Finally, a video that I feel is as brutally honest as I am. So many reviews feel like they are afraid to anger the manufactures. Very helpful, now I am waiting to see what the Samsung can do. Sub’ed
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I know Ecovacs will hate me once they realize I exist, but the truth must be known! :P
@bergerliron3 жыл бұрын
This was so good and helpful! I was thinking about those two, and knowing my sofa has a 10 cm space under it, and that the Roborock doesn’t take less than 15cm spaces very well, I wasn’t sure about the T8. You made me feel now very comfortable with the T8, and I have to say that was the best video I’ve seen up to this moment. Thank you so much!
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! With the T8, save yourself a lot of trouble and set you cleaning schedules to do one room at a time (so that it can return to the bin each time).
@dhservers3 жыл бұрын
Most other reviewers sing the praises of these robot vacuums but you are fair in both your pros and cons. I just bought the T8 AIVI and while does a good job, the app is terrible. The programmer should be fired for the bugs--he must be a member of the family. I have 30 days to decide if I'm keeping it or not. Thank you!
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
Bruce, I have great news for you, and I'm uploading a video about this as we speak. They actually did it. They fixed the biggest bugs in the app! It no longer wipes out room labels or turns whole sections of you map into null zones if you close a door! I know, I can't believe it either. I feel like it's my birthday! Stay tuned for that video, and thank you for the kind words!
@jw17313 жыл бұрын
5:15 "looks like my work here is done" *glides away with swagger*
@EnkhturDamdinjav3 жыл бұрын
I just bought Ecovacs T8 AIVI a few days ago and must say I'm not disappointed. I don't have carpets, in my case it's doing a perfect job vacuuming and mopping all floors. A life saver!
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you like it! Let me know when it torpedoes all of your room labels. :P
@emilyrunia26263 жыл бұрын
Husband just got me the T8 for mother's day. Soooo excited. Thanks for the in depth review!
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
Congrats, it's a great robot! Here's a pro tip...if you don't plan to use google home or alexa with this robot, don't name your rooms. Leave them the default A, B, C, etc. You will have a much more pleasant user experience.
@emilyrunia26263 жыл бұрын
@@MrRoombato thanks so much! We don't use Alexa so, good to know. But we want to use it on the second floor of our home as well, do you know if we can map a second level?
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
@@emilyrunia2626 Yes, you can. It can store two maps, last I checked. Each floor is one map.
@fingermeslowly84263 жыл бұрын
Just got to say, I love this vid. Was always looking for the comparing the T8
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Agoncor2 жыл бұрын
I own 2 ecovacs T8 and they have never worked well. They make a disastrous effort in navigation and mapping. I decided to give them away and get new roomba j7+ which is amazing at maping and obstacle avoidance. IMPORTANT: the T8 tangled in absolutely everything, never went back to the docking station. I was their betch.
@michaeltechreviews53903 жыл бұрын
Nice comparaison. I subscribed!🔥
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ModernCollector3 жыл бұрын
This video was great! Thank you for taking the time. I’m purchasing the T8 AIVI from Costco and hope that it performs well. If not, at least I know they have a good return policy.
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
You will love the T8 AIVI...if you can put up with the buggy app and the occasional navigation glitches. I have been putting up with it for months and even though I sometimes want to chuck it out the window, it is still my favorite robot. If you decide to keep it, you should get the pro mopping attachment. It’s great and cleans very well.
@ivan.aguilera3 жыл бұрын
how did it go?
@kristinekerr36883 жыл бұрын
How do you like it? Would you recommend it?
@ModernCollector3 жыл бұрын
@@kristinekerr3688 It’s great so far! No complaints from me. I haven’t had any mapping or navigation issues. The auto empty station is amazing. It vacuums for me and I don’t even need to do a thing - the app notifies me when it’s starting its cleaning cycle and when it ends. The only issues I’ve had are sometimes it gets stuck on things but the app lets me know that it’s stuck which is convenient. Being able to tell it to clean certain zones via Alexa is a nice feature as well. I also followed Mr. Roombato’s suggestion and bought the Pro Mop. It’s definitely better than the regular mop attachment but it’s not life-changing like the vacuum itself - more for maintenance mopping and not deep cleaning. I’ve purchased a bunch of cleaning pads and auto-empty bags from AliExpress - cheaper and essentially the same quality as from Deebot for a fraction of the price. Hope that helps. Please let me know if you have any other questions.
@saurabhsrivastava20862 жыл бұрын
@@ModernCollector How much was it in costco?
