CLEAN MAMA vs FLYLADY cleaning routines

[@daniellahowe5382]

As someone with ADHD the fly lady system is great because executive dysfunction is real and sometimes I need an extremely detailed and structured list of things to do or my brain literally won’t let me do ANYTHING.

[@MinimalistHome]

Isn't it funny, some people with ADHD can't handle that level of detail, yet others thrive on it

[@rachaecos]

Second this as another person with ADHD, I was worried going in that it would be another impossible to maintain neurotypical routine but it's been really freeing.

[@nikkifatiga433]

I agree with this. I have ADHD and routine is everything. The more detailed the better. It’s almost like I have to have something to procrastinate to develop stress focus lol. So the more details somehow helps me get more done.

[@AT-ox9np]

Same!!

[@HarmonyWallender]

I could see agreeing with this - but my brain also shuts down if things are overly complex. I will look at the list here.

[@heyitslizzybee]

Flylady results in a clean house with far less time cleaning per day. It looks more chaotic on paper because it's so structured but in practice it *feels* so easy and sustainable. It's great for people who have depression, or any other mental illness, ADHD, or even just problems with perfectionism. It's also ideal for people with a busier schedule.

[@MinimalistHome]

That’s awesome!

[@heyitslizzybee]

@@MinimalistHome I like the simplicity of clean mama but its not for lazy people like me lol it lets me procrastinate in a way. Thanks for the wonderful video.

[@MrJen3456]

The difference is Flylady is very generous with her information, allows others such as Diane from Denmark, Secret Slob, etc to teach the system publicly and openly and even add their own spin, unlike the Clean Mama lady. Clean mama comes off as very impersonal and very guarded with her system. No feedback or criticism of any sort is allowed. Anyway, Flylady wins in my book and I also work crazy hours, have kids in sports and pets etc..Flylady's routines and system wins every time.

[@MinimalistHome]

That is good to know. Thanks for sharing!

[@mrsupchurch2987]

Clean Mama used to have a great FB group, but some people got nasty and she completely shut it down. Such a shame because I learned so many cleaning tips there!

[@Beepbopboop19]

Agree! This is why I've bought things from Flylady, specifically because she's so open with the system, I'm forever grateful for that.

[@YeshuaKingMessiah]

Preach it!

[@amianderson8866]

@@Beepbopboop19 I bought her cleaning supplies too. They are great quality & work.

[@cirelo1896]

I would say that flylady is especially helpful for anyone who has any kind of dysfuntional background or depression because she is very geared towards overcoming mental handicaps and her "flywashing" emails are so good for if you need that head game help. I was raised in an alcoholic home with a lot of disorder and chaos and that was really hard for me to face and overcome as an adult but flylady's system just helps keep me chugging along.

[@MinimalistHome]

That's awesome! I do think Marla is super sweet. I'm so glad that her emails help you!

[@yoojinia]

So well said observation 👏 thank you. ...flylady helped me a lot as well. When someone articulates their experiences, it really helps others people...because I feel understood and other people went through similar issues and we are not alone.

[@Maiden_Warrior_Crone]

This is really helpful. Thank you!

[@ivacukic]

I don't do anything else from the flylady system but the zone cleaning is an absolute game changer for me. Actually the idea that I can clean for 15 minutes (or 5, or 2) and then stop, even if the job is not fully done, is an absolute game changer for me. My house has never been cleaner and I never felt less burdened by housework. Just adapt any system you like and take from it what works for you and leave the rest!

[@MinimalistHome]

Thanks great Iva! I love your attitude! yes, it is SO nice to have the ability to stop and be done!

[@suem6004]

So many ideas about FlyLady come from those who never read the original book. She never said to turtle wax the sink. An urban myth. I do wish people read the system before commenting on it. Yes, the website is horrible but the book makes it easy. Her ‘printables’ in there. Started FlyLady before Google and KZbin. Yes, when we had to drive to book stores and buy and read books. lol. Diane in Denmark did a great job explaining the zones. Secret Slob has taken another step further. Imagine spending 15 minutes a day per zone. People have the weird idea that you spend hours and hours completing task lists. Nope. 15 minutes per day is the FlyLady system. And I did turn my trashed home into a manageable place and the resentment towards other family members diminished. Housework got done during the week so we actually had weekends off to enjoy family time.

[@MinimalistHome]

Yes, I agree. People need to spend just a little time in each zone for sure. This is where she mentions the Car Wax (sorry, not turtle) www.flylady.net/d/getting-started/flying-lessons/shine-sink/

[@sheilatorres1908]

I agree that 15 minutes per zone is all that’s required besides your daily routines. Only once a week you spend one full hour doing your house blessing. Check out Fly Lady Kat. She explains Fly Lady very simply.

[@rachaelerin1]

@@MinimalistHome “If you still don’t like the way it looks, then you can try some car wax. Just know in your heart that you have cleaned it very well now, and it doesn’t have to be perfect. Our perfectionism is what got us in this situation in the first place!” Not to split hairs but that doesn’t really sound like she is telling you that you need to wax the sink. She offers it as an option if you like but also sort of steers you away from it…

[@wendypena4593]

Thank you, this was very insightful

[@kuhekaizen3426]

Thank you, i will get the book finally bec of your comment. In a store 😉 its a hard klick live ladies, but together we can do it. I love fly lady Vibe, her openness, she really wants to make it better and she will leave a legacy behind, a better world, not acknowledged enough that lady

[@germanncreekfarm62]

The FlyLady never uses turtle wax. She always uses glass cleaner for her sink. Marla really is a great guru for those of us who grew up in complete dysfunction or with very controlling parents who never taught us how to organize. I have the app and I'm not kidding when I say the FlyLady system changed my entire family's life. I have cooked all 3 meals every day since 2020, and always struggled to stay on top of dishes. I needed structure badly and I can't say enough how much it has helped me get my life in order. Plus, Marla is quite personable and her live streams are so encouraging.

[@MinimalistHome]

It's funny, I get this comment a lot, but Marla does recommend turtle wax on her website in the babsteps section (step 1 if I remember correctly). Apparently it works well, I just haven't tried it.

