ck3's worst men at arms

[@HeyCara]

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[@Lucky52903]

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[@reki4279]

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[@aouyiu]

Damn, here I thought you did all the editing. 😢

[@HeyCara]

i edited literally every other short...

[@aouyiu]

@@HeyCara oh 👍

[@QutalToddHoward]

Ah yes, the perfect man-at-arms for the MANY times that i need to counter light cavalry but, lamentably, dont have access to spearmen.

[@donkarnage6986]

you dont need to use counter, just buff your armored footmen, they will get op in the later stages

[@tonybryk3312]

​@donkarnage6986 that doesn't help to win battles at the start

[@Memelord-md5hs]

​@donkarnage6986 the issue is the normal heavy infantry is better since the sarawit is usually getting a -10 toughness since the region they are from are mostly drylands or mountains

[@notouki6364]

Not gonna lie 90% of the time you just take some spear and bows for the counter and then Its heavy cav spam time

[@thiago292]

Nah, archers ftw. They're probably the most cost effective unit in the game

[@connorgrant1816]

​@@thiago292and the fact that they have two accolades buffing them rather than one

[@nomnomnom8954]

@@connorgrant1816Ye if you rly wanna min max full crossbows with double accolades is the best

[@zainkhan2245]

Bc of how maa counters work in game, if you have enough of a single type of maa they won’t get countered.

[@connorgrant1816]

@@zainkhan2245 yeah, add in that not all counters are created equal (Like skirmishers v heavy infantry where countered heavy infantry still win*) Which gets amplified by % based boosters buffing certain units way more than others *Obviously a lot of cultural units can be a lot stronger than others/generic, but it's still mostly true

[@tuxtitan780]

Cultural MAAs really need to be touched up and polished imo. Some of them are just useless and theres no point in getting them, and others are so absurdly OP that you dont need any diversity in your army whatsoever. I hope we can see armies in general become a bit more complicated, interesting, and balanced at some point as well as being much more moddable.

[@derekskelton4187]

Yeah they were a fun idea, but I feel like PDX has fallen for the fandom screaming for bigger numbers without considering the balance

[@vincentwhite938]

Well, in a comment in the diary dev 153, they said that would do a little rework on the men at arms mechanics, Will be a little more usefull.

[@darrylwroy8172]

Ck2 was better In that acprect

[@Danielhuren]

to be fair to having an army composed of mostly one type of unit in the game is only true for certain units (varangian and horse archers) and its not optimal your best combos are gonna be a meat shield like infantry/pykes/skirmishers to soak damage and a damage dealer like heavy cav/elephants/bows

[@randomelite4562]

Thankfully there are mods that fill in the gap. The Cultural MAAs (I think Rework/New Version?) Mod is wonderful for adding in new Men-at-Arms and even unique art.

[@marcelob.678]

Since it looks based on the map like theyre an ethiopian unit, it makes sense from a flavor sort of way. Ethiopia is a very mountanous country, and historically did not expand far beyond its border. This is prolly an attempt to keep them as a strong defensive unit and a weak offensive unit against ethiopia's neighbors to simulate it having relatively stable borders thru history, others cant attack the AI easily and the AI cant expand easily

[@gimmethegepgun]

You're correct that it's the cultural unit for the Ethiopian culture. However, one thing to note is that, in addition to its overall awfulness, it also only becomes available in the High Medieval era. Long after the player would presumably have conquered the entire area using normal units.

[@GamingPenguin4545]

This would be great and all, if it; A: wasnt locked behind High Medieval era and B: Their neighbors cultural MAA wasnt a unit that explicitly counters Heavy Infantry

[@llosgfynydd9043]

I pegged the Sawaritt as my absolute worst. Good to see i wasn't going mad.

[@xeanderman6688]

Please don't peg without consent

[@Trypragmatic]

The light cav in Spain has bonus in hills. Very cool

[@molybdaen11]

And the polish one is good in forests.

[@cobaltxiv4408]

Irish cav (hobilars) has a bonus in hills and forests.

[@lt_hammerfist5532]

This is why I like playing in Scandinavia and spam huscarls and Varangian vets. Then I go around raiding and stack wiping armies for the prestige.

[@MilitaryHistory1]

Indeed, fighting armies 3 or 4 times my size is always fun

[@reaperking2121]

Even worse is that as the vikings you have enough diplo range to attack a Greek Culture tile from day 1. Which means you can create a combined army containing both Cataphracts but also Varangians.

[@FredrikSkievan]

@@reaperking2121 My favorite combo by far.

[@midgematic8659]

CK3 NORSE CULTURE 🔛🔝‼️‼️‼️

[@LvL1henchman]

I personally like to hybridize scandinavian culture with khazard. So i can have varangian veterans and horse archers.

[@sunfish2]

Zbrojnosh, a Czech Heavy Infantry variant, also have a terrain penalty in Wetlands, which admittedly, isn't as harsh. They're good in Forests and Hills, and counter Archers, so they're good for the Czech starts, but their low stats make them feel like diet Huscarls in a wider context.

