work you SHOULD ask for consent and COMPENSATE them for literally making your training model possible. These people are making insane amounts of money off the UNPAID and MISAPPROPIATED labour of millions of people who didn't even have a moment to process it was even happening at first. It may be technically "legal" but when nobody wouldve consented to it, and if they had, they wouldve demanded payment, then it is still stealing. And they know this, thats why they did it this way. Because if it weren't for stealing, then this amount of development in this little amount of time would not have been physically possible.

[@maxjohnson403]

This is the biggest issue I have with the whole AI argument. Sure you can say its bad whatever, but it doesn't steal anything. It's the same as a person looking at a picture and drawing inspiration from it.

[@Grytzen]

​@@maxjohnson403Not the same at all...

[@bananerbug165]

One thing I love is that the little robot gremlins look like the viruses from Dr. Mario and 7:26 took the words right out of my mouth lol

[@Alloveck]

Aside from the Dr Mario reference, they seemed to most closely resemble Futurama robots to me.

[@glasses6524]

my dad is the president of a multi-location company. frequently, he will proudly show me AI images he makes of his company a thousand years in the future like a kid showing me the stick figure he drew of himself as a superhero. i point out that the logo is wrong, that the structure doesn't make sense, that there's no actual space inside for work, and that it's only "futuristic" because there's a lot of windows and the sky is dark purple. he says "eh whatever" and then posts it to the official social media account with the caption "this is [company] in the future!" as a marketing tactic.

[@mekingtiger9095]

Man, from some of these comments here, it must be hard to be the son of a capitalist in the AI Hype age.

[@glasses6524]

@@mekingtiger9095 daughter, actually. and yeah it can be. this thanksgiving, he and my uncle were talking about crypto and how their investments were doing. i don't know a whole lot about that topic, but nothing i've heard is particularly positive.

[@Alloveck]

@glasses6524 Wow, both blind to the stupid fakeness of AI imagery AND all in on crypto? That's... unfortunate. He's only got one strike left at this point.

[@bottomtext593]

I feel sorry for your dad. Or hell, company presidents in general. I've never heard of someone so ignorant and out-of-touch with the rest of the world.

[@glasses6524]

@@Alloveck good news: he's a hardcore trump supporter

[@Kai-bh4iz]

AI is hands down the worst and the worst thing Ive ever seen is having my family hook on it like fish to a worm and they... Will not let go!

[@wbmjunior0]

ChatGPT lies so much. It just spits back what you want to hear.

[@Hakaor]

Its so easy to brainwash

[@Lorentz_Driver]

Maybe on questions of morality, but it's far more useful than googling.

[@mebreevee]

If you cant afford a professional therapist, it is very kind to people when you tell it you just want to rant

[@bulbakingdoot3514]

@@Lorentz_Driver no it isn’t. It will literally say lies because it has no concept of what a fact is. It is simply trying to choose the most likely word to follow, based on its training data, which includes stuff like random Reddit posts and articles from the fucking Onion. It’s basically just a more advanced version of autocomplete, like on your phone.

[@Y_u_dum]

I remember there was a time where it has democratic bias. When the same question was asked but the name was changed to the different candidates(Biden & Trump), it would not generate the same results and would usually put Trump in a negative light(before the epstein stuff) while praising Biden. Look, I'm not political at all but this definetly had at least a 1% different outcome in the election of 2020. If this happened for presidential candidates, can you imagine the other things it has a bias against/for and showed you this biased information as fact?

[@BlackieSootfur]

8:51 SCREAMING THIS FROM THE ROOFTOPS!!!!! One of the things i always loved about ART IN GENERAL ON THE INTERNET was that feeling of connection. Someone out there made this and now I'm seeing it. They thought of it and put pen to paper/screen and SLAVED OVER IT and now I'm seeing it. A glimpse of someone else's world. That feeling was stolen from me by ai. I feel like i can barely trust anything i see these days cause it's gotten so good at pretending. I can't just marvel at the human creation cause it's hardly human anymore.

[@Bleplebeian]

hi blackie sootfur! i feel the same way, a lot of the time. i stay in my own little corner of the internet where i still mostly see human made art but i have also become paranoid whenever i venture out of that corner. on the other hand, i also agree with that feeling of connection. its why i enjoy getting art of my characters so much and why i asked one of my family members for art for christmas, because i see it and know that someone took time out of their day to not only draw something but draw something as a gift to me. i have a whole folder on my computer with all of the art ive recieved saved on it (even though theres not much in there since not many people know who i am) and that's just something id never get with ai, even with its best work, because there's no human soul behind it. even the quickest doodle will always mean so much more to me just on the basis that there's someone behind it. also, sidenote: i really like your animations. they're really expressive and fun to watch

[@uponeric36]

The art didn't change, you got more cynical and blamed it on AI and the internet. The exact same thing happened in the transition from physical media to digital. Suddenly, you find yourself unable to enjoy art. Instead of introspecting, it's now the fault of uhhh (looks at google) those evil artists using photoshop to eliminate the "real human" element of the art. I mean those bastards using cameras instead of painting like man. Sorry meant to say the soulless abstract works of impressionist painters who can't respect the deeply human art traditions...

