Cliffe Knechtle | Student Says Only Original Greek Texts Are Legitimate ? | Give Me An Answer

[@SquattRakk]

That second guy was so angry. I’m sure he wouldn’t be that upset when talking about Muhammad or Buddha. It’s surprising how much even speaking about Jesus shakes people to the core ❤️✝️

[@caprice5841]

@@Theo_Skeptomaidid you watch the video?

[@skyguysreactions]

@@Theo_SkeptomaiALL people.

[@myageis8888]

I'm sorry to make this a reply, there was no other way to make a comment. I just watch Cliff say that the Bible is not the word of God. 😢 I can't BELIEVE he just said that! I think arguing with these people for so long is making him back petal. I hope he has an entire church or community pray over him every Sunday, at least, if not a couple times a week...❤

[@skyguysreactions]

@@myageis8888 That was also a raised flag for me. 😢

[@knxcholx]

@@myageis8888 1999 was over 20 years ago

[@dopestpost]

Cliff has planted so many seeds in his decades long sacrifice on behalf of these young men and women. Praise Jesus. Thank you, Cliff! And son!!! 🤍

[@wolfie5]

Thanking him for what - he is just collecting money

[@dopestpost]

@@wolfie5 planting seeds.

[@stephenomosa4405]

He has unmatched humility, resilience and patience

[@phoenixrider4622]

What money has he made? ​@@wolfie5

[@keokiyoungstrom4359]

@@wolfie5 collecting and giving back :)

[@ultramarinechaplain88]

The fact that students clap at such a silly argument is crazy

[@lex_and_stuff]

@@mirandahotspring4019what's your alternative/why do you believe it to be false?

[@pedrogomespg.5882]

@@mirandahotspring4019 dam u mad 😂😂. Ok miranda, you believe in Napoleon? You belive that he existed? If yes than you are a hypocrite

[@ticklesnkicks]

@@mirandahotspring4019 What you’re expressing is a prejudice that those things couldn’t have happened perhaps because you’ve not seen it before. However, that doesn’t make an account historically inaccurate unless you have sufficient evidence that it didn’t happen. There’s a lot in the writings that suggest they’re very reliable. We just need to grapple with whether or not, as a philosophy, we believe in “the supernatural”.

[@sweetrolldealer]

@@mirandahotspring4019 *3 hours. You deny the supernatural. Thats your choice.

[@yovaniramirez4696]

@@mirandahotspring4019if there is a God it very possible and reasonable for that to happen if there isn’t than yes it’s crazy it there is a God then yes it’s very possible

[@iroh6730]

Not even letting cliffe talk smh but I’m glad the Holy Spirit is with cliffe

[@aaronwalsh2046]

You could tell the second person was angry, but it was because he was frustrated not understanding that inside of himself there was something missing. He knew that but did not know how to express it but God was working out the knots. God bless cliff

[@ExperienceEric]

He was also factually wrong on everything he said. HE though the Bible was based on something written in the 13th century. He was clueless to any basic facts on this topic.

[@jameelhambrick9041]

​@@ExperienceEricI disagree, change my mind. What are you talking about? Don't just claim someone is wrong, explain logically and factually why.

[@TheWeightsOver]

​@@jameelhambrick9041what it is that you're confused about?

[@inquisitor-r1c]

​@@jameelhambrick9041 researching the origins of the NT is not difficult, it's not other people job to explain the stupidity of your comment.

[@jameelhambrick9041]

@@inquisitor-r1c What's the stupid part?

[@igobydubri]

7:30 the applause is actually so sad . “Hey this guy thinks how I think, initiate clap”

[@DrSteve-esq]

A Jew here, who has come to faith in Christ. Love watching Cliff!

[@BeefT-Sq]

"Since religion is a primitive form of philosophy---an attempt to offer a comprehensive view of reality---many of its myths are distorted, dramatized allegories based on some element of truth, some actual, if profoundly elusive, aspect of man's existence . " -Ayn Rand-1966

[@josephhaack5711]

God bless you for following the messiah as foretold in the Torah, the Old Testament!🙏✝️✡️

[@gwockamol]

Hello! I hope you don’t mind my question. I’m new to my faith in Christ and this is something I’ve wondered for decades. Please don’t take offense if I’m being brash, Im rather ignorant to all of this. Im wondering how does Jews for Jesus work? If you’re all in for Jesus, doesn’t that make you a Christian? What’s the difference between your belief and the belief someone like Cliffe holds? Thank you for your time, I am very much looking forward to your answer.

[@josephhaack5711]

@ honest question, as far as I know they are Christian’s who practice Jewish cultural holidays , dietary restrictions etc…. Just like the early disciples of Christ. One of the earliest debates among the 12 disciples was do you have tj be jewish to be Christian? The answer was no… but keeping Jewish customs is completely fine as the messiah was Jewish himself! 👍🙏😉

[@fl9667]

Its so simple, the creation never give value to itself. Its always the creator who give value to his creation.

[@JuiceMann11]

@@Theo_Skeptomai this entire planet… order & design requires an intelligent mind behind it. You have NEVER once in your life seen order & design appear on its own. I don’t understand how ppl have a hard time grasping this lol.

