Classic Car Prices Still in Turmoil? SWVA Autumn Auction

[@christopherdoherty9274]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2bKf6StZ899j8ksi=tb4rx_BG7AeRHE5f Just for all the guys slagging about Mk2 4 doors and rallying there are quite alot around various stages in the UK/Ireland. Ricky Crone Motorsport can be seen on youtube

[@oscarsgarage447]

Thank you! There are also a lot that got converted from 4 to 2 door which is where I was thinking it might end up.

[@seanmccarroll3226]

Can’t believe Paul Whitehouse is into Classic Cars. It’s really Brilliant.

[@oscarsgarage447]

Fills in between the fishing with Bob...

[@timothyrogstad5577]

Thanks for that, made me laugh 😂

[@dinointhetube]

Just what I was thinking 😂😂😂

[@Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab]

Ha ! I just made the same comment before spotting yours! 🤣

[@FredScuttle456]

Hahaha!

[@Tommy_Poole]

Great video. I love a good classic car auction. Watching them on KZbin is about as close as I’m allowed to get these days.

[@oscarsgarage447]

Thanks for watching!

[@davidrennicks2484]

Yes must say you do it just right ,quick intro, to each vehicle then straight to the sale or none sale as the case may be. Makes a very pleasant change from the usual B/S that most spue out ! I have now given up on classic cars as I can't afford a quality one . I do still have a garage full of classic bikes which have also lost most of their value now , so I'm just going to keep them as long as I can still ride them.

[@oscarsgarage447]

Thanks for the compliment, I try and keep it simple and easy to watch.

[@Hagar934]

Who ever did the Mercedes valuation needs to get a slap to wake them up 😂

[@carlwilliams3488]

MK4 Escort RS Turbo's came in a number of colours, White, Black, Metallic Grey and Red and weren't quite as exclusive as the MK3 which as mentioned mainly came in white apart from the Diana car plus I believe a couple of other black ones.

[@jackdobson1992]

I saw a drunk blind guy buy a rs cosworth at ACA on sunday. Burnt out engine bay, replaced odometer.£50250 plus fees. Bonkers. 😂

[@philldownes8685]

It needs people to wake up and stop paying silly high prices for old scrap..

[@davidgavin7280]

That Rover 216 vitesse is just a good car at that money regardless of its age etc

[@davidcannon1148]

Some very good prices but also some you almost could give away. A very comprehensive auctioning thought

[@richardclatworthy6381]

After the iconic car auction at the classic car show this weekend I’d say the classic Ford prices are still very much alive. Over £200k for an escort Cosworth and various other RS models sold for a premium…….

[@oscarsgarage447]

Saw that one... that burst my bubble! TBF the exceptional cars (low miles/owners/etc) are doing very well still.

[@martinogold]

The RS200s didn't go for much more than that which is mind blowing to me.

[@SCR-ce2fs]

Thanks - really enjoyed the commentary then the actual auction. You've just got a new subscriber!

[@oscarsgarage447]

Awesome, thank you!

[@derekstocker6661]

Always had a hankering for a Triumph Stag, see you had at least one in the auction, great cars, lovely to look at and fabulous sound. Well done on this video guys, thoroughly enjoyed!

[@oscarsgarage447]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. One of the Stag's is still available on SWVAs Facebook page.

[@derekstocker6661]

@@oscarsgarage447 Thank you.

[@Purdy-jj5ws]

Brilliant content, I love the X1/9 a work colleague had one way back in the 80s I had serious car envy, wonder what happened to it.

[@oscarsgarage447]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!

[@Markycarandbikestuff]

If that Escort was a two door it'd have been 15-20 K, don't know about them being used as rally cars any more (original ones), you can buy brand new repo shells for reasonable money.

[@AntonHoward-mx9sb]

I cant understand the prices Escorts pull. I had a '72 Alfa Giulia and drove it back to back with a mk2 and there was simply no comparison whatsoever. The Alfa had a 1600 twin cam all alloy motor with sidedraught 40s, 5 speed transmission, 4 wheel disc brakes etc from the factory. They'd both get you from A-B but thats where all similarity ended

[@oscarsgarage447]

Nostalgia sells well at the moment, it might just be rose tinted...

[@ColinCarFan]

Th buyers are likely to have either owned or wanted to own when in their youth. Not many people by definition bought or wanted the Alfas

[@orbytl2799]

only series 1 RS turbos `came in just white series 2`s came in a few colours

[@oscarsgarage447]

As I say, every day is a school day!

