Civilization 7’s IMPRESSIVE NEW Modern Age Civs & Leaders!

[@Kross415]

Not gonna lie, the USA getting 4 leaders when they've been around for less than 300 years while other nations over 2000 years old are getting 1-2 is kind of ridiculous 🤣

[@babyforestwhitaker7114]

All about who plays and pays

[@DirectorHatman]

They already specified Harriet Tubman was a personal choice for Firaxis because the company's in Maryland and that's where she was. I doubt the US gets more until an expansion, and Lafayette is an interesting enough pick due to the American/French connection. Gotta think about gameplay possibilities sometimes. Do agree that certain civs should get more interesting leaders that are closer to them historically though.

[@jazminelee7423]

Where are you getting 4 leaders? There’s only two.

[@DirectorHatman]

@@jazminelee7423 Benjamin Franklin has 2 personas + Harriet Tubman + Lafayette makes 4. Wouldn't count the two personas as a different character personally but yeah.

[@Kross415]

@@jazminelee7423 I heard they have 1 with the ''double personality'' and 2 others? Might be wrong but that was my understanding. Even if it's 3 the point still stands.

[@nikitastarikov1520]

Modern age without the British Empire, Russian Empire and Germany would be such a disaster. I hope they all come out next week

[@beanmemer3944]

What. 😅 i thought I was actually on acid when I saw your comment at first. Oh my GOD I have never seen somebody be more wrong. 😑 the Germans shouldn’t be allowed in the game- they literally killed 6 million Jews. Like what? “Oh let’s give the crazy murderers a civ” yeah no The British are much, much worse, I would say I don’t need to tell you why but considering your comment I think you are seven or younger and don’t know history. The British are absolutely the worst people to be alive and because of them black people were slaves so no… British people need to repent. You either make a realistic Britain in civ 7 by giving them slaves or you make a fake one because it’s literally a slave country. Without slaves it is just the British isle which is an insignificant country scientifically and culturally

[@Swrdfshtrmbns]

$39.99 each 😂

[@ereny9465]

Russia and Germany are definitely in the game. We have seen t-34 and panzerIII tanks in one of the footages.

[@beanmemer3944]

@@ereny9465 uhhh 😭 sorry honey but I promise you the tank model doesn’t matter. Every civ is gonna use the same model like every other game now go back to your broke life studying tanks 😅

[@ereny9465]

​@@beanmemer3944 honey bunny i dont care about your promises, i saw Iron Crosses on PanzerIII units, so that's clearly Germany, now simply, sod off baby

[@pcdog8903]

I think the modern civ’s staring bias is going to be for advanced starts. So you can play a modern age start.

[@JumboPixel]

That’s it! I imagine that won’t be many games % wise

[@StayInGoodSpirits]

@@JumboPixel there are only 3 ages in the BASE GAME, i bet my paycheck a true modern/future 4th age will come later on and thus traditions will be relevant

[@nzwj]

As a fellow kiwi, it's definitely a hazard talking about that Steam device with people overseas 😄

[@quentinellis]

Six are going to be revealed in a week?! This is going to be a great week!!

[@jaxsondenton8252]

Where did the say this if so I’m super excited

[@quentinellis]

​​@@jaxsondenton8252At around 11:20, he says that "Six will have been revealed in about a week".🎉

[@GirlVersusGame]

Your videos got me excited about the game. There were a few too many unknowns especially given all of the changes but you explained it all so well that I went ahead and got my pre-order in. Thanks JP.

[@barryday365]

Pretty sweet seeing Lafayette as a leader! He was the French general who, at the Golden Plough Tavern in York, Pennsylvania, stopped Horatio Gates from convincing the Continental Congress from supplanting George Washington as the general of the Continental Army. It was quite likely that, had Lafayette not given his speech in support of Washington, the United States would have lost the Revolutionary War. A very cool choice, now that Civ7 isn't using only national leaders.

[@danielgyllenbreider]

That leaders dislike weak civs is a bit weird, since they should dislike civs that they see as their worst competitors. Was the same in Civ 6 and it doesnt make any sense at all.

[@Anarchyttg]

I always saw it as them seeing smaller civs as lesser states only fit to be ruled. Kings in the Bronze age would use the term "Brother" to show equal status, and the first time an Assyrian king used the term in a letter, the response chastised him for daring to consider himself equal.

