Have Pokémon Designs Gotten Worse Over Time?

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@CircleToonsHD
@CircleToonsHD Жыл бұрын
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@Mr.TLN1
@Mr.TLN1 Жыл бұрын
Favourite is paras and least is Pikachu
@MothFable
@MothFable Жыл бұрын
Aegislash and torracat are tied for first place. I hate wugtrio tho.
@penguinclub2008
@penguinclub2008 Жыл бұрын
Coffing
@EpicPummelYT
@EpicPummelYT Жыл бұрын
Fuecoco & quaxly
@r.mictal
@r.mictal Жыл бұрын
Eevee Groudon
@Frostgnaw
@Frostgnaw Жыл бұрын
Clearly the biggest issue is that Dunsparce doesn't have a 3-stage evolution line.
@cameronweaver2013
@cameronweaver2013 Жыл бұрын
GF just adds another segment 😅
@gregvs.theworld451
@gregvs.theworld451 Жыл бұрын
We were done (Dun hehe) so dirty so wanting a Dunsparce evolution for so long. I remember seeing cool mockups of Dunsparce becoming a cool European style fantasy dragon but still having the dumb Dunsparce face and ahhhh why couldn't we have had that?
@greenhowie
@greenhowie Жыл бұрын
Dunsparce and Shuckle got done dirty.
@ConairHockey
@ConairHockey Жыл бұрын
I think it would be cool if every Dunsparce was a Arceus larva and whenever Arceus dies it’s soul goes into one of the Dunsparce.
@pspauloplayz4295
@pspauloplayz4295 Жыл бұрын
@@ConairHockey bro its a dunsparce
@taru6342
@taru6342 Жыл бұрын
The lack of dynamic posses for monsters is and was a problem dragon quest never had, that's because they simply didn't take them out of their posses when transitioning them into 3D.
@PteranoLiv
@PteranoLiv Жыл бұрын
My boio Incineroar still has an action pose an amazing one at that
@Drstrange3000
@Drstrange3000 Жыл бұрын
Yes, the dynamic poses really help. Without them, the Pokémon lose the energy and liveliness.
@moosesues8887
@moosesues8887 Жыл бұрын
W dragon quest
@blitzer9002
@blitzer9002 Жыл бұрын
Every pokemon should have some dynamic pose An example is hariyama Hariyama always has that pose with both palms facing the opposite direction it never gets old
@Party0productions0
@Party0productions0 Жыл бұрын
One of the biggest examples of this is Hitmontop. They use to design him being on his top head and attacking with his feet. But ever since he went into 3D they had him standing up on his legs.
@waylander9265
@waylander9265 Жыл бұрын
The biggest issue I have with the move to 3D is the changes it made to colour palettes of Pokemon. The older games had much bolder colour palettes and this made them cooler and more eye catching. The desaturated look is fine for the cuter Pokémon, but for tougher, slick designs it makes them a lot more dull. Obviously, this problem has improved since gen 6, but I think it encouraged Nintendo to focus on cuter designs rather than a mixture of both
@kruxdewdrop1220
@kruxdewdrop1220 Жыл бұрын
I sometimes wonder if the desaturated color is by accident, and was just never corrected. I've done texturing for 3d models, and depending on the shader being used, the colors can end up looking washed out compared to the original texture.
@theapexsurvivor9538
@theapexsurvivor9538 Жыл бұрын
​@@kruxdewdrop1220yeah, they probably didn't bother testing lighting while modelling and texturing the Pokemon, so everything looked fine until it was implemented into the scenes. And when someone at Creatures/GF asked if they could delay the release a week to fix them, the executives at TPC probably just told them to F-off...
@Lazypackmule
@Lazypackmule Жыл бұрын
This is because colors needed to be blown the fuck out on the 3DS to work with the 3D gimmick, and they haven't really updated many of those assets since then
@muf1nl0rd
@muf1nl0rd Жыл бұрын
I think it’s because they color picked the colors on the official art onto the Pokémon’s 3D model textures, which is unfortunate since a lot of the older artwork - especially gen 3 - used very desaturated colors possibly to mimic a watercolor effect, even though the colors in the art didn’t match their colors in the game, leading to a bunch of Pokémon looking very very lifeless and dull. Thankfully later generations like gen 5 and beyond used much more vibrant colors in their official art, so if they colorpicked from there the 3D models’ colors would pop a lot more. Possibly why all the new pokemon in Kalos or Alola or whatever look way more colorful than a Milotic in the same game for some reason. I figured this color thing out by doing a little experiment of color picking original art and 3D models together, and I found the colors were near one-to-one matches. That’s definitely, possibly, the most likely reason why a lot of the Pokémon in these games have shit colors.
@IDKLOL-qj7sl
@IDKLOL-qj7sl 8 ай бұрын
my bigger problem with the 3D is what it limits and enables. first of all, in terms of pokemon designs, it feels like we get less texture on individual pokemon, based on what will or won't render easily in 3D. the 3D sprites can easily depict something that is smooth, or something that has a pattern mapped to that smooth object's surface... but if you want an animal to look fluffy, your options are to either round it out and imply softness with a marshmallowy silhouette, or model each individual hair tuft. in other words... you can tell that Arcanine, with all its spiky fur tufts, was designed for a game that didn't utilize 3D models. and now that the games do use 3D models, we're going to see an intentional shift away from designs with fluffy fur like Arcanine. they rendered Arcanine in 3D out of sheer obligation, but I bet it was a lot more work than rendering Yamper or Boltund. and even in cases where designs with fluffy or spiky fur are updated, like Hisuian Zoroark... the fur tends to look blobby, goopy, or rubbery... because that's the main texture that 3D models are best at conveying, for better or for worse. this is also why most bug pokemon look great in 3D... this method is great for rendering a smooth hard carapace. but where the uglyness comes into play, is with what the 3D enables. in these sprites, you now get pokemon with a lot of clutter in their designs... a lot of little floaty bits, or really weird surface-mapped patterns, or they look too goopy when the design probably shouldn't have looked that way. Galarian Weezing is a great example... I know all the stuff around it is supposed to be smog, or steam, or gas clouds, but it just looks like snot or ectoplasm to me. and then sometimes you get to certain designs, and it feels like the only reason it looks like this is because it'd be easy to rig. Maushold looks lazy to me for a lot of reasons, but this is one of them. Raticate is a pretty boring rat, but it at least has more personality than this knockoff sanrio mascot, minus the color. but then even when considering the environments in the 3D games, I think the flaw is a matter of scale. in a 3D environment, you start with a world that your character model can look out at, and see everything, as far as the eye can see, from their current position all the way to the horizon. that is a massive amount of space. in the older games, everything was top-down, so you could only see as far down the road as the edge of the screen. in terms of physical distance, you could only see a few feet ahead of yourself. and pixels are a pretty crowded visual style with which to try and depict everything. your lines are forced to be super chunky, so everything has to be stylized to look simple, and more representational. you can have more detailed portraits for, say, if you're battling a trainer, and need to see them as more detailed than their overworld sprite. but this representational aspect actually benefits the entire look of the game, but explicitly telling you that you should be assuming more detail into this world than what is literally on your screen. so basically, these mediums have inverse limitations. one gives the creator such a large blank canvas that they're struggling to figure out how to fill it all up. the other gives the creator such a small blank canvas that they're struggling to figure out how to cram everything in there. and this leaves the 3D environments feeling empty and plastic, while the 2D environments feel full to the point where they're bursting at the seams. 2D games will even resort to giving individual houses more interiority, just so they can fit more content into an area... the cave systems will be a maze that you could genuinely get lost in, or they'll have little features like the safari zone, or the trick house, or the slot machines in the gambling parlor, or pokemon contests. it's actually easier to run out of space for all your ideas. meanwhile, in the 3D era, you'll have whole cities full of facades that you can't even enter. it's just too much space to reasonably fill all the way up. so yeah... in my opinion, washed out color palette is just the cherry on top of a whole host of other issues that the move to 3D introduced to pokemon... a game that was formulated to specifically play to the strengths of a 2D medium.
@Bazzero
@Bazzero Жыл бұрын
Typhlosion is a good example of a 2d era mon that got shafted in the modern era. In the 2d era he was fierce and the flames emphasized that this pokemon went from a cute little critter to something you dont mess with. In the later era's he just stands there, a bigger mammal with nothing which is a huge deal because it's one of it's defining features.
@Supersonicspyro
@Supersonicspyro 11 ай бұрын
Thankfully in scarlet and violet his flames are out during all battles rather than just when he uses certain moves
@crisiskrow
@crisiskrow 11 ай бұрын
Pokémon can be very divisive and this is a great example. I tend to like my Pokémon to be closer to natural animals. Typhlosion is what a badger ? If you saw a badger without knowing about them you’d be like oh they’re kinda cute, non threatening but at a drop of a dime they’re vicious creatures. Same with typhlosion, he’s not on 24/7 but when he’s in battle he looks intimidating. Coming from gen 1 I was disappointed in the jump to 3d. Very conflicted.
@bigcooltony437
@bigcooltony437 11 ай бұрын
haxorus was done dirty too
@Gloomdrake
@Gloomdrake 11 ай бұрын
3D Typhlosion would work if it was quadrupedal
@Supersonicspyro
@Supersonicspyro 11 ай бұрын
@@Gloomdrake he's fixed in scarlet and violet
@concordiaharmony2302
@concordiaharmony2302 Жыл бұрын
I feel like something that should be pointed out is that while Ken Sugimori obviously had such a massive influence on the franchise design wise, Atsuko Nishida is responsible for the most popular ones. All three of the Gen 1 starters, Dratini, Dragonair, all of the Eeveelutions aside from Flareon and Jolteon, and the mascot of the franchise Pikachu and both Raichus were all her creations. I find in this discussion of graphical style it's important to remember that it wasn't all on Sugimori.
@silverspeak4813
@silverspeak4813 Жыл бұрын
thats true but sugamori still gave the Okay for all of the designs, they had to go ast him first. That being said you are right.
@deeeeesp.
