Clearing the Air - RE: Erick Landon

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[@davidvinc]

Watch the first part of this video here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIasdYp9oNSphMk

[@johanandersson8252]

Why would a gay person be considered as a plague 🤔, you are yourself and has diffirent tastes. I think it would also be great for Ken to talk it out with a therapist and then, you and he can talk it out, Ken doesn’t need that bagage if so, share it with him 💑.

[@stevengu8382]

@@johanandersson8252 It's the 1970s and 1980s we're talking about, which has a completely different culture and different viewpoints on social norms. Back during that time period, people were taught in school that gay people are sick. I've in fact, seen some of the videos they would show kids about this issue back in my AP World History class.

[@jorgedominguez2992]

My sympathies to Ken. I hope he heals soon if he hasn't yet.

[@georgehatzimanolakis1904]

Hey, just curious, are you and Erick good then? It doesn't sound like it from your side. None of my business but our hardcore jrpg cult is too small to be splintered!

[@tyronegaskins3559]

I love you man!!

[@BoundaryBreak]

Despite the context of this video I just wanted to say congratulations on 18 years with your SO!

[@davidvinc]

Thank you so much!

[@lonman80]

“This is not politics, this is my LIFE. This is my MARRIAGE. My life, my existence is not political.” 🙌🏾❤️🙌🏾❤️🙌🏾

[@JakeRandall]

You are such are an inspirational human. These last couple of videos your authenticity has just shone through like such a light. I'm a huge fan not just of your content but of you as a person. Thank you for being so genuine.

[@JakeRandall]

@pit lord sorry for whatever you’re going through that makes you feel lashing out is the way to feel better. I wish you all love.

[@abw1317]

He ight, lol but no David reminds me of my in laws (fiance has two dads) so I enjoy this channels cool dad vibes.

[@Sockobotto]

FINGER GUNS

[@Jimmymatthewb]

@pit lord Why is it a joke to call David an "inspirational human"?

[@adamclark8994]

He's a good guy.

[@JohnnyGayzmonic]

I'm 44 years old, and I grew up thinking that since I was gay, I would be dead of AIDS before I was 30. That's how frightening it was back then. I don't think most people comprehend that. Straight people certainly don't, especially if they're younger. I totally understand where you and Ken are coming from. When you've worked this hard to wade through all the nonsense and hatred you grew up with, and struggled for DECADES to become the person you are now, it's something you feel the need to defend.

[@St4rTr3v1Ut10n]

That does sound horrifying. I'm under 40, so the AIDS epidemic wasn't really something I worried about, and it's so easy to say "Oh just use a condom!" but people had no idea what was really happening. Princess Diana shaking hands with an AIDS patient was huge news. We're glad to still have you with us!

[@scottimothy1]

I think its hard for people now to imagine. When I was around 11 I was terrified to go to the doctor because I thought I might have aids. I had never had sex but from the way my religious family talked I thought gay people just GOT aids. I also thought the doctor would be able to medically tell I was gay.

[@jamessnedeker4799]

Im a straight guy who came here originally for your top tens but stay engaged for your earnest personality. Its rare for something to get me choked up but stories about communities ravaged by AIDS like Ken's do it. Much love to both of you. 🏳️‍🌈🌈

[@GodBroly]

This right here same for me I couldn’t have said it better

[@derekkarofsky9694]

I am a HIV counselor for almost 8 years now. Hearing stories about how bad AIDS was is saddening. You took the high road and even asked us not to go at Erick for the clearly awful words said. Know that your stories keep counselors like me motivated to keep helping others everyday.

[@32_bit_gamer]

"Peace cannot be achieved by force, it can only be achieved by understanding."

[@KarimJovian]

It is great seeing this side of you. Need more people with your way of speaking. My love for RPGs made me find your channel. Yup I am straight too. And you're right your life, your marriage, is not political.

[@TheNybling]

People born after 1990 probably will not know that HIV/AIDS started off being called GRID (Gay-related Immune deficiency). When I was a kid we watched a movie about a kid who contracted the disease from a blood transfusion (Ryan White), and that kind of opened a lot of people's eyes about it (and Magic Johnson contracting HIV). So the term 'plague', while bad, is going to have even more meaning for people who remember the 1980s and early 1990s.

