Lets Shop For A Day Trading Computer Setup (January 2017 Edition)

Lets Shop For A Day Trading Computer Setup (January 2017 Edition)
itNate is going to walk you through his process for selecting computer components when he builds a computer. You can use this same process to match up your hard and build your own day trading computer setup.
Download the spreadsheet: claytrader.com/docs/ComputerBuildSpreadsheet.xlsx
Processor: amzn.to/2ko23jm
Heatsink: amzn.to/2kAXRgc
Motherboard: amzn.to/2kOsPSV
Memory: amzn.to/2jzAIXq
Storage: amzn.to/2jRYazP
Optical: amzn.to/2kdfTTx
Case: amzn.to/2kOxDYw
Video Card: amzn.to/2knBueE
Power Supply: amzn.to/2knK6lr
Windows: amzn.to/2jRPKJ4

[@Betothelifecoach]

Nate, you are the greatest guy in the world, tell Clay to give you a bonus or a raise, man I was just thinking about something like this and all of you sudden you come up for this great info. For me is great since I don't know much about hardware, thanks Bert

[@claytrader]

He did a great job for sure!

[@sander5817]

This motherboard don't directly support the the Intel 7*00 series, you should take a board with the b250 or z270 chipset. Also a 550 or a 450w power-supply is more than enough for this application. And this graphics card is really old and just 512mb of gpu memory isn't enough to run multiple screens. Also the mini fan is very noisy. The memory channel for the processor is dual, so you always need to use ram-memory sticks in sets of 2.

[@claytrader]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@tomasznadolski3631]

sander van bommel hey can I ask you to post graphic card you would use in this set up? also what fan and so on. I'm a dummy at this but I do appreciate your input and I would like to get this right.

[@sander5817]

Personally i would buy a AMD RX470, with this card you can control 4 monitors without any problems.

[@roxyqueen5076]

I agree but .Mr.Clay I think what he is showing here ..how easy and basic and cheap you can build a trading station without going broke..LOL

[@claytrader]

Exactly Roxy. The computer is only a tool, the knowledge is what matters in the end.

[@roxyqueen5076]

actually..I know Mr. Clay did this video a while back..so New Egg has a lot of deals..so Truly you can build this type of computer for $800 easily.. shop around.. Thanks Mr. Clay for your videos!!

[@claytrader]

Cheers!

[@Superpsychicsonicsol]

This video is right up my alley lol

[@claytrader]

Excellent!

[@amynoad9645]

Hey! I am new to this but interested in learning to day trade. I am watching through your trading 101 playlist and after that plant to invest in further education. However this video has come up and totally confused me, I have only started watching it but it feels like I would need a whole other course just to understand it. I was planning to just day trade from my average laptop, is that realistic? Because this whole computer set up seems very complex and expensive.

[@claytrader]

Your laptop would be just fine.

[@Oi-wz2dq]

As a tech guy, this video is really hard to watch. You are clearly not very well versed in PC hardware since the GPU will have difficulty powering a 1080p monitor, the PSU is 750W, however, you won't ever need more than 450W. The motherboard isn't directly compatible with the CPU. You don't include a CPU cooler, and just looking at what you searched on Amazon tells me you don't have a clue what you're talking about. My advice is DO NOT PURCHASE AND BUILD THIS PC. For that money, you can get a way better setup.

[@claytrader]

I'm quickly learning that everyone in the comment section on KZbin seems to be a "professional tech guy" lol

[@Oi-wz2dq]

I did not say I am a "professional tech guy"

[@claytrader]

The way you throw stones it sounds like you think highly of your own opinion.

[@brykit1972]

I am a pro (have worked in several tech shops over the years, but have been out of that sector for a while...work state IT support now; completely different animal) and Oliver isn't wrong. Details matter with builds. Just throwing together a list is haphazard. See my other reply about PC Part Picker.

[@Oi-wz2dq]

ClayTrader my opinion is based on facts and evidence.

[@bobbailey1288]

This was fantastic

[@claytrader]

Glad you enjoyed.

[@Weust]

If you want 16Gig of ram its better to get 2 sticks of 8Gig. Dual channel has al lot of more speed improvements

[@itnate129]

That's true, I like to plan for future expansion best I can though. But if you never plan to put in 64GB of RAM and want to cap yourself at 32GB then 8GB sticks would be just fine.

