Cliffe Knechtle Debates: When Is Abortion Justified?

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@venab5815 2 ай бұрын

I was raped at age 13. My thinking at 13yrs old. It's not the baby that raped me it was the man that did. I made up my mind I was going to give birth and then allow open adoption because I was to young and I wanted my baby to be loved unconditionally without any hate towards him or her because of what baby's father did me. My baby didn't make it . I had a miscarriage. This is just me and my past and what I went through. For me I can't abort any of my kids raped or not.

@elinahjarpe7162 2 ай бұрын

What a wise 13 year old. I am however sorry that you were ever forced into a situation that no child should have to go through ❤ Know that you are loved by a God who will never leave your side ❤

@samsEpicart 2 ай бұрын

amen

@Dryer. 2 ай бұрын

I'm sorry to hear all of that, and I really hope God gives you blessings you can not imagine. However, have you ever met anyone who was in the same situation as you that got an abortion, and if you did, what were your thoughts?

@Herkules215 2 ай бұрын

Jesus Christ will notice and consider what you have done madame, very wise and correct decision … why you Baby didn’t make it - only god knows, but at least you didn’t judged and killed a baby. Gods bless

@dreamrelaxation7239 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing your experience. I'm a male but regardless, I can't imagine that situation. I have two sisters. If God forbid they were in that situation, my words would be, "don't abort, give me my nephew/niece". I don't think a child should be aborted because of rape. Do what you must to the rapist, but spare the child.

@marcusbartlett939 2 ай бұрын

Babies are innocent so there's no justification for that eve

@marcusbartlett939 2 ай бұрын

Ever

@Robyn-l7v 2 ай бұрын

God knows you before you are ever in the process of being born. Your not killing just a baby your killing Gods creation. God was to ask you why you killed his creation ? I would not want to try to answer or try to justify that.

@TboneWTF 2 ай бұрын

@surxf564 " but you don't believe that we have a creator?" What is your evidence that there is a creator? You have none. @@Robyn-l7v "God knows you before you are ever..." You first have to provide evidence that your god is real. Good luck.

@loser9336 2 ай бұрын

if you truly believe that the fetus is a baby from contraception, then there should be no exceptions for incest or rape. why should there? nothing has fundamentally changed in the womb just because of how it got there, it is still a baby. how do you reconcile with this marcus?

@cullenboswell5869 2 ай бұрын

@@TboneWTFCliffe has really good debates on the existence of God. Please watch, God bless you!

@Robyn-l7v 2 ай бұрын

God knows us before we ever born or in that process. It doesn't matter what stage.

@TboneWTF 2 ай бұрын

Why do you think your god is real? Thank you.

@robinrobyn1714 2 ай бұрын

Well said, my fellow Robyn.

@robinrobyn1714 2 ай бұрын

@@TboneWTFYou mean OUR God. The same God that you are pathologically fixated on.

@TboneWTF 2 ай бұрын

@@robinrobyn1714 What evidence can you provide to prove YOUR god is real? I will gladly accept anything other than biblical quotes, personal experiences and claims of miracles. Good luck my friend.

@robinrobyn1714 2 ай бұрын

@TboneWTF OUR GOD. The one that you are pathologically fixated on and asking about.

@eveyjd 2 ай бұрын

Those pro abortion forget that they were once fetus. Should be thankful that their parents kept them alive started from time they were conceived.

@L0yalEcho 2 ай бұрын

I know right! We were all a fetus and they think that killing an on going developing child isn’t killing someone!

@albaraka7519 2 ай бұрын

@@L0yalEcho Of course abortion ends a life. But it is the woman's body and her choice. Surely you wouldn't appreciate it if someone else used your body without your consent.

@albaraka7519 2 ай бұрын

And you should be thankful you have rights protecting you from having your body used without your consent.

@yuvia1452 2 ай бұрын

@@albaraka7519 the vast majority of women get abortions because they find it easier to end a human life and cover up their own poor decisions. the percentage of women who get abortions due to being victims of r *** or inc *** are just 1% of cases. that's still horrible, but even within that minority of cases, it is never justifiable to punish the baby for the crime of the father. killing the baby would only be a double victory for the offender. if she doesnt want the baby, its better to give it up for adoption than to deny its right to live. studies confirm 80% of women who have abortions deeply regretted it afterwards. and as for pregnancies that put the mother's life in danger, ending the pregnancy to save her life is actually NOT considered an abortion. for her life to be in danger, she would have to have an ectopic pregnancy, but that would require the egg to just be an embryo WITHOUT having reached the uterus yet. and without a uterus, theres no way for the baby to grow or live (to become a fetus). abortion is defined as terminating the life of a fetus that would have lived otherwise. and treatment for ectopic pregnancies are for eggs that cant grow or live either way, thus, they dont count as abortion. because of that, any licensed doctor will tell you that abortion is NEVER medically necessary.

