Cliffe Knechtle’s Best Debate (Is Jesus The Only Way?)

Join us for an engaging debate between Cliffe Knechtle and an atheist as they tackle fundamental questions about faith, reason, and morality. In this thought-provoking discussion, they explore whether faith can withstand skepticism, and delve into the implications of moral relativism versus objective standards.
Throughout the debate, Cliffe challenges the audience to consider profound questions: Can belief in God persist even when evidence seems lacking? How do we determine what is morally right without a divine foundation? These discussions are crucial in understanding our beliefs and values in a complex world.
Watch as Cliffe navigates these issues with clarity and insight, sparking deep reflection and inviting viewers to examine their own perspectives. Don’t miss this compelling debate on Give Me An Answer!
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[@2012jjoykutty03]

I used to be an athiest and arrogant like that too and would debate priest. One day I came across the verse Jeremiah 29:13 "You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart." I decided I am going to have an open mind and open heart and approach it. I got on my knees and said "I don't know if you exist, but if you do please show yourself to me" and genuinely meant it. I saw God and I can't deny the miracles he is done for me. I have been christian for the past 13 years and my life is so much better for it.

[@tyrellepogue9160]

i use to be and atheist also God revelations showed me the way

[@deactivatedchannel4362]

I am very much encouraged by your words, as i am sure many others are as well. May He bless you in ways that you have never thought of.

[@gahlwynfjorn3961]

That’s so beautiful!!!!! Praise God.

[@cassie-rin]

this is how I did it too! though I was more of a lukewarm christian who'd been lost because of other pagan beliefs, and i wasn't really that convinced of Him. one day, I really genuinely asked God to show himself to me and prove to me that He is really real. The way He showed up in my life was really undeniable and He is so consistent that I can't deny it any longer ❤️ i hope more people would just sit down and genuinely asked Him.

[@deactivatedchannel4362]

@@cassie-rin For real, praise God. He has made it really that simple and easy. God really made it an opportunity for all! Amen

[@777Witness]

Brothers and sisters. Please pray for me. For about 15 years I have been struggling with debilitating sickness that's made my life unberable. I am in my mid 30 and would love to still have streingth to serve my Savior and Lord. Jesus is my Healer. Thank you all 🙏🏻 Please also pray that God grants me strength to go through this valley with humility and thankfulness. Please also pray that the fire of Holy Spirit would be with me.

[@LsnyderRaiders]

Praying for you brother

[@CarlosVerdinOfficial]

Go carnivore diet. Pray. God is with you and it will take making different choices and doing more than you have thus far

[@calundoconteal6851]

We’re all praying for you God bless you and keep the holy spiritual connection strong

[@tannereubanks9353]

Stay strong, you have a purpose. The story you will tell will be far more meaningful than if you were healthy today. God is using you to do great things. And you will be rewarded in heaven.

[@nunca789]

So wish there were even more we could do to help!

[@nacho7368]

That fact that he is there asking that exact question shows that there is hope for him. "Can I still be saved? Is it worth it to keep looking?" I think he already knows the answer. Pray for our brother in Christ

[@virtual_bomber5698]

That is how I was viewing it, like his soul was crying out through his mind for something. (God)

[@riaandoyle8196]

Amen. He was desperate in those moments . Cliffe tried to show him he has faith ,it's just in the wrong object . He was crying out for help ! Hope everyone like him God wil send someone to .

[@ansn5108]

I can understand him. I think what I am going to need as proof is a supernatural experience, a vision or unmistakable voice of Jesus. I can't see that reading the bible would work for me because I don't understand it, I don't know how to read into what is meant. I don't understand why an all powerful God would sacrifice/have his son killed to save humanity, I just cannot make sense of that. Any suggestions will be much appreciated 🙏

[@Capn986]

@@ansn5108 pray and genuinely ask God to reveal himself. Pray and ask for faith. If God is not there, he couldn’t answer. He may answer directly in your heart. He may answer in the supernatural (I have seen prayers answered, including miraculous healing, life changes, and resurrection). The Bible is both simple and deep. Read John in “the message” translation for a modern simple read. Read proverbs to know how to live. Read acts in the “amplified” translation to understand the modern global church. Above all, find a knowledgeable friend to answer your questions. The Bible was written to different cultures at different times, and translated. It takes study to fully know some of it so lean on others that have done that work

[@vdussaut9182]

@@ansn5108Hi! The sacrifice of Jesus for the redemption of all humankind is a huge concept to wrap one’s mind around-even for many faithful Christians! I would suggest that rather than worrying about fully comprehending what it means (which will come in time with faithful study of scripture), that you first come to Jesus as He says to do in the Bible: as a “little child.” Meaning that you need NOTHING MORE than simple, innocent, humble faith in order to receive salvation. I would suggest that the very next moment you are alone, you fall to your knees, bow your head and close your eyes, and open your heart like a child’s, and just speak from your heart something like, “Jesus, I want to know you. I am struggling with my faith but in this moment I am going to trust you. I repent of my sins and want to be forgiven. Please be with me.” Literally just like that, the way a child would believe in something-with all the hope that it’s true but without full understanding. And if you do this, if you humble yourself in your doubts and take a tiny step of blind, innocent faith, and repent of your sins in the name of Jesus as Peter proclaims in Acts 2:38, He will be faithful to His promise of salvation. Acts 2:38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Romans 10:9-13 9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

[@cladzeus5423]

“Blessed are those who have not seen, and yet have believed” John 20:29

[@yourenotspecial3735]

That’s called being gullible

[@emmanuelmose3804]

​@@yourenotspecial3735faith 🙏

[@cladzeus5423]

@@yourenotspecial3735 be gone satan! it’s called faith! “Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow” Galatians 6:7

[@NM-cg5cy]

Amen

[@patrickgoodman4576]

Jesus was/is something else 😅

[@antarisalduin_tv2806]

