Does the Hyundai Elantra N Have the Infamous Theta II Engine?

[@RoccoHorvath]

I'm impressed you were able to find so much about the history and changes made to the engine. Great video as always!

[@n-power-automotive]

@@RoccoHorvath thanks! It was quite time consuming. There’s not a lot of info out there.

[@28naveenator27van]

My friends theta 2 died and hes still pissed. One loyal hyundai guy thats never gonna buy another.

[@jessicaphoenix1312]

Another reason why doing berak in oil changes are important for any car. I always do one after about 1500 miles, then another after 2-3 thousand and every 3 thousand after that. Never had an issue with my Elantra N despite beating it up at the track other than a wheel bearing problem due to not adjusting camber enough. I had mine tuned to 320 whp and reved it to 7 grand a lot. The cars are good and I'd love to buy a TCR car if I can get my hands on it.

[@LeftenantMalachi]

Great overview of the history of the Theta-II, and general reliability of our cars. If I could improve something it would be reinforcing the knock sensor or covering it up to prevent it going into limp mode with heavy rain, or car washes. Left me and my kids stranded once, not fun. I've had my car for almost 3 years and overall it's been reliable. Adaptive cruise control and auto windows down for the passenger would be welcomed additions, although I know they were cutting costs to make the car more affordable.

[@n-power-automotive]

@@LeftenantMalachi thanks! And I 💯 agree with you on the knock sensor, adaptive cruise and auto up/down passenger window. Those would all be great things to have.

[@matthewr.33]

It is literally a cup-winning engine(G4KH)

[@aussiefurbymogwaifan6621]

What about the 1.6 that's in your nline and the i20n? Since it's been around alot longer then the 2.0

[@matthewr.33]

@aussiefurbymogwaifan6621 it's a different engine., a 'Smartstream something'

[@sandwhichdestroyer12]

They're really great motors. These G4KH Theta II engines can really take a beating. You can technically call them race engines because the official N TCR racecar uses nothing but the stock motor and a tune, along with an oil catch can. I've seen brand new crates for about $5k, so you can buy a brand new track built motor and possibly swap it into another car 😁 I don't doubt these will be used in future swaps and eventually attract attention to how slept on they are.

[@jeffreycheng5984]

Too unreliable. NEVER AGAIN.

[@sandwhichdestroyer12]

@jeffreycheng5984 Maybe they earlier Theta I engines, but so far, these are proving otherwise. They're very solid.

[@BboyVReck]

​@@sandwhichdestroyer12 TCR elantra did fine in 24 hours nurburgring.

[@anthonyscott5484]

​@@jeffreycheng5984😂 bet you thinking the theta engine in the N's are the same as your unreliable base model. Quit hating

[@ILoveTinfoilHats]

These engines are the #1 reason Hyundai has a bad name today. These things are literal garbage.

[@vaultofnoah3903]

Very informative, i figured whenever I turned the car off and I kept hearing something go that it was something for cooling, glad to know the answer! Great video!

[@n-power-automotive]

@@vaultofnoah3903 glad to help!

[@speedee7508]

great info, the Elantra N tops my next car purchase list, this allays some of my fears about Hyundai.

[@shooterzgetshot6686]

I got the 22 EN 6mt don’t be scared it’s a great car I just drove in heavy rain and it was gripping the floor great no slipping and it eats corners

[@matthewr.33]

The TCR Edition would be a dream for me.

[@jessicaphoenix1312]

@@shooterzgetshot6686 I loved my 2023 Elantra N. My only advice is if you buy new, make sure you feel comfortable with the service department at the dealership. The cars are great, but many of their service departments are awful.

[@Steelers1thegame]

20 VN at 94k. Just did hpfp and that made her feel brand new. Frequent oil changes and going above and beyond on upkeep help a ton. Hoping to get 125k on oem turbo and rest of engine

[@n-power-automotive]

@@Steelers1thegame that’s awesome. So you did the Sonata HPFP?