[@thesteammachinepodcast]

Erick seemed to backtrack REAL quick... You rock, David

[@diegoseba12]

what, you wanted him to double down or ignore everything? lol

[@radianttrails939]

Hey David, I wanted to apologize to you. I left a pretty insensitive message on your video yesterday and with the intention of being insensitive. I assessed why I did that, and will make a point to do better. No one should feel like a "plague". I hope you see and feel the support you deserve, you truly do seem like a person we need more of in this world. Sorry again

[@davidvinc]

Thank you so much for your gracious apology, that means alot to me :)

[@Bornagainvillain]

As a straight dude, I can't say I relate to the legitimate struggles that people of the LGBT face. I can say that they have every right to exist, and live normal, human lives, with normal human experiences. This is from my limited experiences with members in that community that are close to me. I can say though, that I am glad that you exist, and this video and this channel has helped me through my own biases. Many, many a JRPG speak against discrimination and alongside it, speak themes of opposites finding common ground and coexisting. To quote Guy from Tales of The Abyss: "Luke, you need to be more careful with your words." It's easy and simple to articulate one's views without coming off as insensitive.

[@thenervousnpc8665]

Great comment!

[@Bornagainvillain]

@@anonamatron and those people we ignore for they're the definition of insane. It doesn't matter what side, for whatever reason conflict starts because of differences, and clashing viewpoints. People can reach one another despite their differences through understanding. Those who don't seek understanding, by default choose to further conflict.

[@antontaun]

Sending love to you and your husband; I can't believe how much you guys have been through....my dad's friend in high school back in the 80s almost got beaten to death for being gay, but he stood up for him and saved his life.

[@theflyingninja1]

Yeah, I saw a lot of gays beaten up while growing up in the 80s and 90s here in the UK. I was a kid so couldn't do anything, but it always stuck with me.

[@anthonygiovanni8434]

Some people try to rationalize what they do and or say to minimize what damage was done… by saying “ oh it was out of context “ … Intolerance and insensitivity at its finest: and it doesn’t work that way. Thank you for this David! I’m glad you BOTH came to some sort of resolution and were at least able to communicate. I know that wasn’t easy for either of you . I truly do believe we all learned a valuable lesson from this . RESPECT ✊🏽

[@tomderry7295]

Damn. That’s heartbreaking to hear Ken’s story. It’s good to hear that there was communication between you and Erick. Dialogue is important in bridging gaps, hopefully it was productive and truly impactful.

[@notachannel77]

Why people choose to separate because of hate instead of joining together out of love is something I will never understand. As someone who's been a fan of JRPGs since the 90s, this channel is a godsend. Keep up the good work!

[@simplytragic]

You should not have had to handle this with the level of grace that you have, but my heart goes out to you for being the better man here.

[@phantasmex]

I'm seeing a lot of comments that seem to suggest that this "clearing of the air" means everything is just fine between the two of them. And while I think both videos show that there is no animosity between them, I don't get the sense that "everything is cool" now. It seems Erick still didn't understand why his comments were problematic even after hearing this very personal story. And he was even further adamant that he is not apologizing for what he said. The best resolution to come out of this is David's request to people not to go retaliate on Erick's channel and for people to stop asking for a collab between the two. But to think all this good now is naïve.

[@Magnamaster]

That's fair but the same point David is not helping the situation here because he very explicitly stated in this video that Eric said gay people are plague at no point in any given context or situation did he use those words meanwhile David is making it a point to be very specific about the word that you use and he's paraphrasing what Eric said so that's not helping

[@Orcael]

@@Magnamaster Are you kidding me? There is *literally* a clip of Eric saying exactly that in the last video. There is no mistaking context. Please watch it.

[@shannonwilliams7249]

@@Orcael Agreed. Eric ignored David, coincidence my ass. Eric’s response was really, really lame.

[@CynicalGamingBlogTerry309]

Well you gotta remember that Erick was speaking very broadly and his intent was to shit on the left wing extremists. He didn't go out of his way to attack David for his sexuality. I do think that Erick needs to learn the root of the problem though, he blames the LGBT community, because that's the face that represents all the issues he is against. Thing is that it's not really the LGBT community that is causing this, it is the left wing extremists who are using the LGBT community as meatshields. It's an easy misunderstanding to make and it's very unfortunate that these people have been used as political meatshields but that's the world we live in I'm afraid, people preying on others for their own selfish gain, that's what politics really is. Erick needs to learn this, I agree but at the same time, I do see his frustrations and his intentions and I can safely say that they are not wrong, heck I agree with them, fuck extremism.

[@alanscott2517]

Eric decided to speak on David's behalf in his video, saying that David knows he's not a homophobe. David gave Eric the respect of not speaking for him. David's pure class. It's clear that things are not settled or hashed out, but that they are as close as they can be for now and if it's all David feels like dealing with it then I don't blame him at all.