[@JM-oy8gz]

Wow I was looking for a video yesterday

[@claytrader]

And now you found one :-)

[@johnsmith-gr4bn]

Perfect timing... just ordered a processor yesterday and thanks to your video realized that i had the wrong LGA # and managed to cancel it in time. I have never build i computer, just been looking to upgrade mine but what kind of cooling system would you need for a setup like the one on the video?

[@itnate129]

John, I have always used the stock CPU coolers that come with the processor. Intel does a good job with their heat sinks/fans.

[@BenTorrie]

Thank you very much. Fantastic video. Well explained. Top man 👏👏👏

[@claytrader]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@pappucharlie]

Very well explained bro!

[@claytrader]

Thank you.

[@iSyre]

I built my own multi screen computer for it. I need to get another video card though to add more. I have a decent 4ghz processor and 16gb of ninja ram. Nothing major. If it breaks up get replacements. Also the computer and two screens was just under a grand. Some deals on sites. And BTW I went amd. Cheaper and still effective. Actually maybe you could help me nate. To change things to last or to add more screens. Crazy how much changed in a year! Wow. Wtf.

[@itnate129]

Glad I could help out.

[@iSyre]

Hey, if I get another video card I can just put it in and the mobo and what not will pick it up ok? i have 4 screens and looking to add 2 more

[@itnate129]

Yes, provided its a compatible card with your motherboard. One thing to note is that some times, depending on the motherboard, the onboard ports might be disable when a video card is installed.

[@iSyre]

So the extra ports could be disabled? I have no idea. and new egg refused to help me b/c they dont give recommendations or something... I need to find a way to add a video card or maybe just an MST hub but i dunno

[@apodgornyy]

I have i5 6600 with 16gb ram and rx480 nitro and run scanners chat room, 2 trading software, tc2000, Skype and twitter at all times and no issues. You don't really need i7, also I have 4 screens hooked up lol

[@claytrader]

Thanks for your thoughts.

[@roxyqueen5076]

Hi Nate!! Long time no see..ha ha..so I am finally ready to get my NEW computer!!! I had to come and watch a couple of your videos first before I took the plunge..I was going to try and build one but I really wanted someone here next to me to help me..so looks like tha't;s NEVER going to happen so I went to New Egg's site and here is what I found..but I'm really not sure if it will work well with 2 to 3 monitors and speed...I need speed and Ram is 16 Gb..well anyway let me just give you the whole description first..Now keep in mind that I will be running Think or Swim along with Option Vue etc.. Its a Lenovo ThinkCentre M900 Small Form Factor Desktop - Intel® Core™ i7-6700 4.00 GHz - 16GB DDR4 RAM - 1TB HDD - Windows 10 Pro - NVIDIA Quadro K420 - 1 Year Lenovo On-Site Warranty.....Do you think its worth $899? also for what we do in trading every day?

[@claytrader]

That all looks decent, the biggest concern would be the hard drive. Id strongly suggest you find something with an SSD or NVMe drive in it, they are way faster and more reliable.

[@pault7177]

100% newbie question. I also know very little about computers. I have graphic design background, we need tons of power, storage and memory. Why do you need special hardware for really just data? Not understanding. Thanks in advance

[@claytrader]

Cause you need to be sure all the data can be processed, quickly.

[@bucaforrester2142]

I haven't even started trading yet. I'm brand new and just educating myself. I have always used an iMac and I noticed no Apple products were mentioned in the video or in the comments. Would a new iMac and an additional monitor be sufficient for a trading set up? or is it a software compatibility issue?

[@claytrader]

That would work fine.

[@bucaforrester2142]

Thanks for the quick response

[@brykit1972]

I went to a Phil Town investing workshop this year. Phil ran his presentations/demonstrations from a MacBook. I work IT and was *very* impressed how he juggled it all just from a laptop. He's a pro trader/investor and swears by working with Macs. I am a PC guy right now that has an iPhone and iPad and has owned Macs in the past. I'm really ready to get back to the Mac experience when I get my trading/investing training off the ground.

[@bofors7111]

Thanks ... Clay!🖒

[@claytrader]

itNate gets all the credit on this one.

