CJ Alexander opens up on World Record Buck & Poaching Investigation | Hunters Advantage Podcast

[@HUNTERSADVANTAGE]

CJ Alexander Indicted on 23 Criminal Charges - We discuss it all on this new podcast episode: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXrTiYWhpceFo7csi=dlYzwaunGp1gUFK_

[@riverkatspeaks1827]

Why is that video private?

[@MakinBacoNaked]

Video is still private!

[@jasonlarsen5739]

Gave it all to God.... guilty as fvck

[@williamday1834]

Guilty on 14!

[@jeffrey4869]

You guys did a good job asking the right questions! I hope this young man comes out on top of this utter mess.

[@Dream-season]

…….. he didn’t.

[@raprock5000]

He flunked the deer hunt .

[@hueginvieny7959]

Doesn't look good for him. Just watch a video of his indictments and the evidence against him is more than a grudge

[@raprock5000]

@@hueginvieny7959 What was the title of it ? I'd like to check it out. Thanks

[@hueginvieny7959]

@raprock5000 kzbin.info/www/bejne/joSzg4ijo9lgj9Usi=Fy2GezpvWj8X4vV4 deer iq is the channel . They have video evidence, and he was caught taking 8 point on the same property and was caught red-handed, moving the deer to his sisters property

[@Bamapride1000]

Let me solve this case for you. He killed a deer that the DA was hunting and because the DA didn’t kill it he was pissed. The young man should sue the game wardens for confiscating the deers cape and antlers essentially telling him he was guilty now prove his innocence basically turning the justice system all the way around on him.

[@ByLeb]

i’m with you on that exactly.

[@wijoey710]

His story changed again

[@kylebell850]

Nailed it

[@cjalexander6801]

@@wijoey710how did my story change 😆😆😂🤣🤣😂 it’s the same thing I’ve said 5-8 times maybe summarized more but definitely the same lmao

[@timjustus7831]

I don’t no much about hunting and this is probaly a dumb question but what does DA stand for? When your referring to hunting on the DA property?

[@Bo-Huntr]

Sounds like hes waiting to find out if he is innocent just as much as we are. 😂

[@RackAndRidge]

Lol, 100%

[@chrisgiller2050]

People forget about the Michael Waddell. When he killed that buck with the collar and the deer lived nine and a half miles in a safe area where there's no hunting to where he killed it on his property

[@Deerslayer369]

I was just telling my boss about this.

[@Dougarrowhead]

The deer waffle killed was living on the nature preserve that bordered his property.

[@raprock5000]

@@Dougarrowhead Oh really ? 😃

[@Dougarrowhead]

@@raprock5000 yep he says that on the episode of realtree monster bucks when he shoots it.

[@raprock5000]

@@Dougarrowhead Oh okay I seen that years ago on TV but it's been a while. Thanks for the response. 👍🏼

[@COCOCALINUT]

A friend made a bad bow shot on a buck years ago. He gave the buck a couple hours and found some blood. I met him with 1 of my dogs we ended up finding the buck 5 hrs later and over 9 miles from where he shot it..

[@inthewoods3237]

Dang almost 2 miles an hour! And a whole lot of trespassing!

[@wallacerose7499]

you Know that Nimrod !

[@stephensheldon8396]

BS

[@aaronweigold9824]

Glad to hear this from you CJ ! Definitely on your team brother !

[@kylemartinson722]

That didn't age well

[@glennl9630]

Still on his team😂😂😂😂

[@abegraber6504]

Still on his team? He pleaded guilty yesterday 🤬

[@MsDonkstar]

Oooofff

[@wadegaffney9104]

Being that I am not on social media and don't post pictures of any kind up until hearing this podcast I may not have taken pictures of the deer right away either. Everyone is so caught up sharing memories with everyone else and completely forget to share them with themselves.

[@eyanarant]

For real people need to live in the moment. Nowadays people live in the phone 😭

[@RichValentine1972]

I wish people could just be happy for other people. I blame the hunting industry as a whole for the jealousy. The average hunter is being priced out, if you’re not a ( sponsored pro hunter ) that shoots a monster like this Buck, Jonny King , Hanson, or anything like these. You don’t get a fair shake. And I completely agree that politics in hunting is ruining hunting. I hope everything works out for this young man.

[@Elonzo-k2y]

A pro hunting?More like untitled.I would like to see one hunt the state land I hunt.They would go home crying.

[@raprock5000]

Well it definitely didn't work out 😬

[@raprock5000]

@@Elonzo-k2y 🍼

[@Pennebaker1]

Rich I think you might’ve been just trying to virtue signal to an idiot with a poaching record here

[@jakemitchell1671]

This comment didn't age very well.

[@eddieslater355]

I want to say, i don't believe him at all. The first red flag is the not taking your phone into the woods with you. Now maybe he forgot it. So he gut shoots it, finds it the next day in daylight and doesn't take pictures. The first thing you would do is take a picture or a video of where the deer lays IN DAYLIGHT. In the pictures the deer looks like it just died. Any real hunter knows what a gut shot deer looks like when you find it the next day. Unless it literally just died, it doesn't look Iike that. It is stiff and looks horrible. Now it sounds like he went out in the morning after he shot it. But gives no time when they found it.. They looked for it for a short time and it stayed on the property that he shot it on (which went from 30 acres to 10 acres how do you go from 10 to 30). After saying it was probably on the neighbors. My question is what time did he find it the next day and what was the time in between he took pictures. Also, saw the deer at 120 and pinned it. How, you didn't have your cell phone. Then the buck came to 60 yards, turn around and went back up the way he came and then was at 7 or 8 yards. Also where in the guts did you hit it.. Never said. Also no pictures that i can find of where he shot it on the deer. Said it was a complete pass through. Also IF I COME OUT GOOD ON THIS. Who says that if they are innocent. So now there is one picture and only one picture in daylight. So you took one in the daylight of him laying on the ground, but that's it. This stinks to high heaven. So watching this video while writing. So he says he shot it at 5:30 on the 9th, figures it died around 5:30am on the 10th. Found it 6 or 7 hours later. So let's say 12:00pm. Then you didn't take a picture of the deer until 6 hours later. Now come on, it is November not January, meaning. What do you have to do with a gut shot deer in November. Get it gutted, them skin it immediately. Also like i said his story on the rigamortis, it doesn't work that way. Also look at its eyes in the picture. Look how they reflected 12 hours after its dead. That deer just died. Not over 12 hours being dead. In my opinion he definitely shot this deer illegally.