[@gavinivers8941]

and there was a blue series 1 which was the car in CATS Eyes.

[@oscarsgarage447]

Funnily enough... been researching a video on CATS Eyes...

[@orbytl2799]

@@gavinivers8941 that was an xr3i cabriolet wasnt it?

[@orbytl2799]

@@oscarsgarage447 the tv show or the road safety feature? 😃

[@antWales1]

I owned an almost identical Vitesse in BRG on a G plate, with fully colour-coded bumpers and red inserts. It looked the part and had a well-finished interior. Ride was a bit choppy, electric sun roof used to jam and rear seat was cramped/set too high but it was for the era, quite peppy. Unfortunately, bought 6 months old with 2.5k on the clock for £8,750, it had been crash-damage repaired and I had no end of problems with the paintwork on one side and on the rear bumper, in addition to water leaks in the boot. Spoilt an otherwise decent car (a Honda in drag), but Hyacinth in a Vitesse….I don’t think so! £3k sounds a bit rich to me. Great channel content by the way.

[@oscarsgarage447]

Great story and thanks for the compliment

[@Roger.Coleman1949]

Great video as usual Oscar, slick presentation and to the point , always interesting to hear the auctioneers point of view - and they should know !.

[@oscarsgarage447]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. It makes the hours of production time worthwhile!

[@ericglass952]

Thanks for very good coverage off the auction .

[@oscarsgarage447]

Our pleasure

[@davefish8107]

I had a x19 , great fun . I would pay that much but only for the older ones with the small chrome bumpers

[@simplygregsterev]

I work on older cars, bmw and porsche mostly. The big issue with the classic car world in the last few years is it has become “lifestyle” and “trendy” Billions got invested to create auction houses and selling of said lifestyle. What happened? Well they needed cars to sell so everything became a “classic”. Many people got leveraged into “investments” when in fact they got misled. You have an entire group of people that overpaid for things simply because someone on youtube or media said “life this lifestyle” “be cool and trendy” “make a classic car your entire identity”

[@oscarsgarage447]

...and now they are feeling the pain. As they say investments can go down as well as up.

[@farmer6861]

I admire your work Sir - keep it up. Very entertaining for men of a certain age 👏

[@oscarsgarage447]

Thank you... it makes all the time it takes to put these together worth it. 👍

[@gldstone]

I'm on the other side of the world and even I estimated 20k on that Merc when you were featuring it pre-auction.

[@fotorabia]

Top of the line autobahn stormer...

[@PaulCooke-t2r]

The auctioneer was taking the mick out of the poor guy in the audience over that Merc 280. I won’t buy from them for that reason.

[@alanellis6688]

The outtake at the end was funny! I always get people wandering into my shots

[@oscarsgarage447]

Glad its not just me. I take my massive Canon camera to try and make myself more obvious...

[@pit_stop77]

I didn't know Poole auctions were still a thing, I used to love going there. Brought few pups in my time, 😂

[@oscarsgarage447]

They have a new venue out towards Wareham, really smart.

[@neilthorpe7650]

I bought my 1st car there. A 1984 red fiesta 950 poplar for £770. Drove it for a year, then sold it for £995. Might pop down there to get my son’s first car.

[@fotorabia]

I bought one of those Mercs.. 280E sight unseen for £1200..in New Zealand..its the engine being the selling point..2,8 twin cam injected...was a rust bucket..stuck it back on online starting at £1...and it went for £2800..happy days...

[@oscarsgarage447]

My numbers normally end up the other way around 😂

[@davidcannon1148]

Love the guy bumbling about in the outtakes

[@johnbriggs3916]

He made it into the video!

[@271chrissy]

When I look at cars like that green Rover ...I just laugh at how cheap they used to be. Still a banger car ..to me. God I'am getting older.

[@oscarsgarage447]

I said that at the time about my immaculate Capri which I sold for just £375... just a banger.

[@markf4720]

​@@oscarsgarage447 I still sometimes think of my B2 Audi 80 Quattro I sold for £350... And my BMW 635CSi Highline I sold for £2,500 😭

[@Markycarandbikestuff]

We all have stories like that, i knocked back a nice 72 Datsun 240Z in 1990 because at 19 years old i couldn't insure it, it was £1200, and the Jensen Interceptor in 2009, really nice blue car, cream leather, strong 440 Chrysler motor, running, driving, MOT, offered it to me for 10K (it was advertised for 14K), i didn't have 10K, should have ran to the bank and got a loan.

