How Reaction Videos Ruined the Internet

[@CircleToonsHD]

This video took an unbelievable amount of hard work and time, so I rarely say this, but I'd love you FOREVER if you liked, commented and shared!! It takes 5 seconds and helps out SOOO MUCH. Also, what did you think of the video?! What's your opinion on the topic??? I'd love to hear it :) I'll be reading every comment.

[@Porkor23]

Thank you Circle for another great vid! I’m really excited to get the Fool’s Blade Cards too!!

[@buffsuki5654]

nailed it

[@pokegard]

My general opinion on the topic is: A: I hate TikTok and everything it stands for B: reaction content can be good in some cases, but definitely is a slippery slope if you aren’t careful/respectful And the video is great Edit: In got replaced with is

[@TMind109]

Video is on point, logical, and entertaining. I learned more from this Video than my 4 years in high school

[@tree-f3t]

hi circie

[@RubberRoss]

TikTok has basically shadow banned me for calling attention to the theft and now my videos there get a fraction of what they once did. While the stolen content is still doing great. Obviously everytime I bring this up someone quotes the whole 'but MrBeast said steal my content' thing. Well when you aren't MrBeast and your content needs those eyeballs to pay for editors, that logic falls apart. Also the amount of people who think those accounts are me is insane. I regularly get congratulated by friends on a viral tiktok even when I haven't posted anything. What happens when these accounts start taking brand deals or using their identity theft to prey on fans? I've tried to get verified to at least put some kind of protection up here, but I've been denied every time. I'm represented by a big agency called CAA, even they have been told they won't verify me. These accounts are rapidly becoming bigger than my own. Seriously fuck TikTok. Anyways man. Thanks for the great video and insight.

[@noobynoob138]

huh, 60 seconds ago..... It's weirdly otherworldly seeing the comment of someone so well known, when that comment hasn't been moticed by many people yet. It's such a simple thing, but it makes me rethink my own opinions on social status. Like your content and agree with your points tho.

[@tobiasbayer4866]

There is nothing I hate more than the "but this already huge and successful creator said stealing is fine!" defense. The only reason they are saying that is because they are already so big that it doesnt hurt them and/or they steal themselves and want to justify doing it.

[@abc1236092]

TikTok is trash. I never went on it and will continue to stay off.

[@khajandes2066]

@@abc1236092 I have never agreed more in my life.

[@matowakan]

@@abc1236092 old

[@EndThusIAm]

Seeing you upload something so long compared to your usual content already tells me that this means something to you. Always great to see these kinds of videos.

[@concept5631]

Indeed

[@Terrinist]

we need to be like these people, who aren't money greedy people

[@BlueLightningHawk]

I think getting paid for your work means a lot to most people lol

[@RyanSoltani]

@@BlueLightningHawklol fr

[@carlsoll]

Yeah, this means *War*

[@Timeless_Tim]

Sad to say, but as an animator, I know the feeling. It takes us hundreds of hours just to make a single video. I've dedicated my life into this craft. Countless days without sleep. Countless hours of coming up with fresh ideas.

[@inkchariot6147]

Ayo Tim

[@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819]

You spend hours of your life pouring your energy into a project and some jackass just stares at it and somehow makes more money than you. Really makes you proud of humanity, huh?

[@Colorstormfur]

I know the feeling working my ass off to keep the lights on with my other job so I can continue my passion...even being late on rent this month...

[@Goremize]

What's interesting here is that even if an animator spent thousands of dollars, years, got a group together, worked on this project with all their heart and soul If someone like Markiplier reacted to it, they would get all the views while having done no work while your animation sits in the hundreds. But youtube or tiktok or any of these sites have always been a popularity contest. it doesn't matter what you do, it matters how popular you are. People will defend popular people as if they knew them when they don't, as if the popular people cared about them which they don't. Some fans seem to defend popular people as if their lives depend on them for some reason. Which always kinda sucks. It would be nice if true good works would be promoted by the original creators on KZbin. It would be nice if KZbin never recommended popular people or reaction vids. Give other people a chance.

[@liamsteffens9687]

yoo tim The g

[@Impactor-it1pl]

I like how in the beginning Sssniperwolf is depicted as a trash can, because it is entirely true

[@kreiskhaos8516]

I've never watched her. Thought Sssniperwolf was a dude, honestly. Godalmighty, we fell down the wrong timeline.

[@NayrAnur]

Ssslopperwolf

[@Juju2927]

I think the worst about this whole ordeal is the "encouraging" aspect of it. It's one thing to have everyone and their mothers do reaction videos. But it's getting worst when the platform in charge of hosting, and paying the content creators, to tell them "That's the right method to get rewarded and if you don't, tough luck."

[@Burn2themall]

Especially when the platform itself tends to barely even pay the creators who's content is bringing people back and when it's stolen that creator loses the revenue that could have been theird

[@shawklan27]

​​​@@Burn2themall sucks when channels under a 1,000 subs gets their content stolen by the big ones it just pisses me the fuck off considering they will benefit so much from the exposure but get no credit

[@devilmikey00]

Not only telling them it's the right method but streamlining and providing them tools to expedite the process.

[@Burn2themall]

@@shawklan27 and then even with the exposure they don't get the views needed cause as circle said why watch a vid again when you just watched it? It's rare to find vids to watch on repeat sadly

[@Someone-sc2hk]

it's literally the minority of people who do reaction content.

[@SomeThingElseYT]

The payout from these platforms has always been a concern of mine along with the promotion of theft. With how little these platforms pay for these short-form videos, creators have to spam their channels with as many videos as possible to make any income. Since we see a high volume of spammed content, these platforms see a higher volume of traffic, allowing them to take these new artificially inflated numbers to investors and rake in a higher profit. The problem is that creators get paid less, these platform heads get paid more, and we see a degradation in the quality of the content provided on these platforms. This mixed with the meta currently being theft (as its the easiest form of content to spam), only works out for the heads to not do anything about it which is why I'm glad creators are finally discussing it. This video was really well put together. Good job friend

[@SomeThingElseYT]

KZbin shorts being my biggest gripe since youtube keeps advising me to focus more on it rather than my main channel stuff (i refuse).

[@isaacPc9]

Hey! Good to see you here!

[@MCKL8]

@@SomeThingElseYT I 100% agree

[@WedgeHeckenkamp]

Well said.