[@Steelers1thegame]

@n-power-automotive yup went with the shark racing kit. Best bang for buck, especially since there isn't really a full upgraded pump till SXTHs comes out

[@n-power-automotive]

@@Steelers1thegame Shark Racing is legit. I was going to order a HPFP from them if I decided to get a tune.

[@Steelers1thegame]

@n-power-automotive for sure plan on it. I think regardless hpfp will be a wear item as far as these cars are concerned. I have used amsoil upper cylinder lube since like 20k miles just to give it a chance. For sure got some power back across the entire rev range, not just top end in my case.

[@wiredspeaker5658]

I wish Hyundai would have implemented a functional hood vent. Seems like a fairly low cost way to cool the engine bay. Not to mention it would look bad ass.

[@n-power-automotive]

@@wiredspeaker5658 100% agree! There are aftermarket ones, but they don’t look great IMO.

[@Slow2.0Gdi]

Great video brother. I have a 2013 kia optima sxl with 109,000 and haven’t had any serious issues. Love the car and would never sell it unless big issues started

[@n-power-automotive]

@@Slow2.0Gdi thank you! Glad you’ve had good luck with your Optima. I loved the Optima’s design when they first came out. That was the very beginning of cutting edge design from Hyundai.

[@godzilla7391]

@Slow2.0Gdi My wife has a 2012 Kia Optima, right at 111k now, mainly because she works from home, and never drives it, but we've kept up with maintenence, and so far, so good. I also have a 3.8 Genesis coupe that I've put 144k on (lightly modded , headers , intake, exhaust), and also now have a 23 Elantra N. KDM brand has been good to us. I think maintenence is the key. I really think a lot of issues stem from the cars being so affordable, and may draw the wrong crowd, who neglect the maintenance. Just a opinion, as I'm sure quite a few keep up maintenence.

[@godzilla7391]

@Slow2.0Gdi My wife has a 2012 Kia Optima EX, and she has it up to 111k. She works from home though and doesn't drive it much. I keep up with the maintenance, and I think most cars will last you a while as long as you maintain them. I also have a Genesis coupe 3.8 that I've got up to 144k, almost 145, and its been great. I had it walnut blasted at 100k , to clean the carbon out, flushed the radiator, and replaced the Injectors. Figured since we were already in there we might as well. I added a new Elantra N about a year and a half ago, and its now at 11k. House is KDM all day baby! 😆

[@Overboostgarage]

As someone who has owned 3 Genesis coupes and currently own a fully built big turbo Genesis coupe and a Veloster N as a daily I agree with your sentiments on this subject at the end of the day this engine is a Theta II yes it different in key areas as you stated but if you ever see one disassembled side by side you would agree. I would say the early theta II from the Genesis coupe is closer related to the 4b11T than the current version. The 4b11 main journals are larger and they have 4bolt main design which is far superior.

[@n-power-automotive]

@@Overboostgarage yeah that would make sense that the earlier version of the Theta 2 more closely relates to the 4B11T. I didn’t realize the 4B11T had 4 bolt mains. Makes sense why they can handle so much boost.

[@godzilla7391]

I 💯 agree with you on the oil changes. I change mine at around 3k. I'd rather be safe than sorry. Direct injection can cause so much carbon buildup, even more so on a Turbo car. I had my BK2 Genesis coupe 3.8 walnut blasted at 100k, and it wasn't the worst looking, but you could see all the carbon buildup on the valves, and now she's clean , and just hit 144k. I also went ahead and flushed radiator, switched out injectors, and did the usual coil packs, and plugs too. My Elantra N is now at 11k. Bought it new about a year and a half ago. Reason why I change my oil myself is ive had the wrong oil put in twice. Once at Jiffy Lube, and the second time at the Hyundai dealership! The dealership put 0w20 in it! The manual and the cap clearly states otherwise, so I drained, and put the correct oil in it. Maybe it isn't that big of a deal, but I don't want that warranty to be voided

[@n-power-automotive]

@@godzilla7391 one of my most watched videos is my first experience at the Hyundai dealership when they put in 0W-20 and refuses to correct it. I did the same thing, drained it and refilled with 0W-30 when I got home. That was the one and only time I brought the car in for service. I’ve been doing my own oil changes since then.