[@strayiggytv]

​@@uponeric36none of those are apt comparisons. The digital art tablet doesn't draw on its own and the camera doesn't take its own pictures. Stop useing fake comparisons to justify lazy art theft. AI art has nothing to marvel at because there was no effort out into making it. People who use it will never get the validation they crave because someone can go "huh that's neat I think I'll just generate it myself ."

[@mekingtiger9095]

@@uponeric36 Are you seriously using the horrendous comparison to digital and cameras when both require much more practice and knowledge to use professionally than AI whose *whole seeling point* is to be as easy and with the flattest learning curve as possible??? Remind me of Shadiversity's pretentiousness in his "Love Letter" to AI.

[@kyuba4928]

@@uponeric36 You probably don't know anything about art and photography to say such things right ?

[@Burn2themall]

The part that kills me inside the most is I can no longer look at art and just enjoy it now I need to tell if it's ai or not before I let myself enjoy anything

[@RepublicOfVanuatu]

exactly, why would you take that time when you can just enjoy the art whether or not?

[@LC-mq8iq]

that seems more like a you problem then an AI problem. when i see a picture i like i just enjoy it and dont worry about how it was made

[@Sonario648]

Same. I was on .......... a website, and I found a nice pic of Salazzle from Pokemon. ....... It's fucking AI.

[@Disturbed_face]

I dont really bother with that, for me the problem with ai art is the artifacts, oh man when you see them the image is completely ruined and you cant unsee it, i really hate it because a human would never produce those kind of weird artifacts

[@Alloveck]

It's not so much "can I enjoy it," as it's "does this demonstrate any actual effort or, most importantly, skill, on the part of whoever posted it."

[@marcusupdegraff5870]

Literally the last ad I've had was a coca-cola ad made completely out of AI. Not to mention my school using AI art in their posters.

[@RunningMouse7]

oh fuck naw

[@Microfaun]

You're a real one for that little Nitrome reference.

[@LuznoLindo]

Couldn't agree more. That took me back very much.

[@Time_Traveling_Corgi]

I moved to New Zealand and unplugging from a lot of the more toxic sides of the internet was a requirement. It was annoying at first, but I wouldn't go back now.

[@holopeve]

What do you mean by "a requirement"?

[@stitches768]

​@@holopeve yeah what they said, also can I move there? 🤣

[@SurrealKeenan]

Just so you know, those companies that are asking for government regulation aren't asking out of the goodness of their heart. Government regulation favors the people who first innovated in those industries. It's a form of protectionism because it makes getting into the industry harder for new entrepreneurs which reduces competition and sucks for everybody but the super rich. Please be careful about the regulation you advocate for and definitely don't support regulation tech companies advocate for

[@Faded_Fragger]

true

[@amiablereaper]

It doesn't really matter, the big ai companies already got their moat during the Obama administration.

[@3nertia]

Welcome to capitalism! All roads lead to profit!

[@tjsnowow]

He wasn't talking about the companies themselves but researchers / scientists and OG entrepreneurs. They themselves realized that they went too far too fast and it's true, AI is moving things rapidly in less than 2 years.

[@aev6075]

@@tjsnowow No. You misunderstood the starter. Please re-read it again.

[@butter_0021]

Humans are so stupid. We constantly dream of how robots and AI will become the future and allow us to stop have to deal with all the worst parts of life, but instead of focusing on something like self-driving cars with AI, we went straight to replacing what was previously passion projects.

[@holasoyd0ra136]

I remember this one time a while ago, it basically was about how anyone could go through anything in one day and everyone is going through something different in one singular day. Reading the comments of that video consisted of people simply talking about their day, some had a good day, some weren't as fortunate. But that moment was the first time I had felt like I was experiencing a part of the internet consisting of actual people.

[@reverse_engineered]

Back in the late 90s I used the internet for two things: learning and social interaction. I was very active on a few IRC channels and made real friends along the way. There were no bots back then; the closest things were completely laughable. Now, I can tell by the usernames and the shear volume they produce that many blog articles, how-to websites, and KZbin comments are just purely bot written drivel. So much of it sounds the same. So much of it is vague. So much of it meanders and says a lot without saying anything. Even the classic recipe blogs which had endless stories about how their grandmother used to make this at least seemed to have a unique, personal touch. Now the same kind of "relatable" content generated by AI is just heartless and generic. The 1990-2000s were a special time for the Internet and even for the whole world. I will always miss that time.

[@dragondog14]

working retail for a high fashion company and a starving artist myself...its so disheartening to see AI generated patterns in some of the clothing we sell. No one i mean NO ONE on my team even noticed til a few weird details caught my eye. A lazy AI pattern on an okay at best quality garment charging $60 is ridiculous to me

[@cristianiiv6418]

People in the past believed AI would replace manual labor and humans only would work in creative jobs Turns out is the opposite, AI took over creative jobs

[@filmkid8221]

I did not expect to see 9/11 so fast

[@changingpeopleslivesmoon2993]

That’s the internet for you

[@Elluminative]

yeah enough time passes I guess?

