*CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT AGAINST NIANTIC ALLEGEDLY* Minors purchasing loot boxes? in Pokemon GO

Looks like we allegedly have a class action against Niantic for non-refundable pokecoins and miners purchasing them.
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[@poke_ak]

And I forgot to mention eggs because those are a loot box

[@matgreen4789]

Just beat me to it. 😂 Eggs are the worst money grab in the entire game. Pay money for completely random Pokémon 🤮

[@Celtidh]

yeah but you dont buy those

[@near3d945]

You can buy the incubators to hatch more.

[@natedeanmaan2]

​@matgreen4789 the 7k eggs suck, unless a good event comes up

[@Atom1cAtom]

i think raid passes are somewhat of a loot box, at least when used on a raid and not GBL

[@Gengargamer2_]

One thing about the raids is the fact that they say the catching part of the raid is a "Bonus challenge" and not the main attraction of the raid "technically", even though it obviously is.

[@AdamGaron686]

Clever perception tactics

[@arkheops]

Eggs in Pokémon GO are legally considered loot boxes due to the fact that you can purchase incubators. It’s just like those games where you have tons of “reward boxes” but you can only open one at a time and it’s time gated and then you can purchase additional “keys” or “better keys” to open the more boxes at once or open them quicker. But these lawsuits specifically are after Niantic’s eggs. That’s why recently Niantic legally had to disclose what can hatch in eggs and what the odds are. If you remember, you couldn’t see what would hatch in eggs before and you definitely couldn’t see what the odds were. They added a “rarity” tier list for eggs only relatively recently.

[@cklahn2714]

The egg system is absolutely a loot box. And the fact several pokemon are locked to eggs only makes it worse. Gambling at its best right there.

[@lemonz1769]

Two days in a row I find myself agreeing with PokeAK. People dont want to actually pay attention and raise their kids these days.

[@TheHuggableEmpire]

why would you ever disagree with him

[@electroseal5822]

True, i feel like ppl should normalize not making kids if you re a dumass

[@Chinbussa]

If this is got long it took you to agree, then you have to agree your head is in the sand

[@TheTinnman]

Parents don't monitor their children and then want the courts to bail them out for the bad parenting. Screw that.

[@TheFluke32]

Niantic forgot: their whole game is a gacha game. Old pokemon games, when played for making competitive pokemon for pvp, were borderline gacha games, too. They only get a pass due to the fact that they don't really make you keep spending money.

[@Make2wo]

The eggs are loot boxes. Even with the infinite incubator, if you want to fully utilize hatching eggs you need to purchase incubators. I’ve skipped plenty of egg events because I didn’t have incubators. Then there’s rare Pokémon locked behind eggs with vague knowledge of what actually hatching from them.

[@Celtidh]

you dont even have to buy em tho showcases and season research give em regularly and i have on multiple occasions hatched a shiny from just 1 egg a time. its just rng

[@Make2wo]

A loot box is a consumable virtual item which can be redeemed to receive a randomised selection of further virtual items, or loot, ranging from simple customization options for a player's avatar or character to game-changing equipment such as weapons and armor. A loot box is typically a form of monetisation, with players either buying the boxes directly or receiving the boxes during play and later buying "keys" with which to redeem them. I don't buy incubators, but I don't have the fomo of not having every shiny and egg/region locked, Pokemon either. I still don't have a Varoom or a female Salandit. I'll get them sooner or later or not at all. Others might not feel that way. Others might feel they need to clear out their egg storage daily and you have to buy incubators to do that. Purchasing incubators plus FOMO plus rng is the very definition of loot box.

[@BeardManTimLaird]

You forgot eggs are the loot boxes.

[@MasterBamarah]

So in the end the question is… “Who’s responsible for irresponsible behavior?”

[@royboy12345ful]

Minors * not miners lol. I was confused at first

[@Gatebreakerglitcher]

For real I was why tf do they care if the data miners are buying stuff 😂

[@louisedykes4794]

Yup I was too. Or two. Or to

[@pinoyfury7728]

@@louisedykes4794 I see what you did there. Brilliant!

[@BigGuyBurrito]

Most likely intentional for youtube guidelines

[@DiabIe37]

Alan Rickman from Galaxy Quest has arrived. 🤣

[@cvlcek144]

I waited so long for this. Since the Star Wars controversy with EA that caused legal troubles

[@jjjones4982]

My boss's kid got hold of his business credit card & charged up thousands of dollars for game purchases. I was in charge of administration of his card & had show him the bill. LOL

[@kevwebst]

All the tickets say "and more" so that is kind of a loot box itself. Not saying specifically what u will get.. and could be a legendary in someone's head. Even though most people know it just means an encounter with trash or a razz berry.