[@wendyj.3858]

I prefer Flylady. It's the only system that's helped me in the long run. You don't have to be so perfect about it, relax, if it doesn't get done...do it the next time you're in the zone. To me, that calms my anxiety about everything. Flylady herself is like a mother to me! She's such a kind hearted sweet person. I never do anything straight when I get up. I take time for coffee, Bible and praying, that comes first for me. Then once I wake up that's when I do the morning routine. Like I said, it's only as difficult as you want to make it.

[@MinimalistHome]

Yes, Marla does seem very sweet. Definitely can be as simple or as complicated as a person wants 😀

[@mamamel5789]

You and I are alike in our morning routine. I differ only I throw the wash in on way to coffee. Then flutter in the kitchen waiting on the first cup. Then bible coffee me and Jesus we start things off and get to running

[@anner4598]

I really have been most helped by Dana K. White, A Slob Comes Clean. Her book, How to Manage Your Home Without Losing Your Mind, has the kind of no nonsense advice an easily distractable person like myself can put to use. Flylady shines the sink, Dana emphasizes keeping up with the dishes. Most cleaning gurus never mention doing dishes. It's my most hated chore and I need that kick in the butt to keep facing them day after day after day...

[@MinimalistHome]

Oh absolutely! if the kitchen is a mess, the whole house feels messy!

[@eimeartheirishstitcher]

I just finished that book this weekend! It hasn't been long but simple things like keeping on top of so dishes helps so much!!

[@mindymudge7247]

Absolutely along with minimal mom and clutter bug!

[@anner4598]

@Mindy Mudge Yes! I joined their Take Your House Back program. It's great!

[@BeautifulTouches]

Yep, I'm a fan of Dana too...I had my trio of "minimalists" - Dana, Dawn, and Cas of Clutterbug. Now I have to add Robin to my daily "fix".

[@qtluvBilly3]

I'm familiar with both systems, and I think they are very much alike. The daily 5 tasks of CM is like the daily routines of FlyLady. The weekly tasks of CM is like the Weekly Home Blessing just broken down on different days (which FlyLady says to break it down throughout the week if that works better.) The rotating tasks of CM is like the detailed zone cleaning of FlyLady. The extensive sink cleaning FLyLady recommends is only a one time thing and then you just wipe it out from then on. I think her book Sink Reflections, is very helpful. I discovered her in 2002. I like CM too, but FlyLady is my first system I implemented. It was after awhile I realized they are more alike than not. I have all the books of both. It's always fun learning about systems. 😊

[@MinimalistHome]

Oh that's awesome! Yes, I really love the routines. They are so helpful! I do like FlyLady's foundations for sure, but CM's systems tend to work better for me.

[@nancylanderson8012]

I started with Flylady and got my house in order. Then I did Marie Kondo's approach to decluttering. I watched many of the other decluttering/organizing/cleaning influencers and have taken something from all of them. I do believe we are all evolving and our routines evolve also. Cleaning is different when you have small kids at home vs. being retired. Cleaning depends on disposable money, too. So, take what you like from different ideas and leave the rest behind. Make it your own.

[@MinimalistHome]

Yes! You need to just do what works for you. That's why I do a hybrid system

[@trixieknits]

Ever since I adopted dry the sink after use it’s been lovely. Not the kitchen sinks but the bathroom sinks. My daughter learned it in a convent and I took it one step further. I no if the Norwex cloths. I keep one enviro cloth in every bathroom and everyone dries the sink after use. It’s always clean!!! I no longer spend all day Saturday cleaning bathrooms. We also renovated our home and now last person out of the shower dries the shower. Always clean!! It’s fabulous. Two min spent on this chore daily leaves hours one day a week.

[@MinimalistHome]

Ooooooh, I LOOOOOOOVE this!! 🤍🤍🤍

[@jd2921]

OMG!!! I have followed Fly Lady for a few years now and can really see huge differences as long as I follow the routines. But I found and watched this video today and went right over to Clean Mama website to check it out. And 😳! Everything I clicked on bought up another ad to buy something!! Even when I didn't click on anything but was simply trying to read something, I just kept seeing more ads to buy this for cleaning floors or that to make your bed and this pail or that bin, etc. Honestly I was just trying to look at an example of the cleaning guide to see if I thought it may be better but as of yet I couldn't see it. Felt like I was being chased by ads. Now the actual routines may be very good if I ever decide to be brave enough to go back and try again. For now, I will stick wirh Fly Lady. Thanks anyway for your thoughts on the subject.

[@MinimalistHome]

Oooh, that's interesting! I've never had the experience. I could see how that would be off-putting. I mostly use the books.

[@amytarvin2776]

I had the same thing with all the ads! Bombardment!😟. If you are interested, try your library. Keep FLYing!♥️

[@JimzAuto]

Websites: Clean Mama ‘requires’ signing up for info, flylady allows new visitors to ‘poke around’. I agree, the clean mama pop ups (even on a first visit) are rather annoying.

[@retired_early]

Same exact experience.

[@melindarosestudios]

Flylady seems to me to be a sales person too anymore and I don’t like her political dialogues. They all have something to sell. I do like her routines though.

[@jessica-leagray6692]

the one thing I have kept with me over the years after trying FLYlady was the 20min clean. Start in say the kitchen for 20 min then stop go to another room for 20 then stop and back to the kitchen if need be for 20min and then stop completely for 20 min. although I generally don't do the full hour anymore when I was first learning how to better maintain my home this was the least overwhelming start

[@MinimalistHome]

Yes Jessica-Lea! I love this technique too!

[@iriswelch3553]

Since finding Diane, I do a simplified version of Fly lady routines (no printables). It helps me to only focus on one task a day (like the car) and on one zone per week. The house is always presentable, which is a good thing as we had two neighbors stop by unexpectedly yesterday!

[@MinimalistHome]

Yes!! I love that you can have people drop by and it's not an issue! yay! Love Diane!

[@bluebellflamesx]

This is so funny because when I was living with roommates in my teens and feeling overwhelmed the fly lady was one of the ONLY resources on the internet (mid-2000s around 2007). I never really stuck with her schedules but the "clean your sink" before you sleep is still important to me. It's so helpful in the morning when you're rushing to make a cup of tea or cook something to have a clear sink. I don't use turtle wax but you'll often find me buffing it dry to remove mineral watermarks :).