[@godzilla7391]

@n-power-automotive Crazy. I don't want any reason for them to decline any possibility warranty claims. I kept the invoice showing the 0w20, and the change sticker on the windshield showing 0w20. You think of all people the dealership, who the car is manufactured by, would know what oil to put in. I'm almost wondering if they thought it was a standard Elantra, and not a Elantra N

[@n-power-automotive]

@@godzilla7391 yes that’s exactly what happens. In their computer system they either have the Elantra N grouped in with the N Line or service looks up the N Line instead of the N. It’s extremely frustrating. If the car wasn’t so good I’d have completely lost faith in Hyundai.

[@Jcastro9444]

76,000 miles on my daily driver Elantra N DCT and not single issue just keep up with regular maintenance nothing fancy. Id definitely recommended, they did the EN right

[@n-power-automotive]

@@Jcastro9444 that’s awesome!

[@riccitone]

This is both informative and validating for this uniquely designed marvel (considering the relative price to performance). Very comprehensive…Thank you for getting into the weeds!

[@n-power-automotive]

@@riccitone thank you! 🙏🏻

[@r3games1985]

At this point in time the car is really dialed in.

[@sostoaked]

Super informative video for a Hyundai/Elantra N noob. Subscribed!

[@n-power-automotive]

@@sostoaked thank you!

[@dustyveilplays]

I have a theta ii turbo and it's great. 160k miles most fun I have had with a 4-cylinder.

[@wiredspeaker5658]

Wow. Which Hyundai model do you have?

[@cindysue5474]

Great info had my Gencoupe to 150K but traded for the 2022 Kona N besides the recalls had an injector go bad but was covered with no hassle.

[@n-power-automotive]

@@cindysue5474 the Gen coupe was such a cool car. My buddy still has a 3.8 R Spec.

[@cindysue5474]

@@n-power-automotive That would be a seller if they did a 2 door coupe again but maybe the insurance would be to high.

[@godzilla7391]

@cindysue5474 Got my Genesis 3.8 bk2 up to 144 , almost 145 currently. Still going strong with light mods. I just keep up with the maintenance

[@cindysue5474]

Forgot to add the horns were replaced and went bad again going in Monday to check them out.

[@Krissyfoxtrot]

Had my 2011 Sonata 2.0T replaced last year free of charge with 140 000kms. 155 000kms now with no issues..T.

[@klasseact6663]

I had the trans recall done, no problems before and none since pertaining to that📣

[@banstaman]

It is worth noting that the Theta II had factory-cracked connecting rods [at least for the YF Sonatas, anyway] and while Hyundai and all journals just say metal manufacturing debris, they don't mention from which components-they originate. So it makes you curious if it came from the connecting rods and if they still use that in the Elantra & Kona N which would benefit most from cracked/split rods.

[@n-power-automotive]

@@banstaman interesting. I’ll have to dig into that info to see what I can find.

[@DIESTAR2010]

I have a bk1 genesis coupe with 153k miles and it still runs like a dream no issues and she always gets oil changes ever 5k miles with the best oil you can get

[@n-power-automotive]

@@DIESTAR2010 very nice! 👊🏻

[@antoinelee-thomas9536]

This is likely the end of the 2.0T in the Elantra N because it is the last car to have it. It is been talked about for a couple of years before Albert Biermann left the Chief Engineer spot of the N Division before he moved up into a higher ranking position in Hyundai's N Division that the 2.5T was going to be the engine in the next generation Elantra N. The 2.0T has been in the departed gen Veloster N, last generation Kona N, and now, the Elantra N's current gen and possible final model year. All of the other cars in Kia's/Hyundai's/Genesis's lineup; the K5 GT, Sonata N-Line/G70 2.5T and others in the automotive group's portfolio have that engine and it's time for the Elantra N and take its place with the new engine. It already makes 290hp and 310lb-ft in the K5 GT and Sonata N-Line and 300hp and 311lb-ft in the G70 2.5T. Hyundai's N Division can keep using the 2.0T engine for their TCR car to race since the 2.5T is not eligible to be used in the TCR class unless they step into another class of racing with the bigger engine, but that 2.0T is going to be retired for road production cars because it does not make financial sense to keep using an engine that's outdated when the upgraded 2.5T engine brings out even better performance. All I care about is that when the next gen Elantra N 2.5T comes, the manual transmission comes along with it.