[@kathymetzle8099]

Your maturity is something we need to see more of online during disagreements, your response is so level-headed and reasonable. I won't support Erick Landon because I'm gay and I understand that I'm not welcome, but I won't ever be spreading hatred towards him or those who watch his videos because it's none of my business. I'm glad you two were able to share your thoughts peacefully 😊

[@stevenleonmusic]

I've never even heard of him. The KZbin algorithm must know better than to recommend his channel to me because it recommends all kinds of RPG content but I had to Google his name to figure out what this video was even about. Fine by me, obviously I'm not missing anything and I'd rather stay blissfully ignorant of his content.

[@nathancarmen1685]

You’re being a class act about all of this. Good on you for stating your feelings so well without being hostile. Much love to you and your partner.

[@ScottakaFil]

You're a teacher. You taught an important lesson today. Listen to people and try to understand rather than try to cut down. Thanks for sharing your story, love your videos and content.

[@Robster5886]

Here you go. People talking it out. A rarity in today's world. Well done.

[@Yup712]

For reals! Was so happy to hear they spoke and worked things out. I was already a fan of both channels and this made me respect both of them even more.

[@bandrew1442]

Thank you David. This was really important for you to share, LGBT+ history is full of so much tragedy and struggle and I think it's easy for people outside the community to write us off as too sensitive, but we can never go back to how things used to be and if fighting for equal treatment and respect makes someone uncomfortable, that's just too bad.

[@serenavox5540]

David, I am glad that you two were able to talk and clear things up a bit. I am very sorry for the things that Ken has gone through and I'm so happy that you have each other. You were not unjustified in being upset over the usage of the word "plague" in the slightest and you are entitled to feel exactly how you do. I hope that you can mend from this soon. I'm always here for you and love you both!

[@gramlar3506]

This is I why I love this channel. Lotsa fun with JRPGs, but you are such a real person who reach out to your community. Keep it up, you actually bring magnitude to the gaming public

[@bobgray6498]

The gays who survived the AIDs crisis in the 80s and 90s are so strong. You guys have my utmost respect. As a millennial gay, I feel so lucky we have prep and all the medication that makes it possible for people to live long and healthy lives with hiv

[@davidvinc]

Thank you so much :)

[@dustanglx50]

I am a straight man, but supportive. When anyone ever suggests "gay is a choice", I ask them if Lefties choose to be lefties. The norm is right handed, lefties CAN use their right hand, but it don't feel natural. There is differences in people that make them left handed. If you are Left handed, it's because they where born left handed. If you can get them to see that, you can open their mind to the fact that some things you can't choose. You can choose to be with a woman, but you would be a lefty writing with your right hand.

[@AdversaryOne]

Same argument I use as well. Though I do think some people get turned out in prison.

[@serenavox5540]

I’ve never heard this before and as a left handed person I totally love it. People ask me all the time how it is to be left handed. Idk like being me? How does it feel to be right handed? I’ll start using this now 💖

[@jackbutler6606]

Me: a gay leftie: do.... Do they cancel out? No but seriously, this is the perfect analogy. My aunt was born left handed but was "fixed" by the nuns (1970s Ireland be like that) and ever since, she's been a bit off because of what that damage did to her

[@davidtimmer596]

@@serenavox5540 As a fellow leftie, I get that. My paternal grandfather was also left-handed.

[@mariojlds]

He literally deleted the video "apologizing" the guy has no intention of taking accountability or changing his ways. Honestly we're all better off without him.

[@davidvinc]

Well that's disappointing to say the least

[@damasake]

Did someone archived it somewhere?

[@kingdomtrue7008]

The fact that you stay calm and throughly explain your thought process behind your opinions says a lot about you and the fact that you are more than willing to have a civil conversation with people and if not change their opinions but at least understand is what keeps me coming back to your channel. Well that and you have introduced me to characters and even whole games and series that I otherwise would not have known about and for both points I thank you.

[@zeroXshinobi]

Dude you truly are awesome. I really respect that you spoke to Erick about this. Sometimes in life you have to face things others may not want to or have the courage to, and you did it respectfully. I'm sorry to hear about your partners PTSD it must be difficult but he has a great man to support him through those difficult moments. OMG I cant believe your age!!! This is the first time i'm hearing it and btw you look awesome! Ugh im 36 and i am feeling it already 😂

[@Blueshellkyle]

I don’t comment often but I just wanted to express my admiration for you. You ooze class and wisdom. You give this niche community something to be really proud of. You’re special, and I thank you for what you do.

[@DaddyGamerDiaries]

Man you can always tell when someone has been through hours of therapy and has the ability to be truly introspective. I know Erik has some cultural and linguistic filters that could make the communication of complex and nuanced topics more cumbersome, so I appreciated your recognition of that. Growing up a straight Latino male, toxicity is ubiquitous and you have to actively be aware of machismo and how it impacts every fiber of your life. Feelings are often taboo other than love of sports, and scapegoating becomes a way of deflecting your own struggles.