[@cjalexander6801]

Good thing your opinion don’t mean dick lol

[@chrisvaught9531]

@@cjalexander6801 He gives all the credit to god. Logic too.

[@ajbabineau007]

Maybe one day I'll care enough to power though.... but someone needs to put a battery in that smoke detector If I'm gonna watch any more of this lol

[@jeffporter100]

So funny. I have one that does this also and didn’t even notice 🤷🏼

[@Liftedblazer1988]

@@jeffporter100 17:45 17:46 t 17:46 t 17:55 ttt 18:02 18:09 tt 18:14 18:20 18:20 t 18:24 18:24 t 18:30 18:30 o ź

[@chrisgiller2050]

U guys came out and trashed this man now your acting like u didn't do that tale he has hes chance in Cort. U guys are as bad as the rest of them .

[@williamsmith3960]

You’re exactly right they were the first ones to throw him under the bus I wouldn’t even talk to either of them saying he was guilty and the only thing he should do was to find Jesus and should get jail time and a massive fine

[@melvinavis8070]

Indicted on 23 counts, plus his friends and sister got some too. His story was so full of holes, each time he told it changed

[@raprock5000]

@@melvinavis8070 justice for a wasted trophy for someone. 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@joshwills3997]

I just said the same thing and there bes response was "you have a picture less profile"

[@marlinshirk3803]

I hear you say a if big buck like this is poached the shooter should go to jail and be fined big time and lose hunting privileges for years and I agree with that. But I think it should be the same for a doe or a button buck. Size of rack should have absolutely no bearing on it.

[@joshshopetheurbanoutdoorsm6775]

I believe CJ but it’s hard to believe someone that doesn’t change the battery in their smoke alarm and it beeps throughout an entire 2 hour podcast 😂😂😂

[@nooneatall14]

I didn't even notice it until you said it . Maybe I'm a bleep too 😅

[@MrThenry1988]

Lol.

[@quinncampbell9253]

Bro I was just fucking running through my whole upstairs listening for shit. Thought I was tweaking! Glad I found this comment lol

[@kenified06]

Mine been beeping for 2 years

[@brianc3351]

“I have an iPhone 13pro max” “I didn’t take any pictures”

[@joeweber3807]

I had a buck on my property 160 inch it traved 14 miles was shot by a dude he posted in Wisconsin hunting and I sent him trail cam pics of it

[@jasonbarnes3188]

This is exactly why I have never had a deer scored and never will. I have killed some nice bucks, nothing even close to being world class. But if I ever do I will not allow it to be scored. The idea of someone calling his self an antler collector, and asking to buy my rack would piss me off. My deer are worth more than any amount of money to me. I hunt for enjoyment and food. And could care a less, what anyone thinks of what I decide to put my tag on. All this makes me hate the “hunting industry” and the laws that are in place and the folks who enforce them. Even more than I already did.

[@briargoatkilla]

AMEN.

[@RobertBay-gy7ed]

I think your both full of shit. If someone offered you 150000 dollars and you don’t take it. Then you obviously have a lot of money. You are high off your ass

[@HOTROCKET83]

Congratulations on a true buck of a lifetime CJ...Screw all the haters! Keep your head up and proving the truth!

[@Dream-season]

This didn’t age well

[@duckman5849]

screw the haters? this didn't age well at all.

[@jmichael-e5j]

You can tell he was making that story up as he goes . Sickening 😤

[@donaldvonlintig8445]

Like I said in my first post, I love C.J's respect & love for his Dad , who was a detective ! He must have been brought up right. God-Bless Him & his family, and the A-Hole Ohio Fish & Game better GIVE HIM HIS BUCK BACK, A.S.A.P and end this B.S !!!

[@Ewing_13]

Ouufff. This didn't age well.

[@duckman5849]

well now that a little more evidence has came out I can see why they confiscated it. It appears he did poach it

[@jakemitchell1671]

Ouch. Clearly he was NOT raised right.

[@T-Mak-s7x]

It’s such a trip to rewatch this interview. Absolutely mind blowing. CJ maybe can tell the real story once he’s out of jail to help pay his $44,000 fine.

[@matthewb3640]

So I just watched a KZbin on a guy taking down a high drop tine buck. Following from determining where this buck traveled and getting permission on property to hunt this drop tine. This buck traveled over 4 miles away in any given day. If I'm correct he finally shot it on a 4 or 5 acre piece of property that homeless people would travel thru !

[@MrThenry1988]

Morning hunt on a gun season deer drive. Our group shot a buck that was 8 miles away from where we jumped it. We jumped it at first light. It was killed at that distance just after lunch.

[@ChrisKimbro-k7z]

His replies to comments just make me think this guy is full of it. I don't know if he poached the deer or not, but this guy is shady.

[@Tahmas_01]

Ya parts of his story telling where he fills in the story with stuff that doesn't pertain to the actual story at all.

[@ChadAlanJones]

I sure hope this was a legal deal! The hunting community doesn’t need anymore poaching cases!

[@GroveWoodFarms]

It wasn't

[@KyleC0430]

I love how if he had a taken a 150” buck no one would be batting an eye but lord forbid some record book buck of any kind !, they are gonna come for you!

[@cjalexander6801]

They gotta get that credit man it’s all about money sadly not right or wrong

[@KyleC0430]

@@cjalexander6801 yes I agree!!

[@daltonmichek2486]

How do we watch the private video from the follow up?

[@upnorthoutdoors989]

The chirping ceiling bird lol...perfect.

[@andrewjames8980]

Lost all credibility when I heard it

[@upnorthoutdoors989]

@@andrewjames8980 Yep, good call.

[@kyletyson8129]

That's the vibe I got too

[@cjalexander6801]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 I will give y’all this one😆

[@chrisgiller2050]

Hes story never changes . He seems to be honest. And we will see how it gose.

