The Non-Lethal "Grenade" in Every Game

A big thank you to @DaishoTactical for helping with this video.
In shooters, peeking an angle is incredibly dangerous. And if an opponent is holding down that angle, death is almost certain. There have been tools introduced into games to try and even the odds - many adapted from real life. The most well known of these, is of course, the flashbang.
So, whats the difference between video game and real life flashbangs?

[@civilianuseonly]

I want to apologize for the image at 2:55, and thank everyone who noticed that it is AI generated. When I make these videos, I typically build up a library of images to refer to while I do my research. In this instance, I did not realize this was an AI-generated image. I have since blurred the image, though it may take KZbin some time to update this. Please note that this mistake is solely my own, and has nothing to do with the information provided from Rob at Daisho Tactical. On a personal note, I am vehemently against any AI-generated art. Nothing on this channel is AI generated (other than the aforementioned image), and that's how things will remain so long as I am running this channel.

[@mitchellstevens2209]

@@civilianuseonly I would like to start with saying I am a big fan of the channel, in the edit of this video why did you make the choice to include this image? I am curious.

[@mitchellstevens2209]

Do you edit the videos your self or do you pay someone else?

[@civilianuseonly]

​@@mitchellstevens2209 Everything is done by me, I'm the only one who runs this channel. As for the image, I was attempting to show multiple different models of flashbangs developed over time.

[@pyeitme508]

Oh ok...

[@d15p4tch6]

based

[@HYPERR3AL]

"If you're in a fair fight, your tactics suck. And if you're playing fair in a gunfight, you're dead." Truer words were never spoken.

[@penguixyt3246]

One flashbang fact about their effectiveness and how they can be rendered ineffective comes from Fallujah, US marines during the battle found that their flashbangs overtime lost effectiveness, what was happening was that combatants who were caught in a breach but survived spread information about Marine breaching tactics, specifically how they would always start a breach with a flashbang, this allowed combatants who knew to be able to anticipate when a flashbang was thrown, and to move to cover or concealment, or simply expect the jarring effects and power through them, and then immediately be focused on the area they were breaching from, making breaches far harder later on in the battle. Flashbangs are most effective when your enemy doesnt know you have them, and using them too much, becoming too predictable, renders their effects null.

[@shikikanaz4624]

thats when you switch things up and use fragmentation grenades first

[@josedorsaith5261]

Russians learned something similar during the Chechnya conflict. The GM-94 with thermobaric munitions became a potent room-clearing tool

[@iambrando8342]

“Shotgun bang and clear” Favorite line from Ready or Not

[@justanormalspearton9490]

"If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying." -Fat Electrician

[@Notd0not]

2 videos in one week? damn i am impressed

[@SleeplessBrazilLimbo]

really great distintion; "in video games flashbangs facilitates killing but in real life theyre meant to save lives"

[@petitponeydu7727]

This channel reminds me of Ahoy, but with far more frequent uploads ! keep up the good work man !

[@shoemender972]

I watched something from Chris the Cop about Ready or Not. In one part, he was talking about the prevalence of swat teams in the 90s using flash bangs constantly. Eventually they mostly phased them about, even mentioning they dont really do much direct action these days and theres less loss of life all around if they just surround the house, mega phone, tear gas if needed, etc. He went on to say there was many cases of young children being burned or even killed by flashbangs. I believe there was a case of one landing in a crib. Can you imagine? Terrible. He also told a story of one being shot on the guys tactical vest (plate carriers werent a thing in the 90's) and it went off and got him in the face. Killed the officer.

[@FIVEBASKET]

Yea poor child.

[@civilianuseonly]

Use of flashbangs seems to vary agency by agency both in the US and worldwide.

[@shoemender972]

@civilianuseonly right; chris the Cop was a cop in LA I believe

[@jimmy8814]

Hell yeah more vids, I seriously love these weapon analysis man

[@pigstigs4413]

I love where the direction of this channel is going. Not only is the format of hearing your research behind each topic entertaining, the fact that you actually contextualize it both in reality AND in gaming in a way that's intuitive in both contexts really educates civilian gamers like me.

[@kolinmartz]

2:02 false. A grenade doesn’t have to launch projectiles. That’s why fragmentation grenades were a separate class from high explosive grenades. Also slower burning/lower energy explosives/pyrotechnics already existed before flashbangs. Smoke, chemical effect and indindiary grenades are all still grenades. By definition a grenade is a hand thrown explosive.

[@pyeitme508]

Yes, next lethal grenades

[@Stahlbrand]

Great video, I appreciate learning more about something so ubiquitous in media, but not usually experienced by the people playing or watching.

[@civilianuseonly]

I learned a lot too. Rob is very knowledgeable

[@craniumpliskin7176]

"One poorly aimed shot" proceeds to only aim the hostage

[@civilianuseonly]

It's not a hostage situation if there are no hostages

[@angoankhachai9333]

You know, in that sense, it was a pretty well-aimed shot

[@Owls365]

we don't negotiate with terrorists and we certainly don't negotiate with their hostages

[@Owls365]

"We don't negotiate with terrorists and we certainly don't negotiate with their hostages"

[@imanuelc143]

Russian counter-terrorist :

[@EmotionalCabbage12]

The 10 flashbangs coming from T spawn in cs2

[@AutismIsUnstoppable]

Its nice to see some Ground Branch footage. Great game

[@artcevolution1408]

I’m surprised this doesn’t have more views, really well made video nice job

[@cappo1178]

The amount of research that goes into these videos is commendable, great upload schedule too!