[@n-power-automotive]

@@antoinelee-thomas9536 I’d love to see the 2.5T in the next gen Elantra N, but I just have this feeling it won’t happen, but time will tell.

[@wiredspeaker5658]

With EVs and hybrids prematurely truncating piston power, it seems doubtful that a 2.5 will come. Shit we'll be lucky if this car ,with minor changes, is even being sold two years from now. Times are changing way too fast.

[@nah3193]

The 2.5T has great torque but the powerband and redline are super low and it really dies off before redline, very boring motor imo. But I'm down to see a more aggressively tuned version with pops and burbles lol

[@n-power-automotive]

@ that was my experience test driving the Sonata N Line.

[@brokeboy87]

This is a very informative video.

[@AlanBarratt802Vt]

Love the N platform fun car to ride around in had 19 base N now have 2020 performance

[@n-power-automotive]

@@AlanBarratt802Vt fun is the optimal word to describe the N cars!

[@AlanBarratt802Vt]

@@n-power-automotive deff is the 19 was stage 3 hate using stages but easier to explain n75 tuned w single exit gready it sounded awesome

[@Thewickedjon]

I have an elantra gt ( i30) with the 1.6L turbo, manual transmission, and I love it. Its been a great little car and with the catback exhaust and BOV makes all sorts of cool noises. Prior to that I had a 2004 hyundai tiburon gt (the v6 model with the manual) for a very long time. I took good care of it, and it never failed me. Hyundai gets a lot of hate but imo they make good, affordable cars., that in some cases are really fun to drive.

[@n-power-automotive]

@@Thewickedjon that’s great! I do believe the vast majority of issues come down to poor maintenance. If you take care of them they should run just fine.

[@aussiefurbymogwaifan6621]

Silly question, is the nline? Since it seems their orther hatch and sedan models with the turbo (1.5 - which I've seen some people say isn't deserving of the nline badge, the 1.6 and 2.5) engines below the current 2.0 full N, only come in nline trim. Suvs are the only models where the 1.6 is in non nline models

[@Thewickedjon]

@@aussiefurbymogwaifan6621 back in 2018 the "n-line" or "n" branding was not a thing. Back then it was known as the "sport" The specific model is the Hyundai Elantra GT sport (1.6L Turbo) Also known in europe as the Hyundai i30 1.6L Turbo "petrol" Later in it's lifetime, there was a special edition of the same vehicle with the theta II engine , as mentioned on this video. That was the FIRST "N" vehicle in hyundai's arsenal, but it was never released in the U,S N-line cars nowadays usually have the same 1.6L turbo, N cars usually have the 2.0L turbo (as of 2024 ) hope this info helps

[@aussiefurbymogwaifan6621]

@Thewickedjon yeah, I know the sedan has the 1.6 (it would be weird if the nline was missing the turbo) and don't forget the sonata nline with the 2.5. In Australia the i30 with the turbo was called an "sr" and the same with the veloster turbo, as was under the sr brand. Sr is I think what hyundai's sporty division was before they had to rebrand into N - sr only existed in Australia. I'll never understand why people think the nline is just a body style tbh

[@aussiefurbymogwaifan6621]

Your back!

[@molla2002]

Love your videos. I would instantly join membership if you ever decide

[@n-power-automotive]

@@molla2002 thank you!! 🙏🏻

[@jacklanuza7841]

Cheers for the informative video. I would like to ask what engine oil you run? Additionally, is there a significant change in using 5W-30 over 0W-30 engine oils?