[@MinimalistHome]

I agree that the sink being clean is so lovely Janet! Thanks for the message, and we have lots of minerals too, so I have to wipe them up as well

[@josielawrence1970]

I try to keep it in mind that I can do 2-minute jobs WHILE I TALK ON THE TELEPHONE. The sink is one. Wiping down the front of the refrigerator is another.

[@raincitywoman]

I love Becky (CleanMama). I have bought so many of her products, and they hold up so well. She is also really responsive if you need to send her an email to clarify something. People say her routine is hard, but I feel it is more straightforward. My house stays clean and I have been following her system for almost 3 years now.

[@MinimalistHome]

Ooooh, good to know about the products' quality! I do really like her stuff. So awesome! I definitely think the system is pretty simple.

[@IMChrysalis]

P.S. Just FYI, I have been working the Flylady system for 2 years off and on... NOWHERE has it been said on the site to use Turtle wax on your sink! It's Windex glass cleaner, just for the shine when you're done, and it is, as always, your option... Marla always advocates working along with her suggestions to establish a pattern of working, and tweaking when necessary it to make it suit your own situation. That's the nice thing about both of these systems; they are adaptable! The thing I like about Flylady is that zone cleaning list? It has stuff on it that I tend to forget otherwise! And I LOVE her tools!

[@MinimalistHome]

You are absolutely right! She mentions car wax, not turtle wax 🤦🏻‍♀️ in her Sink Cleaning Post. I do love her too. She is a great lady and has lots of good advice. I do tend to learn towards Clean Mama right now, but still use lots of Marla's ideas

[@melindaanne6036]

Sarcasm

[@MegF142857]

Agree. Don't think this review properly explained Flylady nor her philosophy.

[@SamanthaBellerson]

To be fair, I did take the advice and wax my sink many years ago when I did her system. It actually has a purpose. It keeps the sink very clean. No water stains, and gunk easily rinses away. I actually think it is worth doing.

[@adrenaline328]

I’ve never noticed this in her materials, but mainly I’ve been going off Diane in Denmark and some of the Secret Slob. It makes me want to wax my sink. It makes me happy when it’s shiny and I don’t like the water spots! Alas I don’t have any car wax, lol.

[@mamasaidno1749]

I tried Flylady back in 2002, but it didn't work for me, because I didn't know back then that I have ADHD, so I couldn't just do the tasks as she said to. Instead I jumped in and did EVERYTHING. I wore myself out. I have tried several times to start it again, same thing happened. Then last year I found The Secret Slob channel, and she had broken the system into a form that I could understand. Then in December of last year, at the age of 63, I learned that I have ADHD. That was a game changer, because I finally understood why systems never worked before. Now I use a combination of systems, and I have made phenomenal progress. Yes,I still have times when I 'hit a brick wall' and lose ground, but I have enough routines in place to prevent my losing ground. I will check out Clean Mama to see if I can find more tools to help me with my homemaking. Great video, thanks!

[@MinimalistHome]

Awesome! It's nice to have that information about yourself to get how you should approach things like cleaning and systems. I really enjoy clean mama and Secret Slob!

[@IMChrysalis]

I was a Sidetracked Home Executive back in the day, and it's a great system but every time my schedule changed, it was like starting over... so I started revamping it to suit my lifestyle better, and then found Flylady--the same thing I was working on, only Marla got there first!-- a definite step in a simpler direction, with less "moving parts" and much more adaptable to different scenarios. I do appreciate seeing how other systems can be adapted as well, to make my own days work better for me, so I really enjoyed your comparison video. Thanks!

[@MinimalistHome]

You're welcome! Thanks for watching! Sounds like you are a smart cookie like marla too!

[@rustysz1064]

I remember SHE. They were a help to me at the time but required a lot of prep to start.

[@annelumsden5775]

I too was overwhelmed by the fly lady site. I arranged word documents of the daily tasks, one page for each week and keep them to hand. It just makes it easier for me. My mother was in a state of depression for many years so I never saw or learned a cleaning routine. You are so right about phases of our lives. I started gently Swedish death cleaning last year, I love it but found my kids (in their 30's) don't like me talking about death cleaning, after I assured them I was not ill they were fine.

[@angelique00angelique]

I’ve never heard of clean mamma but now I’ll check it out! I would have started the fly lady years ago but every time I went to her website I didn’t understand anything. It soooo overwhelming! I now have been trying The Secret Slobs way of doing it. I didn’t even understand how fly lady worked until the Secret Slobs videos. Thanks for this video!

[@MinimalistHome]

Yes, I agree Angelique! I had to use Diane in Denmark to understand flylady too! Thanks for watching!

[@lindamears273]

Absolutely love the fly ladies. They have changed my life . Marla , Diane, and steph the secret slob.

[@MinimalistHome]

That’s awesome!!

[@lauried9646]

I love “Sink Reflections”!! It was life changing for me.

[@MinimalistHome]

I'm going to have to read that book!

[@evapoole4514]

I love ‘Diane in Denmark’ too! 💯🙌

[@MinimalistHome]

Isn't she the cutest Eva!! Thanks for watching!

[@MustardSeedish]

I loved the Flylady system for nearly 20 years but I really struggled getting the zones done. I found the Clean Mama system by accident by checking out her book from the library. Deep cleaning one room a month allows so much more freedom for me.

[@MinimalistHome]

Yes, I find I jive with a lot of Clean Mama things too!

[@Rosannasfriend]

You’re the person who has explained the Flylady System the best to me, other than the research I did on my own. You fill in some gaps that didn’t stick out to me before that I didn’t understand before. For some reason, the way that you speak, captures me more than the other ladies who talk about this.

[@MinimalistHome]

Thanks so much! ❤️🙏🏼

[@korab.23]

I feel like if FlyLady hired a UI and graphic arts team to simplify and streamline, there would be a huge spike in interest. Just like you, I can't handle the visual overwhelm. Bit her system is amazing and helps so much with the overwhelm like a good friend or sweet aunt giving you a list.

[@MinimalistHome]

I agree with you about alllll of that Kora

[@judyismsbyjudy3207]

Flylady started from the Slob Sisters index card cleaning system and made it work better. I tried the SS before 2000, found Flylady in 2000 and 23 years later it helps me with my ADHD. I watch plenty of different people like you and awkward Mom. I always revert back to Flylady. I get great ideas though and watch them when I am doing my Flylady system. Flylady is even carrying me through with a broken leg. ❤

[@MinimalistHome]

Flylady for the win!

