Classical Composer Reacts to The Phantom of the Opera (Nightwish) | The Daily Doug (Episode 86)

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Doug Helvering

Doug Helvering

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@laalratty
@laalratty 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny because I LOVE Phantom of the Opera and this is nowhere near my favourite version of it, lack of pipe organs for one, lol. I'm fairly certain the original starts in Dm though, then to Gm, Em, Fm Gm before finishing in Am with the last note a high E. Nice reaction and I look forward to more Nightwish ones.
@Doug.Helvering
@Doug.Helvering 3 жыл бұрын
I had to check this...you're right! Kudos and thanks for the correction.
@laalratty
@laalratty 3 жыл бұрын
​@@Doug.Helvering Thanks, I had to double check myself - paused the video and got my copy of the score, lol. Glad you liked this song.
@Doug.Helvering
@Doug.Helvering 3 жыл бұрын
@@laalratty I just remember playing the main riff in C minor in high school...old memories die hard...
@pete_lind
@pete_lind 3 жыл бұрын
@@Doug.Helvering Tarja Turunen does this song still with her band , male vocalist do not match Marko Hietalas voice and also Tarja does not go as high at the end . Tarja Turunen - The Phantom of the Opera 2014 , in Argentina , kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIrdnnSHgtiFaMU 6 min 54 sec , pipe organ in beginning .
@novalechuck7498
@novalechuck7498 3 жыл бұрын
@@Doug.Helvering do a Reaction to Nightwish "Shoemaker" Official Video kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJvTkHecq6-co8k
@johnekare8376
@johnekare8376 3 жыл бұрын
"I'm not going anywhere NEAR that discussion..." That's the mark of a wise man. Jokes aside, I really appreciate your stance on this. I think we could all benefit from a little less comparing and a little more enjoying excellent artists for who THEY are.
@davidpardy
@davidpardy 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed 100%.
@HauntSlider
@HauntSlider 3 жыл бұрын
I have seen every version of the band so far (We will see what happens with Marko leaving as I have tickets to the first show in L.A. this year) and every singer and member has been amazing in their own right. Smart to stay away from the argument. It's the music world's version of "Coke vs Pepsi"
@joeysmith5086
@joeysmith5086 3 жыл бұрын
@@HauntSlider Only difference is that Floor and Tarja are both great... Pepsi not so much. :P
@mschumacher3196
@mschumacher3196 3 жыл бұрын
By the way, Floor and Tarja are friends in real life.
@chardonnay5767
@chardonnay5767 3 жыл бұрын
Well I'm a fan of both of them, so I get upset no matter which one someone deems "superior" to the other. Their voice qualities are so different that trying to make a competition out of it is always somewhat forced.
@thomasnimstad2543
@thomasnimstad2543 Жыл бұрын
Marko and Tarja. Best version ever. Still gives me goosebumps.
@chrissampson6861
@chrissampson6861 3 жыл бұрын
For me it's Marko's singing that makes this my favourite version of the song, all the other phantom's I've heard have been too clean they don't sound like dangerous guys that have been hiding in the basement nursing their obsession for decades.
@AleDrinkingSpirit
@AleDrinkingSpirit 2 жыл бұрын
There is a version by Lacrimosa, where Thilo really sounds like the ultimate madmen. Even more than Marko. But I prefer Marko's singing as he sounds dangerous, mad, but still kind of ... attractive? I mean, the Phantom once was the star of the opera. ;-)
@chrissampson6861
@chrissampson6861 2 жыл бұрын
@@AleDrinkingSpirit will check that out.
@andrewawakened628
@andrewawakened628 3 жыл бұрын
6:39 "I imagine that's the kinda sound that Lloyd Webber wanted to have..." Yes - Andrew Lloyd Webber has actually said on record that he heard this version and it is his favorite!
@ialeixo84
@ialeixo84 3 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me the source? I've heard of it, but I never actually found where he said it.
@NickBR57
@NickBR57 3 жыл бұрын
Lloyd Webber wanted the sound that Sarah Brightman had, one has to assume. Unless, like me, you think he cast Sarah Brightman because she was his partner. I never liked her voice. Actually, maybe it's just my ears, but that high D sounded just a tad flat to me.
@andrewawakened628
@andrewawakened628 3 жыл бұрын
@@NickBR57 no - not the voice, we meant the instruments.
@NickBR57
@NickBR57 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewawakened628 Ah, sorry, misunderstood
@m.vondrake5534
@m.vondrake5534 3 жыл бұрын
@@NickBR57 A.L.W. had said a few times and even magazine interviews in print that he wished he wrote and recorded the song the way NIGHTWISH did it.