[@v12dot]

Bought a 1 owner split screen camper in 1988 for £450 . Welded her up , sprayed it baby blue and reupholstered. Sold her 2 years later for £750 . Thought I was the Scottish Arthur Daley 🙈

[@gasgas2689]

At 15:00 the guy was just continually holding up his bidding card. I bought some cars at auction where I was prepared to pay a lot more than the arguing bids. I just shouted out my highest offer and the other bidders shut up and I got it. Better in my opinion than getting dragged along 1k at a time. He got a brand new top of the range practical Mercedes, far superior to any of the new ones, for half the price of a starter Mercedes, or for the price of a posh Focus.

[@oscarsgarage447]

One bit of info, the bidding card guy had travelled from mainland Europe, maybe that's they way they bid over there?

[@gasgas2689]

@@oscarsgarage447 No, I am in England. Normal bidding is you raise your hand once, the bid goes up, you lower your hand, the other guy raises his hand and increases the bid, then you raise yours and increase your bid. That guy was going to buy the car whatever the price, and he wouldn't stop bidding till the other guy gave up.

[@MrTrapper28]

I didn’t know Paul Whitehouse sold cars!

[@oscarsgarage447]

I only film them, but got to do something between fishing trips. 😂

[@MrTrapper28]

@ 🤣🤣

[@ripvanwinkle3509]

Brilliant. As is milk :)

[@FredScuttle456]

Looks at an Escort and says, "Suits you sir. Ooh!"

[@darthvirago]

A sierra cosworth with a bit of fire damage in the engine bay and bonnet went for £50,000 yesterday. the ford guys like to spend their money.

[@oscarsgarage447]

Crikey!!! Where was that sold?

[@darthvirago]

@@oscarsgarage447 Anglia Car Auctions

[@darthvirago]

Lot no 572 if you look at their Sundays vid its about 1h 50 in.

[@frog-eye1420]

@@oscarsgarage447 ACAutions

[@oscarsgarage447]

Thanks!

[@flybobbie1449]

I paid 1500 quid in 85 for my TR7. I gave it to the garage i bought RX7 from. They didn't know i cracked the engine block and was 50 percent filler.

[@flybobbie1449]

Not sure the magnet on crane at scrap yard would find enough steel to lift it.

[@oscarsgarage447]

😂 😂 😂

[@davidsewell3745]

Really interesting video mate, well done, can't believe how much the merc went for, but not surprised as was an immaculate car

[@oscarsgarage447]

Glad you enjoyed it.

[@johnbee7729]

I am quite envious of you being in proximity to vintage car auctions. I think the nearest to me is about 2000 KM away.

[@oscarsgarage447]

Well hopefully I can pass on the experience.

[@trevdean540]

Its still a 1.3L 4 door escort at the end of the day even with the low miles & thats why it did not make the big money!We all wanted a Mexico ,RS2000, 1.3GT 2 door back in the day.We still want one today & will pay big money for one.

[@sinistercharger]

Try and feature some of the American stuff.I saw a nice 50s Truck there that you didn't mention

[@GPZ_Biker]

Good video Trev. Great format.

[@oscarsgarage447]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@Davidl-ux5ke]

I think in the long term the quality classic's like the bmw's and merc's will go up in value that merc is a perfect example

[@EdVanMeyer]

The rust you can't yet see is the problem.

[@oscarsgarage447]

Like an iceberg, only 10% shows itself...

[@FredScuttle456]

Interesting that a well-loved Ferrari goes for less than an Escort.

[@oscarsgarage447]

Much as I love the Escort, for the money I'd have the Ferrari...

[@1308wayne]

Great video again I love car auction but I am not allowed anymore cars ☹️

[@oscarsgarage447]

Thanks. Sorry to hear that... 😔

[@DavidBrown-bs7gg]

"Rally Boys" don't buy 4 door MK2 Escorts

[@AndrewNeilBaird]

I was asked to convert a 4 door to a 2 door . It was double the work I had estimated , that was in 1988 , in today's prices , 2500 plus parts . And then you will need to respray the whole shell .

[@richardbryant7505]

I've seen quite a few mate mainly road rally spec but with a bit of ingenuity you can five link them and do the usual 2 litre engine swap

[@Trevor7Spot]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oWOug3-iq6x2qc0si=JHVTN7hPayDJsuML

[@999hireactionvehicles9]

Good video sing the theme tune! That auctioneer seems familiar where have I seen him before

[@BarryRudge]

I think I would rather have the Ferrari Dino at £26750 than the Escort Mk1 Mexico at £30K fast fords atbhigh prices just do not cut it for me.

