Lala Kramarenko 2020 - Who wins the difficulty?

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@ClematisRGVideos
@ClematisRGVideos 4 жыл бұрын
0:58 CORRECTION Only 2 rotations not 3 here 2:20 Could be "transmission without hands / unstable balance (without visual control)" for 0.3 point 2:54 ''rotation'' and not ''without visual control'' in the text duh MISTAKE with Kramarenko's ribbon details 9.0/6.5 and not 8.8/6.7 These videos are from GP Tartu Miss Valentine 2020 from @Estonia RG AGG. Lala Kramarenko has special routines in the sense that DB and DA are not distributed as usual (34% - 66% of points among top gymnasts VS Kramarenko 55% - 45%). She realizes few elements but all have high values, in particular the pivots. She does 5 per routines: 2 360° fully rotated backscale pivot often combined with AD, 2 combined pivots and 1 Split pivot. Therefore we see less AD, and in particular less large catch - throw combo (with walkover in extra). So far she doesn't seems to show weakness in body her difficulty, expect in 2 cases : - the Attitude/Ring combination that cause her a lot of problem (hops, form deviation, basic rotation incomplete) - the Side split pivot: the form present a (at least) a medium deviation. She has perhaps more weakness with the apparatus. She's still a bit green in apparatus handling with hoop (which is normal for a new senior) and she's often sticking her ball against her forearm. Finally her unstable balance with ball are very very similar during several pivots (especially side pivot and backscale pivot from the floor) :/ She also repeat the large throw for two BD (turning split jump / backscale balance). Hoop 15.8 (8.4 7.4) (with correction, see above) Ball 15.9 (8.3 7.6) Clubs 16.0 (8.4 7.6) Ribbon 15.5 (9.0 6.5) (with correction, see above)
@FranBlasco
@FranBlasco 4 жыл бұрын
COP 2017-2020: *isn't very favorable to pivots since it reduced the value of most of them* Lala: let me introduce myself
@rhythmicmusicswap4173
@rhythmicmusicswap4173 4 жыл бұрын
during the Rio's CoP she could ahve gotten 10 in D only doing pivots XD
@osbonecosdamirnita
@osbonecosdamirnita 4 жыл бұрын
I love her so much. She is powerful!
@bayupermana31
@bayupermana31 4 жыл бұрын
What I see from other gymnast: AD, throw, catch, AD, AD Kramarenko: pivot, pivot, pivot, BD, AD 😂
@lf9286
@lf9286 2 жыл бұрын
lol
@celinegandalf1583
@celinegandalf1583 4 жыл бұрын
“Only” five turns here Haha I can’t even do 2 :) And it’s so cool how her ribbon BD is ,ore than her AD
@ClematisRGVideos
@ClematisRGVideos 4 жыл бұрын
"only" is taking another dimension here ahah! All of her routines have high DB than DA. PS: You can do one turn that's a good start ;)
@ТатьянаСуркова-м6м
@ТатьянаСуркова-м6м 4 жыл бұрын
Это фантастика!!! Пируэты на грани!!!! Это обворожительно!!! Вас не догонят! Ещё лет 20!
@dododimitrov9657
@dododimitrov9657 4 жыл бұрын
I live for these combo pivots
@ЛюбимаяиСчастливая
@ЛюбимаяиСчастливая 4 жыл бұрын
Лалочка - будущая олимпийская чемпионка 🥇🏆🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
@mariyangeorgiev7675
@mariyangeorgiev7675 4 жыл бұрын
What can we say... last year we thought that 6+ in DB is a lot and now here is Lala :O She has the whole year to prepare for the next cycle where she is bound to be very successful, or so it seems for now
@silviakasper2314
@silviakasper2314 4 жыл бұрын
What a powerful athlete! And she is literarly a contortionist!
@celinegandalf1583
@celinegandalf1583 4 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh you’re so fast and amazing!
@ClematisRGVideos
@ClematisRGVideos 4 жыл бұрын
You're fast too ahah! I'm trying my best to finish before the end of next week with Halkina, Salos, Nikolchenko, Kaleyn, Harnasko and Pohranychna 😊
@agathad1
@agathad1 4 жыл бұрын
OMGGG! MAGNIFIC
@taniafoo9136
@taniafoo9136 4 жыл бұрын
her BD is crazyyy but i especially dislike her side scale pivot when her body is obviously not facing sideways
@W4d._.00
@W4d._.00 2 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how lala only does 7 bd's in her ribbon routine yet it has the highest DB score
@robertouscategui2487
@robertouscategui2487 4 жыл бұрын
I only wish she can let her arms/hands more loose, she seems rigid while performing a transition or awaiting to do a catch, however I see her reigning the next 2 Olympic cycles easily
@irenagoverdovsky6764
@irenagoverdovsky6764 4 жыл бұрын
She’s good, but all programs looks like the same. All in the temp with same turns . Sorry if it’s off top.
