The Good, Evil, & Best Endings to Far Harbor - Fallout 4 Lore

[@ManSteveAsperger]

There is a 4th ending! I replaced Tektus with a synth, collected all the items and then activated the rocket in the Nucleus.

[@meateater2180]

ManSteve Asperger you evil man I love you

[@serious6037]

why? you dont get anything after you replaced tektus

[@Yogbee]

@@serious6037 You do. It's in the video. It's in the game if you play it. You get Atom's Bulwark and the Protector of Acadia perk. Nuking them after going through the trouble of replacing Tektus is the only thing that gives you nothing (well, I suppose satisfaction is something to gain from it, right?), but you could always get the rewards first THEN go mushroom cloud on them.

[@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606]

The 5th ending is turn off the fog condensers, set the nuke off, and get the brotherhood or institute to wipe out Acadia. Leave the island vacant

[@skyrim2185]

Savage level bro

[@DeadlyEmuRider]

Heh, when Tektus told me dying in a nuclear blast was their religious goal, I nuked the Nucleus without hesitation

[@FreeOrderBallPerseverance21]

Hehe!

[@phoenix-lumin8810]

Like Dima what did you expect give a man a nuke and he blows shit up

[@Sterncoo54]

Tektus is a commie

[@katscagurangan585]

The only thing that i hesitated doing in fallout 4 was deciding wether or not to make enemies with the Institute or the BoS

[@markusallen102]

Well ask and ye shall receive

[@PrinceAlhorian]

My History Professor in University always told me: "Lovers of Peace, Law and Sausages should never see how each is made."

[@StarkSpider24]

Wow... Thats deep... No wonder in schools they get the stories behind the settlement of America wrong..

[@amoose8439]

Read "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair

[@FreeOrderBallPerseverance21]

Hehe! I’m glad your professor was good in those senses! He’s right, too!

[@Boringspy]

Paul Putter that just earned a screenshot

[@kanomc2]

Otto von Bismarck...

[@georgemilliner3812]

You know, the less-than-random distribution of nuclear barrels along the roadways of the island suggests that the Children of Atom were actively trying to empower the fog. Whether it was actually effective is another question, but they definitely were trying. They were actively attempting to assault Far Harbor.

[@pokemaster123ism]

If you go to the wind farm controls, you find dead Children of Atom members, showing they were also actively trying to turn off their fog condensers

[@chriskopp1361]

I mean, there is a radioactive waste dump on the island.

[@MeanAndPristine]

The Children of Atom do that wherever they go. Every Children settlement, even in the Commonwealth, has some sort of radioactive shrine, so it makes sense they would be rounding up radioactive material to “beautify” what they consider their holy land. If they even were empowering the Fog artificially (and it wasn’t just natural phenomena that older Harbormen claim it is), it was only empowered accidentally. There is, however, an encounter right outside the town gate where Allen executes a Child for trying to sabotage their water supply.

[@Not-Ken-Molestina]

100% those crazy cultists. We're trying to radiate the entire island. They are not harmless.

[@Werrf1]

And please note, the person who insists that the Children have nothing to do with the fog is...Captain Avery. The synth who was placed there specifically to keep the Far Harborians from going after the Children.

[@Ebolson1019]

I think the lack of a good ending was the point. Bethesda wanted to show that we sometimes need to make choices that have no truly good outcome.

[@ondraslavik9870]

Edward Olson War, war never changes...

[@kelberas4205]

The idea of Fallout New Vegas was just that. There is no good choice. Only what you believe is true and right. Not first time "grey" world is presented in this franchise

[@simple-commentator-not-rea7345]

Obsidian's good writing, might have rubbed off on Bethesda afterall

[@brandonjustus9954]

I agree, far harbor had the best story in fallout 4 even better than the main story. I felt so dirty I didn't even mention morality to dima... I just overcharged the HELL outta him for making me compromise my morals for the best possible outcome.

[@codyduncan6801]

Yep! War never changes, and neither does business. And brother, business is a booming!

[@reggie9595]

If a Fallout game/DLC made you morally conflicted, then it's a good Fallout game/DLC.

[@donkeykongisbetterthanmari7495]

Welcome to the world of bioshock kinda

[@ozaauliaramadhan1485]

True, when i completed the base game, i felt nothing after i detonated a nuke over The Institute without thinking twice. But this DLC, was something different... i had to replay my save over and over again to get the best ending without getting Kasumi and Acadia destroyed by Far Harborians after justified DiMA.

[@criisp6240]

GeetInDVan yeah except for that damn mini game

[@EGOS42]

Hands down Far Harbor was my favorite DLC for FO4 for the same reasons. It felt a lot more like classic Fallout.

[@shadowreaper5413]

When a dlc (Far Harbor) is more of a fallout game than the base game (Fallout 4) smh still gotta respect the dlc developers for making it

[@the_one_titan]

*”Everytime you open your mouth Allen! The whole town suffers! So shut up.”* God bless you nate

[@thesandmoose765]

Just chose that option. It was hilarious.

[@deyash4602]

that's why in some cases a voiced character is good there are moments like that

[@thegreenrenegade7759]

"Will you shut up man?" Hindsight 2020

[@dusk6159]

@@thegreenrenegade7759 Indeed, literally all of it, and literally again

[@dusk6159]

The_One_Titan Absolutely yes, especially because it's completely insane how this guy Is not only the problematic component of a faction but arguably the most damaging one AND the most terribile and unjustified, not only even Tektus has more reasons and at least genuinity to be the trash that he is, he at least pays or anyway Is held responsible or at the very least he is made to (and all of that goes for Dima too, though obviously he is leagues better but especially he's over these two trashbags by intentions and a specific kind of will - though of course it's not like all of this mean automatic and unquestioned justification or respect, condems on Dima are made and have to be made, it's not like he doesn't deserve criticism - , though Dima even arguably gets the most harsh and exposing too), this psycopathic bum not only does his shitshow and spreads toxicity worth all three factions but he is truly not only let totally free but not even mentioned nearly as much as the gravity that he created should, and that even despite not being the representant or Far Harbour (and it's not like when the captain was alive she was like him or something, this guy has been doing disasters to this island as a sport since he came on). It's truly crazy, this Allen nut should really bring his xenophobia, hate, war mongering, weapons, lame styles etc to the Fog Crawlers and all, at least it will find truly some bread for its shitshow's teeth. He is truly the problem of Far Harbour until he can change or redeem himself. Again, even the Brotherhood is better than him, at least they go in with their ideology and cruelty but murder/kill with their hands, and especially are subject and eligible to pay for it if anything goes wrong (it's not like the only way to make one knight pay is to throw the entire Far Harbour community to the beasts, unlike for Allen, who is even barely addressed for his murder crime - deliberate, wicked and unjustified, unlike Dima and even unlike everything Tektus can do - on the Child of Atom).

[@chong3209]

IMO, seeing DiMA put to justice and keeping the peace between far harbor and Acadia and destroying the nucleus is the best ending.

[@scj6617]

I agree.

[@doggo6087]

That’s what I did

[@lordpolish2727]

i did this but i didnt help the town enough, so they killed everyone at acadia including kasumi, so now im restarting the whole thing

[@chong3209]

@@lordpolish2727 if you wanna get the best ending, help 2 people as that’s the minimum would beat the angry guy

[@lordpolish2727]

@@chong3209 ok thabks

[@LurkkiYT]

26:59 Nick casually slaughtering synths with a minigun.

[@garrylove8955]

I can't help but imagine him quoting TF2 heavy "RUN LITTLE BABY'S RUN!" "SASHA! YOU DID WELL!"

[@artificial3161]

For some reason it reminded me of the Terminator 😄 T2 to be exact. Although Nick doesnt look like Arnold's terminator, but a "cyborg" with a minigun 🤔

[@junkoenoshima6756]

Give a synth a minigun....meh Give a synth a minigun AND shades Then we got a deal

[@samfire3067]

@@garrylove8955 Nick: putts. Putts. Medic. Medic

[@Jamick98Geass]

I sided with the Brotherhood, destroyed the Institute, and personally lead the mob of angry Far Harbor citizens to Acadia for a Synth slaughter, and Nick Valentine is still a happy little "time to hit the road?" gumshoe. Bethesda really dropping the ball here in terms of roleplaying. Nick should hate my guts but he's still buddy buddy with me for some reason. It makes no sense.

[@danielduncan6806]

The children of Atom *DID* in fact, actively seek out the destruction of Far Harbor. All you need to do is go to the wind farm control house and you see them trying to break in to shut the wind farm down. And for those who know, shutting down the wind farm is the equivalent of setting off the nuke in the Nucleus, the killing of everyone in Far Harbor. And while the Children of Atom were ultimately unsuccessful, given all you find is corpses upon entry of the wind farm control house, there is *STRONG* evidence they were trying to break in, mainly the sledge hammer by the door. So yeah, the Children of Atom are definitely actively seeking the destruction of Far Harbor.

[@MyNameisNohbody]

Only because they were lead by a deranged man but I see what you mean

[@wolfehoffmann2697]

@dale tiilton The windfarm powered the fog collectors and the town. Power goes down, critters come in.

[@chibimatatabi2845]

they only got to that point due to allen murdering the atom missionary, letting tektus rise to power in the first place, basically if we remove allen, the situation resolves itself

[@94Newbie]

@@chibimatatabi2845 allen is just one of many residents that could have reacted that way. the issue is fundamentally in the religious belief of the children of atom. it fundamentally brings them into conflict with far harbour or civilisation in generell sooner or later. they view the fog condensers as heresy. if it werent allen anybody else could have killed the missionary sooner or later. the children of atom praise the fog, the blight that is haunting far habour for generations. combine that with the residents of far habour being wary of outsiders and somebody is getting shot sooner or later.

[@f.a.kefacebook5688]

Excellent point, I had forgotten that.