@jimmyboy131
@jimmyboy131 3 жыл бұрын
One answer to the question of "Which Nightwish singer is the best?" that is fair, safe, and close to the truth is: Marco.
@moesko
@moesko 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I feel like he is not appreciated enough in these videos :D Also, compared to this era, he is often just mixed as a background vocalist when he sings next to Floor.
@147pablox
@147pablox 3 жыл бұрын
No.
@141pio
@141pio 3 жыл бұрын
he used to be the best for me also now he left nightwish and i can say NW is rip to me
@ВолодимирШеврон
@ВолодимирШеврон 3 жыл бұрын
its true, LOL
@dreadlord7526
@dreadlord7526 Жыл бұрын
They were at their peak with Tarja and Marco
@galdanag
@galdanag 3 жыл бұрын
Actually No... We don't want you to compare Floor and Tarja. We are aware that both are great, both are different with different strengths, and we are just happy that we got to enjoy these two GREAT singers sing with this band we love. Same with Marco, who's also an outstanding singer.
@KristiinaBerg
@KristiinaBerg 3 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@richardgoddard37
@richardgoddard37 3 жыл бұрын
I liked Annette too. She was fantastic on the albums.
@joeysmith5086
@joeysmith5086 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardgoddard37 I didn't start listening to Nightwish until Annette had her second album with the band so she was the first for me. Then I backtracked to Tarja and fast-forwarded to Floor. It was like the Insidious movies 😂 for me.
@grantvaldez434
@grantvaldez434 3 жыл бұрын
@@joeysmith5086 same
@Relyx
@Relyx 3 жыл бұрын
@@joeysmith5086 Amaranth was the first Nightwish song I heard, and I remember loving it and just binging the back catalogue with Tarja. Annete's voice is nice, and fits Dark Passion Play well. Tarja is a great operatic singer. Then you've got Floor who is the best of both worlds imo and I actually prefer to both. Which is a shame as I haven't liked any of the music they've made with Floor.
@ellenbones
@ellenbones Жыл бұрын
Wow......Tarja is nailing it, what a great opera voice. And Marko is awesome
@HiTekCowboy
@HiTekCowboy 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think that we Nightwish fans are blessed to have three amazing lead female vocalists
@jrdn31195
@jrdn31195 3 жыл бұрын
2*
@camilaanrique3891
@camilaanrique3891 3 жыл бұрын
3*
@kimberlyh.1090
@kimberlyh.1090 3 жыл бұрын
And then to also have/have had Marco.
@ACorpseWithoutSoul
@ACorpseWithoutSoul 3 жыл бұрын
Anette was horrible singer in Nightwish. She was just like a ABBA singer.
@n3493
@n3493 3 жыл бұрын
@@ACorpseWithoutSoul Abba singers are great. And I guess you don't know anything about singing cause Anette in her style was amazing.
@devilslightbeam
@devilslightbeam 3 жыл бұрын
Don't be afraid to pause to talk and get out what you want to say so you don't feel rushed to keep paying attention to the music while getting your thoughts out. We're here to listen to what you have to say more than the music good sir.
@chilesuicmez
@chilesuicmez 3 жыл бұрын
agree! BUT i think he might evade a little copy righ by speaking over the song, we have heard all this songs plenty of times.
@MikkoRantalainen
@MikkoRantalainen 3 жыл бұрын
@@chilesuicmez That's just old ladies story. KZbin Content ID can successfully detect the audio no matter how much you pause.
@MikkoRantalainen
@MikkoRantalainen 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, every reactor should pause as much as they need for *their own* comments. Fans should go to original video or album if they just want to hear the original performance. That said, some fans seem to think that if you pause you should rewind e.g. 5 seconds (press cursor left button on your keyboard) before continuing to be sure not to miss anything.
@sirraf23
@sirraf23 2 ай бұрын
​@@MikkoRantalainen what the fuck are you talking about? We're here to listen to it with him and watch his reaction, not listen to him commentate over the entire thing.
@xfortunesquex
@xfortunesquex 3 жыл бұрын
Marko sounds like an utter madman to a classically trained singer, especially with how he does this song. I love the contrast with Tarja's voice! They are both so fabulous. Sidenote: I would love to see a version of this with Tarja as Christine and Floor as the Phantom. Edit: Good man! I do not do singer vs wars with any vocalists either! With Nightwish and the 3 ladies they've had singing for them, it's like comparing an apple, banana, and strawberry. It's pure nonsense!