[@JuiceMann11]

@@robertmitchell-tv5yf the designer did reveal himself. God came to Earth as a man in human form; Jesus Christ. But I’m not even going to get into this with you cause I already know u don’t believe in the Bible or Jesus. So I’m not wasting my time going back & forth with atheists. Jesus love you.

[@JuiceMann11]

@@robertmitchell-tv5yf God and Jesus are one. Ever heard of the trinity? The Father, the son, the Holy Spirit (God, Jesus, Holy Spirit) are all ONE being. But God is able to separate that. It doesn’t make sense to the human mind because the human brain doesn’t have the capacity or intelligence to grasp that concept. God isn’t limited to what we’re limited too. Hes the creator. He is outside of time, space, & matter. Jesus has ALWAYS been with God. That’s why in John 8:58, Jesus says “Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” God is eternal. He has no beginning nor end. God isn’t limited to time like we are. If God creating this entire planet, what makes u think God coming down to Earth would be a hard thing for him? That would be as easy as us taking a breath of fresh air. Nothing is impossible for God.

[@JuiceMann11]

@@robertmitchell-tv5yf God created us all with a brain that can understand him, IF we open our hearts to him. If you’re close minded & have a hardened heart about the possibility of God existing, then you will always reject all evidence of his existence. You have to have an open heart & not be bias. I came to a point in my life where I didn’t believe in Jesus. But then I decided to do my own research & not be bias. Ppl reject God because we don’t want to turn away from the sin/sins we enjoy. That’s why they say “sin is sweet.” Believing in God means you have to turn away from the sins that your flesh desires. And most ppl don’t want to do that. They want to be their own God & make their own rules for themselves. Which God gives you the free will to do that. But just know there will be consequences for your actions on judgement day. We will all be judged individually by God. It’s up to you whether you chose to look at the evidence of Jesus Christ & have faith that he really died for our sins.

[@JuiceMann11]

@@robertmitchell-tv5yf Man didn’t sin first. It was Lucifer. The story of Lucifer's fall from grace is rooted in pride and rebellion against God. According to Isaiah 14:12-14, Lucifer desired to elevate himself above his Creator and sought to claim the position and authority that rightfully belonged to God alone. This led to his eventual expulsion from heaven, along with a group of angels who chose to follow him in his rebellion (Revelation 12:7-9). Those angels are now known as demons. The answer is two-fold. For one thing, God could have made a world with no evil in it. However, it would have been one of robots and puppets-creatures who could not love Him or anyone else. Love is possible only for free moral creatures; forced love is a contradiction. So, in order for the world to be morally good, it must be morally free. And free creatures are capable of free choices that bring disease, disaster and death. This is the world in which we live.

[@2016JC]

These kids are critical thinkers and they have open hearts and minds. Cliff must have planted many seeds throughout the years.

[@jasonnoble7302]

Hopefully not

[@floop5734]

@@jasonnoble7302why not

[@jasonnoble7302]

@@floop5734 Because Christianity is immoral

[@jerodwilson.]

@@floop5734Because misery loves company

[@jordanbfromsk5191]

This was a great way to start the morning, listening on my drive.

[@WizzRacing]

You can almost pick the top 20 questions they will bring up. They have not changed in 400 years of debates..

[@thepeej5]

Because they’ve never been answered convincingly.

[@WizzRacing]

@@thepeej5 What question you think has not been answer? You was a little vague on that part...

[@jasonnoble7302]

@@WizzRacing Why does God permit evil things to occur right now if he is good?

[@WizzRacing]

@@jasonnoble7302 Not an Argument. As you deposited that Good and Evil exist to even make the Assertion. So if evil and good exist. Then so does a God..If no God exist. Then that leaves only humans to blame for suffering. So which is it. Does God exist pr not? Then make your argument. You don't get both..

[@jasonnoble7302]

@@WizzRacing God does not exist Good and not good are Erving the universal structure The universal structure exists outside of space and time I’m not making a scientific claim I’m making a worldview belief claim So you’re completely wrong when you say God is necessary for me to know good from not good Now my question is

[@ChristianJAllen]

I can’t just die never seeing Cliff live in action. Praying he comes to UC or OSU so I can see him work on people from my state.

[@Tduck268]

Oklahoma ? It needs it here bad

[@tersan5043]

This sounds stupid but I’m realizing Cliffs PATIENCE comes from the gospel. Clearly he remembers EVERY CHRISTIAN was at enmity (war) with God until Jesus REVEALED Himself and gave us the ability to understand spiritual knowledge. My frustration comes from unwarranted pride in that knowledge. Cliff remembers if they don’t “get it”…they will die and wake up to screaming…

[@terrordude11]

It's not stupid, it's an insightful observation of the circumstances. Keep up the good work

[@myageis8888]

Cliffs says the Bible is not the word of GOD. Why would he say this?? There is NO REASON for him to be out here telling these folks the GOSPEL, OTHER THAN THE GOSPEL😱❣️

[@tersan5043]

@@myageis8888 gotta keep the CONTEXT of his entire ministry. Cliff isn’t trying to PROVE Jesus. These are unbelievers. Just like we used to be, they simply CANNOT understand spiritual things until Christ reveals Himself to them. So Cliff is both preaching the Gospel AND answering the inevitable questions that challenge his faith. He’s saying, “I’m not trying to CONVINCE you the Bible is the word of God. I’m trying to get you to THINK beyond what the world has stuffed down your throat. Be open, do your own work searching, and you’ll decide for yourself because the Bible WILL show you what I’m telling you here about Christ and the cross is true.” I like Cliff.