[@neireannach]

“But was this the moral ending?” I dunno, how many merchants survived?

[@gdforerunner5303]

thats exactly why I did that ending, so I could eventually get all recon marine armour

[@reece42069]

@@gdforerunner5303 could you not just have gotten all recon marine armour via the Dima memory quests?

[@windhelmguard3752]

@@reece42069 the Recon Marine Armor is not regular Assault Marine Armor you get from the memory quest. Recon Marine armor is a set of 4 legendary pieces of Assault Marine Armor (Helmet, Right Arm, Left Arm, Chest Piece). Each armor piece costs no less than 8 000 caps with 10 Charisma, and the lower your Charisma Stat, the higher the price.

[@reece42069]

@@windhelmguard3752 suppose it could still be bought as soon as the character arrives at far harbour assuming they have the money before committing to an ending

[@johnnooyen461]

better yet, what ending gives you the most/best loot

[@triwolfdelta737]

When nick said the line “i have become death, the destroyer of worlds.” It really shook me because I just read up on the man who helped create nuclear bombs and he said that line in an interview in a way showing that he regrets everything hes done

[@paulhudson5587]

Nick is a wonderful character. When the prydwen first arrives he quotes edgar allen poe, a line from "the raven"

[@Eli_Perbtani]

And nick kinda looks like openhimer

[@natalyawatson817]

Far harbour: being pushed into a small area finding it hard to survive Children of Atom: We have most of the island....but...

[@daviddavila8816]

England noises intensify

[@FreakingSpies]

Me who sided with the Children of Atom: I mean why have a dock when you can have the whole island. 😎

[@MisterJohnDoe]

*IT IS ATOM’S WILL*

[@bigdingus9333]

@@FreakingSpies may as well 100% it 😎

[@FreakingSpies]

@@bigdingus9333 True that true that

[@nasyirvyx]

I just hate that puzzle thing. that's all :)

[@thedarkderp2520]

yeah i use a mod to bypass it

[@tanker12999]

@@thedarkderp2520 what mod

[@jacobrobinson787]

SAME. That's my biggest hang-up with this.

[@user-ARCON_GRID]

Its really fun the the first time you play it, but then...

[@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606]

Use a mod

[@zz-xk7lc]

The BOS when they arrive in Acadia: So anyway I started blasting

[@stann.4443]

Bad thing they can't let the child of the atom be granted the division with liberty prime.

[@zz-xk7lc]

@@stann.4443 That would be dandy

[@the_one_titan]

@@stann.4443 I just image them air dropping LP and him prying the blast doors open and throwing a nuke at the submarine

[@Whiskers4169]

The acadia did not have a greensynth to save them

[@rustym.shackelford5546]

It's always sunny in Far Harbour

[@regalcartoon5932]

The Far Harbor DLC is the definition of “the grey area between good and evil”.

[@xOogieBoogie3x]

In my most recent, I chose the peace ending, but then I went back and launched the nuke, disabled the fog condensers, and had the BOS raid Acadia. I'm a snake.

[@katscagurangan585]

“You come to us, like a snake in the grass, in a city full of lies, you Crane, are the biggest liar of all...” Dying Light refference, fellow DL fans where u at?

[@odsttrooper3724]

Kats Cagurangan lmao fuck the following dlc

[@nirim_does_stuff]

Mood lmao.

[@southlime5477]

I literally did the exact same thing XD

[@fumarc4501]

Yeah you are.

[@G_Silent]

Far Harbor has a very sad and depressing story, whichever way you want it’s not perfect. The atmosphere is also very depressing and murky. A great DLC

[@Wolverine-ky9gk]

Far Harbor is definitely as good as Fallout New Vegas DLCs. Nuka World was alright but could have been better

[@BattleManiac7]

I still can't help but be brought out of the game when people like Allen get all uppity and in your face when you're clad in power armour. I mean you are HUGE, like 1.5 times as tall and as wide as a normal person, covered in super high-tec armour that grants you super strength and sometimes carrying gigantic weapons like gatling lasers. I mean come on. I know it's a gameplay thing, it's hard to write so many scenarios and lines but I still can't help but find it ridiculous most of the time.

[@thorveim1174]

Yeah... I also got non-feral ghouls trying to make me pay for "safety"... whiel I was in that exact equipment, fully able to wipe the whole town on my own without even needing any more effort than standing in the open and keep the trigger pressed...

[@dasdestomic1636]

Well actually, when you're dealing with those raider guys at the beginning of fallout 4 at the diner, one of the raiders says (if you're wearing power armor), "Woah woah! slow down there mister big power armor man! -"

[@paulalang5992]

DasDestomic Well, Wolfgang and Simone are actually traders who both used the diner as a base of operations alongside Tracy, so his comment was more of a "Whoah there guy, this isn't your business" than it was "Whoah, I'm intimidated by you!".

[@connorbutters8479]

What about when a raider stops you and tries to make you pay toll, that's hilarious. Raider: hang on buddy you ain't getting through here until you pay 500caps. Me (fully armed in power armour and weapons): you serious bro?

[@shebvixen]

I know right, I put Nick in a full set of power armor when we were going to complete his companion Quest (so all the guy would hear would be his voice) and what do I get? a long conversation about how he looks like a robot and isn't the real Nick, *sigh*.

[@poppashean4616]

In one my playthroughs I was the General of the Minutemen and built a Marine base by Longfellow's cabin. They would act as a sort of nuclear deterrent. Having Militarized Minutemen Mod made the Minutemen a formidable force and (in my fan fiction lore) the Minutemen agreed to join whichever side did not shoot first after their arrival as well as helping protect the island and clear areas of raiders and such. But even this option has its moral qualms. But there would be peace, even if an uneasy peace with the Minutemen acting as a sort of intermediary for both sides. This obviously means you don't get any perks either. But for me it was the best solution.

[@NineteenInFrench]

Nate: Every time you open your damned mouth, Allen, the whole town suffers. Shut up. Players: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH (29:45)

[@RitzyYeti]

My favorite part of the whole DLC, it was super satisfying getting to say that.

[@maramba32]

It's even better with Nick tagged along on this dlc

[@johnsmith-yf8vx]

that was funny .

[@johnsmith-yf8vx]

yea i found that out to . thx god i did not have piper with me . but my cait . best women in the game . i so love my cait .

[@primeemperor9196]

I have a friend who I want to say that to EVERY DAY!

[@ZarPof]

In this video Oxhorn argues the Children of Atom can change so therefore killing them is wrong. In the Institute video he says they are bad and ignores their capacity to change (and there is dissent amount them too). I just wanted to point out that inconsistency.

[@dzc46278]

Yeah the Children of Atom argument was total BS. Really terrible argument.

[@ZarPof]

dzc4627 I don't think the argument is wrong, he's just make one in the past to the opposite effect.

[@dzc46278]

It is an incorrect argument. If a group of individuals are seeking the destruction of civilization (by radiation) now, then it does not matter what they happen to be like in a few decades. If the threat is there and the group will even voluntarily go, it is totally not evil to push the big red button in that scenario.

[@ZarPof]

dzc4627 With that logic the entire human race could rightfully wiped out.

[@destroyerblackdragon]

The Children of Atom say they built an immunity to the harmful effects of radiation but I don't know if Radiation works that way. It affects your Atoms which manipulate your DNA causing your cells to mutate into cancerous tumors.

[@Somethingclever11111]

This gives me hope in the next fallout game in that Bethsda truly understands "morale" questions and sometimes the "right" thing to do is really hard to do

[@mr.fantastic7756]

Moral*

[@gaaraofthefunk7163]

Patrick Lerner Then we got hit with FallOut76 and never saw the chance on a broken game lol 😂

[@ladlegs]

@@gaaraofthefunk7163 I mean they weren’t trying to make a story based game, so there still could be hope!

[@gaaraofthefunk7163]

@@ladlegs I guess I’ll feed off your optimism lol 😂 mine just ran out. Or gave out in humanity 😭 lol

[@francogamer7794]

@@gaaraofthefunk7163 Bethesda made FO3 which was pretty good on that level, and FO76 was not made by their main team, given Broken Steel, Far Harbour and Nuka World were made from listening to player feedback, I believe Bethesda is aware and will certainly change :)

[@saywhat9393]

I actually spared everyone in my playthrough. For me, DiMa being killed by the Harbormen is too easy a punishment. I learned that he actually felt guilty to what he did in the past that he chose to bury his memories. So, what I did was spare his life so he can spend all his time fixing the island. As much as insane the cultists were, they also have the right to stay in the island. So, I just convinced the High Confessor to escape so DiMa can replace him with a synth. Then, I kept the secret of Avery being a synth to the harbormen. But I realized that giving DiMa too much power is reckless, so I just built a military base to protect the island and keep all factions in check. I also dumped all the responsibilities to Nick since he's an immortal synth, and DiMa feels attachment to him being his only brother.

[@nicholasnelson6876]

Uh, what happens if I killed the COA on site while exploring the island?

[@mudshrooze]

I like your ending. That's the best one that the game offers. I personally love the children of Atom. My favorite fallout faction. Your ending is the best one for what the game allowes

[@mudshrooze]

@@nicholasnelson6876 well...for starters you really should quest as far as possible Into all three of the Islands factions before you just start shooting them. The story is worth it. Dont jsut kill them. Learn about them first. Do all the side qiests then make the ending quests

[@monaplayz]

I did the same! I resolved the conflict without bloodshed and the resolution of all factions living in peace afterwards was amazing. I even convinced Tektus to run away and never return instead of killing him, like DiMA suggested. Needless to say Codsworth loved and liked everything I did in the DLC!