@jimmyggs91
@jimmyggs91 3 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%. Marko has to sing really high to harmonize with Tarja, which is a soprano. That's not an easy feat. So always when I see that discussion "Tarja, Anette or Floor, who's the best?" I answer "Marko". He's more than just a bass player and backup vocalist, he's really good at what he does!
@waragainstsleepx2517
@waragainstsleepx2517 3 жыл бұрын
I actually think that different Nightwish tracks suit different singers. I assume Tuomas wrote for the singer he had at the time to some extent. Phantom is perfect the way Tarja and Marko did it (though I suspect Florr would do it great too), GLS and Storytime the way Floor does them are absolute perfection. I really love Annette's voice for Amaranth. That lovely, bouncy quality that scandinavian singers have fits it so well.
@johnrose5482
@johnrose5482 3 жыл бұрын
@@waragainstsleepx2517 Floor did a great version on Beste Zangers with Henk Poort (who PLAYED the Phantom). REALLY impressive. So hard to choose; Henk is a powerful baritone, but Marko SOUNDS like a villain... and, of course, Floor and Tarja are both … incredible.
@matthiaskellner9331
@matthiaskellner9331 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnrose5482 Hard to choose ? I tell you a secret ! ;-) You dont have to choose ! Listen to both ! :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
@johnrose5482
@johnrose5482 3 жыл бұрын
Oddly, that IS my choice... I DO have preferences of course, but Phantom and Ever Dream are two of the "damn, BOTH ladies do SUCH a good job" songs...
@Medieval_Arpad_cooks
@Medieval_Arpad_cooks 3 жыл бұрын
Marko said Alright!
@adamtaylor9617
@adamtaylor9617 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, but I first heard it as "all rise!" Which is some how far cooler
@althalusian
@althalusian 3 жыл бұрын
I believe it really is 'all rise' which would make sense at least as a straight Finnish-to-English translation, calling everybody to stand up in case someone managed to stay seated during that.
@Evil_Peter
@Evil_Peter 3 жыл бұрын
It's definitely "all right". A 't' sound can be somewhat 's' sounding when you drag it out but it would have been much clearer if he actually said "rise".
@andresweiland3714
@andresweiland3714 3 жыл бұрын
@@adamtaylor9617 or "ohhhh riiisssse"
@zabber67
@zabber67 3 жыл бұрын
LOL "no cell phones". Those were the days. Then again, if they had cell phones at that show, all their screens would probably have cracked when Tarja hit those high notes😁.
@ThisIsWar734
@ThisIsWar734 9 ай бұрын
With Tarja...❤ That was Fall, Helsinki, Finland 2005, "End of an Era" Tour concert. I was 18 then, I'm now 37. Marko said "Well alright" in a slow roll of the tongue at the end. This was the last time we heard the Siren, the Viking, the Pirate, the Vampire & the Zombie all perform together. I'll never forget it... Cheers from Portland, OR! 🍻😎 Thank you for sporting this reaction vid!!!
@Rippler666
@Rippler666 3 жыл бұрын
Mad respect for not falling into the bottomless pit that is Tarja vs Floor debate.
@RockYourBrand
@RockYourBrand 3 жыл бұрын
if you'd like to hear how Floor sings Phantom of the Opera. She does an amazing duet with Henk Poort, who is the Dutch Phantom. They duet together on a Dutch TV show called Beste Zangers.
@GAIS414
@GAIS414 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, Henk has a pretty cool voice too.
@tomdegoede7565
@tomdegoede7565 3 жыл бұрын
@@GAIS414 Yep, he even goes metal for a moment....
@RealRuler2112
@RealRuler2112 3 жыл бұрын
Floor is absolutely amazing.
@eddys.3524
@eddys.3524 3 жыл бұрын
I know the clip... it's a very good performance too, with Henk singing with distortion for the first time.
@erikkooijman2085
@erikkooijman2085 3 жыл бұрын
Floor and Henk Poort where amazing in their duet, Henk Poort was the Phantom in the Dutch musical. Totally agree, Doug"s overall respect to musicians.
@TedinCalgary1952
@TedinCalgary1952 3 жыл бұрын
First, have some happy news to make sure you are aware of -- Floor and Tarja are great friends, speak often, and as recently as December 9, 2020, Tarja hosted an Instagram "livestream" where she interviewed Floor (see "Instagram Live With Floor Jansen", at kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJWpYnSaeLSreKM). Always great to know the two singers themselves get along well (and no doubt share some "singing tips" in the process)! Tarja's best video, I feel, is "Until My Last Breath", available at kzbin.info/www/bejne/fV7MZaqLidmekMU, currently with about 11 million views. Beautifully staged and shot, the composition is one of her best -- in recent live shows she was using it as the climax to her performance. Finally, yes I agree with all of the other commenters that you absolutely MUST watch Floor and Henk's "Phantom of the Opera" at kzbin.info/www/bejne/pp2mhJagq6mCgK8. The Beste Zangers series has an advantage over the recordings of many live concert performances, as it was filmed in a TV studio specifically equipped to highlight the vocal mix. Keep well ...