As a former atheist who recently had revelation from Our Lord Jesus Christ. I say, we think to much, I was once like this man. Over processed things, over analyzed everything. The best advice I can give to people who are looking to know Jesus and are prepared to walk with the Holy spirit is, stop thinking, open your heart, and surrender. I think these 3 things are the hardest things to do for people like this man and the man I was before, Jesus gave me a new heart and I was born again. The main reason is arrogance, ignorance, but the main doubt comes through pride. This pride that you are your only master and nobody is above you, that knowing scientific jargon makes you superior in other words, your high horse. In order to accept Jesus you have to get off, get on your knees and literally surrender yourself, your life, your heart, your spirit and allow for Father the Son and Holy spirit to guide you. In the Bible it says "do not lean on your own understanding of the world for my ways are higher than your, and my thoughts are higher than yours" and that's it. That's the critical point, being able to say, I'm not worthy of you Lord, I'm broken, I'm a sinner, I can no longer do this on my own and I repent! that's when it happens when you profess it with your mouth and your words the holy spirit will decent upon you and fill your empty cup with love, peace and the gift of eternal life through Jesus Christ. Logic has no place in faith, because as Jesus said to his disciples "You believe in me because you see me, but imagine the faith one that does not see me need to have to believe in me" (paraphrasing for clearer understanding) in other words in order to have faith you need to be blind and slowly God will open your eyes to the truth and then one day it just makes sense, and everything you thought was impossibly, unbelievable, and questionable all of a sudden becomes clear as day, real as flesh. My spiritual journey with Jesus has been so short, no less than 2 months, but in this short time I have learned so much and I'm eager to learn more and to know Jesus more intimately so that I can have a closer relationship with Him. My journey goes back probably about 4 months ago when I started seeing Jesus everywhere, videos on KZbin, movie, people and one night around beginning of June this culminated in an overwhelming feeling that God was real and it brought me to my knees, I sat in my dark living room being crushed by the weight of life, I felt it and heard it in my thoughts "You are mine" I wept, like a baby, sobbing I looked up towards the heavens and professed it with my mouth "Lord Jesus I accept you as my Lord and Savior, I give you my life, I surrender to you for I cannot do this by my self any longer, save me from myself Lord, I turned my back on you for so many years and you never turned your back on me, I'm a sinner, and I repent, I repent Lord, I'm sorry." And that's when I felt that crushing weight lift from my shoulders and overwhelming sense of peace and love came to me and I physically felt His loving arms hug me at this point I was standing up hugging back and I tell you, it may sound ridiculous for many, but I telling you the truth, this is what happened. That day my life changed from depression, anxiety, guilt, self doubt, drugs, alcohol and everything I was engaged in left me. I like to think the old me is dead, because now the veil has been lifted, for I was blind and I was healed by our Lord Jesus Christ and now I see. He said follow me and I obeyed. This in my opinion is hard for atheists to follow because they are so used to think they have no master. But we do. LIsten to your heart if it's opened he will knock on the door all you have to do is let Him in. For he is the way, the truth and the life and I promise you if you walk with Him he will walk with you even in the darkest cave or highest mountain.

[@verdadabsoluta9756]

Great testimony! Thank you for sharing!

[@clairesallyroos9690]

Praise the LORD!! Welcome to the family, precious brother!! Your testimony brought tears to my eyes and joy to my heart!! May God bless you and continue to take you deeper with Him as you lean your whole self upon Him. 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@baddrandy]

Amen!

[@truincanada]

Exactly how quickly God can be Into your future. Wonderful testimony. Wonderful moment in time for you. Blessed be your now with Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. Thank you for sharing your testimony. Word.

[@guillaumepicart5395]

Exactly the same, people who born with this trust don't know how much the atheist are thinking, even tho they want to have faith. Its easy to laugh at this guy as i saw in the comments, harder to follow the christ and being patient with the others struggling apparently.

[@G6Tarantula]

This is what “not letting go of self” looks like and you’ll never understand the truth that way.

[@JESUSISMYEVERYTHING2]

Exactly people don't want to accept Jesus is the way thus puts all these arguments as as shield to get away with accepting God

[@G6Tarantula]

@@JESUSISMYEVERYTHING2 yep!

[@hildalaw7627]

@@JESUSISMYEVERYTHING2 mhm i bet there are people that even if jesus popped up in front of them they would think like they were tweaking and some hallcuination

[@calmnrelaxed]

He's confusing. Cliffe's patience in this conversation is impressive.

[@user-hr8dx9qw4n]

So Jesus is the only way and only believing and following him brings you salvation? Then why is he only appearing to a very small amount of people, and that 295k years after we humans came up in this world? He acted in a small area while all the Earth was already full of humans. Billions and billions of people never even had the chance to know him. And after he died, this religion spread over brutal military power in North Europe, in America , in parts of Asia and in Australia. Till today 2/3 of humans do not follow that religion, not because they are bad, but because they are socialized in other religions and convictions. A very bad strategy of a guy that offers the ONLY way and also a very unsuccessful way. Doesnt sound like the strategy of a god that created all universe and billions of galaxies with billions of solar systems in it. It sounds rather like a man-made invented local religion that made it to spread and needs several justifications.

[@calmnrelaxed]

@user-hr8dx9qw4n seems to me you know the answer to your question. One of the more interesting aspects to your diatribe is God accepts your position on how you see Him and will not force you to accept Him for who He is.

[@user-hr8dx9qw4n]

@@calmnrelaxed Its not that in my question I am confronted with ONE god yes or no. I am confronted with over 2000 religions with hundred thousands of gods and each presented himself to a few people as Jesus only presented himself to a few people ignoring the others.

[@calmnrelaxed]

@user-hr8dx9qw4n nah, you know the answer. You're just playing a game. So, a better question would be, what about my original reply made you think I have enough patience to play games?

[@m4andi0ca]

@@calmnrelaxed seems to me u cannot answer any of the questions presented and is brainwashed, "you playing games" wtf does that even mean, word salad.

[@blessednat9]

Non believers are so desperate for truth but approach with a hardened heart . You will never find the truth with a closed mind . Our human brains can not understand the supremecy of our god.

[@andulasis6283]

Cliffe himself said that you shouldn’t believe blindly. Be skeptical, ask and search for the truth and evidence and convince yourself of it.

[@blessednat9]

@@andulasis6283 “Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.” Revelation 3:20

[@Vuyosaysomethin]

How are the people who are actively seeking or desperate for truth and are not convinced by the same things the majority of the world has accepted as the truth, closed minded?

[@tamalafaiki4512]

Believers in a god have minds that are too open and I hate to say it but their brain has fallen out.

[@d3adagain385]

​@@Vuyosaysomethin You can't argue with those people 😂 No matter how hard you try there is another one. Average iq is ~95. Half is dumber.

[@BerishaFatian]

What he said in an nutshell is like saying "I don't need oxygen, I can breathe with my lungs".

[@leahwilliams156]

😂😂😂😂😂🎯

[@verdadabsoluta9756]

Wow!

[@vivianedepaula693]

Waw bro you nailed it.👏👏👏👏

[@natnatalie1517]

Period!

[@TheRealMonnie]

Man you really summarized that well! Good job.

[@insurancebymatt]

I used to not give a rip about God. Came to Christ in my late 20’s - Child of the King here

[@Krillian777]

I am pretty impressed with how Cliff is handling this conversation-> I think what the articulate man misunderstands is how meaning, morality (goodness), and purpose are all interdependent with our beliefs about origin and the prime reality. The articulate man wants to isolate each of them, but Cliff is brilliant in demonstrating how that's not possible. What we believe about how we got here has an impact on those other deep philosophical questions.

[@nunca789]

Yes, Cliffs took an unexpected tack very early. I'm guessing earlier in his outreach he had dealt with more aspects.