[@cindysue5474]

Living in Arizona I run 5W30 because it can get to 118 degrees outside on a summer day. I run Redline high-performance oil with the blue label bottle.

[@n-power-automotive]

@@jacklanuza7841 I run Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy. It meets all the requirements from Hyundai and it’s readily available at Walmart. If you live in a warmer climate you can run 5W-30 and you’ll be fine.

[@BicBappy-u9o]

Use the oil that Hyundai says to use in the owner's manual

[@n-power-automotive]

@ good advice

[@RoxUnlimited]

Great video as always. I sent a message on Reddit with a question about swapping the leather shift knob onto the Alcantara boot. I’ve tried pressing in the locking pins but it doesn’t seem to want to move still. Any tips on how you managed to do the swap?

[@PeterHernandez-lg2eh]

May get one, although I'm up in age. 71 retired lineman diyer with a 2006 Subaru sti and a98 Honda prelude

[@n-power-automotive]

@@PeterHernandez-lg2eh age is just a number, right? I’m 47 and I feel like most Elantra N owners are 20 years younger than I am, but I’m still a big kid at heart.

[@RickStein-i9o]

​@@n-power-automotiveYou look like you keep yourself pretty fit man, it is just a number same with me 43 still a big kid sometimes hahaha Good video

[@n-power-automotive]

@@RickStein-i9o thanks, I do try. I’m just getting over hip bursitis though, so in some ways my age is catching up to me ha ha.

[@jeremyburleson6329]

Get a GR86 RWD is way more fun

[@jfernsten]

I have one of the first 4000 Elantra N's made. My biggest issue has been the knock sensor, currently on my third one. Nervous every time I go through the car wash. But, the code is for power train, so it's on Hyundai's dime until 2032.

[@n-power-automotive]

@@jfernsten I know what you mean! I have avoided car washes since I saw that issue popping up with people. I just brace the cold and do it at home.

[@wiredspeaker5658]

Are the first 4000 units the ones with the problem that you've heard?

[@jfernsten]

@wiredspeaker5658 I've heard this problem from a number of owners (and experienced it myself), some mentioned higher VINs than mine. I just happen to have #4498; the VINs started at 1000.

[@wiredspeaker5658]

@@jfernsten sadly seems like a fix that needs a permanent solution from Hyundai and a recall action

[@jahmarimartin2333]

at 2:40 it was 2010-2013 Sonata models our car was affected by this recall that's how I know.

[@jfernsten]

Yep. My 2013 Sonata is getting a brand new engine at 80K miles, free of charge; it blew up October 4, we've had loaners since then. At this point, if the transmission goes, I may pony up for a replacement given we'll have a new motor.

[@opadilla123]

Im at 15,000 miles ive never had any problems with my 22 elantra N only thing ive noticed is when i turn it of the electric water pump makes a noise but always works so i know its doing its job of cooling the vital parts

[@BicBappy-u9o]

15k miles isn't indicative of reliability in any car. Not saying that as a bad thing, just facts. Make sure you stick to the maintainece schedule (ideally even before) and you'll be fine

[@n-power-automotive]

@@opadilla123 what you’re hearing is the auxiliary coolant pump circulating coolant through the turbo after the car is shut off to help it cool down and prevent oil caking. It’s supposed to do that!

[@HiFiInsider]

how does one identify the engine type when shopping for a new car?

[@youcangetsum6871]

Seen one Veloster n that’s almost at 200k no issues mines has 134k miles only problem so far was the hpfp

[@n-power-automotive]

@@youcangetsum6871 nice! Their HPFPs are very inconsistent.

[@jeremyburleson6329]

Laughs in Lexus

[@PlaAwa]

and all they needed to do was change one part of the manufacturing process

[@ngrinshift4383]

Tiger Shark, 4b11t and Theta version 1 and 2 were all part of the "world engine" as you stated. Early Theta engines had fully hydraulic engine timing via valve actuation. Later version switched to electronically controlled intake valve timing, while retaining hydraulic valve actuation. Revisions have been made, as auto companies do, but the Elantra N engine can draw a line back directly to the "world engine". Problems still plague this engine from fuel system issues to transmission issues to this day. The types of problems have shifted, but they are still somewhat common. I work on these engines regularly and am very familiar with them. Any questions please ask.