@moczs 2 ай бұрын

@@albaraka7519You agreed it is a killing a human being, therefore murder because that person didn't commit crime. It is therefore no longer justifiable

@BrianMills-bn8wo 2 ай бұрын

I love you Cliff but I STRONGLY disagree that abortions are justified if it’s out of incest or rape. A baby can always be given to an adoptive family if the victim doesn’t want it and it’s not the babies fault it was conceived by incest or rape. It’s Murder. No way around it no matter the reason.

@seeyoubestie 2 ай бұрын

i dont think he ever said he supported abortion in that scenario. he just said it was a tough question while still implying that he was also pro life in that case

@BrianMills-bn8wo 2 ай бұрын

@ Well what I heard and saw was he didn’t really say no to the girl when she brought up rape and incest conception. He said that’s another story.

@drjoe71 2 ай бұрын

I like Charlie Kirk's response to this sort of question. He said "In one hand I have an ultrasound of a baby conceived lovingly and in the other I have a baby conceived by rape. Can you tell me which one is which?" The answer is, you can't. Both babies are made in the image of God and as you said, if a child is really unwanted then they should be given up for adoption. Not murdered. Also, rape and incest is a very very small portion of abortions. Using a small unfortunate circumstance to justify the whole of abortion is stupid.

@PlasmaPro8 2 ай бұрын

Agree

@EarthAuto 2 ай бұрын

Listen carefully in what he said. He said that Christ has compassion on people who were in some horrible situations. He never said that abortion was justified in those horrible situations, he said that Christ had shown compassion over the situation. Think about it, if someone you cared about committed abortion, only to find out afterwards that she was a r*pe victim, wouldn't you just want to forgive and comfort her? Yes, it's murder but it's traumatising too

@meathead2676 2 ай бұрын

Exodus 21:22-24 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then you shall give life for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot. No matter the Exceptions..

@funnygaming2672 2 ай бұрын

it also say if she lost the fetus it just a fine ...

@elinahjarpe7162 2 ай бұрын

@@funnygaming2672Where? I tried to find it but couldn't

@RustyCog 2 ай бұрын

@@elinahjarpe7162in the same chapter, it says that if men fight and accidentally strike a woman causing her to go into labor, then they will be fined and if the child is harmed it goes eye for eye tooth for tooth, life for life

@gee3591 Ай бұрын

@@RustyCogit says if the child is killed then he shall be put to death. Life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth

@RustyCog Ай бұрын

@@gee3591 excactly

@polliwobble 2 ай бұрын

16:39 the subtitles say "God gives that bundle of souls and salt in the morning with coffee" 😆

@jah9253 2 ай бұрын

One of the problems with rape is that when the woman aborts the baby the rapist typically gets off free with no punishment. Instead, the child is the victim in this situation. It is a terrible predicament for the girl/woman. But aborting the child does nothing good for her, and typically there is lifelong trauma to her from her decision.

@Robyn-l7v 2 ай бұрын

@@jah9253 No one gets off free. That guy who did that will be held accountable by God.

@mirandahotspring4019 2 ай бұрын

No one gets off rape because the woman had an abortion! What nonsense!

@MonkeyDIvan 2 ай бұрын

There is trauma regardless. It's just about choosing the lesser of two evils; and abortion is the lesser evil. Stop this bullshit pretence of thinking that the woman choosing to go through with the pregnancy is suddenly going to make things better. In most cases, it will result in the continued trauma of both the woman and the child.

@ChantalvanMourik 11 күн бұрын

Amen

@mirandahotspring4019 11 күн бұрын

What nonsense! If the rape is reported and a rape kit test done it doesn't matter if the fetus is aborted or not. The evidence still exists.