[@wallstreetbets9814]

@@chrisgiller2050 this didn't age well

[@basserbestt4063]

I’m very invested in this whole ordeal because I want it to be an honest harvest. I know CJ doesn’t have the best personality but he is very consistent. I think he clears up a lot of controversy. I have deer where I don’t think to take photos right away, mostly because my friends just aren’t interested. In the other podcast he said he didn’t have Facebook or anything like that, which tells me he doesn’t have many friends before this harvest. He also doesn’t have prior photos of other deer on his socials so he probably doesn’t care to share them as much as a modern hunter. He knew about meta data and wasn’t bothered by the fact that they wouldn’t find anything in his phone. Most investigators use a cellbrite to retrieve any deleted data from a phone. I think whoever is investigating this is reaching. The thing that bothers me the most is the forfeiture of the phone and deer. I’m not saying this will happen but who’s to say they won’t contaminate evidence in their favor. Any good defense attorney will have this case tossed, guilty or not. A “stick, two knifes, and a backpack”. Screams explicit bias, and we as a hunting community are not helping with that. Trying not to be jaded about this, good luck regardless of the verdict. Another thing to touch on is about half of all fawns are twins. Example even if they proved the blood in those knifes to be related they would have a tough time proving it. the sheds found 5 years earlier clearly are the same genetics again hope he has a good defense attorney.

[@Minnesotawhitetails]

He reinstated his Facebook after

[@Minnesotawhitetails]

And the jackass didn’t even have his phone with??? How suspicious is that.

[@melvinavis8070]

He was burning it up on the 1st HUNTR pocast😂

[@jaseschellinger9240]

Who keeps banging s marks a lot on the table over and over and over? Geez

[@wildgus1234]

You're a great dad CJ keeping your cool while you're child is present 🙏🙏🙏

[@T-Mak-s7x]

At the 42:37 & at the 1:12:45 mark, CJ says who’s to say that buck didn’t travel 10 miles. CJ should have said: THEN HE DID TRAVEL 10 MILES!

[@TheNormalOutdoors]

Why did you edit this at 13:08 when talking about Don Higgins?

[@shawnstewart4920]

ODNR needs to step up and put this case to rest immediately! Two months of ongoing investigation with no clear-cut evidence of any wrongdoing is ridiculous. Let the hunter be in peace without judgment. I am not necessarily a person who believes in lawsuits to just gain money. In this case, when CJ is proven innocent, I would definitely file a BIG lawsuit for slander against State and anyone involved that was against him in this case. Shame on everyone who passes wrongful judgment on someone based on your worthless opinions. Best of luck going forward, CJ I personally am pulling for you. I also expect more records to come from the state of Ohio in the near future!

[@matthewboettcher1932]

Just curious where there is slander from the state?

[@shawnstewart4920]

@matthewboettcher1932 The second they confiscated his deer and his belongings, it started a whirlwind of slander/dragging his name through the mud from a number of different media outlets! It all occurred from they decided to take his property without proper evidence. Falsely accusing him of any wrong doing

[@matthewboettcher1932]

@@shawnstewart4920 Im not taking sides either way. Not enough information to say one way or the other. As far as them taking property that's part of an investigation. Could be good or could be bad. I personally have not heard the state accuse him of anything. The state is not liable for slander from others. A lot of these comments are emotion driven, not really factual. I hope it gets cleared up soon and CJ can enjoy his trophy.

[@seanhoop5148]

He comes out in the clear and right. He needs to sue every single person involved in it and see about hunter herassment charger being filed on every one of them.

[@jason6325]

Dam right. People make me sick. Messing with this youngster because he's not wearing thousands of dollars of camo and flaunting it all over the place and he borrowed some gear. I hope he sues the shit out of the game wardens and the people who made these Auquasations against him

[@williamsmith3960]

He better start with those 2 podcasters hunting advantage they were the first ones to throw him under the bus saying he needed Jesus and should do major jail time and fines and no way deer traveled that far everyone should boycott these 2 and ruin their reputation. Go back and watch podcast on Rompola buck same thing here saying had to be a fake having guest on who had the same opinion as them Karma’s a bitch and it’s going to bite them in the ass

[@Pennebaker1]

@@jason6325how did this foot licking comment turn out for you

[@wallstreetbets9814]

@@seanhoop5148 this didn't age well

[@wallstreetbets9814]

@@JesseChambers-lr7uv these people were fools to believe that punk

[@jbowbassin]

My question is why would anyone ever want to harvest a big buck knowing that when a big buck is killed it’s automatically guilty until proven innocent in the game wardens eyes. I’ve seen in here local and elsewhere in the US. It’s ridiculous when the outdoorsmen can’t trust OUR law enforcement that’s suppose to have our back and uphold the law.

[@brockpeck7073]

Hes smart. He didnt take his phone the day he killed it. And didnt take any pictures of the deer from his phone. I feel like he thought ahead on it.

[@texashunter]

Yep geo tracking…

[@daveyboy8907]

Yep its hard to prove now..

[@cman504]

So he knew he would kill the deer that day and purposely left his phone at home. Because the deer was staked in place and could not move. LMAO.

[@brockpeck7073]

@@cman504 who doesnt take there phone hunting. Incase you get hurt, to pass the time away in stand, onx . It's just fishy he didn't

[@brockpeck7073]

@@cman504 he said he sat all day. And didn't take his phone . Yeah okay

[@garrettgiddens2825]

His story has improved because of everyone pointing out the holes and just straight up ridiculous shit he said on HUNTR. Of course he’s going to go on another podcast and try to fill those holes in. Would love to have been a fly on the wall when him and his buddy left from the Huntr podcast and what their conversation was like, or after they walked out and see the reaction from the HUNTR podcast guys after they witnessed that shit show in person 😂

[@Nobody-c6g]

Definitely no jealousy from those clowns on that other podcast you mentioned. Clown.

[@cman504]

So if the DNR found what they say are CJ's knives, then those knives must have CJ's fingerprints all over them, right?

[@Nobody-c6g]

Story is a simple and timeless one…jealousy. It’s funny, we Hunter’s represent such a minuscule part of the overall population…true trophy hunters smaller still. Yet, with every big deer that’s killed, there is a scandal. It’s actually comical if you get it. From a mathematical standpoint, almost literally, no one cares…save this small fraction of marginalized guys here. Our sport is under siege. Our way of like is under siege everywhere, every day…and this is what we spend our time on. I’m glad I’m not a young guy starting out. As much as I love for this sport…I’d encourage them to find something else. For this and myriad other reasons, I do not think hunting is long for this world…at least as we know it.

[@guagesteele2897]

Sounds like you have all kinds of SDE going on bruh. Get over your small weenie and watch the Barbie movie a few more times.

