Cities Skylines or Cities Skylines 2 Which Game Should You BUY?

[@Grahtles]

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[@EvePlaya4Ever]

update: MY game stopped working. It's slo motion now at 900k population. I am sad. CS2 is broken. STAY on cs1 guys. CS2 only works until you have high population. I am surprised this happened. SO bad.

[@Grahtles]

Yeah from what I’ve heard everyone is saying the higher the population the less playable it is! Hopefully it will get fixed!

[@SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333]

@@GrahtlesI’m at 200k people and I don’t get demand for anything apart from commercial and industrial. Very rarely demand for anything else. Also, more than half my population is poorly or uneducated despite me having colleges and universities.

[@Grahtles]

@SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333 omg really that is soo soo bad! Just goes to show you the game isn’t worth buying yet

[@TheOofertaffy]

You're delusional if you think ANY city builder, or any game for that matter could handle 900k population, or an equivalent for a non city builder. That's like giving a skinny guy a 2000lb deadlift. It just doesn't make sense. At that kind of population. You SHOULD be expecting slo motion gameplay, because there is an astronomical amount of calculations going on in the background. It would be the same case for cities skylines 1. If you really expect cities skylines 2 to perform buttery smooth on a 900k city, you are setting your expectations way to high. I'm frankly shocked from reading your comment. As for @SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333's comment. IT was the same case in cities skylines 1. Around 100k population, demand would plateau , because the game was getting to around it's limits. I'd imagine it's the same case for CS2 unless you are using mods or something. I'm not denying CS2 doesn't have any problems. Because it has a lot of problems. It just some people set their expectations way to high with a game, whilst their expectations more realistically line up with games and technology 20-30 years in the future.

[@Haguel3]

900k? Its unplayable on 110k. I have I5-9400F, gtx 1660 super, 16 gb ram

[@NeverlandSystemZor]

To be fair, Cities Skylines is ENTIRELY playable with the base game... even without mods... it's MASSIVELY improved with mods... and the DLCs DO add to it- but it DOES stand alone on it's own.

[@Grahtles]

Completely but cities skylines 2 is not! I love the first game but not the second!

[@rlas]

When i clicked the video I expected a in depth review and comparison but this compromised video I was greeted with was even better than I expected. Great research and very objective review 👍

[@Grahtles]

Awe thanks so so much! I spent a lot of time on this video and so glad to see it’s appreciated! 😀

[@rlas]

@@Grahtles I can tell 🥰 If possible, id still like a in depth review of both games without DLCs to see what exactly has been changed. Only if theres time 😊

[@Grahtles]

@@rlas I will look into that for sure! 😀

[@adamcrookedsmile]

CS1 seems the way to go, but I hesitate at having to pay hundreds of dollars for DLCs for the game to reach its ful potential.

[@Grahtles]

Completely understand sales are the way to go. Wait for a great sale I promise it’s full of hours upon hours of fun!

[@m_jay5]

The realistic mods that keep getting added for CS1 will have that game going strong for years

[@Grahtles]

Absolutely

[@m_jay5]

@Grahtles I used to use AutoCAD to draft urban subdivisions and rural areas using the township survey system 6 mile by 6 mile grid so seeing this game is now capable of doing that to scale is truly a dream come true for me, I need to make a return to this game, seems the mods have only gotten better and better

[@Grahtles]

@@m_jay5 wow maybe with the cs2 blunder they ditched it to work on cs1 mods again that’s so nice!

[@Michaelmarkss]

In today's world, I knew it would be like this. I gave it 6 months from release before I buy it. ( I do that with almost all games today) but more so for this one. CS1 Still has ENDLESS beauty. I'm around $220 on my expansions for 1 amd don't plan on stopping.

[@Grahtles]

Completely agree with you! They just rush games out now and don’t care.

[@CitiesByDiana]

Excellent video and great fair comparison between the two.

[@Grahtles]

Awe thanks so much! ❤️

[@Kingedwardiii2003]

My queen! I love your insta

[@AccOriginal]

Great video and I agree with the current state of CS2. I won't buy it until it feels right and ready.

