3rd Gen Cummins Makeover | Carli Suspension and 37s!

[@CJCOffRoad]

The suspension on this truck: (Carli Starter system with track bar, end links, high clearance control arms, and add a pack leaf upgrade): www.cjcoffroad.com/Carli-Dodge-Ram-2500-3500-4x4-Starter-System-p/cs-dstarter.htm Wheels: 17” CJC Edition Method 315: www.cjcoffroad.com/Method-Race-Wheels-CJC-Edition-Ram-315-p/method-315.htm Tires: 37/12.5/17 Toyo RT Headlights custom built by Retroshop: retroshop.us

[@ty6896]

Would the truck look fine without the add a leaf rear? I am looking at just leveling the front with the carli starter kit but wasn’t gonna do the rear add a leaf because it adds like $500 to the lift. I need 4 shocks so wasn’t considering the carli leveling system kit which only has front shocks. Thoughts?

[@rednecktakeover5495]

2:17 voice crack of the century

[@bored.in.california2111]

They work significantly better than stoÄock

[@johnmichaels4330]

This is how they should have come from the factory.

[@roarkfabworks]

Great to see a 3rd gen build. I’ll be ordering a kit when the shocks are back in stock.

[@JeffryJForan]

1) Great video quality 2) Great camera work with cool B roll shots and cool transitions 3) Nice concise videos 4) Thanks for running "Real World" wheel/tire combos that you can actually go from stop to stop with Keep 'em coming!

[@CJCOffRoad]

We appreciate the support!

[@XanMan1980]

I love these 3rd gens. I’ve got an 08.

[@marioalessandro9082]

Got an 02

[@joeyt250]

Beautiful truck! I hope that front pinion seal is on the list of things to change.

[@stevecunha7525]

I have a 2015 Dodge ram 2500 I'd love to do exactly what you did on this truck. I love the super clean look. A truck you can tell has modifications but done the right way.

[@jrlopez4341]

Your truck looks beautiful I just wanted to say I live in Florida exactly by Deltona there are no good diesel mechanics as well as nobody to set up and help you with your truck or universals in the front four-wheel-drive are pretty shot is shaking the truck and it’s hard to find a good mechanic to fix the universal joints anyway not to complain but you are awesome thank you I’ve learned a lot

[@sebastiantorrez1667]

Would love to see a third gen get the pin top suspension, I’m just waiting to be able to afford one for my 06 later this year.

[@JTFSIX]

You cant afford.....stay in your intega

[@JasonWaterfalls13]

Great build and video! I loved to see something similar with a 2nd or 1st gen.

[@CJCOffRoad]

This same exact system is applicable to 2nd gens actually! First gens have less options. For those trucks your only budget friendly but significant suspension improvement option is to do a custom leaf pack with nice shocks.

[@kevin11288]

Cant agree more. I have an 06’ I did a similar set up on. I also have a steering box stabilizer, read head stealing gear, and crossover steering and track bar (7/8th hiems kit from rough stuff). The truck drives like a modern SUV now. I actually got hit buy a mid size sedan at 60 and I assumed the Carli control arms would be trashed.. the frame bent before the control arms or DOM tube (steering) did.. incredible.

[@chadjohnson7544]

Im running this setup and it is awesome. Yet i honestly dont know why but running 37s i have went through 3 powersteering pumps and gearboxes. Please give me recommendations better than oem power steering? Im running red head and blue top gear boxes.

[@theprodegypk]

I just bought a ‘07 on 42’s with a huge lift probably 6” not sure on the details of the lift components just bought it last night because it was such a good deal. Do you sell anything for the 1500’s all I see if 2500/3500’s. Front tires are going to need to be replaced soon thinking of going 40’s because 42” selection sucks. Looking for something aggressive with a good life span. Any advice of either suspension or tires? Also think I need an alignment, I mostly care about good steering and ride quality as ive got kids, more of a toy than anything got a 22 tahoe RST for my reliable daily with the kids, awesome truck btw.

[@campbell7575]

Have a 09 same truck gunmetal grey, want to take my 6in lift off and get this lift kit so I can still run 37s with the method bronze. Really great job CJC

[@killerbeau95]

i like it all but what about for us with the 1500? i have same truck otehrwise

[@cperdomo12]

Greetings friend excellent work. Can you tell me what suspension you used and how many inches?