@fernandomolina35403 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. I think I am going to wait until the new samsung vacuum comes out or until I hear that the T8 AIVI app got better.
@alexanderalsen46633 жыл бұрын
What samsung vacuum?
@lexisharrison78993 жыл бұрын
The Samsung looks to be pretty nice but it doesn’t have the mop feature, correct?
@Phantomthecat3 жыл бұрын
Great video. 👍. I think the T8 ran over the poop when it was returning to the charger after cleaning - ours seems to go brain dead when it’s finished a clean and it doesn’t seem to use it’s map to go home, but just sort of bumbles back in the right direction and ploughs into pretty much everything on its way home like a drunk. Love it overall though. The dustbin emptying issue with the pet hair is easy to overcome as well by blocking one of the ports, but it’s a bad design trying to empty from both sides at once.
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
I actually have a video about covering one of the ports. But it didn’t work for me when shedding season started. The solution was to schedule one room at a time so that it would return to the bin after each one.
@behnamyami61182 жыл бұрын
Very informative and engaging video to watch, love your jokes man!
@aary91763 жыл бұрын
Great job. Roborock is supposed to be getting auto emptying bin this year
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
Yes, they are. Unfortunately it won't be compatible with the "older" models like the S6 MaxV.
@pauljorgeguerreirocoelho783 жыл бұрын
the best video i have seen, realistic.
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@mayur6193 жыл бұрын
For the hard floors, from personal experience, it is better to run the t8 aivi at standard or even quiet mode(2 passes required in quiet) for better cleaning than using at full power.
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
Depends on the mess. Flour (or other fine stuff) is better with full suction, but most things? Yes. I’ve never found any advantage in full suction for typical messes.
@felinequeen92433 жыл бұрын
DO NOT ever buy a Roborock unless you want to be stuck with useless junks after just one or two years! The Roborock might be a good vacuum in terms of its functionality and features, but it has an extremely horrible and almost non-existent warranty. I have a Xiaomi that I bought about 2 years ago. It was working great keeping my whole house clean. Our whole family loved it. All of sudden, it started to have Error 13 and stopped being fully charged. So I decided to contact the Xiaomi support. They first made the pretense of checking if it was a problem with the charging contacts, making you take ten thousand photos to email them and then finally decided that it was the problem with the robot itself. And then they just toss you off to the dealer that you bought the unit from and have nothing to do with you. It was a dealer on eBay that I bought it from who is located all the way in Beijing and had no English support and according to my research was even fined for having falsified information. I contacted them several times via numerous phone calls, emails to both the dealer and Xiaomi support itself and no avail. They have stopped responding to my emails and refusing to speak with me. I have spent $600+ on the robotic cleaner and just after 2 years, it's now useless junk. And this is Roborock's strategy. They would rather spend $$ on people to promote their products (and this is why you see roborock reviewers popping up everywhere on KZbin) than on after-sale support because they know their product is crap and they want to make you keep spending money to buy their products and that's how they make money. If they built a reliable product that never breaks and with excellent after-sale support that are ready to repair and replace the product for you throughout its life, then they will never make money. It's not enough that they force you to keep buying their accessories by giving you those indications on the robot to constantly tell you how badly you need to replace them no they have to make faulty products to force you to buy new one. Yeah I will buy new ones all right, but it won't be another Xiaomi or Roborock that's for sure. And this is truly Buyer Be Aware. This is what you can get from buying Chinese products in general. Fancy product but no support. And not to mention that they keep all of your private data down to the username, password and MAC address of your wireless modem, the floorplan, layout and square footage of your home on their server permanently.
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry you had that experience. I've never had anyone tell me this about Roborock before. My own experience with their customer service was excellent. I called them on Christmas Day, and they picked up and helped me. Are you perhaps outside the United States? Maybe they have different support centers for different countries, and some of them suck?
@felinequeen92433 жыл бұрын
@@MrRoombato Yeah they responded to my emails promptly as well. That's not the issue. The issue is them ditching me to the dealer once they found out it's my machine's problem that's not charging properly by telling me to contact my dealer claiming that it's the dealer that services my warranty but the dealer doesn't even have any English support and they never answered my phone calls or emails, not even once. And when I went back to Xiaomi, they never wanted to have anything to do with me anymore. They are not even answering my phone calls, or emails or nothing just basically leaving me with an useless junk. I have never encountered this ever with any products that I have bought before and before I bought my Roborock, nobody told me this either. All the videos that I saw were all about how great it works, how it vacuums the floor so well and all the exciting features. Nobody told me that it's only great when it works and when it doesn't, nobody is there to help you and all the money that you spent is gone. So I hope your Xiaomi or Roborock would last you longer but should anything happens, this is what could happen to you.