[@freddiefishton]

comedy = tragedy + time -me, just now

[@josephjoestar953]

@@freddiefishton There's a quote that goes really well with this "comedy = tragedy + time" -@freddiefishton 16:00, December 7th, 2024

[@Matt_From_2006_Game_Wii_Sports]

Wouldn't've wanted it any other way.

[@FretNotFert]

10:40 the amount of people that need to hear this is astounding

[@hannahnohlgren989]

I used to love to browse DeviantArt daily for new cool stuff. But AI slop started showing up, AI porn which I reported, little was done, I reported the AI users that had celebrity AI porn, or.. Very unappropriated porn with AI, little was done. I was so discouraged I just. Stopped reporting, I stopped using DeviantArt all together... I still haven't gone back to it to this day, I do not have the heart. Whoever you are doing art, writing, painting, drawing, photographing. You are doing great, keep at it. We need you.

[@RJS2003]

Feel this so hard for real. I know for a damn fact that if DeviantArt was still owned by people who actually cared about artists and their craft and not, well, deviants, they'd be nowhere near as shamelessly pro-AI as they have been. The ghouls who own it now fundamentally do not understand the value of art. From the looks of it to me the best way to fight against AI right now seems to be just keep doing what we've been doing: Keep on and keep making art.

[@mekingtiger9095]

​@@RJS2003 Bleak, yet hopeful. I like your take.

[@uponeric36]

@@RJS2003 It's funny that luddites claim artists "fundamentally do not understand the value of art" such a tired and boring argument. Literally discriminating against new art forms because it hurts your feelings then using Orwellian language to redefine what we're "supposed" to see as art.

[@cin2110]

Even daily deviant art gooners got hit.

[@jupreindeer]

Never touched DA. So, no idea they were negligent to AI stuff. Which is a problem when AI can pump out so much, so quickly. Just needs a place to call home... and eat up all the bandwidth at.

[@CaptainEffort]

Agree that AI was the final nail in the coffin but... the internet we knew and loved had been on life support for a while.

[@Ariesmatic]

I just wish they gave us humans the chance to reinvent instead of making a robot capable of reinventing. It deprives the new era of empathy and creativity 😔

[@STEVEYTHEEXEEVEE]

@@Ariesmatic Gen Z deprive themselves of empathy and creativity as is, they actively choose to make that choice.

[@SynthAir]

10:32 As a software engineer:‼**DO NOT USE DETECTION TOOLS!** ‼They do not work, and actually do a lot of harm because of the high number of false-positives they generate. There is no current reliable way to detect AI-generated content other than looking for typical AI artifacts. It is unlikely there will ever be a way due to the way that AI works, but I'm not going to write an essay.

[@lordmictian6951]

ChatGPT Prompt: write me the essay SynthAir refused to write.

[@scrittle]

The best indicator is the poster's history because most AI generated content is uncredited and some products have more artifacts than others.

[@Alloveck]

Aside from details that are just plain wrong, I find the best "detection tool" is my own eyes' noticing things being just... too clean and smooth. I have yet to see a confirmed AI-generated image that didn't look unnaturally smooth and textureless.

[@Meetskink]

@@Alloveckanother good way to tell is looking at the background, ai is really bad with perspective, backgrounds often look like they're stretching on for miles, especially with things like hallways or crowds

[@JamesTDG]

@@Alloveck I more rely upon AI-generated noise. There are elements in some outputs that will leave very noisy artifacts that no human would desire to draw unless they were a rookie.

[@iStricer]

I’ve shown your video so far to more than a dozen of my friends, creatives and non-creatives alike, and everyone is very scared of our dead internet and how AI is changing our mindset as a whole. Your video was universally agreed by them all, and made many of them think and take a different kind of look at our upcoming AI revolution as a whole. Thank you, I appreciate you saying it all in your video!

[@MathematicalVoid]

7:48 - I’ve actually tested Google’s AI search thing. Most of the info it gave on how Naughty Dog employees came up with the Crash villain Nitros Oxide was statistics related to Oxide in a Disney racing game that doesn’t exist.

[@Sharky_0456]

i hate google for doing that, they are forcing ai to do something its not good at yet and search engines were already shit enough as they were with ai slop ruining search engine optimisation, the ai overview are just google taking the piss at this point. i want to use duckduckgo but it doesnt really change much so im just kind of in a state of misery at what the state of browsing the modern web has become

[@bensteinhauser784]

What's most wild about the AI explosion is to me is that most people don't even understand how it works. ChaptGPT and most other large AI's are large language models (LLM). They take reference data, determine relevance between terms, and then plot it in a vector space. When you input a prompt, it compares that to the plot that it has and spits out a statistically likely result based on relevance, no intelligence or understand involved. It's so saddening that people saw this overgrown algorithm and instead of treating it like the useful, but limited tool that it is, decided to inject it into every aspect of life.