[@oscarsgarage447]

As much as I love fast Fords I couldn't pay that for it, but the Ferrari...

[@gar6446]

Ferrari is a timeless brand. Pretty soon anybody who even knows about Mexicos will be six foot under.

[@neilthorpe7650]

Nah I disagree. That Mexico will always be very desirable if kept in that condition. If I had the money…

[@Rialas]

Lot50 21,750 was me. No luck. Tried my best.

[@oscarsgarage447]

The Mercedes 230E - you were only one bid away!

[@Rialas]

@@oscarsgarage447 Yes, close, but no joy. w114 280E. It also had a misfire, but still sold for £22k.

[@bernardwarr4187]

I did say hello to you, you bid well and deserved it

[@Rialas]

@@bernardwarr4187👍 it was a good day out at least, see you at the next one.

[@markjones4253]

Some of those cars would have made more on different auction platforms

[@bugatti103]

learned to drive in mk2 1.3. escort... now got a Puma Thunder

[@besenzon1]

Love these auction videos ❤️

[@oscarsgarage447]

Glad you like them!

[@besenzon1]

@ maybe do a pre auction video to advertise the auction. With an update on the prices

[@dillo222]

Another great video as usual👍

[@oscarsgarage447]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@maverick4177]

Unless it’s an RS or a Mexico or something that warrants the price tag, hen i wouldn’t bother People asking silly money for an old base model3 series BMW are dreamers

[@oscarsgarage447]

Top end stuff will always do well, but people need to recalibrate expectations post covid 'boom' on more run of the mill cars.

[@paulchamberlain6284]

Fascinating stuff, very interesting!

[@oscarsgarage447]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@ianmontgomery7534]

I find it strange that the upper estimate is the value when the auctioneer deems the car to be sold. It should be the lower.

[@stephenburnage7687]

That's called a reverse or Dutch auction.

[@robinwells8879]

They’re the ultimate feel good purchase and I am not feeling that feel good feeling currently. I hope that people who want to use them will reoccupy the the market and displace the investors and curators who buy, store and forget these living treasures.

[@oscarsgarage447]

With the softening of prices I doubt many investors are speculating in the market at the moment so hopefully going to the right buyers.

[@matthewsmith1925]

My mums 1987 escort to turbo was in red which many were. Think most of the previous model rs turbos were white?

[@oscarsgarage447]

Think you are right... I mixed S2's in with S1's....

[@bernardwarr4187]

Great review. We saw you there, but thought you where part of the SWVA team

[@oscarsgarage447]

No I'm just a hanger on, always welcome to say hi!

[@johnbriggs3916]

​@@oscarsgarage447 Unless you're talking to camera at the time! (Expect those to be the next outtakes!)

[@oscarsgarage447]

😂

[@tecdesigns8183]

I don't understand Ford economics lol how the BMW 318is which is homologation one, can be worth less than a tatty xr3 with lipstick and a lot of rust is just mad.

[@oscarsgarage447]

Its an auction, it can occasionally do strange things...

[@tecdesigns8183]

@oscarsgarage447 just so odd considering how much work is needed on the xr3

[@davidcrawford8583]

RS Turbos were famously in white... yes, Series Ones. This is Series Two look-a-like.

[@oscarsgarage447]

Everyday is a school day... 😂

[@paulgeraghty1448]

Didn't do the e type. What went wrong?

[@oscarsgarage447]

There is a clip of the auction in my discussion with Owen, but I have to balance the number and mix of cars with length of the video I'm afraid.

[@peter3234]

Great vid Trevor. Thank you.

[@oscarsgarage447]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@andrewjohnson2129]

Where do you get these comentators from? 😂 Hands up who's ever seen a 4 door Escort rally car? 🤪

[@nicealloys]

is it tough to read because its a changing market , younger buyers looking for different cars ?

[@oscarsgarage447]

The market is definitely evolving.

[@chrisl7902]

£8K+ for a Mk 2 escort. My how times have changed. My wife sold hers 30 years ago for £300. It was a bit of a shit box mind 😂.

[@rover-t]

Just sold my 2005 Alfa 166 Facelift 2.0 for under 1000. Pleased it went to an enthusiast, but left a hole in my pocket.

[@Broomehall]

Anyone who paid 15/ 20k for a box standard Escort MK2 1300 0r 1600L in the boom of the last 2yrs has definitely had their fingers burnt ...... no matter how mint it was 😮

[@oscarsgarage447]

Yup, I think you are right...