@felinequeen92433 жыл бұрын
I understand you must be paid handsomely by Xiaomi or Roborock to promote their products. This is obviously how Xiaomi and Roborock choose to spend their money. Instead of spending it on after-sale product support and warranty repair/replacement, they decide to pay people to promote their products. It's great you are earning some extra cash to help you out and your family, but you need to be aware this is what can happen with their products and people should be aware of this so they can have a sense of the real cost of purchasing a Xiaomi/Roborock. Do a simple google research and you will find out Error 13 with Roborock products is a real, serious and quite a common issue and neither Xiaomi nor Roborock is doing anything about it.
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
@@felinequeen9243 Thank you for sharing your experiences.
@jordanparmer72213 жыл бұрын
Glad to know what vacuum will pick up my oregano messes 😂😂
@ankurnits13 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your efforts man. 👍
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@joeyanderson66602 жыл бұрын
I subscribed, if u can make more of these with kinds of robots and security Electronics it would be a hit 😉
@nextknife2373 жыл бұрын
God if reviews! Thank you!
@glennsiegel603 жыл бұрын
great video/information! I'd like to see you do a review of the ecovacs N8!
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And..here you go: the N8 is a budget version of the T8 that is nearly identical except for a substantially weaker battery.
@glennsiegel603 жыл бұрын
@@MrRoombato I'd think that would be an advantage as it would go back sooner and empty the bin. I have long hair cats!
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
@@glennsiegel60 That’s…actually a good point! :)
@jacekczerwinski15953 жыл бұрын
Very interesting review and comparison. Thanks!
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@AlexandrSKYTRASH2 жыл бұрын
Рow do you use camera on Ecovacs?? how to use it? I hane N8 pro +, with the same features (camera + additional lasers)
@MrRoombato2 жыл бұрын
I don't think the N8 Pro + has a camera. It uses lasers for object avoidance.
@de_stroyed2 жыл бұрын
Do you think a J9+, a flagship like to the J7+ from Roomba will be coming out in a year or so? I have my hopes up and really want something from them that has LiDAR alongside a camera built in.
@MrRoombato2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I anticipate that, but I'm afraid it will be camera based. The j7 is still just as blind and dumb as the i7 when it comes to mapping and navigation (from what I've managed to piece together, I refuse to buy one), it just has the added feature of object avoidance. If a t9 (s + 1 :) ) comes out and has lidar...that will be the most exciting product. Unless it also scratches the @#!@# out of floors, like the s9 does.
@johnjackson2893 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the helpful vid. Great work.
@TP-zz6ud2 жыл бұрын
The Mandalorian made my day
@wisewillow57313 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your excellent review 😊👍
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@akasya78493 жыл бұрын
İt is comparative study to show the differences. Maybe one more positive of deebot is that it is thinner than the Roboroc.
@jackoblaze43203 жыл бұрын
I think the t8 is good a learning what Obstacles are but are unable to remember where they were so when coming to the obstacle on an angle it can’t see it it will most likely run it over they should make some way for the robot to remember the obstacles location during its run
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
After doing a ton of these tests, I don’t see any evidence of any learning whatsoever from either of them. Doesn’t mean they aren’t doing it though. But if they are, they suck at it! :)
@pcbuilderlover42713 жыл бұрын
Great video, Thank you for making it!
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words! I'm glad you found it useful.
@DavidStanton3 жыл бұрын
Loved the video. I am about to purchase and this has helped a lot. I was also thinking about getting the auto empty station. Have you done any reviews on that?
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
Not that specifically, not yet. I can tell you it's a pretty good empty station. It does very well with all debris types except hair (in my case pet hair). The reason for that is, the hair tangles up into a solid clump, and since there are two extraction ports on either side of the bin, the suction is pulling at the hair clump from both sides. So in order for it to be emptied, the suction has to be strong enough to tear it in half, and it isn't. This is only a problem if you have a LOT of pet hair. So if you clean daily, for example, it would only affect the first day's hair clump. It's a very good bin though, and that's not enough of an issue to reconsider buying one. What IS an issue is the absurdly buggy app. It will drive you nuts. If you don't need AI, don't buy the T8. Buy a Neabot. If you don't need the auto empty station but need AI, buy a Roborock S6 MaxV.
