Its called loose shunting we used to do it with a train of 20 wagons with a 08 we controlled the train using Bell and whistle codes due not being able to see the drive, no radios then, at a place called Ickles sidings near Rotherham
@JimH243 ай бұрын
Interesting, thanks.
@andrewbrown67863 ай бұрын
Those were the days - thanks for the reminder 👍
@robertbate57903 ай бұрын
I was a shunter at Tyseley in the 70s, occasionally worked at Bordesley Down Side. We used to send 16 tonners of scrap to Ickles, and I think Deepcar and Riverside if I remember rightly.
@Steve.M3 ай бұрын
So when it says on the side of a wagon, “not to be hump or loose shunted”, this is what’s not to be done? What makes some wagons suitable and others not?
@robertbate57903 ай бұрын
@@Steve.M If a vehicle is restricted by such a notice, it must remain attached to the train until it comes to a stand, and hand brakes applied before detaching.
@RaisedLetter3 ай бұрын
At first I thought they were overtaking to get in front of it on the fly
@SquishyZoran3 ай бұрын
So did I!
@ellisjackson3362 ай бұрын
That would’ve been cold lol
@HylianDefender2 ай бұрын
That's an ES&D maneuver if I ever heard one
@sohamdhamnaskar83402 ай бұрын
Yeah I thought the same
@doctorelijah2 ай бұрын
same, ive done that before in roblox (only once or twice successfully) and id assume its very hard to do in real life the way it is in roblox
@heavyecho13 ай бұрын
Those Class 08s are the epitome of the little engine that could. That one is currently living its best life at the North York Moors railway.
@West_Coast_Gang2 ай бұрын
Glad the little guy is in a new home
@Caktusdud.2 ай бұрын
I thought I recognised it from somewhere
@newage33 ай бұрын
That was the best time to be a driver, I pass out in January 91 at Didcot and even then we had 3 pilot turns, 5 days a week, the night turn was brutal. The shutter looks like Jim McClarren who was a good old boy, knew his stuff….., those box wagons were for Russell’s coal, they came up from Radda and went to West Drayton along with loaded HEAs (the red hopper wagons) - God I miss those days so much.
@JimH243 ай бұрын
Great information, thanks!
@colin52963 ай бұрын
I hear that Brother .
@bmwtravel11003 ай бұрын
I thought you were going to show "dropping a car" whereby the car is acclerated toward a siding , uncoupled, then a switch is thrown just after the car passes. then the engine proceeds at speed down the main line, passes the car on the siding, and then rejoins the car's opposite end on the siding. it gets better when a brakeman has to ride the free-rolling car and stop it with the hand brake.
@cedarcam3 ай бұрын
At a factory near me they used to have wagons uncoupled behind the loco coming down a gradient, at the bottom the locomotive accelerated leaving the wagons behind the points were quickly changed onto another line. the locomotive quickly reversed the points were changed to the line where the wagons were and now the locomotive could push them to the loading hopper.
@oncydium3 ай бұрын
I always loved the 08 - so much personality.
@lyokianhitchhiker2 ай бұрын
Probably 1 of the only things BR did right as far as diesels go was these guys.
@azzifyy59882 ай бұрын
@@lyokianhitchhikerYes and no. Still bought way too many shunters.
@david1038573 ай бұрын
Wow! So weird to see that happening having grown up in that era. I heard a story of a loose shunted Mk3 that escaped onto the main line...
@Combes_3 ай бұрын
"Speed, I _AM_ Speed!"
@asteroidrules3 ай бұрын
So that's what it looks like when you go full throttle on a Class 08.
@Renatodonadio3 ай бұрын
It's a shunting yard, first the locomotive pushes the carts up to speed, so they'll start to travel by inertia, then the locomotive is shunted on the nearby track to catch the other group of carts and move them around 😀
@user-xd6uy1bo9g3 ай бұрын
Devious Diesel with the mischievous trucks!
@matthew_natividad2 ай бұрын
I was just looking for a TTTE reference
@bobtudbury85053 ай бұрын
i remember the first time i got into one of these in the mid 80s, the engine noise etc sounded just like a trolley bus! ...which i used to catch in the 60s !
@theobster3 ай бұрын
I grew up very near Toton sidings in the 80’s, my mate and I spent half our life there. There were many many locomotives parked up waiting I think to be decommissioned. I’m not a train buff but I found them interesting to be around, from memory they were class 30’s, 40’s, 45’s and 56’s mainly. They were unlocked and we would just sit in them and pretend to drive them!!! I used to love going into the engine room as I’m into that kind of thing. There were lots of 08’s working there, I remember once chatting to a driver sitting up in his cab. He asked us if we wanted to have a look in the cab! We jumped at the chance, he even let us drive it!!! I remember pushing or pulling a horizontal lever with a big black knob on it and the loco moving forward!!, we couldn’t believe it. Would have been about 1983/84 how things have changed, he probably would be sacked now.