[@aliciap23]

@@myageis8888that’s not what he said. He said, “I never said [in the argument] that the Bible is the Word of God.” For arguments sake, he never said that, but obviously he believes, since he is a believer that the Bible is indeed the Word of God. It sounded strange. But if you were to go up to him and ask, “do you believe the Bible is the word of God?” He would undoubtedly say yes.

[@jameelhambrick9041]

Beautifully said, that helped me. Glory to God.

[@DestinyJC777]

I love how he chooses colleges to preach, I think it’s extremely important at this stage of life. By doing this he is giving those young minds a path to choose. After they leave the college in life, at least Cliff has already planted lots of seeds in their mind. When life goes on those teachings will be a flashes back to their consciousness, it may help convict them of their wrongs and rights. ❤ May God bless all your work! ❤

[@theaccountant8062]

It's hilarious seeing the students staring back at Cliff not knowing that they're not debating on the same level and they don't realize the intellectual consequences of their positions. No matter how much you explain to them.

[@Pepe-tt9ux]

I don't think the point of all this is "winning a debate". It's so the young people and even teachers can ask questions about christ and the faith and get an answer.

[@bonnie43uk]

@@Pepe-tt9ux do you think the students who debated Cliffe went away convinced of his arguments Pepe?

[@Stanified]

@@j_p_jr.487cliffe is the one speaking facts

[@Stanified]

@@j_p_jr.487 people wanna use science as proof when there technically isn’t any hardcore evidence science is what we believe. You know how much shit is coming out about science changing? Unreliable

[@davidplummer2473]

@j_p_jr.487 Can you give an instance of such a single time?

[@nosh-kami]

We should all be bothered by the weakness of the human condition. It gives me a pit-in-the-stomach feeling considering how easy it is for us (humans) to applaud someone simply because they speak adamantly about their premise, supporting it with expletives and an authoritative tone, yet having no real logical basis, and an obvious lack of understanding for how any of it works. I am referring to the guy arguing against the historicity of the gospels, of course. The clip here was shortened, so I'm not sure how the rest of Cliffe's conversation with him went, but I hope Cliffe got a chance to explain that the guy's position would require that we discard virtually any of our historical knowledge.

[@bonnie43uk]

i don't think the guy is saying we should discard all historical knowledge, only things which make outrageous supernatural claims without any credible evidence.

[@nosh-kami]

@@bonnie43uk Hey! Thanks for replying. Totally see where you're coming from, but whether he means to say it or not, it is a logical conclusion of his argument. I think that's what I was trying to get at.

[@georgewagner7787]

​@@bonnie43uk but the documents are the credible evidence. If you allow anti supernatural presupposition of worldview to influence your interpretation, you will not come to correct conclusions

[@bonnie43uk]

@@georgewagner7787I'm not sure what you mean by "anti supernatural presuppositions" ? I base things on what I observe, and I do not observe anything supernatural.

[@ChicagoMillingCo.]

@@bonnie43uk The documents are eye witness accounts of a super natural occurrence. What Cliff kept trying to explain to the angry dude was the high degree of certainty of said documents based on cross examination where if one person had made up certain parts of the story, that version of the story would not match that of another writer's. Much of accepted history is written in this exact same way and I can't think of many other examples of super natural events that are backed up historically in this manner.

[@McSmurfy]

I think the dude talking to Cliffe in the second part was not being open minded and just didn't want to understand what is being said.

[@ukog6048]

Yeah bro just being ignorant when he heard the answer

[@ALLIANCE7able]

I love Cliffe...may God continue to fill you with his spirit.

[@justsomeguy9452]

This is the third time I’ve listened to this amazing ask cliffe. I love how this kid is getting applause because he’s saying the typical talking points with passion, but cliffe just spits absolute facts right back at him.

[@Alex.Walker.]

The fact that people get this upset about stuff when they clearly haven't done any kind of research on themselves is astounding. so many people living off their emotions instead of thinking things through first.

[@GloryToMaLordGod]

God is king tomorrow today and yesterday, bless you all ✝️👑🐑❤️

[@NewCreationInChrist896]

“The Kingdom of America,” that’s interesting, because a lot of people act like that. John 14:6 👑💕

[@REDscar9000]

I just wanna make a general statement for anyone willing to listen. when engaging in an argument, 1 let the other person talk and don’t constantly interrupt them , 2 don’t just constantly raise your voice the whole time. and 3 when someone else is trying to make a point, actually take the time to listen and think about what they said because neither of you have all the answers in the world and the other person might bring up a point that you never thought about. if you don’t do things like this then you might come off as emotional or irrational, and then nobody can learn anything.