@kristinekerr36883 жыл бұрын
@@MrRoombato Which Neabot do you recommend? I don’t need AI but i do appreciate the fact that the T8 can also mop. I am disabled so it pretty important for me to maintain floors in between maid services. I also have 2 cats. Thx so much for all the info you provide!! Today is also Prime Day so I’m feeling the pressure to get something on sale😩
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
@@kristinekerr3688 Sorry I replied too late for Prime Day, but I didn't see any sales on Ecovacs products, and the sales they had on robovacs weren't that great. You're confusing Neabot with Deebot...Deebot is Ecovacs, Neabot is a different company. None of the hybrid robots mop well, so if you just want an okay mop that you have to set up every time you use it, the T8 is your robot, but then you also have to buy the pro-mopping attachment. The stock mop only drags a wet pad around, lightly touching the floor. For the money you would spend on a T8 with auto-empty docking station and the pro-mop, I recommend a Neabot N1 and an iRobot Braava Jet M6 (or iLife W400 if you have room dividers that rise more than a few millimeters and the M6 would have problems crossing them). If you're set on Ecovacs, the regular T8 is fine. I'm not sure if the pro mop is available for the N8, but if it, you'll save some money there.
@mrlarskj3 жыл бұрын
Nice video, thanks for sharing. I am currently waiting to see how the new roborock s7 turns out. I would like to buy a second robot to go with my i7 since it takes several hours with charging inbetween to clean my house of 1800 sq ft / 165m2. The i7 is also quite loud and annoying when working from home. After seeing the roborock it also bathers me the way the i7 bumps into things instead of stopping before hitting the objects. (Benefit of this is however that it cleans under the couch when the couch has “curtains” between the floor and couch, something I guess the lidar based bots will not do) Do you think the new roborock s7 will be worth the wait and do you plan on reviewing it when it arrives?
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I don't know if I'll review the S7, to be honest. After owning AI robots I'm not particularly interested in "dumb" ones at the price the S7 is going to sell for with that bin. Also, those rubber brushes (like on your i7) will scratch your floor if they are dirty (I have a video about both the Roombas scratching floors and the S7's brush design potentially doing the same if you're interested). I don't want to have to clean brushes every few days, it kinda defeats the purpose of the auto-empty station. If I have to take the robot apart to do maintenance every few days, I may as well empty the bin! If you're looking for a robot to compliment your i7, I recommend the T8 (AIVI or regular) with the auto-empty bin. The only real downside is that the app is buggy, but it's not so buggy that you can't set it and forget it (schedule cleaning). I'm looking forward to the new Samsung AI robot, and that will be my priority as far as reviews. I am currently testing the Neabot, and I'll have a video about that soon, so that may be a low cost option. So far it seems to be a great robot for a fantastic price.
@-Tac0caT-3 жыл бұрын
nice video with descriptions, but if you keep a chart of all of them, I think your scoring needs work. For example, I would rather you give a 5 provided you vacuum during the day verus knocking off a point. Similar with mopping. Give it a 3 stock and 5 with attachment - a 4 is not correct for either. I would rather you give the exact quality score and add an adjustment with a comment. All the same, good to see the gripes.
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. All of these scores are always going to be somewhat arbitrary. I scored based on availability of options. For example, both robots have crappy stock mops. So 3 and 3. The T8 has an available mop that’s great (for a hybrid). That’s 5. But it doesn’t come with it. So 4. The availability of the better mop raises the score. Same thing with the auto empty bins. There will never be one for the S6 unless they pull some techno-magic trickery.
@transammatt3 жыл бұрын
Great video, and review. I’m really hoping iRobot has something coming out soon that will blow the ecovacs and roborock out of the water? What do you think?
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
Man, I hope so! But for that to happen, their CEO would have to get his head out of his but and start using LIDAR. And keep his camera, but put it in the front for AI. That would be really cool! Maybe they have something in the works, who knows.
@ChurchInAshes3 жыл бұрын
Does it beep or something when it's full or needs manual service? Does the phone app signal? Great review
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
Nope and nope. It has no way of knowing. I think the bin full sensor is patented, but apparently, Ecovacs and iRobot have entered into some sort of tech sharing agreement, so look forward to cool things to come.
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
Also, thank you! :)
@Sailor_Zeb2 жыл бұрын
Is the app for Ecovacs still as bad or have they made any improvements? I'm trying to pick a robot that vacuum, mops and avoid toys....
@MrRoombato2 жыл бұрын
It's much better. The issue is the self-empty dock. If you have pets, don't get it. If not, it's fine.