[@muwgrad1987]

Thank you for this content, and I'm a new subscriber! I have FlyLady habits that I have kept for 20 years -- clean sink, made beds, etc. The rest of the house may be a wreck, LOL, but those two things I always do!

[@MinimalistHome]

Good habits are awesome Annie! Good for you!

[@n.sh.42]

Full time job, and 2 kids. Wanna take care of their school, sport, art (piano), healthy eating, healthy mind, AND having we'll organized, clean house, sounds like magic but possible if find and follow "routines". I grow up with a mom obsessed with extreme cleaning. Now I have learned, that way of living is not very practical. The key is to be balanced, and don't go for PERFECTION.

[@MinimalistHome]

Absolutely love this! Yes, perfection is toxic

[@rustysz1064]

"Progress not perfection." ....The Secret Slob

[@kristy3380]

Being a person with ADD structure structure and more structure is exactly what I need in order to get things done. For that reason I LOVE the FlyLady app, it gives me a great sense of accomplishment when I get to check off each box and that makes all the difference to me.

[@MinimalistHome]

Thanks Kristy! I agree

[@allisonc9645]

YES! Totally agree about the fly lady website - way too much going on there. And I signed up for the emails and whoa..... WAY TOO MANY! I do follow the flylady system but I also do it the Diane in Denmark way.

[@MinimalistHome]

OMG, yes! I love Diane in Denmark Allison!

[@ModernLady]

Hehe. I wax my sink. And my shower. Because it makes so the dirt don’t stick. I got the idea from car detailing.

[@MinimalistHome]

I've heard this actually works really well!!! Good to hear it works for you too!

[@kristinebrowne2724]

I'm a very structured person. (thank you military!) I really got off track of cleaning and organizing. So I found the Flylady a few years back, changed my world! I have my own set up now and I must say my home, life is back on track and clean. I did move and am still getting life in order from that, but all in all everything is good. I have watched the videos that you mentioned and they are very right on and helpful also. Thanks

[@MinimalistHome]

I'm so glad to read that Kristine! It is SO handy having a cleaning routine! Thanks for watching!

[@gwenstone9685]

Glad you showed up in the feed today. Newly retired and new to KZbin. I’ve never heard of this before and enjoyed the breakdown of the two. Looking forward to seeing more of your videos.

[@MinimalistHome]

Awesome! Thanks Gwen! I appreciate your kind comment!

[@luckycharmz98230]

Omg I can’t thank you enough for this video. You know that term “late bloomer” , well that term was created because of me lol. Growing up, my mother, single mother, was in to drugs and alcohol mixed with undiagnosed mental illness,didn’t have the tools to teach me anything about adulting. Absolutely nothing..no cooking (except me opening a can of peas or something and eating that), budgeting was .... you can only guess, and house keeping that was non existent. So here I am at 46 years old learning adulting things. I am trying to find a cleaning routine that fits in with my life is a challenge when you don’t have the basic tools, work nursing shift work with some days ending up 16 hours. I know I need some structure, my cleaning routine always has me starting some where, but then I will walk in to another room to put something away... my add takes over and I start another room or project so my house keeping ends with a bunch of started cleaning and frustration/ tears, and Ben and Jerry. I don’t even know where or when to start. But this comparison gave me, not just hope or a light at the end of the tunnel... but relief beyond words. To hear that you use clean mama but add in some of the Fly lady was just what I needed. I was so frustrated with the idea of one or the other when both have some amazing tools to keep a home and be organized. I almost gave up hope because the structure of fly lady is what I need but my life doesn’t allow the routine that she does. After working 16 hours, I am exhausted.not to mention sometimes I have 8 hours between shifts and may have another 16 hour day following. So to say this video is a god send, well that is an understatement. I know there is a ton of the comparison videos of the two.... but the way you did this one, resonated with me and finally gave me the ability to just take a deep breath. I don’t have little ones,I’m a single empty nester. And most videos are married with little ones that I could not relate to. Thank you so much for doing this video, and giving me hope. I just may be adulting in no time, and being a rockstar at it

[@MinimalistHome]

Hey Jessica, I am so glad that this video helped you figure out how to combine the two systems. It is funny the things that we suddenly realize we don't know and then try to figure out deep into adulthood. On busy days, I just try to get the five easiest things done! Clean Mama certainly has simplified things, but some flylady things are just too great not to include!

[@kimberlyeakin761]

You got this!!! ❤️

[@sibongilethwala7080]

Check out nursemomflybaby. I really struggle with structure as a shift worker. I need it but can't stick to it.

[@lydiazimmerman4328]

Have you heard of Flylady Kat? She does videos on a simplified version of flylady and also does mentoring for those who need more help getting started. I really find it helpful to have someone break it down and explain it in detail which is what Kat does.

[@dinky..]

Sounds like Clean Mama might be for me! I looked into FlyLady last year and just felt overwhelmed! Some great ideas but too structured and detailed more me. Loved this video! You're so warm and lovely 💕

[@MinimalistHome]

Thank you so much! Yes, I find the CM system works a bit more for me too

[@lilybean1000]

After cleaning my home for 30 + years I discovered Clean Mama. It changed my life, literally. I use bits and pieces from Fly Lady also.

[@MinimalistHome]

That's awesome!! I'm happy to hear that Beth!

[@kimtaylor9096]

Diane in Denmark and The Secret Slob are great. S.S. points out how simple and flexible Flylady can be. It starts with Baby Steps, simple routines, simple habits. ☺️

[@josielawrence1970]

I have some rules I developed for myself:: 1. Don’t put it down, put it away 2. Do two things at once (a load of laundry while you dust the furniture) 3. The RULE OF ONE-every day, spray down and wipe one door of your kitchen cabinet, clean off one shelf in your refrigerator 4. Scan a room before leaving and grab anything that doesn’t belong there. Put it away. By doing these things, it makes it easier when it is time to do an actual cleaning. MAKE sure your kids understand #1. They can help.

[@Shuna2011]

“Don’t put it down, put it away.” I hear my mother’s voice! In fact, as I cared for my Mum as she sank into dementia, I would gently remind her of it with “Do you remember when you used to say to me…….?”