[@mudshrooze]

@@monaplayz I like to believe that Tektus...will eventually see the error of his ways and may even come to a new understanding of Atom. I....write a lot and I have a whole story with what happens with him after the spare him and tell him to leave ending. He meets up with another child of Atom he had thought he had Richter lead to his Death, Brother Edgar... It's a whole thing. But needless to say Tektus has a change of heart. But he still doesnt Return to the island

[@TazzeOptical]

I had no trouble making a decision, the moment I saw that messed up little spectacle near the entrance of The Nucleus I thought "well, I've seen enough" and killed everyone

[@JezzaBazza]

Lul

[@NootNoot67]

This was my first impression. I saw what happened and said "Aw Hey-ull NO!" and shot all of them!

[@wyattchristensen608]

I just blew them up because I thought it would be cool. Assessment- I was soooo right. 😂

[@ellyr7an]

I did it because I thought that’s what the brotherhood of steel wanted

[@mikethebike226]

SPOILERS Destroying the Nucleus = evil Destroying Far Harbor = evil Destroying Arcadia = evil Destroying Institute = completely good Seems legit.

[@ZombieChimpanzee]

the thing is, in game, The Institute is the only of those factions you just listed who can't change its ways. even when you're the Director you can't stop them from abducting and replacing people. you can make the choice of focusing on weapons or synth research focus. that's it. The institute is morally bad. and they lack the ability to actually change in the game. destroying them saves lives that can't be saved any other way. in Far Harbor all the factions possess the capacity for change. therefore not destroying them and making the choice in the video, albeit a still morally wrong choice, is still the best option. it's honestly more a limit of how the game was designed, Bethesda didn't put the option to change the Institute's methods and goals, which when you look at how dictatorial the previous director was seems strange. but given what we have to work with, yeah it is wrong to destroy the Far Harbor factions. it's not to destroy the Institute.

[@ZombieChimpanzee]

in the game, the mechanic does not exist that allows the institute to stop abducting people. even when your character is director yo don't get the option as a player to say "stop how you're doing things." it's not an in universe thing. it's a gameplay shortcoming that translates into the game making the institute evil due to an inability to change. if bethesda or nodders make that option available then it changes how I see the decision to destroy the institute.

[@tomcanty8856]

His point actually was that killing The Children of Atom has to be a good choice, using the uploaders logic, otherwise both are as evil as each other. I honestly don't think that's a fair assumption but you missed his point completely lol

[@bent2461]

Small faction good big faction bad is ppls opinion apparently

[@ameeboimperialpolice9936]

Mike Leahy the institute are mass murderers

[@crystalquasar6841]

Allen, DiMa, and Tektus are all loose grenades rolling around without their pins.

[@fumarc4501]

Allen and Tektus for sure, but DiMa is a grenade that has forgotten he ever had a pin.

[@funnyvalentinedidnothingwrong]

@@fumarc4501 He's also forgotten how to explode, fortunately.

[@MikeBrown-go1pc]

Yeah that Allen is dangerous. How dare he be weary of a group that worships radiation and wants it to spread. How dare he be eeary of machines meant to replace humans. You have to watch out for those kind of people...They may start making sense...

[@I-NUCL34R-I]

Yes Allen, we are looking at you.

[@f.a.kefacebook5688]

Yea, really. Allen should have been executed for murder, too.

[@Honyi1]

To me I felt that there should have been an option to remove allen from the town, like felt like the primary antagonist and drove alot of the conflict either convincing him to leave or killing him as an option would have been nice to have as an option.

[@happycompy]

Agreed. I hated that beanie wearing mother f*er. His sister sucks too.

[@zenixkiryu]

Seriously despise how he's essential for no good reason

[@SrChr778]

He's nothing more than an angry local. No need to martyr him simply because he has an impulse control problem.

[@41Atatsiak]

I tried to kill him when he got dima at gun point the whole town turned on me instantly, so now I retry and help the town first lol

[@zoulogist9171]

You can remove him by unaliving him

[@blazinvlogs2310]

"Sometimes you may have to choose dark actions in order to make peaceful and moral resolutions." -Blue

[@scotty3675]

" Slow Clap"

[@Headhunterzify]

Did I wrote that? Or someone else that's named Blue.

[@rolfrhante]

"Why are you calling me that?"

[@user-xm6vi7ez1t]

"Who the hell is Blue." -Blue

[@robertoordenana1336]

Sometimes you may have to break wind to persuade others to peace.

[@flamingtire3111]

I never cared about how good the perks made me in a dlc, I always tried to end as peacefully as possible.

[@mudshrooze]

Same

[@Mrikeepgettinmoneyagain]

slaughter and carnage is the best way

[@seanjenkins2188]

As an CoA build, and as the Overboss... Another Kingdom to rule

[@ThommyofThenn]

I never got any enjoyment from intentionally getting them to kill each other, in any Bethesda game actually. I know it's only a game but I get really invested in role playing and I can't stand being responsible for pointless destruction

[@toadmilker8151]

I LOVE THIS DLC. I finished it up again last weekend. The story is obviously fantastic but just roaming around the island is some of the best content in this game. Fog blocking my view, very dark nights, Anglers popping out of lakes as I'm picking Lure Weed, the tall imposing figure of a Crawler in the distance, Ghouls literally popping out of the fog, gigantic crabs emerging from busted Vim/Lobster vans, mentally ill cannabalistic Trappers, a clan of Super Mutants crashing into the island to conquer it, the detective story in Vault 118, the army of ghouls watching cowboy films at the Eden Meadows Drive-in... THERE IS SO MUCH. In such a little space. I'm sure I missed a bunch. Not to mention the story could go 5 or 6 different ways. I thought Far Harbor and Nuka-World were a step in the right direction then Todd "Don't Follow Trends" Howard goes; "Here's Fartout SeventyShits" Fuck off man. Then better bring it with Fallout 5 or I'm going to hang myself.

[@job4184]

I just finished it too! The detective quest in vault 118 was one if the funniest quests lmao

[@hatake1990]

"Fartout Seventy Shits". Lmao!! I've not heard that one before. 😂😂

[@ireneruscelli6496]

The problem with the narrative of Dima's trial is that apparently the death penalty only applies if a citizen of Far Harbor is killed because while Allen himself is a murderer,he's stilll strolling around.

[@merentori]

I agree, but there's the added dimension of him replacing Avery

[@genisisbeing]

"Avery" actually explains that. she tell you the whole town was riled up it was just that allen was the one to pull the trigger. she might have been able to justify killing him as punishment but the whole town would have rioted.

[@vheypreexa]

I just completed this, a year after it was released. But I stopped choosing my endings a while back. I don't reload saves, just take it as it goes. Sometimes I see there was a mistake and I live with it. Like real life. Makes for a better experience to me.

[@JenniferReturn]

I love you, Vhey! :D

[@1983McGovern]

What........you can’t hit the replay button in life? It’s over, my life’s over......I’m done.....I give up. Lol

[@captainhyperion]

that its what i like of playing in "survival" difficulty. You cannot be saving at pleasure... Hard choises, live with those. Even if you feel guilty. But this is a Role Playing game... you are not a player, you are the character.... its like you.

[@denogowli]

One of the best fallout dlc's ever imo

[@oxhorn]

I agree, it was a great DLC

[@jacksonelh]

Probably right behind old world blues

[@jacksonelh]

Connor Zerka yeah it was great too, but it gave me a crippling fear of radios.

[@ramsey6227]

I destroyed Acadia as soon as I had the chance because of Dima's memory simulation quest

[@deviouscat4571]

This guy gets it

[@cathywulf7398]

That's a valid reason 🤣

[@gabriels.4849]

preach.

[@Univerzion]

I should've done that. Like ffs

[@blackjannik9458]

@HeadFull one hour? Maybe like 20 minutes at best

[@SHMOUSEY86]

I think the option you picked is by far the most morally just ending. It’s basically 4 lives (2 synths, og cpt. Avery, and Tektus) to save the rest of the island.

[@IkeFanBoy64]

I 100% agree, and it's perhaps the most rational. DiMA's simply too valuable to the island to be killed for his past actions. After all, If it weren't for him, Far Harbor wouldn't have the fog condensers. As for Tektus, he's a full on extremist. The way he radicalizes the CoA is no different than a terrorist leader convincing their followers to carry out atrocities. Of all the people to be replaced with a synth, he'd be the most justifiable.

[@paulhudson5587]

I think the idea that far harbor would fall purely because acadia wouldnt be there to repair the fog condensors is laughable. The mariner fortified the harbor and shes more than capable of repairing the condensors without that insane murderer dima around. Bethesda dropped the ball on that one. Im pissed that in order to do away with him and those fanatics at the nucleus, i have to sacrifice the humans at the harbor. But to save them i have to make a cop out deal? Bah.

[@justintaylor1713]

@paulhudson558 Did you not see the part where you can convince DiMa to go down to the harbor and seek justice? And then you can convince the children to accept division and nuke them? That sounds like what you’d want to do based on your reply

[@justinorlando3568]

In my opinion, if Tektus says that he wished to die by division, such can happen. My personal best ending is; Nuke Nucleus and keep DiMA’s secret.

[@eryvac0074]

I killed Dina and left the other two

[@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal]

Or you could try to make him an atheist Side note why do people say they the children are mad think about there religion and think of real world religions it's not that weird

[@thoughtpolice2191]

Eryvac *00 cults?

[@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal]

@@eryvac0074 you day that but the goal of Christianity is to die and go to heaven

[@Damocles16]

How could you kill Sister Mai? She was so nice...

[@kovulion7777]

Nobody gonna talk about the confessor has no arms?

[@jeretoon8350]

Kovu Lion yeah what is that about

[@robintrlg9353]

made me think of Rayman

[@HyunMoKoo]

It's the atom's will that the confessor doesn't have arms.

[@Martial-Mat]

But at least he'd always stump up when it was his round.

[@oldbittercraig3513]

Well, as the bumper sticker reads, "You can't hug a child with nuclear arms."