[@tradesuperstocks7908]

I trade on my laptop and cellphone.... Still doing fine... As long as your computer is reliable... That all it matters..

[@claytrader]

Yup. Reliability is the name of the game.

[@grantlyid]

Is it true that if you don't have a fast computer it could cause more slippage? I'm running a 24" monitor off a laptop but I have been getting slippage when placing market order trades, and wondering if this is the cause?

[@claytrader]

I mean, to an extent, but as long as you aren't running a computer from 1998 you'll be fine.

[@grantlyid]

Thanks for getting back Clay. My laptop is an i5, but there are specialized "Trading computer" companies out there telling me that I need the latest and greatest or I'll get screwed with slippage.

[@roxyqueen5076]

I would like to add to your comment ..for me Not only are you not going to get the last bid like yes it hurts and I couldnt tell you how many times I had problems because of ram and my speed.. If you go to TD Ameritrade and look at the SPECS for the Think Or Swim platform ..It tells you what you need in order for your shit to work ok.. I have an old computer too so I am saying it will absolutely affect your trading. But like Nate says you dont have to go over board and I totally understood after I saw his video. I know that I suffered and couldnt get filled at certain prices and I know for a fact it did so hurt my trading.

[@glennangay-angay2856]

Thanks for the video its really help me. How many monitors can support on this trading setup?

[@claytrader]

feel free to contact us at the site also, claytrader.com

[@robertcarraro7575]

what is the advantage of a video card verses just running 2 monitors off of the motherboard?

[@itnate129]

When using the motherboard for video it actually takes away from your system resources and isn't as efficient. A dedicated video card has its own graphics processor and RAM so it doesn't pull from any system resources and will perform much better. Also many motherboards only support 1 monitor so adding in a dedicated card might be the only way to get more monitors.

[@robertcarraro7575]

Thank you !

[@scottyflintstone]

$189 Walmart laptop + $50 (4gb extra ram) + $20 for 2nd monitor (craigslist)=portable day trade set up

[@claytrader]

How's it work? Happy with it?

[@scottyflintstone]

ClayTrader awesome! but its fun to have a high powered machine. luv the chanel btw

[@claytrader]

Great to hear!

[@2hrsToChooseThis]

I used to game and build gaming rigs, and it's so hard for me to build a tower without going over $1300 lol. What's your advice on avoiding possible internet outages while trading? It seems like once every few months my internet will stop working and I'll have to do a hard reset on the modem for it to work again.

[@jco7651]

Always have a stop set on your trades so If the price begins to drop it will automatically take you out of the trade even if your internet drops out. As for avoiding the internet outages, make sure you have a wired connection and consider switching to a different internet provider. FiOS is the fastest and most reliable right now, but not available in all areas. Try and avoid satellite and hotspots as they have the largest tendency to have outages.

[@claytrader]

What Jay said is some solid advice.

[@kevinxie7532]

@@jco7651 what kinds of laptop would you recommend for day trading?

[@jco7651]

@@kevinxie7532 Anything with 8-16Gb of RAM should be fine. No chromebooks. Some brokers only support windows, so if you're on a Mac you may need a program like Parallels to allow you to run windows. You can really get by with the bare minimum if you're using a laptop without multiple screens connected.

[@uimstr]

If anyone is struggling to build the best pc, pcpartpicker is a great site to use for that and the people on the forms help out lot in helping you find the best parts for a great price

[@claytrader]

Thanks for the comment.

[@BenTorrie]

Bono Larbi Thanks for that. Cheers.

[@brykit1972]

I was going to reply about PC Part Picker. It takes a lot of the guesswork out of builds. I just used it once and it saved me tons of time, money, and aggravation that I used to experience when I did builds by the seat of my pants (even with a build sheet). It lets you save custom build lists that you can come back to and modify, and the list is sharable. It automatically checks compatibility!! That's huge. It also tallies wattage so you know what grade power supply you'll need. It shops across various vendors to find the best prices. What I ended up doing was going with their part recommendations, then purchasing on Amazon or Newegg as I didn't want to deal with unknown/sketchy vendors. pcpartpicker.com/

[@simonghukasyan3401]