[@AGTaNGrA.]

Dw cuz YT is also promoting low quality and stolen content,Tik Tok didnt discover it first. KZbin has been doing it for a few years also and its getting worse + literally has no support,u cant report or complain about anything cuz YT and google "support" is AI with the intelligence of a 3yo toddler.

[@aatpg-vx5xm]

I like how you pointed out that social media and content creation used to be separate avenues of the internet, but now they’ve merged. I feel like it helps put things in perspective, so we can get a better sense of where we’ve been and where we’re going.

[@mechanicalmonk2020]

About 15 years ago. Yeah. They used to be separate. They've been one and the same for at least the past decade.

[@Someone-sc2hk]

you know, we don't have to be spectators, we can actually do something about it

[@ImNotAzure]

@@Someone-sc2hk then what is your solution lmao

[@Someone-sc2hk]

@@ImNotAzure protesting online's a good start, also spreading awareness to the major contributors (like sssniperwolf) so that hopefully we can get more and more people to not watch her or any other reaction youtubers

[@ImNotAzure]

@@Someone-sc2hki mean we're already kinda doing that

[@jjparson3506]

Duuude your rant videos are the best and this is the best one

[@swoozie]

I miss Vine. Well worded and well executed vid man.

[@myparentsaredivorced4573]

Vine was legit miles better in the fact that it was formatted to promote genuine creativity without most of the stealing part. There were like hundreds of Vines I could remember, yet I could only tell you of Tiktok sounds I remember and not the videos that played under them. If only Vine didn’t fumble so hard. Tiktok is honestly so harmful to many of us.

[@ivoneo2806]

​@@myparentsaredivorced4573(in my opinion) well yes I understand and agree Vine had those same problems as tiktok

[@mr.person1219]

I've seen so many of your videos being taken and not have you creditted.

[@BredaTreanor-wv8ch]

Vine had say more stealing like I could find more then a million stolen Brandon Rodgers videos.

[@charliemacsart]

It was a blast doing the storyboards for this one! Thanks to everyone for watching and sharing this, and congrats to the entire crew for putting together such a great video!

[@TheAzulmagia]

The unfortunate part is that someone is going to make a reaction video to this.

[@decaf9150]

It came together to be a masterpiece, I can see the fun that was had in creating it lmao

[@RyanSoltani]

@@TheAzulmagiait’s inevitable

[@Ditsick]

"WE ARE LEARNING ABOUT THE PLESIOSAURUS!" The plesiosaurus, not a dinosaur: That killed me

[@RiverWilliamson]

I'm relieved that I'm not the only one

[@itsgonnabeanaurfromme]

So someone who is interested in dinosaurs is not allowed to talk about or learn about any creature from that period? Aside from the ones that are regarded as non-avian dinosaurs?

[@Ditsick]

@@itsgonnabeanaurfromme Sorry if that got to you. I didn't mean to attack anyone, what I intended to say was just that it's not a dinosaur. I would never mind if someone talked about them, and it would be petty to ask that dinosaurs are always separated from other big creatures from the same era. A lot of people tend to not realize though, and lump every creature under the term "dinosaur". I'm just waving a flag to make people notice that dinosaur is a very specific term and doesn't apply to any prehistorical animal, because it wasn't specified. Of course I'm not asking either that it's always specified. I think just a single comment to say it is enough in many cases. However, I would like you not to take it too personal every time. It is a single comment made with no malicious intentions, only to point a specific detail for those who aren't aware that dinosaur is a term that exclusively designates terrestrial creatures, amongst other criterias. If you're interested, here are the other criterias: as you'd expect, a dinosaur is a reptile. However, some of them developed feathers on top of scales for insulation purpose, or for gliding. None of them actually flew, though. They are only terrestrial, although there are a few borderline examples like the ones that glide, or the spinosaurus that lived very close to an aquatic lifestyle. Then they have parasagittal limbs, which means the rear members are parallel to front members. This allows faster running and nowadays many quadrupeds have the same feature. Also, they belong to a group called archosauruses. It includes the ancestors of crocodiles and many other reptilian categories. Finally, they have to have lived during the Mesozoic, also called the Secondary. It's the second era of life on Earth. If a species didn't live during that era, they're ruled out of being a dinosaur. We're currently in the Quaternary era, the fourth one. Birds aren't dinosaurs. Some people like to word it that way, but it's entirely false. Birds aren't reptiles, they didn't live during the Mesozoic, they're not terrestrial creatures and their limbs aren't parasagittal. A better way to word it is that bird descend from dinosaurs, but it's not accurate either. Birds only evolved from a single dinosaur, that was part of one of two divergences of one of the two main classes of dinosaurs. This single animal that evolved into a bird has all the credits for it. The fact that it was also a dinosaur is irrelevant, but people are stuck on mentioning this fun fact over and over. Dinosaurs were separated into 2 categories, "bird hips" and "reptile hips". Fun fact: the animal that evolved into birds wasn't even part of the "bird hips" faction, but that of the "reptile hips". There are many other details that make it completely disconnected to claim that birds descend from dinosaurs. This is the kind of general misconceptions that I want to prevent, even if just a little. So please don't get offended from a single comment made in all good will.

[@Leeloo-Foxx]

@@Ditsick damn. thats allot of words. too bad i aint reading them.

[@Lavenderdrago]

The plesiosaurus isn’t a dinosaur?!

[@TwoGalxy]

“IT CAME FROM MY LUNGS AND MY HEART”. This dude is mad funny. I like that you’re getting more recognition, been watching you for a while!!

[@gene8447]

Please say one unique thing. Please.

[@TwoGalxy]

you can buy lungs that are plushies@@gene8447

[@Chimpin_]

@@gene8447 he literally proved the entire point of the video but in word form 😂😂

[@sicawhoremanchester6821]

Bro its a comment section on a video, we are more than welcome to quote the video​ to iterate what we found most enjoyable in the video. Why does every idiot on the platform these days think a comment has to be so deep that is changes someone's life? @gene8447

[@gene8447]

@@sicawhoremanchester6821 local commenter entirely misses the point.

[@RoomieOfficial]

Great video! hear hear! I wish the platforms would create ways for creators to mark original videos available for reactions with a revenue split (and a way to block em if undesired). There's a lot of technicalities to sort out there, but they've been able to do something like it for record labels when the incentives were there 👀

[@DDann99]

I'd love to see a "Allowed to be reacted to" and "this Channel allows this" to their videos. It would be a great help to reaction channels to be aware If people can react to their videos and know If they can show the video on their reactions and know If they can monetize It.