[@michalsedlarik8889]

weak argument. Would not stand at all. Raids won´t work either as catching legendary mon is only "bonus challenge" so you pay for the items basicaly.(We all know it is not like that, but legaly it is fine, cuz of that). If you were to make argument about lootboxes in Pogo, that could actually stand. It should be the eggs as those are typical lootbox thing.

[@basillah7650]

Poipole was not said that is a legendary they not add that till like 2 months later.

[@basillah7650]

@@michalsedlarik8889 raid actually got more argument everyone does them for the pokemon only

[@caseyhowell598]

You might be thinking of random loot boxes for the "???" Part, the current boxes technically fit the description of being loot boxes, just not random loot boxes, technically they are boxes with loot in them

[@Poweruser75]

Something I don't like is when i'm given a prize from something like PVP or a Slide and it's a Pokemon prize, I'm not liking having to use "personal" pokeballs. If i don't have any pokeballs then I have to wait to catch it and use my LIFES TIME to go spin signs or hope I have a friend gift or two left to open. Im having to give too much of myself to get a reward prize. A reward prize shouldn't cost ANYTHING. they should have premier balls waiting to be used and we throw until we catch it. So may times I waste Pokeballs just trying to catch Slide Prizes or PVP prizes. The raids... It should, or may already say; A "CHANCE" at Catching a Legendary. Because like, Poke AK stated, it's not a guarantee you're going to receive it and i think that's crazy especially if I bought the Raid passes. a couple years ago I quit playing for like a year because I got so fed up with it all. I was trying to catch a Carbink that poped up in the wild and I had to use like 7 or 8 Gold Berries (all I had) and Black balls and tried to get excellent every time and after taking ALL MY GOLD BERRIES and the rest of my black balls, I was left with Red and Blue balls and normal berries and the damn thing just RAN! I shut off the game and didn't open it for a year. I know it didn't make a bit of difference to the game by me not playing for a year but i didn't it anyway. Im back on, of course lol AANNDD nothing's changed... I know there are people that are going to say, just don't play it if you don't like it... I DO like it. I don't like being screwed when im doing my best and using EVERYTHING i have. i know it seems trivial to some but not to people that feel like i do. I hate even griping like this on the internet because of the high and mighty people stuck up their own #utt&ole.

[@jamespeden1089]

Eggs are definitely LOOT BOXES. Yes raids are one of the only paid items in any game that you can literally get absolutely NOTHING for your money. IE the pokemon winds up running on you.

[@shadowdrakes]

I would say raids, egg hatching and rocket encounters are loot boxes with the reward being randomized. On top of that, they really make it hard to get something good which pressures you to spend/do more

[@Kat_Nguyen]

I agree new games are full of micro transactions. Old school offline 1-4 player games is where its at.

[@NYvandal]

Lol I commented weeks and videos ago on if you could look into this potential lawsuit, I've been getting ads on it for a while but didn't know if it was a legit lawfirm.

[@Furrealmustachekitty]

I said this awhile back on one of your posts. I knew this was coming. Called it!

[@AndTheJets]

Truly I do believe if you can hit an excellent throw on the last ball it should be a guaranteed catch. Then it becomes a matter of skill and not a gamble.

[@pambulama973]

Interesting though a “class action” usually means a group of people sueing

[@shwayvee]

Fuck Niantic can’t believe they actually normalized paying for fucking Pokémon

[@Detective_Jones]

Google play should have better security so little kids don't spend their parents money on things like fx pokemon go!

[@JeromeStuartNicholsTube]

Eggs are the loot boxes. Especially since you're forced to hatch every single one. Raids could be considered one as well with the random rewards.

[@ButterfliesAreNinjas]

This type of lawsuit has already played out against Apple. It’s the parents fault their child has purchased these not Niantic. Take accountability for your child’s actions people! If it was done through the game using your Apple Pay or Google pay, I’ve gotten refunds for accidental purchases that I claimed immediately. I’m not sure Niantic is the one to sue…you sign waivers when u log in saying u are responsible for purchases made.