[@pooch7245]

I really hope its a British Civ, not an England Civ, for modern age. In every single Civ game they'd just combined English and British into one thing and called it "English". I want to have a more Victorian British Civ, but also exploration age English and Scottish civs before it.

[@mysterymastermind175]

100% agree, and let both the English and Scottish civ age up into the British civ, which I'd imagine would be a Militaristic/economic

[@TheToledoTrumpton]

@@mysterymastermind175 If they want to do it right, they should have Celts/Saxons(Germans)/Danes in the first age, English/Scottish/Irish in the Second age, and British in the 3rd Age. Unfortunately these are modern Americans here, and they really do love to blame their history on Europeans. It is very odd because of the 2 Civilization issues they want to blame on the British, are the 2 issues they went to war with the British fighting to preserve.

[@mysterymastermind175]

@TheToledoTrumpton They did make england and scottland separate civs last time, i think they could do it this time.

[@TheToledoTrumpton]

@ I honestly think that the Scots and the Irish shouldn't be separate, because of their common Celtic root. You probably know that Scotland was the Roman name for Ireland. And the Scotii were the Irish tribe, that went on to conquer modern day Scotland from the Picts. But I don't buy into this idea of "Branching Civilizations", that they are using in the Game, pretending that civilizations that "Lost" Civilization IRL, contributed much to the civilizations that conquered them doesn't seem to match the evidence. As I say though, it is just a game, it doesn't have to be very historically accurate. I also find it a little culturally insensitive, but I don't read these things very well. For example, I'm not sure that the remaining people who identify as Shawnee want to "Take the blame" culturally for modern America! 🤣 I think they should have added in a "Hypothetical" Civ for each continent, for the ones that didn't have them, in each age, rather than getting a similar Western civilization that is very generic and not very interesting. If left alone, what would an African, or North American Civ end up looking like?

[@wilcoxchar]

We've seen Siam in a screenshot. We'll probably get one more European civ for the modern age since they've typically been doing two Europeans per age, and then based on other ages the last one is probably a Middle Eastern civ, maybe Ottomans? One thing I like that they're doing this time around is the geographic balance of civs in the base game. Instead of having a third to half the civs be European, they're finally giving Europe equal treatment to the rest of the world's regions.

[@DirectorHatman]

French and Russia are already there, likely England would be the third, or Prussia since they seem to be going 1800-1900s for modern age.

[@wilcoxchar]

@@DirectorHatman There most likely is not going to be a third modern European civ. Again they've been very consistent on having a geographic balance of civs between ages. Two Americas, two Europeans, one African, one Middle Eastern, one India, one China, and two other Asia. Now in the modern age we know every one except the Middle Eastern civ.

[@johnmorris8621]

"The Greats" of Russia seem to be a perfect fit for a modern age civ with science/culture benefits. I remember the civ5 blurb talking about Russia's contributions to arts and science but we got Cossacks and Kreposts and extra resources Keep up the good work

[@ibnusyarif3431]

10:47 well,Siam is already confirm in modern age stream.

[@2gtomkins]

While it is true that traditions are special policies that can be used in later ages, they are also policies unique to their one civ. A good tradition is good to have even if unlocked only in the last age, because only your civ can choose to plug it into one of your policy slots during that age.

[@bodybagbilly]

For a game where they are heavily alluding to ending around WW2, there is no way there isn't a Germany, Russia, or Great Britain.

[@lordlubu3029]

Pretty sure the final update is gonna be about WW2 as a crisis event and the announcement of the major ally leaders

[@leonardodavinci8364]

I enjoy strategy games and have played many hours of Civ2, Civ4 and Civ6 in the past, and enjoyed them all. The biggest things for me are playability, immersion and a challenging AI, fancy graphics and UI being secondary. My feelings on Civ7 from what I’ve seen so far are: 1. I get that late game play can be tedious as winning becomes inevitable, but surely a better to prevent this is to improve the AI rather than introduce civ changes and resets with every age change. Play in the modern age in early Civs is no excuse for omitting the current age. 2. There should be more ages. Antiquity - Medieval - Exploration - Industrial (up to and including WW1) - Modern and Information. 3. If you are enforcing a civ change you need to have more realistic choices. To not have England and others that explored much of the world, as an Exploration age choice perverse as is omission from an industrial/modern age. 4. The concept of building a civilization to stand the test of time appears to be dead. 5. I have no problem with them changing game mechanics and there are some good aspects, like navigable rivers, the role of towns, removing workers, etc, but not providing enough civs to make age transition a workable and historically realistic. proposition really hits the game immersion. There should be an option to transition to something historically accurate or just stick with your original civ. if you start with Greece why could that not continue through the ages. Likewise an Ancient Britain/Saxon civ could become English and then British. 6. I would prefer leaders to be based on actual leaders, like presidents and Kings. Great people, like Ben Franklin, have their place, but as great people, not leaders of nations. I won’t be buying the game as it is, but will wait to see how it develops. For now I will stick to existing Civ versions, or just play more chess, which is still the best strategy game.