[@theology_guy]

im happy to see all these christian people in this comment section

[@kentonhitchcock1521]

Cliffe and Stuart... Thank you! God Love you and Bless you in Christ Jesus Amen

[@starkiddo83]

Man, this kid is so frustrated. God bless you, Cliff. Praying seeds of faith were planted in these kids. So many people who argue, or claim to be an atheist, with these questions, have never opened the Bible. All the answers are in there, and the same types of people have always existed. That's why Ecclesiastes 1:9 states, "The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.".

[@WizzRacing]

I find the one that makes the most noise. Is the one that was hurt by religious person. That claimed to speak for God..Jeff Fenholt is a good example of the damage these types do. As he was willing to accept Jesus Christ. The preacher told him to leave..

[@bonnie43uk]

not so sure about atheists not opening a bible, it was reading what was in the actual bible that played a big part in me rejecting Christianity.

[@pedrogomespg.5882]

@@bonnie43uk you are a elder man and you rejected Christianity without even understanding it. Its no just read. There is lot more. One of this would be asking the holy spirit to open your mind. But i dont think you are open to this discussion

[@bonnie43uk]

@@pedrogomespg.5882 Hi Pedro, everyone who reads the Bible has their own opinion about different Bible passages, I rejected it after being raised into the Christian faith. Even Christians themselves come to different conclusions as to what it says, most Christians here in the UK do not accept the Adam and Eve story as being an historical event, they accept that it's probably an allegorical tale that tries to explain how we got here. Absolutely I'm open to this discussion, I tend to accept the scientific explanation as opposed to a supernatural explanation.

[@WizzRacing]

@@bonnie43uk Really? So you might read up on Mitochondrial Adam and Eve..As we got better Microscopes today. They narrowed it down to a small population that gave all of Humanity their genetic Markers. Using Sceintific methods. So if you pull out the Science card. You better know what the Scientific Evidence shows. You might be surprised.

[@datcookiedough7255]

What a hard thing to do. Trying to lead people to water. Just for them to deny. Thats all this ever comes down to. Acceptance or denial.

[@KingStr0ng]

Yep. All you can do is tell them the truth and let it be what it is. Only the wise will hear. The fools won't.

[@mikerussell2590]

Cliff is on fire in this one! the Holy Spirit at work.

[@thisisclaudiawang]

Some people really overestimate their intellect lol… Cliffe is such a pleasure to witness consistently. I could never do this as eloquently and I stay in my lane, but my goodness it’s wonderful to watch him and challenge myself to study more and show myself approved as the Bible says.

[@Genesis0Nieves0]

Can't wait to spend eternity with you my brothers and sisters in Christ. God bless you all ❤

[@Darealces]

The patience and knowledge you have brother cliff is truly admirable

[@nschilk]

He's brutally HONEST that's what I respect about him

[@907Tia]

Tiff Shuttlesworth and David Jeremiah are also just as amazing as Cliffe. Definitely check them out too. I like all 3.

[@creaturefeature123]

Cliffe you gotta bring back the OG give me an answer song!

[@Romans3-cnj]

When I watch the older videos, I wonder about the people Cliff spoke to. Did they choose to start following Christ at some point or did they follow down the their own path? Praying their hearts are open to the Gospel!

[@victoraraujo4718]

I see alot of comments throughs Cliff videos about him "losing" and I would like to explain something for the people that think that way. This is not a debate, there are no winners or losers. Cliff's intentions is to spread the good news Jesus spoke about, he's doing just that when he talks about the message Jesus left, his job of planting seeds in people's heart is done. Now all the screaming and arguing some students do is because they want to win, but there's no winning scenario here, smarter atheist have either converted to Christianity when they studied deeper or they reach the conclusion the Bible is true but they can't accept the supernatural. These students have been asking the same questions atheists for centuries have done it and its not because it hasn't been answered, it has but they ignore it. Who really wants to learn Greek or Hebrew to go after those manuscripts and read for themselves? These are the type of things people devote their life to not 5minutes. So to my friends atheist if your still reading I know you have questions but instead of getting bitter over the internet how about try learning more?

[@bonnie43uk]

i agree, it's not really about winning or losing, it's merely a place where anyone who has any thoughts about God can come and discuss their point of view 🙂

[@aarongreene4067]

ive seen most of these videos. the passion in this one chokes me up. wow, i love you God. cliffe was hitting home with this one. btw ive been calling him cliffe netchle this entire time. i didnt think his last name was pronounced like that lol

[@JuneWeekly]

GOD BLESS CLIFFE !!!! PATIENCE IS A GIFT AND HE HAS IT!!!! ❤️🌹💕❤️🌹💕💯

[@iKubyy]

I love how cliff handles every conversation he doesn’t push or force anything onto anyone he informs and teaches them about god, teaching rather than pushing is amazing it helps people that may leave that conversation with the same beliefs at least understand a bit more about what gods all about gotta love it

[@Maikigai]

The NT is history, prophecy, and commentary. Traditionally there are 4 gospels, but I would argue that Revelation is the fifth Gospel because in spite of all the wrath and judgment, for believers it holds good news and a message of hope and redemption. The first 4 gospels along with Acts are largely historical. Everything else is commentary. I say that because the Apostles had no authority to add or subtract from the core message of the Torah and/or Gospels; only to explain them on more personal levels towards their respective audiences (I.e. Romans, Corinthians, etc.). When considered like this, it allows for us to remember that Paul, for example, was a believer and follower of Christ - NOT ON PAR WITH HIM. So we can consider what he says as true, but also to be taken with a grain of salt. An example of this is when he informs that women not speak in gatherings. This is a direct command to that specific audience and not the whole of all believers. Christ never commanded this, nor did God Almighty. We know this is a localized instance because Scripture records female prophetesses as well as women who did preach and started churches (such as Lydia). Point being, as I stated earlier, the NT expands upon the OT (it does not replace it), and is comprised of history, prophecy, and commentary.

