CLG Is the Reality Check of the LCS | Facecheck S04E15

[@G4TVesports]

Which 3 LCS teams are going to Worlds?

[@timdiaz1981]

EG TL 100T

[@tenki_]

DIG for sure

[@kpal17]

CLG EG 100T

[@jerrywaldh8621]

100t TL EG sorry C9 and CLG fans its just not happening

[@Alskdjaa1]

EG, CLG, TL, all 3 will fail in groups

[@kpal17]

yes they are back. the Dgon the mediator LS the preacher and Dom the tian lover

[@SauceyCos]

dont forget certified BDS Hater

[@Reign274]

Hoon lover*

[@stokes7227]

ChrisTian

[@bomnitoperro9422]

Ls the monger

[@dailyfightvideos4269]

30:04 anyone know what LS is referring to?

[@callumanon3917]

I was a huge fan of huni in his glory, he inspired me to play top lane and watch pro games, his time NA completely destroyed his legacy and it was disgusting to see

[@DarkDaiske141]

When huni and fnc peaked at worlds and when Huni and reignover first went to NA on immortals and made people worry about TSM winning and their win ratio. Great times

[@dcxserf1827]

Huni was a force. Like when your team was going to go up against Huni/Reignover it was a mountain they had to climb. Huni was an obstacle you had to get better than to compete or even hope to slow him down. It really dragged the skill sets up and helped to make the region more competitive in the top lane.

[@kjellroger9070]

Glad to have you back. And I'm willing to bet atleast 3 western teams will make it out of groups at worlds this year! Year of the Duck is still in play

[@zennychu]

I want to believe but Im expecting year of the cuck tbh

[@xDiminishx]

Alright guys, first of glad to have you guys back So one of my favorite moments of Huni’s career (I started watching after the C9 semi finals run) was when Clutch lost to TL (I believe) and Huni started crying and Damonte defends his boi Huni in the interview and saids to go on twitter and write something nice to him. Me being emotionally driven go create a twitter (I never had one) just to wish Huni well. So Huni is the reason I have a twitter… YUP TY Huni…

[@brammutje15]

best mid from pcs has to be toyz tho, win worlds season 2, become a international drugs kingpin. thats insane career

[@bishoplombard9283]

Man I missed y’all. Good to see LS

[@zanderwakefield4201]

Hey what did LS type in twitch chat

[@jimgu2578]

Glad to see Facecheck back!

[@isaiaheads6327]

Dgon and ls trying to talk about the future of the lcs and dom is like hoon go brrrr

[@intifadayuri]

Overwatch death as an esport was very easy to predict. Overwatch league didn't ocurred organically, they just throw a lot of money into an artificial enviroment for investors, then when the game went bad all of the OWL pros just left because they didn't cared that much from the beginning

[@umphfr3ak]

LS is confusing correlation with causation.

[@matthewandrews1653]

With regards to TL, superteams like this very rarely ever work, there's a reason that there are star players and role players. Star players usually believe the game should be played around them and you can only make the most out of them if you're able to commit resources. Having 4 or 5 players that either need or are used to having resources for them to succeed means that they either have to relearn what they're doing or (the thing that happens usually) it creates friction in the team as they will argue over who should have resources, be the carry etc. It's happened a lot in other Esports like CSGO, Astralis from 2018 to 2020 were one of the most dominant teams ever but it wasn't because they had a load of superstar players, they had good players at their roles and commitment and belief in a specific play system. They had some really good players and Dev1ce was quite clearly a star player but the reason the others were so good was because they knew when they had to take up playing the more supportive elements of the team in order to set others up for success. Unfortunately you can't have that on a team where you've put 5 players together with big egos. No one will want to take a back seat support role even if it would make the team function better.

[@blobitz9648]

The thing is though, TL might be the most balanced superteam of all time. Bwipo, Hans, Corejj and Santorin all have played the majority of their careers not being the main focal point. They are literally the exception to the idea that you can't make the most out of them if you don't commit resources and yet they still aren't that impressive so it's kinda sad.

[@gadgas6905]

i cannot believe that i surived my mental and 2nd covid to see another episode of facecheck

[@frencher2306]

tbh spica swordart playing together might be ok bc swordart wouldnt have to worry about coach zhang stealing from him anymore!

[@rahulpuppala9571]

hunis clutch gaming gaunlet run was a highlight of his career imo

[@jurredenotter3406]

Lets gooooo it's back!!

[@tianolamas7832]

Clg time stamps is at 15:00

[@lukenuke8991]

Bruh that s5 fnc was one if my favorite teams to watch play ever

[@Tyysst]

I am so curious now what was put in chat at 30:14 that caused Dgon to sober up for a sec.

[@supercow376]

Saying CLG is using "known quantity players" is such a lazy take. Have you been paying attention? Palafox, Luger and Poome are all either young or pretty green to the LCS, while Dhokla only played for about a year (and didn't even look bad).