[@konstancemakjaveli]

Lately im trying to limit myself to retinue-only and cultural MAAs, bcuz i find myself get too strong too fast. The retinue MAAs are actually with lower upkeep, although more expensive, yet much more effective. I reccomend everyone to try it.

[@jarlerak1]

My favorite MAA combo is: Starting as Chinese, for the Chu-ko-nu against horse archers Hybridise with Saka to get horse archers and Tarkhans, an early heavy cavalry; These give you a good base to go into India to get bamboo bows and elephantry. This combo hard counters every other army in the game afaik

[@KierEv02]

Low-key first read the caption as “CK3’s worst men” 💀🤣

[@benjaminmclaren8782]

I do wish more games would use cultural units as replacements, instead of alternatives. Then it would make it harder for casual players to compare stats, and also give more flair to each culture.

[@LeftoverPat]

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[@pjoterem141]

omg leftoverpat hello

[@LordWyatt]

Why do they even exist? I smell a challenge for the Spiffing Brit

[@Skyblade12]

I’d love to see another CK3 video from him. Surprised he hasn’t tried to break the stacking Legend buffs yet.

[@Jo_Jo2511]

I once played as egyptian coptic and merged the egyptian culture with greek resulting me for having both best men at arms in the game. Mubarizun and Cataphracht lol 😂 I manage to kick both Byzantine and the Caliphate and start the Egypt Coptic hegemony

[@calamity916]

Man, that's just sad.

[@pedronabais1456]

ngl cav counters being better on mountains sounds hilarious

[@NothingToSeeHere-po5ci]

To suffer, they exist to suffer.

[@nattemann]

To add to injury, all their neighboring cultures men-at-arms all counter heavy infantry.

[@Zedvais]

Meanwhile spamming konni raid is literally wiping your enemy everytime 😂

[@MazzaAzi]

Honestly considering that they use the deadly Anti-shield shotel and wear relatively light armor while also using bows and Javelins, the Sarawit *Should* be considered light infantry that counters light infantry (And maybe Heavy infantry) but not Cav (don't know where the fuck that Idea came from) and then they should, obviously, lose the drylands and desert debuff cz thats their fucking home. Replace it with forest or somewhere a Ethiopian unit would reasonably struggle in.

[@mysticbadger8990]

‘Yes Cara’ we all say in unison

[@prestonjones1653]

I do the same think in CK3 that I did in CK2- PURE HORSE ARCHERS

[@Pottatow]

Some people get dynamic men-at-arms armies. I just get 12 full stacks kf gendarmes.

[@hilebard]

So basically it's mountaineer infantry

[@arno_grnfld455]

Horse archers are so overpowered

[@GeneralCalculus]

At one point I was thinking that cultural/regional men-at-arms shouldn't get benefits from certain upgrades and eventually special men-at-arms unlocked early in gmae would be left dust by upgraded generic men-at-arms and end game men-at-arms, but I guess in time frame of this game big burly varangian swinging his axe is as effective in 1453 as he was in 867.

[@Brandonhayhew]

Horse archers is so OP

[@artilleriman]

In ck3 they arent really that overpowered

[@mel1s218]

I mean they have no counter ​@@artilleriman

[@artilleriman]

@@mel1s218 crossbows

[@mel1s218]

@artilleriman well okay but that is only 0.5 counter. Which I didn't really count

[@artilleriman]

@@mel1s218 They are still not "that" good. only in 867 but even then they are like slightly stronger than light cavalry, catafrakts crushes them.

[@СанечкаШульц]

lmao, i guess whats “Lion’s Guard” from Starsector moment

[@thejake1453]

On otherside i really like the heavy cav that Georgia can get

[@sandercohen5543]

It's such a shame a lot of these are poorly balanced, because they DO provide a lot of historical flavor to the game. I usually end up using them even if they're inferior to the generic units for roleplay reasons, but then again, the CK3 combat system is kind of a mess anyway.

[@mikefischer8576]

I just wish guns would get added in as a men at arms. Like yes I will spend the money to have a super powerful ranged unit that is offset by being low health

[@Azazeel._]

my fav combo is learning trait and mixing culture, start with syiriac in wessex, and mix it with norse on ireland to get huscarl and vets, and i hate Cathapract because i have reach 100++ for each bonus stats and those northman beat them

[@JR-ne7gy-ruht]

Caballeros is in my opinion the best cultural men at arms

[@Tyork42]

1:07:02 my brother in christ they built a pyramid in Memphis Tennessee that is now a bass pro shop in 1991

[@vampireknight5821]

what about House Guard? Arent they also bad since there can be only 500 of them? Unlike the rest of men-at-arms where you can get like 1k or more later?

[@rinzzler366]

I build them only for rp purposes, they're always my trusty spartan warriors for my leonidas

[@PatchWorkExe]

Neat.