@deeeeesp. Жыл бұрын
Your wrong, actually they did the art but the source martial and or original art witch is mostly unchanged was done by neither
@concordiaharmony2302
@concordiaharmony2302 Жыл бұрын
@@deeeeesp. the hell are you even saying?
@totallynotamimic3522
@totallynotamimic3522 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, if I remember correctly, she's also very shy and doesn't like being the focus of the conversation, which probably is what leads so many people to forget that she's had a major impact when designing some popular Pokémon
@pedromonteiro2248
@pedromonteiro2248 Жыл бұрын
She also created the best Mega Evolution design: Mega Charizard X!
@redwood34
@redwood34 Жыл бұрын
9:10 the perfect in between for me was B&W, they had the same sort of movements as the 3D games but because they were 2D they just looked more free, more mental imagery
@NexusKirin
@NexusKirin Жыл бұрын
Charming limited 3D graphics
@Tortferngatr
@Tortferngatr Жыл бұрын
Ferrothorn was probably my favorite example of that effect, even if the camera pan kind of killed the illusion sometimes. It's just...hanging from the top of the screen by its vines, looking like it gives absolutely zero fucks about whatever you're going to try hitting it with as it swings around. That doesn't work in 3D, but it was incredibly fun to see back then.
@Mirage475
@Mirage475 Жыл бұрын
It’s funny cause they have the tech now to do pseudo 2D with anime style shading of 3D models. Any Arc Systems game for example. Persona in a way too
@CatManOfTaste
@CatManOfTaste Жыл бұрын
@@Mirage475if you’ve played octopath traveler I think Pokémon would work perfectly in that style
@Synnabelle
@Synnabelle Жыл бұрын
The funny thing is, once you showed Drowsee's eyes at the beginning that was my first thought about changes on designs. How the eyes have changed throughout the framchises life.
@anonymousalligator7994
@anonymousalligator7994 Жыл бұрын
Something I don't see mentioned often, but one of the main reasons is that they rush to release the games is that they want to release the new anime episodes, trading cards and video game at around the same time to make a cohesive release, so if they want to delay the video game for example then they would have to delay everything else as well. Obviously they don't have to do it this way, but I'm sure they've crunched the numbers and realised they will make more money releasing a half baked game, so long as they can sell loads of new merch as well.
@popsickle_
@popsickle_ 6 ай бұрын
This is the first time I've heard of this, yeah it's a great reason, but I also definitely wouldnt mind if they delayed everything else to make their games better. That's an opinion based topic but personally for me I'd prefer them delaying it for the better
@austinmoe4865
@austinmoe4865 Жыл бұрын
So in summary, it's not the pokemon designs that are the problem. It's the stage they're being presented on. 10/10.
@sadistfurret4205
@sadistfurret4205 Жыл бұрын
Hell yes, all Pokemon are fantastic! (Except for terra, they could've done better there)
@lello2031
@lello2031 Жыл бұрын
People forget the "Monster" part of Pokemon, they aren't just colored animals. "Monster" can range from a yellow rat to an abomination.
@namantherockstar
@namantherockstar Жыл бұрын
Pokemon inspires me.. My parents said if i get 50K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally Begging...
@Introversion399
@Introversion399 Жыл бұрын
Your summary is incorrect because CircleToons didn't heart your comment.
@TheseUseless
@TheseUseless Жыл бұрын
@@sadistfurret4205most of them are shit and most of them have always been shit
@Highzen
@Highzen Жыл бұрын
Funny enough Pokemon like Goodra and Baxcalibur remind me a lot of the older generation of Pokemon.
@andrewpauly4783
@andrewpauly4783 Жыл бұрын
The funny enough you mentioned baxcalibur. Because I think his design looks absolutely horrendous in 3d. But would probably look fine and older Pokemon game. Though I think I'm nitpicking at his little hand claw things not being very intimidating looking and tacked on yo the design.
@Zoroark539
@Zoroark539 Жыл бұрын
maybe baxcalibur's face but the rest of his body is weird
@xord6286
@xord6286 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewpauly4783it's based off of a dinosaur that had things like those
@facelessnameless
@facelessnameless Жыл бұрын
Bax has the same body as Ttar
@elgobaldez3487
@elgobaldez3487 Жыл бұрын
Baxcalibur is by far the ugliest and laziest pseudo by a long shot
@K4RN4GE911
@K4RN4GE911 Жыл бұрын
"Why couldn't they have just let you be a big cat?!" I AGREE!!! I can name the starters that have the final evolution as a quadruped on TWO FREAKING *HANDS!!!*
@sspectre8217
@sspectre8217 Жыл бұрын
I was so sad to find out Sprigatito’s line would stand up but I do have to admit Meowscarada did grow on me a lot being the starter I chose
@dnidaz2553
@dnidaz2553 Жыл бұрын
Well why can't he be a furry? This criticism of antropomorphic designs always seems stupid to me, why is it a big deal in the first place? Because people are afraid to like an antropomorphic design?
@K4RN4GE911
@K4RN4GE911 Жыл бұрын
@dnidaz2553 Because it happens a lot. Like A LOT a lot. I've seen amazing fan designs of what Meowscarada would've looked like with the consistent quaduped likeness of Sprigatito. Instead, it's another anthro design that the starters seem to fall back on a lot. It still looks great, but final anthro evolutions are overdone.
@wilsonsanabia4259
@wilsonsanabia4259 Жыл бұрын
​@@K4RN4GE911I don't think they are overdone, there's plenty on both sides, the problem people seem to have is that is over represented on starters, which are the face of their games. Aside from some designs, I don't really mind how they look
@nightmareneo9363
@nightmareneo9363 Жыл бұрын
If you can count quadrapod evolution starters on 2 hands and then count with 7 hands with bipedal designs then that's not even
@tracymacaulay2422
@tracymacaulay2422 6 ай бұрын
I think a big reason as to why modern Pokémon designs are called ‘worse’ is that they just don’t look like something you would see in the wild anymore. Like, Bulbasaur is a four-legged plant frog. It’s cute, simple, and looks like it might even exist in the real world. Despite the obvious, I mean. Even Venusaur is just an adult Bulbasaur that has matured. Now we have an anthro rabbit soccer player. Something you see in the woods every day, ya know?
@doubleasworkshop1692
@doubleasworkshop1692 8 күн бұрын
Yes. Completely natural gen 1. A tortoise with canon on its shoulders
@lorenzobuero7115
@lorenzobuero7115 4 күн бұрын
​@@doubleasworkshop1692 i get that some are not just a wild-like creature but examples like warturtle are not that wrong, it is just a gigant turtle with two water cannons on its back, its personality and general design is still one of a wild creature (there are exceptions like hitmonchan, but this mostly follows this rules). But other designs just don't feel like something that would come from the wild or the shenanigans of that world, like a fire-fox wizard, a water sniper frog, (not very) grass owl archer, a fire footballing rabbit, lulbunny, liligant (even though i like liligant), etc
@Antigen__
@Antigen__ 2 күн бұрын
Ah, yes. A small boulder with two arms and a face, called Geodude. A guy with four arms. A magnet ball. An electric ball with a face. A purple balloon of toxic gas. Literal letters with eyes. Genwunners are something else.
@21eeveevulpix
@21eeveevulpix Жыл бұрын
Every Gens have their good designs, their bad designs, their 'what the fuck oh god kill it with fire designs' and their 'Eh I mean I guess it's alright' designs, you can't have every gen being nothing but good or bad.
@lello2031
@lello2031 Жыл бұрын
People forget the "Monster" part of Pokemon, they aren't just colored animals. "Monster" can range from a yellow rat to an abomination. The robot ones are the only ones that confuse me.
@SMCwasTaken
@SMCwasTaken Жыл бұрын
​@@lello2031the "monster" part is irrelevant
@namantherockstar
@namantherockstar Жыл бұрын
Pokemon inspires me.. My parents said if i get 50K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally Begging...
@Ralathar44
@Ralathar44 Жыл бұрын
That being said as someone who plays other Pokemon style games that are good like Cassette Beasts, Nexomon: Exctinction, or even TemTem its obvious that the development of Pokemon has gotten lazy and the Pokemon design is often alot less inspired or alot more overcomplicated. Cassette Beasts is a solild game with new twists and amazing music. Nexmon Exctinction is a solid game with new twists and an actually good story. TemTem is just straight up almost the same quality made by someone with a fraction of the money. And the upcoming Palworld game sticks to the simple design philosophy of older Pokemon so well that when people point out lookalikes the Palworld version is often much simpler and cleaner than the thing they are comparing it too.
@varg1231
@varg1231 Жыл бұрын
I first played Gen 1 so the original 151 are my favorite. I scoff at some of the newer designs (especially that fucking ice cream cone one), but I try to remember that we had ones like Jynx and Mr. Mime that were total out of left field ideas.
@patroka
@patroka Жыл бұрын
For the record, Vikavolt line is Charjabug being a battery, and Vikavolt being a railgun, actually. No vehicles at all ahaha
@DeathnoteBB
@DeathnoteBB Жыл бұрын
Charjabug is a bus and I love him >:(
@humorpalanta
@humorpalanta Жыл бұрын
Wait, is that actually real? I thought it was made up for the video XD Man, I stopped at Gen 3 XD
@gamehead1223
@gamehead1223 Жыл бұрын
bruh he has a sniper, you really want him to snap his fingers
@DeathnoteBB
@DeathnoteBB Жыл бұрын
@@humorpalantaSo far none of the Pokemon are madeup
@itsturniptime3699
@itsturniptime3699 Жыл бұрын
@@humorpalantaEvery Pokémon in this video, is real. Aside from the sponsored monsters from My Singing Monsters but that’s it, Vikavoot is real, Dragapult the stealth bomber ancient tetrapod ghost dragon aircraft that launches babies is real, Seel is real, Ultra Beasts are real, Pokémon is whacky as hell and I live for it With the exception of Sinksalor from Gen 17
@in-craig-ible6160
@in-craig-ible6160 Жыл бұрын
This was fascinating. Your art background really helped explain a lot in simple terms a non-artist (like myself) can understand.