[@aliceallgrown]

I felt pretty satisfied with my ending, though I agonized over it a while. At first, I asked Dima to turn himself in but was appalled when the harbor killed him. Especially the line about there being only one judgement for murder. I felt like shooting Allan in the face and saying, “Well, he killed someone, too, right?” So I loaded a previous save and killed the Children by convincing them to go ahead with ‘division’. Told Dima I’d keep his secret and protected Far Harbor. I hate the children. They’re fanatic lunatics. Even the nice Children are still fanatic religious cultists. The world is better off without them. A people who worship radiation and want a nuclear annihilation are not going to help the world recover from nuclear war. And if they did not believe, they had the same countdown as I did to get out and nobody left. Also, destroying them means that Dima never suggests replacing Tektus, so I can make believe he’s still horrified at what he’s done and won’t do it again. >>

[@jeffjom279]

I'm only siding with them to get atoms judgement then ditch em

[@jrasealexander5480]

My character loathed the idea of replacing Tektis like the institute, and was appalled to learn of DiMA's crime. I told Kasumi everything. Then I actually told Capt Avery that she was a synth and agreed to keep her secret, so that after convincing DiMA to plead his case to Far Harbor it was true justice done with Avery there to see and Kasumi knowing the truth about DiMA. I'd already helped out the town so Avery convinced everyone that justice was indeed done. This secures peace between Far Harbor and Acadia and so I returned to Kasumi to convince her to return home. After that Valentine was over it so he went back to the Commonwealth, probably with Kasumi. Now, with DiMA and Nick gone, I had to do the real dirty work. No choice but to nuke the Nucleus, ONLY because if you choose to replace Tektis then the Children of Atom seem confused and, well tricked. This placated attitude could only last so long before everyone notices that Tektis doesn't age and the Children become potentially hostile again or else DiMA continues to replace them or anyone on The Island. Not real peace. Also the people of Far Harbor would continue to reclaim their lands, ever encroaching on the Nucleus. Not sustainable peace. HOWEVER, the Children aren't all bad and there is a lot to be said about their apparent immunity to radiation. That right there is a game changer in the wasteland and a testimony to their claim on the Land of the Fog. Regardless I couldn't really see any other choice and my character decided to convince them to seek division and thank Atom. I write it off as a damn shame. It was their choice in the end after all, after convincing Tektis. However I just don't see it as anything other than securing lasting peace for the people of The Island, and I technically didn't kill anyone myself. I'm not blind to the gravity of what I'd done though and so after returning to Far Harbor and having Avery tell me to leave, I did. It only seemed right, and I ain't been back since. Hell of a case. . .

[@alechodge3357]

11:50 tektus seems to already be divided

[@DingoDareDevil]

He's wrong about captain Avery. The real captain Avery wanted war with the children of atom just as much as Allen did, that's why he replaced her. He didn't get rid of her because it was 'convenient.' But because he thought it would be enough to stop a war. And if he listened to the holotape, regarding the synth that replaced Avery. HE'D KNOW, that she volunteered for it. Doesn't make the decision any less shitty but you can't completely brand the guy a monster when he was in all honesty just trying to do what he thought was the right thing. At the end of the day, I picked this ending as well because in my opinion there didn't need to be any more death as you can do this route without having to kill tekus. It honestly seems that pretty much nearly everyone from each faction just wants peace and no more bloodshed. It's a difficult choice. The phrase, 'kill one, to save a thousand.' fits so well here. I also honestly wish there was a way to make DiMA pay for his crimes but that's the hardship of being a leader. You have to make the choices no one else wants to make, as much as DiMA made some wrong decisions, I truly and honestly think he was just doing the best he could. At the end of the day, as much as he wanted to save everyone he knew his own kind came before them. Which is fair and reasonable.I think we'd all be the same really. We'd pick our family over a random stanger any day. This doesn't mean I agree with what DiMA did, maybe there could have been a better way, and I would defiantly keep an eye on him from now on. But at the end of the day, he regretted what he did and was just trying to protect his family. It's easy to forget that the sole survivor basically has to choose between ending the brotherhood, railroad, institute or minute men. Changing the very fabric of the commonwealth, making an irreversible choice BASED on what they thought was best. Is he really that much of a monster? "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."

[@pardalmadgod9960]

I know this is an old post and i have notifications disabled but, i gotta say thats some deep stuff you got there good to see people see the true burden of being a leader, sometimes for the sake of those you care about you do things you regret, sometimes even things that go against everything you believe, but in the end you have your people in mind you cant please all sides.

[@DingoDareDevil]

I just like think from all perspectives. Although I still my bias and will always pick a preferred side, after playing all of the options. But honestly I think that's the point of the games. Not just to blow stuff up and go crazy but to actually care about and invest in the world you live in and whether you try for peace or war, you will ultimately decide on something sooner or later.

[@bg8580]

DingoDareDevil Exactly. It's easy to judge others for their actions but it's much harder to put yourself in their shoes and understand them.

[@100furyelves]

There is a way to make DiMa pay, and have peace. You can basically convince Allan to just judge DiMa for his actions and not attack Acadia, in the end he gets executed but ; he did murder someone ( even though it was with there consent ). You can also choose to lie and keep his secret, then people can live in peace and he survives ( I didn’t take that route but I think that one is the best)

[@DingoDareDevil]

Yeah, I remember but after that I think the town just goes on a rampage towards the children of atom, and as far as I know there's no way to stop that to be honest.

[@F5_Sphere]

when he said “Every time you open your damned mouth the town suffers. Shut up” i was thinking hell yeah!

[@HattaTHEZulZILLA86]

I like the "best" ending imo. Only wish I could constantly remind Dima by disabling his ability to "conveniently" forget the memory that he has to live with that guilt (Avery's death) for the rest of his LONG lifespan as much as my character did. I destroyed the Institute (via Minutemen) in my main story playthrough btw.

[@orb3tnl]

ive killed 910 humans, 282 animals, 1142 creatures,144 robot, 151 synths but oh this one synth who killed and replaced someone is wrong and they should be judged for there actions cause its not like we kill anyone for no reason.........totally

[@rolfrhante]

MM's Kill 5 in the same way for similar reasons, and you're a serial killer.

[@charleslindeman2169]

You killed all those because they were already trying to kill you. That doesn't make you a murderer.

[@Slashthekitsune]

To be fair, after you hit four digits, it becomes a statistic...

[@Jedisherm]

Like Charles said, self-defense is something else altogether. And the few cases of "murder" like freeing the slaves and killing the raiders in Nuka Town, its for a good cause.

[@cathedral1375]

and dima replaced Avery because he felt threatened by the other faction does that make it self defense ?

[@jetstreams6403]

My first playthrough i made friends with and did all side quests for each faction and ended up liking all of them. So my ending of saving all three made perfect sense, i convinced the high confessor to leave instead of killing him, actually i spared everyone in the dlc as theres about 3 or 4 scenarios where you can spare someones life. And my character is still better than dima because i didnt kill the person i replaced

[@JuzClapYaHands]

I just finished my first play through of Far Harbor and went with the following -Destroyed The Nucleus -Sent Dima to Justice -Sent Kasumi home Felt that was the best and most just ending. I do feel for some of the Nucleus residents but...I felt most, if not all, had been brainwashed by the Tektus and had all probably committed a crime and may have been violent toward the citizens of Far Harbor. This fact made it easier for me to go with ending The Nucleus. Plus the majority of the Nucleus residents were okay with killing anyone, including their own, as you seen when first finding the Nucleus and when sent on the mission "The Heretic" to find Sister Gwyneth.

[@YouLittleBrick]

Christopher Duran Did the same, I had to really think about it though. Far Harbor is one of the better storylines.

[@TheKrossRoads]

Same here. There is a good ending to Far Harbor: Dima needed to face justice. He's doing the same thing that the Institute did, for the same reason; "for the greater good". Bullshit. It was evil when the Institute did it, and it's still evil when Dima does it. He knows he's wrong, he knows he's a hypocrite, and he willingly goes to Far Harbor to accept their judgement. If you play your cards right, Acadia and Far Harbor are still at peace, and Avery is avenged. The only bad thing about the situation is that Nick is devastated, and he doesn't deserve that. However, he doesn't hate the Sole Survivor, because he knows that Dima made his own path and walked it of his own volition. If anything he's sad that Dima had fallen so far and was taken away by circumstance so soon after being reunited. The CoA are far too volatile. Their leader is a warmongering zealot, and it's made very clear that there will not be peace if he's left in charge. You're not given an option of rallying the resistance to Tektus within the Nucleus to overthrow him, or to have the resistance defect to form their own peaceful Atom worshiping settlement elsewhere, so the best option left is to convince them to engage the Division. They happily blow themselves up, and thus leave two peaceful communities behind on the island. Kasumi was an easy one. She's most likely much better off with loving parents in the (comparatively) safer environment of the Commonwealth compared the Far Harbor. At the end of it all, the only blood you have on your hands are the CoA who weren't bloodthirsty. However, they willingly followed their faith into oblivion when it was clear the end was coming (they could have escaped the same as the Sole Survivor did if they had second thoughts), so even that blood is debatable. The Sole Survivor comes out on the the moral high ground, since everyone that perished accepted it of their own free will. It's not squeaky clean, mind you, but it's a hell of lot better than pulling an Institute.

[@thearkhamfiles3935]

I did litteraly the same exact thinh

[@joshuacarpenter7447]

That's not a great ending at all

[@xananymous431]

Christopher Duran a

[@ThommyofThenn]

36:46 pretty perfect timing how Allen is kinda nervously fidgeting when he's telling you to get out. You can tell he puts up a lot of bluster as a shield but there's a scared man underneath. You can tell if you pressure him

[@Joff4]

Wouldn't the best ending be where Dima is punished for his crime but Arcadia is left in peace? The "best" ending involves you killing a man to be replaced by a Synth.

