Class 20 issues and Heavy Freight: A Misty Day at Carlisle. Class 20s, 6s, 68s, 70, 88s 13 Nov 24

Class 20 issues and Heavy Freight:
A Misty Day at Carlisle.
Class 20s, 6s, 68s, 70, 88s
13 November 24
We see the rail head treatment trains, the log train, two Engineer's trains, the twice weekly Empty gypsum working from Kirkby Thore and the odd passenger train.
The highlight is the pair of Class 20s. They had been scheduled to work from Upperby depot to Ayr on a route learning run in the morning but that got cancelled. Instead they ran into Citadel station after turning so that D8107 was facing south. Ironically they had been turned last night after a route learning run to Ayr. Once in A Road there was trouble. After being given the road the driver called the power box and the signals were reset to Danger. I'll leave the rest to the video!
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[@richardharbin2610]

Excellent video with excellent sound and quality when I was young I was taking pics only with my old camera the phones we have now are excellent not been to Carlisle since 2007

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

Thanks! You;d find Carlisle a lot quieter than in 2007!

[@johnmacdonald3282]

Me and my son who was 13 at the time stayed in Carlisle Station spotting until 4.30am. We asked the staff for permission and they even kept the waiting room open for us. The caley sleeper were trialling the new stock so we had a great time along with also seeing a rescue. My son on the platform all night just in a t-shirt told you how happy he was.

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

I wish I had the stamina to do an overnighter! It can be a great place.

[@johnmacdonald3282]

@LeslieGilpinRailways there were elderly people there decked out for the night like light campers. It was asking them if they were staying the night that tempted us to do the same. This was before covid.

[@rodfairley1117]

Thank you Les for another interesting video. Great bit of drama with the 20s.

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

@@rodfairley1117 thanks. It was a silly situation Locomotive Services got themselves into apparently.

[@jameseldershaw7194]

Great mix as always Les!

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

@@jameseldershaw7194 thanks!

[@2010ditta]

Blimey...freight galore there Lesllie, very nice. Thhey all looked good disappearing into the mist down that one end. All the best.

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

Was a reasonably busy day! Thanks Tim

[@Blabheinn]

Yet another superb video leslie, thank you for sharing with us

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@johnbanicki7232]

Always fun to watch. The equipment over there is so much different from what we see here in the US. Thanks for sharing.

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

Thanks! It certainly is - even the Canadian/US built Class 66s and US built Class 70s look tiny in comparison, certainly above the bogies

[@stephendavies6949]

It's all rather smaller in scale, I guess?

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

@@stephendavies6949 the bogies aren't much different but above them it grows significantly both up and across. Much larger loading gauge.

[@Grid56]

That's funny as it mostly is north american😂. The consists don't take up as much room as the us ones though. We don't have to wait an hour at rail crossings for the trains to pass with only 24 to 30 wagons. You do have more room inside your coaches than our tight seating because your gauge is not restricted by Victorian infrastructure.

[@stamrly418]

Just love to watch the trains snaking through the crossings to get to or from the “Newcastle line”

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

@@stamrly418 it's good isn't it

[@jimdieseldawg3435]

Another great job done, Leslie. Thank you for sharing 🙂

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

Thanks!

[@pn112upfast]

Excellent with the class 20s Les, thanks for the information on them 👍

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

@@pn112upfast glad you enjoyed

[@rxcko172]

15:30 best avanti livery of all times

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

DEeinitely distinctive

[@sydwoods.woodsendjunction9492]

Superb video Les as l always really enjoyed it , shame about the class 20 im sure they got it sorted thanks for sharing take care a t b Syd

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@declanjoyce8640]

Cheers Les....great episode...

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

Thanks

[@stevehull787]

Always come up tops Les gentlemen love your rail video's top man 👍

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

Thanks 👍

[@stevehull787]

@LeslieGilpinRailways Les don't forget tomorrow night on channel 4 at 8 take care 👍

[@martinjh999]

Not surprised the Class 20s are having problems - Not sure if they are contemporary with the 37s or slightly older but I'm guessing they are roughly the same age... Good vid again - The fog wasn't the fog it was those Class 20s! :)

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

Good point! Thanks for watching

[@presidentxd]

There is only one freight train service here in ireland and its only allowed to be 18 wagons in length as most mainline here and single track and the passing loops only are good for that size of train.