@ish1057
@ish1057 10 ай бұрын
That bit with the trading cards exemplifies the stark contrast between what should be and what is. Rare to find a case that extreme but it's perfect, I want games to have that level of care baked into them and most people can't seem to see that till it's right in front of them. I mean christ they got the weird water noodle's environment to look so cool I want to see it in motion.
@limkailuen3022
@limkailuen3022 Жыл бұрын
This video came out one minute before truegreen7’s worst Pokémon design of each generation . Big concidence lol
@DenderFriend
@DenderFriend Жыл бұрын
I'm glad this video isn't purely hating and is actually balanced in its criticisms! I'm young enough that Black and White was the newest game to release by the time I was old enough to think about Pokémon and I do think there's more nuance to it than old being better, but the crunch time being pushed by Gamefreak is definitely hurting the franchise and it shows in some design choices being more gimmicky.
@Didagg
@Didagg Жыл бұрын
I din’t understand how pokemon being gimmicky is being lazy, in any case, it’s putting extra work on it
@Cigmacica
@Cigmacica Жыл бұрын
Recently even TPC has admited that maybe they should release new pokemon games every 2-3 years instead of everyyear, so there could be more hope. Personally pokemon scarlet and violet was probably the most fun i had in a while in a mainline game, but you can definitively feel the lack of time GF has to develop these games
@DenderFriend
@DenderFriend Жыл бұрын
@@Didagg I myself do enjoy a lot of the gimmicks they use for new Pokemon, I think it's more a point of how the design philosophy may have been influenced by the way the games are made.
@nathandam6415
@nathandam6415 Жыл бұрын
​​@Didagg Developing a game at this scale in under 15 months is extremely difficult. You'd have to put in overtime 24/7 to ship a game like this. 100+ new pokemon plus adding new moves would be a QA nightmare. On top of the CPU limitations of the switch. I don't envy the devs at game freak in the slightest. They literally cannot afford to add new mechanics, and that hurts the game in the long run.
@dolofonosesostrefis
@dolofonosesostrefis Жыл бұрын
@@Didagg Dudunsparce...
@SingTingz31
@SingTingz31 Жыл бұрын
I just discovered this channel. I love it! The pacing, and storytelling while being educational makes it so entertaining
@The_AuraMaster
@The_AuraMaster Жыл бұрын
I remember in Pokémon Platinum they added unique invirements for the Elite 4 rooms, then gen 5 gave more emphasis on the invirements, but now all the games on the switch its just an empty room with a Trainer.
@willkershisnik5893
@willkershisnik5893 Жыл бұрын
Yeah with hyper futuristic walls and floors. Too plain imo
@OgerponIsACutie
@OgerponIsACutie 11 ай бұрын
INVIREMENT?
@MsMoonDragoon
@MsMoonDragoon 11 ай бұрын
Sonic fan spotted. opinion discarded.
@Hypermastergaming
@Hypermastergaming 10 ай бұрын
@@MsMoonDragoon I can see omega saying that
@ZetroFox9274
@ZetroFox9274 12 күн бұрын
I'd say the only notable ones in Gen 9 were ionos and larrys. Ionos because it was a large stadium above a river in the middle of a town and Larry's because it was a battle arena that rose out of the ground in the middle of a bar.
@takarijbartleby
@takarijbartleby Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't mind a vid on Ultra Beats all on their own. I personally like how weird they are
@infiniteoctopaw
@infiniteoctopaw Жыл бұрын
Right? I love buzzwole, he’s just a goofy guy. Let him live his life.
@k.w.pillsbury4070
@k.w.pillsbury4070 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE how weird they are. SO FUN!
@wyvernplays1147
@wyvernplays1147 Жыл бұрын
I'm tried of "THEY DONT LOOK LIKE POKEMON >:[" like... That's the point?
@-et37-
@-et37- Жыл бұрын
Kartana is literally my favorite Pokémon I won’t tolerate UB slander.
@yeetuszilla1663
@yeetuszilla1663 Жыл бұрын
Best part about them? The community of ultra beast fans don't hate on each other's favorites. You can say you like stakataka because you think the name's funny, everyone is fine. You can say you don't like pheromosa because you don't like the spiky design, everyone is fine. Also, Xurkitree is cool
@Ninjorsta
@Ninjorsta Жыл бұрын
7:51 This is why the sniper lizard is important.
@wesnohathas1993
@wesnohathas1993 Жыл бұрын
Comparing modern Pokémon designs to a pretty decent burger in an actively burning restaurant seems like a very accurate assessment. The games have far worse issues to be concerned about.
@TaIathar
@TaIathar Жыл бұрын
Friendly reminder that Pokemon Stadium (and Stadium 2) existed before gen 3 was released, both of which were amazing 3D implementations (aside from some exceptions like Pidgeot using Mirror Move to copy Dig), but during the "2D era" as you call it.
@HirokiPlays
@HirokiPlays Жыл бұрын
Pokemon should try their hand at going back to 2D, at least for a quick spin off, just to gauge reception. I think B2W2 sprite art was top tier, and they should've expanded on it. I was on board with the switch to 3D of course, as it seemed like the natural step forward, but after getting mess after mess of games since, it makes me wonder if the quality would've been better had they stuck with a simpler yet more redefined style, even with the horrible time crunch, 2D games would've been vastly simpler to make.
@GhostEmblem
@GhostEmblem Жыл бұрын
If they could get the same quality in 3D but realse them half as often would you prefer 3d, 2d or have no preferance.
@HirokiPlays
@HirokiPlays Жыл бұрын
@@GhostEmblem I don't have a preference, but 3D doesn't really make Pokemon better, graphics were never the reason we played the games. So them putting so much effort into something that's not as important seems like an unnecessary spending of resources they already have so little time to manage. If they could slow down and actually polish their games, I think we'd all want that, but realistically, they're not gonna slow down. They're greedy corporate business first, and game developers second.
@kaka8635
@kaka8635 Жыл бұрын
No
@HDxBLAZE
@HDxBLAZE Жыл бұрын
True I liked b&w's 2.5D it looked great and kept the magic of the original while adding a more detail and pop to the environments
@zanpakutoman4225
@zanpakutoman4225 Жыл бұрын
I'm not the biggest Gen 5 fan, but Gamefreak really became kings of sprite art by the end of their sprite based games. Even by Gen 3 or 4 they were probably some of the innovative sprite based graphics on a handheld. When they moved to 3D they purposefully worked their asses off to make REALLY good models and people were willing to take the slight performance issues and stiff animations in Gen 6 with a grain of salt. But, that experience must have fried their brains or muscles cause it seems like they were just like "We're DONE! No more improving and polish is a luxury!"
@BladeBloodTear
@BladeBloodTear Жыл бұрын
I really never thought about the eye aspect and you are completely right. It's definitely the eyes that started that real change. I kind of wish we could see newer pokemon with more classical eyes to see if they fit better, but I guess that would go against their design philosophy now
@nate51691
@nate51691 Жыл бұрын
We DO still get the occasional ones that somewhat match the old eye styles (i.e. the Goomy and Sprigatito lines [very similar eye progression to Dratini and Bulbasaur, respectively], Cramorant [simple round eyes with black dot pupils], and arguably the Charcadet line [classic angular shape that gets more angular at evolution, but with the flame as an extra detail]), and admittedly, those tend to be some of my favorite ones in newer games, even if they get anthropomorphized more often these days. Personally, I feel like those four I mentioned could have been introduced in gen 3 or 4 and still matched the art style, more or less, so maybe that's the reason I like them lol
@JL-yw1cp
@JL-yw1cp Жыл бұрын
True
@justsomeone2303
@justsomeone2303 Жыл бұрын
I think posing has a lot to do with how people view the Pokémon too. It adds a lot to their personality. They really went all out with the poses for the Pokémon in the 2D games, whereas most of the ones in the 3D just... stand there. Idly. Speaking of idle animations, they help too. Nowadays most Pokémon don't even get idle animations in battle. In Gen 5 though, the Pokémon would occasionally do something to showcase their personality e.g. fire mons breathing out fire, ice mons letting out an occasional frosty breath, electric mons giving out a crackle of electricity, normal types waving around one part of their body, or Pikachu in particular twitching its ear cutely etc etc. They added a lot of charm to the Pokémon aside from the occasional blinking. But now? They just... stand around doing the exact same 2 second loop. TL;DR: IMO, part of the charm was showcasing the Pokémon's dexterity that GF put effort into in Gen 5, putting them in poses that *really* showcase how the Pokémon moves or is like standing still. Now they *barely* move and the charm is lost. Its not that it's 3D, its that their needs to be more simple, tiny animations that make the world more lively and give it a stronger personality.
@Mobius118
@Mobius118 11 ай бұрын
Underrated point
@Gloomdrake
@Gloomdrake 11 ай бұрын
A good example is Hitmontop. Like every other Pokémon, it’s on a two second loop, but that loop is so much more dynamic than the rest that you can’t help but like Hitmontop
@Emily12471
@Emily12471 11 ай бұрын
I do think, they've been getting better about that in the scarlet and violet games
@StinkySlinky1218
@StinkySlinky1218 Ай бұрын
The recent gen 6 leaks seem to show they *may* have wanted more dynamic poses. Pikachu actually had a great battle stance as an idle animation, and in the end he stands there like everything else.
@eyoshinthemaximum
@eyoshinthemaximum Ай бұрын
I think a modern Pokemon that shows how poses help make it memorable is Greninja. It’s battle pose is cool and ninja-like, but it’s normal walking and standing pose in Scarlet and Violet makes it look so goddamn goofy
@dimetrodon2250
@dimetrodon2250 Жыл бұрын
4:19 "Pokemon that go completely against cohesion" Shows Bellibolt, who is the same shape and shares the same shape as Chansey. They both even have head and stomach accessories in the same places.
@jacobellis2313
@jacobellis2313 4 ай бұрын
Wasnt he talking about the eyes at this moment?