[@Grahtles]

Thanks Acc and yeah really wanted to like it but not yet!

[@Helfirehydratrans]

I’m gonna probably continue playing city skylines on one until they’ve added a lot more updates in DLC to city skylines 2

[@Grahtles]

I'm doing the same! I really still enjoy 1 way more!

[@electro5175]

I bought Cities Skylines 1 in September. The game is so fun especially with mods that make it fundamentally better. I’ll hold my money for Cities Skylines 2 until a while.

[@Grahtles]

Thanks so much for commenting and me too! I really have high hopes for CS2 some day, just not now! 😀

[@electro5175]

@@Grahtles oops sorry for the late answer :( i have no dlc packs but im still having a blast months after i bought it. the game is so good! maybe ill try cs2 with gamepass one day but im still enjoying cs1 for now.

[@Grahtles]

Awesome!!!!🙂

[@blastofo]

I have it on game pass, so no mods possible for me.

[@Grahtles]

@blastofo oh so sorry

[@thehuskyden]

Not sure why I never found your channel before, but glad I found you now. Great review, and I agree completely. I have high hopes for CS:2 but it needs a lot of love before I am ready to commit or even want to watch content on KZbin for it. I am so happy you're going to continue to put out content for the first game.

[@Grahtles]

Thank you so much and yes I took a long hard look at whether to get this game and it just doesn’t make sense right now! I really love cities skylines 1 and enjoy it so much! Thanks again 😀

[@JakeGemzen]

The most honest explanation I've heard to date. I want cities 2 to be good so bad but it just isn't yet.

[@Grahtles]

Thanks buddy and yeah me too! I was so excited and let down! 🙂

[@royaltyestateconstruction]

I feel the same way... City Skyline 1 is my cup of tea...looking forward to when you say City skyline 2 is a must-have...now im gonna dust of City skyline and build again 😊 ty for your honesty, your a women of good moral quality.

[@Grahtles]

Wow thank you so so much! And yes cs1 is the way to go!

[@NotLikeUs17]

I just started playing CS 1 early last year. So naturally when they announced CS 2, I was ready to hand over my money, until I started seeing all the issues people were having. I just couldn’t justify the price point and the state of the game. So I tried CS 2 on game pass yesterday. It’s a beautiful game, and I didn’t experience any performance issues, but there’s something so lack luster about the game that after about an hour of messing around with it, I turned off and loaded CS 1.

[@Grahtles]

Completely agree with you!

[@metromaster2010]

Agree completely. CS2 is just not ready, particularly for the experienced CS1 player. Hopefully it will soon mature into what we are hoping for.

[@Grahtles]

Thanks for your comment and yes hopefully 🤞🏻

[@matra21]

Hey guys, I hope it's the right place to ask. So I'm contemplating between buying CS1 or CS2. I am a casual builder with some experience in SimCity, but I've wanted to try something new for years now. My idea was to buy CS1, but as the years went by, CS2 was released (I don't have much free time) and I see all the criticism surrounding it. So as a kind of beginner, who won't spend 10 hours daily on the game, but rather just play it casually sometimes, which game would you recommend?

[@Grahtles]

Cities skylines 1 you will be completely happy with it

[@unknnoowmaxence6309]

I bought cities skyline 2 when it came out. Played a month and went back to cities skyline 1. Way more fun and interesting to play

[@Grahtles]

I agree with you 💯

[@luberzki]

Fortunately Cities Skylines 2 is availabe on Game Pass. Although the performance (FPS) is not good enough and I need to set with lower graphic quality, but still playable on ROG Ally and I love it.

[@Grahtles]

Thats great 👍🏻

[@yvonetubla7682]

you should not buy either you should download and crack

[@Grahtles]

No worries I won’t buy it lol

[@FecalExcrement]

I remember being obsessed with Roller Coaster Tycoon when I was a kid. Is Cities similar to that? I really wish there was a Roller Coaster Tycoon game on consoles.