[@shawnwollmann]

The day I find a clean 3rd Gen I now know what I’m doing with it 👀🔥🔥🔥

[@dansmith6725]

hi . I was wondering the mpg you get running this setup. I would like to do this seup to my 07. keep up the great content. from ontario

[@betterwithrum]

Serious question, how would this setup work with towing an RV? I have a 3rd gen diesel and it's primary purpose is towing our RV. I figured the ride quality was just how trucks drove, but I've seen a few videos now that talk about the ride quality after upgrading only the suspension on these Dodges. But will I see adverse effects (gas milage, towing capacity, tire wear, etc) from this kind of upgrade?

[@CJCOffRoad]

This particular system (and really any Carli system) can be set up with either the stock rear leaf packs for stock capacity, or one of the Carli leaf packs and airbag kits for better ride and stock capacity. Aside from cost to make it happen, there's really no downside to upgrading suspension with a proper system like these!

[@apex7313]

the truck looks good man👍 nice job

[@zachcurtis4311]

Nice build. I own a 3rd gen as well. I would like to have seen a view that showed how much the tires extend out past the wheel wells. There were a couple times in the video that almost showed that view but cut away.

[@CJCOffRoad]

It’s the same spec that’s on almost every Ram we post! There’s no wiggle room for 37s, so they all get the same wheel specs.

[@alexandrosachilleas7162]

Hi. I'm in Canada and I have a 2008 Dodge Ram FG sport 1500 Hemi 5.7l. How much does it cost to transform the truck like that? Total cost ? Thank you

[@daveharding4147]

I never heard of u guys and I wish I would have before I did my leveling kit good stuff u got goin on tho

[@Brian.8272]

the old square body Chevys had a terrible ride with the 4 leaf springs and loose steering, do you guys have a system that improves the ride while lifting 4 inches

[@1g4u]

Do you have a link for the headlights? Thanks 👍

[@TIMLOUIEBRAVO]

I bet those headlights are a great improvement over the stOoOoOcKKKKKK ones.

[@chrisfield1095]

I wish toyo made a 37r17 R/T in 10 ply load range E. I won’t run D rated tires on my truck but I love the R/T . I had it in a 35” before I moved to 37s

[@CJCOffRoad]

Remember that even though these tires have a D letter rating, they’re rated to 3,500 pounds which is E load range territory.

[@marcosmendoza9971]

Awesome video! I have a question: I have an 06 with 37’s with a 5” lift. My tires rub like crazy, how did you make it happen on a 3”?

[@CJCOffRoad]

It's all about wheel specs. Apparently your wheels aren't the correct specs for 37s!

[@koolkeith8908]

Very nice set up. Did MPG's take a hit with the lift and 37's? I do a lot of HWY driving in the summertime. A 2.5 inch lift with 35's may be a better fit for high miles driving?

[@CJCOffRoad]

They really don't make much of a difference on the highway! Around town you'll notice a slight hit, but that's about it.

[@koolkeith8908]

@@CJCOffRoad I'll definitely give you a call when I'm ready to upgrade. Waiting for my 33's to wear out.

[@Flampcakes]

i like how it looked before tbh lol i like the grandpa look lol

[@Fluxion11]

Removing the Cummins badge is sacrilege.

[@richcreager7877]

Finally a Truck that doesn't have them dam Ghetto Roadster wheels

[@duelsporthonda9003]

I have Fabtechs that ride like junk on my 06 5.9. I’m looking for some good shocks that soak up the bumps a lot better with about a 6 inch lift.

[@CJCOffRoad]

Sadly shocks alone won't completely address your issue as those systems as a whole aren't designed to ride well. Something like this would be a huge improvement: www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/03-09-carli-systems/products/carli-dodge-ram-2500-3500-6-back-country-2-0-suspension-system

[@_D.I.G_]

what if i wanted to keep stock height of truck? im new to trucks I've had mustangs my whole life and only recently bought myself a 2004 dodge ram 2500 with the 8 ft bed and a leer cap. its a very clean truck only has 86k miles on it never beat on no rust. The stock ride is abysmal, and im trying to figure out ways to improve it without rebuilding the entire suspension. can you guys help me out? the truck is used to transport furniture and supplies 190 miles on highway roads from state island to southern new jersey. Goals with the build are to increase the mpg, smooth out the ride, and get new tires/wheels. it is not the diesel engine either because nj/ny state laws are strict on diesel and i didn't want to deal with that. its the updated late model 04 5.7L v8 with the 365 hp.

[@michaels3474]

What do you have for a regular 2004 Dodge 1500? It suffers from the bad ride the same as 2500. Help us!!!!

[@willcrump2942]

Hi, I have a third GEN 03 dodge ram 1508 foot bed with a 3 inch lift. Do you guys have a kit off-road kit?