[@mekingtiger9095]

Corporations pushing it everywjere through aggressive marketing and other means didn't help it either.

[@Lorentz_Driver]

That's all fine and dandy, but on a basic level that's also how brains work. Ai *is* limited, until it's not.

[@mebreevee]

We don’t understand how human consciousness works. Hope we humans figure that out soon.

[@bensteinhauser784]

@@Lorentz_Driver Kind of but not really? Sure, association is an important part of how the brain works, but it's not close to the totality of our thought process. Also, it's extremely unlikely that LLM progress into something like AGI.

[@scrittle]

Ah, the Chinese sweatshop thought experiment is referenced again.

[@NCNasiR]

I know this doesnt really pertain to the actual video's topic, but i just awakened SO many memories at 11:28 Nitrome was my CHILDHOOD. Thank you Circle for taking me back in time a lil bit lmao

[@NCNasiR]

But also the bit where you used an AI voice over youre own actually horrified me for a moment... This stuff should seriously be regulated or something :C

[@ChezzyKnytt]

I'm working on a personal project and that 'fall in love with the effort' bit gave me huge motivation, thank you.

[@BennyHarveyBigMan]

I'm just going to start using AI to do everything

[@cristianiiv6418]

​@@BennyHarveyBigMan yeah, people wasting time and effort in something others do in seconds To what? To some strangers analyze for hours it and say "yup no AI" give a tap in the back and ignore it forever

[@t.j.vellinga6225]

My way to getting away from AI is doing things in real life. I have stopped taking notes on my Keeps app. I know have a leather notebook I carry around. I started gardening and growing my own food. So when I get into those doom spirals, I just go outside and water my carrots. And then I have carrots (in a few months).

[@rainbowsorceress2082]

Awesome :)

[@paradiselost9946]

what until the NI comes and destroys it all... NI? the knights that say NI! no. the rats. the cockatoos... "natural intelligence". i planted my corn out a few weeks back. from day one... cockatoos sitting on the tree branch nearby, keeping an eye on it. hilarious to watch one sitting on teh fence yanking on a leaf... not damaging it, but rather "hurry up and GROW, i wanna EAT YOU" type thing... then the rats destroyed it anyway. first hairs from the ears, and thats it. gone in two nights. so i cut it down, and the cockies vanished. now theyre back as the sunflowers are blooming... well, it made a change from the hail, i guess... usually its hail? but i finally grew my first capsicum! bell pepper, assuming youre american...

[@DangStank]

I was probably born at the worst time relative to the AI revolution. I was taking animation courses in college at the same time that AI junk started to go super nova. Pretty much watching my money, education, time and effort become obsolete in front of my very eyes.

[@johngddr5288]

people are gonna fight against this. and they are, once the internet turns out to be 99% bots and artificial content, the internet's utility is over and we're going to need to do something about it.

[@RepublicOfVanuatu]

rokos basilisk

[@paulsheldon8838]

Who knows how useful it will be before the end, we don't know and there is still hope. But I'll explore other ways of making money. I do at least, as a creator.

[@JohnArktor]

No on the contrary, you have learnt something that is becoming rare and valuable

[@3nertia]

You're not obsolete! PLEASE keep working on those skills! Make neat stuff! Just, maybe don't show it AI when you're done xD There's always commissions - people will catch on eventually that all their AI generated "commissions" all look the same and that's when your stuff will *really* stand out!

[@knellchthyomi2884]

My final project for University was essentially a free for all. We could do anything so long as it involved Mass Media and Creativity. My final project was to make a game but I can't code at all and I couldn't wrap my head around it. I cared more about the storytelling and design than I did about coding. So I narrowed my project to creating a website documenting the various enemies and creatures I designed although because I was a terrible artist I mostly had detailed descriptions of what they looked like along with crappy sketches. I hired several artist to translate my crappy sketches and descriptions into physical art and I felt more touched that a human would take the time to bring my world to reality. By the end of the project I only had 20 of my creatures made but each was brought to life. I was encouraged to use AI image generation with my descriptions in order to get all over 100 completed but I refused. I can't thank the artist enough for bringing my "Chthonians" to life and some of them agreed to stay so I could create more. I pray someday that my little creatures can become a full fledged game but as of now it is just nice getting them into reality. Even if I am unable to get the traction or information out there.

[@Splatcake]

Maybe you could try a kickstarter campaign when its further along and have more knowledge and funds to do things

[@Horseyh]

8:20 I have a great quote from Arcane “There is no prize to perfection… only an end to pursuit.” -Viktor

[@Da_Peach]

which episode is this from?