@QXr30 13 күн бұрын

I am an unwanted child. I was born into a prolife christian family. I have first hand knowledge that no one, not even the most prolife Christian’s want unwanted children. Imagine the confusion of a young child when they’re treated like nobodies, invisible to the family. Imaging watching siblings receiving gifts while you’re forgotten. Imagine being held back bc you weren’t allowed to show up the real children. Why would you do that to a child? Where’s the morality in bringing a kid into the world then not care for them? I’ve struggled with depression and thoughts of self harm since childhood. Is that your gods will? Prolife is the most selfish, self centered movement around. It’s the most important issue around until you have to get off the lazy boy. Abortion isn’t murder, bringing kids into this world and making them invisible is murder. Look up the issues of unwanted children before you fall for this sick idea.

@doggyhouz 2 ай бұрын

If potential is based on human value it is dangerous. If someone says your race determines your potentially being a likeable human you can see how that can get adjusted. Life is Life

@EthanWang-l3k 2 ай бұрын

Unequal parallel

@kellymccartney659 Ай бұрын

all life has value, even growing n the womb, no matter what stage they're at

@PRINCEofNONE 2 ай бұрын

For those who are hardcore on the zero abortion policy regardless of reason, I had the scriptures explained to me once in a manner that really gave me grace for people like Cliff. Throughout scripture we see God providing laws that course correct his people to him. Jesus, being a great example, comes along and brings in the reigns even tighter. God originally told his people not to murder, Jesus comes along and says if you hate someone that is just as bad as murder. Cliff is talking to numerous people who have no reason to agree with where he stands. Getting someone to take a small step toward you in common ground is much more effective than dying on your hill. Personally, I’ll die on this hill with you. But if I can get the masses to come closer, I’ll take that too. Saving 50/75% more lives is still a win.

@McGoofy1001 2 ай бұрын

0:00 abortion is only okay in the situation where the child inside the womb has passed away already (miscarriage), AND the mother's life is at risk.

@pcdeltalink036 2 ай бұрын

I don't consider that abortion at that point as the baby is already dead.

@McGoofy1001 2 ай бұрын

@pcdeltalink036 it's the same process. Literally called a medical abortion.

@pgpython 2 ай бұрын

what about if its a young child and her body is not ready or if there is high likelihood of death

@KRAT0S_son_of_zeus Ай бұрын

@@pgpython thats a good question i will look into

@KRAT0S_son_of_zeus Ай бұрын

@@pgpython you should make every effort to save both of them at all costs even if that means a premature surgical birth

@pierrelandry9613 2 ай бұрын

What Mother Theresa didn’t say was “Please pass laws preventing abortion”.

@Robyn-l7v 2 ай бұрын

@@pierrelandry9613 the point was?

@pierrelandry9613 2 ай бұрын

@ The point is that the political battle about abortion is doing more damage than good. Our government is not a theocracy.

@Robyn-l7v 2 ай бұрын

@@pierrelandry9613 How long did you discover that ?

@pierrelandry9613 2 ай бұрын

@@Robyn-l7v Cliffe recognizes that anything goes for the relativist. As atheism continues to gain ground in our country, so will the worldview of relativism. The real issue is not abortion rates. That is only a symptom of the real problem.

@Robyn-l7v 2 ай бұрын

@@pierrelandry9613 you didnt answer the question. Matthew 24 is when and how it will get worse by that time abortion wont be an issue.

@A.IDebates Ай бұрын

Unborn babies have a soul. The issue is atheists don’t believe in the spiritual world.

@aimee7083 Ай бұрын

The scientific consensus around the world is that life begins at conception.

@Maksie0 27 күн бұрын

What does that mean, "life begins"? A sperm cell and egg cell are already alive.

@aimee7083 24 күн бұрын

@ and when the sperm and egg come together, they create a brand new life. A new, unique DNA sequence that’s never existed before and will never exist again. It’s basic biology, babe.

@charlesincharge427 23 күн бұрын

@@Maksie0 Human life. As Cliffe said in the video above, a sperm on its own will never grow to be a human. Likewise, neither will an egg. But when sperm and egg join and are allowed UNINTERUPTED development, a human life is produced.

@thetruthseeker-hk2kq 2 ай бұрын

When the woman egg becomes fertilized, that when the spark of life begins just like the spark of life of the universe . And the creation of this life at that moment the SEX of that life either Male or female and since it becomes a life, a spirit is given to that life. So it's a life not just because the first few weeks it's not thinking yet or there's not a heartbeat yet it's a life because the living God has placed a spirit upon that life, and all life is a gift from God. So as we grow, and learn what is right and wrong from morals and values good or bad truth from lies we have to accept which path to take to either learn about God or a different path without God. One will lead to salvation the other will not

@Robyn-l7v 2 ай бұрын

@@thetruthseeker-hk2kq God knows before that process starts.