[@MinimalistHome]

SUCH GREAT ADVICE JOSIE! Thanks!! I pretty much do all of this myself, but the family certainly needs the reminder!!

[@veragiles981]

Flylady website is ghastly! It is utterly confusing and I had no idea where I was supposed to be looking. Steph, however, of Secret Slob fame, is fantastic. So clear and concise and has whittled everything down to make it easy to use. Clean Mamma sounded good though, especially if your week is never the same like yours and mine!

[@MinimalistHome]

Yes! Love my buddy Steph, and Clean Mama is great for flexibility!

[@claudiagutierrez7218]

I subscribed to Fly Lady and unsubscribed in the same day. Received way too many emails, like 12 in the first 3 hours. It was ridiculous. Most of them were soliciting to buy products. I do subscribe to Clean Mama. My favorite is Get Organized Now with Maria Gracia.

[@laurenreese6462]

@@claudiagutierrez7218 yes for some reason she insists digital clutter isn't a thing...despite it affecting my brain in exactly the same way. Can't imagine why.

[@1Melody1963]

Yours is probably the best comparison I have seen of these two. As a Fly Lady fan for years, I have tailored that system to work well for me. Had never heard of Clean Mama, but after watching your vid I know to stay with Fly Lady. The different task for different days just never works for me. If I decide this week that Tuesday is going to be laundry day, its a guarantee that Monday night, my washing machine will die, lol. Of course I am joking, but seriously, the last time I tried that kind of schedule I planned to do grocery shop on Monday. Unexpected company came so I wound up going to the store three times before Monday. Life happens! Mostly I have learned to try to stay organized and roll with whatever comes.

[@MinimalistHome]

Ooh! Love this message! It is SO true. You really cannot plan all of life, but since I've started these systems, I've never been embarrassed to have company (well, almost never 😊)

[@SarahStar00]

Love this video. I'm just getting started with cleaning routines (thank goodness I found them to help deal with my disaster house) and I prefer the Clean Mama system for just starting out. It's so much simpler and her website is beautiful. I got overwhelmed looking into the FlyLady system. I just want something simple and easy to start and maintain and Clean Mama delivers that.

[@MinimalistHome]

Yes!! I really like her system!

[@malcido]

I love a comparison video where an actual preference is stated. Thank you!!

[@MinimalistHome]

Oh thanks! Yes, some people are a little hesitant

[@laineruscelle292]

I started with Fly Lady and she is very generous with her info, but when starting if you are in huge chaos and have a focus problem it is harder to get started. I learned from Diane in Denmark who's videos really assisted me to put it all in place. Her 31 days of baby steps were very useful! I just found a planner that She's in her Apron has made for following Fly Lady System that makes it more simplified, and she gives the creator the credit for the system but loves planners so created one for ADD or ADHD it is very well done!

[@MinimalistHome]

I think that's great Laine! She seems so sweet. I also LOVE Diane!

[@hsmomga]

I LOVE flylady so much. I bought her book forever ago and she made it so easy for me. I've never tried clean mama but whatever works!

[@MinimalistHome]

Amen sister! Love it

[@beetleblooming]

Never heard of Flylady. I’ve been following Clean Mamma for years. I love how she breaks down to one task a day. Makes it not so overwhelming. It’s surprising how each task doesn’t take long at all when you just focus on that thing.

[@MinimalistHome]

I totally agree! It's pretty amazing how fast things can go!

[@josielawrence1970]

One task a day is a good rule, especially if you are consistent

[@youtubeaccount-yr6hb]

I've never heard of clean mama. My experience with fly lady has been 🥴🤯 😂 I'll have to check it out.

[@MinimalistHome]

Yes! Clean Mama is awesome!!

[@patsypryor9850]

I am so glad this works for so many,it definately has value or I would not read so much about it . However, if you have time for a check list your house is already clean enough. also I realize I am clutter challenged as I have my sister and husband who are also retired and we all have a calendar of medical appointments, also they are life long pigs who never pick up after themselves . They will always get it later, like they did when home with mom. I have finally got them to leave my clean kitchen alone so I can awake to a quiet cup of coffee and my devotionals in peace. (I care for all our pets 2 dogs and 6 cats ,rescues that we never got a home first before coffee, this takes an hour)Minimalism is looking real good, I'll chuck all the stuff and then try flylady routine ,as soon as I get a minute. Thnx for tossing a drowning woman some tips I can use. Keep up the tutorials and bless us slow students!

[@MinimalistHome]

baby steps Patsy ☺️

[@edwinacaparelli9911]

I'm a cleaner at the moment and I noticed that people struggle with this so bad. Personally I find it works best in my home to just clean things right when they need to be cleaned. I rarely need to clean out my bathroom because we just keep it clean as we use it, my kitchen also. I vacuum once a day in my kitchen in any areas that need it and then I dust sporadically wherever I see it needs that too.

[@MinimalistHome]

I agree! Just don't walk away, clean it now!

[@ff2154]

The problem is when only 1 person has to do it, if your partner is a slob 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@edwinacaparelli9911]

I hear you. The resentment begins to build up when one person is cleaning everything.

[@beverlyomalley6994]

So happy to have stumbled on your site. Empty nester, working part time and renting a small condo. Not too much to cleaning but just need a schedule of something to do everyday and then monthly to keep me on track. Simple and doable. Wanting to become a minimalist as well ever since our 3 bedroom had a flood and it was the people upstairs and all of our stuff got stored and we rented a furnished condo. Pretty soon we’ll have to go thru our items and I’m ready to chuck a lot. Hoping this site and a few others will be helpful.

[@MinimalistHome]

Awesome goals Beverly! Glad to have you here. I really enjoy the minimalism lifestyle now. Still working towards my end goals, but certainly MUCH happier!

[@miyounova]

I would never dust, vacuum and mop on different days. Or at the very least vacuuming and mopping. Dust comes back very quickly and mopping without having vacuumed immediately prior is the best way to end up with "dust sludge". And with tiles, all that ends up in the grout, that's why it always ends up darker, looking dirty...because it is!

[@MinimalistHome]

Yes, it would make total sense to do the whole bathroom at once.

[@miyounova]

@@MinimalistHome That's why I've never understood the appeal of these methods, but I guess in the US you guys must use carpet a lot more. Where I'm from, unless you have wood floors, you usually have tile, so I do the floors all at once. And if I don't have the time, I'll do the kitchen, bathroom and toilet in first priority, cause it gets much dirtier than bedrooms or the living room of course.