[@Horseyh]

@Da_Peach the last one. By Viktor

[@3nertia]

I call bullshit. Perfection can exist. Capitalism just can't exploit perfection - that's not predators work heh

[@Lowlin85]

I also thought of Arcane when I saw this! 🎉😊

[@noobmasterruben5167]

One of the best quotes in the series

[@dracoslayer16]

We have photos and videos with the information of what made them ingrained right in them saying "made with iphone," "made with photoshop." Why do we not require AI content to do the same? It used to be companies banned bot accounts but now celebrate them? Hell, the gaming industry has been putting up with it for literally decades with bot accounts in MMOs. We knew this was coming but did nothing to stop it. I'm calling it now but this is all going to change the moment someone brings a piece of AI content to court as "evidence" and gets found out.

[@eliescobis9922]

Challenge accepted

[@scrittle]

Because marketing knows labelling anything as "made with AI" will lose sales. They want to muddy the waters and normalise it first, that's why it's a free service for the moment to hook people in. ...Which meanders into the 'AI bubble' that gets mentioned everso often. Most investors are questioning whether AI is profitable, because so far subscription rates aren't as high as expected.

[@alexbrangan2885]

This has actually happened already. LegalEagle has a whole video about how two lawyers used ChatGPT to do their research for them on a case, and ChatGPT cited precedents from cases that didn't actually exist. Needless to say, the judge was furious.

[@MrSpartan993]

Which country? I doubt most countries have actually hit this issue just yet.

[@merrykitobjectfoster444]

Not only ai... Corporate greed too.

[@changingpeopleslivesmoon2993]

Yeah by using AI

[@GeorgeEgroed-e7f]

Bross having a bro hug.

[@RJS2003]

Giant companies that control our lives really do be foaming out the mouth rn at more opportunities to put humans out of jobs and make their internal workings even MORE inhuman than they already were.

[@Lorentz_Driver]

@@changingpeopleslivesmoon2993 AI isn't inherently bad. It's the way they use it.

[@BuetifullPersun]

Nah woke

[@veritaspk]

The "Dead Internet Theory" is now a fact. Greed hasn't just destroyed the Internet...it's destroying everything.

[@umartinko]

11:26 As someone who coincidentally recently went down the nostalgia lane and replayed my favorite Nitrome games, I highly approve of this message.

[@toastrave7820]

glad to ghear Nitrome 's name again

[@WorldOrderOfIdiocracy]

i remember nitrome. i used to play their rubble trouble games

[@Lemon_boy404]

I went to a restaurant and saw an ai Santa shirt that said "we put the RIZZ in ChRIZZtmas!"

[@typemasters2871]

Thanks, I hate it

[@jacksonhopp2003]

I can already feel the shame of the employees right now. Knowing they have to have that while handing out orders…

[@suuslime3908]

That's actually a really good joke all things considered.

[@MrSpartan993]

Wow what the actual fuck.

[@falloutboy1379]

Ha...haha I just saw that a few days ago

[@Manwithnoname1967]

'The internet is dead and we have killed it. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers

[@twoo5329]

What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us?

[@syncopatedglory]

this is so melodramatic lmao

[@toastrave7820]

return to the classic forums

[@Manwithnoname1967]

@ the only way to do anything

[@uponeric36]

This is funny in the most deeply wrong of ways. Many people really would put the internet above God in their minds, and see it's fall as the tragedy of a lifetime, when actually that would just be a return a life that was normal for hundreds of years.

[@CoinClever]

half expected a "animation is under attack, which side are you on?" at the end

[@Emanig.sumtin]

3:28 my passionate hatred for ai is so strong i could tell the miniscuel electic hum wierd tuning lack of proper tone different pitch but the fact it could fool anyone is the problem

[@RpgPenguins]

I was wondering if my headset was giving out as I too heard that tonal shift

[@tjsnowow]

And I believe they did that on purpose. Because with just a modicum of post-processing and editing you could get rid of that tell, and the only thing left would be the improper replication, not the humming noise. Oh and how most publicly available mimicry is outdated by like a year because most open source focus and attention is on image / video generation over sounds, voices, music, etc.

[@liesdamnlies3372]

I was watching on my phone and that hum was drowned-out by my humidifier’s fan. I can only hear it if I shove the speaker right in my ear. :/

[@niminox6479]

I think it was the lack of breathing or any plausible places where breathing was cut out, his speech not being overly fast (you know, the way one might speed up when blurring something out in one breath), and going on for a bit too long was what made me pause

[@CrimsonCaII]

0:12 And in 2005 a crocodile was obsessed with finding it

[@Randomthings-w1w]

Ohhh I get it

[@pietrocip1162]

​@@Randomthings-w1w i didn't

[@RedToad900]

Find the Computer Room!

[@Taoddddd]

???

[@somecallmesean_]

@@pietrocip1162vector the crocodile from shadow the hedgehog

[@thermosthegreat3045]

Dude, fuck AI. Every day, the quote; "They were so pre-occupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think about whether or not they should." from Jurassic Park feels more and more true. Funny that a lesson about AI can be learned from Jurassic Park, but that's the power of human story telling.