Hi, i am trying to build a day trading computer. Could you tell me what type of memory card should i get for this? This is the motherboard i will buy: ASUS ROG Maximus XI Hero (Wi-Fi) Z390 Gaming Motherboard LGA1151 (Intel 8th 9th Gen) ATX DDR4 DP HDMI M.2 USB 3.1 Gen2 802.11AC Wi-Fi Thanks in advance

[@claytrader]

What are you referencing as a memory card? are you talking RAM or long term storage like a hard drive or ssd? - itNate

[@simonghukasyan3401]

@@claytrader Thanks for helping me. I think i am talking long term : SSD, and i need something that will have M.2 type

[@jafothedaytrader349]

My current machine that is now six years old is starting to die, it was a monster in it's day but it is my belief the processor is the problem. I was debating between the AMD Ryzen 1800x and the INTEL 17-7700K as the processor. I run 6 monitors and two trading platforms. Would I be correct in understanding that what I use the computer for will not utilize the additional cores and threads? I know the Intel processor individual core speeds are superior to AMD just not sure if I would benefit from additional cores and threads? Thank you this was very helpful.

[@claytrader]

Both options for processors would be good choices. I haven't built any ryzen systems so I can speak to its practical functionality but on paper it certainly looks respectable. As for the multiple cores you should have no issues using up all of the cores. Its really going to depend on how the software is written but most modern software supports running across multiple cores.

[@jafothedaytrader349]

Thanks Clay, do you know off hand if Metatrader 4 supports multiple cores?

[@jafothedaytrader349]

I just found the answer to that, thank you. There is no clear winner here I think it will just come down to preference

[@claytrader]

Yeah, preference is what'll ultimately determine it.

[@tomasznadolski3631]

ok im actually using this vid to buy the components for my trading computer. also reading and modifying somethings from comment section, but can you tell me, is it rocket science to put this together or would an amateur be able to do it? I dont need anything like a solder, do I?

[@claytrader]

No need to solder anything, its all plug and play. It should be pretty simple to put together, if you get stuck there are a lot of good videos available to help you out.

[@doseofreality100]

If you can plug a cord into a socket you know all the physical labor skills required to put a comp together.

[@kradops]

do you have a video putting toguether the computer ?

[@claytrader]

Not at this time, perhaps in the future.

[@Manuel-bo8wj]

Hello is AMD not better than i7 ? because as some people say i7 is more for gaming and AMD Processor more for Work

[@claytrader]

Its really up to personal preference. I wouldn't say that one is designed for on thing and the other another though. They are both solid systems. Typically intel does have the edge in performance and can be a bit more stable.

[@chriskhan1437]

Thanks for posting this. How does your system compare to the ones I can buy premed on ebay? Your pre is attractive, but how much speed and memory am I getting?

[@claytrader]

We did a computer comparison here that you an check out (claytrader.com/blog/trading-computer-comparison/). The speed will be dictated by the processor, you can check out the links the in description of this video to find out more about the processor and memory.

[@chriskhan1437]

ClayTrader thanks for the response. how much would this machine be premade if I was to buy it from an online seller?

[@claytrader]

Chris, that is going to vary from company to company. But i would guess somewhere in the $1000-15000 range without any monitors or other peripherals.

[@2454014]

2 cpu slots would be even more ideal.

[@itnate129]

Yes it would! but then you have to start buying server boards and that gets real expensive and really would be overkill for a trading PC.

[@godless-greg]

I have an old HP Proliant 360 G5 Server laying around. 2 x Xeon @ 3.0GHz, 32GB PC2-5300 Fully Buffered DIMMs (DDR2-667). Currently has 6x 36GB SAS HDD's (though I'm thinking of throwing in 1 (or 2 for RAID 1) SSD's and just use the rest for backups). I planned on adding a Single Slot PCI-X GPU to run 3 monitors and the onboard VGA to run 1 for simple web brower and maybe video playback. Would that be a good "starter" option?

[@itnate129]

Absolutely, those Xeon's should tear through any charting platform/broker. The only thing is sometimes the onboard VGA port gets disable with the addition of a video card so keep that in mind.

[@godless-greg]

Nate Hovinga I figured as much after VGA wasn't working. :( That's why I'm now running a x16 and x8 PCIe Card. Each will run 2 Displays. Basically 2 for Platform, 1 For Web, chat, etc... the 4th will be a VGA for streaming video like Yahoo Finance, Bloomberg, etc. If I get information overload, I can always tone it back.