[@spacecoastz4026]

*Everything else is commentary* No. Everything is the Word of God....and either you believe this or the bible is just "opinion" of man. If that's the case you might as well just throw it away. Have you not read Galatians, where Paul talks about being given the Gospel message of Salvation by the risen Christ himself, and not through human wisdom and words? It's not about "taken with a grain of salt" but rather understanding the audience and context. 11 But I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man. 12 For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ. Galatians chapter 1 6 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for [c]instruction in righteousness, 2 Timothy chapter 3

[@Maikigai]

@@spacecoastz4026 Ok, let’s reason this out. 1. Your reference to 2 Tim. was written at a time when there was no NT. The only scriptures that existed at the time were the OT. As far as Paul was concerned, he was writing a letter to the believers in Galatia and (as with all his writings) pointing them back to the OT (what Messiah also did). 2. The Law of God (Torah) as well as the Messiah said (commanded) that nothing be added to or subtracted from what was said. Then Paul, Peter, etc. writes a bunch of “books” as we call them today adding to them? No, they were only reiterating what was already said and not at all adding to them. If they were adding, then they are false prophets. They had *no* authority to add or subtract from already established commands. In fact, neither did Messiah because according to Deuteronomy 13, if he did or said anything at all to add or subtract from God’s Law, we are supposed to consider him a false prophet. 3. Now, why are the letters of the apostles commentary? For one, they were never writing to all believers. That’s why they are letters to specific people-groups. An example would be the passage I referenced about “your” not “all” women. But if you look at those letters, you’ll see such comments like, “what a wretch I am!” Well… the man is either saved or he isn’t… which is it? He’s a wretch or born again - pick one. They both can’t be true. Second, Paul tells some of the people he writes to to greet one another with a “holy kiss” (ex. 2 Cor. 13:12); do you take that as a command from God? Do you even do that? When you see other believers who don’t, do you correct them and remind them that Paul told us (though he didn’t tell the world to do so) to greet each other with holy kisses? I’m willing to bet you don’t. Another point is his instruction in Col. 4:17, “Tell Archippus ‘see to it that you complete the service you have received in the Lord, that you may fulfill it.’” Have you sought out anyone by that name to tell them that message? Not likely. How about the letters to be sent in Revelation to those seven churches? Do those locations, nearly 2,000 years later, still require to be preached those messages? Is Laodicia still “lukewarm”? Point being in this respect; no, not everything is “the word of God” in the letters of the apostles. Their core message is enlightening and relevant, to repent, obey God’s Law, etc… but all they were meant to do was add commentary. Messiah did much the same in his teachings because, as I stated before, he nor anyone had the authority to add or subtract from the Law of God. But he did expand upon them. An example of that is how the Law tells us not to commit adultery; Messiah explained that it isn’t just a matter of refraining physically, that it goes all the way to your thoughts of lust which are the same deed. No one had taught that before him. That’s why his teachings were so profound. He was teaching the meaning of the Law (the spirit of it) rather than the physical application of it (the letter). I believe that any believer can carry out the gospel as children of God and disciples of Messiah without the letters of the apostles. I don’t believe they should be removed because they make for great commentary and as an added challenge for weeding out people who are not berean-minded and might actually believe such instructions like “your women should remain silent” are for all women on earth, but they are not necessary for entering nor guiding to the Kingdom of Heaven. God’s word is necessary. Paul’s writings are not. Since neither God nor Messiah issued such a command, you know that Paul (who had no authority to add commands which would make him a false prophet) was only communicating that to specific groups of people. Notice in 1 Timothy 2:12 - who gives the command? “I”. Who is “I”? Paul. He never once in all his writings (through his scribe) said “thus says the Lord”. Rightfully so. God did not tell him to write these things. This is similar to a pastor helping congregants resolve an issue within their own church. These were isolated issues and Paul, as a leader, was giving instructions to these isolated places. Otherwise, he’d have written the exact same thing to every church he wrote. He didn’t. Commentary. Though, that’s a bit of a stretch considering a lot of his writings are greetings, well-wishes, and self-loathing with a hint of speculation. Consider 2 Corinthians 12:2, “I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know-God knows.” Ok, so for one he doesn’t know if he was in the body or out. Two, he even tells us this is a personal story of someone else that he knows of. The man is speculating, admits he doesn’t know one way or the other, and says only God would know. But he’s speaking on behalf of God, right? God speculates? He was inspired to write that he didn’t know an apparently important aspect of the story? That’s dodgy. IF we are to consider this the word of God. If not, then OK, it’s just a man writing a letter about someone he knows and Nicea decided to add it to the Scriptures…. As Commentary. But by all means, if you believe this is the inspired word of God, feel free to start going around greeting believers with kisses. Or, be a Berean and work out the difference. I’m willing to bet that most confusion and conflict comes in when a person reads something Messiah said or that Moses wrote and compares them to the letters of the apostles, they’re not certain often times which is true over the other. I’ve seen it countless times. “Jesus said _______, but Paul said _______…” I’d have to go with Messiah over Paul. Even Peter had to warn people that Paul was hard to understand. God is not the author of confusion.