[@americanagothic7851]

I have no idea what happened here. All I know is that’s a nice buck. But he did do a couple different pods and his story has changed. I’m not the judge or jury. I’m not judging. It doesn’t mean it’s not legal but it doesn’t look good either. I hope it’s legal.

[@ajbrown3707]

Found guilty 30k in fines and a ton of citations 😅

[@keithrothstein2517]

Can someone make a replay to the video the way the story was told so we can laugh at how dumb this would look in today's age..... dropped off by wife, with buddy's climber stand ive never used before and his crossbow never used before, no cell phone, .... sounding like a not very serious hunter.... but we sit all day for the hunt to show our dedication to the sport.... i somehow think 10 acres of land is 30 but i shot the deer at 6 yards.... ok ok as long as i get to measure lol😅... the recovery process is funny too me, 100 percent your video taping, we all have phones, the rig comment was over the top ridiculous... honestly any educated hunter that's serious about this, doesn't believe you one but. You don't get lucky in these types of bucks, deer drives possible... definitely not just hearing a noise behind you and ranging it at 100 yards? Just don't think this story seemed legit at all....

[@RobertBay-gy7ed]

I felt the same way. I knew he was full of shit

[@ifn30]

I have my doubts. This deer traveled approximately 12 miles ( as the crow flies) passed over 50 houses/properties, through and around a state park and lake, just to leave the area where it grew up a giant and had all the does and food it wanted. Meanwhile no one got a single picture of the deer on its trek. There is hardly any properties these days not being hunted or that doesnt have trail cams running. Dont get me wrong, i know deer travel but that distance is absurd. Pull it up on the map. Not to mention all the other red flags.

[@Jamesreece762]

That distance isn’t obsurd..

[@cman504]

Not many pictures of this deer on the property where you say it supposedly grew up. Where are the pictures from last year, the year before, and before that? There'd be dozens of pictures on that property.

[@ralphbennett6698]

Not saying the kids lying but there's a ton of "Things that just don't occur for $1000 Alex"

[@riverrat7055]

I just spent 10 minutes collecting all my smoke alarms to find the chirp.

[@matthewgentile5195]

Please change the battery in your fire alarm!

[@progradepainting3755]

Are you autistic or something, where you get distracted by stupid little things?

[@briargoatkilla]

Dude's got a great illegal search and seizure case. That alone could end up making him more money than anything else. He needs to get a better lawyer and get serious about defending his rights.

[@PBAdventures146]

In the end he may be able to buy his own raven crossbow.. maybe 10 of them.. instead of borrowing one. 😂

[@tfelich19]

He'll have zero problem getting a lawyer to take this case. ODNR would be wise to drop this quick.

[@cjalexander6801]

@@tfelich19me and my buddy both have very very good lawyers and to the comment above I’m good on the crossbows lol

[@scottellis8964]

@@PBAdventures146Fk Raven ! They’re against hunters and it’s all about their agenda and pushing laws to make money off ppl who buys their junk !

[@scottellis8964]

@@cjalexander6801You got this bro ! Envy will not win in the end 💪🏽

[@MichiganPublic]

I’ll admit it I’ve been speculating myself. Let me apologize Cj, I appreciate you coming out in the public. Being a Michigander, I’m still waiting for Mitch to clear his name publicly. If nothing else atleast the young hunters of Ohio know where you stand. Good luck to you sir!

[@79TEOG]

The rompola buck is a different case, not accused of poaching it accused its fake. I want to believe rompola but go look at the pics of some of his bucks you can clearly tell they are fake or modified

[@jasonsimmons9146]

​@@79TEOGwhich ones do you believe to be modified?

[@MichiganPublic]

The full recovery video just came out the things real

[@RyanL88827]

I believe he’s telling 90% of the truth. I just don’t believe he shot he where he said he did. Too many coincidences.Doesn’t start searching until 10-11am, doesn’t bring his phone on an all day hunt, doesn’t take a single daylight photo, and he seems to be an expert on Meta data and location services.

[@glennl9630]

Update he's screwed

[@rjhammonds7440]

@@glennl9630what happened??

[@glennl9630]

​@rjhammonds7440 look it up multiple charges for him and his crew like moving guts from kill spot to his family's land. Looking back at this Video gets me sick on his lies

[@RyanL88827]

@@glennl9630 I’ve spent an embarrassing amount of hours trying to find court docs. I heard a guy on tic toc has it, but I don’t have tic toc. I also spent a lot of time looking at aerial photos of his sisters property. From his his interview he could only possibly be in one spot, I knew immediately and posted that it was absolutely impossible for the story to unfold the way he told it

[@whiskerbiscuit99]

Dude just plead guilty.......... hes ruined....

[@stephencanter8947]

I dont believe him. The way he answered some questions at one point he said "IF I come out good on this...." if i legally killed that buck I would be absolutely pissed about this situation and would be saying "WHEN i come out good on this...." he keeps leading on a little bit that theres a chance he could be guilty in this. If he killed this buck legally then i would eliminate any doubt or chance of being found guilty. He seems to be amused about the situation, i would be pissed and let my frustration be known by the state if i killed it legally. He seems to have the demeanor of catch me if you can and if you do i dont care.

[@chrisvaught9531]

Exactly, catch me if you can. Meanwhile pass me that pipe.I put $5 on the crack fool!

[@daveyboy8907]

Yep its so obvious

[@keithrothstein2517]

I'm glad someone else can see narcissistic behavior

[@wildgus1234]

I hope u end up suing the fk out of the state for lost revenue, fk them make them pay brother 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@capthollis]

Totally agreee

[@stevesuder916]

Plead guilty yesterday. Throw the book at hime.

[@joellape6494]

Watching this podcast after this dude plead guilty is so comical. I agree, throw the book at him!

[@Theragecheaterlolz]

This dude even LOOKS like a poacher. lol Like cmon man, The story is shit. What a true definition of a IDIOT

[@jrcriddle7253]

He sounded sketchy as shit on the first podcast i saw.

[@Theragecheaterlolz]

@@jrcriddle7253 no kidding. I looked at the street view of the property he was " hunting on " no way in hell that deer lived in those parts. lmfao. No way possible.

