Citadel PAT 12 Review & Shoot CHEAP 12 Gauge Tactical Shotgun

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[@brimstonefootsteps4332]

Unless it has recently changed, the Citadel, Geforce (same gun same company) are not rated for slugs. Unfortunately they do not advertise that very well. Nice review.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Where did you find that information? I read the entire manual and it only warns about steel shot in relation to choke sizes. Perhaps they changed it then?

[@brimstonefootsteps4332]

@@BuckeyeBallistics I actually had the same shotgun and after shooting a couple slugs the barrel had a 4' crack in it near the front. I called the company and they told me about the barrel not taking slugs. I noticed the same thing you did about the thin barrel. It's just a heads up in case you have any issues and to be safe.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

@@brimstonefootsteps4332 I appreciate the heads up. But if they don't put it in the paperwork with the gun, then they are legally liable for that.

[@brimstonefootsteps4332]

@@BuckeyeBallistics I agree. Just hope everyone stays safe. The did replace my barrel btw and I still use the shotgun!

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

@Brimstone Footsteps That's good that they replaced it. I'll pin your comment to warn others...

[@djk2290]

I just bought one yesterday mine was $269 not bad, nice review viedo.

[@halfcirclehranch6877]

Other channels: We've wrapped new clear ballistic with bacon and prime rib, then covered it with a new leather jacket. We'll take one shot at it, then throw it all in the trash. Guns&Cars: We're just going to use this paper target we used in two other videos. This is my last box of ammo and it's 6 days until payday.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Feel free to donate to the channel if this is a complaint. That'd be $120 for a new clear gel block, $8 for a pack of bacon, $50 minimum for the jacket, and about $30-$40 for the prime rib. Oh plus gas money and ammo. Just round it off and call it $200. So when can I expect the check?

[@halfcirclehranch6877]

@@BuckeyeBallistics Not complaining one bit. You put out great content without the giant, and sometimes wasteful, budgets some other channels use. Really respect what you do, man. Do you happen to have a Patreon or anything for donations?

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Well my appologies but I wasn't sure where you were going with that analagy lol. I don't do patreon and I have my reasons, but it's too much to dicuss in a youtube comment. There is the "thanks" button under the videos that allows for donations, but I'd feel wrong about accepting anything from you now. I didn't mean to come off the way I did- I thought you were saying my channel sucked with your original comment.

[@stevepotter98]

Excellent timing and video, thank you so much. I actually looked online at this model and a few others last night. Take care

[@drydreams8513]

I got myself a cheap maverick 88 years back for $230 then gutted it and invested idk maybe $160 in upgrades and mods parts and it works great smooth accurate and fun to shoot. It worked fine before straight out of the box but with the custom work on it it’s a dream come true

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

The Mav is a much better gun, just doesn't look as cool.

[@brockhowell2296]

I have an FX3 20 gauge, semi-auto shotgun that was Turkish made. It works! I never tried shooting any 3-inch shells through it but it cycled 4-shot, slugs and 3-buck w/o any issues and considering I got it for about $150 (total) I can't complain. I'd certainly consider it to be one of my favorite Gunbroker buys.

[@tymccutchen]

Damn good price and seems like a good shotgun. I purchased a Savage Stevens 320 12g for my daughters birthday this year. Also a great shotgun for $200. 🙏🇺🇸🙏

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

That's the original cheap shotgun! Before all these imports...

[@bkb5668]

Hello, I have this exact shot gun (except it has a muzzle brake)made by dickinson and it is great. I would not worry about the barrel I have sent hundreds of 3" mags and it still functions as new. I also have thousands of 2 3/4" slugs and 00 buck down the barrel, some real heavy loadings. I have a dickinson 12 gauge with turkish walnut stocks and 18" battle barrel with heat shield, this is my favorite defense/battle shotgun and I own winchester, mossberg and remington shotguns, Thanks for the video. P.S. , the wood stock one was a combo 18" defense barrel and a 26" or 28" bird barrel I have never used the bird barrel it did come with a couple chokes.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

The guy in the comments that said this gun would only last 50rds should read yours lol.

[@bkb5668]

@@BuckeyeBallistics I say send rounds until it won't work or it is unsafe to do so. Keep it wet and it will run until you are tired of it. Everyone that shoots my battle shotgun wants to take it home so I guess each to his own.

[@bobg3633]

You have the same citadel? Do you know what heat sheild is compatable with it?

[@Itsmebeezy408]

Awesome. Do more videos on the PAT

[@Valorius]

I have one of those Turkish ATI Tac SX2 semi autos. Works great as long as it's clean, which suits my needs for it's purpose of Home Defense. I keep it loaded with 3-in Magnum 1 and 7/8 Oz hardened number 4 lead Turkey shot. In less than 2 seconds I can put almost three quarters of a pound of lead on target.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

I'd like to see that...

[@Valorius]

@@BuckeyeBallistics got a couple buddies coming down to the homestead in October I'll be making a slew of videos then. It'll definitely be one of them

[@Valorius]

I didn't make a new channel trailer for my page, if you happen to check it out at some point please do let me know what you think.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Did* - What part of Tucky you in?