[@gusweinert4959]

Always pleasant to hear your smooth kiwi voice in a world of american accents

[@DerFreiegedanke]

The complexity seems OK for a Civ game. But i can not shake the feeling this game will release in a big and resounding meh.

[@maksskoczylas2045]

Do you think Poland will be in civ7?

[@Antonio-lt1sp]

What is really impressive is the greed and shady practices of Firaxis 2K for this game. Looking forward this game when it is fully released, fixed and 10% of the price in 2029.

[@cn6519]

Seems like 2K got to Firaxis as well, and decided to push them towards more monetization.

[@konplayz]

Buganda and Zazzau being in the game before the largest country in the world is absolutely insane

[@TheToledoTrumpton]

The ages thing is going to take a bit of getting used to, particularly until we get all the Civs. The idea that the USA are a unique "Civilization", and not just one of many extensions of an Anglo-Saxon civilization, is a bit of a mental leap for me. The idea that culturally, economically or militarily the USA as it is today would have popped into existence in North America even if the Saxons and Danes never existed, is a little bizarre, and hurts my immersion in the game. The reverse is true as well; we never get to experiment with what a modern day Persian, or Mississippian civ would look like.

[@henrybustos6974]

100k subs inc!

[@EarlGreysEmpire]

I really want a Scottish Civ, there are a crazy amount of leaders that could be used. I also think there should be an alternative British Civ. That meets both sides of 'what if Scotland didnt join the union' vs the reality

[@Kruszcontrol]

9:33 it's because they're releasing the game in an early access state with only 3 out of 4 ages complete. They obviously always intended the game to progress into the modern/future era. The game was taking so long to make someone probably just said "civ launches are always rocky and get better with DLC, just release it and finish the game with DLC later". I preordered Civ V and VI and all DLC. But those games were complete on launch and got better with DLC. I'm waiting on Civ VII to be completed before I buy it.

[@waseem8830]

What concerns me most in terms of completion is the AI, not the DLC.

[@MisterMick113]

​@@waseem8830 Civ AI has always been trash, thats why the harder difficulties give the computer more advantages

[@waseem8830]

@@MisterMick113 I remember once putting the computer on the highest difficulty option, I was excited to see the high intelligence of the AI and then I saw China replacing its old planes with new ones in just one turn and I saw France advancing scientifically quickly even though it only had one city and Germany hit me with nuclear even though it did not have any uranium field, then I realized how limited and ridiculous the game developers are. In my opinion, no matter how much they develop the AI, this game will remain stupid until Civilization 25 is released in the year 2700.

[@gabrielmartinez3684]

I want to see the unique military units and their progression trees

[@spike9927]

Looking at those tank models from the modern era (by no means am I an expert) but definitely looks like there's a t34 fighting a Sherman. T34 was a soviet union tank from WW2, so we will possibly see a USSR? 👀

[@oliverp1351]

Definitely think that Britain, Germany & Russia will be there. There's no modern Oceanic civ so maybe New Zealand/Australia/Polynesian. Also no Scandinavian civ for the modern age yet.

[@rdm3990]

I`m your subscriber since Humankind was a thing :)

[@LongLiveBoomer]

Russia with Catherine The Great was just announced

[@waseem8830]

Are we going to get a cracked version on the first day of release?☺️

[@beanmemer3944]

😅no honey😅 no. Your insane.

[@Kross415]

Last I heard the game had denuvo but they're starting to crack denuvo again as of late so maybe.

[@StayInGoodSpirits]

There will be an expansion 4 AGE, no doubt about it! You can see the planning around it and the lack of true true modern units for the sake of "story"

[@exelenttee]

This is a very strange choice for the leader and bonuses. Looks very random.

[@igorrozasgimeno5044]

All civilizations leaked a while ago. The ones still unannounced are Germany, Russia and Siam.

[@1860mahler]

England not in the modern era. Are you kidding me? Just saved about£60! Thanks ...