[@oxhorn]

Maybe, though if you choose that ending you don't get ANY perks, unless you go forward with the wind turbine switch or launch button.

[@Joff4]

True, but if you take perks out of the equation. What ending would you consider the most morale?

[@Mandemon1990]

If your argument goes down on perks, you are arguing from gamer perspective, not from moral argument. True good does not ask reward for doing the right thing. True good is doing what is right, even if you gain nothing from it.

[@Mandemon1990]

Benjamin Price Except the video argues based on rewards you get. Not on pure morality.

[@Mandemon1990]

Benjamin Price Um, "Good" and "Evil" are morality arguments. "Good, Bad and Best" would be better in such case.

[@TheAisar87]

Also keep in mind The Children of Atom were not only being aggressive with their convert or kill methodology but they were actively spreading the radiation via barrels and irradiated water. The people of Far Harbor didn't like them but the only one who was really aggressive was Allen and I don't feel he really represented all of Far Harbor, the other residents claimed he was that way because it made him feel important. They didn't follow or agree with him. If anyone in this DLC is evil and hostile it's The Children of Atom.

[@mudshrooze]

True but they didnt start that until the harbor men started killing them. I will say that the leadership of all the factions are the true problems. The factions and even their various beliefs arent evil necessarily. Especially in a fantasy setting

[@TheAisar87]

@@mudshrooze The Children of Atom believe anyone who won't follow their ways are infidels who must be cleansed. I don't think it would have taken long for them to decide the that the Far Harbor peeps had to go. Especially under the current confessor or whatever the leader was called.

[@rossnorris2351]

Yet that is only due to the influence of Tektus. If you've played Fallout 3 you've seen the birth of the Children of Atom in Megaton. If you haven't and you wish to understand them more, play Fallout 3 and talk to them, they are a peaceful group of eccentrics who worship an unexploded bomb in the middle of the settlement of Megaton. They don't even get upset when you disarm it, they just continue worshiping Atom at its crater. That is why I support eliminating Tektus however you see fit and replacing him.

[@jessicathomas2147]

​@TheAisar87 welcome to Islam

[@Not-Ken-Molestina]

​@@mudshroozethey started there crap the second they arrived. Read the terminals talk with the people.

[@sm901ftw]

To be honest I don't see the last ending as too bad by Fallout standards. Everyone survives, there's peace, all three groups are left with decent leaders. If you agree with the Railroads methods (I don't but I get why they do it) then wiping a synths memory is no big deal. Letting DiMA get away with murder is more morally grey, but at the end of the day his methods worked, and in fallout the life of one captain isn't worth all that much.

[@TheForklifter]

sm901ftw DiMa is shady bastard, I can't stand him. I brought him to justice.

[@sm901ftw]

***** Shady yes, but you not liking him doesn't make him a bad leader. Like it or not his actions worked. And given most community leaders kill-counts in fallout, he's practically a saint. He's a better leader and person than Hancock (who just kills anyone in his way and lets anything else just happen), but just because Hancock is fun and cool we let it slide. Think about that for a moment.

[@TheForklifter]

sm901ftw I don't try to bring justice to Hancock, because it's their community and that's how they run things there. The reason why I brought DiMa to justice was because he killed an outsider and was tampering with people not from his own.

[@sm901ftw]

***** An action which saved everyone else in both communities. What DiMa did was "wrong", but it was the best choice he could see. And it paid off even if no one, including himself, likes it. By your logic, the leaders of every faction except maybe the minutemen (who you control) are guilty of interfering with one another and surrounding communities. And god help the leaders in more greyscale fallout games.

[@andonemaniac8220]

sm901ftw synths are property of the institute, do the right thing. the synths will be recalled and dima will be dismantled to be studied

[@kebabloodmoon6848]

With all the evil there is... Replacing tectus to ensure peace is the best option. Dima knows and understands what he did was wrong even when he has to do it again. I go this option every time and tectus can rot in that wall for all I care. Killing dima is a poor choice as he gives inspiration and keeps the fog machines up and offers a place synths can live peacefully and continue to help them. He has saved more lives then ruined.

[@Lizzardtong]

i love morally grey missions, i love it when there is no "right" choice, it forces you to pick a side and live with the consequences. that said, i'd pick the replace ending, i don't care if it mirrors the institute, it even would be poetic considering who "Father" is. but the point is, the end result is peace. i rather let a lie take root and bring peace then let the truth destroy the peace.

[@AboxoroxRoxursox]

Lizzardtong Rorschach disapproves.

[@tex4763]

Lizzardtong you're starting to sound a little like the government there ;)

[@johnsmith-yf8vx]

same here there is no need for valance unless it is raiders in nuka world then i say let them have it . then call in the minute men to finished them off .

[@joshuacarpenter7447]

No it's not Dancing

[@zten9092]

AboxoroxRoxursox Never compromise, not even in the face of Armageddon

[@tastytwixthefirst]

29:44 This has to be the best voice line in the whole game. Change my mind?

[@halopro8958]

That along with “Look dumbass, that’s not how baseball was played” And “I’m here to pick up two pepperonis and calzone, name is Fuck You”

[@taboobeats9431]

Valentine admires that. I’m done, I’m so proud

[@kelseybishop8128]

Don't forget "Eddie! It's me! Your old pal Sally McFuckyourself."

[@mariocollisionmaker]

Oh shit it really is. Its bizarre hearing that kind of delivery

[@execute6200]

@@halopro8958 And also, "No, I'm Jangles. The Moon Monkey." This line made me laugh for a minute or two. The VA does a great job

[@andychow5509]

I think Dima said it best when he reflected he knew he was a monster, and he could accept that, and it was up to you to see if you could also accept being a monster. You did the best choice, which required you to be basically the worst thing: Kidnap someone, kill him, then replace him with a synth. A synth that you also killed by performing a lobotomy on them. I think you did the best choices.

[@TailsDollOS]

I just exiled Tektis. Pragmatically chose this ending because of merchants. Especially Assault Marine armor that along with ballistic weaved military fatigues + the hat. It gave the possibility to basically max out my settlers' defense stats

[@paulhudson5587]

Youre being forced to make a deal with an insane murderer...thats NOT a choice, its certainly not the "best choice" either just because its the only one offered to you. For dima to stand there and guilt trip you about accepting being a monster like him just smacks of narcicism and shows his insanity.

[@Kohiravaa]

I walked into the DLC and had a STRONG feeling that there was never going to be a "happy ending." And what do you know, I was 100% right. But I actually like that; often times real life doesn't have a true "happy ending". There is always SOMEONE who gets hurt. So I thought Bethesda did good with this DLC's ending, because it has a sinking feeling of realism (As real as Fallout can be)

[@Captain_FAIL]

That's whole dlc is about making hard decisions,literally choosing the least of many evils.

[@SuperDeathclaws]

Ox seems to live in a world where everything turns out good for everyone

[@lowlsqwid]

i'd rather chose the most of all the evils.

[@atomikdogg4331]

I'd say where Dima faces Justice is the best since Acadia is fine Avery is avenged really when you think of it it's the best ending lol

[@Damocles16]

A machine face "justice"?... Well that's new. As Director of the institute, I'm accountable for any misconduct from one of our synths. So come at me.

[@thehelmethead4883]

It is the best ending, you don't get anything out of it aside the satisfaction that you did good at the best of your ability without picking a side, and a thank you from the nicer people that you've helped. Which anyone who does charity can understand. Y'all just greedy...

[@gingerale2131]

If dima wouldnt have done that the whole island woualve died

[@Pallysilverstar]

I agree, and as for missing the perks, I dont think any perk that requires you to be at low health is a good perk no matter the benefit

[@tufwear44]

I got the ending where Allen and the others destroy Acadia and when I realized it was too late and I couldn’t load back ;-;

[@conekiii4211]

Yeah I got that and now have to load a save way earlier 😒

[@iTheDevil]

I got the best ending convincing Tektus to leave and saving all factions. I just think of it the way that even if DiMA has blood on his hands he realizes what has been done. However Acadia has already done a lot of improvements to the island life. So it is more beneficial to keep Acadia in this world. The Children can also do a lot of good. A lot of them are immune to radiation, meaning that they can do work in irradiated areas. So what I mean is every faction benefits others with what they can do. There is no place for emotions when there is a question of survival. Plus what's the point in justice/revenge past such a long time? It will not change the fact that someone has been murdered. It will only cause more blood.

[@SuperhotdogZz]

I did this ending also, but human are inherently irrational creatures. Justice and vengeance is something part of our nature. This peace would not last long.

[@matthewkeary1114]

In one of my playthroughs, I killed the children just to hear Nick say my favorite quote in such a smooth voice.

[@bruhicusmomentus3060]

*I am become death, destroyer of worlds.*

[@aidendeverin9835]

I kill thousands. DiMa kills one... Apocalypse.

[@1983McGovern]

Relixie Gaming yep, Dima’s the bad guy! You kill indiscriminately equal. Dima makes thought of action which is much worse....lol

[@Sickoflife]

I always found that funny. We the sole survivor are THE bad guy of the game. We mass murder constantly and we are veiwed as a hero but all others are viewed as evil. How many settlements did Preston send us to that was occupied by sleeping raiders or a gunner camp that you just walk by and shred everyone just for thier ammo. Yes some fights are in self defense but many we are the aggressor. All in the name of "the greater good" which is only an opinion never a fact.

[@unforgiven181]

I thought that was weird too.. he was talking how he felt uneasy with killing and replacing with syth.. as he is talking.. shows him just killing people like crazy.. I was like... Really?? you have a problem with murder?? DiMa killed ONE person... and you Never met the real her... who the hell knows what she was like.. she could have been worse then Allen Lee..