@dododimitrov9657
@dododimitrov9657 4 жыл бұрын
all gymnast more or less do same body elements in different order in all 4 routines. It would be great change if they implement and element or combination to be maximum done in 2 from 4 routines. This would bring diversity.
@gloriaroy5488
@gloriaroy5488 4 жыл бұрын
Also, her face always looks the same. I hope she could have more facial expressions, even just some smile.
@GumGirl
@GumGirl 4 жыл бұрын
@@dododimitrov9657 I don't think it's possible, her routines are too fast and packed with difficulties. She doesn't get any space in them 🤷‍♀️ I love Lala, but they're burning her out and I think that adding facial expressions could be too much
@rhythmicmusicswap4173
@rhythmicmusicswap4173 4 жыл бұрын
Just gotta love you ❤️
@cherrychocoangel1323
@cherrychocoangel1323 4 жыл бұрын
please do salos!
@ГалинаБеляева-э3е
@ГалинаБеляева-э3е 2 жыл бұрын
Супер Лада !!
@ludmilag2692
@ludmilag2692 4 жыл бұрын
За музыкальное оформление каждого вида - чумовое ....!!!!!!!и композицию !!! без сбавок !
@solomonsolomonovich2464
@solomonsolomonovich2464 2 жыл бұрын
Лала, ты лучшая в мире
@ahamedmusaf2185
@ahamedmusaf2185 2 жыл бұрын
Can someone break down the score at @2:32? Isn't it 0.5x6=3? How did they come up with a score of 6?
@Amelia-ui4uv
@Amelia-ui4uv 2 жыл бұрын
how do you make the things in the top left corner?
@Alice-hy6kj
@Alice-hy6kj 4 жыл бұрын
I calculated the partial "apparatus" in ribbon based on your analysis, but it results 6.5 instead of 6.7. Maybe I did just a mistake with calculation (math is not my strong point) but if it were right the total would be 15.3 and not 15,5
@ClematisRGVideos
@ClematisRGVideos 4 жыл бұрын
No, you're actually right! I mistype the details! The total is right, but not the details. 9.0 in DB and 6.5 in DA. Thank you for you're correction :)
@Abby-ox3gf
@Abby-ox3gf 4 жыл бұрын
Isn’t 1:38 an ad? Roll out of sight, in a rotation 0.2? It counts in the uk
@dannyjq
@dannyjq 4 жыл бұрын
too easy for a top gymnast, especially with hoop. it's harder with ball because the radius is smaller (but i think it should still not be valid with ball even if judges count it). also it would be 0.3 instead of 0.2 (large roll across 2 body segments)
@ClematisRGVideos
@ClematisRGVideos 4 жыл бұрын
Judges didn't even dear to count roll of the hoop outside off visual control during a Split Arabesque Balance last year (Newsletter 1), so I think this one is out of question for hoop.
@dannyjq
@dannyjq 4 жыл бұрын
@@ClematisRGVideos i always thought that was funny, because out of all the ADs they would say shouldn't be counted they chose that one! in my opinion that roll is much harder than a lot of real ADs, because it's hard to put the arms horizontal in penché
@JosephTobinDance
@JosephTobinDance 4 жыл бұрын
Hey! I love your videos, and this had really helped me understand how difficulty works within the sport. I just was curious, you say she does 720° backscale pivots in the video, however she only does 1 rotation which would be 360° right? I'm sure there's an explanation so I'm just curious as to how that works :) Please keep up the great videos!
@saem_rg
@saem_rg 4 жыл бұрын
the base rotation for backscale pivots is 180°, so you get 0.5 for half turn, and additional 0.2 if the turn is completed (360° - 0.7 points). 720° would be two full turns worth 1.1 points
@НаталияМилованова-е9ц
@НаталияМилованова-е9ц 4 жыл бұрын
New generation
@aldiz1298
@aldiz1298 4 жыл бұрын
I give this girl 1 more year or maximum 2 before her trainers and novogorsk "style" ruin her body and her career. Her body is starting to change and they are not adapting the routines to this crucial change. Look at averinas, they seemed unbreakable robots in 2017 and now three years later they look like mummies all wraped in bands for injuries.
@lf9286
@lf9286 2 жыл бұрын
They are still winning golds
@aishaizabekova1069
@aishaizabekova1069 4 жыл бұрын
In the hoop she also had a roll on the dance floor? 0,3?
@ClematisRGVideos
@ClematisRGVideos 4 жыл бұрын
This type of roll is considered to be part of the fundamental work of the hoop and not technically difficult synchronization like for ball.