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

I must admit when I've been in Dublin I never found where the train ran from but knew it must be short

[@greenlight7107]

there is more than one freight train in ireland

[@johnpinfold4413]

Another great video Les. Thank you. Are you able to explain what's in all those trucks which shuttle back and forwards between Carlisle Network Yard and Tyne System Sidings? It's like a mini industry in it's own right(!) which, on the face of it, seems pretty inefficient. All best JP, Cheltenham, UK.

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

The Network Rail engineer's trains usually take new or old permanent way materials to concentrate them at either of the two yards. There are similar workings from Millerhill (Edinburgh) and Crewe Basford Hall. The more track relaying there is the more wagons on these trains.

[@johnpinfold4413]

@@LeslieGilpinRailways Thank you Les. All best, JP.

[@stephendavies6949]

Chopper drama! I looked up D8107 in the BR database, which stated it was condemned in 1991. Obviously, it was saved from the cutting torch and has had a very illustrious 2nd life.

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

@@stephendavies6949 they do seem to be restored to a high level.

[@Barbarapape]

Now we know why they're ran in pairs, duff class 20's are nothing new. You could almost feel the cold and damp in that video. Take care Leslie and keep warm next week.

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

Ironic thing is they knew there was a fault the previous night but obviously the message got mixed - a prepared pair were turned the previous night and then turned again with the duff loco at thew front again. Thanks

[@davethompson8779]

Another great video, Leslie, thank you. I was wondering, when do the empty "log" wagons return North? I can't remember ever seeing them in your videos. Many thanks & keep up the great content.

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

They have occasionally appeared, usually when late returning to Carlisle as the northbound runs are overnight ready for the next days working. Thanks for watching

[@petersmith4455]

hi there, poor old cl 20 i am sure it will be fixed by the engineers. great video as usual

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

I would hope so! Thanks!

[@Phil-oj5nr]

It was 11C at 1100 hrs in PICTON today, so it may have been warmer in Carlisle, 12,000 miles away!

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

We saw highs of 10 that day but very damp air. Thanks for watching

[@cedarcam]

A strange fault with the 20, it looked like a brake problem but seems only affected on the leading locomotive. Electrical fault preventing the brakes releasing perhaps.

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

It was definitely a brake fault on D8107. I wondered if it had been discovered the night before when the pair ran to Upperby via London Road, thus putting D8096 at the south end. But why then turn them again to put D8107 at the south. The matter seems serious enough that D8107 was shunted without power to allow D8096 back to the south end.

[@cedarcam]

@@LeslieGilpinRailways very strange

[@davidmatheson8172]

Greet8ngs Les, #njoyedvideoas always. Seems a long way forNewbiggin 5o Tees fkr a trunaround? Hope 20 soon better and rewdy fo4 road ahead

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

Thanks. The New Biggin (ie Kirkby Thore) run is shorted via Tyne Valley than it was via Yorkshire

[@holylochlad.4119]

Jeezo, that Tesco train was some length 😮, can I ask where you get the train destinations from ?. Excellent again Les, thoroughly enjoyed the footage sir, thanks for sharing.

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

@@holylochlad.4119 I use RealTime Trains website. Thanks

[@pauljohnson4525]

Most enjoyable Leslie

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

Thanks!

[@Sonny_JC]

That poor class 20 wasn’t having a good day was she🫣 least there was another one to move her out the way😅 amazing video as always 🫡

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

Thanks for watching!

[@37418]

Excellent Footage Shame about issues with 20s

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

@@37418 thanks! It was bad but at least it was heading to Crewe anyway

[@Phil-oj5nr]

Your 66’s sound like our Dx series, both GM, but gauge is 1067mm! All Dx’s will be gone, probably by end of 2026, with 66 new Stadler Dm’s. Finally KiwiRail buys quality!

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

So many 66s were bought after 1996 that I think there are enough to keep them going for some time. The freight companies talk about investment but seem to buy the odd high profile loco here and there but the totally new ones have never been in service

[@rxcko172]

i spotted a issue in the title you put Nov 24 instead of Nov 14

[@rxcko172]

13th

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

thats when it was recorded

[@rxcko172]

@@LeslieGilpinRailways ahh

[@retiree1033]

The town of my birth......72 years ago.

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

Thats good to know!

[@Abnerbandanovotempoinscrito1mi]

Bom dia afoto e vídeo show movimentação de trem show 31:07

[@LeslieGilpinRailways]

Thanks!