[@DDann99]

@Leeloo_the_fox indeed, nowadays plataforms like KZbin and Twitch are only after the money instead of helping the majority of the content creators.

[@unfathomablyunfathomable]

@@DDann99 Twitch is doing anything they can for money since they have been actively loosing a bunch of money for ages (for some reason). The only reason Twitch still exists is Amazon constantly giving them money.

[@AdamsDuhStuff]

Most of these punks don't even link to the original videos. Do you really think they want to do revenue share?

[@weirdo3116]

I wish people would properly define "original". Cause at a certain point nothing is original.

[@SadToffee]

The issue isn't just that you won't watch the original after watching a reaction. It's that the reaction content is pushed more by the algorithms because react channels have a higher concentration of high quality content uploaded faster and at higher volumes than the channels who actually create the content in the first place.

[@trajectoryunown]

You're making a case for only watching reaction channels here. "We've pre-screened content to ensure quality entertainment so you don't have to! Why waste time subscribing to someone else when up to half of their videos aren't even that entertaining?"

[@SadToffee]

@@trajectoryunown yes I am! This is why they're effective! On a surface level they are a better option! They steal all the good shit and bundle it into a nice neat package. But they don't create! They just steal! And slowly dry up the well of actual creative people to steal from until it's empty.

[@cadenglass1387]

That is why I do it ​@@trajectoryunown.

[@jackbequick]

@@trajectoryunown let's kill off the content altogether, right?

[@trajectoryunown]

@@jackbequick Nah, I was just pointing out that SadToffee isn't actually making the case they think they're making here. Reaction channels can actually serve a valuable purpose in generating what's called "earned advertisement", spreading awareness about things that other people might not encounter. It also helps boost entire subjects in algorithms for social media feeds. This works _particularly_ well for little bits of information or advertisement for video games, music, and artists. However, it's intensely negative for long-form videos or content where the main draw is a story... The kind of stuff you would normally enjoy alone and wouldn't seek to revisit and share with friends. It's detrimental in that case. This whole genre is actually very nuanced. Properly thought out reaction channels can create a mutually beneficial ecosystem for all involved parties.. However, poorly thought out ones created with lazy and selfish intentions waste valuable server storage and pollute our collective unconscious. Just like any low-brow content, really.

[@idontknowhowtouseblender]

Circletoons throwing it back took me by surprise I was showing it to my friends

[@hamishmudford6762]

I actually did the ten minute "challenge" that circle talked about to see how original my feeds were on different apps. About 18% of yt shorts I saw in the ten minutes were unoriginal, 48% of tiktoks were unoriginal, and 65% of Instagram reels were completely unoriginal.

[@mishagaming1075]

Well atleast youtube shorts haven't yet fully transformed into tiktok.

[@taphy4873]

@@mishagaming1075”yet” being the keyword

[@nathangaspacio6128]

went on instagram reels and around 75% were copied, 15% had some originality but copied ideas or used audio, and 10% were actually completely new content.

[@AtraxX98]

@@mishagaming1075they are worse, BY FAR. It’s a good thing cause even I get annoyed after watching the tenth stupid, worthless, Ai voiced video short. TikTok’s algorithm keeps me for hours on the Plattform, that’s why I deleted it a year ago. Sometimes I reinstall it to look what’s going on but as soon as I start watching, my brain starts to rot.

[@oefest]

@@mishagaming1075 oh they're trying!!

[@Spooder_Man1421]

Circle, good luck not getting doxxed by sssniperwolf for preaching yhe truth

[@Gildedshadowassasin]

Yet…

[@JokukranTheileochy]

Who is sssniperwolf, and what did they do?

[@ImNotAzure]

@@JokukranTheileochy doxxed a youtuber called jacksfilms and got away with it because she's getting youtube money

[@JokukranTheileochy]

@@ImNotAzure Yeah I just researched her and it's f*cked up what kind of things she did and that KZbin let's her get away with it.

[@ajayajith5816]

​​@@JokukranTheileochy I know, it's stupid how KZbin just let her off like that, hope these type of people face judgement day. . .

[@hopefulhyena3400]

I got so sad when the doxxing happened and youtube just rolled over and let her win. I haven't been able to watch Jack since because it's just so depressing. The bad guy won.

[@nerdtuga9180]

Luckily SSSniperwolf's "temporary" demonetization is getting closer and closer to permanent. It's still not a full deplatforming, which would've been preferable, but it's something.

[@sociallyundead419]

People are still commenting with what she did on every video she makes. If people stay stubborn it'll be clear this won't blow over.

[@F-Lambda]

ugh, that was *her*?

[@AdamsDuhStuff]

Sssniperwolf finally made original content and you all lost your minds

[@sociallyundead419]

@@AdamsDuhStuff Isn't s3xu@lly manipulating minors overdone on KZbin? I think she's still copycatting! Haha... ugh. I laugh because if I don't I will start crying.

[@NaveaDraws]

Love your videos. Your sense of humor, writing, performance, animation just *chef's kiss*. Magnifique. Honestly, getting Genie from Aladdin vibes. Thank you and keep doing what you're doing.

[@ClangGames]

I’m so happy to see so many people communicating about how bad KZbin shorts and tiktok are for every bit of the internet

[@lordmarshmal_0643]

Shoutout to JJJacksfilms for also working to combat the theft craze in his own way by turning his reaction content into a creator's workshop of sorts It's something you voluntarily submit content to and he'll provide as much genuinely good constructive criticism as he can muster, everyone wins!

[@itskdog]

JJJacksfilms was a parody from the start, Jack's been calling out reaction channels all the way back to RWJ.

[@AdamsDuhStuff]

​@@itskdogfor those who don't know, RWJ is Ray William Johnson.

[@CringusMcDingus]

@@itskdogdid you know Jacksfilms got doxxed by ssniperwolf?

[@JenyaFio]

@@CringusMcDingus I'm sure he already is, alongside many others.

[@DeosPraetorian]

​@@itskdogyeah but I mean his whole thing was showing clips and making jokes about them.