[@spacecoastz4026]

@@Maikigai So let me summarize your long winded comment. You don't believe in the bible....you don't consider the letters of Paul, Peter, James, John, etc Scripture. And you don't recognize the difference between the Old Covenant vs the New. God isn't the author of confusion, but that doesn't mean that Scripture is without depth. Sorry to say but you are in a sad place.

[@spacecoastz4026]

@@Maikigai *Ok, let’s reason this out* Therefore, since we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we do not lose heart. 2 But we have renounced the hidden things of shame, not walking in craftiness nor handling the word of God deceitfully, but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God. 3 But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, 4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them. 5 For we do not preach ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord, and ourselves your bondservants for Jesus’ sake. 6 For it is the God who commanded light to shine out of darkness, who has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. 2 Corinthians 4:1-6

[@5N2is5K]

Great to see Cliffe at UCSB, please come back. God bless Cliffe and Stuart!

[@EchoGuzman]

Clifee spiting that hot fire 🔥

[@roccoelliot]

The dude in the white shirt is the definition of " if i yell it, it means i win"

[@johnnyjohnster831]

For sure 😂

[@andyfuts]

Good morning all my lovely people ❤

[@MiaGipson7]

This genuinely is one of the best ones that I’ve seen

[@jeremyweir2216]

Bless you all ❤

[@ingridugarteche4301]

When I watch my brother Cliff teach and educate these young people, makes me realize how naive and completely confused they are! Makes them think what they think they known is right! Wow, what a great teaching!!! God bless them all!

[@mariannerosset134]

Jesus is the only one that claims he is the way ,truth and life. He's the only one who sacrificed his life for all😊❤🌞😇🦋

[@alinucalinuc4124]

Many people don't have the discipline of dialogue! Cliffe does a terrific job with these guys - he has so much patience.

[@trustee3447]

This episode is classically classic. Wow!

[@timmitchell3353]

Being in my later years, I would like to say to Cliffe and those who follow the difficult path of being a Christian, “Thank you! I have learned greatly during the last year!” My hope is to continue to find more answers…. I have found hope!

[@Amb-Rose777]

Jesus is God👑🌍

[@stevenwalter5741]

May God Bless you Cliff. You handled yourself well against this angry young college student. All of us know, who watch you, the truth; those of us who are Christians and have walked in the light and continue to, and have experienced Christ’s love, mercy and grace. Keep up the great work my brother in Christ and thank you from the bottom of my heart. You’re taking the Truth into the lion’s den and being very patient in bringing light to these evil institutions.

[@kevinklein9565]

Hey fellas, I’d like to hear your thoughts on modern day Israel and if they’re the biblical Israel? The chosen people? Etc. Couldn’t find anything on this subject from you guys

[@umezvictor]

God bless you Cliffe. It's amazing to see how atheism is so common among American college students. I'm from Nigeria, I've never met more than one atheist my whole life.

[@jayfry895]

Hallelujah JESUS and Glory to GOD ✝️✝️✝️

[@myageis8888]

Cliffs actually says it twice, "The Bible is not the word of God?????????????? Does anyone know his email please!!? He's BACK PETALING💔💔💔💔💔🛐

[@sherihepworth8253]

This was a delight to listen to! Praise the Lord!

[@peteherrera1502]

It is written in 2 Tim 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, and in 2 Peter 1:20 Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things. And I believe that the bible is God's word which consists of the 66 books in the bible. And either a person believes that the bible is God's word or they do not and if they do not then we have nothing to discuss since the foundation for what we believe is not the same. And it is the Holy Spirit who reveals to us the truth of God word. And having an opinion based on emotions only and having an opinion based on bible scriptures are two different things.

[@jasonnoble7302]

Yeah You believe it’s good to permit evil things to happen and I don’t

[@MichaelJLove-km1oq]

The self-righteous remains firmly enamored with minimizing and explaining away the priceless gift of salvation, the only bridge over the nightmarish waters of condemnation. It’s just the nature of the rebellious heart. I was there, until Jesus delivered me.

[@DannyChristopher-qb1vf]

I'm blessed only God knows how much I praise Him, $80k every 4weeks! I can now afford anything and also support God's work and the church.😊

[@JoyConstance]

I'm so happy for you dear, please can you elaborate more about this I'm having a lot of family crisis lately. I definitely believe you're God sent🙏🙏🙏

[@Godwinmike272]

Only God knows how much grateful i am. After so much struggles I now own a new house and my family is happy once again everything is finally falling into place

[@Festuspaul446]

Thank God for Bringing Mrs Maria Angelina Alexander , I'm happy for God's grace have found me, Mrs Maria Angelina Alexander is lord sent!!!