@King_Conan
@King_Conan 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite era of Nightwish by far, and what a POWERFUL version of the Phantom of the Opera.
@jarkkokyntaja4073
@jarkkokyntaja4073 3 жыл бұрын
Never get tired of this version. It´s awesome. Good to you, Doug, for discovering this gem.
@waynesmith5442
@waynesmith5442 2 жыл бұрын
Love this arrangement. Marko kills it. Tarja's vocals are so good and that D6 she hits at the end is spot on
@Donna-C
@Donna-C 3 жыл бұрын
Did you catch Marko at 3:45 making the “eye glass spectacle” as The Phantom. 👌🏻 He portrays this “crazed / demented phantom” perfectly!
@KristiinaBerg
@KristiinaBerg 3 жыл бұрын
All rise (for Tarja). If you know the history, you understand the significance.
@bassslap2001
@bassslap2001 3 жыл бұрын
THE most important part of all this is that, they are bringing young people into the classics. Cultivating ears towards more.
@jeffjdt
@jeffjdt 3 жыл бұрын
Marko will be missed so much!!
@damianvc31
@damianvc31 3 жыл бұрын
Bravo for not comparing the singers! They are both fantastic in their own right, after that it's just personal taste Plus they are actually very good friends
@MisterHowzat
@MisterHowzat 9 ай бұрын
Another fantastic reaction, Doug! This is by far my favourite version or cover of POTO and yours is my favorite reaction. Once again, your vast professional knowledge is both educating and entertaining. Also appreciate your comment and wisdom regarding comparing Floor and Tarja.
@nikvalentincic9764
@nikvalentincic9764 3 жыл бұрын
If you want to See Marco's clear vocal, please do Nightwish - The Islander (Live At Tampere)
@JanOlofSvensson
@JanOlofSvensson 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, or Kiss while your lips are still red, live at Wembley.
@OsoAloc
@OsoAloc 3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, "High Hopes" was his best performance
@NostaMorwen
@NostaMorwen 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for not entering the discussion. I think it's being long enough. We who we were fans of Nightwish with Tarja were thrilled when Floor stepped in because most of us we knew her from After Forever, and therefore we know they are both real Queens at singing. The best way to be thankful to the great gift they give us with their performances is to respect them and stop the eternal fight. So they might actually give us a duet someday with Nightwish!!!
@erniedinda509
@erniedinda509 3 жыл бұрын
Amen, what you said about the singers is straight up right on. They are both fantastic singers and each brings a different and unique tone and take on each song they perform.
@Lopyswine
@Lopyswine Жыл бұрын
I also love that you can tell they are having so much fun up on stage.
@Lopyswine
@Lopyswine Жыл бұрын
Tarja is an angel from heaven.
@morganrae1680
@morganrae1680 3 жыл бұрын
The comments you made about comparing singers is spot on. They are both amazing and should not be compared.
@priscilaviana2175
@priscilaviana2175 2 жыл бұрын
"I've heard this song hundreds of times but not from this band" Mate, you're in for a treat.
@chris-fc9im
@chris-fc9im 3 жыл бұрын
All three singers are awesome.
@shaunjp2211
@shaunjp2211 3 ай бұрын
This is Andrew Lloyd Webbers favourite version of this music and song. Both Floor and Tarja are renowned for certain performances ocean and this end of era concert are unbelievable with Tarja & Marko.
@davidputterman2719
@davidputterman2719 3 жыл бұрын
Andrew Lloyd Weber said that this was his favorite version. As a side note, the keyboardist, Toumas Holopainen's favorite composer is Hans Zimmer.
@davguev
@davguev 3 жыл бұрын
Really? When did ALW say that?
@garymitchell5899
@garymitchell5899 3 жыл бұрын
@@davguev Very unlikely. ALW literally set up the original and subsequent productions.
@davidputterman2719
@davidputterman2719 3 жыл бұрын
@@davguev It's my understanding that he informed Nightwish of that.
@eddys.3524
@eddys.3524 3 жыл бұрын
Ah.... that explains the use of the main theme from King Arthur years ago at the end of their shows.