[@agustinpestoni6256]

"OMG you guys! It was all a misunderstanding! They are ok now! I'm sure they'll do a collab soon" Sheeesh! Some people are really out of touch with reality...

[@fernandoaleta9807]

David all i wanna say is you are such a class act! Erick always gave me a bad vibe and this confirms it for me, keep being great like always

[@dickyyuspandi6752]

It's a hard life for your husband. But he must be lucky to have you.

[@ekdavey]

David, I'm 36, and I've been out since 2001 when I was 16. Having spent two full decades in the LGBT community, I've seen the continuing effect of the HIV/AIDS crisis. We lost an entire generation from our culture, including activists, artists, musicians, etc who would've influenced the next generations of gay men and the wider culture. We suffered huge setbacks politically and socially, basically undoing a lot of the progress our community had made since Stonewall '69 and the early pride parades. in the 1980s, Reagan utterly ignored AIDS and HIV to avoid upsetting his reactive conservative base and the rising evangelical tide that compared HIV to a biblical plague. So not only did we lost an entire generation of LGBT people, but we also suffered psychological damage as a community due to the rising, more vitriolic homophobia that ensued. I see the word "plague" associated with gay people, and see a particularly insidious slur. But maybe Erick really was ignorant of that entire concept, I don't know. I think the best thing to do is to simply ignore him, block his channel, and forget about the guy. Focus on the larger group of people who enjoy your work for its own merits.

[@eschw2444]

You say you're old for being married for 18 years but it's amazing that you've had a partner in love and in life for 18 years!

[@edgeninja]

It's hard to believe there's homophobic gamers in 2021, when taking up games as a hobby pretty much requires you to have an open mind in and of itself (ESPECIALLY concerning Japanese games). But I've personally witnessed the videogame community grow more and more toxic since gaming went online. Don't even get me started on Gamergate.

[@gravesplendour3481]

This is a courageous video. Bigotry relies on dehumanising its victims and this is a very human response which commands respect. Love and power to you and Ken.

[@brennaegan9114]

I’m so glad you guys talked it out. I’ll be honest-I prefer your videos, because they’re closer to my personal feelings on most of the games we’ve both played, and I appreciate your take on things I haven’t played. I’m a cishet woman, who hasn’t always been treated with a lot of respect as a gamer (and I’m apparently older than you, as per this video!), and I can see and feel a lot of parallels in how men treat women gamers. But a “plague?” Never. Your partner is an inspiration, and so are you. Thank you for this. ❤️

[@christhiancastillo1607]

You look like an honest dude, all the best to you man. If everyone stayed civil like this, things would be very different.

[@anthonycollin9406]

As a Mexican, still really disapprove of Erik's comments and reponse; language barriers are no excuse for this too- But really my heart goes to everything you and your partner have been through. People out here really still have no idea; love, gratitude and goodwill to you both ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜

[@davidvinc]

Thank you so much, considering that he does public speaking and he is an AUTHOR, I really don't think that a language barrier was the issue here.

[@thehoff3189]

David you are a stand up guy. Thank you for clearing the air and sharing this story, it couldn't have been easy. Thank you for your content and friendship

[@davidvinc]

Thank you so much King!

[@iTotofogo]

Thank you for having the strength to share your story + leading by example in teaching rather than escalating.

[@JC-cb8oi]

You’ve got a heart made of gold, David. A true class act.

[@J2ojuiced95]

I’m a fan of both David and Erick’s channels, they have very different styles of covering similar topics. I’m happy to hear they’ve settled things civilly, sadly that’s a rare occurrence nowadays.

[@Walamonga1313]

I'm glad. I hate drama (cause I've seen too much) and would much rather just live and let live. Too much of an energy drain to get worked up by it.

[@Gaspingindeath]

Thank you for sharing some of Kens story. It brought a tear to my eye, but these are things that people that don't understand the LGBTQIA+ community need to hear. Hopefully it will make sense to them someday, but it still makes me mad how many have to suffer and die before some peoples eyes open...

[@BetOnLuckyClover]

Thank you, David, for such a powerful and emotional response. I can only imagine that it took a lot to compose yourself enough to make such a well-spoken and in depth reply in response to someone who ultimately does not deserve your time but the more I think about it, the more I acknowledge you are not addressing him in this video. You are addressing and sharing with us, your audience, your friends and fans who are happy to stand by you in this. We appreciate every moment of vulnerability you share with us and every story that shows who you are as a person.

[@rickyi3523]

Handled like a true gentleman. My hat's off to you.