[@raymarren3696]

nice video looking to build a trading station an new desktop

[@claytrader]

Cool. Hope the video helped.

[@kristypatel6576]

Does the video processor still hold good for 2018? Is there an upgrade to quadro k1200 on similar pricing or I can still use it to build my machine?

[@claytrader]

That card would still work great, but it is a generation old now. I would look at something like the nVidia Quadro P600 - itNate

[@mackenziebarker4863]

Why do you need so much processing power for a trading pc?

[@claytrader]

There can be lots of applications and such running all at once.

[@addij3689]

to make big money, you need to invest big money!! dont cheap out on the computer.

[@claytrader]

While that is true, you can also "overkill" on a computer and spend way too much.

[@afterdark6822]

Dual Dell P4317q's would be nice. lol.

[@claytrader]

Indeed!

[@stokeskeith]

I'm having trouble with the suggested SSD and motherboard as a couple others. I paid my nephew to set this all up and he left me with a mess to deal with. ugh. Anyone figure out this SATA only thing? Im not tech savvy, thought I'd save some money building myself.

[@claytrader]

Keith, we'd be happy to help, what issues are you have with the SATA/SSD? You can always message us via the chat app at claytrader.com as well.

[@stokeskeith]

Thanks Clay, just took it in to have a pro look at it.

[@danh.8725]

Hi, I have HP Elite 8300 small form factor. Kindly if somebody can guide which 2GB 324 display support video card is compatible with my system. The system PSU 240 Watts and it has q77 chipset. Thank you

[@claytrader]

That is really hard to say what is compatible. without more information, youre best bet would be to contact HP directly as they should know exactly what video expansion ports your computer has, once you know that you can pick out a compatible video card.

[@homesinsiennacom]

I have tone like this wondering same thing?

[@hellslayer9638]

get the 6950x it works for me with 6 monitors runing at 1440p

[@claytrader]

Thanks for your thoughts.

[@kingmike40]

I wish I could use Clay's money to go computer shopping. Ha Ha!!

[@claytrader]

As long as I can then use your money ;-)

[@kurtwhite2745]

....You need to add cooling for the CPU and the case.....might be $100-$200 more to the cost.

[@claytrader]

Thanks for feedback.

[@gsandhu1549]

i need this pc build by you and set up by you pls reply

[@claytrader]

claytrader.com

[@gsandhu1549]

please reply , i need your help to build and set up pc. from you, i am NOT tech savi guy, i need your help , willing to pay for your service thanks

[@claytrader]

claytrader.com

[@nancyweaver6781]

Frustrating...motherboard and storage noted here are no more on Amazon. Plus latest comments from tech guys argue some of the components listed are inappropriate. Like I said, frustrating.

[@claytrader]

What latest comments? I hope you're not referring to strangers posting in the comment section here on KZbin.

[@roxyqueen5076]

Clay have you heard of NEW EGG??

[@claytrader]

Yes. "Chezz" (cohost of our podcast) used to work for them actually.

[@roxyqueen5076]

Thats funny That link you sent..I saw that one already too..Ha HA

[@roxyqueen5076]

Oh wowie!! Cool!! You worked at new egg?? Then you really know about computers!! Thats great!! Hey Nate I am in the beginning of ordering my computer.. I want to build a work station..(trading station) nothing too fancy but I have a couple of questions for ya.. will it be alright if I emailed them to you?

[@DA33_718]

i never build micro atx.. atx all day with options.

[@afterdark6822]

Specs don't need to be high level for a trading system.

[@claytrader]

I agree. You don't want to overkill, but you also don't want a piece of crap.

[@goldenbrettfx90]

You're a clueless moron. Lol

[@devoywilliams5549]

or just grab a dell xps or similar laptop and two monitors, mouse and keyboard.

[@claytrader]

Always a choice.

[@stroggwars]

ok i'm on AMD FX

[@claytrader]

Nice

[@thiagobanker]

you forgot the cooler!

[@itnate129]

I typically just use the build in heatsink/fan that comes with the CPU.

[@itnate129]

Not sure if the CPU i liked had a cooler or not, if not then just find a version that does. Or pick up one here: amzn.to/2kAXRgc