[@corecollapse4726]

It's important to rememeber that, as amazaballs as AI seems, it's being trained ON Human information. Proof that tech still can't out-create human creativity. It's all merely spliced up copies of other peoples stuff.

[@LazyCatAnims]

I'm so fucking tired of this AI shit, it was goofy and kinda cool when it started coming around a few years ago but now it is EVERYWHERE and in EVERYTHING when it isn't necessary! Even worse are those who will abuse it to spread misinformation and cause conflicts. And don't even get me started on AI ""art"".

[@mizosis]

i'm going to college literally in a month as an animation major what am i supposed to do when AI entirely takes over in half a year :(

[@justclips98]

we gon be alright

[@Leofwine]

I'm dabbling in hand-drawn animation as a hobby; line art and sketches done on paper with a pencil, the “inking” and colourisation on a 1991 Commodore Amiga with a painting program from the same year. I also thought about giving up, but despite feeling despair, I don't want to. Otherwise, a big reason why I fixed - and still keep - that old computer becomes meaningless. Art created by a human is now what the handwritten illuminated manuscript was in 1500 - a statement of expertise, a craft, a passion, a tradition.

[@TheforeverPigeonKing]

Even when scrambling to write an essay for my English class, I make a note to not use chatgpt specifically because it conflicts with my morals. How can you be proud of something you did when it wasn’t even you who did it. If I do use an ai in a serious setting, you best believe I built it cause otherwise berry me in dirt and never let it out.

[@FranXiT]

I'm gonna raspberry you in dirt alright

[@gosucab944]

I'm actually curious. How is school these days. I finished my school years some odd 4 years before AI started taking off. How has it changed how students and teachers approach things?

[@wrongnumber9389]

​@gosucab944 From my personal experience, it just made some students really lazy with writing and others more open to ideas. Most have already gotten used to ChatGPT's weird style, so some are a bit more scrutinizing. As for myself, I use it to gather information quickly (actually looking at sources for verification) and getting a suitable method for mathematics (however wrong it gets, the method is typically right, except trying to show it circuits, it is utter garbage for circuits). I never use it for writing since I actually like it, and I would rather not risk getting flagged and losing credibility. EDIT: This is in the context of college/university.

[@AjikageStudios]

​@@gosucab944 A lot of my classmates were using ai to write their labs and stuff and ik some schools were using ai detectors that would detect real stuff as ai and have some people fail assignments. (Didnt happen to me tho)

[@TopOfShark-e3q]

One reason I love Warhammer and making Miniatures, is cause an AI can’t create this real touchable 3D model so it’s all human blood sweat and tears in every Mini, for now.

[@Fire_doggo1]

Love the just shapes and beats reference at the start with the factory music, nostalgia

[@ciberkid22]

There's this one comic I swear I saw where someone gets kidnapped by robots, and gets strapped to a chair and forced to wear glasses that display the exact thing to release the most dopamine for that person, and then it cuts to many others who are going through the same thing It's one of many reasons why I hope no one programd sentience into AI lol

[@GummyPikminProductions]

I feel like the worst part about AI right now is that it’s absolutely fucking WRECKING the animation industry. All companies want to feed your kids are absolute AI *SLOP.* People are losing their jobs because of AI. It’s truly sad.

[@RepublicOfVanuatu]

do you support the printing press

[@GummyPikminProductions]

@@RepublicOfVanuatu it gave us books so why would I not?

[@julianlowrise4981]

@@GummyPikminProductions I think they were going for the notion that the printing press replaced scriveners who held the work of manually creating book copies prior to the printing press, drawing a comparison between the advancements of technology in both the press and AI and how each disrupts industry. The comparison falls flat when you consider that the printing press was a very positive technology that has allowed for the proliferation of human created works, and the skill-set of scriveners was easily transferable to other areas of the workforce. AI however reduces the amount of human created works, doesn't allow easy transference of roles as any role that someone replaced by AI could immediately apply the skills from the previous role to can also be filled with AI, and finally has the potential to reduce the skills of humans engaging with the industry.

[@GummyPikminProductions]

@ yeah smth like that

[@tttttttttttttttp12]

​@@RepublicOfVanuatu nowhere near comparable

[@danielstokes2127]

I have always been nervous about online bullying and harassment and now that A.I. is allowing scammers, bullies and companies to do shady things and I really hope that some laws or action of some sort can either remove or limit A.I. from all these devices and such!

[@Ahnock]

oh god i cant even imagine the stuff kids are making using ai, kids can be particularly ruthless to each other when they want to be. i didnt even think about that.

[@julianlowrise4981]

@@Ahnock At least here in Australia there's already been an instance of students deep faking inappropriate imagery of other students and distributing said images.

[@catperson6683]

I've been apartment hunting for a while now and I can say AI has become a pain in the butt!!! A large number of the listings are AI!! Even on reputable websites!! I hate it so much.