@shanevassallo 2 ай бұрын

When was this filmed?

@Bible_Alive 2 ай бұрын

The first debate was about an year ago, same with the last. The 2nd one was a few a while back. I think like 10 years ago.

@Slowbutsteadygains Ай бұрын

where do we see your travel schedule cliff? i want to meet you. thanks

@jonathanwilson3466 2 ай бұрын

So your argument is no body can tell a women what to do with their body ! So then who are we to question gods authority that like telling god he made a mistake when he created you in his perfect image we must humble our selfs before Jesus Christ he the Alpha, and the Omega of all things

@Trucking4Jesus 2 ай бұрын

Well not everybody thinks the way we think brother, these woman aren't Christians therefore they do not understand our concepts.

@moczs 2 ай бұрын

Their stances are solely based off of "woman doing ANYTHING they want to compensate oppression from patriarchy" which is idiotic if you think deeply about it.

@lisageoffrey2761 2 ай бұрын

I personally understand your perspective. Especially coming from a biblical point of view, yes all life is valuable-despite how it was conceived. However, my main concern is what “life” people are focusing on. Often times I see individuals focus too much on the life of the child rather than on the mother herself. I often witness the lack of empathy people give due to their stone-cold beliefs on the preservation of life; especially that of an unborn child. It’s hard to wrap my head around how some people can be so adamant about their beliefs on such things, yet discard the woman’s. Me personally, if I was in a situation where I was ever taken advantage of in a non-consensual way, that would be severely traumatic; I can only imagine what these other women go through. I feel as though I cannot fully put into words the pain and internal/external struggle a person would feel after being ripped of their dignity and safety. Is it so hard to sympathize with those who endure such pain? Why is it that we are so quick to pass judgement onto others without acknowledging their hurt? Yes, we may have our beliefs on what is right and wrong, however that should not be the forefront of our Christianity. Love and comfort should take that place. I don’t think Jesus’s first instinct was to chastise those who went against him (correct me if I’m wrong). If a 12 year old girl is r*ped the first response as Christians is to support that child and help her through a vicious trauma.

@mirandahotspring4019 2 ай бұрын

The bible also says a man's sed must not be spilled. Before you start making laws about a woman's body how about making one's for men as well. Make masturbation a crime as well! That's killing potential babies!

@saviofialho143 2 ай бұрын

@@mirandahotspring4019 In that sense, every unfertilized fertilization would be a crime either. The crime is the murder, not that you did not fertilize.

@lacucuracha6 Ай бұрын

The topic of abortion is so hard because ultimatly we are not the real judges of anything,but I want to express my opinion on the matter: As a human being I firmly believe that the only case that abortion is exapteble is in cases of rape,plus if u dont have the economic possibility to raise the child.I truly believe and I am willing to die for this believe: God is the only true judge on the matter.For a child is alive in the moment that he or she is consepted as clearly God defies it in Jeremiah 1:5: “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations." I want to emphasize the first part of this passage.God Bless us all!

@TasticAdventures Ай бұрын

18:09 But wouldn’t letting your wife survive and kill ur child or her child for her life be selfish and would he murder of a child. People say “can I abort the child if it’s at risk of my life or its own life” I always say no…I never realized I’m contradicting 👇🏼 I always used the argument of “If I’m in danger and my child or children, choose me because we can recreate together and be there to help each other grieve and heal.” I’ve made myself stuck, and I can’t get out of it…One way goes against God by contradicting and the other side supports abortionist beliefs. Please someone help me, open my mind with scripture and logical thinking with God and help me grow, this is a very big topic that needs handled. God wants us to be able to defend his name and commandments and etc. I’m sore vexed with all this studying.

@chycmagnit04 17 күн бұрын

I'm forever thankful that it never came close to it, but my wife and I had the conversation that if it ever came down to having to choose to save her, or kill our child, that it will always be to save the child. This is really rough, and I'm 100% sure I'd have struggled to make that call if it had come to it despite a pre-decided resolution. For me, the reasoning is that if circumstances arose that threatened my wife then my first answer would be 'SAVE BOTH'... or at least do everything possible to save both. However, it would be no ones fault (kind of like a miscarriage through natural causes - ie nothing ridiculous like Thai kickboxing while pregnant) if my wife's life was threatened by carrying the baby. Alternatively, it would absolutely be murder all the same if we decided to kill someone (ie our baby) to save her life. I can never justify murdering (vs a justified killing) someone else just to save someone I care about. I cannot commit an evil to avoid an unfortunate situation. I couldn't kill some random stranger just to save my child or wife or brother/sister/father/mother. I COULD wax someone, as Cliffe used as an example, to prevent them from doing evil, though. Not sure if that helps. I realize it is counter to what you wrote, and I understand your perspective, but I just can't co-sign on killing a baby no matter what the upside is.