[@seanbordier8168]

The animations in this video felt like they were more alive than usual. Not sure if it was the complex emotions you were trying to convey or something else, but it looked awesome!!! Thank you for making great content :)

[@illpunchyouintheface9094]

He probably made it better then normal to help convey the idea of hard work and originality is way better then stealing.

[@Robonauta]

Dunno about Circle, but when I'm pissed at something, my drawings of said thing come out real fast and easy, making my "emotional point" super clear, too.

[@Lahatyn]

Awesome stuff! Very well put together and articulated.

[@GupUnderscore]

I’m so glad this is being mentioned and talked about, my good friend AliveWake makes AMAZING video game art. Chances are most of you reading this have seen his Ultrakill, elden ring art or his commission from slimecicle for Jort storm (it’s the art on Spotify). The issue is people keep taking his art and putting some music over it and getting way more attention than he is. He wants to do more with his art and try to be a content creator but isn’t getting enough support and doesn’t have enough money to do so. It takes zero effort to steal someone else’s work and repost it with “omg cool thing” and get alot more attention than the original creator. Idk what we need to do to change all this but there needs to be a change.

[@Calbeck]

I feel so much happier that I never used TikTok EVEN ONCE and limit my KZbin Short content to creatives I actually enjoy.

[@nickkohlmann]

Same.

[@BinglesP]

YES SAME If I ever get a TikTok account, I will never watch a single thing on there. I'll just post a single video promoting my other stuff(bc TikTok manipulates ppl by making their first video reach more people for a chasing-the-dragon motive) and I won't scroll down For You for a single second.

[@victorlinares4137]

Same a avoid it like the plague. Even when it very first showed up i instantly recognized the low effort garbage that harbored it

[@Sadcat-xd7qs]

Hell yeah

[@amazingnoo9935]

Same.

[@Pobert69]

DarkViperAU made an incredible series about the parasitic nature of react content that I believe everyone should watch. Such a good argument about react content and how it harms literally everyone except the reactor on KZbin. I know of nobody who has actually watched every video without having their mind changed

[@KIWI_DUDE.]

That man puts so much effort into that series. It sucks that it was misrepresented even before it got made into a video, by a reaction channel no less.

[@Meloncholiac]

"13 PAGGEEESSSS!!!1!"

[@kup1hu696]

14

[@manelneedsaname1773]

Oh god yes, such a good and well argumented series

[@pstm53]

@@Meloncholiac14 PAGES!!! FOUR TEEN

[@Idiotdragon8]

One of the reasons I love your videos is because every joke I could wish was in the video is in the video. You crack some really clever jokes and leave them in the background, without calling much attention to them. Well done.

[@GooseToe]

This was a certified knee slapper as well as a really well said, animated, voice acted and overall created video. I've been making videos for most of my life and always did it as a way to self express and to become better at something and the reason I'm making content with creativity to it is because I grew up on creators who made really amazing videos that inspired me to create something in the hopes I could make something as good someday. I feel bad for all the young people who are exposed to low quality and stolen content for the most part and never feel that excitemend and inspiration from incredible videos because they only use youtube shorts, tiktok and instagram reels and don't get that impact that long format has had on me.

[@PikaPetey]

god... i've been feeling this for a LONG time but have never been able to put into worlds without me looking like "old man yelling at clouds" ass. Thank you for drawing attention to this maddness.

[@kazulitheseawing3284]

Vine was the golden age of short-form content. Not only was the content EXTREMELY digestible, it was also incredibly easy to share. I remember vines being used to express certain reactions. Back then, Vine was basically the new version of reaction gifs.

[@icaughtalopunny]

Then Twitter walked in, bought it, chewed it up and spat it onto the floor

[@eisgnom7383]

Vine sucked. People only got popular for being pretty, it was granted the mercy of death before this recent shitflood.

[@unfathomablyunfathomable]

@@icaughtalopunny And then came Elon, who did the same thing to twitter :)

[@DarkSamael55]

@@eisgnom7383 I think you're mistaken vine with tik tok. The most popular vines were just jokes and memes. While on tik tok, people can basically be nude and twerk. Haven't seen such thing in vine

[@joedav67]

@@icaughtalopunnyVine was never gonna be profitable. Drew Gooden gave a good explanation why

[@oswaldlucky168]

I haven’t watched your videos in a long while, seeing the animation you did in this one really blew me away man, this is some really fluid and cool animations.

[@Vrile]

The biggest thing is I don’t think people realise how long it takes to create videos, sometimes they take up to 50+ hours for just a 15 min video… When you think of that aspect and have that experience, you start feeling really bad for the people whos content is unwillingly getting stolen

[@Darca1n]

You shouldn't even need to think that far to be pissed off at the theft, theft is theft and it's screwing over the actual creators bigtime.

[@Vrile]

@@Darca1n Oh yeah I agree, but by putting it in a bigger perspective you’re able to get people to understand the level of creativity and craftsmanship that is needed for videos to be made.

[@gumerzambrano]

Why would the average consumer even keep in mind how long videos take to make. We have our own issues to worry about

[@Vrile]

@@gumerzambrano Well that’s just the problem I’m talking about, if people know the time and effort it took they would most likely respect it more. At this time people don’t

[@gumerzambrano]

@@Vrile of course people should be more respectful. But this is the internet we're talking about

[@kingstaze9696]

The way your little guy articulated seething rage and unbridled fury is incredible. Now I, too, am a carrier of this rage.

[@spinjitzumasterfalcon]

I agree. As an animator, I spend weeks working on an animation while others make short gag and get millions of views and revenue while creators and artists get pushed to the side. It’s unfortunate, but that’s the internet we live in. It’s also worse when it’s stolen from us.

[@handson4580]

My deepest condolences we live in a time of creative rot and animators like yourself are a dieing breed

[@Someone-sc2hk]

and that's why we have to fight against it.

[@yaibaman]

Agree with the point. Auto skip any TTS filled with random stuff. Never like reposted stuff and try to search for the original.

[@gasparsigma]

The saddest thing is that YT always had a good amount of insanely creative people but the algorithm pushed many away and the execs decided they want it to be more like TikTok, it'll get worse and worse

[@dakat5131]

Creative stuff gets suppressed so hard. Make something new and passionate? Nah, let's just have AI read reddit or make up stories about videos. Making something with care takes time while those with no care can spam a ton of stuff. And then the crowd just repeats that the algorithm somehow knows what quality content is and that if something isn't being promoted, it doesn't deserve any attention at all...as if the spam and creepy stuff is somehow world leading art.