[@cobblegames]

Dhokla Overview Results [e][h]Counter Logic Gaming Dhokla Player Information Name:Niship Doshi Nationality:United States United States Born:July 17, 1997 (age 25) Status:Active Role:Top History 2016-12-?? - 2016-12-??Flexqueued 2017-04-?? - 2017-04-??CruiseControl 2017-06-?? - 2017-10-??Sin Gaming 2018-01-03 - 2018-05-30OpTic Gaming Academy 2018-05-30 - 2019-12-03OpTic Gaming 2019-12-03 - 2020-11-28TSM Academy 2021-01-06 - 2021-01-12Not Academy Team 2021-01-12 - 2021-03-18SolaFide Esports 2021-05-14 - 2021-06-15Wildcard Gaming Red 2021-06-15 - 2021-10-27Team Liquid Academy 2021-11-30 - 2022-06-07CLG Academy 2022-06-07 - PresentCLG

[@nyadam_uwu]

Huni and the Clutch gaming worlds run was probably a highlight of his later years

[@K9WoofWoof]

AND WE BACK LETS GOO

[@kaseykiel9409]

Favorite huni movement is on fanatic the face cam with the little shoulder shuffle

[@theophilevictoria5592]

IVE BEEN WAITING FOR DGON OPTIMISM ESKETIT

[@dipn6243]

Dgon I seen you casting APAC valorant glad the boys are back together

[@dipn6243]

oh damn he talked about it so now I don’t feel special knowing where he was

[@lettucehunt3723]

spica and swordart on up would be INSANE LOL

[@ericpenner7749]

I can't believe we back. Let's go clg!

[@infpail7232]

Jo’s edit of the gnar play got me ngl

[@whisky_cat]

clg was also having winning games last splits that they just threw for no reason. also, i had a dream of a clg announcement of ls coaching behind the scenes xD

[@Xind0898]

Can anyone update me with Hoon thing? what is the drama? I'm kind of out of the loop heare

[@scottmoore7539]

Ultra Prime with Spica would be so fun to watch

[@loxi9]

My favorite trio, Dominic, Ellis, and Deacon

[@isaiaheads6327]

Has ls talked about the fearless drafting? I’m wondering what he thinks about it

[@brotkruemel99]

I think somewhere he mentioned its a good idea, which makes sense since its very close to the idea of draft format he had thought about earlier and mock drafted with caedrel before

[@Reign274]

Imagining TL with Bwipo/River/Nisqy/Hans/Core playing around bot lane.

[@Captur86]

Imagine Impact/Korean Jungler/Jojopyun/Korean ADC/CoreJJ and Kkoma as Coach

[@khalidwaleed3150]

i miss this show soo much

[@Nonxsn]

That last guy in the thumbnail gonna give me nightmares ffs

[@KaycCal]

I don‘t get why they upload it to the G4TV

[@shengburger2484]

Welcome back dgon

[@MichaelP1234]

WE BACK

[@orionmilbury4817]

I would love for c9 to make it. I cope by saying they missed the first super week I know they have problems besides just that cope, they aren’t winning games clean it’s usually just toooo sloppy

[@12ARedSon]

The boys 🥹

[@GanchGar]

no fing way its about time i thought it was over with

[@mattpatton9183]

“Uhm yeah, idk, yeah, really strange really strange, I just don’t know what’s going on.” Who am I?

[@Bartimusable]

You can't have salary caps in the US without an actual players union.

[@ricardopereira8450]

7'5 it's like what? 3 washing machines? 50 big macs?

[@codycarroll5866]

I think Huni is doing fine legacy for a couple million?

[@iiOmen]

Missed this

[@MrTweedg87]

Great to see the boys back, such a funny episode. Hadn’t seen Dgon or LS in ages! Hope you’re all doing well.

[@lucky4the4turtle]

What did LS type in chat?

[@realjackyoung]

i love this show

[@lucaskrome3914]

tsm should win content creator OTY

[@Gsyekd]

FINALLY

[@vondoplays1630]

TL Spica plz

[@Robbybobby_]

Canadian supports> USA supports

[@rishithapremachandra9911]

Even after watching dom for years he still makes me crack up. Im dying listening to dom

[@emceemikey]

join me in rooting against CLG all the way through worlds

[@Mikurusenpai]

Based ImperialHalal

[@EclipsaMyrtenaster]

Didn't overwatch died like a year after its release or something? I remember all of my friends talking about it and my youtube was full of overwatch content and like a year later, it just went like it wasn't even a game. Still forget that it is game until someone mentions it lol

[@disturbed1734]

That game just got overhyped because of all the awesome porn it inspired when it got released.

[@kenny9357]

Dom criticizing TLs mid jungle for being passive seems unfair. Santorin always looks for early plays everywhere on the map.

[@Elena-gj6ow]

As a duo they are on the passive side tho. They have poor 2v2 plays. I put that on Bjerg personally, although he was better at pushing the tempo last week. Most of the season he's been holding both Santorin and Core back.

[@flavoracid]

Get RatEARL on the fucking show.