[@mosunmolaologunde9777]

@@miyounova you're absolutely right, dusting, vacuuming and moping on different days would never work in my part of the world. I always wondered about that, I just guessed dust isn't an issue for yhem

[@klomax7089]

So happy you popped up in my feed today! I like you already bcuz you look like my bestie 😊 I have followed the FLYLady system for about 3 yrs with a “reset” when we moved into our new home. Unpacking everything wrecked my flow, but I’m slowly getting back to it. Which is why your video is perfect today bcuz I’ve not heard of Clean Mama. I’ll definitely check her out. And I LOVE Diane, she is just adorable 🥰 You got yourself a new Subbie! 👍🏽🙌🏽👍🏽

[@MinimalistHome]

Thanks!! Yes, I love Diane too! Thanks for watching and subbing KLo GroFlo

[@thebeachyfarmhouse6410]

Finally someone compairing to diffrent systems. And would love to see your mix of the two.😍💗

[@MinimalistHome]

Yes! That video is coming! I'm glad you liked this one!

[@KumaSews]

I love both! I’ve read both books and have followed both of them. You are correct in just pulling what works for you. I appreciated the FlyLady detailed tasks. Great when you’re just so overwhelmed you don’t know where to start!!! But once you have that down it’s easier to “relax” into Clean Mama. I love her cleaning recipes and I did buy glass bottles and I love them!!! One in every bathroom, in the kitchen and one in my laundry room! Haha. I have also gifted the books to several younger friends and family members who were just starting out in their own. Thank you for your comparison of them. Bottom line, just start decluttering, establish some sort of routine, and be kind to yourself. No more CHAOS (FlyLady) 🥰

[@MinimalistHome]

I totally agree Kathy! Yes, I like them both too. Sometimes one just work better for others. I do like the recipes as well!

[@3t3rnalstudent]

I'm so glad you came up in my recommended videos. ❤️ I hadn't heard much about Clean Momma but her system sounds a bit more like what would work for me too. Thank you for this excellent comparison & overview of these two.❣️

[@MinimalistHome]

Welcome!

[@aproverbshome173]

I think it depends on the individual. I like the Fly Lady and I'm going to check out Clean Mama to see if I like it never heard of her. Thank you for your candid input.

[@pdxoregon1]

Thank you for this video and the PDF! Very helpful!

[@MinimalistHome]

I'm glad you like it!

[@Ristina81]

Love Diane in Denmark and her starting videos on Fly Lady. I started with the book and would read the chapter and watch Fly Lady Diane. I felt like it was too hard to personalize the app though. Of course I started it when I didn’t have a job and I did well with it till I started school.

[@MinimalistHome]

Yes, it's a bit tough. It's nice when you have Diane to guide you!

[@kristenheuer5676]

As a homeschool mom, I struggle keeping my housework kept up. Many of these systems take a couple hours a day. I don't have an extra couple hours a day to clean. I really need simple and quick.

[@cmbooks2000]

I'm retired. No small children or pets. My husband has passed so it's just me and an adult son with special needs. I have watched half a dozen different KZbin rs on The FLS and it's overwhelming and a bit convoluted for me. As I listen I just want to pull the covers over my head so I can't see what I need to clean. Clean Mama method I think will work better for me because the zones or items to clean make more sense. Thank you so much for this information. Your presentation is perfect!

[@MinimalistHome]

Thank you Cora. I think you might like Clean Mama too. Seems simpler to me

[@elizabethneas50]

I watched this video a couple of days ago. I had never heard Fly Lady talk about Turtle Waxing the sink. Oh My Gosh….I tried it and my sink looks brand new and water just beads up. LOVE. Thank you so much for sharing the tip!

[@MinimalistHome]

haha, that's awesome Elizabeth!

[@s.j.shetler761]

Thank you so much for this video! I've struggled with Flylady for years. I will definitely check out Clean Mama as I am so overwhelmed with Flylady. I like your style and minimalist viewpoint. New subscriber here!

[@MinimalistHome]

Thank you very much! Yes, I do think it's a personal choice that one usually works better than another

[@megangoodall545]

Totally agree about the website difference! Thank you for the comparison. I’ve had a hard time understanding the difference, this helped.

[@MinimalistHome]

Oh that's great Megan! I'm glad you liked the video! Yes, I definitely see some pros and cons of both, but tend to lean towards CM

[@BeautifulTouches]

I've been a follower of Fly Lady for years, but you hit the nail on the head. Her site is cluttered, and if you sign up for her notifications, your inbox will be bombarded. I will say, I somehow missed her suggestion to Turtle Wax the sink. I had to try it after you mentioning it. It works WONDERS. Water just beads up and can be wiped with a paper towel, and my sink sparkles all the time. So glad I found your site. I'll be looking into Clean Mamma right away.

[@MinimalistHome]

I bet it works wonders! She just mentions it on her website for day 1. I do love a clean sink!

[@dazeerae]

I will have to check out Clean Mama. I have done FlyLady off and on for years, but never stuck with the detail cleaning. I developed my own system of rooms/tasks by the day, & I’m surprised to see how many of Clean Mama’s days align with mine: Mon - bathrooms, Tue - bedrooms, Wed - living room, Thur - floors, Fri - kitchen/desk, Sat - laundry & bedding, Sun - self care. I spend about 15 min a day on my daily task in addition to daily routines of bed, dishes, & laundry. When I am home for the summers, I add in daily 15 min declutter, 15 min tidy, and 15 min of any other home care task. I am trying to get back to taking good care of my home after giving up for a few years.

[@MinimalistHome]

That’s great Sheena! I love when people can personalize things

[@compusword8006]

Thanks for making this video. I sometimes follow Flylady, but did not know Clean Mama existed. Will check it out.

[@MinimalistHome]

Yes, it's great to combine them and do what works for you

[@jkalb1744]

I think flylady actually came from sidetracked home executives

[@MinimalistHome]

Yes, I think someone else told me that too! Very neat.

[@chanda-aime6388]

Yup! I started with them a billion years ago lol

[@d.w.5541]

Thank you! I have given up on FlyLady, because it never took me under two and a half hours to get through all tasks of a day, and that was simply too much for me. I didn‘t know about other routines. Now I‘m thrilled to try something else out, because on my own I‘m simply lost.