[@Victorchris790]

A lot of people keep talking about investments and how investment trade change their lives. I really need to engage myself in someway of earning more income and stop depending on the government

[@PaulArciola]

The miracle of God is flowing Wow I'm just shocked you mentioned Maria, thought I'm the only one trading with her. She's a perfect teacher

[@justinphen966]

That “heh” from the audience at 22:22 was perfection

[@Dark_Shadow7884]

does anyone know how I can ask cliff a question over the internet, I have a question I would like to get answered since i have been a Christian for a long time and have been wondering this for a long time. Thank you guys and may the lord bless all of you amen :]

[@chadandrew2935]

He has an address for his church is his church grace community church 365 Luke’s rd. New Canaan CT. 06840

[@kethkoth-wb6sw]

Atleast we have to know how to respect our elders......God bless❤❤❤❤❤ Amen!🙏🙏

[@tTtt-ho3tq]

Mr. Cliffe was not answering the first guys question. So what happens when two guys have two different views according to their God? Or their translations of their God (the same God). Free will?

[@sirpoppinchuck]

Now if someone recorded this young man's conversation that day n wrote it down n it was his friend n told others he had this conversation someone 50 years later would say "how can you say that you weren't there?" So because you weren't there it makes it invalid? That's why we have witnesses n historical documents and artifacts. It did happen!!!

[@nschlaak]

Oh Cliff, Jesus wasn't born in Palestine, he was born in Bethlehem of Judea. The area was later renamed Palestine by the Romans in 125-6 AD. The area of Bethlehem is in the West Bank and is currently called Palestine by some groups.

[@Kimkong2]

So many people conflate the lack of opportunity to do bad as them therefore being good. Whenever i read about people doing bad stuff today or in history, my thought is always "would i, in the same situation have done any different or better?"

[@nicolairafael9292]

I love you guys❤

[@peterbassey9668]

Well, let's just face it, Cliffe has a superb speaking voice. T'was made for purpose and he's using it right. God bless the man.

[@FortNdubisi]

My mood when I see a new cliffs video uploaded📈📈📈

[@rthaggins6290]

Cliff ...thank you for setting a wonderful example of patients and humility. Obviously,you were not trying to win a debate with the angry young man, as Paul said...I would that everyone under the sound of my voice was as I am. Except for these chains....I am confident that someone heard.

[@YENKOGT]

In this one cliff went hard!

[@ramoth777]

An open-air preacher myself, I know that there are times you have to. The rebellion, arrogance, stubbornness and willful ignorance of lost young people is frustrating to deal with.

[@Calvenoffical]

Cliff spirit & movement is so bright.... O can even hear is cry for ppl😢

[@bonnie43uk]

Cliffe is asking the guy (hypothetically) "why shouldn't I steal that mans money so that I can have more pleasure". Well there are several reasons, but in essence, we know that if someone stole our money, we would not like it, so it's mutually beneficial to all of us as a society that we don't do to someone what we wouldn't want done to us. No God is required for us to work this out. Even our primate cousins know this. They have an understanding and have boundaries, if they step out of line, they are punished by the older primates.

[@thepeej5]

No way, Bonnie!! Those primate cousins were ALSO given their morales from God. 😂😂😂

[@pedrogomespg.5882]

Thats the most stupid “””””argument”””””

[@bonnie43uk]

@@pedrogomespg.5882 I'm guessing he was joking pedro judging by the laughter emoji's. Lots of animals and insects instinctively know how to look after their young, and how to cooperate with their fellow animals. With humans a baby will slowly be taught what is good and what is bad, it is a slow process. A good parent will explain *why* something is wrong.

[@bonnie43uk]

@@thepeej5 It's good that you admit animals do have a basic sense of good/bad.

[@victorgarland5307]

Cliffs argument here is that if there is no moral absolute than if he steals someone's money than that holds just as much weight as if he doesn't. B using your argument to a more extreme degree. Hitler manage to convince people in Germany that it was okay to Gas Jews however using your argument "as a society we don't do something that we wouldn't want someone to do to us" These people should have never gone along with this

[@veritas_sweden]

Wonderful Knechtles 🥰

[@rodney5081]

Say what you want Jesus Christ will judge all . Say whatever it doesn't change the facts

[@gingercake0907]

@@Theo_Skeptomai Just read the Bible. Just read the life and teachings of Jesus Christ in the New Testament.

[@Real-pn7mj]

the thing that is funny how they said the same thing about the Old Testament and how it could have been changed but it was untill 1947 that they foudn the Dead Sea scrolls which date back to 3CBE and it has the whole book of Isaiah on it and it turns out it has word for word from our modern day Book of Isaiaih so i would not be surprised if The Gospel's are the same which have a 99.5% accuracy.

[@arri9764]

New Classic😍🙏

[@itskelohh8173]

He’s so cute I can’t handle it

[@pedrogomespg.5882]

@@itskelohh8173 he is

[@MatyášDědek]

This episode is awesomeee

[@SV-wb8kh]

As the old saying goes...the truth hurts.