@davidputterman2719
@davidputterman2719 3 жыл бұрын
@@eddys.3524 You can definitely hear hints of Hans Zimmer in Tuomas' works.
@TheRealMediaMan
@TheRealMediaMan 3 жыл бұрын
Now this is more like it. Classical composer and its taken him this long to get to the real heart and soul of nightiwsh
@charbelgheya338
@charbelgheya338 3 жыл бұрын
Finally he got to it
@lavrentivs9891
@lavrentivs9891 3 жыл бұрын
I saw them earlier on that tour, Tarja's voice really caressed your heart, especially during the more emotional pieces.
@BahmanBikesAndGuitars
@BahmanBikesAndGuitars 3 жыл бұрын
you gave your opinion as a true musician and closed the discussion for me thank you! Cheers 🍻
@map7049
@map7049 3 жыл бұрын
Same concert... Slaying the dreamer
@kentrice1958
@kentrice1958 Жыл бұрын
Well done, Doug. Appreciate bringing both theory and emotion into your analysis!
@octo448
@octo448 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! I really love this cover by them, and since it's one of the few covers we have (High Hopes being another one) to enjoy from them. I'm glad you can enjoy the singers individually for who they are, and I think that's the right way to go as well. That way we can have you react to them all!
@thomaslajeunesse5011
@thomaslajeunesse5011 3 жыл бұрын
No, we Nightwish fans don't ask that question. Each one of the three singers have their own style, and each is very good at what she does. We usually stay away from this specific question, and praise each and every one of them. Kudos for not answering that. :)
@Paintiron
@Paintiron 3 жыл бұрын
Not true at all. We Nightwish fans don't ask that question because we know that Anette Olzon was a mistake.
@isab.c.6702
@isab.c.6702 3 жыл бұрын
@@Paintiron About NW we could call a lot of things "a mistake", so, we better not discuss that, in fact, in my opinion, Anette doesn't have the best voice, betwen the 3, but the worst albums were made with Floor, even that her voice is amazing, so, better not talk about it like our friend Thomas said above hahah
@Paintiron
@Paintiron 3 жыл бұрын
@@isab.c.6702 I disagree about worse albums but that's not what I'm talking about. Being good or bad singer is one thing. Being singer who just stops singing and goes off stage is terrible. For me and many more NW fans Anette could never be part of the band and nothing would change. Question that is never asked among NW fans is for example - if Marco will be missed.
@isab.c.6702
@isab.c.6702 3 жыл бұрын
@@Paintiron but I think NW fans where very bad to Anette, I feel bad for her, think she could be better if she had some support.
@duikmans
@duikmans 3 жыл бұрын
@@Paintiron Please don't start the Tarja vs Anette flame wars again. 5 years of it was more than enough.
@Rosannasfriend
@Rosannasfriend 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your mature stance. I appreciate you not taking the bait from any fans . I see people below denying that fans ask that question, but it doesn’t take long to search comments from the past and see that. Anyway, like you said both singers bring their experiences, TRAINING ., and styles and they should each be respected.
@martin6181
@martin6181 3 жыл бұрын
One thing you should know about this performance, and why Tarja sounded a little out of breath at times and why she left the stage so quickly, was that she had a terrible case of the flu. Between just about every song she ran out to the dressing room to throw up, and still she managed to sing like that with such energy.
@Scoutboe
@Scoutboe 3 жыл бұрын
You looked up the pronunciation of Tarja's name! Nice touch
@chilesuicmez
@chilesuicmez 3 жыл бұрын
i love how you passed over the lyrics, as soon as you heard them performing at top level, you didnt mind, they HAD to hit the notes, and put style and performance, but you were deeep in the little things as the cellphones in the audience or if they stayed or departed from the original source. i KNOW the internet would be intereseted in any other genre, metal and non metal, being reacted on surface level with your style, from how radio hits are just the same progression, bpm, and chorus verse-chorus etc, to the ''weird'' syles all over the music spectrum, from an actual old piece, to k-pop. im so thrilled, this is growing steady, be thinking about some t-shirts chief!
@PK--ITA
@PK--ITA 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reaction and thanks for the encouragement to compare these two great female singers. As you say, everyone has their own and only their own voice and uses it. Dot.
@Qwarzz
@Qwarzz 3 жыл бұрын
I kinda wish Tuomas would write a proper rock musical some day :)
@jonniiinferno9098
@jonniiinferno9098 3 жыл бұрын
?? we thought he had =P
@emmaofdragons2720
@emmaofdragons2720 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't he already do that..??!! "Imaginareum" and "life and adventure of Scrooge"...?!
