Climber Attempts Rare Onsight Of The Iconic Digital Crack 8a | Climbing Daily Ep. 2030

[@CaldDesheft]

Does this crack in the route not protect well? Seems like a it would take gear. The top half needing bolts makes sense for sure but the first half, to that anchor, seems like it would take gear

[@billr5842]

Im going to go out and chop those bolts! I am so mad someone bolted this crack

[@TrackpadProductions]

Guess the FA just wanted a sport route. There's plenty of sport routes out there that could take gear. I guess they figured there's not enough placements to make a mixed line worth it.

[@QGTDVU]

Congratulations Hamish! Great onsight on a beautiful line.

[@iedison3839]

Calling it an onsight while having beta sprayed at you? Lol

[@jazsemkul]

lol

[@florianbonnecarrere1105]

Well that's the second part after the first belay that is the 8a apparently. The first part is easier.

[@arnaudsors8655]

appart from the first pitch (6c, we don't care 🤣) where at the point they discuss it's very runout (normally you would place a 0.3 cam there if not you can fall to the ground, but it's quite easy), the 8a pitch, which he links, clearly looks like an onsight given how extremely hard is beta looks compared to the standard ones 🤣if a flash, it would be a very bad one 🤣🤣 Anyways, I am very impressed by his climbing...

[@feelinghealingfrequences7179]

onsite? or flash? sounds like he has got beta and has previewed the route

[@hamishmcarthur2566]

Ya definitely meant flash. Only beta I got was what you saw in the vid

[@SC32000]

Onsight. Hardly given beta. If you climb a route that you know little to nothing about you can likely consider that an on-sight climb, debating that much further is a bit extreme.

[@FlatOutFE]

The belayer definitely shouldn't be spewing beta on an onsight attempt. The only info the climber should know is what they can perceive by looking from the base.

[@jlehm]

@@hamishmcarthur2566 good on you for replying. I think we can end the debate now. It doesn’t get any more definitive than the climber clearing up the confusion. Lol 👍👍

[@billr5842]

Seriously, this also looks like a 5.11 in my gym. Softer than a babys ass. Lets chop those bolts while we are at it too! Could probably campus this tbh

[@caspijpers4008]

Which arc’teryx shirt is he wearing? Can’t find it anywhere 😬

[@flealr92]

he asks for hand and foot hold types, and then calls it an onsight? quite on the edge isnt it?

[@alejand5]

What would be the difference with using binoculars?? As long as you don't know a beta, even a wrong one

[@mikew.6897]

I was thinking the same thing @flealr92 Especial since he got some instructions from his belayer while being on the climb. However, I feel like it's a good thing not being too strict about these details. I give him the benefit of the doubt and I am happy for him doing his ascent no matter how he wants to refer to it.

[@alpineclimb4081]

Yep, it is a flash

[@largeformatlandscape]

@@mikew.6897 did he not just ask about bolts? Being as he’s putting the drawers in I think that’s fair IMO

[@flealr92]

@@alejand5 well knowing there are small edges and smeary feet might make you think “oh thats what he was talking about” when you come across something like that during the climb

[@ClimbingEasy]

What is the accepted definition of On Sight vs Flash? Cool video and really cool send!

[@Qadow]

Flash - someone gave you beta, you saw someone climb the route, you studied it, maybe even rappel down to see it closer (no touching as far as I know) Onsight - You dont have beta, didnt see anyone climb it before, you can look from the ground try to read the route, but thats pretty much it. Basically you either know how to climb the route without trying it before (Flash) or you dont know and you adapt as you go (Onsight). Please correct me, if I am wrong or missed something.

[@ki3shy001]

My understanding is - A flash tends to be when you've seen someone else climb it/know the movements (sometimes spending a lot of time memorising this before the attempt). On sight is where you know very little/nothing about the route and make an ascent.

[@pietrospampatti2985]

@@ki3shy001 and I believe the most "flash" thing in my opinion is getting beta WHILE you climb. I had many times where they told me beta on the ground, but on the route you even forget.

[@olliebarker9979]

LOL onsight what a joke. How many people had to see this before it was uploaded 🤯

[@ridedownlow1219]

Definitely not an on-sight attempt if you’re getting beta sprayed the whole time

[@NatetheAceOfficial]

Unfortunately I can't watch this one. I don't want to ruin my onsight.

[@Soli_Deo_Gloria_.]

Title is erroneous

[@Helixe1]

Beautiful delicate climbing

[@daniel_brqlo]

Good lord... the climbing police are really mad in the comments, huh? How about if we start bringing the climber blindfolded and with noise cancelling headphones to the base of the route? Would you be happy then?

[@jereisluke]

Good lord, chill out. Hamish admits it was just a flash in a reply to a comment here. Climbing terms matter.

[@billr5842]

Not good enough. I wouldn't be happy. Im so butthurt that this was called an onsight. Climbing is literally my life and I judge people by hard they climb.