[@Bobbybarley1978]

Let the boy be nobody perfect

[@bobmullner5337]

All I see is a real nervous person on this podcast

[@cjalexander6801]

It’s called anxiety you be recorded for thousands of people to see bet you don’t fair to well lol

[@progradepainting3755]

All I see, is another keyboard warrior, talking shit behind said keyboard.

[@ThicketThunder]

Bucks travel alot more than folks think...summer range and rut range may be miles apart..5 to 10 miles is base but i have seen deer travel over 10 miles during rut..

[@craigcarmoney]

I’m with CJ on this one.

[@easternoakstaxidermyoutfit7817]

Just watching this and knowing my experiences and what ive went thru it makes me sick to my stomach. Not only doe he need to get his deer and cape back ASAP and go his way but he needs to sue the state of Ohio and sue the DA dude and wardens period !

[@RJ-wr8db]

I listened to his original podcast on HUNTR and this one. He is much more descriptive now. Only my opinion, but I think he shot it legit, but I think he retrieved it off of the neighbors property. Originally said his sisters land was 30 acres, now admits it is only about 8 acres. If he gut shot that buck it is not likely that is stayed on that 8 acre piece especially if he had to remove a climber. Very noisy and if likely to jump the deer in a small 8 acre piece. I think he saw it go on the neighbors after he shot it - remember he said you could see right through the tree line to the ag field - and then he and his buddy went and got it after dark. The biggest red flag is that he did not take any pics when they recovered it. That to me is HUGE. The first thing every hunter I know does is take photos to capture the hunt and the deer. I cannot remember the last time I shot a big buck and did not take photos of where it fell. And especially something this huge. I would also like to know where the gut pile is. I assume if it did go on the neighbors, they were smart enough to drag it back before they gutted it. But then why the DNR issue with the knives. Finally, I think the DNR is trying to "make their case" any way they can. Hope is is all legit, but no pics when they supposedly found it in the late morning is really suspicious. Plus as other said, he does not interview well - kind of acts like a know it all.

[@71chevelle34]

Says he doesn't care about the score he scored it and had it green scored twice all in within 11 days. Says he doesn't care about the money then ask $100,000 for the rack. Then he says he doesn't care about the fame he's been on 3 podcast and North American Whitetail and some other big name telling his story. Looks like he was seeking fame to me. He said he can tell you how big a buck's rack is but can't tell the difference between 10 acers and 30 acers. He might be telling the truth. But something is fishy.

[@daveyboy8907]

It's obvious what happened.Shady ass dude.

[@briandixon-pg1ud]

Sounds strange to me the guy can buy $1000 i phone but doesnt have the money to buy a decent bow or treestand.Also your going to retrieve your deer of 20 lifetimes the next day with your phone in your pocket and not take one photo with the deer....bs! Maybe if your 75 yrs old not tweny something!

[@trophyhusbanddiaries2805]

the phones cost 25 a month on payments and are vital to modern life this boomer argument is dumb

[@mrdrunk9733]

Apparently has finally decided to buy an expensive phone I know he said he changes #s alot I assumed he bought cheap phones like me lol

[@amhouston2520]

They daylight picture. 51:27 has a totally different ground then all the other picures online. Leaves and little to no grass. All the other pics from night time have very tall green grass and no leaves. I know people move the animal for better photo ops but did he ever say that? If so why did he drag it back into what looks like another kill area. Why aren't all the pictures at dark in a manicured yard truck bed or post. The leaves in the day and all others at night are pretty dang suspect.

[@richardbritt3611]

He IS innocent until proven guilty!

[@mcw-lg2dm]

The fact the deer was being pursued by the DA tells a lot. They're trying to bend it every way to Sunday to make him guilty, not trying to find the truth

[@raprock5000]

@@mcw-lg2dm how do you know that for sure? Maybe they just want to be sure the record book status that goes along with this deer is 100% legitimate. I would think most hunters would want that. Whenever you go to these deer hunting shows or seminars and see those deer on the wall of shame that is pretty sickening as well. 👍🏼🇺🇲

[@mcw-lg2dm]

@@raprock5000 For sure, but it seems like law enforcement is doing it totally backwards. Treating it as if he's automatically guilty and his burden to prove innocence. They had his phone, every message, call, photo and location so it would probably be apparent if he poached it. Not to mention all the security cams in the area he allegedly poached it in. And how they were trying to get him for trespassing on his family property just because it wasn't in writing seems like they're reaching

[@raprock5000]

@@mcw-lg2dm Yeah I thought that permission on relatives land deal was very weak to start with unless for some reason they didn't want him hunting there, idk. I thought they must of had something more than that but it sure seems to be taking a long time.

[@mcw-lg2dm]

@@raprock5000 They may know more than what has been said, just seemed like they didn't. Hopefully everything ends up being legit

[@wildgus1234]

Proud of u young man, nice buck and congrats 👏👏👏👏👏 God wins in the end🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@ShawnKlinker]

For me if he poached this deer he wouldn’t be sharing his story with the entire world. There are some questionable things that happened but he answered them. Just because you would’ve taken a bunch of daytime recovery photos and shared them doesn’t mean everyone else has too. One thing I’m taking away from all this is if I ever get a giant I’m not sharing or having it scored.

[@SHAMMYsSPOT]

Turns out...he is "a big enough dumb ass to poach that deer, and go do all those podcast!" His words...not mine!😂

[@toddhatten354]

Guy's I'm a 60 year old hunter. From the deep south. In those 60 years I've witnessed a lot in the hunting community. I hate to say it but a lot of it left me disappointed in my fellow hunters. I know what I just listened to was only one side of the story but I believe CJ. A lot of it is because he seemed so straight forward and was willing to talk about with y'all. But that's not really what made me believe him. The stick and the two knives doesn't make sense. If CJ is so smart to pull this off how would he make a mistake like leaving that kind of evidence behind. Also why two knives? I'm guessing the second knife would have belonged to his buddy. So not one but two guys lost their knives? Also a DA would know how to plant evidence. I think the buck was probably from the DA's property or at least spent some time there and he's just jealous that someone else killed what he considered to be "his" deer. You guy's did a good job on this podcast and gained some respect from me for the way you handled it. I will subscribe so keep up the good work.

[@Leif1963]

Show me two knives that don't have some kind of fingerprint evidence. If after this amount of time there was no smoking gun evidence on the phones or the "knives" or trial cams or witnesses then I smell a government rat. If after 60 days they haven't come up with enough evidence to arrest- it looks a failed investigation with the state trying real hard to get its behind out of a sling. God will sort it out one way or another. What do I have to lose by believing CJ?