@mariaaustin16582 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see you do a review of the ecovacs N8!
@MrRoombato2 жыл бұрын
Okay! But just for you! :P The Ecovacs N8 is the Ecovacs T8 with a smaller battery, which makes very little difference to the robot's performance.
@pteodoro792 жыл бұрын
Is your opinion still the same since the release of your video? Has anything changed with the performance of the T8 Aivi? Would you still choose the T8 over the s6 maxv? Great video! I’m on the fence between the two. Thank you.
@MrRoombato2 жыл бұрын
Simple, don't get either of them. :) The S6 MaxV is a phenomenal robot (I don't have carpet so I don't know about the brush stoppage issues) but it has no auto empty dock, which is such a transformative feature that I don't even consider robots without them anymore. The T8 AIVI is probably the best robot built, hardware wise. The software is meh, but the auto-empty dock is terrible if you have pets with fur/hair. I stopped using my T8 and mothballed it because I got tired of empty in the bin every day when my dog is shedding (which is half the year). If you don't have pets, get the T8 because of the bin.
@pteodoro792 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@MrRoombato2 жыл бұрын
@@pteodoro79 You're welcome! Let me know what you end up getting.
@pteodoro792 жыл бұрын
@@MrRoombato I bought both to test. The T8 aivi with the bin was 599 at Costco. Figured nothing to lose since Costco has one of the best return policies. I am happy with the T8 so far.
@mindaugas19062 жыл бұрын
@@pteodoro79 and how is roborock 6 maxv?
@charlesvuotto54683 жыл бұрын
Among Roomba s9+, T8 and S6, which is best overall?
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
You just asked me, "Who is the best, Neil Armstrong, Albert Einstein or Earnest Hemmingway." :) The S9 is the best at actually cleaning, has the best app, is the worst at mapping and navigating and will severely scratch your floors. The T8 AIVI, assuming you have the auto-empty bin, is the best overall robot. Cleans really well, navigates really well (most of the time) and won't scratch your floors. It has an available mop that is actually not bad for a hybrid robot, but Its app is annoying and buggy, and its auto-empty bin sucks...but you can work with it. The S6...assuming you mean MaxV, is the best at everything except cleaning carpet, but has no auto-empty bin, so is out of the running unless you love emptying dust bins every day.
@charlesvuotto54683 жыл бұрын
@@MrRoombato Thanks! Much appreciated.
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
@@charlesvuotto5468 no problem!
@egesanli6193 жыл бұрын
12:08 lmao
@raheelmushtaque1268 Жыл бұрын
Ecovacs t8, is app's bugs fixed and navigation got better or not? is it same like it was 2 years ago? Is it worth buying in 2023? because roborock is not available in my country.
@MrRoombato Жыл бұрын
Don't know about the T8, but the X1 OMNI's software is good. It's mopping is meh, but otherwise it's a pretty great robot.
@you_whats3 жыл бұрын
Nice video! 👍
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@SmartRobotReviews3 жыл бұрын
Nice video thank you. Which one do you use in your home as the main robot vacuum?
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
I use all of my robots for something, but the main one is the T8 AIVI. It's the auto-empty docking station. I can't take any robot without one seriously. I don't want to have to empty a bin every day. It gets old fast. My 2nd "main" robot is the Neabot Nomo, which I'll be reviewing soon.
@monarennalls4603 жыл бұрын
@@MrRoombato I bought the Tu AIVI but I am a bit disappointed about the mopping result as it did not remove the stains and I can also see that the floor were rather dry than wet although I put it on the highest water flow in the app. I used the cleaning cloth which can be reused. But I had no cleaning product added as the manual speaks of adding water but no mention of a cleaning product. Do you think this is the reason why the mopping result was so poorly?
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
@@monarennalls460 Are you talking about the mop that comes with it or the pro mop (vibrating)?
@monarennalls4603 жыл бұрын
@@MrRoombato I think so, it was a separate water tank with a blue cloth which is reusable as I have to wash it after using it. And then with the machine itself was a water tank attached with white disposable cloths
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
@@monarennalls460 The stock mop isn’t very good, though you will get better results if you wet/saturate the pad before mopping, set it to deep scrubbing in the app and make 2 cleaning passes. If you want a better mop, get the pro-mopping attachment for 100 bucks. But even that can’t be as good as mopping by hand. Much better than the stock mop though.