[@YoshMaster]

woah.. Ken had an extremely hard life 😮😢 I wish you two the best ❤️ you’re both very strong people, I admire that tenacity!

[@BrandonYUMad]

as a fellow gaymer, I hope you take pride in being a safe space for everyone, regardless of their sexuality, race, gender identity etc. Your channel is incredibly important to us 🌟

[@CelestialNerd336]

You handled this with more class than I would've on my best day, man. Good on you. While Erick is free to speak as he pleases, I still won't be watching his videos anymore. Thank you for sharing, and best wishes to you and Ken.

[@alenofbellwood]

Giving you hell for being gay makes about as much sense as being racist to him for his uncontrolled circumstances of birth. That being said, opinions formed after birth are up for debate. You convinced me over time to give the Tales series another shot after Symphonia soured me on it. And it was your earnest, friendly nature conveying your love for the series that did it. So thank you for being you.

[@Iamtheamazingmrg]

The whole "don't be political" thing is so much nonsense. Its just a way for people to try and ignore things they don't feel comfortable with. Rather than saying "don't be political" they should instead embrace the discomfort. Get to know some people outside of their normal frame of reference. They'll realise that people are people wherever they come from, whoever they have sex with, whatever religion they follow (or not). Life's much better for all concerned if you actively choose not to hate. That's not political, its a lifestyle choice. Powerful video, David.

[@unsynchronized1]

Amazing response on your part. You're an eloquent young man David! ❤️ Thank you for sharing such personal stories. It makes a difference.

[@SirVyre]

Man, I can't even imagine how hard it hurts to lose one long term partner, let alone several. For what little it's worth, my heart goes out to Ken. I'm glad he's persevered and met you. I hope y'all continue having a good marriage for however many decades you both have left to walk the Earth. I grew up in Georgia with gay peers at every stage of my life, from middle school into college. Life didn't stop there, and I met many gay peers in the military. Almost every one of them was someone that I made friends with, and threw everything I was raised with into question. I will be 32 in a few months. While I may never fully understand my gay peers' perspective, I will always understand that anyone who is gay is just like me outside of that. There is no need for hate. You're wonderful David. I look forward to more of your video game content, and more of your life stories. I think your life stories help me keep things in perspective, and they also help me find ways to explain what I know to people who don't know it yet.

[@jeffstellarry7996]

You are truly a class act and I love your channel. Ken must be so strong to push forward with all the grief he's had to endure. I wish you both nothing but the best.

[@taleroandres]

Thank you for sharing Ken’s story and educating me on context of the AIDS epidemic. I never thought of it through that lense. I love the community you have fostered and you should be proud of what you have built. I love Landon’s videos, but his community has really showed some toxicity.

[@davidvinc]

I've worked very hard to cultivate a warm and welcoming community here that I'm proud of :)

[@richardgerlach515]

I’m glad you and Erick seemed to have a good albeit heated discussion, but it seemed very fruitful and productive. Sharing this story about Ken was also deeply moving and sad. I wish people thought more about the effects their words have. I really enjoy your content and community. I can’t wait to see more from you.

[@thefopsvids]

Love you so much, David! Thank you for always being thoughtful, eloquent, and kind.

[@joshrchanfan]

Wow, this one went deep. Definitely hit the feels with this one. There's no mystery why this channel is growing. There is just so much that goes into this community, Real stuff.

[@goodkillermusic]

I've been trying to think of what to write. Erick's plague comment struck a nerve in me. I've heard that rhetoric time and again from family, bosses, strangers... We can try and ignore those comments, but those ideologies aren't just words. They add to the hate and descrimination we face every day of our lives. Erick's non-apology came after 3 hours of talking with you. He heard the same story we did, and he still thought what he said was justified. I don't understand how he justifies it, and I doubt I ever will. Taking Erick out of the conversation entirely, stories like Ken's are so important. My heart breaks at what earlier generations went through. I don't think I'd have it in me to not only survive, but to put myself back out there and find love. Ken is incredibly strong, and I hope he realizes what a huge inspiration he is. Anyway, this comment has gone on long enough. Thank you for the work you do, and for turning a bad situation into a teachable moment. You rock, my dude.

[@brianramsay6445]

Thank you. I love your videos. It’s a calm place in the storm. You’ve been nothing but respectful and mature in all of this and it’s really nice to see. You are a scholar and a gentleman sir.

[@ryanblackwell6402]

This is the first time I’ve seen a video of yours. Even though I see it’s not your normal content I have to subscribe! Your civility and story is awesome.