[@ferasalbinmohamed1029]

So is the Elantra N engine good or bad?

[@Thewickedjon]

question, does the BK2 hyundai genesis (2013 up, a.k.a the "revised" model) have a hydraulic intake valve actuator? or is it electric? I do know the bk2 genesis has increased horsepower over the bk1. What other differences are there between them? (specifically talking about the 4 cylinder turbo model,)

[@ianweiner8430]

@@Thewickedjonif I remember correctly the only difference between BK1 and BK2 Turbo cars was the turbo but I also haven’t dug into them all too much

[@n-power-automotive]

@@ngrinshift4383 thanks for the info. I do know about the injector and high pressure fuel pump issues, but the main point of the video was to address the reliability concerns related to the original Theta 2 engine, which the Elantra N, Kona N and Veloster N do not suffer from. As far as transmission issues, that’s news to me. There of course are DCT issues and failures that happen, but nothing widespread that I know of. And no offense, but I’ve had comments before from people claiming “to work on these engines all the time” and throw out complete nonsense statements about N engines blowing on a regular basis and other untrue stuff, so I take that with a grain of salt.

[@BicBappy-u9o]

The 2.0L Theta II engine never had major issues. The one that everyone knows was the 2.4L Theta 2

[@n-power-automotive]

@@BicBappy-u9o interesting. Everything I’m seeing says both the 2.0 and 2.4 Theta 2 had the same oiling issues.

[@NathanRobinson-yn7cm]

Thank you

[@DarkSkillchain]

They said the sales wasn’t high enough supposedly an the Kona N so they decided to to stick with Elantra N sells more due to more history than the volester N an Kona N they might bring it back for rallying maybe but the rm20 N looks like amazing was wishing that was going be the new volester

[@peterbiviano747]

So the i30n hatch 2024 FL auto have exactly same engine

[@n-power-automotive]

@@peterbiviano747 yes they’re the same engine.

[@peterbiviano747]

This or civic type R

[@n-power-automotive]

@@peterbiviano747 both great cars. The Elantra N is a lot less expensive and has an automatic option, and a sunroof, so it was an easy choice for me.

[@luisarreguin2202]

Thanks for the info. So far no issues on my 2023 N that I’ve already had for 1 year. But I also only have 6200 miles on it😂. Yes I drive it every day. Question. You still plan on tuning your N?

[@n-power-automotive]

@@luisarreguin2202 I’m still debating a tune. I go back and forth on it. The car is so good as is why mess with a good thing, but I am a car guy so of course I want more power lol.

[@BicBappy-u9o]

​@@n-power-automotiveTunes are cool, but they defeat the purpose of Hyundai's 10 year warranty. Hyundai is notorious for finding any reason to deny a warranty. I am keeping my Kia stock, at least until the warranty ends.

[@Duran762]

Damn i only had it for a year also 2023 and i got over 20k miles

[@ng1-studio359]

The theta 2 still is a good architecture ( huyndai fuck it up the first few year for some reasons ) for making power than the smartstream. That's why they still used it even though it's had bad reputation before. That's there best shot

[@re-dx3pc]

So it's absurd how Hyundai in Kia do things but I think anything under Albert Biermann the horsepower number is to the wheels so I have the 22 Kia Stinger scorpion Edition my previous car was a 2010 all-wheel drive TL which had 305 horsepower I would keep saying everybody there was no way this car has 60 more horsepower then when I found out that that number is to the wheels that made more sense and I believe the all-wheel drive version which I have has 410 horsepower at the crank but just like the advertising and everything for the Stinger was horrible will you make such an amazing vehicle and don't advertise it properly and now it's gone

[@n-power-automotive]

@@re-dx3pc yeah I’m not sure why they downplay the actual horsepower, but BMW does the same exact thing.