@Hivydar3 жыл бұрын
What’s the another robot you were referring to, in the mopping section
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
That’s the iLife Shinebot W400. It’s a great little robot and only costs about 200 dollars. I have a full review of it on the channel. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nX3WfnWPhqilpaM
@Boris_Chang3 жыл бұрын
I really loved my Roborock M6-until one night (I scheduled it to run after I went to bed) one of the cats decided to poop on the floor. It not only spread it around, but ingested a lot. In my attempt to clean it up, I apparently got some water somewhere where it damaged some electronics. After that it seemed retarded. It would try to charge and then back up and try again multiple times and then announce an error - weak battery. But it stunk of poop. So I need to replace it. Does this M6 Max really avoid poop?
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
The S6 MaxV does, yes. Especially with the new update. That doesn't mean it's 100% reliable, but it's well above my expectations at this point.
@yodastarboii74963 жыл бұрын
I got issues with Ecovacs T8 AIVI. It's keeping lost their connection to the apps several times and i tried every single troubleshooting things but it still no hope until i delete and reset it again. Any clue?
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
If you delete and reset it keeps doing it? Other than unstable wifi in your home, I don't have the slightest idea. Possibly defective. Did you contact Ecovacs customer service?
@yodastarboii74963 жыл бұрын
@@MrRoombato I did repeat the reseting process again today, and it turned back with life again. But btw this issues happened more than 4 times after i purshased this bot. I don't really know what to do. PS my WiFi connection is very stable, at least for all another devices.
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
@@yodastarboii7496 It it can be so many different things...the best people to help you are Ecovacs customer service. Call them. Or chat with them in the app. They are generally pretty good.
@yodastarboii74963 жыл бұрын
@@MrRoombato Yeah, i'll try. Thanks mate!
@richardsmith11612 жыл бұрын
Thinking of adding a new member to my family. The T8 plus is on sale at BB for $449. Since you have pets (I have 4 dogs) Is this the way to go. My problem is sand and pet hair. Can't take Roomba's terrible navigation anymore. Mopping isn't important I have an M6 and Samsung Jetbot.
@MrRoombato2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely not. The T8 itself is a very good robot but the Ecovacs self empty bin is trash. It can’t handle even small amounts of pet hair. Trying to pull hair clumps out from both sides is the reason. The hair clumps together and the suction isn’t enough to tear it apart, so it just sits there. It’s the worst self empty bin on the market.
@richardsmith11612 жыл бұрын
@@MrRoombato You are correct and it's dumb. Turned around and went away from the base when going to recharge. I bought a $270 IHome Auto Vac Nova and it blows this away
@skat40353 жыл бұрын
100% the best 2 robots on the market....i have the Roborock s6 max v ...and it is top Nice ...after the last Update is it the King
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you like it. It's a very good robot, but the lack of auto-empty docking station limits its usefulness to me. I will be skipping the S7 and waiting for the S7 MaxV. That should be the ultimate robot, if they don't mess it up.
@skat40353 жыл бұрын
Yes you spot on the s7 max v is the one i Will look out for ....i love the live View that came in the last update on the s6 max ...I hope the s7 max v get cams it makes the 6s max v the stand out on navigation..and the app on Roborock is top nice
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
@@skat4035 What did the update change for you? I haven't noticed anything different.
@skat40353 жыл бұрын
The 01.56.90 vision is much better at object recognition and avoidance for me .... I have hardwood floors and it works great 👍
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
Ooh! I will have to run some new AI tests and that gives me content for a new video! Thank you!
@lirenjie19803 жыл бұрын
Nice review. Keep it up
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@joecox99582 жыл бұрын
how about S6 maxV vs S5 max? thanks!
@MrRoombato2 жыл бұрын
In one sense they are not really comparable as one is a flagship and the other is a midrange. The S5 is cheaper, has less suction and other minor deficiencies, most notably lack of AI and video features. On the other hand, both use the same app and do about the same job.
@coltonsvacuumcollection Жыл бұрын
Is the deebot t8 Aivi worth $300?
@MrRoombato Жыл бұрын
I suppose so.
@coltonsvacuumcollection Жыл бұрын
@@MrRoombato I was looking at it but found a good deal for x1 turbo and then I will eventually get it and then get the Omni dock for it
@frenky29a3 жыл бұрын
ignoring that shit decoy in pet mode off made my day :"-DDDDD +1
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
Since they updated their firmware, the Roborock is superb at avoiding poop, and it's now much better at that than the T8.
@wilsonmanch67733 жыл бұрын
AI nope.. waste of money... I am pretty sure it's not hard to use the camera (image) to calculate the size of the object and match it with the robot physical perimeter and then, writing program to nicely avoid that object. I can't understand why it can't be done. Half assed programming trying to make us buy more advanced features.