@dimetrodon2250
@dimetrodon2250 4 ай бұрын
@@jacobellis2313 Their eyes are also the same shape, except Bellibolt's are yellow
@Blu-ps5rq
@Blu-ps5rq 4 ай бұрын
​@@dimetrodon2250 No? Chansey eyes is literally more of an I I while Bellibolt is more of a 0 0. Not only that, Chansey's eyes is also just all black while Bellibolt has irises and pupils. Its not even similar
@dimetrodon2250
@dimetrodon2250 4 ай бұрын
@@Blu-ps5rq The lumps on the sides of its head arent eyes
@dimetrodon2250
@dimetrodon2250 4 ай бұрын
@@Blu-ps5rq The lumps on the sides of its head arent eyes. The yellow dots are.
@stringram
@stringram Жыл бұрын
3:11 that arceus trollface killed me and the whole dragapult bit? Superb.
@heatherhallfo5179
@heatherhallfo5179 Жыл бұрын
Trollceus
@Just_a_commenter
@Just_a_commenter Жыл бұрын
Interesting! I always thought I saw something of a pattern with eye designs, but I never dug deeper... very neat. :D
@Awildgamer
@Awildgamer Жыл бұрын
Wait a second
@RealSkello
@RealSkello Жыл бұрын
Bro that pfp is wild
@zooning-6843
@zooning-6843 Жыл бұрын
It’s Japan. You could swear it’s there lack of eyes that lead them to over extenuate them anywhere they can. (Joking about the lack of eyes, but I only need to site anime for my second point)
@lol_una
@lol_una Жыл бұрын
​@@RealSkellohow have you never seen this person, i swear half of the videos i watch have a comment from them (Also, hi round latias)
@Garyse
@Garyse Жыл бұрын
Yo it's the pfp guy !
@SirPembertonS.Crevalius
@SirPembertonS.Crevalius Жыл бұрын
I'd be chill if the games had mechanical, story, or gameplay changes more so then a new generation of pokemon with each new installment. Maybe something like a game where we view the world of pokemon from team rocket's POV, almost like Half-Life's Opposing Force, something new and fun without the need for an entirely new generation of pokemon. I'd gladly take multiple games based on the same region if they all had a fun and unique twist on gameplay.
@tsu08761e
@tsu08761e Жыл бұрын
you dont even need new mechanics, imo the biggest issue is boring world design
@bluedog4248
@bluedog4248 Жыл бұрын
​@@tsu08761eI agree with this. The world is very broad and deep, but they haven't been doing much with it. Arceus was the first one to take a totally different vibe because of everything it did
@dolphinsniper
@dolphinsniper Жыл бұрын
I mean, Scarlet & Violet had 3 seperate stories you could handle as you want, and each story was pretty damn different, so you have your story changes right there.
@Felix.Fictus
@Felix.Fictus Жыл бұрын
... why?
@Ticazoid95
@Ticazoid95 Жыл бұрын
They're not going to stop making new pokemon because (New mon = new more unique merch)
@SmeargleStuff
@SmeargleStuff 8 ай бұрын
Funny thing is to me when Gen 7 released the designs felt like they had cohesion in how different they were this was until Gen 8 also had very different designs
@Haskellmd76
@Haskellmd76 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think a big problem is Pokémon’s scheduling nowadays. If it’s just take a one year break then take two years to make the next game that would be fine, but now they’re releasing tons of spin-offs and crap that are clogging up the quality of the games. So I think if we want to see a brighter future for Pokémon, expand their team, make a new schedule, and maybe start making Pokémon more similar to Gens 3-5
@lirsavvy
@lirsavvy Жыл бұрын
I like pokemon designs but not when one is a freaking tumbleweed
@robertbartley2409
@robertbartley2409 Жыл бұрын
@@lirsavvydo you prefer the pile Kum known as muk
@demonkingrouga
@demonkingrouga Жыл бұрын
@robertbartley2409 Muk gets way to much flak. Slimes have always been a mainstay in rpgs. The grimer line actually provided a new take compared to the cutesy dragon quest slimes and featureless blob slimes around that time period.
@loren5432
@loren5432 Жыл бұрын
Spin off Pokemon games? When? Mystery Dungeon gets like a new entry every 5 years or so, but besides from the strange case where it happens, there haven't been a lot of spin offs for the newer generations (DS generations come to mind since you had the Ranger series, Conquest, Rumble and etc), unless you count Arceus and Unite I guess.
@infiniteoctopaw
@infiniteoctopaw Жыл бұрын
​@@loren5432God, I wish we got more mystery dungeon games. I need more amo to use on the "pokemon has never been about storytelling" crowd.
@drood100
@drood100 Жыл бұрын
One thing i find interesting is with the rise of pokemon infinite fusion the 2d sprites are being custom made to show as much personality as possible and it's had me hooked for months now. The variety and expression i can have in a single game is riveting and holds my attention much more than any "gimmick"
@amykirschman3410
@amykirschman3410 Жыл бұрын
The fusions make for some of the wildest and diverse teams.
@5t0rm78
@5t0rm78 Жыл бұрын
and i BET gen 10 or 11 will have a shit fusion gimmick to capitalize on infinite fusion's success edit: i dont mean the fusion gimmick in infinite fusion is bad, what i am saying is that they are going to RUIN it tbf creating over a million custom models is... time consuming (unless they reduce the pokedex... AGAIN)... but still
@Vardanix2468
@Vardanix2468 Жыл бұрын
@@5t0rm78 its probably gonna be something like IF, but you only have the model of one of the pokemon....except for a few gimmick pokemon that have unique fusions....oh and they ll be completely busted and every single competitive team will use them
@iancastro1327
@iancastro1327 Жыл бұрын
​@@5t0rm78fusions are a thing in pokemon since gen5 idk what are you saying
@5t0rm78
@5t0rm78 Жыл бұрын
@@iancastro13279 pokemon can fuse. necrozma with solgaleo and lunala, kyurem with reshiram and zekrom, calyrex with spectrier and glastrier (but i dont count those because he just rides them). infinite fusion has HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of fusion combinations, while pokemon has SIX. what im trying to say is they're probably gonna try to add a fusion mechanic like infinite fusion's mechanic, and it's gonna suck.
@rwberger6
@rwberger6 Жыл бұрын
Gen III is when they started experimenting with more "weird" designs and seeing how humanoid they could get away with the designs outside of the fighting type. Gen IV they started making slightly more complex designs thanks to the jump to the DS, and Gen V was when they went sort of hog wild with the designs because they were going for a 100% new pokedex. From there the various gens have sort of shifted back and forth with how much they experiment with designs although Scarlet and Violet have sort of gone hog wild again like they did in Gen V.
@voc9ss
@voc9ss Жыл бұрын
I feel like that gen 3 part is correct, I didn't play gen 2 so immediately going from fire red and seeing Blaziken was super weird and it's my favorite pokemon
@rwberger6
@rwberger6 Жыл бұрын
@@voc9ss I base that part on an old interview I admit I can't find at the moment, where they admit Gardevoir and several other designs (Like Blaziken) in Gen III were experiments in how far they could push the humanoid look and have the fans accept it. Pokemon like Jynx, Hitmonchan, and Mr.Mime were kind of seen as oddballs even before that and raised the question of the whole clothes vs skinflaps debate about their designs. In Gen II they shied away from doing designs like that due to their reception but decided to do more in Gen III.
@halinaqi2194
@halinaqi2194 Жыл бұрын
Not my favourite direction they went in. Although Gen 3 is my favourite, I grew up with it after all, my favouriye pokemon were more on the animalistic or fantasy side. Such as the bagon line, trapinch line, poocheyena line, absol, skarmory, aggron, etc. I basically liked every design except for a small select amount, ex luvdisc was just lazy ngl.
@Kereea
@Kereea 5 ай бұрын
Overall I feel that the main issue is not "overall are they worse" so much as the high-low ratios of each gen's new mons. Personally I feel Gen 5 suffered the most here as they had to make a TON of common 'mons as analogues to older, more beloved common 'mons. Like, Gen 1 and 2 have some lows design wise (lookin' at you, Seel and Dewgong, and I say this as someone who LIKES those Pokemon) but generally they're close to the same tier and feel fairly cohesive. Gen 3 has a couple lows (Plusle+Minun, Whismer line, Chimecho) but also some great highs (the Weather Trio, Absol, the psuedo lines). Gen 4 was almost as good as 1-2 because a LOT of its mons connected to them or filled needed holes. Then we got to 5 where they needed a WHOLE DEX from scratch and we got a lot of weak entries. I think this was the low point. Gen 6, 7, 8, and 9 all are above it if looked at as a whole, tho they all have their own bad designs and amazing designs (ex: sure Gen 6 has Klefki, Aromatisse and Slurpuff, but is also has Goodra, Aegislash, Sylveon and Hawlucha, for example). Also there's the issue of New Weak Pokemon being judged more harshly than Old Weak Pokemon. If they don't have a beloved design, they get sunk HARD. I'm talking new Pikaclones that don't do anything unique, your early route bird and normal types, and so on.
@THATotherGUY415
@THATotherGUY415 Жыл бұрын
As someone who is old enough to be a Genwener (however it's spelled). Gen 1&2 design philosophy is pretty much some animal/creature with one fantastical feature. So that's why early Pokemon designs were so simple looking back then.
@archwing3441
@archwing3441 Жыл бұрын
I also grew up with gen 1 but it's not like all pokemon from gen 1 were animal/creature. We got weird object pokemon Grimer/Muk, Magnaton line, Geodude line, voltorb line, Arguably Weezing line (does cancer count as an object?). They also have there weird share of anthropomorphic pokemon, such as poliwrath (why did the tadpole turn grow fists?), hitmonlee/hitmonchan, jinx, mr. mime, electabuzz, magmar, and machamp line. Pokemon always had a thing with making objects and anthropomorphic pokemon instead of just simple animals or creatures. My favorite gen is gen 3 and while I love blazekin... that's just an anthropomorphic bird.
@DeathnoteBB
@DeathnoteBB Жыл бұрын
Well that, but also they were extremely limited in what they could do as designs. It was pixelated _and_ usually black-and-white. Starting Gen 3 they had more colors to work with, making the designs more detailed.