[@MinimalistHome]

You should definitely look into Clean Mama then DW. I would say her's seems simpler to me

[@d.w.5541]

@@MinimalistHome I did, and it‘s going fine so far! 😃👍🏻👍🏻❤️

[@hailey7596]

Tbh as a stay at home mom who struggled with PPD on top of my bipolar disorder the fly lady system didn't just help me move past the anxiety and overwhelming feeling of keeping my environment conducive to a happy and functional household, but it helped me out of my PPD and helped me to enjoy life as a whole. I am an individual that needs stringent routine and structure and the fly lady system gave that to me. I tweaked it a little to accommodate my family's routines, but the flexibility and forgiveness of the system makes it really reliable and helpful.

[@MinimalistHome]

I'm so glad that you customized it to work Hailey! Awesome!

[@abisagvarela151]

Thank you to mine mami for teaching me how to keep a clean house,always finish a task and you have chore to do every day .

[@MinimalistHome]

Oooh! I love this! Your mami was very smart!

[@rosemarydelaney5775]

Great video. I like the flylady but I find her too rigid. But I do love shining your sink. I also find that I much rather watch the video from people who follow flylady than Marla, and I love Diana. Thank you for comparison will take a deep dive.

[@MinimalistHome]

Thanks Rosemary!! I always like your comments! I like shining the sink for sure. Don't always feel like it, but I sure do love the results! It's a shame that Marla hasn't simplified her website and videos a bit.

[@tokisulli1737]

I've definitely incorporated Flylady's morning and evening routines but, as a teacher who works long hours, I always felt bad not being able to keep up with the daily tasks and zones during the week. then I spend Saturday cleaning and Sunday lesson planning/ grading.

[@debbielowery877]

Mm. Mmmmm

[@rustysz1064]

Have you watched The Secret Slob? She does her own version of the Flylady with handy free PDF sheets to help you organize your cleaning routines the way you want them. She's also a fan and a friend of Diane from Denmark. Love watching her videos. She's realistic but positive.

[@MinimalistHome]

Hey Rusty! Yes, I have watched Steph! She's great!

[@rebeccajeffrey2842]

Thank you, I needed a breakdown like this. My husband and I run a business out of our home so sometimes our house gets neglected and I don't have the freedom to just stop what we are doing and clean which is how it felt it would need to be with flylady.

[@MinimalistHome]

Awesome! I hope it helps!

[@faithhomeschool2789]

Love the Clean mama method. I love how simple it is. I love the flexibility of her method. I don't like any form of clutter and her system works well with our family. Bathroom Monday for the win. I moved our sheets from Saturday to Friday so our weekend is completely free.

[@MinimalistHome]

I love it for the flexibility too! I actually tend to shuffle things around with my shift working job a bit more, it is so easy

[@AliciaElnagger]

you are using the plum planner! I love that planner and am just about to order my next one. I'd love to see a video of what layout to use and how you structure it!

[@MinimalistHome]

Well you are in luck Alicia! I have a video coming out on September 6 all about it!

[@AliciaElnagger]

@@MinimalistHome thats wonderful! thank you so much! i'm looking forward to it!

[@tracy_in_primary]

I hadn't heard of Clean Mama, but I do like the sound of its simplicity. I used FlyLady about 20 years ago when it was just an email thing. I was a stay-at-home Mum and had time to commit to it. Every time I got an email through the day I would just go and do what it said to do, and that worked so well for a couple of years. Now I work and my kids are adults, so I think the more flexible, simple system sounds much better. I could never make myself come back to Flylady once I started working.

[@MinimalistHome]

Tracy, that sounds like a great plan back in the day when emails where how we did things. I do like Clean Mama, especially when I'm working a lot.

[@nevertoolate8589]

Interesting. New sub! Will check Clean Mama. Fly Lady is just too much. I can’t keep up and end up doing none of it and back to a whole day trying to clean and tidy on my “free” weekend time.

[@MinimalistHome]

Yes! I agree with you. I do love both, but find Clean Mama works better for me

[@favoritevids8869]

My personal favorite is the Passionate Penny Pincher Home planning system. It’s kind of a mix between clean mama and FlyLady. The setup is a lot like clean mama but it’s more structured and detailed like flylady. The hard copy is pricey, but the pdf printable version is cheaper and works with GoodNotes and notability. And it looks very pretty.

[@MinimalistHome]

Oooh! I’ll have to check that out!

[@margueritanorviel7558]

Hi, like your channel and comparisons between the cleaning” systems”. As for flylady- you need to go back to the ORIGINAL cleaning system book, “We changed our lives with 3x5s” written by the “Slob Sisters” who were on Phil Donahue ( that’s how long ago they wrote their book, )which Flylady ( of today) based her systems on. I first read it on an airplane when I was flying for work and had to control myself from laughing out loud!I still use many of their systems- I think they all have to ultimately be modified to your particular lifestyle

[@MinimalistHome]

Oh that's pretty cool! I bet so many of these systems go back centuries in one way or another. I remember Donahue...

[@bethheerten1132]

I have the "Slob Sisters" books from decades ago. It really helped with leaving chores out for my mid/high school boys when I started college in my 30s. To this day my (now grown) son's hate index cards.

[@Mary-el3pi]

I had all the 3x5 cards from the Slop Sisters and loved Flylady! This was fun to remember those days!

[@judithscanlon9024]

agreed - the slob sisters are really the best & deserve a comeback!

[@kathycooper8449]

Pam Young and Peggy Jones were the original and the best. Sidetracked Home Executives books were brilliant. Marla has given them credit for being the basis of her system.

[@Vanessinya86]

Hi! Have you filmed the video you mention at the end? The one where you explain how you blend this two methods? Thankyou

[@lindadowling423]

Thank you so much for this video. I have been looking for something that helps me get control of my house. I use to like the FlyLady until I stumbled on her website. Oh.. that is just way to much... It just to much to soon. For something like myself, who battles severe depression and anxiety - her website just elevates it all. I will find a happy medium one day - perhaps taking a little here and a little there.

[@MinimalistHome]

There you go Linda. You will figure it out!