[@Lobster_Dance]

6:18 this is the stuff that I hate, HATE so much about these social platforms and clone accounts not getting stopped, banned, or deleted (without a way to come back).

[@Arandomminor]

Yes usually sometimes some apps would ban plagiarism

[@Dollarstorestuff]

I like robert idk

[@jimbo9305]

To quote Ian Malcolm (from Jurassic Park), "You stood on the shoulders of geniuses to accomplish something as fast as you could and before you even knew what you had you patented it and packaged it and slapped it on a plastic lunchbox, and now you’re selling it, you want to sell it."

[@ABAgamer_]

Bless Ian Malcolm for having some of the best quotes from the Jurassic Park franchise.

[@jimbo9305]

@@ABAgamer_ No doubt. Even before that quote he says, "It didn't require any discipline to obtain it. You read what others had done and you took the next step." And there's the other gem that I was going to put which was, "They were so preoccupied with if they could that they didn't stopped to think if they should." It's two minutes of dialogue that is very heavy thinking material.

[@ABAgamer_]

@@jimbo9305 The more I think about it, all that great dialogue comes from ONE SCENE out of a movie with multiple just as memorable. Goes to show how well the first movie stands the test of time!

[@NerdFromColorado]

I’m sad it took me so long to find this video. I’ll be honest, I rarely ever watch KZbin Shorts (maybe once a month tops) and I’ve never downloaded a single of those other apps (TikTok, Instagram, etc.) because I could tell immediately that it was going to destroy social media for years to come. Even back when TikTok came out, I knew it was going to cause problems, and I was correct in that believe. I am glad to see not all quality content has been erased, but it’s sad that a large chunk of it has. Love your work, Circle! Glad to see someone else touching on this subject matter.

[@ivoneo2806]

I guess but I kinda disagree,Well there is a large chunk that is full of talent ,

[@NerdFromColorado]

@@ivoneo2806 Obviously, there’s a lot of talented people, I didn’t say there werent

[@davidperte62]

15 minuts of high quality animation is NUTS! Good job to you and everyone else thay helped make this, hats off 👏👏👏

[@Benjamin3490h]

Its simple animation chill the fuck out

[@LazarouDave]

Spot. The fuck. On. Respect Circle ❤️ I can't even highlight one specific part of this video that stood out for accuracy, because ALL OF IT hit the bullseye, nail on the head, and flawlessly accurate. And god damn you're so right about that fucking voice at the end, drives me insane just hearing it. Every day I'm just glad I never fell into TikTok like so many others did (It was even heavily attached to my University dissertation, and it stood out as by far one of the worst platforms, even though I did a shit job of exploring it, I got the gist as to why, with the predatory algorithm part of it being front and center...)

[@D44RK_Iced_Yogs]

I can’t imagine how long this took!! I also can’t imagine the pain of losing your content to someone else and not being able to do anything. I really hope it’ll change but I doubt it ever will because of how much of it is a uphill battle. Best we can do is keep fighting and hope the pirates will go back to pirating games and not content.

[@Mrhellslayerz]

Considering how AI users argue that it's ok to just simply mix a bunch of "samples" together to make a new thing without even mentioning where they got said "samples", or who provided said "samples", I doubt this will change any time soon.

[@Someone-sc2hk]

"not being able to do anything" recently, Jacksfilms (which, at this point we all know about his fight agains reaction content) has recently made a video where he mentioned one creator who got their content stolen, but he then reported it to yt, and surprisingly, it worked, his clip was removed from the sssniperwolf video, so there is something we can do about it.

[@windacream8028]

I’m sorry this showed up so late in my feed thank you for making this. Feels so validating as a content creator to see others acknowledge how horrible this situation has become.

[@tobydavidson957]

I could not agree more, I'm sick of seeing actual talent and effort being overshadowed by the laziest soulless content imaginable, it makes me sick. Thank you for calling this out

[@AzraelEntertainment]

The funniest thing to me was when multiple reactors declined debating and defending their argument against people like DarkViperAU (who has very informative, well researched and strongly argued videos showing in detail the terrible reality of react "content"), and we all know why they declined, they know that they can not in any rational way defend what is the dictionary definition of theft, rather than content

[@godqueensadie]

They're all disingenuous, dense mf-ers

[@mohamedbelkacem9889]

Mauler did a podcast with destiny and invited XQC to talk about this, and it was difficult to watch

[@TawnyGryn]

They chose to attack the 'date rape' part of his argument

[@joevile240]

​@@mohamedbelkacem9889 That was hard to get through, but the EFAP converage of Twitch reactors is great.

[@mohamedbelkacem9889]

@@joevile240 thank you for the hard work of going through it

[@nokolo9038]

The anger at the end was not only his, it was everyones hearing that voice. We all pooled our anger together to destroy that phone.

[@_Lax_]

Been watching Circle since the day all the animations we got were just him moving his drawings around plus voice overs. Never been so proud of our boi!

[@Aryan-hm2nk]

its so f*cking true and its annoying and the worst part is that youtube is forcing us to watch shorts by opening shorts the moment you open the app or straight up put a short after scrolling down a bit

[@OkamiToge]

They also got rid of the option for me to NOT recommend channels watching shorts as well and report as spam for a ton of spam crap.

[@MayaPosch]

I installed some add-ons to nuke shorts in KZbin (tab & more), and have never been happier. It's like they don't exist any more.

[@shawklan27]

Plus dem unskippable ads and even when you pick the stop showing this ad option I still get those annoying ads repeated.

[@joe564338]

Revanced is your friend

[@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas]

I believe the app only opens on Shorts if you close the app while watching one

[@adeactivated]

As someone who makes art and videos, any sort of theft is genuinely one of my worst fears.

[@Legoguy9875]

Despite all of their shortcomings and problems, I have to admit that Fine Bros did more for reaction content than anyone else has before or since their peak. They didn't just slap people down into chairs to watch videos, they also interviewed them, had them express their feelings about the topic before and after viewing the video in discussion. They also didnt just show the entire video, but just the parts where the people watching had the most interesting responses. And above all that, they also gave proper credit, showing the title and creator in both the video itself and the description with a link. It felt less like a reaction and more like a discussion piece, and I remember that being one of my favorite parts of their videos back when I watched them.