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
Yes that would be easy, however, they have to balance object avoidance with effective cleaning. If you write a bulletproof avoidance algorithm your vacuum will avoid large areas of your house and not do its job.
@grrahul3 жыл бұрын
Have you used the T8 AIVI on multiple floors? I bought mine mainly to use on my lower level and occassionally vacuum the upper level too but I'm losing my nerves on how often that screws up the map. This time, I've had to reset the entire darn thing and will have to go through the nightmare of mapping again. I have used multi floor maps and even reverted to storing a single map. I left the charging unit downstairs but as usual when I bring it back down and put it on the charging unit, it is not able to figure where it is and determines that it is a new environment and wants to start the mapping process again. For the price (AUD $1299), this is completely unacceptable. I've had so many other issues that I regret not returning the unit within amazon's 30-day return policy.
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
I have only ever used it on my main floor. I'm afraid. :) But...have you tried their new app? Mine updated about a week ago and since then it's been behaving a lot better.
@grrahul3 жыл бұрын
@@MrRoombato Yup, latest issue is after updating to the new app only. However, I don't thik all these issues are with the app. I think they are with the firmware of the robot itself as I think this information would be stored in the robot itself. Let me list out some of the issues I have been facing: 1) Sometimes when I have cleaned some areas (rather than a full clean), it would end up merging some of the areas (I have already faced issues with the labels being lost, something you've also faced) 2) Two times, this has happened, where it would just make endless small circles around 1 particular area. The only way to get it out would be to pause it and resume it or pick it up and move it. 3) It detects weird things like the base of a stand I have in my pantry as a power cord and then would avoid it (like the plague) by more than half a metre or so 4) At other times, it would run into shoes, etc. I've basically disabled AIVI as it seems to be completely useless and I anyway's tidy up the areas before running the robot 5) However. my biggest issue is with it losing the map when I take it upstairs. It is just unforgivable. There is no rational explanation that why it can't detect where it is when I bring it down stairs and put it on the charging dock (not that the dock is not moved at all).
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
@@grrahul I have had all of these same issues. Add to that random wandering yet showing exactly where it is on the map correctly, and bee-lining for a chair leg, cleaning around it, and calling it done for that room and moving on to the next. Are you following whatever dumb procedure Ecovacs laid out for moving it to a different floor? I can't be bothered to remember what it is, but they did tell me the right way to do it. Despite all that, I still love the thing, and it cleans every day.
@grrahul3 жыл бұрын
@@MrRoombato No, I'm not aware that there is actually a right way to do it. It's unfortunate that the thing is so lame that you need to follow things in a certain manner else disaster (as in map being lost) can strike. It also sucks that the map cannot be saved on your phone so one can easily restore it when disaster strikes. I do love it when I start it up and it cleans almost the entire floor (almost flawlessly) but then all these teething issues make me hate it due to the amount of money I paid for it. I wonder if roborock has any such issues.
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
@@grrahul Well, if it makes you feel better, every single robot vacuum I've ever owned (which is a lot at this point!) has some sort of really frustrating bugs. Even my beloved Neabot has some bugs. If you want an almost bug free app experience, you need a Roomba (i6/i7/i8 are the only ones I'd buy...on sale for 600 or less with auto-empty station).
@PurposeTravel3 жыл бұрын
"Most Advanced", but then I read the Amazon reviews. Yikes, not good.
@MrRoombato2 жыл бұрын
As I learned later...yeah.
@cgianni53 жыл бұрын
i own this robot T8. The port to auto-evacute the dust inside the bin is too small. Therefore, be prepared to empty the dustbin yourself EVERY TIME. Other then that, it works good. FAIL FAIL FAIL🤮😡
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
The only problem I've ever had with the dust bin emptying is when there are big clumps of dog hair that got tangled into one large clump. When it tries to suck these out from both sides, it is trying to tear the clump in half, and often fails. More frequent cleaning fixes this. Otherwise I had considered duct taping one of the ports closed. What sort of debris is yours leaving in the bin?
@Nick-we7lf3 жыл бұрын
Seems like the Roomba won !
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
Sure, until it comes to map, navigate or avoid objects! :)
@Nick-we7lf3 жыл бұрын
@@MrRoombato I think you are very wrong. My Roomba i7 outperformed the Ecovac which is why I sent it back to Amazon. It was horrible and kept getting stuck . iRobot may not be using LIDAR But at least they employ programmers that know how to code.