[@thomasbrustad5596]

Awesome build.....good looking truck.

[@HoserHotrods]

I want to do this but with a 2005/2007 f250 6.0!

[@GhostZodick]

Great video! Really great job. The truck looks totally different after you made the touch up. I've watched this video several times just to be inspired. I have a question. Do you have to have at least the carli starter suspension to fit 37 inch tires? Will they fit on stock suspension?

[@DAKOTANSHELBY]

I have a 3rd Gen 3/4 ton and need to replace the existing 35x12.5 VorTrac tires. They will not balance and requires more weights than reasonable. Plus the side walls show dry rot cracking in only a few years of service. I might consider the 37s, but I already have issues with tire scrub on lower control arms during turns. 37s will be worse. How does the Carli control arms avoid this scrubbing with 37s? And does your tires, as shown, balance reasonably well without needing to add balance bead bags? Thanks.

[@CJCOffRoad]

Wheel specs are key to rubbing the arms. To fit 37s on a Ram you need a 8.5-9” wide wheel with +18 to +25 offset. To make that work these arms also have a fabricated notch to offer more tire clearance at full lock. With a quality tire like Toyo, Nitto, BFG etc you should only use a few ounces of weight! These balanced great.

[@pietrobeghelli1706]

Is this set available in Italy? How much for it? Thanks ! Great job!

[@CJCOffRoad]

Yes, email us at: [e-mail]

[@joshuakeller6354]

How does tow change? I haul a 5th wheel or large enclosed trailer with a car and stuff in it.

[@CJCOffRoad]

Carli has a few different options actually, so you can retain full capacity if desired!

[@mckenziefotoworks]

What is labor costs on this build? I have an 06 5.9, and I’m looking at doing the same thing.

[@CJCOffRoad]

It really depends on the shop, but estimate around $800 give or take based on average prices.

[@CalebJKerns]

I have a 2001 Cummins 3/4 ton. I currently have hockey pucks to get me by while I save for a nicer suspension. I am a farmer and even though this is not my field rig it is on terrible roads with wash boards, pot holes, and small bumps. Would a starter system be a good choice?

[@CJCOffRoad]

Yeah a starter system is the perfect way to improve ride on a budget and then upgrade as funds allow. It will ride night and day better than a spacer!

[@gjolinares23]

That’s a great result looks good 👍 I don’t care much for the wheels but good work. I don’t even care for rams but looks nice.

[@Rommer2258]

Now do a performance long arm kit, not many of those around. Kinda lost between the dominator kits.

[@CJCOffRoad]

They system is extremely impressive. Those long arms are a work of art too!

[@Rommer2258]

@@CJCOffRoad I would personally take the long arm short body kit. Over the short arm dominator.

[@patriotarborist711]

I would like to replace the OEM headlights on my 2005 3500 with something aftermarket and brighter than factory. Where do you suggest I go? Thanks for another quality video!

[@CJCOffRoad]

Doing a HID projector retrofit like these lights is absolutely the way to go if the budget allows. This is significantly better than any of the pre-done lights.

[@robertalley9593]

Alpharex headlights are Awsome. I have a set on mine. Same quality as Morimotos but half the price.

[@patriotarborist711]

@@robertalley9593 Thank you. I just checked their website. Their lights start at 2006 and I have a 2005. Figures lol

[@bjclements5069]

What do you guys use for hubs? Can this suspension handle heavy towing?

[@CJCOffRoad]

We use SKF or Timken for factory style, and then Yukon and Dynatrac if you want to upgrade to free spins. All of these systems can handle towing quite well and we offer load supplementation options for them as well.

[@jesscolliflower5531]

Up in the air about control arms atm. Will synergy steering work with carli components, stabilizer need any specific mounts if compatible?

[@CJCOffRoad]

Absolutely! We regularly using Synergy steering with a Carli stabilizer and front suspension!

[@sunj8286]

Do you have a solution for the 2018 ram rebel? I need to get rid of that air suspension and switch to the coilovers

[@frankwolf9187]

I have a 3rd gen. 2005 3500 Quad Cab SRW with the SWB. I tow a camper with it. Would like to upgrade suspension for better ride but keep the towing capacity. What would you recommend?

[@frankwolf9187]

Would also like to run 35 inch tires maybe 37's.

[@CJCOffRoad]

This system should do the trick! To maintain full tow capacity you can keep your factory leaf springs, or do this add a pack system and remove the overload on your pack. If the camper has extremely heavy tongue weight, you can also do a Firestone bag and daystar cradle system.

