CLASSIC DOCTOR WHO | Terror Of The Zygons - Part 3 | REACTION

[@bugsby4663]

Angus Lennie who plays the innkeeper was in the first Ice Warriors story. He was also in the Great Escape and would be in the soap opera Crossroads for many years.

[@DoctorWhoAdventures]

That nurse is so CREEPY!!! :O I love how Sarah Jane knew it was Harry just because he called her "old girl" xD

[@stimulusrespond]

My mother, on learning that the nurse was a Zygon: "I wonder how she fits all that head under such a small hat."

[@paulfrost8895]

That wasn 't the real nurse ' she was imprisoned and duplicated along with Harry and the rest of their abductee 's ' the Zygon creature assumed her image as a cover to get about without being captured ' shot eg.

[@blakesliberator3197]

The stories from Classic DW set on contemperary Earth are closer to home to me because they are more realistic in terms of the supporting cast. Everyone plays plausible everyday characters. This didn't jump out at me when I first watched them as a 70s child. But looking back, it really stands out. Classic DW is the era for me.

[@larrytalbot3824]

A great reaction!! - & your wee face when we see Forgill Castle!! :D The whole feel of this is very gothic horror, thanks greatly to Douglas Camfield's direction & lighting, - that nurse creeping about in the woods! & the eyeless socket of that stags head + we keep saying it but those Zygon costumes _are_ amazing, little wonder Jim Acheson went on to win oscars for costume design! I think he might have worked on 'Man of Steel' too? I love those massive explosions in the Loch! & there's something about the Zygons situation always reminds me of the 'Axons' with the organic tech & just generally the 'alienness' of them. And who doesn't love a secret door "behind ze bookcase!"📚🔦

[@LaughingGravy73]

Glad you spotted The Fox Goes Free pub. I went there a few years ago whilst on holiday and loved the place. There used to be a photograph of Terror of the Zygons on the wall in the bar. Classic Hinchcliffe/Baker and a 10 out of 10 for me.

[@davidkeel]

Hi I have just heard that this episode was partly filmed at Heyshott and Ambersham Common at Heyshott near Midhurst. There's lots of heather and Scotch pine trees there. And now you've mentioned the Fox Goes Free at Charlton near Goodwood ! That's amazing. I thought it looked familiar.

[@frankshailes3205]

I suppose since they've been living here for several centuries it's not an "Invasion of the Zygons" and there is nothing for them to have revenge for, yet!

[@Percyfan1998]

Love that you’re digging this story! I find it’s so underrated, very rarely in top 10s will you find it higher than no.10 or even just a special mention.

[@blakesliberator3197]

3:41 The way that deer's eye just 'looks' at him is just...bizarre!

[@nimbusco8956]

I'm American, but my impression is that if you are within a day's drive of London, you'd be hard pressed to NOT be near a Doctor Who filming location :)

[@Eltonlaleham]

I do say there are only 2 female characters in this story Sarah and the nurse whose surname is Lamont

[@CountScarlioni]

Not to also sound like a total psychopath but I also enjoy the killings! Characters meeting untimely, and often grisly ends is part of what builds the sense of threat in a Doctor Who adventure. Victories should feel like they came at a cost. I have friends who won't let their kids watch Doctor who today for the fear that they'll be traumatised by it. I would think that surely wrapping a child in too much cotton wool is just as damaging. As a kid I found the mild horror offered by Doctor Who to be awesome! But maybe that's why I grew up to be the loony I am today!

[@paulfrost8895]

Whispering aliens.

[@johng5859]

Exciting that you know that pub - you made me smile when talking about walking on the same ground as Benton! You may know this already, but "Loch Ness" is Furnace Pond in Crabtree. For the time, the effects work showing the Zygon ship rising out of the water is remarkably good. The interior, as well, successfully evokes an organic environment - on the DVD commentary, Tom Baker compares the ship's control panel to an American hot pizza. Some nice performances in this episode too. John Woodnutt excels both as the Duke of Forgill and Broton, despite the Zygon costume being difficult to wear. That little character moment between Sarah Jane and Harry is also really sweet, when she recognises he is the real Harry because he says "old girl". If you look at production photos of this story, you will see that the guy playing Caber, the Duke's servant, looked nothing like that in real life.