[@ChloeQuestionBliss]

Even as a Christian, this gave me a lot of food for thought. Thank you.

[@aceonikuma]

He is not thinking as openly as he think he is. Since he cut off cliffe with the evidence of God

[@Ty_Elevation]

He’s not listening or understanding. He doesn’t realize his beliefs contradict each other

[@Redem1975]

He is talking in circles in an attempt to sound more philosophical or smarter using the argument that Cliffe is going off topic or going outside his debate topic. I agree with you he repeatedly contradicts his personal belief system.

[@mrFizzboat]

@@aceonikuma the guy wasn't cutting off Cliffe when Cliffe was giving evidence FOR god, the guy was cutting off Cliffe when Cliffe was criticising an alternative position. The guy was justified for cutting off Cliffe because debunking an alternate position in no way makes your position true.

[@kylenewberry8598]

@@mrFizzboatwell that’s true. It’s why atheism is untenable.

[@reynoldsalatoa331]

"Faith comes by hearing,hearing by the Words of God"

[@Fubizz12345]

Answer for atheist followed by answer for Cliff the Christian.. Atheist: He said it himself, 7:29 “once you acknowledge there is something higher than humanity it belittles us.” This guy tried so hard to control the conversation and keep it where his argument was strong and avoid his weak points that Cliff very tactically drew out. But they both completely missed this man pointing to the Crux of his whole argument. He does not want an authority higher than him. And his whole position is derived from this position. That he is his own highest authority and therefore his own analysis of evidence is the judge and jury for all verdicts of evidence. He is playing judge, jury, and executioner. Which means that no evidence will ever be enough because it’s a kangaroo court. It’s rigged from the beginning. He has no accountability higher than himself. Answer to Cliff: the only way to break down someone who has already came to a conclusion is to purpose an irrefutable fact (singular) that they already agree with but haven’t followed the string or path that this truth must conclude. Cliff did a great job trying to get him to see the question of morality and ethics but in my experience, atheists never budge on this because they consider themselves to be ethical and moral without God. It’s flawed but their hearts do not agree with the premise therefore they cannot follow the string to its ultimate conclusion. Try this instead.. Your an atheist, you believe the universe had a beginning? (This works either with a yes or a no) Yes: good, so all scientists that agree that the universe began say they do not know how or why. What we do know is that in the beginning “time, matter, and space” all came into existence simultaneously. In order for this to happen, there had to be something external injecting information or interacting with “nothing” for suddenly something to come into existence. Nothing cannot create itself. Newstons 1st law and 3rd law of thermodynamics both say only with something external acting on something else can cause change. This is undeniable that whatever caused the beginning could not be nothing, and could not be physical, temporal, and spacious. (matter, space, time.) If they answer no, still use argument above but first show them this: OK so you believe everything existed for infinity, do you reject the Big Bang? They will answer that they accept the Big Bang. No scientist alive rejects the evidence for the Big Bang, we just don’t know the cause but we know it happened. Then explain to them the same thing from answer above. With small adjustment. “Something existed before the Big Bang? Eternally? That sounds pretty stable. Tell me, how can an infinitely stable thing whatever it may be. Become unstable? Without something external acting upon it? It can’t. Something external had to act upon this infinite stable thing to cause it to become unstable and result in the Big Bang. And the thing external could not be the thing itself, it must be outside of this infinitely stable thing.

[@TheTriplelman]

wow very insightful and loved your quote, “once you acknowledge there is something higher than humanity it belittles us.” SO TRUE - therefor they have anger and deny evidence and truth, because they still want to believe they are in charge of their lives. Good points, brother!

[@iguess2739]

I like your argument, although I am biased because I proposed the same one. You sound like you love the big picture arguments that revolve entirely around logic, so here: "The logical contradiction regarding valuation upon secularism", by me. [Under the assumption of a secular worldview]: Why does anything you do have any value to yourself? Because you do value things, therefore you have a reason for it. We establish that 'reason' is a function of 'value'. However, there is a distinction between 'inherent value' and 'transitive value'. "I value growing corn to grow corn" is a recursive statement regarding valuation. It assumes that 'growing corn' has inherent value, but such thing cannot be proven, rather, the opposite form: 'transitive valuation' is more likely as we can test for this both by asking and by watching the actions of an individual: "Hey you, don't you grow corn so that you can eat it? Yeah, that's, right, I saw you the other day doing such. Or maybe it was to sell the corn." A person's actions, with regards to a reason, if hypothetical and unproven, provides the evidence for intent. In any case we have the actions of a human being deciding action based not off evidence for inherent value, rather a transitive value: "The reason I grow corn is so that I can feed my pigs". If we put this expression in variable form (A) and (B), etc., some may better conceptualize the point of this argument. "You said that (A) has value, and when I asked why, you said that it derives its value from (B), thus (A) doesn't possess any inherent value, only that its value is transitive, deriving from the subsequent action." The obvious line of questioning that both 1991's Arnold Schwarzenegger's character and any toddler that you may be a parent of, presents itself: "Why". "Okay, so why is (B) valuable? Because it derives its value from (C), and the same for (D), and (E), and so on and so forth approaching eternity". No inherent value is derived to prove that one action should be done over the other. Further, thermal equilibrium is an inevitability. If all of your valuation depends upon transition (transitive value), and there is no more transition from one action to another (because of thermal equilibrium), then there is no more value that can be derived. It is why you cannot value 'nothing', do 'nothing', inverse the number 0, or be an influential variable with a 0 correlational value, etc. As such, the entire string of supposed valuation of all of its concerned actions: (A)->(B)->(C)->etc., relies upon this. We conclude from this that since there is no more transitive value that can be derived, there is no associated value to any string of actions, actually conducted or otherwise hypothetical. In this world we have come to the conclusion that both inherent value is unproven, and that transitive value not being able to exist for eternity results in no value. Since our actions rely upon this valuation, none of our actions can be considered having value. Despite knowing that any and all of our actions have no value, and unable to prove otherwise, the secularist will continue to conduct actions. We, as free beings, do not possess the option to not choose to conduct an action. But when the secularist conducts an action, by such, they are "stating" that said action (of no value) is more valuable to do at that moment than any other action (of no value). But how can this be? That an action of no established value can be expressed as having value relative to others of no established value? This is a logical contradiction. Logical contradictions do not indicate that, I as its possessor, is correct and the rules of the world are incorrect. It instead indicates that I, as its possessor, is incorrect about the rules of the world. So, in this example, what am I incorrect about? I would be incorrect to assume that value can be established unto any action through secularism. But we conduct valuation, so what must I be missing, if secularism cannot be true upon this basis? How about the fact that I am missing God.

[@SojiRo23]

Also, a good illustration: If I tell you Jesus is knocking on your front door, we can debate all day about the evidence for Jesus’ existence, but at the end of the day the best proof is only going to be available to you once you answer the door. People who are stuck in atheism are really just those who don’t want to answer the door for themselves.