[@jakemitchell1671]

Sorry you believed him.

[@WrestlerMichael]

Awesome deer CJ, condgrads and I hope you get your rack back soon.

[@daveyboy8907]

It was never his.

[@POWERQUEST123]

He will never get it back, he had no hunting license

[@shawnkane7152]

1:25:25 this is the oldest scare tactic in the book. Claiming that they have concrete evidence somewhere to try and get a reaction from the culprit/suspect. The law can say anything that they want to.🦌🇺🇸🙏

[@bpwhitetails]

great interview, first time finding your channel. Subscribed!

[@billmcdowell4826]

The way society today is CJ. Even when you're found innocent. There will still be those with negative thoughts.

[@Ewing_13]

Or when he gets charged with 23 counts of being a grade A piece of shit.

[@brutalnature5481]

You guys did a great job of telling it like it is and not letting him talk around the hard questions. I saw that doubt in your eyes as he told the story. Look up the property he claims and it’s obviously not ever been possible.

[@maxcole3930]

One hell of a buck, congrats! Screw everyone thats questioning you. Their jealous!

[@PlumbingArkansas]

I hunt northeast Arkansas and the very first hunt I had of the year was in November, I had borrowed a stand, got in it late, busted a deer out on way in, everything was going wrong. My ass hits the seat and I hear a deer walking. Comes straight out in front of me broadside 15 yards. Biggest buck I’ve seen on the hoof. Too shocked to shoot honestly and didn’t think I could draw without him seeing me so I didn’t want to spook him out in hopes he’d come back. But still. Sometimes shit goes wrong and you get lucky or whatever you want to call it. And the opportunity to hunt just came up because I had gotten permission on a place. So I was in a hurry to get to hunting and I’m pretty sure I not only forgot my phone that morning because I was hyped about getting to hunt, but I forgot some pieces of gear. You can believe this guys story if you’re a fella who has his same luck lol. Sure some of it cast doubt, but it’s definitely not impossible. That being said, something just comes across as fishy with this guy. It definitely seems like it’s not 100 percent up to snuff.

[@JHCantrell]

Not casting any shade….but if I had to find a few things that seem if’y it’d be ….he apparently checked the deer in on his Mom’s phone. No biggie, but still seems odd. The DNR called her because that was the number on the app, she gave them his # because he changes #’s all the time? Quote “CJ” CJ has a iPhone 13 he mentions. Phone takes awesome pictures we all know. Doesn’t snap one pic to send to anyone!! Not even his dad, the one that suggested he go hunt the property! No photos to his brother, fiancé, sister, mother, buds, no-one!!

[@cjalexander6801]

Never said I checked the deer in on my moms phone I said her number is my listed number for my hunting license because she’s had the same number for 15 years where as I’ve had 12-13 numbers in the past 10 years

[@KyleC0430]

@@cjalexander6801right on brother! 👨🏿

[@dweaver531]

Same thoughts, hope it’s legit, but can’t for the life of me understand how there isn’t 100+ daytime pics of when he walked up on the deer.

[@anthonydestefano2014]

@@cjalexander6801dude did you take any day time pictures of the buck? I think that right there would support your case. At any rate congrats on a Monster Buck. Hope it all works out for you.

[@cjalexander6801]

@@anthonydestefano2014 there was one taken in this video they show it but what a lot of people don’t realize is my dad was in Ohio he’s super sick right now and about to have a cardiac surgery I didn’t have to send any pictures everyone I wanted to see right then and there seen it that day I wanted to live In the moment and there’s no law stating I can’t do that unfortunately everyone doesn’t seem to agree but I’ll be right In the end

[@ralphdeniscojr6198]

Hey guys Thanks for the podcast enjoyed it. I been bowhunter 60 yrs and If I had the chance to harvest a buck like that I would keep it to myself my reason is because I hunt for me and except for my close friends and family no one needs to know. I feel it tarnishes the animals existence by going for a record or making money off its life and I know it would have been harvested legally and If anyone tried to prove me wrong It would really discussed me. And like I said originally I dont hunt for anyone but myself and dont want my credibility challenged just for recognition. I hope they get to the bottom of the true story of this buck so his life was not for nothing. Safe hunting and good luck

[@bowlingmotorsportsbowling5990]

It’s such a shame of how many people an the dnr seem to won’t it to be wrong. Congratulations to the dude and hope he wins this👉

[@Dkapparel23]

Then pleads guilty to 14 of his charges for poaching that buck, the one eye blink is know of deception

[@easternoakstaxidermyoutfit7817]

Ive hunted a buck here where i live that was 200inches for 3 seasons before disappearing . .......and the CJ buck he killed is called mineralized bone . There is 2 different types of antler bone regular bone and mineralized bone due to mineralized soil that the deer is feeding from

[@Public_land_trail_cams]

what

[@jaseast]

Definitely, easy to check with soil samples from the area the buck stayed in. However the pics of buck were less less than 20 miles away, so it may be same type soil.

[@handmethatchingadera]

I had someone break into my home steal guns. Then the police had me set up a gun sting to get them back and they abandoned me on the sting. I got some of my stolen guns back risking my life. One of the thieves gave a full confession while in jail for other charges. They investigator didn’t read rights on the confession so the DA dismissed the case. They never got the phone records or the so much as brought in the guy I got the stolen guns back from. And yet the law has gone so far over a damn deer 🦌. 🤷🏻‍♂️ what a fucked up country we live in.

[@T-Mak-s7x]

STOP the interview and tell CJ to go put some darn new batteries in his smoke detector!

[@brothercory2005]

As I listened to this whole interview I put myself in the circumstance of shooting a monster buck, I have absolutely no idea how I would react. I’m not a guy who has to post my life on social media nor do I care to have 100 pictures of me with a deer. I just want to get that mount on the wall so I can replay that story every time I see it. Money and position has an unfair advantage and I hope absolute truth comes out, not just assumptions. You need concrete evidence to give a guilty verdict.

[@fishmanweave]

Dude left his phone at home on purpose so he couldn’t be tracked later , smart man Same way with not taking pics

[@jamiejohnson1200]

Exactly

[@chrisvaught9531]

Smart if you are trying to hide something. Or he didn't have a phone until he hit the lottery.