[@zenredinger278]

At 10:37 you can see a smear frame that makes circle look like a creepy pasta

[@barleysixseventwo6665]

I have seen a single "Reacts" video of any worth, and it was a Coast Guard guy watching a video on the Coasta Concordia. Because the guy actually provided things like further context and facts about seaborne rescue operations. It wasn't just a guy grunting and smiling a bunch.

[@ihatethisgame6827]

I've seen a few different types, like doctors reacting to fictional injuries, or veterans reacting to military scenes, that were really creative as well. I like those

[@Longardia]

@@ihatethisgame6827 Yes, this! Reaction videos can be transformative and this is an example. If you are an authority figure on something providing professional insight on a viral video to provide needed context, criticism, or analysis of ideas can be super interesting content. Most people wouldn't qualify as knowledgable enough on topics that interest them to a degree that they could contribute in a meaningful way. Cinema Therapy, Legal Eagle and Corridor Crew, are three channels that I feel excell at this type of content!

[@Dollarstorestuff]

I like robert idk

[@luizotavio44]

I dont mind react as much as long as theyre actually sharing their own opnionson the subject and making actual commentary and honestly like out of 100 react videos only 2 are actually transformative

[@person6117]

Nah, it’s still blatant theft and narcissism.

[@GameJam230]

Feels ironic how a content creator can have their entire life ripped out from under them if they use 5 seconds of copyrighted material, but if somebody reuploads your entire video somewhere else with a face cam overlay and saying "WOAAHHH DUUUUDE" every couple minutes, platforms will do nothing about it. Makes me think that it's more about abusing the small creators for money while helping out the companies who are already big enough to be buying advertising space.

[@3up3rn0va]

This a HUGE problem and why I am trying to stop social media use. It is SO draining by forcing reels down my throat. Tik Tok especially ruined this. Social Media used to be fun! Watching reactions, of a reactor reacting to videos is so frustrating but thats the “meta” now. I really hope that it changes but I doubt it. Which is why I’m scared to even post my own stuff for fearing of me becoming a react video 😭 It’s an endless void and it’s’ frustrating. Thank you for this video!

[@Lumberjack_king]

Are reactions ok if people ask permission

[@googleisevil8958]

That's because it's all about engagement so the companies can to advertisers and go "Look how many people watched these videos! Here are there interested to help you made more annoying ads! GIVE ME MONEY NOW!" In the end, YOU are the product. They don't care about the content on their platform, they only care about engagement.

[@wilddinofacts2073]

5:45 I would know this well, I specked into the dinosaur subclass as a child an have yet to switch

[@scpWyatt]

I think I liked this video but I wish I had somebody to watch this video for me and tell me how I should feel about it 😔😔

[@jakobi-wan6500]

I’m not a content creator (unless you count 2 random videos of me playing deep rock) or proper artist or anything, but as someone who has spent many hours building and painting tabletop minis I can certainly confirm that making something of your own with your own skill and hard work is something that really does mean something to you and I cant imagine how much it would hurt to just have it stolen and remade and ruined by random people you don’t know

[@UnemployedStormtrooper]

ROCK AND STONE

[@KirbyPlaysMinecraft]

Rock and stone, Karl would be proud

[@jakobi-wan6500]

ROCK AND STONE

[@VyouttarAnimations]

As an animator i really related to this video, btw! love your animation style and story telling ❤

[@Lonazard_Serves_Justice]

Every time I see a good video in a reaction video, I find the original, watch it through, and then like it. Sometimes I even stick around for a couple hours.

[@RiskiVR]

With you being one of my favorite animators, thank you. It's really sad to see this become the reality of social media today and I feel like not enough people are aware of it and more people need to be bringing this up. Maybe there are, and the algorithms just tend to make sure it never gets pushed to anyone, which is sad. Things are starting to feel so much more corrupted. So with the bottom of my heart, thank you for making this video.

[@ivoneo2806]

Tbf corrupt stuff and that reality of social media happened years ago too but yeah in my opinion the algorithm needs to do better

[@TacticalFunnyMan]

Holy crap, you hit *every* single point of issue that I have with stuff like KZbin Shorts! And you kept it fresh and hilarious with the little quips, jokes, and short skits scattered throughout. There were so many points where I wanted to make a KZbin Clip to send to friends, but then realized I should just send them the whole video for both the topic itself and the funny bits

[@80l08]

Pure gold, Nothing else to add. I'm 110% agreing with you and I always try to watch the original vid. You are amazing and your contents always been great.

[@DeathatronPrime]

I remember arguing with people on ticktock about "fan" accounts re-uploading every video of the original creators to get more followers/money and so many people said they were "helping them out by bringing more eyes to their content and how it was fine they pocketed some money because of it like that made it ok to do. People really show their true colors on the internet

[@Titanmster21]

11:18 CAN WE TAKE A MOMENT OF SLIENCE FOR THE FACT THAT HE HAD TO DRAW THAT

[@atarias1313]

my man really made a reference to the big caboose video from let me explain

[@Mr.Black61.]

We can only give our respect to him because he went through this horror

[@Nightslayer9991]

Rip

[@Demonmask-whatareyoulookingat]

Oh my god

[@rjseditsandcleanytps]

the fact people actually defend fursuit furries with ugly masks, is crazy

[@obsessivelychaoticdimwit9764]

I can’t imagine the pain you went through to get all the footage for this…. We salute you soldier

[@the_furf_of_july4652]

Watch parties are a very enjoyable form of social interaction for me. Getting in a discord call with a handful of close friends and watching the stuff that I personally think they would enjoy seeing has been a great and engaging way to spend our time and enjoy each other’s shared emotional responses. React streams seem like this concept except with all the actual personal relationship side of things stripped out. Another thing I enjoyed about react content before it blew up, was seeing a particular piece of media (like shows or animations or game moments), enjoying the everloving crap out of it, and looking to react videos to ride that high a bit longer, to watch other people get the joke or feel the same emotions I did while getting to rewatch the content. While this is a valid use case, it doesn’t really apply if reaction content is made the *first* exposure to the media. One thing I feel would help is normalization of “watch the original first”, if more platforms *by default* had an easy to use link to the original content.

[@crazydrunkenirishdude6503]

Watch the original first still doesn't solve the issue, these videos of reactions somehow have millions of views, this pushes it in the algorithm and gets rid of actual creators having the possibility of getting their video clicked on, there is a limited amount of videos that KZbin can show a person on the homepage, therefore having any react videos damages everyone.