@norsebarbarian2843
@norsebarbarian2843 Жыл бұрын
@@archwing3441Weezing and Muk line are meant to represent the physical embodiment of air and water pollution respectively. Land pollution didn’t come until gen five with Garbodor. All designs I love by the way, but I’m a Poison type fanboy.
@hindelsoft4650
@hindelsoft4650 Жыл бұрын
​@@archwing3441It's not about whether it's animals or objects. It's about how most gen 1 is "simple" designs which are basically "it's just the real animal" or "it's X but with Y". There are some variations like Mew and Mewtwo being Giygas inspirations or Exeggutor and the nidos being uniquely weird. but most of gen 1 fit the "simple" description. Gen 2 is where they started getting creative but a lot of pokemon are still simple or very barely different from the real animal like Stantler having unique horns.
@weridplusho
@weridplusho Жыл бұрын
Considering the lore in Gen 1, that actually is in-line with they were attempting to recreate: the real world where animals suddenly mutated into pokemon. By Gen 3, it was no longer about that as they shifted over to: AU of real world where pokémon have always existed. Most of them being super cute was just a bonus, I guess.
@Alice_was-here_1999
@Alice_was-here_1999 Жыл бұрын
I love the variety in designs but variety means there’s going to be more bad designs with the good ones
@octoslut
@octoslut Жыл бұрын
gen 9 is literally the worst one... so many bad designs and i thought gen 5 was bad.
@bugonboris6681
@bugonboris6681 Жыл бұрын
@@octoslut I thought gen 8 was worse, at least with the starter and legendary Pokémon designs... And the quality for most of that game...
@Alex_Munoz5
@Alex_Munoz5 Жыл бұрын
​@@bugonboris6681gen 8 is definitely the generation with worse designs. Heck, its the generation that popularized boxing the starter... but gen 9 is probably the second worst, which is sad because it has very good ones, but they are a small number. I Will never forgive how they disrespected fans making gholdengo the Pokémon numer 1000
@Robinson513
@Robinson513 Жыл бұрын
What the fuck is pokemon
@Alex_Munoz5
@Alex_Munoz5 Жыл бұрын
@@Robinson513 idk some weeb bs
@Kortezxero
@Kortezxero Жыл бұрын
"How I see my pokemon battles now." That whole part had me laughing so hard I was crying. I completely agree with this.
@unnsavorysalmon7720
@unnsavorysalmon7720 2 ай бұрын
I feel like during Gen 1-4 (particularly with the spin off games Stadium 1&2, Colosseum,XD and Battle Revolution) did so much to give the Pokemon of those generations so much identity, a good example would actually be a Pokemon most people forget; Unown, they could’ve just done what they do now have them float in place, but each of the 26 forms have unique animations (my personal favourite being Unown X being just a little dude). But at the same time I recognize that those games didn’t have as much content as mainline games did, and weren’t made with gamefreak directly, because back then 3D wasn’t the standard it allowed Genius Senority to really focus in on the designs and aspects of the Pokemon themselves. Nowadays you have these cool designs but not much personality behind them which sucks because I hard vibe with a lot of the designs in later generations. Ultimately I cannot help but fully agree with the takeaway that if we want Pokemon to have more personality in their designs then the ratio at which games come out needs to be heavily slowed down.
@supergeno128ds
@supergeno128ds Жыл бұрын
This is a great video that really feels like it explains a lot of the problems recent games (and their designs) have. I do like a lot of the more recent designs but like CircleToons said- its hard to enjoy your burger when the restaurant is on fire lol Raichu has been and will forever be my favorite. Least favorite? Probably Aromatisse. There really aren't a lot of designs I absolutely hate.
@Hypnos45
@Hypnos45 Жыл бұрын
I agree, I never had a real problem with mon designs even when they went anthro, some do work like Mr Mime, my main issue is that they always present newer mons in lower quality and boring plain environments
@DeadlockDrago
@DeadlockDrago Жыл бұрын
Aromatisse is such wasted potential.
@supergeno128ds
@supergeno128ds Жыл бұрын
@@DeadlockDrago it mostly just creeps me out by looking extremely flirtatious but at the same time completely repulsive. I know there are other pokemon like that but Aromatisse creeps me out the most.
@raphaelkgh218
@raphaelkgh218 Жыл бұрын
​@@supergeno128ds Personally, i like Aromatisse's colors, and i think it can get a pass because it's partially based on french cancan danses i think... But still, the more i tthink about it, the more i see it's wrongs... I mean, makimg a pokemon partially based on french cancan was already risky and kind of bad, but like seriously, they could have just made her based on perfumes, without her legs showing, or something like that... We didn't need a pokemon with a bottom-half design based on french cancan... Man, i kind of really think it's kinda bad now, like Jesus-Christ!
@OriginalGameteer
@OriginalGameteer Жыл бұрын
Honestly can't say the burger analogy applies to me SV was singlehandedly my least favorite game in the series, yet the state of it and the franchise have absolutely zero effect on how I feel on the designs. There's alot of gen 9 mons I love and that's that.
@1upmash
@1upmash Жыл бұрын
10:33 I swear, when gen 17 is next in line, we all gonna convince Pokemon to create a "sink" Pokémon
@imperfectimp
@imperfectimp 10 ай бұрын
You could say Pokémon designs have really gone down the drain, eh?
@Smood0310
@Smood0310 8 ай бұрын
​@@imperfectimpgotta let that joke sink in
@Watch-0w1
@Watch-0w1 8 ай бұрын
Then it evolve into a toilet
@lucasmatthiessen1570
@lucasmatthiessen1570 7 ай бұрын
Sinkio, I choose you!
@SteadyFreak
@SteadyFreak 6 ай бұрын
@@Smood0310I am really letting that one get drained in my brain
@ronald1416
@ronald1416 Жыл бұрын
The best approach for me was what they did in Unova; 2d sprites with just enough moving parts to make them real alive. Not to mention the way the sprites would shake or stretch, leaving it to you’re imagination as to how they where actually moving during a fight.
@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas
@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Generation 5’s animated sprites are exactly what I love sprites in Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey, IV, and Devil Survivor for. They're awesome!
@unkarsthug4429
@unkarsthug4429 Жыл бұрын
Ironically, I think Gen 5's graphics are my least favorite. I prefer images to either remain still, or move smoothly, and Gen 5 just looks so unbearably jerky. I'd say pixel art Pokemon peaked in Gen 4, if I were to say my preferred art style.
@piranhalettuce
@piranhalettuce Жыл бұрын
Yeah I also preferred the animated sprites over the static png's from Gen 1 to 4 or 3D models from Gen 6 to Now, I never liked how pokemon stopped moving after doing their entrance animation in Gen 2, 3, and 4. Either have them always moving or don't have them move at all.
@the-sillycate
@the-sillycate Жыл бұрын
Nah. My hate for tweening animation is bigger than my love for gen 5 (and I really love gen 5)
@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas
@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas Жыл бұрын
@@the-sillycate Don’t let negativity overwhelm you, like the game for what you like Surely it can't be that bad, right?
@KraylebStudios
@KraylebStudios Жыл бұрын
I think Pokemon designs later on down the line became a lot more creative and the designers wanted them to have more life and personality... The biggest problem with this is that they make some Pokemon more like characters than actual animals which ruins it for a lot of people And also inanimate Pokemon are a lot of the time inspired by Yokai so I really like how many we have
@nicholaspetri2475
@nicholaspetri2475 Жыл бұрын
I found it so weird that for gen 9 they decided to use realist details on the 3d models like showing off scales and fur textures in a gen were most of the pokemon have (at least to me) the most toony looking designs and they just don't do the designs for either the pokemon or the human characters in those games any justice.
@DeathnoteBB
@DeathnoteBB Жыл бұрын
Honestly I prefer the better textures. I mean realistically, the Pokemon _have_ fur and scales.
@nicholaspetri2475
@nicholaspetri2475 Жыл бұрын
@@DeathnoteBB I think it's cool that we get to see those details and admittedly I do think the metal textures on the steel type pokemon look cool but it also looks a bit too uncanny valley to me and I just personally would prefer a more stylized art style since the issue when games go for more realism the look risk's being outdated at some point in the future.
@corenlavolpe6143
@corenlavolpe6143 Жыл бұрын
It's like whiplash to have highly detailed textures on very simple designs, I really don't like it.
@Zevox144
@Zevox144 Жыл бұрын
@@corenlavolpe6143it's like throwing an HD texture pack on minecraft.
@MrMoom08
@MrMoom08 Жыл бұрын
5:45 As an Ultra Beast enjoyer I have to humbly disagree with your opinion. However, as a civil human being with manners I have decided to respect your opinion despite of our disagreements. I for one, am very fond of those disturbing hellspawn, especially Xurkitree, as it is my favorite of the current 1015 “pocket monsters” *sips tea condescendingly*. Regardless, I hope you have a wonderful day in spite of the Guzzlord I have sent to consume your place of residence.
@robijakus6860
@robijakus6860 Жыл бұрын
4:37 OHH COME ON CHARJABUG IS CLEARLY A NINE VOLT BATTERY
@jeffgoode9865
@jeffgoode9865 Жыл бұрын
When you got to "eyes", I literally pointed at my screen and said, out loud, 'yes'. I've always noticed it.
@ohmaplaymaker
@ohmaplaymaker Жыл бұрын
12:10 That's a pretty good metaphor xD
@BonnyJohn
@BonnyJohn Жыл бұрын
Love the art, animation, and your sense of humour all the while still being coherent and entertaining! Love the lengths you went to prove your points and definitely gonna check out the rest of your stuff! Great job!!!