@TasticAdventures 14 күн бұрын

@@chycmagnit04 :/ So I raise my child alone or children? The church is commanded to help widows and widowers and etc but I don’t know. I’m celibate anyways but I like to know for others and just knowledge. I mean a child who is already here has got the chance to live, why would I not save my husband? And create more children and continue our family, I suppose yes it’s different when it’s birth and not an already existing child wouldn’t you agree?

@chrispine9788 2 ай бұрын

give the child up for adoption

@yeeyeeedits Ай бұрын

Wow I always learn so much from Cliffe

@crazydogdog2831 2 ай бұрын

When I say this, by no means do I want you to think I don’t have compassion for a woman that is raped, but if you abort that child… it’s still murder. You cannot punish the child for the father’s crime, the child is innocent and shouldn’t be held accountable for the death penalty.

@yomamas1559 15 күн бұрын

So would you force your 9 year old daughter to give birth

@crazydogdog2831 15 күн бұрын

@ Do you believe in science? If so then you should know that scientifically a human becomes a human on moment of conception immediately. Meaning that that child inside of the womb of a 9 year old is another human. Now obviously that doesn’t mean anything if you don’t value life but I do not know you therefore I cannot say or suggest your opinion. But on the extreme rare occasion a 9 year old child is able to carry and give birth to a baby, I wouldn’t be able to obviously give a clear answer because it’s a sensitive topic. But, with my God given morals I would still never punish the child inside of a womb with death because of the misfortune of my 9 year old daughter getting raped and becoming pregnant (if that’s even possible). Also, to stray away from what I said and head to an extreme example is a bit odd. Let’s stay on topic and go one by one. There is obviously a lot of sensitivity in the situation with abortion, but we can NEVER forget that the “thing” inside of a womb is not a random occurrence or something other than a human. It’s a human from conception, therefore it has meaning. The best answer I have is to pray and ask God for guidance. I’m sure it’s tough on a woman’s mental state to even question abortion. So I pray for all woman, ones that committed the act and ones that did not. Remember this, your mom birthed you. She could’ve been 9, does that take away your value?

@hmm4511 2 ай бұрын

What if the doctors find out that the baby is going to have a major disability? Like a mental one, where he's gonna be a "baby" for the rest of his life and cannot do anything on his own

@itaxevasixn8808 2 ай бұрын

Are you asking if its okay to murder the developmentally disabled? The answer is no.

@CheloFN153 2 ай бұрын

Science says that human life starts at conception

@Robyn-l7v 2 ай бұрын

@@CheloFN153 It starts when God knows you before you even start the process.

@CheloFN153 2 ай бұрын

@ I know but I am trying to explain it in the atheist perspective

@Robyn-l7v 2 ай бұрын

@@CheloFN153 I wouldn't. It's like God telling his people not to associate or inter marry with the people that occupied the land God was giving them. They would become a Snare or a stumbling block to them.

@bringemyoungpbuh4123 Ай бұрын

Growing, maturing cells are life. That starts at conception.

@squarevinyl 2 ай бұрын

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And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. BEWARE-----Global Health and Peace Initiative treaty / Digital Health Vaccine Certification ID-------BEWARE - BEWARE- UN "Pact for the Future" BEWARE- - IT HAS ALREADY BEGUN - 1 Corinthians 3:17-18 King James Version (KJV) 17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are. 18 Let no man DECEIVE himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. 19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness. - 1 Thessalonians 5 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. - Can you be DECEIVED into taking the MARK of the beast ? = YES - Revelation 19:20 20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he DECEIVED them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. - Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) - Revelation 13:14 - 14 And DECEIVETH them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. - Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. There is no pre-tribulation rapture.

@Ariel.smly48836 12 күн бұрын

This clip that is being reacted to is not real instead three or more clips where in the clip of cliff speaking it’s in respons to several other questions that have nothing to do with abortion that have been stitched together.