[@Valorius]

@@BuckeyeBallistics Western extremely rural part. I love it here. I get into my woods and it's like 10,000 years ago, except for the occasional aircraft flying overhead (which are often SPECOPS MH60 Blackhawks and Chinooks)

[@aztecjoe29]

She's picky about the ammunition that goes in her. Awesome 12 gauge for the price I love my citadel Pat 12

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

I'm still using it in videos. It has held up well to several slugs, including some 3" magnums. Only problem I've had is the rail ripped off in one of those videos where I was torture testing a scope- scope flew off with the rail and smashed into the ground. Do not mount anything heavy on the rail... it doesn't actually screw into the reciever.

[@simbanugz2906]

Pretty sweet piece especially for the price. I miss the days i could legally carry, Lost my temper once did 5 years. This might sound ridiculous but have You ever try a compound bows? Ive gotten really good with Bows haha. Since i cant shoot its cool watching videos

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

I showcased an older bow last fall that I use for hunting. I don't have the money to be testing a bunch of $1000 bows- insane that they cost more than most guns. I do like them though...

[@ge0arc244]

Depending on the State (Texas for example) You can still own, hunt and protect yourself with a black powder rifle or handgun. My friend has the same problem as you, But hasn't given up hunting. He actually does better than me most year's using a CVA Paramount pushing a .45 caliber at over 2000 fps!

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

@ Ge0 Arc - I think some airguns are an option too for certain places.

[@gunsmore4584]

I paid about R4500 where i live...not so bad. Shot it the other day and im happy 💪🏽

[@williamlewis5688]

I got the same gun I cleaned my put some CLP on it now it smooth as butter no malfunction

[@kc0lif]

cool gun. yeah i got Citadel 20 inch shotgun semi auto i think the hog or something i know it's all black.

[@nakoawarrior3186]

I will refer to two Winchester guns barrels,.... the 1300 deer barrel was a thick heavy barrel,.......The 120 Ranger barrel was light and thin and accurate,....1300 barrel was not very accurate. Does the barrel have any proof mark's. Is the Scope Base metal or plastic?

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Good question. Inspected and there are no proof marks. Rail is metal.

[@jasonlopez4855]

I only buy cheeper rifle's and pistol's and put a little bit of work and never have a problem with my 🔫 is not hard to do. Cheeper stuff doesn't mean junk. I've got so much 🔫 I've got for cheep because they say it doesn't work properly- they don't put oil in the 🔫 I just put oil 🛢️ and it works fine for me.

[@halfcirclehranch6877]

Considering a Mossberg Maverick 88 Security runs around a hundred dollars more, that price point in an off brand doesn't really sound out of line.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

The 88 isn't a tactical shotgun though. Tac's always cost more...

[@halfcirclehranch6877]

@@BuckeyeBallistics The 88 Security is their tactical / home defense version, with pistol grip, short barrel, folding stock.

[@alexkosnick4864]

I just got the same gun, noticed mine was also very dry. Didn't shoot it yet so I will probably lube it first just to make sure it runs good. I did notice it did get hung up when I was trying to dry cycle it without ammo but like you said , it could be the lube issue

[@joeylopina]

Great review! How about an update? How's it holding up?

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Well I discovered that you souldn't put anything heavy on the rail (scope). The weight of the scope ripped the cheap rail right off and it slammed into the ground. Now the rail won't stay on at all because it's not actually screwed into the reciever- it's a compression fit via the screws pushing *against* the reciever and not actually going into it. I plan on drilling and tapping it and putting better screws in it to resolve this. Other than that it still runs good, runs pretty smooth now that it's well lubed and broken in with 75-100 shots through it now. It's holding up to slugs so far, even a few 3" magnums that I put down it last week. You can see the gun in action again in a few of the videos I have in the "caliber comparisons" playlist on the channel, and I have more comming still. Pay close attention and you will see the rail is missing in those videos lol.

[@joeylopina]

@@BuckeyeBallistics I watched another review for this Pat 12. He put on a red dot or some sort of optic. It flew right off after the first shot. Lol

[@BonanzabrosNY]

why is it some go in the side and not the bottom ?

[@officedullard8722]

I love budget guns.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

I second that- when they work lol.

[@MonchiiesR2]

150!!! I got mine for 399.99 💀💀

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Yikes

[@smug9471]

Turners sold them for a Christmas sale 2 years in a row. Check out turners around the holidays.

[@motorhead822gaming9]

Yeah I just got mine for 250$ when I seen the 150$ I was like damn!

[@bobg3633]

Dam bro, i got mine for 179

[@shotto_z4790]

You got fucked

[@Plx92u]

Mine doesn’t like to feed the 3in shells

[@oneLEADFOOT]

Thats a heck of a deal.

[@j2dun]

You mentioned 4+1 capacity. In every site that I went to it says it's only 3 capacity.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Yeah I know, I noticed that as well. But it holds 4. Must be 3 for the 3" shells...

[@bobg3633]

Do you know what heat sheild would be compatible on this i picked one up last year

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Do not, sorry.