[@reverse_engineered]

They are also using AI to set prices. There was a scandal only a couple of months ago where it was discovered a large portion of landlords were all using the same program to tell them what optimal prices were. It did this by collecting what everyone else in the area was charging, then told everyone to charge a bit more than that, and since everyone was being told the same thing, they were all increasing prices. It was price collusion, only it was being done by software instead of direct communication between competitors. But technically it's not illegal (yet).

[@007jbond1]

I love cats and cat people

[@stefansburg]

I hate Ai. It does not only kill creativity but also productivity. So many people in my computer science class only use chatgpt. And this shit works, it works well but the thing is nobody learns anything anymore

[@RepublicOfVanuatu]

rokos basilisk

[@MrSpartan993]

What’s scary is when THOSE people start taking jobs in government and other places of power or imagine someone like that one day being in charge the USA nuclear missile systems!

[@julianlowrise4981]

To me this is the real problem. Even if AI gets to the point were it gives the correct result 100% of the time, the people who use it won't learn or gain any experience through using it. Worse is that In the event that the AI gets it right only 99% of the time, if no-one can tell the difference because they don't understand the principles of good or bad results, no-one will be able to identify the 1% it does get it wrong.

[@ivanlol7153]

@@RepublicOfVanuatuthat’s different

[@clericofchaos1]

then clearly, they never cared about learning in the first place...and there have always been students like that. Students who don't want to be in class but are being forced to against their will. Either because they need that specific credit to graduate or because their alternatives were even worse. No matter how advanced AI gets, the people who actually want to learn, will continue to learn.

[@CynUnion-ji9uj]

I think the infuriating exposure to a bunch of AI slop is part of why i got really into the building and painting of Minis for stuff like D&D and Warhammer. I just turn on some music I love, grab a paint brush or some clippers & glue, and just make something.

[@calvinanderson4245]

This, so much this! Every zoomer is cope seethe rent freeing the coomer doomers and sneed feed and seed, they're locked and KEYED and SOVL and /pol/cel bloomer soulless slop kino peak fiction!

[@PJSproductions97]

It's crazy that the Internet was born, was interesting, and died in a human lifetime. Obviously there'll be stuff that's still online but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the happiest people revert to living in a way that resembles the 70's more.

[@Someone-sc2hk]

once an idea is in the collective human psyche, it doesn't just die, if the internet does end up dead/unusable, people will make a new one

[@chrish4439]

​@@Someone-sc2hk That doesn't make any sense. What would stop people flooding the new one with AI too? 🤦‍♀️

[@Twitterzk]

Honestly, the internet won’t die. It’s still gonna be used. It’s too much to give up. The information on the internet is too overwhelming to just throw it away. Realistically, there will be a need for huge restrictions, but you need to remember: most ai art is posted by a small fraction of the actual users. Granted there are a lot of bots, but most just comment, not post. The only reason for over abundance of ai on the internet is cause it’s so efficient. Though likely we will be able to eventually restrict access to it

[@mekingtiger9095]

That would be both bleak yet somehow hopeful. Maybe we can use this end of the Internet to learn something from it and not repeat the same mistake in a possible new "Renaissance" if it ever happens.

[@reverse_engineered]

"People will make a new one" has been said and done many times, but it rarely works. Just look at all the attempts to replace Facebook or Twitter. It goes well beyond that too: the QWERTY keyboard layout is so pervasive that few people would ever want to spend the effort to switch to something better. English, for all of the disaster that it is, is so commonly spoken that it will be very difficult if not impossible to displace. In fact, there are alternate internets, but nobody outside of a small niche of academia knows anything about them. Internet2 was a thing but it never took off. Hell, we are still stuck with the drastic limitations of email, DNS, IPv4, and SMS, even though we've had much better alternatives almost since the day those became popular. The internet became a thing because it was something new and powerful. The second slightly-better internet won't be compelling enough to jump to if it means leaving behind the old internet. And of course, if the problem is that AI exists, then AI will continue to exist regardless of how many times we create a new internet.

[@KylaMurckson]

Agreed! I can't even find the stuff I'm looking for anymore! Because of this f***ing bull****!

[@knines6279]

So this is how AI takes over? Not literally taking over the world like in terminator, but by replacing every aspect of the internet?

[@reverse_engineered]

Slowly but surely replacing every part of humanity. We only think about it working in the digital domain of the internet, but we've been using robots for decades to perform tasks in the real world. The better they get, the less there is for us to do and the less valuable we are to the people who pay our wages. It won't be long until they don't need us anymore.

[@trueNahobino]

One thing to note is that unlike in Terminator, this isn't the AI itself actually trying to take over (at least not yet), but rather still people and big corporations trying to control us. In that sense, AI isn't anything new, but just another tool to be used against the masses.

[@Shoreknight]

Not gonna lie, I love how you drew the lil robots to represent ai. I’d buy a plush of it only if it was made by human hands

[@JamesTDG]

I mean, is makeship good enough?

[@Sincarnate]

I'm not gonna lie, either.