@jonniiinferno9098
@jonniiinferno9098 3 жыл бұрын
@@emmaofdragons2720 - that is precisely what i was thinking...
@jamisantanen4483
@jamisantanen4483 3 жыл бұрын
Yesss, yay, more Nightwish! Awesome video :))
@_zuri_
@_zuri_ 3 жыл бұрын
Yess I'm so happy you reacted to this! And even more thank you for your words about vocalists bringing their own humanity and instrument to their performances. 🤘🤘
@Fedorchik1536
@Fedorchik1536 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great answer for Tarja vs Floor debate. I completely agree on this position. Even if I personally would like to hear "old stuff" the way it was performed by Tarja, I would never even dare to state that one of them does her part better.
@NorCalGuy
@NorCalGuy 3 жыл бұрын
So smart to abstain from comparing these fantastic women. Your reasoning is so accurate too.
@rongreen1103
@rongreen1103 3 жыл бұрын
And I say this with a smile on my face.....COWARD...Tarja is amazing...
@tereflores1316
@tereflores1316 3 жыл бұрын
The best duet!! I love them!!! Tarja ♥️
@galacticriminalx
@galacticriminalx 3 жыл бұрын
LOVE THIS 🤘😁🤘
@thehyperdragon
@thehyperdragon 3 жыл бұрын
Ayy, it's the man, the myth, the legend himself!
@Axe_Slinger
@Axe_Slinger 3 жыл бұрын
It's the modern day Red Beard the Pirate!
@IDrop76
@IDrop76 3 жыл бұрын
so this I why you revisited it haha fuck ya \m/
@MrPink297
@MrPink297 3 жыл бұрын
Haven't expected to see ya here 😄Love your content.
@davidbetts1180
@davidbetts1180 3 жыл бұрын
This my favourite version of Phantom. Tarja is absolutely incredible. I really think you are doing right thing staying out the vocalist preference. Annette never gets any love, but her style as a soloist doing her thing is better suited than Nightwish. If you do another Nightwish track, Ever Dream is fantastic. I know you'll scoff at the progression already 🤣
@crhu319
@crhu319 3 жыл бұрын
#Annette_Olzon is flawless in the studio Storytime & Meadows of Heaven. She owns both imho. I don't think Floors variances help Storytime much. And she doesn't seem to sing Meadows.
@duikmans
@duikmans 3 жыл бұрын
I love what Anette is doing with The Dark Element. She has the perfect voice for that kind of metal.
@cloudrunner7
@cloudrunner7 3 жыл бұрын
I am huge Nightwish fan and this was my introduction to the band. I really like Marco's take on the Phantom. It's they way it should be. The Phantom is a deranged madman, a homicidal maniac. Give it that color is perfect.
@OJB42
@OJB42 3 жыл бұрын
Same. Someone linked the video for this song for me a few years back. I really liked it and looked for other Nightwish stuff.Then I discovered Sleeping Sun, then Ghost Love Score, then Shoemaker, then Gethsemane, then... well, you get the idea! Nightwish has been my favourite band ever since!
@lucassilvapascoal3581
@lucassilvapascoal3581 3 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic Tarja's performance is "Supremacy" from Woodstock 2016
@shaghayegha.t9422
@shaghayegha.t9422 3 жыл бұрын
Yesss or Act II that's amazing !!
@shingojira
@shingojira 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this video. It's very interesting to have your opinion of this metal cover from this piece. I also have to thank you for the quality of your video. I'm not native english speaker and your prononciation is very clear to me. I'm really happy for having discovered your channel!
@claudiao1
@claudiao1 3 жыл бұрын
Great job with the videos Doug! Keep up the good work and Kudos to you!
@mschumacher3196
@mschumacher3196 3 жыл бұрын
Probably already written, but it was performed at the very last show with Tarja. She was the only member who didn't know she was fired this night. Strange to see knowing it. About another performance with Tarja and Nightwish, their most iconic song with her is Wishmaster, even if they already release Ghost love score. You will not find it complex, but it will stick in your brain. It is Tarja song and she still sing it without the band.
@Rafael-qi9bt
@Rafael-qi9bt 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to suggest one more performance with Tarja. Please react to "The siren", a live performance recorded on the DVD "End of an era". Thank you so much for also giving Tarja space on your channel!
@thanorodd5663
@thanorodd5663 3 жыл бұрын
Super glad you enjoyed this. Very cool to see your reaction. Thank you!