[@LittleDanny9899]

@@crazydrunkenirishdude6503 I mean that once agein is a bit to broad of a statement. i Generaly dont watch React content exept for one dude Well his Reaction to a Video tends to be 2 minutes of video to React to in a 30 minute video where he Talks about things Relatet to that (In his case he Was a Former Soldier in the Us Military and mostly reacts to things that fit in some way with his Background)

[@reystlin7789]

I feel you. I completely acknowledge the fact what a disaster reaction content has become. But I can’t stop watching it. I’m not talking about KZbin shorts or Tik-Tok, but rather about an hour long reactions to my favorite series or something. It’s my guilty pleasure.

[@the_furf_of_july4652]

@@LittleDanny9899 "Experts React"-type content is honestly great! It's very enjoyable seeing an expert in a field praise something relating to it in a game or animation. There are too many examples to count. But I genuinely think the world is better with that content than without it. That doesn't excuse low effort reacts in the slightest, though.

[@drewo.127]

YES YES 9000% YES! While it’s not quite the same, the edutainment coding platform Scratch allows people to remix each other’s projects, but whenever they do, the site automatically provides a handy link to a visual aid to see how many people remixed it, if what you’re watching is a remix, and of course, the original version at the root of all the iterations! And each username on the visual is a link to each respective version! If KZbin, TwitterX, and TikTok had an easy, automatic link to the original and/or the requirement for creators to leave a link to the original source of a reaction or other video, that can certainly help! It’s not perfect, (and Scratch is not the same kind of website as places like KZbin, Rumble, or even Newgrounds) but it would be a good start!

[@Asidchild]

Hey CT, on the off chance you see this comment, I just want to say that I unironically appreciate your voice mixing. The fact that you manage to deliver a frenetic, often manic, aggressively emotive speaking voice throughout your videos and I (to a point) don’t get completely burnt out listening to them tells me a lot about your attention to the finer points of your editing. That, and your shouting not blowing out your levels or decibel ceiling. Really, you make the bonkers peak heavy delivery go down easier than many creators on this platform who can’t even make their speaking timbre and zero-silence-between-vocal-track splicing bearable (IF YOUR MOUTH DIDN’T HAVE TIME TO BREATHE BETWEEN SENTENCES THEN MY BRAIN DIDN’T HAVE TIME TO ABSORB WHAT YOU SAID FOR GOD’S SAKE STOP CUTTING YOUR EDITS WITH ADDERALL.EXE) Anyway great stuff, man. I resonate with your style a lot and it’s fun to hear your thoughts on media come straight from the heart, even if your heart is yelling.

[@theflyinghandofloob2062]

The only reaction video from large creators I regularly watch are reactions to Nintendo directs because it’s so much fun to see them get excited to seeing sequels or new projects involving their favorite game franchises get announced. Even if I’m not the biggest fan of a certain series, seeing someone else get excited over it, just adds to the enjoyment for me.

[@KUwUpa]

Agree, I think reactions to announcements for games and movies are still valid since it's relatively easy to say something of your own opinion for a game or movie trailer. I just don't watch reactions to individual content creation anymore since I'd rather support the original creation.

[@Soup-Boot]

Not sure what else I can say to truly contribute to the conversation, but I appreciate that you, with the massive platform you have, are not afraid to voice your opinions, despite it being an overall risk to your channel's statistics. You have proven that you care more about the state of the world than your channel's longevity. Due to this, you have earned my respect, my like, and my subscription. You deserve it. :)

[@Pownchao]

After taking some time away from being online, it really feels refreshing to not have a constant noise. I feel ya on the part about how accessible it is to create and share now: it’s great for many creative people, but it’s also allowed plenty of junk to surface, because it is also rewarded. These are all things I think about, every point you brought up is important to consider. Thanks for sharing your thoughts (I will now proceed to steal- uh, I mean react to this video)! ☺️

[@thejeanlouw]

5:38 All valid points, but damn if I don't NEED to know what happened toe Georgie?! Please make a follow up.

[@bakawaki]

Holy shit, this is refreshing. The promotion of rampant stealing and lazy "content" is god damn depressing. 9:01 absolutely, the majority of the time the original creator hardly sees any reactor viewers trickle down to them, and that's if they're lucky to be credited in the first place. The boring truth is that this is just an excuse to let these reactors continue reacting and making money.

[@caseys2698]

this is an instant add to my Favorites playlist- you make fantastic points, and WOW is the animation even more incredible than your usual high bar of great stuff. Could tell before reading your comment that yeah this took a lot of effort! and it paid off! proud of how far you've come from the simple dragging-around-a-face-in-Photoshop videos in terms of animation (because the humor has always been phenominal)! cheers! :)

[@bearlogg7974]

Remember when KZbin screwed over every single animation account by going from favouring clicks to watch time to combat re-reply channels only to later make the whole site about re-replying. Truly stunning

[@cosmicspacething3474]

Why not just have all those things be factors?

[@ContrastCopy]

@@cosmicspacething3474I think they are, it’s just the importance of each is shifted greatly.

[@Skareware]

great video! im genuinely blown away by the quality of both the animation and the script

[@Otasan0815]

So true. We as consumers must pin point content theft when when spot it and help the original creators by giving them credit, if we notice. Content thiefs won't stop by them selves until they notice a change in consumer behavior.

[@brendenlatkovich7016]

This is a great video about this conversation, I hope it reaches a lot of people and thank you animators for continuing to make such smooth art.

[@PowerPalette]

This video was phenomenal! Thank you for making a video like this. More people need to be encouraged to create in a fulfilling way. Your stuff has really improved since the last time I watched, and you should know that doesn't go unnoticed or unappreciated!!

[@carlosdelapenavelazquez5686]

I would love to see a reaction video of this. In an honest opinion, thanks for doing content and explain opinions with reason and arguments, always glad to see people doing a point in the right way. Hope to keep seeing your vids. Greetings from México. ✌️

[@legogenius22]

My playlist of videos where people are speaking out against plagiarism and the miserable state created by the current nature of online "content" has another perfect addition. Really, truly hope videos like this will continue to be made, recieve the attention they deserve and by proxy allow viewers and consumers the chance to understand the problem and strive to fix it or at least not add to it. Great work circle.