[@Fubizz12345]

@@iguess2739 very well said. May be a little too sophisticated for most readers in this forum of KZbin posts😂. In my experience the value and moral arguments hold very little water with atheists because all of them are practicing cognitive dissonance. Believing that there is no ultimate value or right or wrong. But living in a way that there is, judging and holding others and all people in all time accountable to their standards of good moral ethics. Which in one breath they say is subjective and not objectively true. Yet they apply it as an objective truth like a broad sweeping brush without hesitation unto all people everywhere no matter how long ago they lived.

[@Fubizz12345]

@@SojiRo23 absolutely, it is a heart problem and all we can do is say what God tells us to say when the time comes or be silent when he asks. Trusting he knows the persons heart and what is needed. It’s a hard truth to be silent when we have an answer but God always knows the hardness or softness of one’s own heart

[@dougkercher3364]

The fruits of the Spirit include patience. Cliff has buckets of it for engaging with this bloke.

[@vio1ent98]

The argument that guy was making is so frustrating to listen to because I WAS that guy before I found the truth. His problem is that he has too much pride in his own intellect and probably can't even see it. Being able to see that your own "intellectual superiority" is actually empty and miserable is enough to make you question it. And that's exactly where I found my way to God. Having to dig myself into misery and realize I don't have all the answers led me to learning about God, and trusting that God knows the right way for us to live is such an incredibly freeing and comforting alternative. I genuinely pray that people like him don't give up their inquisitive nature, but find the ability to be open and honest about the world around them. Jesus' life, death, and resurrection is not a story or fantasy. It's historical and as real as anything else you may learn about in school, and that's simply very hard to accept when you are closed minded to anything outside of what you have experienced firsthand. Have faith!

[@timothyyoung4463]

Yup, you nailed it exactly!

[@vivianedepaula693]

I think about it all the time, you know, pride is a dangerous sin.

[@SacredSincerity]

Great response

[@d3adagain385]

Basic logic and fallacies are too much for your intellect so you went with "i hAVe aNswER tO eVeRYthIng: mY CoSMiC daDDy 🙏" Just listen to this word salad coming from Cliff's mouth. He is changing topic everytine, trying to use whataboutism, presupoosing god existence.. it's just funny to watch 😂 And you sign below this brainwashed worldview.

[@pbenwa69]

“Satan disguises submission to himself under the ruse of personal autonomy. He never asks us to become his servants. Never once did the serpent say to Eve, "I want to be your master." The shift in commitment is never from Christ to evil; it is always from Christ to SELF. And instead of his will, self-interest now rules and what I want reigns. And that is the essence of sin.” -from This Day with the Master by Dennis F. Kinlaw

[@franconieves75]

I love two individuals openly debating with respect

[@RiotDuel_Wisdom_and_Eternity]

What he demands is "What can God do for me, so that I could consider believing and living unto His way?"

[@Zuln51]

Cliff is absolutely correct that despair is honest athiesm.

[@mrFizzboat]

Cliffe was dead dishonest. Asked where he got meaning the guy suggested he got meaning from flourishing, from which Cliffe told him he was living in meaningless despair. How can you get that disingenuous that after being told where he gets meaning Cliffe tells him he's wrong and that he has no meaning. Terrible grip on logic.

[@SlyyCoopa]

@@mrFizzboat What is the standard of morality, what tells us that we live to flourish? If hes saying that its himself then i personally couldnt trust that he is the standard for right and wrong because no one is perfect. even those who dont believe in God know that

[@mrFizzboat]

@@SlyyCoopa no one is perfect, that's why you don't see moral perfection.

[@SojiRo23]

To answer the atheist’s question at the end: “is there more work to be done once I’ve decided that the evidence is not sufficient.” Yes. Answer the door for yourself. If I tell you Jesus is knocking on your front door, we can argue about the evidence for His existence all day, but eventually you’re going to have to decide whether to answer the door and find out for yourself.

[@SoulHydron]

I like that

[@melvinirabon3847]

This is a good answer and would save both of their time but obviously the atheist would reject it as his heart is hardened. Take crossing the road for example. Hundreds of road accidents happen everyday. Knowing that, I’d say the evidence is insufficient to prove that I’ll be 100% safe. However, I still choose to cross the road or drive a car because I have faith that I’ll be safe. Not because of the evidence but because of taking action, like answering the door myself as you said.

[@Spiritis99]

Hi, just knowing I could be wrong would be a reason for me to keep searching for God until my doubt dissipates. That's how/why I found God in my late 30's.

[@JohnnyEspinoza-sb4gr]

Jesus Christ is Real Mates no matter what you think or say my answer is Jesus Christ is God, equals Real MATES

[@ehecken]

Ohhhh.... 👍👍👍 They can choose to walk away But they can't erase someone who is not of this world And they can't erase what is in someone else's heart!!! 🙏🙏🙏

[@EternalFaithh]

✝️🙏

[@grahamash62]

You are delusional

[@grahamash62]

​@ehecken you are deluded

[@grahamash62]

You are delusional

[@nickh.9816]

The problem with intellectual people is that they rarely can admit when they are wrong. He loves intelligence therefore would internally fight to need to always be right. This is unfortunate for them because that mindset is why the truth will never be revealed to them. They could read the bible 1,000 times and still not see the truth. God only reveals it to you when you humble yourself before him and confess that you need him in your life. Its sad really. So many people will suffer eternally over their own ego.

[@capy656]

I think it's not about being an intellectual that makes people disagreeable, but the experiences they have that holds their beliefs and gives them power over arguments that makes them somewhat strong in their opinion and somewhat narcissist about it. Like when I'm arguing with my parents(asian parents), it is hard to persuade them to think that your view is right even though facts can be searched on google. But that's just me.

[@charliecarboni4642]

@@capy656yes, emotions and wounds can get in the way.

[@user-hr8dx9qw4n]

So Jesus is the only way and only believing and following him brings you salvation? Then why is he only appearing to a very small amount of people, and that 295k years after we humans came up in this world? He acted in a small area while all the Earth was already full of humans. Billions and billions of people never even had the chance to know him. And after he died, this religion spread over brutal military power in North Europe, in America , in parts of Asia and in Australia. Till today 2/3 of humans do not follow that religion, not because they are bad, but because they are socialized in other religions and convictions. A very bad strategy of a guy that offers the ONLY way and also a very unsuccessful way. Doesnt sound like the strategy of a god that created all universe and billions of galaxies with billions of solar systems in it. It sounds rather like a man-made invented local religion that made it to spread and needs several justifications.