[@krystalmess_7699]

@@Sickoflife you say that like raiders and gunners are innocent people. Gunners, kinda. They still "raid" though if its useful for them, but you can literally hear raiders saying "god I hate it when they struggle, its just you or me, nothin personal"

[@MaelstromValkyrie]

He says killing one person makes him feel grim, when the for the most part u spend your time killing everyone and everything

[@CaironOzi]

If you play the game in a “good moral” way, the people you kill, don’t deserve to live usually.

[@wardenai7650]

Yea speaking morally when running around killing off another faction mindlessly :p but sure they suffer from the fog or the new guy has to die syndrome.

[@LordHookie]

I play the game sniping people who talk too much, so there was no moral questions here reallyhe killed like, a personohs hit nohnoawer

[@wardenai7650]

Yea but the whole perspective of morals in this game is screwed up when you have quests and storylines which makes you think morally then 5min later you nuke away and massacre a whole bunch of people who survive their only way they know, Finch farm quest is trying to touch it but it does'nt go in depth of it. I hate the fact that raiders and gunners mostly attack on sight and that the game does'nt try to resolve that conflict or give the option to choose side and maybe change the people who does these attrocities. The Vaultdweller is the biggest psychopath in the game, because of the lack of motive behind the massacres. Raiders and Gunners defend their territory from you, while you attack them for not respecting their areas.

[@AnoAssassin]

My character's morality in the game is simple, never shoot first: wait for them to start the fight. Then you'll know that you aren't making a mistake. And that's about it. He didn't even shoot first with the Institute, he worked with them right until the last moment and then went to Mass Fusion with the Brotherhood, thus making the synths at the Tower shoot first and allowing him to go on the offense with the Institute, and went to attack the Institute base only after they assaulted the Castle. Basically every human kill he's done has been either self defense or defense of his allies, like settlers against Gunners etc. Never kill a human who's not actively trying to kill you or your friends. That's about it. I didn't even kill Tektus, just sent him away.

[@jackgunsmith1632]

My first go at this dlc without any prior knowledge I got the "good" ending as I did every quest and went for peace. Its nice to see that there were so many other options

[@Ultraempoleon]

I saved Kasumi... Then came back with the bois (bos) to destroy Arcadia :3

[@HeffeJeffeHehe]

best ending imo

[@wyattvanthul8893]

The Ultraempoleon yeah I wanted to save kasumi so I did the same thing

[@empire-classfirenationbatt2691]

Yeah shame I felt bad for Kasumi lol but I chose the peace ending. Kasumi is a sweetie and should be with her family... but nothing stops me from going into nucleus and killing them all anyway or destroying Acadia again haha

[@loganwilliams9104]

@@empire-classfirenationbatt2691 I wiped out Acadia with Kasumi in it just so I could prove she wasn't a synth

[@VIREX-n7g]

Same but with the institute

[@Mikeh2077]

Good Ending: Agree to help Dima replace Tektus with a Synth Bad Ending: Destroy Acadia, Far Harbor, and the Nucleus. Smart Ending: Nuke the Children of Atom. There all bungholes.

[@phoen1xashes708]

Wipe Acadia out while your at it. Ad Victorium!

[@andonemaniac8220]

The Joker those synths are property of the institute.

[@chrisrandall9260]

Smart ending!!!!

[@HamidMN]

You mean "they are" =)

[@trulythedude]

Michael Haney glory to atom you lil bitch

[@TK-hr7lk]

I still walked away feeling dirty So I took a shower

[@thestrongestsoul5203]

DEEP

[@ytjk5633]

@Renvis Even as a character aligned with railroad/minutemen acadia is literally the brothershoods worst fear come true. Some synths in the background pulling strings on the human race, murdering and replacing people of their own free will.....No institute involvement whatsoever. Can't blame them. This is just synths being an actual danger to humanity all on their own. Children of Atom is a literal radicalized suicide cult. Nothing more need be said.

[@thatguynexus5935]

Far Harbor scared the crap out of me. I had headphones on when a glowing one and some ghouls surprised me at the hotel. What an experience.

[@nolanbreen7631]

Ok. Just to point this out Arcadia is quite similar to Acadia witch was a colony at Nova Scotia in Canada that was famous for having all of the residents deported to Louisiana. This is quite close to how the synths were deported from the wasteland to another colony.

[@caslandry2847]

In the game it actually is called Acadia too. It's called Acadia because it's in Acadia Natl. park and they probably just saw the name on the signs (same as Far Harbour = Bar Harbour) but I also saw some parallels when I played the game.

[@johnsmith-yf8vx]

yea i heard of that to . not sure if it is true .

[@Nuka-Paladin]

Personally, based on my view of synths, I had DiMA confess to far harbor, then wiped out the children of atom with the division speech check. Then I had the Brotherhood wipe out Acadia. It felt really good at the time, but your videos continue to challenge my views and opinions. Great video, and well done!

[@duckyconchotheoriginal4896]

Neurofunke let the people know the truth

[@RDeathmark]

I don't know how you could feel good about siding with the Brotherhood about anything, the first playthrough of Fallout 4 I did I sided with the Brotherhood and sincerely thought that I had chosen the evil faction by accident, this was further cemented in my mind when I sided with the institute on the second playthrough, and realized that the Brotherhood and Institute were two sides of the same coin but that I felt significantly better about siding with the Institute than the Brotherhood if for no other reason than when I was killing the Brotherhood every one of them had signed up knowing the risks involved, whereas when I was raiding The Institute it was a bunch of scientists who had probably mostly never held a gun in their lives. I haven't done railroad or Minutemen but I feel like honestly The Institute is probably going to be my favorite ending out of all available

[@tylerellis9097]

RDeathmark, and what about all the innocents the institute kill every day, theirs also children on the prywden and you can choose to evacuate the institute. The brotherhood doesn’t have innocent human blood on their hands, remember university point.

[@RDeathmark]

@@tylerellis9097 if you evacuate the Institute as the Brotherhood you are not acting as the Brotherhood to start. Second maybe I didn't get my point across correctly but my point was that both the Brotherhood and The Institute felt like evil factions to side with, but between the two I felt far better siding with the Institute than I did with the Brotherhood. With the Institute there is I think illegitimate hope for the betterment of humanity, especially with the sole survivor in charge of the Institute. However with the Brotherhood they are too zealous I think to really have any chance of achieving much if any good. And regardless of actual moral implications for the actions or factions that I side with, it just feels better to side with the Institute than it does to side with the Brotherhood. By the end of the Brotherhood questline I was role playing as someone following orders because I was given the orders and I need to follow the orders, I was basically role playing as someone who assumed that their actions were working towards some greater good that they just couldn't see in the moment something like that at least. Whereas with the Institute between the genuinely touching moments that you have with your son and what I legitimately believe is a chance that the Institute can do a lot of good especially with the correct leadership, combined with what my original comment said about in the Brotherhood you are slaughtering the scientists and non-combatants mostly and with the Institute you are fighting against almost exclusively a military faction I felt significantly better about siding with the Institute in the end.

[@tylerellis9097]

RDeathmark, not really plenty of brotherhood members do what they think is right leader Maxson will spare danse even though it goes against his code, and your just simply wrong the institute is far more evil then the brotherhood, I mean Minutemen are the best but the bos are not evil like the institute let’s see what the bos has done for the commonwealth. Brotherhood They protect the trade caravans. Freely trade and sell their goods to diamond city and other settlements. Risk their lives destroying mutants, Ferals and monster plus they attack raiders, gunners and the nuka world raiders cause their threats to the commonwealth not for their tech. They don’t attack civilians on sight and protect settlements if in the area. They actually believe their helping the commonwealth. Institute Synths attack on sight and attack settlements not at war with them. Replace and kill people, infiltrate settlements with their agents Created swan and the commonwealth super mutants. Use diamond city and other settlements as testing grounds for experiments. Killed every one in university point. Destroyed the commonwealth government. Theirs also zero evidence they’ll change and our player has no effect on the futures in Bethesda titles. Maxson and the bos soldiers also don’t target the scientist unless you do and guess what the institute synths and turrets shoot at the scientists to.

[@atumra5]

As the famous philosopher would say: When in doubt Whip it out - Christopher Wistopher

[@omnical6135]

very wise

[@connerthegreat1162]

Man there is nothing better than the story from Far Harbor. By far the best fallout experience from any fallout game

[@themissingpeace7956]

Something bothers me, why would the people of Far Harbor kill DiMA for taking Captain Avery's life but no one seem to be bothered that Allan killed a CoA missionary? Shouldn't he also be punished/held accountable for starting this whole mess? Maybe it's just me hating the guy...

[@TheEvilLordExdeath]

I think it is because Allan is one of them so he gets off of being punished, plus he has a strong personality so most would listen to him and he is the one that gets them most of their weapons. The only real thing he got was a tongue thrashing from Captain Avery.

[@fscorpion678]

Lonely Noodle Because the CoA are evil

[@chandrawagner4061]

I think also that killing DiMA is a way to keep the peace between Arcadia and Far Harbor since no matter what there will be an "us vs them" attitude from Far Harbor and if one of Arcadia's members killed a Far Harbor person with no punishment three citizens wouldn't allow a peace. At least that's how it seemed to me.

[@charleslindeman2169]

I didn't get why you didn't have a Minutemen angle to this whole mess where you send in the Minutemen to basically act as arbitrators and ease the tensions between the three factions. Let them all argue with the best ending having both Allen and DiMA are punished for their crimes and Tektus is forced to stand down as high confessor. The Minutemen are seriously underutilized in this game.

[@themissingpeace7956]

It’s called hypocrisy lol

[@Lizard-og3iy]

They should have added a minutemen ending for the faction endings

[@somerandomguy7235]

Blitz the Blizzard Lizard I feel like that would be a pretty interesting concept where the Minutemen send an expedition to try to colonize far Harbor but then something goes wrong like war with the children of atom happens

[@Leon_TheSex_Kennedy]

Blitz the Blizzard Lizard that makes no sense what would they have done?

[@josh8358]

They did.