[@cerv1calg1a]

For someone in college it's wild to me for them to know what an autobiography is but can't comprehend a biography. Just because someone else told the story of a different persons life doesn't mean that it can't be factual.

[@thedanger_]

Time traveler: **kicks a rock** Cliffe after that: 12:05

[@christokellerman39]

I enjoy listening to people that have genuine questions/issues and want clarity or Cliff's view. If they come in angry and screaming, I know they won't listen to or except logic.

[@josephtattum6365]

Still boggles my mind how these kids Cliff was debating in the 90s I assume are at least way more articulate and put together coherent thoughts unlike today’s brainwashed college students who haven’t been taught to think logically at all

[@gingercake0907]

I have taught students of today who are as articulate as anyone from the past. You can’t make broad prejudicial statements that are easily debunked. This would be a more honest statement “ those students were really engaged and listening to Cliff. “

[@josephtattum6365]

its called a generalization

[@saintpaulofyoutube4416]

Hey Joseph!!! Hope all has been well. Yes, you're right. It IS a generalization. And generalizations are valid.

[@aaronwalsh2046]

First guy asked good questions & received great answers

[@curiousgeorge555]

cliffe rocks

[@Cross_Hat]

Most who argue about Jesus and His divinity are angry, frustrated or just unsure. One thing is for certain. Jesus Christ is Lord and God and the most well known individual to have ever lived. Every nation knows his name ❤❤❤

[@requiemlite]

haha this is so funny how mad this guy is 9:50

[@jasonnoble7302]

Religion is silly especially Christianity When people say silly things it can be rather Annoying

[@jasonnoble7302]

@SpearHeadFisher I will think for you ❤️

[@JaimeOlvera-wz5lb]

Poor Kid I feel so Sorry for him,but at the same time I love him in Jesus name

[@JamesW225]

Exellent offerings cliff. So good with decent people who havent done any work and parrot what they have heard from others that didnt prepare an honest debate. I have been in that position. Embarrassment gave me the energy to prepare better and did not have my intended results. Through reason , i see how people very reasonably come to see the bible as a decent document at least historically.

[@firebeard7]

Cliff's self control is so admirable!

[@Apostlepaul777]

Cliff is a gift from God. Read everything and ask yourself , what does the evidence point to. That’s what we should be asking 🙏

[@Steven-zq6hj]

I hope these young folks listen. Cliffe's midlife crisis example is spot on. I'm that corp ladder guy that got it wrong. Learn from me, don't make my mistakes and waste 20 or 30 years. Be open minded enough to listen to someone that is older and has the wisdom from life's mistakes. I'm one that only asked a few high level questions and got their purpose fundamentally wrong and paid the price....and it's not necessarily physical or material, it may be mental or emotional where only you know. But there is a price. Put effort into finding your true purpose when you are young.....life will tend to go much better not only for you but others around you. 🙏

[@IntrovertRanger]

Notice how much anger is in him. In a situation where he is criticizing and ridiculing someone's belief, yet HE is the one whose upset. Something to think about

[@candrella100]

God bless you brother

[@GiovanniSpruzzatinia]

7:15 you have to ask yourself why is he getting himself so worked up,& loud if he doesn't believe a word of it,..why not walk by & not say a word? Because he KNOWS in his heart deep down that Jesus is absolutely real, he did suffer & die on the cross in the most unselfish display of love that will ever exist! He is the messiah, our savior,the beggining the end,the first the last the alpha & omega and becauae of this he IS OUR EVERYTHING with him we are capable of all things,without him we are just lost souls..tge saddest existence i can imagine, is not knowing Jesus Christ❤😢🙏🏻✝️

[@rogermagano4205]

Very nice content.

[@okhaeadeleye5313]

16:42 if you think following Christ is so easy, why not try it? 😊

[@LOSREDIMIDOSPODCAST]

I DONT CARE WHAT PEOPLE SAY , BUT CLIFFE IS LIKE THE APOSTLE PAUL OF THIS ERA ...

[@Anel7407]

Why does America think we do not have a religion in Africa. Africa is very religious. We have a lot of different religions. Yes, there are still sangomas and such here. But not that much where I am from. In my country there are a lot of Christians. We also have Muslim that I know of.

[@daveo2965]

I'm American and I don't believe there's no religion in Africa, actually the Ethiopian Bible predates the king James Bible by 800 yrs, Christianity was in Africa before it made to Europe....the Ethiopian Bible also has books that the Catholic Church had removed which makes the Ethiopian Bible more complete than the Wycliffe Bible, the Geneva Bible, and the King James Bible all......

[@juniorbarrientos1838]

So I was young and me and my sister fist faught and parants took us back home from a family party and when we got home our dad started spanking us for being bad and my mom was yelling don't so we all sat their yelling and the restroom door slams by itself so loud demons where around if demons exist the HEAVENS EXIST FOR THEY DROPED LIKE LIGHTENING FROM THE HEAVENS FOR DISOBEYING!! GOD IS REAL AND JESUS AT HIS RIGHT HAND DOES TO SO WHO EVER BELIEVES IN HIM YOU SHALL HAVE INTERNAL LIFE!!🙏❤️‍🔥 OPEN YOUR EYES.