@JimH243 ай бұрын
Great stories, thanks for posting
@bfapple3 ай бұрын
Locos at Toton waiting to be decommissioned. Some things never change.
@stephendavies47253 ай бұрын
Hi mick I was a driver too at didcot I remember you and all the other guys tony neal , mel Davies, ted watts howard thomas my name is steve Davies I am retired now 3 years and counting love the old days
@Thomas_Tank_1_NWR_1242 ай бұрын
some say its still rolling to this day
@hoofie20023 ай бұрын
One question : Class 08s are obviously very low speed but how did they move them between yards on the main line etc? Or we they happy to be towed behind a larger diesel? Edit : found it: coupled rods removed and traction motor demeshed for long distance distance moves
@taffboyslim3 ай бұрын
I was at Cardiff Central station in the late 70s when I saw 'yet another 08' trundling up one of the middle roads up to the gantry at the west end of the station. Then I noticed it was 09 026 (IIRC?) The driver climbed out quickly and ran back to get on the Portsmouth train at platform 2. I asked him "'where have you come from?"..."Saafampton" came the reply. That must have been one long shift :-) I'm not sure if that was the first 09 to move to South Wales?
@darryljones84182 ай бұрын
Back in 1979/1980 trainspotting on coseley station (a mainline Wolverhampton to Birmingham) just about to go home when getting dark and three 08 class shunters came romping thru at about 30 mph running together, shit no camera 😂
@nounoufriend14422 ай бұрын
Yes we use to de mesh motors , they have double reduction so you pulled counter shaft out of mesh otherwise motors would be damaged . Now they see to go via road as freight fragmentation has left us with hardly any maintenance facilities capable of de mesh re mesh
@nigelfarley8143 ай бұрын
Crickey that 08 must have been going flat out. I wonder what ‘elfin saftee’ would say about doing that these days!
@cyberdonblue44133 ай бұрын
Even flat out you couldn't squeeze more than 20 mph out of them. Had some great fun with them on nights around Birmingham New St station though. The work was virtually nonstop on nights in the eighties; at both ends of the station, although slightly busier at the north end.
@markcf833 ай бұрын
The HSE would be having multiple coronaries.....
@martinsims12733 ай бұрын
The 09's were faster. Virtually the same as 08's but with bigger wheels (or higher gearing, can't remember which just now), so that they could do trip working as well as shunting. I believe most of them were on the Southern Region.
@peteotoole83833 ай бұрын
@@cyberdonblue4413used to watch the 08 at new street as a kid used to facinated me 😂
@steamfandan96823 ай бұрын
They only have a top speed of 15 mph at full power
@Cnw87013 ай бұрын
We call this "fly switching" or a "flying switch" in the US.
@articeddie54942 ай бұрын
I used to watch something like this at Temple Mills as a boy, they would roll down a hill into different lanes
@ClydebridgeStation3 ай бұрын
The 08 has the Southern region high level pipes on it as well, so likely was based on the SR sometime previously.
@Jestey62 ай бұрын
Overtake. “To catch up with and, PASS”.
@neilbrockbignasty773 ай бұрын
I've seen this many times as my oldest brother was head shunter on newport Dock
@jemesan772 ай бұрын
great video of those great railway years
@JimH242 ай бұрын
Glad you like it, and thanks for your comment.
@lyokianhitchhiker2 ай бұрын
The Class 08 was probably the only BR diesel product to WORK
@astrochaos41822 ай бұрын
Class 37
@lyokianhitchhiker2 ай бұрын
@@astrochaos4182 in general, English Electric was probably 1 of the better diesel makers during BR Modernization
@azzifyy59882 ай бұрын
Class 55 and Class 43.
@lyokianhitchhiker2 ай бұрын
@@azzifyy5988 English Electric in general was probably the only diesel maker not to be so incompetent
@NorCraftLinerz2 ай бұрын
Devious Diesel!!!!!!!
@chrismccartney86683 ай бұрын
Before Elf and Safety then !!
@JimH243 ай бұрын
Oh yes!
@mattsawyer3432 ай бұрын
Yeah no railway rule book then
@clayv54222 ай бұрын
Alternate title diesel overtakes his own train
@batman513 ай бұрын
The good old days
@CarLos-yi7ne2 ай бұрын
Nice, in the Netherlands we used these a lot back in the days. Known as the NS 500/600. NS stands for: Nederlandse Spoorwegen (Dutch Railways).
@Xalerdane2 ай бұрын
Which amuses me a bit due to what ‘spoor’ means in English.