[@sarcasmselftestcomplete5969]

The minutemen ending would be the entire island covered in settlements that need help

[@RonnieBondayy]

They would send minutemen to Far Harbor to help out and defend the people living there, like doing the quests or killing those big fuckoff frogs. They could be led by Ronnie Shaw, give her character more to do.

[@Annaperkele]

Blow up the nucleus, save far-harbor and when it's all said and done put on ''fortunate son'' and come flying in BoS vertibirds to flatten Arcadia!

[@watgaming9479]

Annaperkele Fortunate son on anti-sota laulu mutta ok

[@FerroLux00]

Annaperkele me too lol. I basically kept peace between all the factions, replacing Tektus, and bringing Kasumi home Then I slaughtered everyone in Acadia, and blew up the Nucleus. (While I was listening to the “Evil Morty Theme). My character doesn’t like deranged humans.

[@americanfrontier2448]

FerroLux _ *For The Damaged Coda* you mean

[@johnsmith-yf8vx]

then he would not like bos then .

[@julianmarx2002]

Good DLC overall, but I'm firm in the notion that this should have been an intimate smaller scale story where the whole story is searching for the girl, finding clues, building up to a dramatic conclusion with some shadowy antagonist, rather than finding her immediately and once again having to "save the world"/choose factions, revealing the premise to be a bait and switch. Thematically, this could've been a way to get more out of the main character, it being a chance to save a child in a way that he failed to with his son, etc. In short, there could have been greater emotional payoff, and they could have gotten more out of Far Harbor's awesome atmosphere were the story more of a Silent Hill type mystery.

[@notnice94]

You forgot to mention the ending where you can basically destroy all factions on the island and either leave it desolated or rebuild it with your settlemets.

[@josephmatthews7698]

Dang. Fallout add-ons are always so much better than the main game. Why is that? If we took over the institute why can't we just replace Maxson instead of another endless boss fight? If we take over the minutemen and bust our humps for the Commonwealth why can't we make the entire populace of the Commonwealth unite against the brotherhood and the institute? Maybe father would reconsider his moral highground with a thousand people marching outside his door or convince Maxson it isn't worth it. If we go railroad why can't we unite with the Minutemen and become their espionage arm? Why can't we establish a democratic ending? Each of our settlements and their population vote for a leader and a Commonwealth provisional government is formed. Why does fallout 4 feel so dang formulaic? Text>explore>loot>boss battle>build>text>explore>loot AD NAUSEUM. It really makes me want to hunker down and spend the money to make a mod that delivers a more fulfilling and thoughtful ending than just 'blow em all up and walk away a badass' I mean geez Bethesda why can't your entire game be like far harbor or nukaworld?

[@turbogoblin8232]

its bethesdas way of making money bethesda developer: so this is the base game we will give this for normal price certain ammount of time later developer: all right this is the new DLC and its better than the first game lets overprice it and make people angry that theu cant afford it

[@guardianknight5842]

Why can't we have a non violent ending. All 4 factions want what's good for the commonwealth. If the institute agrees to treat synths like people then that would be peace with the railroad and institute. Then the brotherhood and institute can share tech, advancing mankind. And they can work with the minutemen to wipeout raiders,mutants, gunners and the beast of the wasteland.

[@Kazakh.Steppe_Ranger]

Well, technically Bethesda's "Fallouts" are the ones with addons better than their games themselves. The real RPGs like Fallout 1-2 and New Vegas can do pretty well even without any mods or addons, but if you add Fallout Fixt, Fallout 2: Restoration Project or Fallout 2 Megamod, and Fallout: New Vegas Ultimate Edition with some really good mods you will get an almost perfect RPG

[@1OldWriter]

@@turbogoblin8232 There's a mod for that

[@t.t6294]

because that terrible writer emil writes the the main story far harbor had a different writer thank god emil's not the lead writer anymore

[@sarahjohnson4231]

So my first mistake is wanting to forgive Dima because he is a product of the institute. They would have replaced their enemies multiple times over, he did it once, realized what he had done and tried to make options to avoid doing it again. We come along and uproot everything so he has to consider a second. I don’t think he deserves to die, for the one fact that his AI has seen that exact example work time and again. In a way he’s been conditioned by that example, and we could say: the game was rigged from the start.

[@DBZFighter79]

"i walked away feeling dirty" welcome to the wastland

[@mr.anderson3369]

My early game impression of the institute was quite a different one when I started a survival mode playthrough, just head south to the parking lot behind Concord, I decided to head south instead of to Tempines, therell be institute synths looking to kill you on sight that early on in the game.

[@besserwissersmartass1170]

This.....this is why we are supposed to carry Shotguns in the early game

[@gamergodplays7153]

“I am become death, destroyer of worlds” What a great quote

[@ddelarosa96]

This is CERTAINLY without a doubt in my mind, the best ending. First, no deaths. You have convinced Tektus to leave peacefully. The Children of Atom don’t appear to elect their High Confessor, so you’re not replacing a leader chosen by the masses, you are replacing one unchosen leader with another, and a sane one at that. A SANE zealot, one who can draw in and control a flock of potential killers and issuing a commandment of peace, that will stick. And I believe, in this game, Synths are essentially human. So in the same way a synth is human, they can make their own decision, even if that decision is making the ultimate sacrifice for peace. Everyone lives and there is peace for all.

[@StormyKopaAMVs]

I'd say what DiMA did to Captain Avery was morally wrong, but I wouldn't objectively call it a "mistake". Sometimes there's no easy way out. Sometimes you find yourself placed between two diverging train tracks with people bound to both sides, and you must decide whether to pull the lever that will take one life...or do nothing and let the train hit ten others. It's entirely possible that Far Harbor and the Children of Atom would have wiped each other out without his intervention. That's why I ultimately chose to keep his secret and replace Tektus with a synth. Telling the truth, righteous as it may make me feel, would have only caused more bloodshed and distrust - from people who mostly only want to live their lives in peace. So I told him to run, because even though I disliked Tektus, I decided that he didn't deserve to die for simply being in my way. It was too late to save Avery, but that wasn't an excuse to justify another murder of the same nature. Getting DiMA to confess was a nice touch of justice, but ultimately it achieves nothing. The truth doesn't always set you free. I'm sorry, but painting the events as "letting DiMA get away with murder" is actually laughable in the world of _Fallout 4._ I'm all for upholding moral principles for the sake of preserving our humanity, but come on Ox, context matters, as does time and place. I can say without hesitation that the Sole Survivor has already done far worse by the time they reach Far Harbor. Even if you justify every life you took in the game as self-defence, how do you know those people didn't have families to feed, or their own principles to uphold? What if someone genuinely saw you as a threat to those principles? History is written by the victor, so does the Sole Survivor walking away alive make you right? I'm fully aware that this is the kind of self-justification that allows the Institute to do what they do, of course. But DiMA is far more careful about these things, and like you said, he recognizes the morality (or lack thereof) in his actions. I still told him he was a monster though, all the while recognizing that the Sole Survivor is one too. It's understandable that you felt "dirty" about your part in the events...but all I can say is that's how it feels to act upon the utilitarian mentality. It's how much of our history was written, censored as it is. It doesn't mean you're jumping at the opportunity to help the Institute replace people with synths, and it doesn't mean your Sole Survivor is ultimately a bad person. No one really makes it through life guilt-free, and that's especially true in a post-apocalyptic world. In any case, I love the social commentary presented by the Far Harbor DLC and all the questions of morality that comes with it. If only more of _Fallout 4_ followed this example.

[@raylenn4444]

anyway, there's no good ending in life, only the least worst ending of the bunch. that's why we should stop being hypocrites about it and accept it as much as we should accept ourselves.

[@ladyalicent705]

Stormy Kopa If you sided with BoS or the Institute then you can destroy Arcadia and then you don’t need to let DiMA get away with murder, then again though, you have to side with a evil faction in the main quest to achieve this.

[@Chino56751]

Don't waste your sympathy on the Raiders

[@sophiabelfor]

The Trolley Problem's theory, isn't it? well, if that's the case, let's kill them all, it's only fair 😏

[@pvtmasmith]

I chose to kill Tektus because I like to play based on what i would do if this was real life, in the game we know that letting him go is the same as killing him as far as the game is concerned that would be the end of him but in the real world its possible he comes back and decides " no I will not let them push me out of my position atom needs me to guide his children" if there is 2 Tektus 's that would make things worse than when we started this whole thing, so that is why I killed him.

[@Gothamz-gy8ku]

Seriously, I feel like the best option for diehard BOS fans with a good heart are pretty obvious. You can follow through with the peaceful quest in Far Harbor and save all three faction, therefore saving Kasumi and returning her to her family. Then, you trigger your inner BOS hatred of synths, and go back to the BOS, and you fly over to Acadia and kill all the synths, including DiMA, who you know is in a morally dark ground, and has to die for his crimes. This way, you get all the perks, all the legendary weapons, and also save Kasumi from death of Acadia. You, a fervent believer of the principles of the BOS, no longer have to live with the fact that you let an evil SYNTH live, and you also ensure that there is peace on the island, at least between humans. As a member of the BOS, you shouldn't have much of a problem witnessing the deaths of mere synths, provided they don't include Kasumi.

[@DannieDecentVlogs]

Jerry Wang that is what i am gonna do cause iam hardcore bos but i wanna save kasumi ,

[@captainseyepatch3879]

Good job siding with the Human Garbage BoS.

[@wagwarn3957]

NUKE THE CHILDREN KILL THE SNYTHS TAKE THE TOWN AD VICTURM

[@surfyplayer8231]

Kashmir isn’t a synth

[@Manoloutti]

Ad Victoriam

[@joanned8172]

Great video Oxhorn and i agree is now way to finish Far Harbor without feeling bit dirty. I am glad its this way though, i love how bethesda really makes us think about the paths we choose. Going into Far Harbor though i really really wanted to take out the children of Atom in revenge for all those times some of them fired their stupid gamma guns at me. I ended up choosing the peaceful ending though due to a few members of the children being decent people.