[@Grahtles]

Omg me toooo! At least with PC you can get planet coaster that’s fun but not in the same way as roller coaster tycoon

[@-noplangaming-9268]

no doubt about it cs2 is wildly better than cs1 even upon release

[@Grahtles]

That's interesting, extremely rare someone had a great experience with this game day 1. Thanks for commenting!

[@-noplangaming-9268]

@@Grahtles I wouldn't say I had a great experience with cs2, but when comparing both games when both released cs2 is like cs1 with mods upon release. Not only that but from the jump maps were way larger, the game was able to run way more cims, and graphics were wildly better. Couple that with its a simulation game and not a fps game to me it just makes sense that we won't have an avg 60fps regardless of equipment. Yea cs2 is a way better base game than cs1, cs1 just had 8 years to get better same way cs2 will have to get better than 3.

[@gokustheater3056]

who’s here after binging city skylines 1

[@Grahtles]

Don’t understand what you mean

[@stormfire962imastarcitizen5]

Well done on the review and thank you for your feedback as well. As far as the problems that exist in CS2 which I don't believe is colossus order fault but is in fact paradox interactive's fault since they are the publishers and are most likely the culprits who push this ridiculous timeframe that colossus order had to work under to build the game which is sadly so short that they didn't have proper time to clean up the game as well as the bucket. Colossus orders company is comprised of game developers. Paradox interactive is comprised of huge money investors with zero knowledge on game development and are only interested in making big money fast and they only got lucky on the original CS game at the time when it was released. To make matters even worse CS2 may die because they are focusing more energy on completing the console Version which is a huge mistake since most gamers don't realize that any game developer that signs a contract with the console manufacturers like Sony and Xbox they literally lose all control of their game development. Because the console manufactures set up the contracts in such a way that all game developers no longer have any control over the development of their game. In essence console manufactures are by far the worst publishers to ever exist and this is one of the many reasons why many consoles literally do not have many games for them anymore because these manufacturers literally destroyed minigame developers through their contracts. If you don't believe me go do your own research and you're going to find out that I'm right.

[@Grahtles]

Yes I definitely believe this is all paradox doing pushing them to release games with a deadline that aren’t ready! I will also look into the console contacts that’s so interesting and discouraging. Thanks for the information it’s really appreciated!

[@peterm.petrus386]

I just prepared a huge amount of money to get a new pc tomorrow mainly for this game... But, after your review, maybe I'll hold on to it a bit longer. Thanks! Great review 👍

[@Grahtles]

So glad you found it helpful. 😃

[@NotLikeUs17]

Try it on game pass if you can

[@Grahtles]

@@NotLikeUs17 I don’t have game pass

[@NotLikeUs17]

@@Grahtles I can’t in good conscience recommend that game outside of game pass and even playing on game pass there’s a high probability for disappointment. I really feel for the people who paid full price for CS 2 especially being in the state that it’s in.

[@Grahtles]

@@NotLikeUs17 oh yes I agree that is why I made this video because I could not promote a game that cost this much money.

[@shinyshine33]

I already bought CS2 and so far there have been so many bugs. Basically I figure they develop CS2 to promote CS1.

[@Grahtles]

@@shinyshine33 could be but honestly they just put out an unfinished game

[@gimlybait]

Thanks for this video! I'm sticking with CS1, I've only logged about 20 hours and there's still so much of it that I'm yet to explore! Just a suggestion, it would have been nice if you got into specifics about what was off about CS2, I'm still unclear. Even when showing reviews and articles, it would have helped if your voiceover summarised what they said.

[@Grahtles]

Your so welcome and your absolutely correct I should have added more details but I did link articles in the description if you would like to see them.

[@cardsandcraftcottage]

Thanks for the review. I just took advantage of the sales going on at the moment and finished buying the DLCs. I want to get the creator packs as well. I came to C:S late but I love the game. I have no desire to change to 2 and this probably won't happen until 2 things happen. 1 I think that I'm finished with 1, this could take awhile and 2 - when I can upgrade my computer and this will be ages.