@Charrulez 2 ай бұрын

Jeremiah 1:5, "Before I formed you in the womb, I KNEW YOU..."! Meaning God knew your soul, had value AND purpose for you! Like I said in other videos, NOT my favorite street preacher since hes admitted to not understanding the Old Testament, obviously hasnt done enough study on the scriptures. Btw: I HATE this 6-8 week argument hes making. Its NOT Christian, obviously. With the combination of Jeremiah 1:5, which this man NEVER brings up, SCIENCE even claims life BEGINS AT CONCEPTION! Why? Because at conception, a new DNA begins seperate from either the mother or father. The Christian argument is in Jeremiah 1:5, in the Old Testament scriptures that this man himself has admitted to not understanding in the past.

@nsan48 2 ай бұрын

15:23 he agrees to it here. The reason he doesn't say it before is because he's waiting for the woman to show her stance on it.

@ZLUVCRUCE Ай бұрын

Exodus 21:22-25

@FW89cJwY398c 2 ай бұрын

the arguement that it's justified if the baby isn't viable to live without the mother yet is absurd; as if anyone is just some self-sustaining island in and of themselves who could live without other people. if anyone was just dropped in the wilderness, alone, with no support almost 100% of people would straight up die

@dreamrelaxation7239 2 ай бұрын

I don't know of any prochoice woman that if punched in the belly while pregnant, would want the perpetrator prosecuted for battery but not murder if she had a miscarriage, even before six weeks.

@mattyb5460 25 күн бұрын

My grand mother put my mother up for adoption at birth. She carried the seed of a man forcefully put inside her and carried baby to term in the early 50’s. When people get so sanctimonious about aborted babies from rape, I praise the lord that lady a who met in her 60’s did not believe that two wrongs make a right. It’s such a nuanced subject though, there are so many circumstances surrounding it I do not believe it’s the governments place to put absolutes on the table. We will all own have our judgement day.

@ForgetU-nz5yw 2 ай бұрын

Her comment about the flower. If i plant a seed expecting a flower to grow, but then i somehow destroyed that seed does that mean ove killed the flower? No it doesn't. But if that seed had started to sprout and i destroyed it, then i would have killed the flower... If a womans egg is destroyed or a mans sperm.is destroyed, thenits not murder. But... If that egg is fertile and has started to grow: Then thats murder.

@greyclaa 2 ай бұрын

People around the world and across our nation have a huge range of perspectives on when a human life becomes a person. Judaism and Christianity in Exodus 21 demonstrate a *huge* difference between an unborn human life and a born human life. And Jesus never contradicted that and never told his listeners unborn life should be preserved at all costs. He also never said Rome should create laws restricting it. Islam, Buddhism, and Hinduism each state or have practitioners who would argue a range of circumstances when it is not ideal but acceptable to end unborn life. Our own president elect in the United States has said the legality of abortion should be a choice for the state governments to make, removing the concept that abortion is an absolute moral question like murder is. No government leader would ever say the same about murder. So, as Cliffe asks, what do YOU feel is right or wrong about it? The students he dialogs with want to know his views ..but these are only *his* views. If you see it as wrong in all cases ..or some cases .. don't get one. Encourage legislation that reduces poverty and advances medical care and educates for birth control so families will be *able* to make choices that are pro-life and not simply pro-birth.

@jasminemaxwell583 2 ай бұрын

Can some one answer my question. I find myself always debating people with abortion and they always bring up the topic of SA. I never know what to say since that is such a big category but how would you respond when you are anti abortive?

@talleneagle1974 2 ай бұрын

It takes a week for the egg to attach to the uterine wall, the morning after pill stops attachment and prevents pregnancy so there's zero reason to abort because of SA. Many people including Cliffe believe life starts at conception, but life doesn't begin at conception. Only cell division begins at conception. A person can only live if they have oxygen and sustenance and that can only happen and that life can grow only when the egg attachment happens because you will then get sustenance and oxygen through the umbilical cord where your attachment to the mother gives you sustenance for life. A monthly menstrual cycle expelled any egg that's been fertilized or not so calling a fertilized egg a person is not scientific and therefore a monthly cycle would be scientifically a monthly murder cycle of any fertilized egg that didn't attach to the uterine wall. There's many different causes that would stop attachment including a hostile or toxic environment in the uterus due to drug abuse, toxic chemicals or consumption of harmful foods disruptive of hormones etc. There could be genetic mutation or other factors also so life only begins after uterine attachment which takes about a week after enough cell division and proper DNA to make it possible for life. Simply stating that life begins at conception is not scientific, the possibility of life begins at conception and every woman has a choice to stop it ethically by taking a pill to stop attachment to the uterine wall.