[@cman504]

Because he knew he would shoot a monster later that day, and purposely left it at home?? Think it thru bro. The deer wasn't in a pen or tied to a tree.

[@chrisvaught9531]

@@cman504 Because when he left home he fully intended on poaching this deer. The night before he claims to have killed it most likely. He also said he took no pictures of the deer with his phone. C'mon man. All by design.

[@cman504]

​@@chrisvaught9531 what'd he do, tie it to a tree? You could never know where this deer was. As if you could find a 200+ deer and know where it was and then go shoot it. This wasn't in a pen bro. You're not thinking straight.

[@willvanceoutdoors614]

Good podcast. I personally believe CJ. This is my first podcast of this channel, personally i could feel the envy from these two host. Maybe im wrong but that’s what I felt. I mean at this point who would want to harvest a record whitetail today just to have your entire life history put on blast because of social media. We see the shaming and ridiculous hoops CJ is having to deal with. Plus the whole Milo Hansen buck as well as the scorer that got fired by B&C. Not to mention at the end of the day B&C will decide if the deer is the new record or not based on the person that took the deer.

[@gordonneverdies]

They shouldn't be allowed to take your phone or deer just off suspicion. That's not right.

[@raprock5000]

Maybe they know more. 🤔

[@jakemitchell1671]

Um...turns out it was much more than "suspicion."

[@GMilstead102]

That’s how most warrants are caused lol

[@aaronstutts4497]

Any mention what date the “ DA “ had trail camera pictures of this deer vs when it was killed? Only thing I never hear mention of…

[@cjalexander6801]

We did mention this October 16 th is the only trial camera picture of the deer and it’s not the DA’s property

[@aaronstutts4497]

Yeah I remember hearing that date but never mention of DA trail camera picture. Just wondering if deer was gone from his place for several weeks … hopefully things turn out to be in your favor and you get horns back.

[@cjalexander6801]

@@aaronstutts4497 it’s the DA’s brother/Larry Roberts who’s property they claim I shot it on I know a 13 year old that hunts Larry’s who runs cams has had them out since last year not one picture of that deer and it’s literally next property over not one picture so there’s not a chance the pictures don’t exists they’re a good bluff but they don’t exists if they did they’d be out there

[@Wtz-jx3wh]

@@cjalexander6801 if you get into some deep stuff man and they don’t drop your case look up the institute for justice and if your truly innocent they should help you get justice

[@MatthewHerrin14]

Where is the trail cam video mentioned ? I'd love to see it

[@chrisvaught9531]

Once this is all said and done he will be the same crackhead that he was before he poached this deer. His professional hunter status that he thinks he has gained will be nothing more than a memory. He will go back to his 5 kids and girlfriend or not and look for the next best thing. Meal tickets don't hang out on 10 acres that he thought was 30. He is not a hunter, he had nothing that hunters have. He claimed he borrowed everything and this deer fell in his lap....Please If he had a good story I might buy it but that's not the case. He has lied over and over. Watch both podcasts people.

[@daveyboy8907]

This guy has poached deer for years from cars..He is super shady.

[@89carguy]

I about got up and went to Ohio just to change his fire alarm battery...

[@stephens7941]

Anyone who doesn't know that a deer will travel 10+ miles at any point for many different reasons has never had the privilege of hunting mature whitetail bucks in the snow in the Great Lakes region. I hunt in rural northwest PA. My hunting partners and I have tracked mature bucks in the snow that have gone 19, 17, 16 miles, and many others 10+ miles. We have trail cameras out, and when a buck we are targeting walks in front of a camera during a November snowfall, we follow it. We call it a "take me around your world tour." And these bucks know EXACTLY where they are at the entire time. They go straight to buried scrapes and uncover them, and then do the same thing 10 miles away 4 hours later. They aren't searching for these scrapes, they walk straight to them. They know exactly where they are. If you don't believe me, I don't care. Look at Penn States biology department's GPS location studies on over 200 wild bucks from year one. Every 20 minutes their entire lives, these bucks ping their GPS location to a satellite. You will see how far they go... especially during the rut... or when overhunted or even spooked once by a hunter... even a DA hunter. The bull sh*tters saying a deer won't move if he feels safe. Stop the bull sh*t. That Penn State study showed us all that ALL DEER ARE INDIVIDUALS AND DIFFERENT. You can't say one or most deer did this, so this deer would have done that. You need a much better case than anything pointing to the deer traveling. Michael Waddell shot a mature buck in Kansas that had a GPS collar on it on an episode of Road Trips. He contacted the wildlife organization that had the GPS collar in this deer. This buck had a CONTINUOUS home range of elliptical shape that spanned 11 MILES... not even being pressured as most of the buck's range was on a wildlife preserve. Michael had bought the property next to the preserve on purpose. Any person who considers the distance any deer could move as reason to call a hunter a liar or poacher, that person is ignorant by the very definition of the word. By the way... the furthest one of the deer in the Penn State GPS study traveled... 70 MILES. Educate yourselves people. You'll be better hunters... and better people.

[@jakemitchell1671]

This post didn't age very well.

[@deandement3245]

Cj i believe in you. I have a very good friend that is a very good elk hunter, and i can't tell you the stories people have fabricated about how he shot them not knowing i was there. Stay strong god bless

[@kylemartinson722]

Lol this didn't age well he was charged with 23 counts so you clowns are just click bait.

[@Bowhunter163]

Right! I could tell from the beginning that he was full of it.

[@melvinavis8070]

Like a ghost town...😂

[@travisfisher2877]

How can anyone believe this guy? I’m only 10 minutes in and caught him changing his story and lying. He said he didn’t see anything all day then said he seen 4-5. Said he heard it grunt and looked and seen him about 150 yards away. Bs!!! You’re not going to hear a grunt that far away so either he’s lying about hearing it or how far away it was. Then said the last place he seen it was 100 yards away and it was pitch black by then. How’d you see it that far away in the pitch black? I know what happened with this case now but I can’t believe how many people didn’t catch the bs back when this aired.