@CarLos-yi7ne2 ай бұрын
@@Xalerdane Mmm, I expected something dirty.. 😂 But seems to be almost the same: track. 🤔
@Xalerdane2 ай бұрын
@@CarLos-yi7ne Actually the English definition is ‘the evidence that an animal left behind that’s used to track it.’ So stuff like an animal’s footprints, shed fur, damaged plants, lingering smells, and piles of its dung are all examples of spoor.
@CarLos-yi7ne2 ай бұрын
@@Xalerdane Aha! Thanks! Me as a Dutchy miss those details in your language. 😄
@Xalerdane2 ай бұрын
@@CarLos-yi7ne Well the English language *did* steal it from you before repurposing it for this specific context. Shortly after the British swiped your African colony, if I’m not mistaken.
@whiteknightcat3 ай бұрын
Well that was disappointing. I was thinking he was going to run around the cut while it was moving. He was just kicking cars.
@jankington2163 ай бұрын
I was ready to comment something about confusion and delay
@nowsc3 ай бұрын
… class of 08 seems to not have learned how to use the apostrophe properly :-(
@lappylappy72693 ай бұрын
Whatever happened to D3785……….. ? As a kid I remember this locomotive working on the Central line in Leicester. ?>Its number lodged in my memory 😂.
@beeble20033 ай бұрын
It was renumbered 08618 in 1974, withdrawn from service in 1990, and scrapped at Gateshead TMD in 2001. More details if you search for "british rail D3785" -- one of the first hits is a huge database of BR locomotives from 1948 to 1997. The database looks incomplete, though, as it shows D3785 moving between various sheds in Leicester and Wellingborough through the 1960s, but then no allocation changes between 1969 and 1990. Being cut up at Gateshead suggests that it was allocated there -- or, at least, somewhere in the north-east -- when withdrawn. If you search for its TOPS number, 08618, there are photos of it at Thornaby and Gateshead in the mid-1980s.
@lappylappy72693 ай бұрын
@@beeble2003 Thank you for all that information . I’m disappointed to hear that it was scrapped .I have great memories of it during my train spotting days, many many years ago .
@TheSynthnut2 ай бұрын
Was waiting for rhe 08 to stall on the point and the "hand of god" appear to give it a nudge.
@kittschultz75056 күн бұрын
In Canada , it’s called “ kicking” cars. I used to do it many times a shift. Retired conductor from Lillooet bc Canada
@JimH24Күн бұрын
@kittschultz7505 Yes I have heard that saying before somewhere. Thanks for the comment.
@dallas1842 ай бұрын
We call it fly shunting here in Australia
@drewmog1234563 ай бұрын
There’s no apostrophe in its.
@JimH243 ай бұрын
Thank's for your comment...
@Bassotronics2 ай бұрын
Cool! 👍🏻
@thebrummierailenthusiasts53292 ай бұрын
It’s almost like it’s trying to catch up with the trucks after it shunted them and letting them roll away
@juliacrask59053 ай бұрын
Awesome
@JimH243 ай бұрын
Thanks
@True_NOON2 ай бұрын
Coming to TSW6 (on launch of TSW7)
@williamstephens99453 ай бұрын
Looked bonkers
@MervynPartin3 ай бұрын
Nice one.
@JimH243 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@West_Coast_Gang2 ай бұрын
Interesting
@jonathanphelan66272 ай бұрын
so are those trucks still making their way down the line on their own ? Whose job is it to stop them ?
@itwontcomeout56782 ай бұрын
This is real cool
@JimH242 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@alfazagato14552 ай бұрын
I hope that GWR coaling stage is still there. Looks like it had been recently repainted, too.
@JimH242 ай бұрын
I think it is part of the Didcot Railway Centre...
@cjstacey14122 ай бұрын
It is still there, part of the Great Western Heritage Centre, you can walk around it.
@woods8403 ай бұрын
Aww British trains are so cute.
@Xalerdane2 ай бұрын
Not enough room in Britain to have big locomotives.
@user-gk8gg1zt7l3 ай бұрын
Good video, like...
@JimH243 ай бұрын
Thank you 👍
@VanessaFlyhight2 ай бұрын
The correct way to play derail valley
@lsswappedcessna2 ай бұрын
imagine trying this with a DM3 lol
@Somerset-Trains3 ай бұрын
Wouldn't get away with that now days, trains will never be what they used to be!
@@TheMusicalElitist One day its going to be "Ok Millenial"...
@mattsawyer3432 ай бұрын
Safer now!
@r0ckt3hc4sb4h2 ай бұрын
It's cute 🥰
@dougthompson25983 ай бұрын
Good old 08850
@NorthYorkshireCoastRail3 ай бұрын
It is too, I've been out on it today on a ballast drop, 26 mile trip, wish it still had the coat of grime
@randolfo12653 ай бұрын
How can I learn more about this locomotive? Never saw one before.