[@Grahtles]

Awe thanks so much for you comment. I agree thing have to majorly change with cs2 even the big creators are going to run out of things to do! I love the first game and will stick with it!

[@O1dmanwalker]

I'm a console player of cs1. I was bored and saw cs1 on sale in march so i figured why not. Cs1 has taken over my life!! I got every dlc. I really hope they make a dlc to unlock all 25 squares

[@Grahtles]

That would be great! I started on console and graduated to pc the game is so good that you really can’t get enough! Best city builder ever honestly!

[@Theo.L]

I think I got a mod that unlocked all the squares

[@Grahtles]

@Theo.L on console there’s no mods at all unfortunately

[@Theo.L]

@@Grahtles oh... and damn u were fast to respond😮

[@Grahtles]

So Xbox did have some mods but they suck and ps4 has no mods and I just happened to see your question when I picked up my phone 😊

[@phantomstarlight1366]

"We don't get a complete game anymore" And that's why I don't buy them either. Because I add up the cost of all the DLC before buying anything.... and then decide I'd rather not spend several hundred dollars on a single game. Seriously. One or two expansions I can tolerate, albeit rarely ever buy, but these games with like 50? I don't even want to touch. I just bought simcity4 instead. Might not be the best anymore, but it's enough to scratch my citybuilding itch, and it only cost me a dollar.

[@Grahtles]

Yes 🙌 thanks so much for commenting and I completely agree with you!

[@FindBp]

thanks for the insight, really appreciate it. guess i just buy more expansion at cs1 then

[@Grahtles]

Your welcome! Glad it could be of help. For now that’s your best bet.

[@ChrisRLP]

Also still sticking with CS1. CS2 gets fixed and there are already mods, but until it is in a playable state, I'm not getting it.

[@Grahtles]

Yes 🙌 Me too

[@douglasjordao8447]

CS2 is a trash game right now. Doesn't worth the money. You MUST got some mods to actually have fun, graphics seems weird sometimes even if it was supposed to be better, and game will consume every bit of processing power of your PC as the city grows. CS1 remastered is still the better option. Even if you play it with no mods you can have some fun.

[@Grahtles]

I agree with you 100%! Thanks for watching!

[@nikakmal7342]

Thanks for the reviews. Much appreciated!

[@Grahtles]

No problem glad you liked it.

[@kena-z8d]

thanks for the reviews, appreciated!

[@Grahtles]

Your so welcome! 😀

[@tysonbowers6110]

Actually what is different between the games?

[@Grahtles]

There are a lot of differences. The second one has different game play like more economic heavy and stuff the biggest difference is the second one also has had a lot of problems running when the population gets high. My suggestion would be to look on steam at the comments to get a much better understanding of the issues with the second game. Also the first game has been out a while and had so many DLC’s for hours and hours of fun. I really hope this helps.

[@TrevorLaVigne]

why put out an update to the graphics when you re-release the same game and drop another 100 of the same dlcs lmao smh

[@thenaberius6081]

TBH, you can get all dlc for free if you change one file......

[@Grahtles]

@@thenaberius6081 nice but I’d rather do it on the up and up thanks!

[@An_Economist_Plays]

Given a choice between the devil that I don't know at the awesome game that I do know... yeah, Cities 1 for me! 🙂

[@Grahtles]

Yeah agree! 😀

[@RayRayWasAGoodBoy]

Sick of waiting to buy a game because it was released in beta state honestly…

[@Grahtles]

💯

[@elnewbie2611]

Give cs2 a couple of years and only then it will start to compete aggressively with cs1

[@Grahtles]

I really hope so! I’m afraid they will abandon the game!

[@elnewbie2611]

@@Grahtles let's hope that doesn't happen, cs1 is amazing, but cs2 has alot of potential, they just need to invest into optimization, compatibility and focus on giving a finished game, in the long run cs2 can potentially make a comeback.