@Dragodilian
@Dragodilian Жыл бұрын
Theres definitely different design styles between generations, but i dont think any of the generation designs are worse or better than the other. Theres pokemon and gimicks i like and dont in each gen. I do agree that the shift to the 3D models took a lot of personality and character (and color) out of the pokemon. I do think the models look a lot better in Scarlett and Violet, despite how many issues those games had, i do think they improved the models somewhat. Being able to see different fur and scale patterns and the metallic look to metallic pokemon were things i liked. 😊
@Happyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
@Happyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Жыл бұрын
6:14 dude gave him the Seel of approval
@fabiofanf3e813
@fabiofanf3e813 11 ай бұрын
They shoudlve made it a steel type
@leonbrown7705
@leonbrown7705 Жыл бұрын
10:59 caught me of guard and laughed my butt off
@Bob-Probably
@Bob-Probably Жыл бұрын
Incredible video, easy to tell all the hard work you put in
@MrSkittles_The3rd
@MrSkittles_The3rd 4 ай бұрын
Love how mimikyu just shows that one child it’s true form and literally just.. fricking killed that child (Reference to mimikyu’s dex entry)
@darkdestiny9106
@darkdestiny9106 Жыл бұрын
I think you effectively summed up why I've been enjoying Pokemon Infinite Fusion so much. It's a nostalgia trip back to the 2D era of Pokemon games and we're still "creating" new Pokemon via the fusion mechanic and I like seeing the new gen Pokemon in 2D.
@BrandonWhatTheF
@BrandonWhatTheF Жыл бұрын
Damn, Circletoons video essay? Sign me up! Can't wait for a 5 hour video on why Pikmin 3 is a subversive masterpiece!
@dragonarcher89
@dragonarcher89 Жыл бұрын
pokemon designs have changed in terms of inspiration. like circle brought up dragapault but there are a lot of modern pokemon that have lots of thought that get put in the designs. its not just one aspect but multiple things get put into them. take feucocos line for example. crocalor may have a weird hat thing but it represents a sombrero and a nest at the same time. hence the flame bird flying around skeledirge. the bird is significant becuz there are some crocs/alligators (i dont remember which skeledirge is) that rely on birds to clean their teeth. dirges meaning is "lament for the dead, especially for funeral reasons". the day of the dead is significant for mexicans. to go further the facepaint for skeledirge could be representing both a thermometer and day of the dead paint at the same time. of course that parts speculation on my part but to me it makes way too much sense. like i said, theres other modern pokemon that have aspects coming into the design. gens 1-3 are simple becuz there wasnt AS much thought. heck, the starter trio theme was first "introduced" with the sinnoh starters and ever since, all three starters have a coherent theme each generation. with all that said, for me personally, i dont care if a pokemon is quad or walks on two feet (blanking on name) as long as the design has elements into it that make sense for the pokemon and is executed well. i dont care how simple or how complicated the design is, as long as the design is executed well. after watching subjectivelys vid on this, i know why i dont care for incinaroar and inteleons design compared to meowscarada and greninjas designs. the first two is just a human wearing a suit. the other two are animals first then human. greninjas main pose is on three of his legs and has a lot of frog elements. sure he can walk on two but thats not the main focus. the main focus is the frog. meowscarada looks way more cat like than incinaroar ever did. i dont like incins arms and legs. i dont like incins large hands and feets. i dont like how human he looks. the design is executed poorly. i get it, hes a wrestler. but u can still make it cat like while looking somewat like a wrestler. inteleon is the same way unfortunately. the only thing preventing me from disliking it the same as incin is the fact that i used a modest inteleon in my first playthrough. got lucky on the nature lol tldr: modern pokemon have typically have more thought put into there designs than the older pokemon. as long as the idea of a pokemon is executed well, then i dont care if its supposed to be quad or walking on two. if its animal like, then make look more animal like. dont need it to act like one 100 %. but it needs to be enough to make sure ppl arent just rolling their eyes the moment they see a "opposite of a quadruped"
@rustymidlander05
@rustymidlander05 Жыл бұрын
A fellow Lockstin & Gnoggin aficionado I see
@OnlyRoke
@OnlyRoke Жыл бұрын
I like how the Gen 8 starters all start like they're an archetype of a child (loud creative kid, sporty kid, shy emotional kid) and they all evolve into something a kid would dream of as a profession (a cool rockstar, a soccer player and a secret agent).
@mouthwaterin
@mouthwaterin 11 ай бұрын
I like how scorbunny even goes thru an edgy phase (raboot)
@sortacoolmaybe
@sortacoolmaybe 11 ай бұрын
Cool but they’re not kids they’re Pokémon
@ChronoCartographer
@ChronoCartographer 7 ай бұрын
@@sortacoolmaybe things can represent other things, you learn this in 2nd grade
@PyraXadon
@PyraXadon Жыл бұрын
I was always partial to M-Lopunny actually. It’s one of those megas that re-invent the pokemon rather than just doing a “More of the pokemon”. It also made lopunny a competitively viable threat, elevating it from an unusable sex symbol in a kid’s game, to basically a girlboss that kicks ass.
@JoeyTee420
@JoeyTee420 Жыл бұрын
G-Max Intelleon, we found another 🎯🔫
@Xtreme-qk5qg
@Xtreme-qk5qg Жыл бұрын
6:35 dragapult is honestly one of my favorites. Not to mention the fact it yeets its children at you is fucking hilarious 😂
@ohmaplaymaker
@ohmaplaymaker Жыл бұрын
the children canonically love to be yeeted! xD
@stevejohn7459
@stevejohn7459 Жыл бұрын
4:08 Eats a Pokémon and acts like it’s nothing.
@Tsupek
@Tsupek 9 ай бұрын
*me glaces over the Krabby sandwhich/food from modern pokemon
@kevindolan9
@kevindolan9 25 күн бұрын
Little late to the party here but either way, Here’s my take on this. In terms of creating badass and intimidating looking Pokémon that make you feel like a Boss for having them on your party, the designs have gotten worse as there’s only a handful of Pokémon in the recent gens that fit that role (in my opinion). In terms of Pokémon that are supposed to be cute, Charming and give you that feeling of “AWWW this would make the best Pet ever! I wish I had this lil guy Irl..!” The designs have gotten better. Cause every recent Gen has much more Pokémon’s that would make great pets and would be super fun to have around due to their Cute designs and Fun Quirks especially in Scarlet and violet where they introduced some of my favs in recent years due to how fun they are in design and concept, Fidough/dachsbun, Clodsire, Fuecoco, Tinkaton, Chein-pao And Maushold are all very simple Pokémon with Lots of personality.
@actingapple3607
@actingapple3607 Жыл бұрын
I favourite Pokémon gen was gen 5 because that’s when I really started getting into Pokémon. The first Pokémon game I had played was Soul Silver, but Pokémon Black was after that one and for some reason I just loved it more. I have favourite Pokémon in so many different generations, I have Spheal from gen 3, Clauncher and Clawitzer from gen 5, Araquanid from gen 7, and Honedge from gen 6 just to name a few
@OlleLindestad
@OlleLindestad Жыл бұрын
Clauncher and Clawitzer were introduced in gen 6!
@actingapple3607
@actingapple3607 Жыл бұрын
@@OlleLindestad huh, so they did
@Blacardevoir
@Blacardevoir Жыл бұрын
I am so happy that someone else other than me finally pointed out the “eyes” when it came to the change in pokemon designs. The best way that I described it is that they lost how “anime” they look and a good portion of modern pokemon now have a more Americanized “cartoony” look with their eye choice which I personally don’t like
@crocoboi7936
@crocoboi7936 Жыл бұрын
The old Pokémon eyes look like dragon ball z eyes. Have you noticed that?
@leezard7696
@leezard7696 Жыл бұрын
I noticed it too. It's kind of one of several reasons Pokemon doesn't feel like Pokemon anymore. It doesn't FEEL like it's from Japan anymore, which isn't just me being a weeb, it's me saying that it doesn't feel personal. That little spark of magic that was Ken Sugimori's original expression of his childhood catching bugs is just GONE now and it makes me sad. The design of the pokemon themselves being one piece of that since he and a lot of the original artists aren't working on the games anymore. Also the more anime-like eyes just gave everything a more unified look and I think it was better than the complete and utter lack of coherence between modern pokemon. For example, Alcremie and Cinderace don't look like they belong in the same generation, much less the same franchise.
@tpfoxCastro
@tpfoxCastro Жыл бұрын
Duraludon, Drednaw, Iron thorns, Baxcalobur, the Charcoal line and every other new pokemon with sharp eyes left the chat
@ilikestuff9250
@ilikestuff9250 Жыл бұрын
​@@leezard7696 1. Sugimori was not the one who caught bugs as a kid. That'd be the CEO of Gamefreak, Satoshi Tajiri. 2. Sugimori is still designing Pokémon in Gen 9 and a basic checkup on Bulbapedia will reveal the series has used multiple artists from Gen 1 itself.
@griefingg0lem685
@griefingg0lem685 Жыл бұрын
This felt like a very fair look at this whole situation. You give points as an artist as to how each of the generations do their art styles and how things have evolved and changed, but also pointing out where failings of the development and a swapping to 3D leave to needing new situations. I do agree, and it isn't like this isn't doable. I know Persona and SMT don't have as big of a roster of Shadows/Demons, but those characters have dynamic posing when in 3D and you can understand a lot of their personality from other aspects of their attacks and lore. I do think Pokemon should slow down for better quality games, because as you said "This burger might be good, but it doesn't matter if the restaurant is on fire."
@roelsalinas3536
@roelsalinas3536 13 күн бұрын
I just don’t want Pokémon that straight up look like people in suits.
@silentkill450
@silentkill450 Жыл бұрын
I guess it really does depend on what visually resonates with you in the long run. As someone who grew up with the games with gen 1, I tend to lean on some of the newer ones as my personal favorites (Galvantula and Chandalure being my personal all time faves). I definitely agree with the idea that the issue with newer Pokémon isnt so much the designs themselves, but how they’re plainly presented in the 3D games. Inteleon looked so dull in sword and shield, but the official illustrations and fan sprites made it my 3rd favorite water starter.
@Strato_Casterrr9898
@Strato_Casterrr9898 Жыл бұрын
I used to hate Incineroar until I saw its front and back sprite in inclement emerald and realize how amazing the design is. My legit fave fire starter next to typhlosion infernape and charizard.