@JimH243 ай бұрын
If you search online for 'class 08 shunter' you will find plenty of information.
@NJPurling3 ай бұрын
@@JimH24 Also referred to as a 'Gronk' for some unknown reason. The design pre-dates British Rail. Pre WW2.They had different engines & traction motors. They were an obvious substitute for a steam locomotive for shunting purposes. The company, English Electric also made trams, street-cars for any Americans. Their spoked wheels may be unique for a main-line diesel.
@lord_scrubington2 ай бұрын
snowpiercer reference
@mr.sir.2 ай бұрын
And I thought Hyce was crazy
@Bobsmith-gq5qu3 ай бұрын
where are those trucks off to on their own then ? Thought it was going to race round the front
@JimH243 ай бұрын
The wagons went slowly into a siding (dead end) I guess the crew were just saving time.
@tahrey3 ай бұрын
An adventure! FREEDOM!
@elijahstevenson254622 күн бұрын
I wonder what happened to that specific Class 08 diesel shunter?
@JimH2414 күн бұрын
@elijahstevenson2546 It appears to be preserved at the North York Moors Railway. nymrdiesel.org.uk/locomotives/08850.html
@elijahstevenson254614 күн бұрын
@@JimH24 Thank goodness for that.
@jonah64043 ай бұрын
POP GOES THE DIESEL
@jappedut90093 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@punkystuff3 ай бұрын
TRUCKS ARE WAITING IN THE YARD TAKING IN WITH DIESEL SHOW THE WORLD WHAT I CAN DO GABY GOSE THE DIESEL IN AND OUT HE CREEPS ABOUT LIKE A BIG BLOCK WESLE WHEN HE PULLS THE WONG TRUCKS UP...POP GOSE THE DIESEL
@andypandywalters3 ай бұрын
Excuse the ignorant question, but why is there a 'connecting rod' between the main wheels, and what is its function ?
@ProfessorPesca3 ай бұрын
It’s a coupling rod, it makes sure all the wheels are working together so they don’t slip. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coupling_rod
@andypandywalters3 ай бұрын
@@ProfessorPesca Many thanks.
@davidfuller5813 ай бұрын
These are a bit different from a typical diesel-electric - they use a single traction motor set and connect to one set of wheels. This lets them power all 6 wheels with only two traction motors. I've seen similar things on electrics before but they usually use jackshafts instead.
@tahrey3 ай бұрын
@@davidfuller581 Given that it's transmitting rotational power from the gearbox, rather than reciprocating push/pull of a piston, isn't it a kind of jackshaft in itself?
@davidfuller5813 ай бұрын
@@tahrey Sorta? I hadn't looked at it that way. But there are diesels that use jackshafts - usually diesel-mechanicals and very small ones at that like the BR Class 03.
@xymaryai82832 ай бұрын
shove, decouple, stop, switch, notch 8.
@u2bear3773 ай бұрын
* its
@HowardLeVert2 ай бұрын
I can remember wagons actually being bashed by an 08 to get them rolling back in the 70s...
@toasterhavingabath69802 ай бұрын
I built one of these in a game and it can go about 60m/s
@tahrey3 ай бұрын
Kicking?!
@mjwiaa3 ай бұрын
Wait, what happened to the moving cars? Did he then hitch up the whole thing to them and catch them? Or did they roll away into a city? I'm so confused and unsatisfied
@tooleyheadbang42393 ай бұрын
They must have been edited out.
@JimH243 ай бұрын
They rolled slowly into the siding.
@tahrey3 ай бұрын
Some say they're still rolling to this day
@user-li8uv1tr6y3 ай бұрын
I think those are from the 1960s and still in use
@JimH243 ай бұрын
Yes, a total of 996 of these were built from 1952 to 1962, and some are still in service! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_08
@acampbell86142 ай бұрын
Based on an LMS design from the 1930s....
@struck2soon2 ай бұрын
I didn’t think an 08 could overtake anything…
@pootispiker28662 ай бұрын
Me in Derail Valley
@BrokenCurtain2 ай бұрын
That engine reminds me of a dinosaur.
@Skarloeyandfriends2 ай бұрын
paxton or sidney shunting
@barrysmith16513 ай бұрын
Kick
@Vectorh2 ай бұрын
Anyone else recognize Brewster from Chuggington?
@lawrence18uk2 ай бұрын
Electric Class 08, anyone? That'd have a turn of speed...
@caramelldansen22042 ай бұрын
A few have been made, but I'm not sure a privatised rail system wants to see head nor tail of the 08s aside from their scrap value.
@-NINE-THREE-2 ай бұрын
Title reads as follows: "Class 08 overtakes IT IS own train"