@solidarnosc14 Ай бұрын

when you plant a seed, you give the flower a chance to bloom. that flower might dry up, it might shrivel up, it might die. but you still gave it a chance. when you engage in sexual activities with another human being, you give a chance for another human to be born. why would you take away this opportunity for the flower (child) to grow, just because you dont want to give the flower water (take care of the child)?

@devankurmitra4118 2 ай бұрын

Cliff was dodging the question so hard on the second one.

@looft3793 2 ай бұрын

brotha he was waiting for the girls point of view first

@devankurmitra4118 2 ай бұрын

@looft3793 nah ,she was very clear and direct

@looft3793 2 ай бұрын

@@devankurmitra4118 yes she was, but thats not what i was trying to say lol

@emastermet609 2 ай бұрын

Bro what?

@AadityasinghThakur06 13 күн бұрын

but at the last he made it clear

@glaciatedluxray2849 15 күн бұрын

Dude you know this is out of context. If you watch the original video, cliffe talks about how it’s wrong. Also cliffe’s outfit in the original, he has a red sweater on. In this video, he doesn’t. This was cut out of context

@bellchan222 2 ай бұрын

Fetus =baby in womb ❤❤❤❤

@redbrickhustla86 2 ай бұрын

they like using words they dont understand so they dont have to see it as child

@Uriel-Septim. 21 күн бұрын

He really tried hard to make her think for her self and come to the conclusion on her own, in the end it seems like, what she was looking for the most, was his opinion.

@Beej1185 16 күн бұрын

As long as it has a heart.. it means it's living.. and abortion is just simply murder..

@auxmike718 28 күн бұрын

If people were abstinent until they got married, this would not probably even be hardly an issue!

@hacorn96 10 күн бұрын

cliffe could have easily answered her head on, after walking her through logic step-by-step. yes it's a human life. no, you don't automatically get extra rights to kill a human being, regardless of the difficulty of the circumstances. it's not "killing" it's "murder" as abortion is pre-emptive.

@collectibles4u 2 ай бұрын

According to the tour of my 11-year-old and 7-year-old isn't alive then they're not been born neither one of them come to the birth canal so maybe that is a problem with your Torah and look I'm not trying to be contentious but honest

@terriseaton3049 Ай бұрын

Research: Direct Correlation between an unwanted baby & torture, abuse, neglect & de@th. Which is better?

@MG-ot2yr Ай бұрын

It can't be murder if its lawful, murder is the unlawful taking of life.

@KRAT0S_son_of_zeus Ай бұрын

Gods law not human law

@Gottistgutund 15 күн бұрын

I think that's an uncharitable cut of cliff. Though I wish that he would have speaken more boldly you can see his opinion indirectly. He goes on somewhat like, abortion is not birth control. People say it's a human life after passing the birth control. So it's not a human life before...? I mean you could get where he stands

@Cowboy287 2 ай бұрын

Innocent bloodshed is never ok with God. He will have His revenge.

@MonkeyDIvan 2 ай бұрын

Lmfao, I'm trembling

@Cowboy287 2 ай бұрын

@ you should be. It’s not too late to repent and ask forgiveness my friend.

@toadynamite8141 2 ай бұрын

Except he had babies killed in old testament, explain please

@Cowboy287 2 ай бұрын

@@toadynamite8141 those were when God judged a people or place. He Has that authority. And I would bet those innocent children are in paradise. God is just and good in nature.

@DanyHoule 2 ай бұрын

Quand ont plantes un arbre ce n'est pas pur le déracinés

@DanyHoule 2 ай бұрын

Quand ont plantes un arbre ce n'est pas pour le déracinés

@42976675 Ай бұрын

What is the good news?

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

"The Catholic Church is responsible for this country's disgracefully barbarian anti-abortion laws, which should be repealed and abolished." -Ayn Rand- 1968

@hunterrb2 2 ай бұрын

Now we're to consider humans being called a piece of skin? Wow, rejecting God is displayed in ways we've never seen before. Only a human can produce another human being. Every one knows. Next thing that is left to be attacked is the definition of pregnancy? How sad must one be to call a gift from God something other than that. Those who are living today are enjoying that precious gift, yet many walk amongst us willing to take our gift of life from us. It takes a creator to make and give life. It takes a Savior to save lives. It takes a destroyer to destroy lives. All of us have a beginning and an end, life begets life. We are created in secrecy just as the Almighty God purposed it to be.