[@TheTriplelman]

true Nick, but the holly spirit is in control and me, at 62 years old and studding and teaching the Bible for 36 years, I also finally see that; "few are chosen" Mt. 22:14

[@user-hr8dx9qw4n]

@@TheTriplelman That would be my critic: few are invited and few are chosen! Jesus only spoke to a few amout of people, only 2000 years ago (295k years after we humans came up) and only in a small area while the complete world was full of humans. He invited a few and a few follow him. The other 2/3 of humans follow other religions not because they are evil but because they are socialized in other religions and dont want to betray their god/gods in a blaspheme way and wont follow a Jesus , that didnt speak to their fathers and father fathers.

[@billyb6818]

The answer to his question is He has eyes but does not see He has ears but does not hear No answer will be good enough for him, until he encounters Jesus hisself on his own accord.

[@Sola_Scriptura_1.618]

He has a mind and does not think

[@blanchardpeggy9189]

*Larry Burkett's book on "Giving and Tithing" drew me closer to God and helped my spirituality. 2020 was a year I literally lived it. I cashed in my life savings and gave it all away. My total giving amounted to 40,000 dollars. Everyone thought I was delusional. Today, 1 receive 85,000 dollars every two months. I have a property in Calabasas, CA, and travel a lot. God has promoted me more than once and opened doors for me to live beyond my dreams. God kept to his promises to and for me*

[@LaureenGaas]

There's wonder working power in following Kingdom principles on giving and tithing. Hallelujah!

[@JoyceTatum-jy5vn]

But then, how do you get all that in that period of time? What is it you do please, mind sharing?

[@blanchardpeggy9189]

It is the digital market. That's been the secret to this wealth transfer. A lot of folks in the US and abroad are getting so much from it, God has been good to my household Thank you Jesus

[@blanchardpeggy9189]

And thanks to my co-worker (Michael) who suggested Ms Susan Jane Christy

[@MistyHoffman737]

How can I start this digital market, any guidelines and how can I reach out to her?

[@alvarez321]

This guy is all over the place. Contradicts himself and doesnt see the obvious flaws in his way of thinking. If he can't trust anything, why even open your mouth?

[@BridgeTROLL777]

And whats wrong with having dialogue and posing questions? Very close minded of you to try to shut down differing ideas and not trying to understand what he was saying...even if you have different philosophy.

[@gabrielperez5416]

Genius

[@alvarez321]

@@BridgeTROLL777 So me making an observation about someones flawed way of thinking, and posting my opinion on KZbin is somehow shutting down dialogue? Hmm, interesting. Also how can you claim I'm close minded? You would have to assume I have never thought what he was saying. So that is pretty close-minded of you to make that assumption. Another thing, How else would I have been able to form my opinion if I did not listen to what he said and thought about it? And another thing, show me where I said it was wrong to have dialogue and ask questions.

[@NJT1013]

I was raised in church by a Southern Baptist Evangelist. I went my own way, and God always called me back. Inignored for a long time, until I could ignore no longer. The absolute most compelling evidence for me was the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Aside from that, there is plentiful evidence that the stories in the Bible are truth.

[@Orthodixie33]

I was also raised southern Baptist and recently left to become an Orthodox inquirer into the Church of Jesus Christ which he established on Pentecost! He is risen!

[@deecee8108]

I believe this man is being genuine and we tend to forget that God MUST draw people to themselves and we are to be ready to give an answer to all that ask....with MEEKNESS and fear

[@jtslev]

These types of conversations are really difficult because in the debate world, there are “honest interlocutors,” and then there are “dishonest interlocutors.” This guy is a textbook dishonest interlocutor. For crying out loud, his first question was loaded. If Cliff would’ve answered yes or no to his question he would’ve been implicitly agreeing to something he doesn’t believe. To ask such a question is extremely scummy. On top of all that, this guy refused to answer a single question straight because he knew that if he said too much he would get exposed for the fraud pseudo-intellectual he is.

[@jtslev]

Cliff displayed disgust because what that guy was doing in this conversation was disgusting (not to mention, dishonest, and just plain disrespectful), and should be exposed for what it is.

[@m4andi0ca]

@@jtslev damn u are so stupid it's funny

[@rmike298]

Agree totally. He came in having studied Cliff (good idea) and his arguments. He acted like he truly wanted to have a conversation but he was completely disingenuous and it was quite obvious. He thought he was the smartest person in the room and so he could pull it off, but I doubt 10% of the people there bought his act. He thought he came up with the perfect question, he could trap Cliff. Cliff picked up on it immediately but acted like he didn’t, which just bolstered the guys arrogance. Cliff kept acting ignorant of the charade until finally calling him out. The dude didn’t come to listen and discuss. Only to lay what he thought was the perfect trap.

[@deecee8108]

@@rmike298 It reminds me of what Jesus dealt with. However, I would not want to assume someone's intent. The Spirit still must do his work

[@ehecken]

My question is, if it's true and you choose to have faith in it trust in and believe in it then when you die you're going to move on to a better life. If it's not true then when you die you won't know the difference. The real question is what is it about believing in God that scares you so much.

[@3GSUP]

Amen

[@Jackson_Zheng]

It doesn't scare me, I just find the viewpoint limiting and flawed. We don't always make decisions based on fear you know? If one chooses apples over oranges for lunch, it doesn't mean they fear oranges does it? Also, it may not always be just one reason either. Some people might be allergic to oranges, some might have gotten sick and almost died from consuming rotten oranges, and some might just hate the taste and citrus flavour or dislike the intense sweetness. There are a myriad of reasons and they are all valid.

[@user-hp4nk6qp6p]

​@Jackson_Zheng wow....that's a first for me. Deciding whether to live your life whether God exists is akin to whether or not one likes oranges. Now that's a massive false equivalency if I ever saw one... The weight and consequences of those 2 situations are basically on opposite ends of the spectrum. When making decisions about whether to live your life as if God did or didn't exist should hopefully be made with more diligence than "I don't like the rules or restrictions that come with God (perhaps akin to the sour taste of oranges in your wonderful analogy), so therefore I'm good." No. This is eternality that's at stake here, it should be the most fundamental question of everyone's life - is there life after death. Once that question is taken truly seriously, only then can a diligent pursuit of truth begin.

[@3GSUP]

@@user-hp4nk6qp6p well said

[@RepentandtrustinChrist-sd8wl]

1Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

[@Cross_Culture_Media]

I wish Cliffe could walk around in my head and debate my thoughts all day. The amount of faith he has is admirable and would be so useful. Side note: I would have been in trouble if he was my parent. Trying to debate myself out of trouble with him, no thanks.

[@RicardoCray]

I’m blown away by Cliffe’s wisdom 🙏🏾✝️

[@BornAgain223]

amen he's a brilliant debater. Praise God!

[@jaythrashhvac3571]

Holy Spirit talking through him 🎉

[@Yaqiel7]

@@RicardoCray Old Testament, aka the Tanakh vs the new testament Exo 6:1-2 ¹And ↪️𐤉𐤄𐤅𐤄 said↩️ to Moses, Now thou shalt see what I will do to Pharao; for he shall send them forth with a mighty hand, and with a high arm shall he cast them out of his land. ↪️²And GOD spoke to Moses and said to him, "I am 𐤉𐤄𐤅𐤄."↩️ Mat 3:17 KJV - "And ↪️lo a voice↩️ from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." Who is the voice?