[@38tech]

As a Hyundai enthusiasts (for like 20yrs or so and has a Hyundai tech) you got maybe a 1/3 of the info. Lol there is just too much to correct/add. And it's just a "turbo timer"

[@stevenweiss2148]

Dont forget owner abuse

[@n-power-automotive]

@@stevenweiss2148 excellent point! I wish I had included that!

[@strangeskull]

Man oh man….you have no idea what you are talking about in regards to the “N” motor being different…..so much in fact that that veloster motor is actually caught up in the infamous recall …..all the fwd cars with the 2.4 and 2.0 T and some na 2.0 are in the recall ….ive worked at Hyundai for over a decade and Hyundai didn’t change anything till the new 2.5 motors

[@andyvecchiarelli2998]

honda ftw

[@smitdizz420]

You bought it in automatic???? I’m dead. You want a sippy cup too? Are you a real enthusiast are a pretender?

[@n-power-automotive]

@@smitdizz420 🤣 ✌🏻

[@DIESTAR2010]

Oh god kid get over yourself

[@jeremyhenry3126]

No. It's not. The N has it's own engine. Theta II - i which is NOT the regular Theta II which is in all the non N versions.

[@n-power-automotive]

@@jeremyhenry3126 right. Did you actually watch the video? Because that’s exactly what I explain.

[@BicBappy-u9o]

It is a Theta 2 engine. But the 2.0L was never the engine that had problems. The reliability issues were with the 2.4L Theta 2 engine

[@nerdneckbrodski731]

​​@@BicBappy-u9o that's not true at all. Not sure where you got that information. It actually pisses me tf off that u say that because I was a victim to a bad theta II 2 Liter.... 2013 BK2 Genesis coupe 2.0T. Engine blew head gasket and started knocking at 70k miles. Every single theta II. Every single one of them had the chance of being fucked

[@nerdneckbrodski731]

​@@BicBappy-u9othats not true at all. No clue where you pulled that bs information from. I have experienced a bad Theta II 2.0L

[@jeremyhenry3126]

@@BicBappy-u9o It is the theta 2. It is not the Theta 2 you suggest it is. They're not the same. Look it up. It's like trying to call an apple an orange.

[@kenkozawa9810]

My friend and his brother both had their thetas fail at relatively low miles (sonata & forte)..good luck to N owners..I got 15k so far on my GRC 😅

[@thedragon6499]

If you watched the video and read previous comments, you would know best to think before posting, but you do you. The GRC is an ugly hatch. Could have gotten a CTR 😂

[@kenkozawa9810]

@@thedragon6499 because it is a "different" theta engine? And wow, talk about butthurt random. Also if you need to know, I found last gen CTR garish and current gen boring and way overpriced. My black GRC looks awesome thanks, my 15 year old son loves it that's all that matters. I have also taken my GRC off road in the AZ desert several times, the awd system has merit.

[@itsmarco5452]

I have 34k miles on my 2022 Elantra N and haven’t had any issues whatsoever

[@thedragon6499]

@kenkozawa9810 the engine is so "bad" in the N, that the Theta II i engine that was souped up in the TCR edition to 350 horsepower, won numerous TCR championships in which Honda and Toyota participate in as well, and it was built to even endure the 24 hours LeMans. The GRC at its price point does not make it a better purchase over the CTR, which looks good in red over championship white. Black is a horrible color in the summer for heat dissipation. I won't say anything about scratches and swirls because I'd expect anybody to fully wrap their car with PPF, regardless of the color.

[@kenkozawa9810]

@@thedragon6499 thanks for all your random drivel. Enjoy!

[@djardy07]

So slow lol

[@DarkSkillchain]

They said the sales wasn’t high enough supposedly an the Kona N so they decided to to stick with Elantra N sells more due to more history than the volester N an Kona N they might bring it back for rallying maybe but the rm20 N looks like amazing was wishing that was going be the new volester

[@n-power-automotive]

@@DarkSkillchain I wish they had kept the Kona N.