[@paulfrost8895]

Think this was filmed the same year I went on holiday to Scotland around 74/75 ' the only time i been north of the border ' nearly half a century now ' scary.

[@alexfletcher5192]

Let's face it, if this was a Hollywood film (particularly now) they would descend to the Zygon ship by submersible or something, under attack from Zygons with exotic death rays, and maybe the Skarasen, and the Doctor would have to open the airlock at the last minute with the Sonic - They just didn't have the time, the money, or the inclination. Why bother with that when you can use the old 'secret passage behind a bookcase' ploy? Instead, they throw the money where it's needed: the blobby Zygons; their pizza-topping control boards and their strangely hard-shelled spaceship.

[@bendailey6070]

I also preferred the classic Who episodes that took place on Earth with UNIT. One reason is that whenever he arrived on an alien world or ship, he generally had to spend at least a quarter of the show convincing everyone that he wasn't the enemy/killer. On Earth he didn't have that problem with the Brigadier. It was almost like he was returning home.

[@whobp8]

Funny how, in your reactions to Pertwee's first season, you couldn't wait for him to get away and have some adventures in space, but now you're so thrilled to see the Doctor back with UNIT. Of course, a certain tall, handsome sergeant has something to do with that 😄.

[@tombaxter6228]

Harry AND Benton in the same story? If someone filmed you, just then, with a thermographic camera, you would be seen gently steaming... 😆😆

[@kranser]

The novelisation that came out in the 1970s was called 'Doctor Who and the Loch ness Monster' - confusing as no mention of the Zygons in the title!

[@ftumschk]

I guess they thought that putting Nessie in the title would attract the more general leader. I seem to remember that the Loch Ness Monster was frequently in the media at the time, perhaps reflecting a wider interest in magic and mystery. Books, films and documentaries on ghosts, the occult, UFOs, the Bermuda Triangle and Erich von Däniken's "ancient aliens" best-sellers were hugely popular in the 70s. I know, because I avidly read or watched most of them!

[@whobp8]

It was a standard practice with the early Target novelizations to give them simplified titles to theoretically make them more appealing to children. So The Silurians became The Cave Monsters and Frontier in Space became The Space War, etc. No one would know what the word Zygons meant if they hadn't seen the episode or read the book, but everyone had heard of the Loch Ness Monster

[@ftumschk]

@@whobp8 True enough. Perhaps the novelisation of Terror of the Autons should have been called "Doctor Who and the Daffodils of Death" ;)

[@kranser]

​@@whobp8 ......and then you get to Robot ;) But, Marie-Clare did say it was massive before its growth spurt!

[@johng5859]

kranser For a long time, while it was in development, the TV story went under the name Secret of Loch Ness, but Hinchcliffe changed the title because he thought the Zygons were the more important element of the story, and in any case he didn't want there to be too much publicity given to the less-than-perfect Skarasen...

[@Jamienomore]

I have an idea how you feel about walking on the same ground as Benton. I once slept in the same bed as Samantha Fox. What a GREAT DREAM I had that night and for the next two weeks. It wan't her eyes I was looking at. I totally agree the Doctor and UNIT are great stories.

[@ianmansfield68]

I've never seen the modern Zygons having stopped watching new Who some years ago but these originals still look great now - creepy, scary, covered in sucker shapes that make my skin crawl. I love the spaceship, totally random shape with no attempt to make it look like anything else you've seen before in Sci Fi - very original! I agree with you about the location - it was weird for me watching Frontier in Space that was shot in parts of London I was totally familiar with as a kid.