[@rudd0967]

If the goal is to become more “Christ Like”, I’d say Cliff is an amazing demonstration of sincere faith in Christ. I love this.

[@madsocsci]

I was an atheist for 20+ years. Like Cliff, I thought I had arguments/evidence against God. Then I had a heart attack/NDE and HAD to come back to the foot of the cross. I can't make an intellectual argument for why I believe. Every argument can be taken to task somehow. It comes down to trust at some point. Anyone could tell me I hallucinated/dreamt up/made up things in my own head, or whatever. But in my days of apostasy and sin, I did almost every drug to man. I also slept most nights of my life. I have never hallucinated or dreamt anything near what I "saw", and don't believe everything I experienced could even "fit" or be contained in a physical human brain/head. I will trust my experience, and trust what knowledge has been given to us by history and the Church of Christ about Him. "By their fruits you shall know them." This guy Cliff talked about "flourishing". I don't see flourishing fruits in the lives of those who oppose Christ, but I see it in the lives of those who follow Him and live by His words. Thank you, Jesus, for bringing me to the edge of death so I could could see true life in You! "Blessed are they who have not seen and yet believe!"

[@123lowp]

Tough times make people reach out to the universe, or god, and try to be saved. It may be psychologically beneficial to believe in things whether they are true or not. You interpret your experiences Jesus because you grew up in a Christian culture. Think of this situation on a more abstract way.

[@bradmccoy7996]

The Bible has a recurring theme of avoiding foolish debates, including debates over words: Titus 3:9: "Avoid foolish debates, for they are unprofitable and worthless" 2 Timothy 2:14: "Remind them of these things, and charge them before God not to quarrel about words, which does no good, but only ruins the hearers"

[@daveconner9520]

How would I answer this question? Can we still have faith if we - reject the evidence of God by knowing our minds are limited. Saying it in a different way. My mind is limited so I can't trust it with no matter how much evidence is presented. Cliffe answered this awesomely. It's a materialist mind set. I have faith that my mind is flawed, so therefore I can't trust it to make a rational decision concerning the existence of God. Cliffe answered it this way. You DO have faith. This guy's faith is in the fact that he's a bunch of cells in a body that came from evolution. Thats his faith. Essentially, I would have answered. It's all you got! You don't have anything else to judge the world by except by your own mind, and you doubt it. You have to answer (as Cliffe pointed out), the basic questions of life. He's rejecting the great line "I think, therefore I am." He can't trust that phrase. The next step would be to examine the evidence, which he would not do.

[@user-hr8dx9qw4n]

So Jesus is the only way and only believing and following him brings you salvation? Then why is he only appearing to a very small amount of people, and that 295k years after we humans came up in this world? He acted in a small area while all the Earth was already full of humans. Billions and billions of people never even had the chance to know him. And after he died, this religion spread over brutal military power in North Europe, in America , in parts of Asia and in Australia. Till today 2/3 of humans do not follow that religion, not because they are bad, but because they are socialized in other religions and convictions. A very bad strategy of a guy that offers the ONLY way and also a very unsuccessful way. Doesnt sound like the strategy of a god that created all universe and billions of galaxies with billions of solar systems in it. It sounds rather like a man-made invented local religion that made it to spread and needs several justifications.

[@ThePlim62]

Say what??????? Word salad.

[@daveconner9520]

@@user-hr8dx9qw4n So you are judging God based on what here? That he hasn't shown himself to everyone? Why do you worry about that when its your salvation God is after?

[@daveconner9520]

@@ThePlim62 What part do you not understand? Did you not see the video? Did you not understand the context of the guests question or Cliffs answer?

[@ThePlim62]

@@daveconner9520 150% All of it was quite embarrassing for him. He made zero logic sense.

[@tamou_whanau1441]

We all have faith given by God. The question is, what are we using it on?

[@RedLetterRambo]

Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

[@TheUOneKY]

I love watching Cliffe talk to people. Good lesson in this too.

[@rsmithp51]

The atheist here refuses to admit that He flatly rejects sound argument. He is clinging to his unbelief in utter desperation while claiming to seek the truth. The heart is desperately wicked. Who can know it? Only God can open blinded minds bu He will not always strive with man.

[@sykosocial9]

I’ve struggled the same way the gentleman was in this video, but the way cliff explained it knocked it right out of the park and I can clearly understand what he’s saying. I also think even though it got slightly heated, they both were respectful and that’s the type of dialog that makes us grow

[@123youknowmeyo]

He said he is sincere in his questions, but seems so resistant and closed minded to hearing any answers to his questions.

[@Jackson_Zheng]

Let's say I claimed that ice is hot and that it can be used to cook food with, and you questioned me on how that was true and to provide answers and evidence to back up my claims. I then crack an egg on the ice, it freezes, and I say "Look, can't you see that it is cooked? The egg has turned firm, just like if you had fried it!" Now if you then said "Dude, I think you need to see a doctor." Do you think I'd see you as being "resistant" and "close minded" even though I had obviously just presented you with irrefutable evidence that ice is hot?

[@123youknowmeyo]

@Jackson_Zheng , I'd say you are confused, have a wrong perspective, and have it out against God! Why do I say you have it out against God?? Why are you here? You obviously know God is real and His word is true... but you love your sin more than you love your soul! If you want to follow God, then you can! But if you refuse, that means you are your own god. Remember how the devil decived Eve? Think about the devil deciving you too! It's obvious that God made the heavens and earth, and He is good! So, worship Him, that is right, and good for you! We were made in His image and made to worship our Creator!

[@conquerunderstanding7517]

I’m so glad I started following Jesus Christ at 4 years old. John 20:29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.

[@anomalous9771]

Lord have mercy

[@user-hr8dx9qw4n]

On you?

[@excessviscosity6305]

@@user-hr8dx9qw4non Everyone. Godbless ❤

[@dansmith6631]

He is not looking for answers.Just an argument. In using logic and reason he has no ground to stand on .

[@ronnie-lynn]

Yeah this is all I heard also.

[@stephenbonaventure9423]

For one thing, he sure does have pride and he’s way too smart for God sometimes you run into a college nerd that is so smart that face is completely hard to conceive and to even worry about God. I said my peace I counted to three 😢 you don’t have to go to psychology school to understand people when you hear them speak, you have to have a discerning heart and this is why Cliff is so good at his job that he does for the Lord

[@cammeag1965]

Nonsense! Paul was intelligent. Your preacher was not only dim, he was abusing the questioner and very unloving towards him

[@cloud5074]

May God Bless Everyone Have Faith In Christ Amen 🙏✝️❤️

[@drsaxum]

God is love. Jesus is the truth. No one comes to love except through the truth. The truth is incomplete without hope. Jesus loves you and wants you to be saved and know Him. Love is patient. Peace. Be still.