[@lil_slv7052]

I wish they added Alexander Hamilton as a leader for America

[@renkuria]

All leaders should have leadership roles in real life if not the president then a member of congress or a founding father ect ect, any "leader" who does not meet this standard should be removed and replaced, tubman does not meet this requirement and there are plenty of historical black leaders who do qualify and should be in that slot.

[@MiNombreEsElCamaron]

Disagree. I think it’s exciting that these civ leaders are including people of general influence and historical importance. Tubman has a unique history as an individual who took action against an oppressive government. She represents rebellion, righteousness, strength, stamina, and hard fought freedom. She’s an appropriate addition to the roster.

[@renkuria]

@@MiNombreEsElCamaron its a game about civilizations the leaders should be recognizable, i can also guarantee any mods to replace someone like tubman with say the first black congressman will be auto banned on mod io citing sexism as the reason, in fact i suspect any mods adding controversial leaders of any kind will be auto banned on mod io, they have a history of doing so while leaving mods that do the opposite untouched.

[@2gtomkins]

Well, today after this video was released, Russia and Catherine the Great were announced, so it's down to two slots left for Modern Age civs in the initial release's 10 civs. I expect them to keep promises they have made by mentioning civ names in guides and livestreams, as with Buganda and Meiji Japan, so I would be surprised if they are not in the final 10. But I don't think that Siam was promised just because its symbol appears in the HUD of leaders in one of the Modern games in that livestream. Because their release is going to be just a month after the initial release, the civs in the Deluxe edition have to be practically as developed and ready to play as the 10 released in February. Playtesting something to be released in March has to have been already in progress by the time they made the Modern Age livestream, so it would be natural for Siam to be among the civs played against by America in that livestream, if Siam is one of the Deluxe civs. I don't know what the evidence for Morocco is, but I am not aware that it has been promised for February either. While it is true that Britain and Germany haven't been promised either, I think they are better bets than Siam and Morocco.

[@DP-ym8zf]

Eh.. wake me up when the modern era atleast incorporates cold war tech and doesn't just end at WW2

[@NealOfTaylor44]

soooo hyped!!!!

[@clintcook8691]

All I know is that me and my bro are gonna try and play this launch day.

[@PahaLukki]

I never got to Civ VI, I think V is actually good, and III and IV also. This looks more promising than CIV VI, but we shall see.. I didn't like the districts in VI.

[@TheHeirdryer]

Looks really good, but will probably wait a few years for Ultimate Edition?

[@beanmemer3944]

😅or don’t?😅 what do you mean wait a couple year???? By then the game is gonna be finished getting updated😅. Funny that people like you exist 😅 you just waiting “a couple years” is insane 😅

[@CPPRODUCTIONS1001]

More I see, less I am interested. I feel like they have changed the formula to much.

[@Hungary_Ball253]

Ya’ll stop crying about no Britan, if they didn’t add prussia, russia, or france and replaced it with britan then you would cry about that too

[@leonardodavinci8364]

A Cive game without England/Britain, Russia or France is a nonsense. To omit Britain that explored and colonised to create the biggest empire the world has ever seen, and lead the industrial age that created the modern world, is perverse.

[@baconboy12]

Civ 7's new features are all impressive, while nothing Cities Skylines 2 has done in the past 14 months has been impressive at all...

[@11anonymous6]

I disagree; they let malware slip through from their modding community…

[@patrick.bastiaensen]

your welcom

[@WalterBoothV]

9 hours old and russia already confirmed

[@ilyarocks6674]

Civ 7 without British, WTF

[@tritan3900]

Cool

[@MiNombreEsElCamaron]

The backlash to Tubman is absurd. Just insane.

[@SunShine-xc6dh]

You spelled 'inclusion of' wrong

[@drakenjosh187]

youtube will penalize u for saying deck?

[@peterszabo9312]

try saying it with a Kiwi accent

[@Cap45T]

swap the 'e' for an 'i' - the automatic voice recognition might mistake the word and your monetization is gone

[@drakenjosh187]

@@peterszabo9312 I'm a kiwi so it just sounds like deck lmao

[@drakenjosh187]

@Cap45T wow I can't believe they do that over the word dick, insane

[@Thamior2311]

@@Cap45T Huh? What if I want to talk about Dick Cheney?

[@danielzamora9491]

I think USSR is gonna be in the game, that guy with the hammer in the first trailer looked very soviet.