[@amatusanathema]

Holy mah man dGon smurfin on this one

[@umphfr3ak]

LS is such a hater. Huni should be respected regardless how the end of his career ended. He's 1000 x's better than LS will ever be. Huni always had fun and gave it his all. He wasnt the best the last few years but he deserves respect, especially from a league "expert" and personality that lives and breathes the game.

[@GrzeLu7]

The voicecrack xD

[@joelout]

the censoring really takes away alot from the video. Really poor editing

[@imeverywhere629]

Ok now I only need The Jungle to come back and we're set

[@ayh4968]

LFG

[@Lefthandrightband]

Why do they look like homeless ppl

[@varunkohli6016]

Idk why TL let go of Jensen. Get an aggro jungler with him, and it was all set.

[@MrDespisedIcon]

Have you watched him play this split?

[@varunkohli6016]

@@MrDespisedIcon I don't think that matters when it comes to their decision of letting him go back in November. He was their best performer at worlds last year. It was weird they dropped him just because Bjerg was up. Taking a split off likely doesn't help with continuity.

[@mee7er]

He took a season off and he was training to transition into ADC before that. I don’t think he looks that bad for someone who hasn’t been playing pro mid for almost 6 months.

[@AmatrielG]

I have not watched any game of LCS this split. The content of the league is bland, the top teams are a dissapointment . Ever since LS was kicked out of the league, C9 pulled the plug on the entire enviroment. It is really sad to think about it :/

[@crazzerss]

Made ist past

[@Pineapplelesspineapplepizza]

LS having nothing good today about Huni and his career, who yes had some very low low, as said by Dom. But at the same time LS literally blowing/hyping up Fudge. Someone who will never hit Huni’s highs. Really mind boggling. He had nothing I mean nothing good today. Even a “eh he had a good run from S5-S8.” Would of been fine. I’m an LS fan but dude at times is so blindsided by his current gamer candy. Nemesis, Crownshot, Fudge….ect

[@iplayvarsitygolf9592]

If LCS was a concentrated league, with only 3 teams competing for the title every year. LS would say that there is no competition, which isnt healthy for the league. Now that a team is competing… it’s a joke that doesn’t lead to anything. It’s the better teams fault? I’m sorry I just see no consistency in that analysis

[@ruiribeiro3410]

The problem is they are not competing because they are getting much better, the star studded teams are just playing worse. And that is not good, cause when they get to international events they Will be slaughtered

[@andyhuynh2625]

CLG got better. Top teams got worse. That doesn't mean there's more competition LOL. Good for CLG. But in terms of wanting the best for the region. It's not good that the top teams are worse. Which means the region is worse as a whole.

[@mee7er]

You’re not seeing a problem with a league where the first place team fields two rookies and loses two of their lanes every game? You don’t think there’s huge holistic issues within the system when rosters like TL and C9 are middling at best?

[@murqouttt8188]

its not c9 doing good so they dont care

[@Captur86]

If TL kept Impact, got Jojopyun and CoreJJ is still there, imagine the possibillities, you could pitch high rated korean players to join LCS to join an NA Korean Team, I mean even Faker would consider it a little bit right? 😅

[@mee7er]

As usual EU seed 1 and one other EU team will surprise us and make it into semi or get really close in quarters. But I have zero faith in NA this year. EG is spunky but Jojo will get skill checked like at MSI and bot lane’s weak laning will be a huge liability especially if the bot pool stays the same for world’s.

[@disturbed1734]

That must be some good EU grade copium you have on you.

[@glistazpetem]

Wokege

[@tenki_]

Bjergsen wasn't passive the last time he played, it's definitely something that was imposed on him, either he feels that he just needs to play back in order to let his teammates shine or he's actively being held back by his teammates or the coaching staff, the last time he played he was two-tricking TF-Zilean all the way to the LCS title, him and Spica were just all around the map winning games by themselves, i have no idea what happened with him, he clearly still knows how to carry games this season but he's not playing to do that anymore it's the exact opposite problem Jensen has, he can't help himself and plays mechanically demanding champions that can carry games but he's simply not good enough to do so

[@rockylee943]

Or hes just bad.

[@mee7er]

How is playing TF and Zillian not passive? They’re literally lose lane-win game champs. He’s always been a pretty passive dude. That’s why he saw the most success when paired with a very lane dominant lane somewhere else on the map he can support. And in theory that should be bot for TL but they never play around that lane. I hope Hans gets to go back to EU after grabbing the bags ‘cause he’s absolutely wasted in this league.

[@tenki_]

@@mee7er how is TF a passive champion? his whole thing is moving around the map

[@vistington3145]

First 👍

[@beldaras6787]

Maybe Im completely wrong here, I think c9 might try and pickup spica tbh. Hes another NA talent that can replace mr loses all smite fights.

[@bobasquid3339]

Im going to get recked here. But LoL is much better on a good powered Android tablet than PC.

[@dandarr5035]

not really that spicy of a take tbh. While I unironically look down on mobile "gaming", Riot is clearly putting a lot of effort into Wild Rift. Just look at some of the proposed preseason changes for PC LoL; a couple of those, namely the visible patience ranges for Jungle camps and expanded pings, are things that have been in Wild Rift for a while now.