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
@@Nick-we7lf That’s very true. It’s why I still have and use my i7. I still have the Ecovacs too but I don’t use it anymore, because the auto empty station sucks. The problem is that VSLAM is terrible compared to LIDAR, and even great programmers can only do so much. Unfortunately there is no company that makes LIDAR navigating robots that is as thorough as iRobot. Even so, my “daily driver” currently is the Neabot Q11. It has its issues but like the i7, it just works. And unlike the i7, it’s precise and efficient. The i7 is still on active duty though. It cleans the area where my birdcages are five times a day, and it hasn’t hickuped even once. I am waiting for a LIDAR robot that’s as good as the i7, and I hope that day comes soon.
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
@@Nick-we7lf Also, regarding the comment you deleted, I have no reason to be biased. The only company that has sent me stuff for free is iLife and they aren’t yet in the same league as any of the robots we are discussing. Although the W450, despite its shortcomings, is the best straight up robot mop on the market. I have a video comparing it to the Brava jet m6 and the Narwal T10 coming soon. But because of its shortcomings, I don’t use it often.
@Nick-we7lf2 жыл бұрын
Talk all you want. I have owned the T8 and it performs horribly on multi surface homes. Your tests are either horribly wrong or horribly biased there is no in between. So pick one. And this is from an aerospace engineer so you know. What’s your credentials? KZbin expert???? HA !
@scarface113853 жыл бұрын
Is the t8 aivi works on night
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
It does, but the AI won't work because the camera needs light.
@scarface113853 жыл бұрын
@@MrRoombato dose it use laser at night like other ?
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
Yes. It will work perfectly well in complete darkness. The only thing that won't work is the AI/object recognition/avoidance.
@scarface113853 жыл бұрын
@@MrRoombato dose the app still have the problem when a door close the map will act up
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
@@scarface11385 No, they fixed that. It’s mostly when it finds something new that it acts up.
@barygol3 жыл бұрын
You should try Cecotec Conga 7090 IA
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen that for sale in the US.
@BackDaws3 жыл бұрын
wow ecovacs bashing even when it clearly beats the others in some tests 😂
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
They deserve it. Their robots are great but their app is trash. And while they have shown some interest in fixing it, they have failed to make any significant chances (I was overly optimistic with my "ecovacs fixed their biggest app bugs" video, as it turned out). It's slightly better trash now, but still trash. I hate their app with a passion. It's so disappointing, considering the quality of the robot itself, that it's kind of a tragedy. If Roborock can make a stable and mostly bug free app that just works without constant problems, then why can't Ecovacs? The only answer I can think of is that they don't care.
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
Also, the T8 AIVI did win this challenge, even with the crappy app. Although if I were to redo it today, with Roborock's AI firmware update, that would not be the case.
@sumitb2693 жыл бұрын
@@MrRoombato Need your expertise buying either one of these. Our house has tiles on lower floor and laminate wood on the upper. No carpets but will have a few rugs. Which one do you reckon considering the Roborock's AI firmware update? TIA
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
@@sumitb269 Well, it depends how much you value the auto-empty docking station. If you don't care, Roborock, no question. The T8 is great, but it's buggy. The navigation algorithm is dumb (it works well, mostly, but it often does very dumb things), the app destroys the map every time it finds something new (it used to do it every time you left a door closed but they fixed that), and the auto-empty bin is not that great. I have to manually empty it about once a week (it cleans every night). If you do care about the self emptying, and you don't feel like putting up with annoying quirks, I suggest waiting for either the Roborock S7 and it's auto-empty bin (or S7 MaxV or whatever they'll call that thing) or the Neabot Q11. I'm super excited about the Q11 and very mad at Neabot for not sending me a review sample. But I'll get over it. Maybe. :P
@sumitb2693 жыл бұрын
@@MrRoombato Neabot Q11 looks good! Unfortunately it does not mention shipping to Australia, so will have to skip that. And we rule out the T8. So it's either S7 or S6 MaxV. S6 MaxV is 15% cheaper than S7. Will wait for the S7 to get delivered. Hope it's worth the price.
@mutluiris25953 жыл бұрын
Worst robot that I have ever used and there is no international product support as a waranty. Even light after 3 months of light usage, you will have DToF laser malfunctioning error and there is no support for this. This is my regret to pay good amount of money while I had a lot of options i had this price range. I dont recommend at all
@MrRoombato3 жыл бұрын
Which one?
@mutluiris25953 жыл бұрын
@@MrRoombato Ecovacs T8 AIVI - Stay away from this brand