[@frankwolf9187]

@@CJCOffRoad what is in the add a pack?

[@amaradietz9776]

Would this setup work for a 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 Mega Cab (4WD Hemi) ?????????

[@loganrm1994]

I’m about to cash out on carli or Thuren short arms. The fixed length poly bushing arms I have did not make it past 40k, I think it’s my driving style.

[@mudboy5241]

Can you please be more specific on where to get that system from I have yet to found it for that price

[@CJCOffRoad]

Here's a link to the system on the truck! Keep in mind we added the rear shocks, track bar, sway bar end links, add a packs and control arms which are all optional: www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/03-09-carli-systems/products/2003-09-dodge-ram-2500-3500-4x4-diesel-2-0-leveling-system

[@S0lidStewie]

Can you do a comparison with Carli shocks vs stock shocks suspension off-road

[@CJCOffRoad]

Check out the Carli vs stock video we did!

[@IvanMartinez-nu7of]

Hey man, I love the channel. I am looking at BDS but found your and I'm wondering if you could give a comparison on some difference so I can make the right decision?

[@CJCOffRoad]

BDS is a lift kit company, so their goal is height increase. With their systems you’ll see ride quality similar to or worse than stock depending on the height. Carli is a suspension system company, so you’ll see massively improved ride, but less lift height options than brands like BDS that are made to achieve X or Y desired height for looks.

[@IvanMartinez-nu7of]

@@CJCOffRoad Thanks so much for the reply. I am sold. Definitely looking to improve ride quality.

[@quwerschlaegern]

Nice Truck, what ist this for a headlight?

[@sethperry1323]

I wish this stuff was In stock! 😭

[@mikestrucks]

Awesome video ! That’s a very clean 3rd gen 👌🏻

[@ryanltr666]

Well shit guys you just keep making me spend my money 🤣this will be the next thing going on my truck. Just gota figure out the back spacing on my rims.

[@michaelengelhardt5296]

I have an 04 did a level kit on it rough country springs rancho 9000 adjustable shocks carli adjustable track bar and apoc industries adjustable control arms. Rides like crap lol. Do u think changing the coils to carli will make a difference and can I still use my rancho shocks or should I order the carli shocks with the coils

[@CJCOffRoad]

Ideally you’ll want to pair the Carli shocks and coils together since they’re designed to work as a system!

[@GingersnapRacing]

Curious what kind of roof height you get with a setup like this. Looking for a 3rd gen and after taking care of the basics want to run a 3” kit with either 37 or 35” but have worries about roof clearance.

[@CJCOffRoad]

You’re looking at a little over 7 feet for most of these trucks on 37s.

[@GingersnapRacing]

@@CJCOffRoad yeah pretty much what I figured. Dang parking garages at work making life difficult at 7ft 😂

[@carlosbishig1]

Great job and hello from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷 ! I like 👍 excelente

[@That.dodge._darryl]

How many inches of lift does this suspension give, I’m looking for my 03 1500 trying to find the right tire size for me

[@joeyriveira6697]

What headlights did you use for the build ??

[@dbrandon4528]

Super Clean build!

[@GHBaseball44]

Are you not able to run 0 offset methods?

[@CJCOffRoad]

You can, but that wider offset requires significantly more trimming to fit 37s.

[@frankwolf9187]

Very nice job.

[@onesadtech]

Beautiful build!

[@bayouboattrash]

This is great!!!! I was curious though, how would this work with 10" wide wheels to get a tad more offset for a little wider stance? Have you tried different wheels from the methods?

[@CJCOffRoad]

Absolutely no chance of 37s on ten wides, but you could get a 33 or 35 to work depending on the exact specs.

[@bayouboattrash]

@@CJCOffRoad I apologize, I should have mentioned 35s. My truck is a family vehicle as well so I'm not looking for anything bigger than that. I really was looking for a system with good driving characteristics and more clearance for larger tires with a tad wider stance. This sounds like it fits the bill. Thank you for the response!

[@bayouboattrash]

@@CJCOffRoad this is a beautiful build by the way!

[@CJCOffRoad]

Yeah you should be able to make it work then! Just stick to less than -18 or 20 preferably. 👍

[@deanfirnatine7814]

Nice, looks like more than a 3 inch lift, what plastic exactly had to be trimmed for the 37's, with these wheels having a +25 offset would an 18 need any trimming at all?

[@CJCOffRoad]

Just a small bit of the bottom cab side of the plastic fender liner up front. As long as you meet the offset and width specs you’re good to go on trimming!