[@sirbaconbuster]

You wouldn't happen to have a link to that playlist, would you?

[@BigSizzle69]

DarkviperAU is the goat of trashing on reactors

[@dreamdev_yt3339]

original: 53 stolen: 47 watched: 100 those were the response to 14:10 for my feed

[@TheTalentlessWriter]

Definitely feel the point at 7:35, I’ve made a few commentary videos like that where I react to Dhar Mann clone videos and even though I threw in jokes and stuff I still felt like I didn’t actually “make” anything. I’m more proud of my 7 second sh*tposts than those videos. This video so good and I can’t imagine how long it took but thank you and the goblin team for making it 🙏

[@Uopra]

Talentlesswriter sighting

[@blinkfraid]

the unhinged skit with the cop earned my follow and the informational portions will keep me around. Thank you for sharing this and working so hard to animate this.

[@Mudkip971]

You know I absolutely hate vertical videos, I avoid them as much as possible.

[@bluwasabi7635]

here, here! They look disgusting and often act like cognitive poison.

[@jesusramirezromo2037]

Same, they're a disgusting aspect ratio

[@juanalvarado4723]

14:32 okay i love how expressive this moment is both animation-wise and voice acting-wise. Like it’s just too good I get like Genie from Aladdin vibes rn it’s so good

[@RealValkor]

It really feels refreshing to see such a brutally honest video like this being updated, keep it going bro.

[@maggot-oj5kh]

Always love these longer videos

[@skart1]

I do my absolute best to make original content regardless if people watch it or not, and I was slowly feeling like my stuborness of "self made" was stupid and I should do more trendy stuff instead. so I'm really glad I saw this video, it gave me back a lot of my pride in the work I do. Thank You CircleToon 🙏

[@imemailaa1092]

You should do some real work.

[@chrism4403]

You have less than 30 subscribers lol, your opinion doesn't mean shit

[@HeisenbergFam]

I can imagine reaction channels stretching this 15 min video to 1 hour

[@Kokong]

That would require them to add something new.

[@Angry_Bean]

@@Kokong All it takes is a couple of bathroom breaks, stop the video a few times and ask chat what they think about it and say "That's crazy" a few times.

[@hipunpun]

Some do, notably Asmongold tends to pause every 5 minutes and ramble on for 15 But you're 100% right that there are some that will leave the video running while AFK

[@computethis1533]

@@hipunpuneven then, he is still one of the worst offenders, he takes the entire video, talks about the same video DURING the video, it’s a direct substitute for the original, and he shamelessly reuploads these stolen videos multiple times a day

[@ARClegend]

This video but every minute it's interrupted by family guy funny clips

[@cln4m36]

I have the opposite issue of most people on the internet, I cant stop watching videos over 30minutes or at least above 10 mins because they simply feel like they have more substance and weight to them, I find them meaningful while those shorts are basically drugs that turn your brain into a mush. I have never downloaded tiktok or accessed that website for once in my life and I actively avoid shorts. Which to be honest, it feels amazing because I am hundred percent aware that I am missing nothing. Most short contents are monetary tricks generated by the knowledge we have about human brain and how it functions.

[@blobdestroyer1792]

There are a few funny ones out there, but by a few, I mean very very few. I only watch what my friends send me, since someone else with a similar sense of humor has already deemed it funny enough to be worth going out of their way to share.

[@SynthAir]

I had a similar experience after growing up reading bite-sized news articles, and then ended up reading a very lengthy article one day (can't remember what publication--maybe the New Yorker?) and realized all the detail and nuance I was missing with these articles that are 2-5 paragraphs long. By the way, can you recommend any channels with long videos? I love channels that investigate a particular topic in detail. For example, LEMMiNO

[@anarchistlilia]

few weeks ago I remembered a youtuber (his channell is basicly dead tho)that I used to watch enthuastichly as a child I wanted to rewatch one of his series about civ beyond earth and basicly all of the videos are like 30 mins long mostly unedited with like 20 episodes I just watched 2 episodes and decided to drop there man I use to watch like 5 of thoose episodes in one go and even dreaded that after I have watched this I wouldnt have anything to watch for a while

[@puckelberry]

The problem is the short stuff is the equivalent of snacks. Brilliant to scroll through when you've only got a minute or two but when you're not doing anything they can become a prolonged scrollathon

[@Hero_Alyoka]

Thank you for voicing this problem. It hurts me too.

[@MaccusNormann]

Thank you for this, dude. I've been pretty down about trying to continue along the content creator route, and this just pushed me to keep going, at least a bit farther.

[@wondaraptor]

I appreciate you actually animating your videos so much

[@MelodicaDude]

there's far more to critique about the trend towards lazy, low effort gratification posting than can really be summed up in a video or comment, but you did a great job at covering the outline of it here. what really brought my attention to this issue was Getting Over It with Bennett Foddy back in like, 2014. it is sincerely worth looking up a transcript or watching the full monologue from that game. the concept of putting such sincere and passionate writings behind the facade of a recycled rage game both helps his point, and also made it pretty easy to overlook what he was saying there. it's really stuck with me all these years and shifted me much more towards a focus in crediting those who MAKE what they put out

[@TessahEtcheverry]

I randomly got recommended your palworld video and im so glad I did. You are hilarious and I am now three videos is with another queued up XD. Thank you for the hard work.

[@trobihn]

Honestly a really perfect video discussing reaction content! What you said at 7:47 really summarizes the issue I have with reaction content as a whole: It's built on the backs of people who created the content you reacted to in the first place. The lines of what is transformative and what isn't when it comes to reaction content has been blurred for a looong time now, and I hate that EVERYONE has been doing this. If you're making a reaction video, unless it's a video where your reaction actually matters (like a tribute or something) then it is just not content. It's theft. More people ought to call out big creators for doing this honestly. It isn't just people like xQc or SSSniperwolf who are contenders, even respected creators on the platform like Critikal have been doing this. Really good video, thanks for delving into this topic.

[@futuza]

Wow I thought I was just getting 15 minutes of a rant, but you animated almost all of it!? This is amazing.

[@Sybir.]

This video, despite it's rather important discussion yet somewhat depressing topic, will be another great source of quality channel recommendations. Thank you for making this video and I hoped it helps.

[@nuzlokenolan2943]

Dude I love this video, you can tell so much passion and effort went into it.