[@zinedinebourenane1015]

Mubarizun for the win

[@fabriziocossio]

Aternativelh, you spawn right in front of them as a arab, and you have a heavy infantry thag not only counter other hwavy infantry but also is good on dry land Lol

[@yare__7813]

Ааааааа женщина!!

[@pirat9750]

Hey I wanted to ask why it is you guys use German in your graphics? It's a nice touch! Really confused me when I first read it though :)

[@MichaelKing015]

What i want is cultural names of the troops and their looks i can't immerse myself building a goddamn heavy infantry that looks like a western knight in india

[@finnwalters4113]

Ive been having so much fun with the konni light cav from the cultural tenant from hungry. To OP when massacring routers but reccomend a mix of mercs

[@beermaster3359]

The Zrbonosh of the Slovenian(west slavs) aré good,they aré heavy infantry good in mountains

[@paulpalmer1690]

I don't know I feel like the shomer are garbage

[@jimmothy3012]

I think they worse then normal light inf

[@hklassehutten1476]

Konni 2012 all the way

[@John-kd2tc]

Make a video about the best ones.

[@BT-ql5vj]

but i like them

[@ChronicleKing]

Personally i prefer AGOT CK3 mod with westeros men at arms mod just saying........not trying to find people to play with or anything....unless😂

You build it for the roleplay or because normal heavy infantry is unavailable or more expensive possibly ? I mean if you min/max efficiency in any game something HAS to be at the bottom, or should all units be copy/pasted stat lines with different names? lol

[@sl6706]

They could have given them higher damage and less toughness compared to standard heavy infantry with bonuses to desert/Mountains for flavor. And still fit the role play of how a heavy infantry unit living in desert mountain regions might defer from European heavy infantry. I do agree however that Paradox shouldn’t make carbon copy’s of every unit, but they should at least make sense while also being unique to their culture.

[@germanmandalorian3514]

Varagians or Druschinka all the way.

[@MacBeth55555]

Did you just call Pikemen 'Pick-men'?

[@MarCel32mr]

A hibrid culture between vikings and greeks would fix the military problem for ever lol

[@codymoon7552]

I think we should get Legions for the Roman culture. Just to have a little fun

[@user-lv2yo5vh4c]

If you get to late medieval you unlock Palatina

[@Azrael178]

Why do they exist? AI probably kept having really good time there and created very bizarre empires that made map look wrong and they nerfed them by adding shitty infantry and making AI favour building them. That or my guess is completely off the wall and they are just the last remnants of some previous unit rebalance they wanted to do but abandoned halfway and forgot to change those back

[@arielavinoam7264]

What about Shomer? Also pretty bad

[@ПетърКирков]

No slave unit L game

[@arbikiuszelemelek3347]

Ai prioritises cultural men at arms which means the Ethiopians (I think its their man at arms) will build this bad unit, this is an entirely necessary nerf to the overwhelmingly op Ethiopians

[@team_ribs]

How are the etheopians OP? Ive not played alot in africa

[@arbikiuszelemelek3347]

@@team_ribs Oh sorry i was joking, they typically stay within their borders and dont do a whole lot, maybe get relt by muslims

[@viroshanargiri4641]

Yeah, Ethiopians literally had no advantage of uniqueness in Africa. Egyptians has mubarizun and floodplains which are the second best terrain in the game as well as Giza pyramid, Alexandria lighthouse and universities for special buildings. Mali has three gold mines letting you roleplay as Mansa Musa .

[@vincentwhite938]

I think it's more to buff somalíes men ay arms.

[@philipweber9545]

My pick is the goendag militia for the dutch MAA. Just a straight up worse version of light footmen

[@marcin_kalbarczyk]

CK3 is weak ass game, Ive played it for 1000h because of roleplay possibilities however imperator rome has similar roleplay potential while also being a good game.

[@vincentwhite938]

I mean, imperator has bad interface and the commerce is kinda useless unless You are at the mediterraneum, so i think they are in equallity

[@marcin_kalbarczyk]

@@vincentwhite938 to me imperator interface is classic and I dont see a problem with conmerce

[@mortache]

bruh any game you played over 100h is not a "weak" game, let alone 1000h smh. There's lots of reasons why people didn't play Imperator Rome, for me personally its the UI and graphics. Like its not even about being "pretty", I just love seeing the genetic influence of my grandmother's face in the face of my children

[@newmoonwithface]

bro did you think you would get unlimited playtime? 1k hours is more content than 99% of games have

[@marcin_kalbarczyk]

@@newmoonwithface no but Id like to enjoy it more when I spend this much time in a game, and dont have to install 60 mods to fix the game problems.

[@donkarnage6986]

maybe play the game alittle more, they will get 200-700 procent ekstra damage.. You make alot of these weird informations video that isnt true.. Try play the game to the end and see whats happen. Or maybe google things first.. The worst mma is the light food men in the later game, not enough damage, even with buff and accalades..

[@tylerdavis3]

Varangians and Cataphract army only ftw