[@Grahtles]

@elnewbie2611 completely agree 🤞🏻

[@northlandnoobbiker7962]

Your voice sound like curly fragrance ❤

[@Grahtles]

😊❤️

[@Paul-un2bj]

Still loving SC1 won't be in no rush to get SC2

[@Grahtles]

I agree 😃

[@nanotech2080]

What race do you play?

[@Grahtles]

@@nanotech2080 not exactly sure what your asking.

[@nanotech2080]

@@Grahtles That one was for Paul :) But you can google sc2 if you're curious haha

[@Grahtles]

@@nanotech2080 oh thanks sorry 😆

[@Tacommander]

You want a comparison because you have a limited amount of money I want a comparison coz one is 2 gigs and the other is 40 gigs We're not the same

[@Grahtles]

You don’t make any sense the second game is a piece of garbage

[@simplebuildsmcYT]

i can run cs2 at 40 fps and i use a gaming laptop

[@Grahtles]

Well maybe they have made some improvements because it has been a struggle for many

[@itzdave1249]

I am very scared that my PC is not gonna run Cities Skylines 2... GTX 1660 Super, R5 3400g and 16 gigs of RAM... Probably not enough...

[@Grahtles]

I would say no, but your not alone so many of us can’t even with better computers then yours or mine.

[@caducoppini]

Yesss

[@Grahtles]

😃

[@mariembuenaventura1278]

I can't afford CS II so its City Skyline I it is haha

[@Grahtles]

Lol oh me too I would have to upgrade my computer to the max which I cannot afford either but I also think that cities skylines 2 just isn’t a great game yet so we shall see! Thanks for commenting

[@TheJojoso]

how do you add mods in steam skylines 1 ?

[@Grahtles]

you go to steam workshop then add the mods you want in the start of your game you should see custom content or something like that make sure there activated.

[@lSoyLunal]

I don't have enough money to buy it :(

[@Grahtles]

Awe which game cs1 or cs2

[@lSoyLunal]

@@Grahtles I just want to build my own city... Whatever is good for me u.u

[@Grahtles]

@@lSoyLunal CS1 is the best bet as of now!

[@jmchau]

yep

[@Grahtles]

😁

[@whimsical1788]

Cities: Skylines Cities: Skylines 2 MAX 30 FPS :❌ ✔ Expansive DLC ✔ ❌ Horrific traffic AI ✔ ❌ Expansive Mods ✔ ❌ CS:1 Is better in price, community, and some more, but CS:2 is better in graphics, Traffic, And more. The specs i have and the average performance i get in both games (Average city) RTX 4060 TI Intel I5 12400F 32 GB DDR4 1 TB NVME SSD 1920x1080 165 HZ Max graphics : Cities: Skylines Cities: Skylines 2 About 110 FPS Around 30 FPS but possibly around 60 on lower graphics.

[@akdamagecontrol]

CS:1 . . . It's not perfect but it has the workshop!

[@Grahtles]

Oh yes 100% and there nothing like the mods and assets for cs1

[@danielglover4863]

Old != bad

[@Grahtles]

I completely disagree with you!

[@danielglover4863]

@@Grahtles for the record, != means "does not equal" so my comment above means "old does not equal bad" I still play Cities Skylines 1 very happily to this day.

[@Grahtles]

@@danielglover4863 Oh Thanks 🤣🤣🤣 All Good!!!

[@okabc-ho9xw]

Annoying music!

[@Grahtles]

Really That's what you comment about hysterical!

[@okabc-ho9xw]

@@Grahtles No, I find the video very infomartive. But as a creator you shouldn't feel so attacked by one simple comment about your video. Instead you should use it as feedback and determinate if you do something with it. Now you come across as insecure and not listening to feedback is bad for your channel. Just a tip since you're still a small creator.

[@Grahtles]

@@okabc-ho9xw No not insecure at all. If your going to give feedback in a constructive way then you don't just put annoying music. You can add more then that. To me you just came off as a troll. If you want to actually help you could have said something like "very informative video but, the music isn't really for me" but you instead just wrote annoying music. As far as the music I use it often and have had a lot of positive things said about it. So thank you for your input.