@einstfr
@einstfr 3 жыл бұрын
love your analysis , you win a new nightwish fan subscriber ... keep going
@DurwoodHicks
@DurwoodHicks 3 жыл бұрын
Doug may not be willing to compare the singers, but I will. Studio: Anette Live: Floor Muse: Tarja All of them are awesome and comparisons aren't automatically an either or.
@antivanti
@antivanti 3 жыл бұрын
We all know who the best Nightwish singer is.... Marko! 😊❤️
@johnscaramis2515
@johnscaramis2515 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately was and hopefully will be again.
@smievil
@smievil 3 жыл бұрын
Devil & The Deep Dark Ocean sounds nice, but i never really tried listening to them much though.
@nikvalentincic9764
@nikvalentincic9764 3 жыл бұрын
It's nice to see a review of Tarja. I love Floor with her range/technique but I feel like Tarja is left out in reaction/analysis videos.
@Songfugel
@Songfugel 3 жыл бұрын
Agree, People often forget Tarja is still the longest running Nightwish singer, not only by years, but also by production (Tarja 5 albums vs Anette and Floor who have only 2 albums each) and Floor is only now catching up on her on years. I wish Tarja'd get a bit more love from the reactors apart from this one song Nightwish is much more than just Floor (while she is amazing), it is a 25 year epic musical journey
@HurtboxTV
@HurtboxTV 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone forgets or doesn't want to react to Annette
@metalzonemt-2
@metalzonemt-2 3 жыл бұрын
@@HurtboxTV There aren't that many good quality live videos with her.
@npinjest7779
@npinjest7779 3 жыл бұрын
Only for the lack of HQ/HD live videos, as the Helsinki show is not nearly as nicely done as Wacken, Wembley, Tampere, or Buenos Aires...
@Athinira
@Athinira 3 жыл бұрын
That's really a reason of technology/time. There are simply more (and better) live recordings with Floor because she's recorded much later. It's way easier and cheaper to record a live concert now than it was 15 years ago, and it's also way more common to find these recordings released on the internet.
@Wulfbear
@Wulfbear 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, you are awesome. Love hearing a composer's analysis. I generally assess reaction vids on this performance. Partially because I never get tired of watching it, and also because I know it so well. I like your beard, too. 😀
@giovanniromerilli
@giovanniromerilli 3 жыл бұрын
Great reaction! clever and focused on the important things!
@alexojeda9048
@alexojeda9048 3 жыл бұрын
good for you for not taking part in a tired discussion
@lnoland1
@lnoland1 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your stance on comparing artists. I've grown really weary of all the people who want to rank artists. Music isn't a competition. It's fine to prefer one artist or prefer one performance but that doesn't make one better than the other. I think it is better for both the listener and the artist to try to enjoy each one according to what they bring to the table and leave comparisons out of it.
@Sanquinity
@Sanquinity 3 жыл бұрын
This is still my favourite rendition of Phantom of the Opera ever. And I also feel like this was the time Marco was at his absolute height. His voice was just so powerful and had such a large range during his performance. This exact recording was what made me fall in love with Nightwish, and made Marco my singing idol. Even though Marco is still awesome as both a bassist and singer, I did notice that he's starting to lose a little bit of what he managed to bring to the table during this performance. To put it simply, he was at the top of his game and almost literally sang his heart out during this concert.
@jmyers112
@jmyers112 3 жыл бұрын
a brilliant performance. tremendous style.
@GenXMetalHead73
@GenXMetalHead73 2 жыл бұрын
Wise decision, they are both equally awesome for having two very different styles. No one should compare these two they are two gems! I've always loved this cover personally. This is one of the first songs I really got into from Nightwish!
@m.vondrake5534
@m.vondrake5534 3 жыл бұрын
Wise man! Music is not a competition and where it is, the awards they give have very little to do with talent.
@MrRobot7331
@MrRobot7331 3 жыл бұрын
Beauty and the beast mood.
@Kylora2112
@Kylora2112 3 жыл бұрын
Marko (the guy) came from the band Tarot (as the bassist and lead vocalist), who are a VERY prominent hard rock/metal band in Finland.
@petarzecevic1170
@petarzecevic1170 3 жыл бұрын
Do Clansman from Iron Maiden, Rock in Rio
@hodgesaaaargh
@hodgesaaaargh 3 жыл бұрын
From a Nightwish fan from when she was 13 (like.. 20 years ago..): Later in the years I learned of a band called After Forever where the leadsinger was Floor Jansen. I always thought, if I could have the perfect band, it would be Nightwish, which Floor Jansen. Now I have that. But the first 3 albums with Tarja. Golden. Love them for ever as they are. Tarja Turunen is the only one who could entice me away with Sleepwalker (as a teenager, my first _ever_ metal song and Nightiwish-song. And it as great.). Also, totally understand the "not going near the discussion", as.. I wouldn't either. They both have their strengths. For me, with this one comment, I'm trying to bring notice to Tarja Turunen as the lead singer for Sleepwalker...