[@tuoyoedukugho1807]

Like Cliffe says, if there is no God it doesn't matter, anything goes, nobody's beliefs or desire is superior to the other.

[@stevenevosando8840]

When the guy said he already made the decision not to believe in evidence. My question would be how did he come to that conclusion?!? On what basis? So if no amount of evidence can make this guy believe in God. It only Leads me to think how big of faith he has in his position in not believing .

[@TheTeRiinis]

I think he asked a great question, and offered the answer to the question, should I carry on searching, considering my limited human ability, but cliff went in another direction. Absolutely carry on searching beyond your human limits. You just nailed it. Human limits is a great reason to believe in something or someone greater than thou. Do you want to continue living a limited experience or the possibility of living an unlimited expereince If limited stay where you are, If unlimited then keep searching for something greater than your limits, we all have the freedom to choose.

[@MusicGoodies-]

This kid doesn't WANT to see the evidence!

[@TheTriplelman]

“once you acknowledge there is something higher than humanity itself, it belittles you.”

[@kathrine266]

yeah, he didnt take the chance to challenge his own conviction. he has figured it out but he will not share that information.

[@shawneelawrence4229]

@@TheTriplelmanlove this comment!

[@ThePeaceOfJesus-f6x]

I pray that when this guy is alone this dialogue will Bro. Cliff replays and Holy Spirit removes the blinders from his eyes and the shackles from his mind. He is determined to be right.

[@andrewlynch1754]

Young guy trying his hardest to argue, hard to watch, makes me cringe at my 20-something year old self

[@alvinbrown5039]

Agreed I’m cringing as well this guy reminds me of my past self

[@orca_MOWWOM98932]

This is the kind of people that watch this bs people who don’t know their own age

[@alvinbrown5039]

@@orca_MOWWOM98932 huh?

[@kitthorton9860]

I'll be honest, even as a Christian, I didn't understand where Cliffe was going with the convo. But then towards the end, I understood where he was going - everyone is living by faith in something, and it impacts our worldview as a whole whether we realize it or not. If you deny God's existence, then you have to give an account for the presuppositions you're holding. And the atheist in the video denied he held to relativism, but Cliffe exposed him there was no other option. The atheist was asking if there's hope for him if he denies there's evidence for Jesus, but recognizes his own fallibility. Cliffe was asking how he can consistently hold to there being no evidence for Jesus, while maintaining beliefs he has no rationality or justification. This was great presupp apologetics, and I didn't even realize Cliffe was going presupp.

[@iworship6951]

Cliffe is not listening. He needs to do a better job at answering people’s questions instead of simply broadcasting

[@timhensley1415]

I don’t believe the other man wanted a discussion he wanted to try to prove a point with a closed mind..

[@blessedarethepeacemakers7952]

Cliffe is definitely listening very carefully. It is the man who cannot take a moment to humble himself to admit the Bible as some sort of evidence. He didn't even point out why he thinks there is lack of evidence. He just wants to prove he is right.

[@kylenewberry8598]

@@blessedarethepeacemakers7952yes he never said why he rejects it to cliff. He could of gotten a different perspective or answer but didn’t want to

[@iworship6951]

@@blessedarethepeacemakers7952 no, he cuts it short sometimes when he doesnt have a clear counterargument in his library. He needs to listen and answer the question, sometimes think on the spot or say he doesnt know. I think he doesnt like to think on the spot. He intimidates students with being annoyed too quickly.

[@andreitanase4914]

Wouldn't you get annoyed too, at some point if one person kept denying the facts and evidence and straight up beliving and saying whatever they want? Cliffe is trying his best to explain it to the young man but he just dosen't listen

[@1luvcod-o2l]

May God continue increasing you in Wisdom for His glory and no weapon fashioned against you shall prosper in the name mighty name of our Lord Jesus Christ Amen Amen and Amen

[@jimkucera3485]

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't fix stupid. Jesus is real and I don't care what you think of me. Jesus is King and he will be back but not like a Lamb, he will be a Lion this time.

[@CrimXae]

Be kind, there not stupid we all need help and a savoir, it's our job to spread the word and let God handle it, and to have faith ❤❤❤

[@owenbarrett2517]

This man is far from stupid, we’re all in different stages of our walk with God. He had a genuine question and came up wanting to learn and wanting answers

[@jackalsgate1146]

You - You can lead a horse to water but you can't fix stpd. Response - That comment is exactly why more people reject Chrstnty. If that's the way you feel: the world doesn't need your hrs-sht, and you can stop going out into secularism to preach your bullocks.

[@user-hr8dx9qw4n]

So Jesus is the only way and only believing and following him brings you salvation? Then why is he only appearing to a very small amount of people, and that 295k years after we humans came up in this world? He acted in a small area while all the Earth was already full of humans. Billions and billions of people never even had the chance to know him. And after he died, this religion spread over brutal military power in North Europe, in America , in parts of Asia and in Australia. Till today 2/3 of humans do not follow that religion, not because they are bad, but because they are socialized in other religions and convictions. A very bad strategy of a guy that offers the ONLY way and also a very unsuccessful way. Doesnt sound like the strategy of a god that created all universe and billions of galaxies with billions of solar systems in it. It sounds rather like a man-made invented local religion that made it to spread and needs several justifications.

[@jaythemachine3845]

@@user-hr8dx9qw4nso we are here by accident? Or what???

[@EmilGhiurau]

Some always think that they ask the same question with a cherry on top and it's a different question, more sophisticated, but when you peel all the layers down, it comes down to the same question. May God reveal himself to those who are searching sincerely.

[@JerrellConner]

Cliff, as usual, phenomenal job… the ONE QUESTION I wanted him to ask the atheist was since he proclaimed that all the evidence he’s heard (though he didn’t explicitly say what that evidence was) wasn’t enough for him to believe; WHAT then would be enough evidence for him to believe? I would have loved to hear his answer.

[@Nate_Higgins]

The answer is yes. You should keep looking. I've gone almost 50 years of my life not really believing in God. Even being a hardcore logically minded atheist. I've recently become a Christian. I know ot happens to people all the time, but I'm truly surprised and delighted. Thank you for not giving up on me, Lord.

[@rosewielgo3594]

Master class on the moral argument for the existence of God. Once you master this argument the debate is over. Glory to God!

[@isreal111982]

The thiest argues on the absolutes of the unmovable Holy Scripture, the athiest argues on the stability of a moving train. One roots in the majesty of God we can see in the creation, the other believes in the wretched man in the mirror that chance has created and the philosophical mind that he has concocted, using the mind God has created.