[@hotcarlsf]

The premium rewards passes for playing GBL are a loot box too. Especially when the game lags out and you can't attack. Money lost

[@emanuelfer456]

Battling raids, spinning pokestops are all loot boxes. GBL 2nd battle win reward is loot box with 1 random item, finishing route is loot box.

[@basillah7650]

route is free

[@basillah7650]

talking about stuff that costs money

[@emanuelfer456]

@@basillah7650 he was talking about what would be loot box in the game, I just gave examples, both free and paid

[@losadyos924]

I hope the lawsuit goes thru

[@fortroadmassive4095]

Definitely like Gambling & I don't Gamble Per se. No Bookies etc. I'm glad you brought this up cos I'm hooked!

[@TheRockerProjectx3]

They even made the clothes unisex but somehow they took away certain male options and now I’m missing items I bought. I will reach out to their support team.

[@jbrodriguez6862]

Another loot box is the Rockruff raid, only after catching it you can see if it's a dusk forme or not.

[@nixequestrian3721]

There does need to be a better refund system, as I can understand a single/one off accidental purchase slip up of say the $170 coin bundle needing to be refunded (been there done that & had to resort to my banks fraud team in order to get my money back/the transaction reversed), but if people are letting their kids access credit cards in order to spend up large over days or weeks or years, then yeah- that's 100% a parenting issue IMO. Most of the tickets could be considered loot boxes couldn't they? Niantic don't state exactly what people are paying for when they purchase a ticket- they instead state things like 'you'll get X,Y,X' "& more".

[@ArtzRSPS]

May as well call buying a raid pass and not getting a shundo 100% of the time gambling 😂 people be doing anything for a dollar nowadays

[@Dragonologist]

A portion of paid researches could be considered a loot box. You will get encounters with an assortment of pokemon and no guarantee if youll get the ones you want.

[@Lizardwizard2112]

This is not legal advice, it is for enter/tainment purposes only:)

[@texasfloodthe9370]

They sent the email to my daughter who is the minor and not to me. But it doesn't apply to us anyway because I don't allow my kids to purchase things like that in games. Maybe every once in a while, but not in excessive amounts and not without my permission.

[@yoitsJoe2]

I've been saying for years that anything pokemon is gambling. It's really sad AF. Pokemon TCG, you open a pack and you could get nothing worth your money spent. Also Remote Raid Passes in pokemon go, you have to buy a raid pass, then you aren't even guarentee'd to get the pokemon. The pokemon jumps out of every last ball, and you're left with just some xp and maybe if you're lucky, some mega energy. Also my friend and I played pokemon go today for about an hour, and we both were running out of space in our bag, constantly having to transfer pokemon just to continue playing. It makes playing anything pokemon, just feel bad up to a point. Also it seems like they've made catching pokemon in PoGo even harder. They break out of balls more often and you almost have to use a berry on every pokemon. But Like why do I have to put my money where my mouth is, to get these legendaries in pokemonGo because I have no friends that play the game.

[@juniorponce7206]

people like to say niantic doesnt refund stuff back but anytime ive ever had an issue they come in clutch deleted 980 ultra balls on accident this year got em back bught a 6500 poke coing expert box on accident also this year got the coins back have done remote raids and have gotten kicked out of halfway through the fight and gotten those passes returned i feel as long as u make em aware of it immediately when it happens theres no issue

[@justsayin3600]

I'm going to find out who the law firm is and tell them how Niantic rips players😢Niantic owes me at least 6 remote passes. Not including all the potions which have value to Niantic. 95% of the time I can't get in touch with anyone but an auto bot, that denies my refund. What happens. I join a remote raid, get in the lobby, my first team faints, then I get kicked back to the main screen. They want a picture. How would I take a picture for proof? Plus the remote raid doesn't show up in my journal.

[@ZarchonisSpire]

I see and get your point. But then you have the Whales of the game who say 'what's the deal about 100$ worth of pokecoins, can't they just make 100$ at work?' There are accidents and then there are deliberate choices people make, and parents not monitoring what the kids are doing... sounds like a parenting issue. Common sense will lose out.

[@JanBanan-k3o]

Raids are the lootboxes. They are just more intricatelly hidden.

[@darknessankoku8574]

Yes! I've always seen raids that way! Just like a slot machine!

[@baddragonite]

Another random little one that annoys me is that when you swap buddies your Pokemon's fed meter disappears even when you used a poffin

[@RaidFiftyOne]

Even that is avoidable at least. Eggs and Raids will never be gaurentee no matter what you do.