[@bobg3633]

@@BuckeyeBallistics no worries

[@louie111887]

I see it advertised at 240.00 where I live.

[@maxjohn9972]

Just paid 318 out the door in California 🤣 The taxes alone on the gun was 45 dollars

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Hey but at least ya'll make 20 bucks and hour now 😂

[@maxjohn9972]

Oh boy it’s the best 🤣🤣

[@boxedinfo]

Zanesville oh ?

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Maybe 😁

[@bigrocc3925]

Any recommendations for a 12 gauge that holds 8+?

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Certain versions of the Mossberg 590 hold 7 or more in the mag, or for an autoloader, certain versions of their 930/940 hold 7 or more in the mag. For a budget option, there is a version of the Maveric 88 security that holds 7 in the mag...

[@whixhd3010]

Seen people saying this wont last after shooting a handful/bunch of rounds. Will this be a gun that lasts me a lifetime if treated correctly even with hundreds/thousands of rounds put through it or is this going to be a waist of money?

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Cannot confirm whether or not it would last that long. It *is* common that similarly cheap shotguns do tend to have issues if they see a high round count overall or too many magnum loads, but I'm not sure if that would be the case for this one or not. If you want a sure thing on a budget, I would say get a Mossberg Maveric...

[@whixhd3010]

@@BuckeyeBallistics Thank you for the response, I think I may just end up grabbing this one. I can pick it up in store tomorrow for $199 so i think it may be a snag, i just wanna put some rounds in it break it in and use it as a home defense (hopefully i never have to actually use it) but God forbid i did then i wanna make sure it does the trick

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

No problem. $199 isn't bad, but personally I would shop around and see if you can do better. I payed $149 as I said in the video, but not 2 weeks later I saw it elsewhere for $129. Sometimes that means waiting for sales though... If you want it now then I understand that $199 might be the best deal in your area currently.

[@whixhd3010]

@@BuckeyeBallistics Yeah i tried to look around, mostly everybody wants like $230-$250+ for anything branded with another name. Kinda itching to grab this one, just something about the look and the price keeps grabbing my attention

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

I have no complaints with mine so far, definately worth the 200 bucks.

[@williamlewis5688]

At least there made by Armscor there a very good company

[@aztecjoe29]

i love my citadel pat 12 gauge ghost sight falls off

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

I noticed mine came loose (after video) so I tightened it down. If it becomes a continued issue, I'll just use a little blue locktite on it.

[@aztecjoe29]

@@BuckeyeBallistics I tried that but it still comes off so I use JB welding now it will never come off

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Lol you're right about that

[@emperorpalpatine1228]

I have this same shotgun but it's all black.

[@aztecjoe29]

I loaded with two three-quarter I load 4 +1 buck

[@Plinkerrboy]

That’s the price of the gun but in California it’s double after taxes 😭

[@DonEnra]

Best purchase of 99 dollars

[@Natezoinks]

Fun video, 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@jasonlopez4855]

It can shoot 12 gage you think 💬 it will gust bend 🤔 not sure if that is right. How much pressure is in that barrel ⁉️ more then getting dropped on the ground.

[@Phelps1247PD]

My shop has it for $160 and its all black.

[@justis4men211]

Shotgun scope???

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Yes, they make shotgun specific scopes...

[@justis4men211]

@@BuckeyeBallistics I think you missed the point. 20 inch barrel "tactical home defense shotgun." with a scope? "IF" I need to shoot 50 yards I would choose a different weapon. But cool TOY.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

No, YOU missed the point. I said in the video that I'm more accurate with a scope, as are most people. Put a scope on this and it would shoot slugs accurate enough out to 100 yards to reliably harvest whitetail deer, whether you call it a toy or not. Lot of states you can only use a shotgun to hunt deer during gun season, so you can't just choose a "different" weapon to shoot 50 yards or beyond.

[@justis4men211]

@@BuckeyeBallistics So are you from Massachusetts or California?, Stick to cars.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

I'm done with this debate man. You also fail to realize that for a lot of people, this may be the only gun they can afford. So it may be nice to know for them that they can successfully hunt with it, as well as protect their home- doesn't matter if you think there is something better out there. And yes, I still hunt deer with shotguns...

[@jayronemartinez3679]

Probably gotta break it in

[@columbusohio72]

I was looking at a sale one for $120. Hmmmmm

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Saw that today as well

[@columbusohio72]

@@BuckeyeBallistics great time to buy weapons and ammo

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

RK has some good deals today

[@macriggland6526]

buy one gun and one box of ammo. use the gun up in 50 rounds and throw it away. whats not to love?

[@1keykneedeep]

No shotgun likes to run birdshot and speedshots

[@kentmoyer9773]

Ahh, an alloy. Not steel, which is an alloy. 😂

[@barrysmith5830]

$112

[@justis4men211]

Sights??? On a shotgun. And you said the word sights often enough to question your knowledge of shotguns in general. Carry on.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Yes, SIGHTS. It has a front sight and rear sight...

[@columbusohio72]

@@BuckeyeBallistics dude is a troll. Forgive him or her.

[@DanyulRaymondMusic]

get em while they are cheap because this is a great great shotgun someone told me