@johnhitchens2265
@johnhitchens2265 3 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, both Tarja and Marco were sick with the flu at this concert. Just shows what professionals can do when they have to!
@Quileryn
@Quileryn 2 жыл бұрын
So glad you covered this one and that you got to hear Tarja sing. This live version of the song is mind-blowing. The original on the album "Century Child" is also done well! You hear more of the pipe organs in that than you do in the live version. Also agreed 100%, always sad to see vocalists leave, but both Floor and Tarja are excellent vocalists.
@JVVZiin
@JVVZiin 3 жыл бұрын
wow, now I truly respect this man.
@J24777
@J24777 3 жыл бұрын
Tarja!!!! A Wonderful Fantastic Voice!!!
@arianealexandre9038
@arianealexandre9038 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely no true Nightwish fan will ever ask someone to compare each singers. We all love Tarja, Anette and Floor for their habilities, theirs personnalities and what they've brought to the band.
@jedinxf7
@jedinxf7 3 жыл бұрын
one thing I can always count on nightwish fans to do is speak for all nightwish fans.
@MartinUnderwood
@MartinUnderwood 3 жыл бұрын
This cover and Wish I Had an Angel were my intro to Nightwish (likely a common intro). This particular version has always made me want to re-arrange Phantom as a full on rock/metal concept. Great reaction vid, Doug!
@eam2564
@eam2564 3 жыл бұрын
Wishmaster is the forever Tarja song
@grisznik
@grisznik 3 жыл бұрын
But if you saw the misheard lyrics version the lyrics Will never be the same :p
@crhu319
@crhu319 3 жыл бұрын
Also Phantom and Nemo and Walking in the Air. All Tarjas.
@Timetravel1979
@Timetravel1979 3 жыл бұрын
Smart man avoiding the Tarja/Floor discussion. I completely agree, they're both incredible.
@FriedToast
@FriedToast 3 жыл бұрын
Love your breakdowns. As a musical idiot, it's great hearing the details being effortlessly thrown out - things I couldn't imagine if I tried. And thank you for not taking sides in the Tarja/Anette/Floor debate. We all have our favorite(s) and I think that's where it should stay. All of them are parts of Nightwish history, so I appreciate them all. No need to belittle one for another.
@make_m_finland
@make_m_finland 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!😊 I do not need to say anything about this song than that is still great!!!! Greetings from Finland (by NW fan since 1998)
@jonathanhensley2630
@jonathanhensley2630 3 жыл бұрын
Doug, I think Marco said "Alright!!!" at the end of the song. It's really cool that you are into Nightwish. I discovered them about 13 or so years ago after hearing another band (Van Canto) covering Wishmaster. You should do a video for Nightwish's Wishmaster and you should check out Van Canto if you get a chance. They use only drums and their voices for instruments. Best description would be acapella metal!!!
@Thorgrim247
@Thorgrim247 3 жыл бұрын
Marko at the end just says "Alright"! Smart decision. Both are amazing. Enjoy!
@m1ss1ngxn0
@m1ss1ngxn0 3 жыл бұрын
gotta do so Yngwie when he did stuff with an orchestra backing him!!! Love your stuff Doug!
@ds267
@ds267 3 жыл бұрын
The last thing Marco said on the song was "Well all-right!" to her hitting the note he was trying to get out of her.
@iloinenleski2593
@iloinenleski2593 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Finland and thanks for your reaction 😀🙃😀😷🤘🤟👌❤
@tomkenyon4517
@tomkenyon4517 3 жыл бұрын
Tarja's voice = tears.
@enitramlelou7140
@enitramlelou7140 3 жыл бұрын
Magic Doug, I like it when you frown your nose. Never disgusted but truly amazed. Nightwish deserve that. I love Marko.
@Metanimalistic
@Metanimalistic 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Doug, really enjoy watching your reactions to metal/rock music. Since you said you wanted to react to more of Tarjas singing, the recorded version of Sleeping Sun is great, first song I ever heard of Nightwish. Take care!
@milanradojevic8266
@milanradojevic8266 3 жыл бұрын
Tarja had flu that day ,for me she is favorite one 👏 , nice to see someone with looot expiriance to react 👌
@OJB42
@OJB42 3 жыл бұрын
Best "alternative" version of this song ever. I like the way Tarja and Marco interact on stage.
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