[@giantwookiee6472]

I remember Deino first coming out as a shiny. Eggs are crazy. I have lost perfects rayquaza, 98 mewtwo, a high shadow mewteo I could not bring myself to use a masterball on. Been playing since 2016. It has felt scammy from time to time over the years.

[@Shxrky420]

In the shop the clothes are still advertised with the old models but when you put them on they look weird

[@Quackerz2023]

Almost feels like they've been suspiciously careful in naming certain things in game because they knew long ago they'd have problems with the law lmao

[@foxfireglo8290]

Would love to see more lawsuits against Niantic for other things they’ve done too.

[@teekay7668]

It absolutely doesn’t push to you buy anything ever. If you have no self control or patience to just PLAY a free game, that’s on you not the corporation that knows how to exploit your childish need to consume things that DONT EVEN EXIST

[@x.DRIX.x]

Hey from Albuquerque here! 👋

[@benkutenets2391]

Not only are raids lootboxes, but eggs are also just rng, you could spend 25 bucks on incubators and will probably not get a shiny or 100

[@IzzRei]

The excellent-triggered crit catches don’t work on raid bosses or Audino

[@Schniebel89]

The Boxes are "bundles". If you have a child account the parent has to authorise every purchase the child requests. The only lootbox-like mechanic are the egg hatching and the incense. because you can pay for an item that gives you a random reward. maybe the raids to an extend with IVs and shinies. Hard to say but the game would be insanely boring if there wasn't some sort of "surprise mechanics"

[@JohnTruempy]

Well this suit seems very limited but at least it revealed 1 main and 1 local law firm willing and with a proven track record of winning class actions on Niantic. These things are never quick but my money would be on people reaching out to them very soon over things like the Avatar outfit issue.

[@richardsexton9839]

That's only thing that aggravates me is after beating a raid boss I've not been able to catch alot of the pokemon and have to do the raids multiple times to catch the pokemon.

[@lelouchchanbc]

Prediction for Ultra Necrozma debut in Pokemon Go. Ultra Necrozma is not likely to debut during the Alola Tour but near the end of the next season. Now was 2024 but the Alola Tour makes Ultra Necrozma debut, then it will be in 2027 every players will die waiting for it. Since global Pokemon Festival 2024 takes place in the middle of the next season, after this will be Pokemon Festival ultra bonus. Ultra Necrozma may be part of the Pokemon Festival ultra bonus. Mechanics Predictions. Ultra Necrozma will be in tier 5 or tier 6 raid boss, defeat it and part of the award ultra Necrozma energies and bonus catches will be normal form Necrozma. Maybe cost 1000 ultra energies and 60 Necrozma energies to evolve Ultra Necrozma but only Necrozma bringing fused with Solgaleo and Lunalar can be ultra evolve. Place your Ultra Necrozma as your buddy adventure will obtain 25 ultra Necrozma energies 1 Necrozma candy and XL Necrozma candy for 20KM. Ultra Necrozma energy has a dragon emblem on it.

[@Dynamite_TNT]

The only time I ask my parents for something it's for things that you can't buy with pokecoins, other wise it would be for storage which i grind to every day, i also offer to pay them back.

[@TheTinnman]

Simple solution. Minimum age to play is 18. Or the parent signs a waiver and thus it falls to them for their child's poor choices!

[@markrinaldi8485]

Fix & better customer service too. 5% catch rate should be better

[@near3d945]

I guess you can also argue the pokemon encounter reward from PVP is also a loot box. I can see someone buying passes for a chance to get a legendary from the rewards .

[@lostghost8969]

they should be sued for making my character look like shit

[@circledude2362]

Elf fantasy adventutes but its official! That bootleg game also has loot boxes.

[@jesuschrist5294]

pokemon go is full of lootboxes. renaming them to "incubator" or the rest, will not magically change this

[@WashproBrad]

Man i had 2 out of 3 regirocks run on me today . I was pissed. I have all catch medals full , there was no real reason why they ran.

[@Theketchupbottle]

You can catch them all without buying bag space not everyone goes for a living dex they just want their Pokédex filled

[@alister2755]

The breakthrough box be like 💀

[@damonmanning7240]

We need the ability to turn on or off the features the game introduces.so we can personalize the gameplay to our preferences.