[@Justin-pq3rq]

I remember the nite he shot it. The picture showed up on my FB feed. I live in Ohio so it was quick. Anyways, I made a comment about the score and the gross and net and all that. His fiancé replied to me immediately about my question. My point. There’s no way this dude would have posted that picture and done what he did if it was illegal. Unless he knows his story is full proof. But I believe him. 10 miles or 12 is nothing for a deer to travel. I’ve literally seen deer run 2 miles in 15 minutes while making drives. It’s unbelievable how much ground they can cover.

[@kylebell850]

Especially after a doe that's still got her yearling and won't give it up to the buck.

[@WMBCS]

You assume he isnt stupid. The idea that everyone who shoots a big buck gets it confiscated is laughable. This dude has MASSIVE holes in his story and he won’t be getting that deer back. Sorry.

[@hdelano11]

The funny thing is, it says the nite he shot it. Not day 😂😂. I'm sorry just had to point out that 😂😂😂😂

[@connerhenson8742]

A deer travelled what 15 plus miles in under 24 hours....not

[@chrisgarrison1158]

@@connerhenson8742 Bud I’ve done 20 miles in a day a few times in my life. You saying a wild animal with four legs during the rut isn’t going that far. If it wasn’t near the rut then you could maybe question it. In the middle of the rut that deer wasn’t on that DA’s land very much anyways if it was there at all.

[@josephtreadlightly5686]

Antler configuration is very complex. When a buck is older & grows a huge 8 point rack with a body that matches it usually makes him king of his domain. However a buck sprouting out all kinds of points with tine length much more likely will suffer with beam length. That is the case with that 8×8 from Oklahoma. But 2 huge 8 points will fight until 1 runs away. When a huge 8 fights with a slightly narrower 10 or 12 point mainframe deer they lock up & can't separate & die. So big typical deer will always most likely rely on being a large 10 or 12.

[@philipentwistle]

Him banging on that table was driving me nuts.

[@jasonbarnes3188]

Don’t watch then.

[@philipentwistle]

@jasonbarnes3188 Thank you for your genuis insight Dip Dizzywizzle.

[@hdelano11]

You and me both brother.

[@MichiganPublic]

Same 😂

[@cjalexander6801]

@@philipentwistlewhat do you get in life by Shitting on the man above you want your opinion to be heard why can’t he post his that’s what’s wrong with our society my man

[@garyb.4080]

I live in Southern Indiana, and I watched a deer swim across the Ohio river from KY.to Indiana, probably three quarters of a mile, no problem! During the rut they move like crazy. I don’t hunt anymore, but I hunted a typical 12 for 3 years, until someone shot him at night with a rifle, and cut his head off! He was moving about 3 to 14 miles a week! To answer the question about pictures, I shot a 140 deer, when I was 60, I didn’t take a picture until I got him home, I was worn out from dragging him! As long as you’re discussing L.E.O.s check out what’s going on in southern Indiana, in Clark County, with our ex sheriff!

[@Lewisdovefam]

He keeps tapping. Like tweaker type shiz.

[@dennisdurham694]

Have y'all done an episode on the Hollywood Cemetery Bucks?

[@TimCole-w5y]

Take your lawyers advice and keep quiet till court !🦌

[@jesusoftheapes]

no . Do not speak legally but speak openly and often . Make it impossible for the court to say you are trying to hide something . Post everything you have to social media . Make your voice heard and RECORD THE DNR INTERACTIONS >

[@hdelano11]

​@@jesusoftheapes lmao that is utterly the worst advice ever.

[@rickheadley6105]

Narcissistic people can’t be quiet.

[@jeffrey4869]

Isn't it little late for that??? lol

[@rufustfirefly9545]

Say NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@jasonhamilton8728]

Man I want to believe this kid but after this interview I am almost positive that something is off here. It sounds to me like he claims the photos in the dark were taken after the deer was hung up. If that’s the case he is full of shit the buck shows no sighs of having been hung by the neck or of the hocks being cut for a gambrel. Not to mention there is no way this goober worked the neck and all 4 legs to get this buck into position for the photos he isn’t that savvy

[@loucaruso3971]

I Actually Feel The Home Grown People Especially In States As Ohio e.t.c, People Are More Noted Not To Say Or Tell For As Long As Possible NOT TO MENTION TO OUTSIDERS WHAT & WHERE YOU HARVESTED A LARGE BUCK As Long As Possible !!!!...Even Still Doing Everything Legal, I Saw His 1st Podcast & As Said , 20 Days Had Gone By & No One In Surrounding Areas Had Yet To Say Anything !!!!..

[@Bowhunter163]

Quick question 1:20:19 he mentions taking it to the apartment to show the kids and meet Sierra so that “she knows how to get to your sisters”. Previously you mentioned she dropped you off the morning of the hunt, so wouldn’t she know how to get there already? Maybe I misunderstood? This is the main reason I would not come out and do one of these innocent or not.

[@HuntsT]

Good catch homie. Yeah that didn’t make any sense since she supposed dropped him off there in the first place to hunt.

[@Lostinthewoods218]

Yeah, previous mention is at right around the 5:00 mark.

[@qdub8158]

Didn’t his wife drop him off at the sister moms house? Not the sister house

[@shanehammer]

The number of 🚩about this story is overwhelming

[@iwalkincircles2960]

What flags?

[@eddieslater355]

Seriously, what red flags, no cell phone, pinned him at 120 yards with no cell phone, was at 60 yards then came to 8 yards withbeing seen, shot him at 5:30 on the 9th figures it died at 5:30 on the 10th. But didn't find him until 12:00pm. Was hunting a 30 acre property but really was 10 acres. Thought it left the property, but then they looked over and it was laying there. So now its 12:00pm and you have your cell phone and don't take one picture with you and the deer in the field, but you take pictures 6 hours later in the dark. Also for the deer being dead for 12 plus hours before taking pictures it looks like it just died. COME ON MAN!!. THEY WERE JUST A FEW RED FLAGS.

[@steveenczi8967]

@@eddieslater355you think he shot it out the truck?

[@eddieslater355]

@steveenczi8967 i always thought that's what he did. Makes the most sense. I don't think he is a hunter at all. Lazy. To go in and actually hunt that buck would be to much work. But too funny to all the people who believe that clown. They don't got much to say now. Maybe they can go visit C.J in jail.

[@steveenczi8967]

@ yea my red flag was his dark eyes and not only that he said he left his cell phone and sat all day for 11 hrs not too many 28 year olds can do that ?how would that property of not got him on trail camera

[@wildgus1234]

Respect for this podcast