@CaptainEffort
@CaptainEffort Жыл бұрын
@@Strato_Casterrr9898Fr the fan made sprites in rom hacks make me actually appreciate the newer Pokémon designs
@hlavco
@hlavco Жыл бұрын
The art style has certainly changed over time. Problem is, the original art is what I fell in love with, and the games are drifting farther from that in each generation. I remember opening an issue of Nintendo Power in 1998, seeing the Sugimori watercolor artwork of the first three starter pokemon, and my little kid brain immediately thinking "I want that".
@ilikestuff9250
@ilikestuff9250 Жыл бұрын
You want Dragon Quest than. Sugimori didn't have an artstyle. He has admitted to cribbing from Akira Toriyama for the earlier gens. If you want that 90's charm, DQ did a much better job of representing it.
@hlavco
@hlavco Жыл бұрын
I'll have to take a look then, thanks.@@ilikestuff9250
@RedVelvetUnderground333
@RedVelvetUnderground333 Жыл бұрын
@@ilikestuff9250that explains the eyes
@megasparklegoomba6807
@megasparklegoomba6807 Жыл бұрын
Personally, I LOVE the UB's, and no one can take that from me. Besides, they're SUPPOSED to look alien(because they are). Stakataka and Blacephalon are easily the best looking ones, with Xurkitree and Nihilego coming in behind them. My least favorite is probably Naganadel, with Buzzwole being close.
@cottoncandysans
@cottoncandysans Жыл бұрын
you're supposed to see them differently than normal pokemon and they nailed that part
@jacksmileyco
@jacksmileyco Жыл бұрын
I came to see if anyone mentioned this cuz I was genuinely shocked because I thought most people loved UB’s they’re my personal favorite modern Pokémon idea
@ediakin4993
@ediakin4993 Жыл бұрын
they made them "strange" even among "strange creatures" ultra beasts are excellent, the fans are insolent as always
@pokeoh1831
@pokeoh1831 Жыл бұрын
Came here for this was ready to throw death threats for my boy buzzwole
@ttmfndng201
@ttmfndng201 Жыл бұрын
I love kartana
@arthurroth3147
@arthurroth3147 Жыл бұрын
You talked about the transition to 3D in regards to the later gens, but stuff like Pokémon battle revolution had 3D models, and I thought most people quite liked those. I was wondering how you felt about that
@corbinmoore96
@corbinmoore96 Жыл бұрын
This is your best video to date. It's especially hard to define whether one model is better than 1 sprite. As someone who hunts for shinies, this question comes into play a lot more often than not. I think whats great about the series being one of the largest and most successful corporations to date is that we've had so many wonderful games put out over the years. I like diving into my collection of older games and deciding which sprite looks the most rewarding to hunt for c: I only wish older titles were more available for cheap, or at least digitally.
@MiguelHernandez-lo5lg
@MiguelHernandez-lo5lg Жыл бұрын
My only issue is that they are making the pokemon too breedable.
@billybob1831
@billybob1831 Жыл бұрын
Ayo?
@pixidraw5411
@pixidraw5411 Жыл бұрын
Where is that an issue?
@catoblepas8697
@catoblepas8697 Жыл бұрын
sus
@wu--
@wu-- Жыл бұрын
False. Ditto has been THE MOST breedable pokemon since the very beginning. There is simply no going up when you start at the peak
@flak_d0
@flak_d0 Жыл бұрын
Vaporeon is from gen 1
@kingleonidas2182
@kingleonidas2182 Жыл бұрын
This is such a good video lol. I should’ve known once it was more than a minute long. Also it helped me realize that Pokémon design should be grouped up via the game they came out on.
@bigchungus6853
@bigchungus6853 5 ай бұрын
funny bits 0:13 1:51 4:04 4:32 4:46 5:51 6:22 - 6:32 7:02 7:07 7:18 8:00 8:06 8:31 10:20 10:43 10:52 11:00 11:09 12:10
@JacobPDeIiNoNi
@JacobPDeIiNoNi Жыл бұрын
FINALLY SOMEBODY BRINGS UP THE CARD ART it’s always so good and sometimes I just go on the tcg card database to look at all the art for various Pokémon even though I haven’t done anything with the physical cards for years. It has single-handedly made me like many designs I didn’t at first like Kommo-o (seriously look at kommo-o’s card arts they’re great)
@feickpehbehehy
@feickpehbehehy 11 ай бұрын
yeah i started to like Urshifu way more after I see their TCG (and anime) artworks
@MoonMoon-cl4co
@MoonMoon-cl4co Жыл бұрын
This might be unpopular opinion but I really like how different and abstract some of the Pokémon designs have gotten! Like for example Eternatus! I love it’s design it feels so different and unique and I love that!
@supersaiyankirby
@supersaiyankirby Жыл бұрын
I actually really like the Ultra Beasts for that too. Like they're absolutely ugly but they're Pokémon from a other dimension it's cool that they look super weird as a result
@joshcoy6748
@joshcoy6748 Жыл бұрын
Personally, I'm not actually fond of eternatus, I actually precieved it as a garish knock off of ultra necrozma, not to mention that I greatly disliked the dynamax gimmick, sorry I'm not trying to be offensive, I'm just stating my personal opinion.
@trustindean5164
@trustindean5164 Жыл бұрын
@@supersaiyankirby agreed, I actually adore the Ultra Beasts precisely because they have such distinctive designs that feel like something from another world. Not to mention their story role as essentially some of the only actually villainous pokemon that aren't that due to the human villains machinations. I feel like to say pokemon designs have gotten worse over time is just fully wrong, its simply that they got more complicated over time. Some folk prefer the original ideas since they're simpler but personally I love the more complicated themed ideas, it makes them feel more like something beyond just animals (and probably helped alleviate the "forcing animals to fight" idea)
@BladeSerph
@BladeSerph Жыл бұрын
When they stand out an actually feel like they should be in a entirely different generation without some lousy design whether on `terrible` pokemon designs, bad gameplay design or just a incohesive story design. Yes they can be amazing. Since they decided to do with a less then yearly design to pump out a new pokemon game, put no effort on innovating & enhancing from the previous generation and instead chase a lazy `reuse` level of trend that might as well of started when they first started using 3D models, but its sword & shield when it hit much harder with how things like a `open generic map` with randomly popping in mons that have a lousy draw distance and effectively axed HM moves and put the functions in tedious means of acquire (Screw how Scarlet/Violet handled it and made the signature legendary feel less, `legendary`). What they really should do is go with lower budget games and use that as an excuse for the yearly~less-then-yearly release to UPDATE models to give more dynamic poses. This way they don`t need to keep making new mons each year, improve existing ones and then reuse those models in an actual mainline title they could release once every 2-3 years instead, maybe even use other assets from the smaller titles to make a super amazing polished one later. LIKE GIVE US A POKEMON TITLE SIMILAR TO GOLD/SILVER THAT ACTUALLY GOES THRU MULTIPLE REGIONS SINCE IT WOULD BE AMAZING TO HAVE A REMAKE THAT HAS YOU GO THRU THE FIRST THREE OR FOUR TITLES AS A SORT OF SUPER ADVENTURE WITH ALOT MORE UNIQUE CONTENT ON TOP OF THAT. Games these days are already abusing the fk outta things like Rogue-likes, Card-based, Procedural generation and so on and Pokemon already did some of those especially with things like Mystery dungeon to an extent, if the games are gonna get eaten up so easily on its IP, they might as well focus on refreshing the brand so it can last much longer. Dex-it likely ruined the game`s credibility and eventually alot more people are gonna jump ship from being dedicated fans when they are simply being forced to pay for DLC that mostly consists of thar mons able to come back to the game, NOT the ones from previous generations, which ruins the GENERATION carry-over design and if its not rather obvious for scarlet/violet, just being full of more MOBA/Gacha-like power creep design of new mons with even more broken abilities to saturate the competitive level play, make even more mons get auto banned from a `balanced` game, then GAmefreak breaks it by changing stats/moves of existing mons resulting in more generation specific divides and then people just complain over half the mons in the game are banned because they have one broken ability that some can just straight up sweep half or more of a team, REGARDLESS of types/abilities/stats. Also for Eternatus, they really did that interesting design a dirty and doing what i like to call the `shove in big baddie` filler bit. Its one thing if its say a, Lugia that was corrupted into a darker ver like Pokemon Colosseeum 2 did, but just having a legendary that simply appears, hyped up to be some disaster level mon then basically forgotten next generation, usually because its main gimmick is forever lost to later games...yeah its no wonder its annoying when you get loads of these and they get under utilized, never get utilized or become the equilvency of some MOBA game with too many champions that if someone were to bring them out, they can`t even remember who that mon is, even when it literally was from a previous generation and served as a final boss.
@lmao2302
@lmao2302 Жыл бұрын
I think every gen has a design that was intentionally made to look awful or goofy but I feel like gen 8 and 9 had a couple that were meant to be good but were just ass cause of the new more noticeable direction.
@corxeth1177
@corxeth1177 Жыл бұрын
As someone who refuses to pay $60+ for any of the current gen stuff…. But is actively seeking and paying several hundreds of dollars for older experiences…. May i…. Receive one uh dem gold stars you gave to blue shirt? 😭 at 11:10 as well?
@corvidcosmo
@corvidcosmo 8 ай бұрын
I just do this fun thing called *HOMEBREWING* on my 3ds so I don’t have to sell an arm and a leg.
@oswald5086
@oswald5086 Жыл бұрын
I always did get a nostalgic, unified vibe when looking at each gen 1 pokémon, but that could just be because of how well known they are. Amazing video too, man, I'm really impressed with both your analysis, animation, and humor!!
@trashdood7773
@trashdood7773 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! I always knew you were a great animator, but your ability to voice over is great as well. I'm especially impressed how you can start a sentence normally and then go into gremlin mode at the end in a perfectly natural way LOL. Also, the line delivery on the Lopunny bit genuinely made me laugh for a solid few minutes, amazing job.
@Scatterbrained_and_Lost
@Scatterbrained_and_Lost Жыл бұрын
Idk why, but the "my knees hurt" line kept making me lose it.