[@bobfrankish8883]

Interesting video. Thank you.

[@oscarsgarage447]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@ianmontgomery7534]

gee a 308GT4 would be well over AUD100K here in Australia,

[@andybarbet73]

Nice to see the TR7 👍

[@oscarsgarage447]

It sure is!

[@awalk5177]

It looks like a buyers market right now, but I dont have space for any more. Isnt that always the case ? Prices (except for Fords) are really cheap. Without being political, there seems to be little optimism around. But then that big Mercedes really proved its value. "true worth at this current time" says it all.

[@oscarsgarage447]

I think really special cars will attract buyers (the old 'when will you see another' reason) but as you say for the rest its difficult.

[@timewilltella39]

Crazy money for that merc280e

[@mgbroadsterJ]

The Fiat Grand finale was the nicest .

[@oscarsgarage447]

I have a soft spot for it as well...

[@colinhutchinson5282]

Can't cover everything, but many good, and possibly more interesting, cars left out

[@oscarsgarage447]

Its difficult - if I include everything the video would be 2 hours long and few would watch. I do try and rotate what I feature each time to give variety.

[@SCR-ce2fs]

Thanks!

[@oscarsgarage447]

Super thanks! Really appreciated 😊

[@Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab]

This Gent reminds me of Paul Whitehouse from the Fast show! 😂

[@oscarsgarage447]

You are not the first to mention that... I'm just off fishing with Bob Mortimer though 😂

[@gar6446]

Genuine quality will always fetch good money, especially if putting a few miles on it a year won't ruin the value. But undesirable survivors aren't worth buying imo

[@dinkaman2160pukka]

joes r feeling the squeeze, no spare dosh :(

[@kevcard1599]

Who in their right mind pays 80k plus for a Sierra cosworth and other fords.. Thats the problem

[@calebrichards8111]

Most of those cars had a face only a mother could love.

[@oscarsgarage447]

Harsh... I love most of them, but then I'm ugly!

[@colinhutchinson5282]

Most "fast fords" weren't spectacularly fast 'in their time' never mind now ?!

[@oscarsgarage447]

Ah yes, but that's rose tinted nostalgia for you....

[@davel9359]

@@oscarsgarage447I had a two year old XR3i in 1987. It was rubbish.

[@davewhittles]

i had a rover vitesse

[@SA-zoom1]

That XR3i was cheap..

[@oscarsgarage447]

And they fired it up at the end of the auction and drove it away!

[@SA-zoom1]

@oscarsgarage447 if that was for sale locally for £4000 I would have bit the sellers hand off!

[@tonycraven8675]

Last clip you did well to bite ya tongue

[@oscarsgarage447]

It comes with territory...

[@leesouter9627]

Your comfort zone should include more yank cars.

[@cj9739-y7u]

Now we have starmer in charge I wouldn’t be surprised if he bans classic cars altogether in the next few months

[@cedhome7945]

You have nailed it exactly..... Only a matter of time.... That's why there being dumped fast

[@bod3157]

Said like a true Russian troll 😂

[@fydstar]

Nah it will just be more expensive to run and maintain classics as fossil fuel becomes harder to get cheaply and there will be less ICE mechanics.

[@RAW555R]

308 was so cheap

[@oscarsgarage447]

It was, it's a good job I have a full garage... lol

[@mahulad7298]

Imagine buying that Bently new, worst investment ever...🤦‍♂️

[@paulie19671]

Never wear black leather shoes and jeans 😂

[@oscarsgarage447]

They are brown shoes so I was OK.

[@ianbarnett5051]

No.

[@Bighand4]

The Ferrari was cheap

[@joebloggs1583]

Are people that nieve that they think the government are going to let them drive or own 30 grand Dagenham dustbins forever looking forward to the auction in 10 years time when there totally worthless and these idiots get a reality check😀👍

[@gazwolves9489]

Nope

[@cedhome7945]

Fools will always be parted from there money........

[@oscarsgarage447]

I usually am...

[@Paratus7]

Can you pick your feet up please…

[@oscarsgarage447]

Tell me about it. I had my head in my hands when I watched it back... hope the rest of the video made up for it!

[@alexandermichael117]

Over priced scrap, most of these cars do not exist, new parts, does not make a car, so, they should have been scraped years ago. I would never buy any car, older than ten years old.

[@nevertrustatory]

Have I just watched a new Paul Whitehouse character ?

[@oscarsgarage447]

Many think you may have done, not sure what we should call him though. Any ideas?

[@nevertrustatory]

How about Reg Trustworthy ?