[@LoraLoibu]

physically it's probably gonna be mostly machine-made so tough luck there but the design yeah i get wanting an actual person to take care of the details there

[@3nertia]

Thankfully, sewing is still one of the few things only humans can accomplish :D We've yet to be able to give machines the necessary dexterity *or* intelligence

[@LoraLoibu]

@@3nertia there's sewing machines but they can only do one type and have to be human operated sooooooo yeah

[@TheRandomShenanigans2]

Me who gets physically uncomfortable seeing any A.I. art watching A.I. art be everywhere across the internet:

[@feritye767]

eventually you won't even be able to tell it's ai

[@_SUPERN0VA_]

I know this will sound crazy, but have you considered turning off your Internet?

[@TheRandomShenanigans2]

@_SUPERN0VA_ I make videos and play games on the internet though.

[@GeorgeEgroed-e7f]

​@feritye767 and thats very very sad

[@Lorentz_Driver]

weak

[@crabcaked123]

I saw someone point out how AI at some point will just start consuming itself. I think most artists at some point (especially with how defiant and determined we are these days) just stop or slow down making art, causing AI to just consume its own creation which will just make it repetitive and samey. It doesn't currently and will not in the future have that human creativity that makes those works special. Plus, this whole AI replacing workers will last maximum 10 to 15 years, maybe less with the state of the work rn (manual labor and such). Because CEOs don't really see into the future, if people don't have jobs, who's going to buy their stuff? I'm an economics student and it's literally one of the most basic things we learn, no job - no money - no money- no spending. people being so aware this day in age is going to be worse for them. People aren't going to buy from people purposefully disadvantaging them (which again we're seeing in real life currently) It's going to end bad for every party, the people, the government, the businesses. For a more in depth preceptive I recommend 'If AI Takes All Of Our Jobs... Who's Going To Buy Everything?' by how money works And tbh I think it's a good think, not to be political but we are so close to class consciousness due to recent events and I genuinely just a few more pushes and people of this world are going to have enough, not just artists but everyone who are gonna realize where we're going and how everyone's going to get hit hard. Sorry for my English btw, it's a second language and I'm not the best. Thanks for coming to my ted talk Edit: also forgot to mention how hard legal stuff will become with AI, it's only a matter of time till we get legal restrictions for AI. But until then how many pregnant versions of politicians can we get before they ban it?

[@The2Cat7Guy]

I have actually started to draw recently so this gives me some motivation to continue :)

[@RepublicOfVanuatu]

im saying this as kindly as possible but most artists dont make much money

[@Matt_From_2006_Game_Wii_Sports]

Same!^^

[@Matt_From_2006_Game_Wii_Sports]

@@RepublicOfVanuatu Me when hobbies don't exist:

[@mical-9066]

@@RepublicOfVanuatu Not everything you do has to make you money.

[@maximilianwonschik1304]

@The2Cat7Guy Please continue your passion and don't be persuaded/intimidated by ai. Us Artists/non-ai-engineers are one of the only people left, who CAN and ARE GOING TO make a difference. We will show what humanity is really capable of!

[@ClayAlmighty]

The sad thing is the people who need to see this video will see it's 12 minutes long and click off because they have the attention span of a newt and can't sit down and watch something for longer than 45 seconds to a minute

[@kyperactive]

I watched it all. And I feel its massively unfounded based on the title and content it has. Yes, AI is used for dubious stuff, but so are guns. And we all know they arent banned (except for some countries). Why is that? Because guns arent inherently bad, its mostly about how its used. Self Defense? Fair game. Orphanage Clearing? Hell no. Same with AI. And yet people will hyperfocus on how its so "fake" and "steals jobs". My dog... I think it speaks volumes if code is kicking you out of your job, thats your profession, what are ya doing? And almost all the time AI is seen in a negative light, while ignoring any positives it may offer, like disabled people finally having the chance to make their visions real, or potentially helping some be able to achieve better things through some (keyword) some ofnthe advice it offers. Overall, I think its better to find a middle ground instead of going straight for the offensive when it comes to AI.

[@giornaguirne]

@@kyperactive You obviously didn't watch the video if that's your take.

[@kyperactive]

@giornaguirne Okay then, enlighten me. What did I miss that I havent seen a million times?

[@andershoff6378]

​@kyperactive guns and AI aren't equal. Is a bullet made from the souls of artist's efforts?

[@andershoff6378]

​@@giornaguirne no, they're one of those people who has to shout their opinions before they even have any context. "Your argument is false" "You haven't even heard it yet"

[@aduckwithgrapes9572]

Here is the scary deal about regulation, however; The reason why the large ai companies want AI regulation is because they are already ahead. If they can use the EU and the US governments as a "tool" to regulate new AI's out of existence (even if it comes at a cost to their own AI capabilities), there will be no chance for new, more ethical AI companies to compete with the newly established giants

[@3nertia]

Welcome to capitalism! Profits over People!

[@infinitekleal5167]

I love how we have so Many movies that Center on this topic and how it is a Bad thing, yet it hasn't stopped improving at any point now, it's totally irreversible