[@sewcraftymarigold5556]

I used to follow a strict cleaning routine but with the way my life is. I just clean what feels easiest for me each day because each day is not the same when taking care an adult who cannot take care of themselves. 😮 I accepted ❤ this change even if there are days I cannot clean.

[@MinimalistHome]

Makes sense! 🙏🏼🩵

[@julieenslin909]

Thanks for the info! Right with you on preferring Clean Mama style. I am going to buy the Go Clean Co guide but now am intrigued about comparison with CM natural recipes! I like idea of structuring own schedule to make it work for you. No way would turtle wax my sink...unless I had a report to write. 😄

[@MinimalistHome]

I had not even thought about procrastination tasks! Yes, that is likely the only way I would turtle wax my sink too. Good thinking!! Thanks for watching Julie!

[@thesehandsart]

I've reused glass bottles from drinks for my cleaning sprays to avoid buying them lol. Thanks for the info, I love Dianne, can't do the rigid routine but love some of ther is behind them. Great overview!

[@MinimalistHome]

Thank you! I really do love Diane too! I'm more flexible with my cleaning routine too

[@kimboleighh]

I loved this video! Have you looked into the Sidetracked Home Executives system? I think it is what Flylady based her system loosely off of! The book was written in the 80s or 90s and routines are made in an index card system!

[@MinimalistHome]

Yes, that's what I've heard! I'm going to have to look into that! Thanks for watching ☺️

[@thelighthouse1604]

I cleaned my sink really well, worked on second kombucha, started cloths, and dishwasher..... Now I'm watching your video. My sink is 75% percent clean.

[@MinimalistHome]

Yes!! Nice job!

[@MissVasques]

Thanks for that quick walk-through, heard of Fly lady before not the other. As for Turtle waxing I found when treat a build-up spot on top of the sink something else that shine your sink. Hob-cleaner for those hob-stove is a miracle cleaner for greasy areas in general like your oven including the glass. Turns out it shines the sink too, Even when thouroughly rinsing & wiping it off. Just pour the liquid, swipe with a light sponge no elbow-grease. Rinse and dry off. Voilà!

[@MinimalistHome]

Oooh! Thanks so much! Great tip!

[@sarahharris7563]

I’d never heard of Clean Mama but I think I like her style. My mom taught me well and I’m a perfectionist, so I have a routine but I’m always looking to be more efficient. (I’m also not on Insta so I love your Go Clean Go videos!)

[@MinimalistHome]

Oh awesome Sarah! Glad that you like the videos. Clean mama is pretty good! Thanks for watching!

[@sherriefehring8963]

When someone is depressed cleaning your sink will really help your mind and makes you feel better

[@MinimalistHome]

I believe it! I like when mine is clean

[@angelajean65]

For ADHD people who have become overwhelmed, I think Fly Lady is better for me.

[@MinimalistHome]

I bet it is! I have two kids with ADHD and I could see that the structure of FlyLady is probably better.

[@veronicamullins9954]

Agree

[@soniakabir7]

great to know, thank you

[@DaisyReese]

That’s exactly what I was thinking. I need a step by step or I get distracted. Thank you for this confirmation

[@MammaHela]

I was just about to write this. I have both Adhd and asberger, I really Love to know what to do and when. Im from Sweden and have to adjust somethings to work with our culture, laced up shoes inside, nope... 😂 Cant do laundry every Day, not good for the enviroment Etc . But I Love her system

[@nancymadsen6722]

I just found your video, it is great! So well explained. I have also watched Diane in Denmark, Raw raw raw! The zone cleaning is great, but I tend to spend more in our living area and kitchen as they are what needs the most work. I just want to do as little as possible to keep the place clean. I have not heard of Clean Mamma but will check her out. Thank you so much.

[@MinimalistHome]

Absolutely love Diane!! Enjoy looking into Clean Mama! I love her!

[@lindamontoya6924]

Hi Robyn. I really am inspired by your comments and info. Also like your furniture. Can you share where it is from; brands? Thanks

[@MinimalistHome]

Thank you. Our living room furniture is La-z-Boy

[@Karen-jp1ns]

Get the glass spray bottles! I use Young Living's Thieves Cleaner, so I have a glass spray bottle under my bathroom cabinets and a small one at my kitchen sink. They're all I need to clean. I vacuum all my floors, and I only use a Bissell Steam Mop on my hard floors after I vacuum. So simple and no chemicals!

[@MinimalistHome]

Awesome, thanks Karen!!

[@momof2momof2]

To each their own. One has to do what works for them For me i do a quick tidy of my home before bed, the dishes are done through out the day, and the kitchen is clean. The next day is planned for. It makes life easy. My day starts with getting up, allowing the bed to air out while I use the bathroom and turn on the shower to heat up. While that is happening, I make the bed. Coming back into my fresh bedroom after showering really starts the day off. Walking into a bright, tidy, clean kitchen in the morning is wonderful. Do one load of laundry a day. I do mine at night. I love watching Steph on The Secret Slob.Diane in Denmark is a nice lady, but she doesn't have little ones home anymore, and she reminds me of a hyper little twittering bird :)

[@MinimalistHome]

Ooh, I love your system! Yes, I love Diane's energy and Steph is awesome too! Thanks for sharing your routine and thanks for watching!

[@momof2momof2]

@@MinimalistHome Welcome ! Have a great day 🥰💐🌷🌵🌺🌞🏜️💗✝️

[@MinimalistHome]

@@momof2momof2 Thank you, you too!

[@marisolhazim5404]

Totally agree about fly lady’s website, I was shocked the first time I went on there. So disorganized and cluttered feels very outdated too. I didn’t feel motivated by it, instead I felt overwhelmed and discouraged,. Will try clean mama.

[@MinimalistHome]

Yes, I feel the same way. I hope she simplifies it one day

[@DeAnnaRoss1978]

Oh! Is Clean Mama Ruth Soukup? The clean mama stuff reminds me of her tips and tools! Found her online a few years ago and she was amazing!

[@MinimalistHome]

No, clean mama is a lady named Becky, but she may have got some info there

[@ligiagomez707]

New sub! As a minimalist I say no to the glass bottles. The sprayer breaks and no one sells replacement sprayers and dollar tree ones didn't fit. So, I ended up recycling expensive grove collab bottles.

[@MinimalistHome]

Wow!! I had not even thought of this!! Thank you!