[@clearandsweet]

The Information Age as DLC has to be the worst kept, most obvious secret. Might as well just say it. I hope that instead of exoplanets/space, the science victory condition is Super-intelligent AI this time.

[@Cramblit]

Was gonna buy this, until I realized the disgusting paywall they have going on.. Besides the fact the game is agregiously priced at $70, they want me to pay $120 to get an additional 8 civilizations, and then more to get additional wonders.... F that. They'll get $0 and lose out on the $70 I would of begrudgingly given them.

[@Scipio488]

That "disgusting paywall" is called a "price". Companies that offer products and services charge a "price" to consumers as a means of recouping their investment and making a profit. If the price is more than the public is willing to pay and it is a non-essential purchase, then, over time, the market will adjust accordingly and its price will likely drop. Companies are perfectly happy to do without customers who only pay prices "grudgingly" if there are those who will pay them happily.

[@ObjectiveAnalysis]

@@Scipio488 what a patronising little clown. Jog on.

[@Antonio-lt1sp]

@@Cramblit it is more reasonable to wait a few years, when the game is fully developed and at a fraction of the price. That's what I'm going to do for the first time, and I'm playing Civ since 1995.

[@Cramblit]

@ In this situation, yes I agree.

[@superguy911]

They should make all leaders americans that immigrated from that place, because the entire world belongs to america. Einstein for Germany, Kim Kardashian for Armenia, Piker Hasan for Ottomans, etc.

[@vilestine]

Mods will get you there :D

[@schumerus6786]

Einstein as a leader makes no sense, Kim will be leader in “CIV XXI Modern Influencers”. The entire world does not belong to the US, but I can see a Future Civ leader for the next era with the “Delusion of Grandeur” tradition for the US which would trade negative culture for additional production and growth.

[@josdelijster4505]

To many french people in this game.. i regret Pp

[@Hungary_Ball253]

You dare use that slur?

[@brutalusgaming8809]

I have a friend that has played every Civ game for his entire life that is so upset about all these non leader leaders that he is not going to buy this one. A little silly imo as they are just animated faces on the stats but there it is.

[@Kross415]

Different people find different value on different things, specially if they expected something to stay the same within the franchise they love/d, might sound extreme to some people but I completely understand it.

[@mitre6923]

Well if you reduce it to that, why bother buying it? It’s all just a bunch of pixels on a screen.

[@HeyMyNameIs...]

My biggest problem is not having a modern era...

[@waseem8830]

??? There should be a modern era

[@cheesyramen66]

@@waseem8830there’s a modern era but it seemingly cuts off around 1950. I expect we’ll see an Information Age that plays at least up to present day if not past it.

[@mishmohd]

Are you a ozzy? A canga?

[@JumboPixel]

Close with Ozzy, but no cigar

[@tritan3900]

@@JumboPixelA kiwi?

[@mishmohd]

The cradle of civilization is nowhere to be found

[@MathsGameArt]

what are you referring to exactly?

[@mishmohd]

@@MathsGameArt the antiquity age is not that antiquated imo. Humankind captured it better

[@brianbrunt3636]

Still far too expensive and have they fixed Civ 5 yet ?

[@oleksandrshymanskyi1129]

"russian hardware" You do realize that USSR was more than just "russia", right?

[@ObjectiveAnalysis]

Why are you so triggered

[@konplayz]

when its bad stuff the ussr did it was only russia, when it is good stuff it was everyone.

[@oleksandrshymanskyi1129]

@@ObjectiveAnalysis because the problem I talk about falls in line with the propaganda narrative of a genocidal fascist regime that invaded my country?

[@orianna1220]

Welcome to the new paradox interactive payment model boys. You want a feature complete game like the old days nope, your going to get a base game of pure garbonzo beans then have 7, 30$ dlcs over the next 4 years. This is disgusting and as a massive civ fanatic since watching my uncle play civ 1 to me grabbing the controls by 3 and being grown by 5 to seeing the payment model being broken up into less content but more money. I dont get how people just say ok new civ great to me this is an utter failure and will just not be involved with such business practices. I got my 2000 hours out of the old ones time to move on in hopes another studio takes on the mantle of actually delivering gameplay instead of milking players fanbase of for money. Shame on sid, classic you either die young a hero or grow old and become the villian.

[@brandonc2860]

Harriet Tubman is really cool, actually

[@PatGunn]

Don't buy this game if it has Denuvo.

[@petrlnovak]

...recycled old stuff once again, wp Jumbo