[@Eagleknight815]

Words do hurt. It's a reminder for not just those with the platform to speak to thousands of people but it's also those who think this is okay to say in private. Hopefully this helps someone out there change their mindset a little when they are angry, jealous or just flat out negative. Everyone has feelings - So Let's all try to be excellent to one another! Thank you for sharing and thanks to Ken for opening up his past though you, David.

[@honey_mustard98]

Thank you so much for sharing Ken’s story. We are not a plague. It is so tough being gay, and I’m so proud of you for standing up for everything. We need to stick together. You’re an amazing role model, and I look up to you so much. Love you, David.

[@theflyingninja1]

You think it's tough now, try being gay in the 90s 😬

[@honey_mustard98]

@@anonamatron For the love of god, please get over yourself.

[@Jyakotu]

Ultimately, the lesson here is, words hurt. I watched both videos. I am subscribed to both channels. Both of them cover my one of my favorite genres, JRPGs. However, I think at this point, it’s best that both parties agree to disagree. As someone who is a bisexual male, I do feel more for David than Erick, because LGBTQ+ individuals already have to go through so much in their personal lives. The fact that you are treated differently and can lose important connections, such as close friends and family, just because of who you’re attracted to is upsetting. Who I love and am intimate with shouldn’t have any effect on your personal life, but the thing is, straight people don’t have to think about things like this. Hell, some people are quicker to accept an interracial relationship than a gay relationship, and before y’all come at me, yes, there are still societies out there that frown upon interracial relationships. I’m glad both of them addressed the issue, but I definitely do know that this is a “forgive, but won’t forget” situation.

[@davidvinc]

Thank you for your support in this situation :)

[@TarksGauntlet]

I definitely missed where all this kicked off but I'm happy to hear you're all finding a way to move on and co-exist. Happy 18 years to you and your husband. Happy for you dude!

[@davidvinc]

Thank you so much Tarks :) If you would like more context just watch the video I posted the day prior answering My "Most Asked Question"

[@orbitearth7579]

18 years?, uuh, how old is he again?. I thought david is around 35

[@ryanpirosch3977]

Unfortunately if you have to argue with someone that gay people aren't a plague, their hate is so entrenched that the only thing that will speak to them is consequences.

[@griffix757]

Thanks to both of you for staying civil and all our support to Ken and you David !

[@jamescocorikis8595]

I try to think about what to say, and I'm speechless at how much tragedy, and loss Ken has dealt with, I'm so happy that he has you there with him to help ease his pain, thank you for sharing, I can't imagine how hard that had to have been to share, and I'm again so happy you two have each other.

[@dizzy900]

As a fellow gay man, I have to thank you for these last videos. You handled this situation with so much patience and maturity. I always feel powerless when people discuss gay rights like it's just another minor political issue and not something that real human lives are effected by. Personally I feel nothing but disdain for people like Erick but I respect the hell out of you for actually trying and talking to him, I know it can be really draining to discuss this stuff with people that aren't personally effected by homophobia.

[@jpower1414]

Fantastic response. I found your channel through Erick and instantly subscribed and I've been watching through your cataloge of videos all day. Bravo!

[@russellrawson7762]

You are easily one of my favorite jrpg content creators, your delivery and zeal for whatever game you're referencing shines through every video. That being said, no one should ever think that you're beholden to some kind of standard (political or otherwise). You worked hard (and continue to) to get to this point. I truly wish the best for you and Ken

[@JDHutchison]

I’m glad you’re taking the high road here. A lot of his explanations do sound like post hoc justifications; ones that I question the truthfulness of. But it is what it is. You keep doing you, sir. I always appreciate how you go about things.

[@eliotwildermann]

I'm also glad u guy's could talk and work out ur differences cuz there is so little of that happening in the world which is very saddening

[@judah6153]

Usually a lurker here, been here awhile. Just wanted to say thank you for sharing your story. In a world of canceling others I also respect asking people to stay civil even of its obvious someone was in the wrong. Really beautiful conversation and best of luck to you and your partner.

[@okamiway4227]

Thank you so much david! I cant imagine how very dificult is to talk about this subject. You are a such brave and gentle person and i wish to you and your husband the best and please never change. Greetings from Venezuela 😊❤

[@makeshift_battlefield_music]

A very wise and mature perspective David. I'm glad that you are emphasizing the value of communication and the power of words. Your honesty and approach to the situation is really something great 👍

[@climax90hero]

It's good to hear that you two went ahead and talked while being civil even if everything isn't pitch perfect. I hope you're doing alright with all this, it's always good to understand one another even if there's a bit of a barrier. Love your videos and hope for the best here on out

[@Daviddododo]

Chrono Cross was unavoidable 🤣

[@Chelaxim]

I guess you could say it was...FATE.