@goranrichert2605
@goranrichert2605 4 жыл бұрын
Chydo!!
@db-wv9jx
@db-wv9jx 4 жыл бұрын
I thought only 9 DB were allowed why does she have around 12 in ribbon for example? Are they all counted? And also, when gymnasts already have the limit for DBs but they add DAs with DB like passé for criteria does that still count?
@W4d._.00
@W4d._.00 2 жыл бұрын
I only counted 7 but if you counted 12 you probably counted combination BDs as multiple BDs and no the passe pivot does not count as a BD because there are other BDs with higher value that get counted instead
@뻔빵
@뻔빵 4 жыл бұрын
Please do Kaleyn
@ClematisRGVideos
@ClematisRGVideos 4 жыл бұрын
On its way ;)
@osyasa6255
@osyasa6255 4 жыл бұрын
Omg! Only watching it makes me sweat 🥵🤯
@popaganda919
@popaganda919 4 жыл бұрын
lala for gold at tokyo
@dannyjq
@dannyjq 4 жыл бұрын
0:58 isn't it only R2, not R3? she only did 2 rotations at gp moscow and russian nationals as well. i also feel like she can only do the 3 attitude + 2 ring pivot at the beginning of the routine, if she puts it in the middle she can only do 1 ring pivot. but i suppose we can still count it here as possible. glad everyone is on the same page in hating- *cough* being suspicious of the validity of her side inclination pivots. also i really hope she gets some dance training to build her sense of artistry! her routines aren't so fast that it's impossible to have good choreography, she has a lot of time for it in between elements
@ClematisRGVideos
@ClematisRGVideos 4 жыл бұрын
0:58 Oh I though I remember it well that she did 3 rotations in Moscow an Nationals, but I should have checked! You're right about the combination attitude/pivot. I was more idealistic here, than for Raffaeli for example, where I clearly counted what she usually does. The side inclination is so cheated. She put in in combination with ring position to make the change more clear, but for me she's usually still in penche position (look at her legs!), only with a back slightly on the side, like a wrong penche position.
@Dadadadaetc
@Dadadadaetc 4 жыл бұрын
She is an excellent gymnast, but she lacks facial expression (I think)
@icebabyellen5495
@icebabyellen5495 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe who did this the best was Alina Maksymenko
@camilatakao5462
@camilatakao5462 4 жыл бұрын
i agree, no interpretation e no facial expression (i don't like her exectuion too).
@tachibanayu
@tachibanayu 4 жыл бұрын
@@camilatakao5462 i love lala's execution though😂
@annan583
@annan583 4 жыл бұрын
In an interview with the Olympic channel she says that she has a hard time focusing on artistry and facial expressions because she’s too busy working on technical skills.
@icebabyellen5495
@icebabyellen5495 4 жыл бұрын
why she did that much kabaeva?
@ld8080
@ld8080 4 жыл бұрын
Icebaby Ellen what do you mean? Kabaeva’s energetic presence or her elements?
@icebabyellen5495
@icebabyellen5495 4 жыл бұрын
@@ld8080 backscale pivot
@ld8080
@ld8080 4 жыл бұрын
Icebaby Ellen well, I thought it was quite common among other athletes... but okay)
@Vip-COP
@Vip-COP 4 жыл бұрын
As I sayed...her body skills are terrific, but her execution is sucks... the apparatus handle is not that clear too. Very clumsy.!!
@giannimariasarraferraris1748
@giannimariasarraferraris1748 4 жыл бұрын
U always write 720 back scale pivot but these are clearly 360
@ClematisRGVideos
@ClematisRGVideos 3 жыл бұрын
Hello! You're right, it's because it's theoretical difficulty and Kramarenko showed she could do 720° backscale. However it's true I should have put them in orange and not in blue.
@giannimariasarraferraris1748
@giannimariasarraferraris1748 3 жыл бұрын
@@ClematisRGVideos anyway good job!!!!!!
@ClematisRGVideos
@ClematisRGVideos 3 жыл бұрын
@@giannimariasarraferraris1748 I obviously will be more careful when making the reviews ;)
@giannimariasarraferraris1748
@giannimariasarraferraris1748 3 жыл бұрын
@@ClematisRGVideos u have already done a great job!!!
@МаріяХимич-л3м
@МаріяХимич-л3м 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's dishonest, you take Lala's performings from Miss Valentine, Krystyna Pohranychna's performings, you take from diferrent competitions, where she didn't prepared.
@Maarjaanaa
@Maarjaanaa 4 жыл бұрын
this is not a perfection, I think this hard working girl doesn't have a good coach, sorry for her
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