[@DM-tf6mk]

Super clean! Love it

[@360_Will]

That is a beautiful build! What do you guys run for skid plates?

[@CJCOffRoad]

These trucks have a few built in skid plates, but we typically don’t run anything on them aside from sliders if absolutely necessary for hard trail use.

[@navseal345]

Does your body guy like doing rust repair? LOL The midwest salt hasn't treated my '06 MegaCab very well.

[@chevyracer666]

Do you not "need" upgraded ball joints for 37"??

[@CJCOffRoad]

If the stock ball joints are not worn, there's no reason to replace them. If they are, we have several stronger options that are available!

[@Bwoods151]

Truck looks awesome!

[@huntersmith9543]

What are some good places to find a good 3rd gen with the 5.9 and 4wheel shifter on the floor? I’ve look at Car Gurus, is there other better places?

[@jasonelliott9762]

Keep an eye out on Gateway Car Connection out of Missouri. They have alot of 1st, 2nd and 3rd gen Rams , as well as OBS F250/350’s. I bought an 05 Ram 5.9 4x4(89k miles when purchased)from a dealer in Salt Lake City. I ordered a Backcountry kit that i should be receiving soon.

[@Upliftyourbrothers]

I love my floor shifter 4x4. I’ve got the 2005 4 door long bed. G56 6 speed, with Yukon manual locking front hubs, put in a Yukon rear torsion diff. Next move is Carli package with full leaf pack.

[@huntersmith9543]

@@Upliftyourbrothers Where did you find your rig?

[@Upliftyourbrothers]

@@huntersmith9543 neighbor. Retired doctor wanting something smaller. 112k miles, no rust.

[@jonbagley1243]

Looked better with the chrome

[@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power]

I like a little more offset, but sweet transformation.

[@jrlopez4341]

I want my truck to look like that

[@amolinari9]

3rd gen baby!

[@BeregondFirstCaptain]

Do you have to out bigger tires with the suspension

[@caliranchliving2068]

Does it need to be re geared?

[@jcrowe3065]

What is the price of that setup

[@D_is_active_]

Do you guys have a link or where to get those headlights

[@CJCOffRoad]

retroshop.us/

[@nickgoubeau4783]

where do you get the black badges?

[@baileysavage8697]

What parts did you need to swap to a sport bumper?

[@rileyfuson6598]

Where can I find a front and back bumper like this?

[@CJCOffRoad]

Here's a how to: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5azYYygqNSbhqs

[@Coltonm8994]

It looked really good before also to be honest

[@calebalt1557]

exactly! I loved the brush guard!

[@Atizzle121310]

How do I get your shop to do this to my truck?

[@johnnysins2123]

Which Swag bar option did y’all use?

[@CJCOffRoad]

This truck is on the factory sway bar with Carli end links. If you want to improve the ride though you can always go for the Torsion Sway Bar!

[@ladiesman2359]

What’s up guys! Love the video. I just had a starter kit installed on my truck. I’m just curious if there’s any benefit to installing the shocks with the shafts up or down?

[@CJCOffRoad]

Nope! Since these are IFP shocks, they can be mounted in either direction with no change in performance.

[@oksanatuszynski8042]

Would this work on 03 2wd Dually

[@blakman41]

Does +18-25 on 9 inch wide wheels apply for 35's?

[@CJCOffRoad]

You can get away with 0 offset and 35s!

[@blakman41]

@@CJCOffRoad. Thank you!

[@r6mikeg]

Awesome build!!!. I'M 15min away from CJC awesome guys with all my question building my 09 mega cab 3gen build. Carli all the way .

[@Tegatacos]

What did you do with them stock wheels? Love to buy them!

[@CJCOffRoad]

They sold already!

[@onekilogaming7721]

What steering stabilizer?

[@matthewc.westover2522]

What driveshaft mods are needed for the 3" compared to the 6"

[@CJCOffRoad]

These 6” systems require the front driveshaft to be lengthened, and then a rear carrier bearing drop if equipped.

[@BigBoyReggie]

Is carli ever gonna make suspension for GMC and Chevy?

[@Ben-jz4ke]

Notice they went with D load range tires. My guess is for ride quality. Anyone else run D load range and tow?

[@CJCOffRoad]

When it comes to 37s you need to go off the actually capacity of the tire and not the letter rating, since many are D rated but with E load range capacities. There's lots of options that are rated for at least 3,500 pounds per tire.

[@Ben-jz4ke]

I appreciate it thanks. Ride quality improvement going to 37/17s from 35/17s? And what psi would you recommend daily driving on 37s(not towing). @@CJCOffRoad