[@leonard9624]

Unavoidable trash heheh

[@bastioncory6740]

@@Chelaxim I guess you could say that CC is a "Plague" to them

[@drewferguson8324]

I’ve been watching both of you for over a year now and I enjoy your content for different reasons. I’ve also been an ally to the community for over a decade. One of my best friends is bi and he’s one of the best human beings I know. He’s very careful about the way he speaks to people and I’ve learned a lot about that through him. Unfortunately not everyone is that aware of their words and mistakes happen. Most of the time it’s an honest mistake and hopefully it’s a good learning experience.

[@abenator5303]

mexican here, there is a lot of hate towards gay people. Violence was encouraged towards them and yes it was called a plague that infects people. I know some very fucked up things that have happened to people that lived in my village. On positive note, the culture is changing slowly and has been more acceptive of the gay community. You are right and I applaud both of you for coming together and having a conversation. You David are a shining light and you look soo young bro! thanks for everything!

[@16xthedetail76]

No, just because you focus on the negative doesn't make that the norm. I have a ton of gay friends and none of them have had bad experiences in the past 10 years.

[@abenator5303]

@@16xthedetail76 Yes, This is what i saw as a child in mexico in the early 90's. I dont know why you would say no. Obviously not everyone experiences hardships. So, yes in many small villages that WAS the norm.

[@16xthedetail76]

@@abenator5303 For sure i don't deny that but saying that there is in your words "a lot of hate for gay people" is just flat out not true.

[@abenator5303]

@@16xthedetail76 yes there is LOL, what planet do you live in? Are you just generalizing the area you live at? Many people agree with me that a lot of countries are just that violent and hateful towards them. I can provide proof if you want.

[@16xthedetail76]

@@abenator5303 I live in reality unlike a lot of other people. Oh you mean religious countries wherein the religion states that homosexuals should be killed? No shit that still exists but even in those countries A LOT of people don't agree with it. Here in the west the only hate for gay people i've seen is that caused by twitter loudmouths that keep screaming about oppression and waving the alphabet soup flag around, doing that shit is more harmful than good.

[@toolman4745]

It's so easy to get up in arms about this and you're staying so civil and so even keeled. I doubt I'd be able to in your shoes. Erick really needed to apologize for the plague comment and he didn't... I can't even fathom what it is to go through what Ken went through. And as a married man myself, I know exactly how what happens to your partner effects you, especially when it's their pain. I'm really sorry you've had to go through this. It's definitely not something anyone should have to worry about and I have much respect to how you have handled it.

[@Magnamaster]

I don't think he needed to apologize anyone who took it out of context is dumb he very clearly stated that the community is currently toxic and it is even the older generation would vastly agree with this and that he's no longer a fan of the current mindset he didn't explicitly use the phrase toxicity on multiple different platforms of the new millennial generation what that was clearly evident by reading between the lines anyone else needs to pick up on some comprehension lessons he literally had queer individuals on his channel so he's in no way homophobic and he is friends with gay individuals as well it's the same level of intitle toxicity that he's talking about and sensitivity like people trying to cancel Dave Chappelle but yes peoples feelings are valid and justified but in that context its more import that intent is gotten across to be not misconstrued words can never hurt me is not really true but at the same point it makes more sense to have some talk from both sides

[@toolman4745]

@@Magnamaster Dude, he called the entire LGBT community a plague. If he had said "blacks" or "women" or "Mexicans" instead, you will see how he and now you are in the wrong.

[@serenavox5540]

@@omensoffate Yes he did. He did not specify when he made the remark, he only backpedaled on his most recent video and stated he meant x not y. If he stated in the first place that he had an issue with a specific grouping within the community rather than the community as a whole, well this convo wouldn't be happening.

[@toolman4745]

@@omensoffate I am indeed thinking of the full context. He said the entire LGBT community is a plague. Taylor from The Gaming Shelf was shocked and says he regrets not calling him on it then. You are defending an incredibly bigoted statement right now which is quite telling.

[@Cimmantti]

Yeah he literally didn’t apologize for anything on his video he said he doesn’t regret anything David is just being extra nice to avoid drama but the other guy (and literally all the followers in his comments) don’t understand any part of the picture. They just said oh it’s a misunderstanding but as a grown man you DON’T just have misunderstandings about these things. There’s nothing to “agree to disagree” on and the fact David said they talked around in circles shows that the other guy didn’t learn anything

[@jasonsmith2759]

This is not political, this is just human decency. It is sad that being decent to other people is being seen as a political stance. Thanks for being so open and vulnerable

[@josersreviews137]