[@HåvardGerhardsen]

Best Jesus Kristus teacher! Together with Mar Mari Emmanuel

[@AnnoyingMoose]

I love watching Cliffe have these debates but why are those distracting, incorrect subtitles on every video?

[@nuffsaid8706]

7:21 “and once you acknowledge something higher than humanity it humiliates us” 👈🏽 this is the problem….the pride in his argument….he needs to answer where he got his moral compass from….for it is a tiny example of living by a greater power….thank you Jesus!!! 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

[@Sarah_G01]

Humility is key to knowing Christ

[@Echo-ux3wo]

I'm very thankful for your works! You bring us all closer to Christ. May God continue to bless and protect you and yours. 💔✝️🩷

[@regulargold7065]

This guy is a winner. The bible is a metaphor. Reality exists within not without.

[@ignaciojzam]

5:45 - 6:03 , so savage and respectful at the same, and applies to any contexts, people and subjects.

[@JadenFowler-j1l]

17:55 an answer to this mans question: there is an illusion within the atheist perspective that value is simply in what we acknowledge as valuable. If you acknowledge the Christian God's existence, you will understand that he gave us the understanding of value. What I'm trying to say from a Christian perspective is that the only way we could ever even deviate from God's will, is through the gifts that God has given us. We would be distorting the reality of God's power and love for us.

[@shazbotonastickwithworms1471]

I think this guy is an intelligent man, who has probably thought more critically about this than the majority of you - Partially out of interests, and partly out of necessity. It’s not a simple feat, and frankly even a remotely smart atheist can dominate a religious debate… You’re debating factual, scientific evidence vs. faith of a 200 year book. Only once it’s read or someone truly opens up enough to give it a chance does it happen. Honestly… I would say immerse yourself for 30 days and actually be open to it. If don’t feel anything, then all you did was learn more about what you don’t. If you do… It changed your life for the better ❤️

[@armadilis4198]

The last minute sums up the argument nicely.

[@berto8096]

I wish more people were willing to engage in conversation like these men

[@renebest-xi9mn]

I LOVE WATCHING ALL OF CLIFFS VIDEOS SO MUCH TO LEARN FROM HIM GODS BLESSINGS ,PROTECTION AND POWER BE ALWAYS BE UPON HIM❤❤❤

[@hectorefterar4851]

Please pray for me brothers and sisters for my arrogance keeps closing my eyes to the light. Praise Jesus

[@EmeraldParkTheWavesMusic]

The possibility for God is clear in the young man's question. He wanted the green light to why he should consider God due to his own human nature of the fact that we don't know everything, we can make mistakes, we don't have an absolute complete picture of everything. The man didn't need the green light, although Cliff gave it to him, he knew the answer already/ he knows it. Even looking logically at the question, the answer is yes, most definitely. God is more than worth the try - if ye seek, ye shall find. Look for God and I am quite confident that you will find Him. God is very real, the most real 'thing' in fact, He is life. Give God a chance, brother, I dearly assure you it is the absolute best thing you can do. God bless you. I pray you will find God, in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.

[@hasimhodzic9649]

1 Corinthians 1:18 For the message of the Cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to those who are being saved it is the Power of God.

[@humanlover5347]

I started rolling my eyes as soon as I heard “human flourishing”

[@kathrine266]

i don't think he has meaning in his life really. he is young and life is fun, but he will open up when he gets older and all the "been there, done that" hits him. or he will just be an grumpy old man.

[@travb8670]

For me one of the glaring answer was to turn to the spirit realm and ask God/ Jesus to make him self real, or reveal himself to him..

[@dfive5507]

The thing is, if he truly had evidence that would disprove the existence of God, he wouldn’t be asking that question. That was 100% a faith question and no matter what, everyone has faith in something. Even agnostics

[@mikeg5719]

Answer directly. Presents circular reasoning.

[@pipexllxxl]

Yes there is an understanding in humans of what is right and wrong, but that doesn’t change the fact that that understanding can be that sacrificing humans is good.

[@user-ud9og6qm9h]

There is so much evidence it’s actually overwhelming. J Warner Wallace wrote a Book called Person of interest and has a one hour video on KZbin titled the same. He present so much evidence I couldn’t believe it.

[@oxybenzol9254]

Moral is relative. Absolute moral needs absolute knowledge.

[@jacusmuller1872]

It simply boils down to LOVE. 1 John 4:16 'So we have come to know and to believe the love that God has for us. God is love, and whoever abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him.' If you believe in love you believe in God - even though you may call yourself an atheist - it makes no difference because God is Love and Love is, wether you believe it or not.

[@PhuongMcKinney]

What a great debate! Love Cliff!

[@CD-ct6fc]

I had a friend who was exactly like this guy with his moral relativism. Useless to argue with him. He believed all paths lead to God and also in reincarnation. Then I said, then the Bible and Jesus must be wrong because they state the opposite. Truth is absolute.

[@dVTHoR]

He claimed an alternative to the binary of absolutism vs relativism, but then didn’t really get properly pressed on what that could possibly be.

[@sweetcoolluvaboy]

My prayer is that God's supernatural love would make it's way into his life so much so he could give Jesus a chance and read his bible as a good child of God.

[@cassie-rin]

this reminds me of... "For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written, “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the discernment of the discerning I will thwart.” 1 Corinthians 1:18‭-‬19 ESV

[@MissouriExplorer]

Objective versus subjective morality is a true dichotomy, either Gods objective moral standard exists or it doesn't and it obviously does.

[@MrBryan1776]

This guy was trying to tie one arm behind Cliff’s back. It’s like telling Cliff to start painting a canvas with only one color and his finger. He REALLY doesn’t want God to be important.

[@ENGlishJELLo-yk7up]

1. Finding faith is finding yourself first 2. Once you find yourself you have spiritually identified your soul 3. Reading scripture helps you find the faith 4. Keeping it close to you everyday keeps the faith 5. You now you have tied yourself to God 6. Live that way everyday until you physically leave this world 7. Once you've physcially left your body you are ready for judgement day (And if you followed these steps God will easily welcome you. If not hell or back into another body and back into the physcial world you go until you get it right)

[@thelimitlessceo-akaceolife4080]

This persons ego was so in the way of seeing that he, himself questioned his own atheism. The crack is where Cliffe IMHO should have invited him to explore further and empathized because so many struggle with these questions as I did. The key with God is a true release of control and realization that God provides the value in this life not us. We are gifted life and as any parent wants his child to succeed, God is no different.

[@FunCares]

This is so good, a battle of the Word 🔥🔥🌊

[@entertaininformmedia7836]

Great honest conversation!!!

[@BridgeTROLL777]

Absolutely!

[@jordanbrock8055]

He’s asking if “if I’m pretty sure it’s not true, but I know I could be wrong, can I still get into heaven?” That was his entire question. Idk why that was so hard for him to understand.

[@MannavanHuyssteen-zf3jc]

Brilliant debate!