[@philippaine2169]

Great reaction as always glad your enjoying it 😀

[@julieeverett7442]

you love Earth bound UNIT stories because UNIT became his family when he was exiled on Earth as 3rd ans has THE greatest companion of them all (not Sarah Jane, not Jamie, the Brig - though most old who fans call Sarah THE companion!) And yeah this is one enjoyable story. Are you beginning to understand why for many fans 4th is THE doctor, the one all others are judged by?

[@ElectroTherapyFTSoul]

Your love for Benton is adorable! I love him too!... I'd go gay for him.

[@GreatHealer.]

Something sinister about that nurse in the woods..

[@mudcrab3420]

1:17 - Semi random story - Back a few years ago I was at my local Fruit and Veg and there was this girl who was... ummm... 8 I guess there with her mother. Some of the produce had clearly wronged her and having trapped one on the floor was mushing it into paste. "Die, Snowpie! Die!" Then her Mum noticed and flipped out at her. So yeah, watching that bit of dialogue in DW makes me smile :D

[@TheZodiacz]

This episode aired on 13th September 1975- 45 years ago.

[@princeeverlove]

Let bygones be bygones...and let Zygons be Zygons......

[@toddbeilby6484]

A great episode and another great reaction and observations 😊🤗 So enjoyable 💕

[@Cruithneach]

It's strange how large tracts of the Highlands look exactly like Sussex. I feel foolish never to have noticed before

[@Jamestopboy]

I can describe Tom Baker’s run as the Doctor in one simple sentence: “oh, look, DEATH! (Also, FABULOUSNESS!)”

[@sixstanger00]

The classic series definitely wasn't as kid-friendly when it came to body counts. In fact, many fans have criticized NuWho for it's "everybody lives!" approach. The thing is, without the danger of death, the stakes are always limited. That's why NuWho has lost it's punch -- characters seldom die, and when they do they are often resurrected in some fashion, so no one ever really "dies." NuWho has been notorious for "killing" major characters only to resurrect them one episode later. For example, the opening monologue to _Army of Ghosts_ says that Rose dies, yet the end of the story reveals this to be nothing more than a red herring for audience's sake. Jack Harkness is killed then resurrected. The Master is killed, then resurrected. Bill Potts is killed, then resurrected. On and on. There's nothing at stake and these "deaths" have no emotional impact because I know in the next episode, they'll be alive and well again.

[@aregvaetrhg7376]

Barely any major characters get killed in Classic Who also.

[@sixstanger00]

@@aregvaetrhg7376 You're right, but that's because they aren't constantly "killed" and then "resurrected," because in the classic universe, this is not feasible. When people die, they stay dead. There is no waving a magic wand/sonic screwdriver and pushing some cosmic "reset button." Characters didn't die because death MEANT SOMETHING. It was an irreversible consequence, thus lending to high stakes. In classic Who, you best avoid being shot by a Dalek. Because if you do, that's curtains. In NuWho, if you get shot by a Dalek, it probably just means the writer wrote the scene for cheap thrills and in the next episode it'll all be explained away. For example, Rose is shot by Anne-Droid in "Bad Wolf," and despite this looking exactly like the previous deaths, this ONE instance was actually a teleportation beam to a Dalek ship. Convenient, huh? Then there's _The Magician's Apprentice,_ where Clara is shot and vaporized by a Dalek on-screen, only to be resurrected in the following episode. Jack Harkness is shot by a Dalek in "Parting of the Ways," but is resurrected by Rose. Amy Pond is killed by an Auton in "The Pandorica Opens," only to be resurrected in the following episode. I could go on, of course. But the point is, how many Classic Who characters were "killed" on screen like this, only to be resurrected later?

[@aregvaetrhg7376]

@@sixstanger00 Oh yeah, I agree, Moffat in particular abused that trope.