[@theodorebear6714]

I know "non-lethal" really means "less-than-lethal" A flash (also called concussion grenade) is one of those that's supposed to be less-than-lethal. It can still fvck people up or even kill them.

[@bennyb.1742]

Yeah 160db of pressure. Most people don't know that "loud noises" are pressure waves, and that's WAY more than enough to scramble your brain. Heck, I just finished watching a thing where some SOF guys mentioned they run mandatory suppressors now because they were giving each other concussions from muzzle blast during breaches.

[@POTUSJimmyCarter]

​@bennyb.1742 a disproportionately high number of mortarmen come out of the military with traumatic brain injuries, not from any one incident but from the constant pressure waves that are happening less than a meter from their heads. An ex coworker of mine who was a Chuck showed me one of his cranial CT scans and then a bunch done of boxers and football players who'd been diagnosed with chronic traumatic encephalopathy, exact same patterns. The mortar is beating them about the head every time it fires.

[@mon1tor409]

i think flashbang immunity built when one has experienced many flashbangs for a long time

[@anthonynguyen2661]

yea, going deaf is one of the immunity

[@MrMonkFisher]

I am really enjoying these videos and learning lots!

[@ReboyGTR]

5:05 *Verbally? THE GUYS IS DEAFENED FROM THE BANG! How is he supposed to hear anything?*

[@Joe93819]

Exactly, and cops will just end up shooting when the person won’t comply to orders they can’t hear

[@NuniaBiznaz]

He'll be able to hear eventually. The deafening effect doesn't last that long. You just keep screaming until they come out with their hands up or otherwise confirm compliance verbally themselves.

[@POTUSJimmyCarter]

There've been police standoffs that last over 24 hours. As long as you're not doing something like executing hostages or setting up explosives, the police have all the time in the world to wait for you to change your mind about what you're doing. And every now and then they might use a persuasion tool like a flashbang.

[@jantimmer5558]

Love the videos, maybe you could do one on the stinger grenade?

[@NirTichon]

What a great video!

[@PatricTheSpartian]

I actually like how flashbangs are recreated in Tarkov. Very difficult to use, but when it works, it's amazing.

[@Joe93819]

Remember that one time some cops threw a flash bang into a babies crib and the baby burned to death?

[@raulins100]

Enjoying the branching out of content on the channel!

[@DaishoTactical]

Great job!

[@delroku]

who needs a flashbang when you have collateral?

[@SGT51]

Do yourself a favor and dont watch this at night 😂

[@pja6476]

Another W from the OG

[@foottingthaiusa]

Me fragmentation or high explosive grenades are my preferred method. I don't use flashbang

[@T1Oracle]

Flash bangs can kill...

[@chedisalhi2382]

"The good guys " says the westerner

[@kevinmoh3882]

Of course Arma gets it right.

[@emanuelarriaza3710]

Its not in stalker 2 😢

[@benjyfour]

wtf is wrong with this vid 5 days out and 7500 views UFF

[@slyllamademon2652]

Fun fact: flash bangs do not work on Night Vision. Night Vision goggles also make using scopes and iron sights impossible which means you are locked to 1x Holographic sights or IR Lasers. I recommend 1x Holographic sights because the IR Laser will make you easy to spot. Note it will still deafen the target but it will not blind them.

[@dontworrybout2664]

This is a person who never used nv posting. Use active instead of passive. Passive is a last resort…once you go live the muzzle flash is brighter than any active aiming device you can use. That’s with a flash hiding suppressor.

[@dontworrybout2664]

Did you learn this technique from mgs?

[@mitchellstevens2209]

what was the point of the image at 2:55?

[@holli987]

Agreed, if you can't find an accurate image comparing a bunch of different flashbangs I think it's best to just leave it and not try and use AI to give a graphic. This person's writing style and delivery is solid to the point that you don't really need that image.

[@mitchellstevens2209]

@@holli987 I agree with you, i think more ready more not gameplay would have been a better editing choice.

[@civilianuseonly]

Thank you for noticing. I have since blurred it out, though KZbin may not have updated it yet

[@holli987]

@@civilianuseonly Works for me, thanks for listening to feedback!

[@Kannamoris]

I'm sorry... What was that AI generated junk at 2:57?

[@CryptidOath]

game? not cs but the other one

[@nobodyliar]

i want to know too

[@rikygamerE4037]

first

[@erinrizzo3004]

2:56 can you please not use AI generated images? Not only because of just moral reasons not to, your also just spreading misinformation and lies about the history of flashbang’s.

[@civilianuseonly]

Thank you for noticing. I have since blurred out that image

[@erinrizzo3004]

@@civilianuseonly thank you man.