@Twick64
@Twick64 Жыл бұрын
I am all in for more of these animated video essays from CircleToons just to see more confused children perish from bad takes
@theketchupboii
@theketchupboii 11 ай бұрын
Imagine how well the Pokémon Generation 10 games would sell if they fixed all this. New powerful home console, dynamic and good-looking animations, and AAA-tier graphics. A whole new start to commemorate the milestone that is generation 10. We can only dream.
@dany_fg
@dany_fg Жыл бұрын
12:27 this is why I liked Koraidon idle battle animation, they made is a cool pose that make it feel alive.
@AntAuntGaming
@AntAuntGaming Жыл бұрын
I love the changing artstyles, especially with older pokémon staying the same, seeing them side by side feels kinda awesome. Shows how long the series have been going on, and it's also really cool seeing old pokémon in new games, it's comforting to know that even in a brand new world, surrounded by brand new creatures, some things still stay the same. Now if only the games were good.
@thebugbehindthesnax
@thebugbehindthesnax Жыл бұрын
I definitely think they’ve changed their design philosophy over time, but I don’t think that they’ve been getting better or worse, just different
@BahhBahhBrownSheep
@BahhBahhBrownSheep Жыл бұрын
as an outsider who hasn’t enjoyed a pokeybug game since the GBA, I think it’s MUCH worse.
@blackfox4138
@blackfox4138 Жыл бұрын
The designs aren't better or worse, what's worse is production standards.
@ediakin4993
@ediakin4993 Жыл бұрын
As always some pokemon you like and some dislike there never was good for everyone
@ediakin4993
@ediakin4993 Жыл бұрын
​@@BahhBahhBrownSheepyou should just try new games
@drakegrandx5914
@drakegrandx5914 Жыл бұрын
I mean, if so many people are dissatisfied with the current looks because so many pokemons don't feel like pokemon anymore, in this case "different" is definitly "worse". Designs don't work in a vacuum, they must service the product they are being used for.
@sandspada
@sandspada 4 ай бұрын
One of the biggest changes is just the ratio of cool monsters to cute gimmicks. Sure, Gen 1 had stuff like Voltorb or Mr Mime that were obviously silly gimmicks, and Gen 9 has stuff like Lokix or Corviknight that are cool, detailed monsters. But newer gens lean so much more into the gimmick territory that they really don't fit with the design sensibilities fans of older gen Pokemon like
@TRUEKingEN
@TRUEKingEN Жыл бұрын
I still stand by that same idea of every generation has its bad designs (yes even Kanto and Unouva) but they all have a lot of great designs too. Favorite design is Bulbasaur and Popplio Least favorite I really don’t have a least favorite design, each of them is great or funny in their own way.
@jenssuperkalifragelistisch4488
@jenssuperkalifragelistisch4488 Жыл бұрын
So ypu say, every generatoiom has bad designs, just to argue that there are no bad designs two sentences later?
@diekrahe.
@diekrahe. Жыл бұрын
I really hate the creepy faces at 12:46 Good job
@ThePlasmicAlchemist
@ThePlasmicAlchemist Жыл бұрын
I feel like you may have missed the point of the change in designs. I believe every single generation has its own signature design theming, but newer gens have been crutching more on the idea of wearing their personality on their sleeve. I'm bad at explaining things, so I'm sorry if some things get lost in translation. ● Generation 1 is obviously the roughest looking one. They all look like beasts & animals; something that just almost looks like you could find them in your backyard! ● Generation 2 has a style I can't seem to put into words. Many of them are still gruff, but they look a little friendlier, somehow. Soft, simple details are mixing with the rough, angular details, making for designs that are more quirky or uncanny than the previous gen! ● Gen 3's Pokémon are a direct response to previous criticisms. These creatures almost all have strikingly sharp patterns & designs with bright, eye-catching colors that deliberately clash to get your attention! You can tell they wanted to make a Pokémon you will remember for the rest of your life when you see one of rhem! ● Generation 4 uses more muted colors for its designs to express a cooler climate. Soft, swirly shapes come to my mind when I think Gen 4 - like Pachirisu's tail, or the tuft of hair on Chimchar's head. There's also a bigger use of button eyes, a larger eyes-to-face ratio, and there's a noticeable departure from the sharp, angular designs of the past. ● Generation 5 returns to the bright, eye-catching colors, but it does a lot more to make itself stand out. Many of its small or cute designs are more chibi-like, while the cool designs have fierce or stoic looks to them. It's as if these Pokémon were designed to fit inside a comic book world! If I go any longer, I don't feel like I have enough descriptions to justly describe further generations. All I could say are "gen 6 looks whimsical," and "gen 8 splits between sporty designs & English folktale-looking designs."
@prayagsuthar9856
@prayagsuthar9856 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I agree, it seems more like each region has its own unique style as opposed to there being an overall style that’s somehow changing. I think I saw a “Did You Know Gaming” video about Gen 3, where someone said in an interview that Gen 1 and 2 Pokémon looked similar to each other, while Gen 3 Pokémon looked much different to set itself apart from those past games.
@bluebaron6811
@bluebaron6811 Жыл бұрын
I would say gen 6's designs really hit the spot between simple and gimmicky designs. Yes, there are things like Aegislash who is a gimmick, but lots of gen 6 Pokémon are ones you couldn't tell are gimmick designs in the first place. Goodra, Pyroar, Heliolisk, Dedenne, Tyrantrum, Dragalge, and a lot more HAVE a gimmick in their design, but it's not forcing the gimmick. It took me *10 years* to learn that Dedenne was supposed to be a tooth fairy, whereas I look at Quaquavel and I go "yep, that sure is a Brazilian dancer duck".
@princessnazario2597
@princessnazario2597 Жыл бұрын
Great observation and analysis, but the guy says in the video himself is that problem isn't that each generation has their own unique style. The problem is that most of these ideas are executed rather poorly and sort of even miss the whole concept of Pokemon. For example, the gen 8 starter's final evolutions don't look powerful creatures you're taking but literally just humans. The more humanoid, gimmick or otherworldly designs (that are not animal based)should be a MINORITY, not a majority. Other times, a lot of Pokemon look out of place with the general universe of Pokemon UNINTENTIONALLY these days. Not to mention the whole 3-d versus 2-d situation going on. Sometimes, a dynamic static pose can really save a Pokemon concept from looking too boring or basic. With the graphics of modern games looking mediocre, you can see this leak into the Pokemon illustrations or even designs themselves as now they look far too static and humanoid. When it comes to more otherwordly and weird looking Pokemon "designs" like ultra beasts, if you asked a pixel artist to draw those things, they'd probably die.
@cbbblue8348
@cbbblue8348 11 ай бұрын
It always my head cannon that Pokémon never forgets the Youkai watch war when Youkai watch beat them on their home turf for like a year. And decided to steal Youkai watch 1-3 design philosophy and completely kicking Youkai watch out of competition.
@cristiancepeda_yt
@cristiancepeda_yt 9 ай бұрын
What a bout gen 9
@1stAid
@1stAid 4 ай бұрын
The "I feel like I'm training a fucking man" instantly got the video my like
@alanalot
@alanalot Жыл бұрын
7:42 I would like to learn more.
@Glacial_floofs
@Glacial_floofs 9 ай бұрын
lopunny is based on the millionaire playboy sign. nothing else to add
@brendent.934
@brendent.934 Жыл бұрын
And yet again, you prove that someone who makes funny and sometimes nonsensical videos are capable of making insightful videos of topics that people would never look into- thank you for enlightening me today! 10:39 and that is a sad, sad truth.
@jasonthejazzman8521
@jasonthejazzman8521 Жыл бұрын
I don't believe they've gotten worse, but when I saw the Magikarp morph into a Bruxish (shudder) I involuntarily said "YES" 11:26
@felip3442
@felip3442 Жыл бұрын
This is such a nice video. Made me laugh out loud a couple times. Been a while since I watched such a well written and animated funny video like this
@Echo81Rumple83
@Echo81Rumple83 Жыл бұрын
this is what i find refreshing about the Rune Factor series: they recycle the same monsters, but their designs are recreated for newer next-gen consoles like the Nintendo Switch that makes it hard to go back to the old days of low polygon counts like the Nintendo DS. that and farming and RPG elements are my go-to destressors.
@theruleroftheinternet8260
@theruleroftheinternet8260 Жыл бұрын
Some of my favorite looking pokemon are things like rhydon. Tyranitar. Nidoking. Aggron. Charizard. The list goes on but I think you get the idea. all of these things look like they're ready to do some damage. I like other kinds for different reasons but if anything looks similar to those ones they're pretty much guaranteed to make my favorite list
@Matrixmacy
@Matrixmacy Жыл бұрын
It is absolutely the games graphics that hold back the new Pokémon’s amazing designs. That and the fact that they are in 3d without any real 3d-esque animations. If the main Nintendo company made the mainline Pokémon games instead of game freak and didn’t have the insane time crunch to release new games every year then the animations and world could be beautiful and give these great Pokémon designs time to shine. This would also allow you to see classic Pokémon having new polish and personality. Like with every starter coming to SV in the upcoming dlc, imagine if SV had good quality animations already then people would be insanely hype to see their favorite starter come back in this new light. Playing TotK and coming back to Pokémon violet makes you directly see the sad state that the graphics are in.
@Matrixmacy
@Matrixmacy Жыл бұрын
If you don’t like the new designs in modern Pokémon please look at the fanmade sprite projects for gen 9 and earlier that make sprites for every Pokémon in gen 5 style spritework. They look absolutely incredible. Now look back at 3d Pokémon games that weren’t made by gamefreak like Pokémon stadium and look at the care put into their animations. Imagine SV in either 2d or 3d with actual care put into the games graphics and style
@dingola_
@dingola_ Жыл бұрын
HARDLY agree man
@nicolasacosta1673
@nicolasacosta1673 5 ай бұрын
The ultimate test is asking someone that knows nothing about pokemon to recognize a gen1 vs later gens. Guaranteed if you show someone a charizard they'll know its a pokemon if you show them something from gen5 they'll have no idea.
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