[@sixstanger00]

@@aregvaetrhg7376 That's an understatement. Rory was "killed" so many times that it became a running gag within the show, a meme on social media, and many fans comparing him to Daniel Jackson's character in Stargate SG-1 (who also had a tendency to "die," only to be resurrected). Moffat's problem was that he often wrote stakes *_too high,_* to the point where he'd be forced to break internal logic in order to write himself out corners. I think River Song is probably the premiere example. He built up her character to the extent of being space Jesus; someone so fundamentally important to the Doctor that there was really no satisfactory answer he could've wrote. In the end, even he had no idea where to go or what to do with her character, so the "big reveal" was that River Song is.... ....the current companions' daughter.

[@mudcrab3420]

You are wrong, Sixstanger. Bill Potts wasn't killed then resurrected. She was killed, resurrected and then TURNED INTO A PUDDLE!!! Sigh.

[@alexfletcher5192]

I remember when the earthbound stories began, you weren't entirely enamoured of the set-up. It just goes to show how things can get embedded after a while.

[@joshbostock_2040]

I have to agree with you, so far this is my favourite from Tom, however there are some worthly contenders in this season.

[@eclecticdog2k901]

Tom's look at the retreating monster at the beginning of the episode (about 2:12 to 2:14) is probably my favorite moment of the story and never fails to make me laugh....it's so "WHAT did I just witness?" that it looks as though he's reacting to how fake it looks. XD I think the dinosaurs in Invasion of the Dinosaurs looked much better, for all their notoriety (and had a substantially better script behind them). That said, this is probably my favorite episode of this serial. The pacing, character interactions, and story in general take a step up. And that nurse is CREEPY! Love her. And of course I adore the moment where Sarah sticks out her tongue at the Caber! This story may note be a favorite of mine, but it does have some great moments from the TARDIS team.

[@mark-s]

Great timing can see this third part reaction before work only minor mistake this episode is that harry spends the episode a prisoner locked up love scary castles with secret trap doors this is a brilliant story

[@mikeoxmaul3449]

Great episode. looking beautiful as always 🤩🤩😍

[@CRINOTH]

Interesting what you say about us all having our preferences... Hmm, I think one of the things that usually lifts a story for me would be a historical setting of some kind - I'm not saying that's anywhere near essential but stories set in Earth's past probably get an automatic 1 point bonus when I score them out of 10. :)

[@stuartwho]

It’s not always feathers and butterflies. Very profound.

[@owenwildish331]

that's one googly-eyed deer head, not really a spoiler but episode 4 will be fun... :)

[@kemmdog4444]

If you look closely you can see the top of a microphone in Broton’s top chest sucker.

[@oddjob5589]

still loving this story, and loving the red polka dots you look lovely

[@stephensinclair3771]

Do the Zygons have a stinger?? The Zygons ship is one of the best effects in the classic show.

[@bcsr4ever]

I'm just going to add this to the season 12 story ark, tie a nice little bow, and call it my most memorable season. Bring on season 13. lol.

[@AmyWarriorPrincess]

Don't forget Tom Baker has blue eyes too. 😁😁

[@joshsimmons6156]

Terror of the Walking Talking Pizzas

[@selkie76]

"They're in my turf." - Funny, you don't sound at all Scottish. ^.~

[@ajivins1]

Nothing in that pub to commemorate the filming there? I went to Margate once and a pub there had loads of photos of the cast of 'Only Fools-' on the walls as they filmed there.

[@johntomlinson6849]

Nope, I had dinner in that pub two years back and there's nothing there.

[@MarieClaresWorld]

Really? I am going there soon so I will see if they have added anything!

[@ftumschk]

@@MarieClaresWorld They're missing a marketing opportunity - I'd certainly be up for a Zygon pizza. A bit of creative sculpture with mushrooms and peperoni should do the trick.

[@davidbull7210]

Which pub? Doubt I went there as I was rather unwell when I was in Margate.

[@ajivins1]

@@davidbull7210 Think it was the Bull or Boar.

[@kevinmilner2916]

Is it just me or do the Zygons look like walking tongues. Lol

[@drwho-hj1pu]

Too bad sgt Benton did not make more apprences after 1975.