@Maksie0 27 күн бұрын

When a pregnant person wants it.

@Christlife-x1x 2 ай бұрын

Somebody altered and hyped up his voice that is the weirdest I've ever heard him sound that's almost like a disgrace to be honest

@Mrsright1989 9 күн бұрын

I don’t get why these people that by the way defend INNOCENT animals thinks like this about an INNOCENT BABY!!!

@p.j.simpkins8324 2 ай бұрын

Pregnancy should be like taking care of God's kingdom we all worship the Lord but we all await the Messiah according to the Bible in those whom did not believe in the one the Lord sent

@Khariwaters 20 күн бұрын

Beware of cliff saying pretty good after you finish speaking he’s about to destroy you with facts and common sense

@Dodothegreat. Ай бұрын

Jeremiah 1:5 “Before I formed you in the womb I knew" you are littrly killing some one god knew that murder in my mind

@toadynamite8141 2 ай бұрын

Guys i have a question, isnt Sperm also living organisms?

@julielawing777 2 ай бұрын

May The LORD bless all that you put your hands to... And may it all be for His Glory and Honor in Christ Jesus's Name The Lord Jesus Christ has delivered me from drug addiction, homelessness, abusive relationships, evil spirits (yes they're real) , sexual immorality, swearing, lying, stealing, laziness.. and even more. I give all the glory to Him. All praise and worship belong to God. He is real. He is bigger than any problem you face. He will meet you where you are at. Even right now. (Romans 10:13) For whosoever shall call upon The Name of The Lord shall be saved. The LORD is still fighting my battles for me and He will for you also. Keep strong in The Lord. Jesus Christ is LORD to The Glory of God The Father. I bless every reader of this comment in The Name of Jesus Christ

@kasiryefaighton8884 2 ай бұрын

I wish Moslems could debate just like this girl

@socialsigh 2 ай бұрын

Mother teresa was actually a terrible person who allowed sick people to suffer in the name of God.

@robinrobyn1714 2 ай бұрын

Somebody 's been listening to the unhinged rantings of Christopher Hitchens. 😅

@robinrobyn1714 2 ай бұрын

Nothing more terrible than murdering completely defenseless Human life ( abortion)

@socialsigh 2 ай бұрын

@robinrobyn1714 or I read it online somewhere. Who knows anything anymore.

@loser9336 2 ай бұрын

@@robinrobyn1714 he's a respected philosopher and british author that graduated from oxford in philosophy... what have you done lol?

@Robyn-l7v 2 ай бұрын

@@loser9336 You dont need a degree in Bible. All you have to do is read study seek ask God for understanding who gives to all without fault or sin.

@philjackman3734 Ай бұрын

In the UK we abort approx 500/600 babies ..A DAY .. 😱😱

@titiojack Ай бұрын

NGL... the blonde girl is cute.

@PaSawPaw 2 ай бұрын

For My people the moment we know we pregnant we worry so much that we going to have miscarriage because we love our baby so much because we know it is a gift from God.Even they are not develop yet or even one week pregnant long.they are humans because we are human who is not animal

@Herkules215 2 ай бұрын

Jesus Christ - father - forgive me- I am guilty ….😢

@wolf585gr2 Ай бұрын

The bible answer this clearly.......Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. [31] And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus.....so from the moment you conceive.....

@Cohonutz 2 ай бұрын

Making Apostasy Great Again

@superjumpbros64 2 ай бұрын

@seanbaveghens4937 2 ай бұрын

He is wrong. Honour your mother and Father. You have a cold or virus in your bidy. Does that have a right to kill you. It is up to a woman or decided what she wants to do with her body. That is freedom of choice. Kieth is wrong.

@tobykornreich2719 2 ай бұрын

So if you have sex and procure a child, is it a virus? is it a parasite? Is it less than you? What makes it less valuable than you? How can you say the one places for children to be formed inside of a woman is “Her body” when it’s clearly made from the beginning to be for someone else’s? Why when a pregnant woman is killed the person is charged for 2 murders? But not when you sacrifice your child to molech?

@emastermet609 2 ай бұрын

Cold isn't the same as a fetus. Don't be dishonest.

@luisdominguez1562 2 ай бұрын

Mind you buisness

@Kryll2k 2 ай бұрын

Your business*

@luisdominguez1562 2 ай бұрын

@ thank you ^