[@Codking_blackops]

2001 case Pokémon GO was released in 2016 was it a different Pokémon game

[@realplato2575]

Terrific now we can get their internal emails, phone records and find out about the abusive relation between Niantic and the community and if this is intentional. Maybe now Niantic can be pressed to stop doubling down on their shitty behaviour 👏

[@aarondavis9290]

Hatching eggs are a loot box

[@SIX4NINJA]

I always hated that you could NOT catch the raid boss when you used a premium pass.

[@jandgmodteam3754]

Oh you’d best believe Niantic will surreptitiously ban the offending account regardless of the outcome of the lawsuit.

[@leonwatkins5072]

If there’s that for them then EA should get one also

[@crashertalksmore9869]

DUUUUUUUDE!!! 😮

[@louisebarker3731]

one my mums friends grankids once used his own grandmas credit card in fifa spending over £100 on the game the grandma complained to the game company she got her money back as he was under 18 and the kid got to keep all the stuff.he got punished though 😂 i once had someone on ebay using my kid bid on your item without me knowing excuse so it’s not just games 🙄

[@Fonz13109]

I feel like the more pressure on Niantic the better. To be honest they need to get there game straight otherwise its going to get out of hand...

[@JerWHolley]

The laws surrounding loot box purchases only require the company to provide the drop rate IE: 1 out of 100. Niantic should provide that information for Egg drops and shiny rates but technically bc you don’t have to buy things to incubate and raid they don’t have to.

[@JerWHolley]

I agree this is the parents responsibility and if we get the government involved they won’t stop. How do we confirm it was the kid who purchased and not a parent with buyers remorse.

[@jeremyjordan669]

90% of the rewards you get from a raid you get from a normal pokestop as well though so paying for the pass just to get the same items as you would from spinning a stop for free doesnt sit right with me. sure you can get rare candies or something but every other item you get from a raid is something you would get from a FREE pokestop spin.

[@Axecon1]

A lot of these recent tickets will not fully disclose the full content of what you are getting. Yes, they are lootboxes and by extension gambling.

[@AdventVFX]

Its time to call Saul

[@AdventVFX]

the closest thing to a loot box is the egss, completely random pokemon based on a pool

[@candychimes8184]

Niantic hasn't been reimburse raid passes lost from game glitches for over a year.

[@funnyinternetuser]

I'd argue buying incubators and hatching eggs is sort of a loot box as well.

[@EddieJiuJitsu]

Hatching eggs is the biggest scam in this game

[@herminquijano]

This means 3 dollars a raid pass. Half the amount of pokeballs and lower catch rates ..

[@ovxk1014]

Is anyone else unable to block pokémon go ads on KZbin?? I keep blocking them and they appear no matter what. I've blocked them at least 20 times

[@JustinMedina-ro8du]

I hope it’s true

[@champusclipz2293]

5 min gang! Welcome back trainers!

[@superlamekid215]

I bought 20 raid passes for tapu fini, out of the 20 passes I caught only 7 and one was shiny was bad iv, I agree that these are loot boxes and all my throws were great and excellent throws and after those 20 passes i just do the 2 free daily raid passes and collect my 50 coins a day now I also made an alt account because no one plays it around where I live

[@Stand.Your.Ground.]

I wish we would get some weekly free remote passes…

[@PhillyFan2017]

Sadly parenting and guidance just isn't how it use to be anymore

[@ByronCorella]

I just buy raid pases, I don’t care about the avatar. But eggs are just gamble. I’d have lose the catch reward in a couple of raids, didn’t get my pases back.

[@superdajoka]

Good. Niantic deserves to get sued at this point.

[@Snow-db4vp]

We should just go against the avatars and all those pass that ppl lost using réal money or loosing accounts !! Back then niantic was à good company now they just don't give à fuck just like EA And Dice

[@roadsofjapan6009]

Well is that not the same with kids buying Pokémon cards , you don’t know what your going to get but you dream to get the card worth thousands, don’t think this is going to be allowed to set a precedent. That’s pretty big and broad as all hell of a lawsuit 😂

[@Shizaya4ever]

Good. Niantic needs to be sued for a lot of things

[@bigcheese3520]

so basically gacha

[@yovanni.1913]

Straight up these new games are only cash grabs. Inflation is hurting everybody

[@yovanni.1913]

Not to mention sorry ass quality

[@williamjoback1436]

your intro is enough to get a "like" from me. Thank you!

[@jakes_s4]

I LIVE IN ALBUQUERQUE 🤣🤣🤣🤣 505 checking in