[@TheFlyOnYourWall]

I never feel dirty for helping the children reach their "Division"

[@blazednlovinit]

Not having DIMA judged (and executed) is the lesser of two evils there, if your objective is to minimise loss of life (considering he had already felt the remorse of what he had done and is clearly not a hardened psychopath.

[@phoen1xashes708]

I had the brotherhood wipe out acadia, after I got the perk. Synth's are machines, not people. Ad Victoriam!

[@danielhogan6255]

@@phoen1xashes708 free thinking artificial intelligence isnt the same as a toaster. Gen 1's and 2's are one thing. Gen threes are no different biologically than kellog. Or any cybernetically enhanced person for that matter....big MT Anyone??

[@CDMOOVEE]

The way you put this together is outstanding! Excellent editing. Personally I think the most moral ending is to do all the helpful quests for all factions , convince Dima to turn himself in, and then walk away and let the factions work things out for themselves. In other words, don't get involved with that part, and forgoe all the perks. Don't kill Tectus or abet a synth mind wipe. Whatever happens between the factions after that is not your decision, and not on you. That's the ending where you think for yourself and not allow yourself to be limited to Bethesda's options.

[@ladymecha8718]

It's the worst ending is to kill far harbour, and the children of atom, and report deima to the institute or. Brotherhood of steel.

[@ModernWhoFan5B]

While I chose the "best" ending, I actually kind of like the fact there is no "good" ending. In real life, not everything ends in sunshine and rainbows and everyone happy, and I think that Far Harbor reflects that pretty well. I would also rank the destruction of the nucleus as the second best; everyone wants division, but nobody wants it now.

[@eroden9]

Ethical dilemma-wise, we're dealing with the same level of ambiguity that you had with The Pitt. With The Pitt, the best ending of that one was just to leave everything in place and go home.

[@vukodlak3962]

Better comparison is Tenpenny Tower, both endings are bad and its best to just walk away. To me there was no ambiguity in The Pitt. My choice was clear do I side with the slaves who want to be free? Or a Despot whose army of raiders has caused untold misery because he happens to be a loving father. How many committees were wiped out in order to provide slaves for The Pitt? How many people died due to his raiders going out and stealing supplies?

[@eroden9]

Or, in the Pitts case, do you support Ashur and his quest for a cure for mutation, or do you turn the kid over to the slaves (who say they'll continue the research, but in reality have little resources and less time to follow through)?

[@Tommonius]

Dan Skelley I remind you that the leader of the slaves lied to you the entire time, have no people to research a cure and the head guy was ashur's right hand man, it was a power grab

[@TheBangooman]

There's no ethical dilemma. You killed raiders during the game? Then this is no different. We've been making those calls since day one in this game, and it's not even adressed, yet somehow now we grow a conscience....

[@honorguard7616]

Ashur = wanted to free slaves and get cure but not harm kid ,vs the other guy= get freed and cured asap, no matter the cost

[@StalwartShinobi]

Having nick with you for a while then taking him to far harbour is such an experience as opposed to anyone else, even though some still get unique dialogue, I feel nicks responses to quests and speeches is genuine and gives you alot for empathy towards the synths

[@8888stealth]

Reminds me of Watchmen where the world is saved all on a lie, but if the lie ever got out or percieved as anything but true then war would break out instantly. A decision between saving a life with a lie or saying the truth but killing the life. Knowing full well if the truth ever came out at anytime the people would die. I love it, so fucking grey. The word gray itself is even grey because I just spelled it two different ways and my dictionary can't tell me which one is right.

[@Upyours99xs]

@Oxhorn idk if you have done this but there’s a more evil ending then what you mentioned. What I did with my evil character was convince the children of atom to embrace division and got the perk from far harbor. Then I shut down the wind turbine and killed all of them. Then I went back to Arcadia and DiMA was super mad at me and told me to leave. Then I went to the Institute and told them about Arcadia and whipped them out. When I was done know one was left on the island. That is the true evil ending.

[@insertcoolnamehere8516]

bro that’s like evil^6💀

[@disguyovaheere8140]

"there is no satisfying ending" yeah there is its the one where you kill all 3 factions

[@Joesolo13]

DisGuy OvahEere nuke the COA, let in the fog, then have the brotherhood wipe the synths? sounds like a fun time.

[@FunkyFlunky2332]

DisGuy OvahEere problem is you can't kill both Far Harbor using the turbines and nuke the Childhood of Atom, then again I shut down the turbine first and lost the option to nuke them so I could be wrong, and I killed the BOS so Institute would be my last option which I haven't explored

[@ktaymeb]

nah you can. it just won't show up as a quest, but you can go to either location(depending on which you chose first) and destroy those factions

[@detritusofseattle]

Well, I actually explored two endings. The first was where I personally massacred the Children of Atom. Not with their nuke, but rather just with my sword. I went Darth Vader on them. I reloaded a save after my companion got mad about it. I never went back to Dima or FH, so not sure how they would react. In my full playthrough, I chose the peaceful options, even sparing Tektus. I am not thrilled about what Dima had done, but he has shown remorse, and without his help, peace couldn't have been attained. Sometimes justice isn't locking someone away or executing them. Sometimes it isn't even exposing their sins. Sometimes it's forgiveness. I sided with the institute, and I actually told Dima this. He begged me not to turn them in, and I agreed. I intend to honor that agreement. In my head canon, I will honor it as long as Dima keeps the peace. If Dima ever steps out of line again, I send in my coursers and everyone goes back to the institute. I like to think he understands this. I interpret this debacle with Dima as proof that rogue synths are dangerous. They may be people, but they are still machines, machines that can be extremely dangerous if left unchecked. I will tolerate Acadia because it is useful as a way to gather rogue synths into a single place where they can be monitored. A kind of experiment.

[@ShneekeyTheLost]

I will say that I kinda actually like this DLC *BECAUSE* there is no 'good' ending. It's a grimdark crapsack world, sometimes you don't have a 'good' choice, only 'bad' and 'worse'. For my part, I think it would be laughably hypocritical of the Lone Survivor to balk at executing a guy who, bluntly, has it coming, and replace him with a Synth. It is the least number of people killed for the optimal outcome. Look at how many people you've killed already, after all. Raiders, Super Mutants, Gunners, Institute Synths... you've already got blood on your hands by this point. So really, the question is... where do YOUR goals lie? Personally, as the General of the Minutemen, my goal was a minimum of bloodshed for peace. So, I sided with DiMA, took out the bastard, replaced him with a synth, and slept well at night. After all, you're looking a two murders, one of them begging to happen, the other (from some time ago) is... a tragedy, one of a very, very long list of tragedies you have to deal with, but there's nothing that can be done at this point to resolve it. Plus a voluntary synth-wipe, which, if you are aligned with the Railroad, is something you're comfortable with by now. And as a result, three colonies now enjoy peace, and can live together in harmony. Its it morally perfect? Nope, not in the least. But at least now there can be peace, and really... because of the stain on your hands, the next generation can be a little less dirty.

[@kevray]

ShneekeyTheLost but Dima has control of all 3 factions. Maybe this "peace" was just a way for him to control the island he can do whatever he wants now

[@ShneekeyTheLost]

xXGHOSTXx R If that means everyone gets alone, I'm fine with that. I think of him more as a governor of the area, keeping it safe and profitable for me. If he gets too uppidy, he'll find out what size pond he's in and what size frog he actually is...

[@michael3k80]

He could do whatever he wanted whatever - kill one side or both is not a problem - but he is not like that perhaps because he is not a human that why he doesnt seek means to control them(factions) but to have just fuXXXX peace...

[@destroyerblackdragon]

Did no one just talk to the Leader of the CoA. You can convince him to leave. I always keep some grape mentats on me just in case in fact. Just like you can also convince Dima to turn himeslf in but than Avery gets killed and she's not a bad person. She just tries to keep the peace and sometimes in order to keep the peace you have to get your hands dirty. That's why DIma Erased his memory.

[@thefeleapz4144]

ShneekeyTheLost: to be honest, I'm sick of the whole "there is no good or bad ending" crap. It just takes away the freedom of the player and that's why it is way more satisfying to play as someone who is "good" or "evil" in Fallout 3/New Vegas.

[@JJSogaard]

The fact that there is no "good" choice is one of the reasons I love this DLC so much

[@jacobmonroe3899]

I love that Far Harbor is so morally conflictive. Also, I am from Maine and have lived here my whole life, so that also makes it pretty cool... Even if some of the accents are just awful. Lol

[@mudshrooze]

wait were they trying to do accents? i ddnt even realise :D

[@jacobmonroe3899]

Mudshrooze Mostly the nameless NPCs, but yeah, there are some terrible attempts.

[@mudshrooze]

well as an Alaskan American any accent that's not something we hear here is cool :D sorry they butchered them though :D.

[@KreatorOfDeath1985]

This is what the accent sounds like after nuclear fallout

[@brotherbruno1783]

Funnily enough, I think the question as to the most moral outcome to this DLC comes from Boone in New Vegas. “A murdered that does good deeds is still a murderer.” DiMA is, by all accounts, guilty of murder - and conspiracy to murder, as well. He only voluntarily submits to justice if you pass a difficult speech check, implying that it isn’t his immediate intention to answer for his crime. Regardless of what happens to Acadia, what DiMA did demands an answer. Allowing Avery’s murder to be repeated for the exact same reason without any shred of justice being handed to the perpetrator is, in my opinion, the single most immoral action you could pick.

[@Callsign_Prophet]

I did the peaceful ending.... Then I called in the BoS

[@johnsmith-yf8vx]

i took out bos with the institute then i came to far harbor and never told the institute about Arcadia .