I know this is an older video, but I just saw it and had to respond. I'm almost a decade older than you, hetero, and I grew up in the deep south, so very much remember that time w/ the aids virus. It broke my heart hearing this story, but you and your partner are strong. Never change. My best friend who is more of a brother to me than my own flesh and blood told me almost a decade after meeting him that he was gay but married a woman to conform. he wasn't happy and finally got divorced and embraced himself. He was hesitant to tell his friends and some did choose to not have anything to do with him, however I told him this I don't care who you love as long as they love you back. you're my best friend and I love you. I meant it. I've known him now for getting close to 30 years (god i feel old saying that) but it's still true. He once told me that he had to hide most of his early life because in the south he had 2 big things against him, he was black and he was gay. I've seen a lot of moving forward here and i'm so happy. I told my child long ago I don't care who you love, just be loved back. Anyways, enough rambling, you really touched my feelings w/ this story. THANK YOU for being YOU

[@davidvinc]

Thank you so much for sharing your story with me!!

[@Surlysearle]

Thanks for sharing this David, your honesty and maturity is really striking and brave. It takes a lot to share experiences like that, and to do it in such a considered and nuanced way speaks to your character. Hope you and Ken are Ok!

[@misterkeebler]

I appreciate you sharing your thoughts and feelings on this. Ken's story is heartbreaking, and it really gives a dose of reality to a topic that nowadays does not get nearly as much attention. I'm only a few years younger than you, and even that small difference was enough to put me in an age bracket where most of my exposure to the AIDS conversation in the 90s was thru PSAs on special episodes on TV shows, or as fear fuel for pushing an broader abstinence agenda. A lot of people just truly aren't aware of the real impacts on fellow human lives by these types of conditions and situations throughout history, and sharing those stories with real names and real faces as opposed to just statistics can often help others develop or strengthen their sense of empathy, myself included. So thank you for being open.

[@CHONK-Music]

I don’t think I’d come across you on my KZbin travels until I saw Erick’s video yesterday, but you seem to be extremely intelligent and kind. You’ve got a new subscriber in me.

[@glennsperling736]

Wow, thank you so much for sharing Ken’s story. I said it before, and I will reiterate it again. You have my support. I absolutely support you for who you are and appreciate you.

[@retrorydia]

I'm so glad you guys have been able clear the air.

[@fallingcanyon]

I know this must have been hard but thank you for sharing this personal story. This touched me. As for Erik what you said is correct. You truly are an amazing human and why you're my favorite.

[@Foxttrot42]

Thank you for sharing this story, David. Like others have said, I came for the jrpg videos, I stayed for the awesome person you are. Nothing but love. Keep up the great work! 👍

[@MinecraftMartin]

I don't know whether you will agree or not, but this was in a way ... a very unconventional yet beautiful collaboration. You and Eric's interaction seem to have touched a lot of people the past two days. I haven't read every single comment, but at first I saw a lot of outrage and anger in the comments. But after Eric's video last night and yours today, the comments reflected more understanding and an unwillingness to hate than I was expecting. You two talking it out and both coming out with a unified "we cleared the air" message is tremendous. Three hours, wow. You can't interact with someone that long without a level of civility. This is the best collaboration we could have expected. It was obviously a painful experience for both of you, so I am saying that with sincere respect. Thank you for sharing your story, that is a lot to carry.

[@FunSize4Audibles]

People existing is not political. A person's lived experiences are not political.

[@riddleoffeels4518]

I grew tired of his channel which lead me to yours and I enjoy your content a great deal more. I couldn’t consider watching his knowing this. Thank you for sharing such a deep and heartfelt story and explanation to us. You have amazing charisma and a passion we all share for rpg’s. I’ll keep working through my backlog on your channel with upvotes and support!

[@jean-philippesoucy578]

I was watching some of your past videos and fell on this one, which touched me a lot. It’s amazing that you’ve been in your relationship for that long. I’ve been with a guy for 12 years, and unfortunately he died by suicide… So seeing you having found true love, and with someone that has understood and let you follow your passions (video games and training, which I share) is astounding and beautiful. I wish you both many more years of happiness 😁😁😁

[@EerieScreams]

I really appreciate you bringing up this topic. I've been a fan and long-time subscriber of both you and Erick for quite a long time now. I never took notice to Erick's hurtful words until now. I am weary of people when they say "nobody's perfect, we all mess up". There is a difference between "messing up" and deliberately choosing to harm a community of people. And yet, regardless of either situation, proper accountability of the perpetrator must be taken seriously. Needless to say, I am no longer interested in supporting said individual. It's not politics; it's called being a decent human being.

[@SantaDuJuan]

I just found this video. I’m sorry to see Erik said this but I’m glad he apologized. YOU ARE GREAT!!!